date:20231026

iPhone Photos

2023-10-26 Thread Tom Cramer

Hello,
I have been using the new Be My AI service and it has been great at
describing all of the photos in my photos app.
Is there a way to either label or rename these photos now that I know
what they are so that I can find them easier? I would think there
would have to be an easy way of labeling them but ca't see how.
Thanks.

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Widgets

2023-10-26 Thread William Outman

I am noticing what appear to be widgets on my new 15 Pro phone. I feel they are 
not of much use to me as a total. Are there some that exist by default? Am I 
accidentally creating them and if so how, and how do I find and get rid of 
them? 
Bill Outman 

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RE: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

2023-10-26 Thread Richard Turner






Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for IntelliYes, it is a feature within Be My 
Eyes.
gent Life in the Universe

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

It’s actually part of Be My Eyes I believe at least that’s how I’ve always been 
able to activate the AI feature where it describes photos.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 26, 2023, at 3:53 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> Just a bit more info, but when you pull up the App Store, you need to tap on 
> the Search tab in the lower right hand corner. The search field is at the top 
> of the screen, and it's labeled "Games, Apps, Stories and More" so it's easy 
> to miss that it's a edit field, since you have to listen to all of that 
> before you hear that it's an edit field.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rob 
> Armstrong
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 5:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023
> 
> Be My AI is just one of the features of the Be My Eyes app.  If you already 
> have the Be My Eyes app, you already have Be My AI.
> 
> If you need to install it, go to the app store, search for Be My Eyes, and 
> download it.  Yes, Be My Eyes is free.
> 
> When you first use Be My Eyes, I think you have to enter your email address 
> to create an account.
> 
> Rob
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 6:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023
> 
> I am going to try to download Be My AI. So, please tell me, I go to the App 
> Store. Do I have to do something about passwords. Does Search just come up 
> like in Google on my Computer. Is the app free?
> 
> Thanks for help.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 3:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023
> 
> Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023
> 
> 
> Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023
> 
> 
> The new AI Describer for people who are blind or have low vision is featured 
> in the AI Category
> 
> By Michele Paris, Marketing and Communications Manager
> 
> 
> 
> Michele Paris
> 
> Marketing and Communications Manager
> 
> 
> 
> Be My AI, the  first-of-its-kind digital visual assistant powered by GPT-4, 
> was mentioned amongst the Time Best Invention of 2023 
>   
> thanks to the collaboration between Be My Eyes and OpenAI. The annual list 
> features the most groundbreaking inventions, including new products and 
> ideas, that TIME editors have identified as "life changing".
> 
> "Be My Eyes is proud to be mentioned among the brilliant innovations included 
> in TIME's Best Inventions 2023 list with Be My AI. This new tool is providing 
> people who are blind or have low vision with a better way to address everyday 
> needs and acquire tools and visual descriptions never before possible," said 
> Michael Buckley, CEO of Be My Eyes. "We are grateful to TIME for this 
> incredible recognition, as we work to create a more accessible world for 
> people of all abilities."
> 
> This acknowledgment comes after a week from Be My Eyes' celebrations for 
> officially reaching 1,000,000 chats on Be My AI. As of today, over 5,500 
> blind people are accessing Be My AI every day, asking over 30,000+ questions 
> daily to the AI-powered tool.
> 
> "The new feature of having an AI assistant, specifically Be My AI, has truly 
> been a game-changer for me. It allows me to experience the world in a whole 
> new way by providing detailed descriptions of various things," says Malak, 
> who has been beta testing Be My AI since March. "Thanks to Be My AI, I now 
> have the ability to enjoy visual experiences and share moments in ways that 
> were once unimaginable. Be My Eyes' contribution has made a significant 
> impact on our lives, and we are incredibly thankful for their invaluable 
> support."
> 
> Be My AI is currently available for all Be My Eyes users on iOS. We have 
> already started closed beta testing Be My AI for Android devices and our goal 
> is to move it to broadly-available open beta status in the coming months. It 
> is already possible to sign up on the waitlist for Android beta testing in 
> the Be My Eyes app.
> 
> To keep updated about Be My AI, make sure to

RE: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

2023-10-26 Thread Carolyn Arnold

Thanks. I had no idea. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 6:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

Just a bit more info, but when you pull up the App Store, you need to tap on 
the Search tab in the lower right hand corner. The search field is at the top 
of the screen, and it's labeled "Games, Apps, Stories and More" so it's easy to 
miss that it's a edit field, since you have to listen to all of that before you 
hear that it's an edit field.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rob 
Armstrong
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 5:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

Be My AI is just one of the features of the Be My Eyes app.  If you already 
have the Be My Eyes app, you already have Be My AI.

If you need to install it, go to the app store, search for Be My Eyes, and 
download it.  Yes, Be My Eyes is free.

When you first use Be My Eyes, I think you have to enter your email address to 
create an account.

Rob

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 6:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

I am going to try to download Be My AI. So, please tell me, I go to the App 
Store. Do I have to do something about passwords. Does Search just come up like 
in Google on my Computer. Is the app free?

Thanks for help.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 3:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

The new AI Describer for people who are blind or have low vision is featured in 
the AI Category

By Michele Paris, Marketing and Communications Manager

Michele Paris

Marketing and Communications Manager

Be My AI, the  first-of-its-kind digital visual assistant powered by GPT-4, was 
mentioned amongst the Time Best Invention of 2023 

thanks to the collaboration between Be My Eyes and OpenAI. The annual list 
features the most groundbreaking inventions, including new products and ideas, 
that TIME editors have identified as "life changing".

"Be My Eyes is proud to be mentioned among the brilliant innovations included 
in TIME's Best Inventions 2023 list with Be My AI. This new tool is providing 
people who are blind or have low vision with a better way to address everyday 
needs and acquire tools and visual descriptions never before possible," said 
Michael Buckley, CEO of Be My Eyes. "We are grateful to TIME for this 
incredible recognition, as we work to create a more accessible world for people 
of all abilities."

This acknowledgment comes after a week from Be My Eyes' celebrations for 
officially reaching 1,000,000 chats on Be My AI. As of today, over 5,500 blind 
people are accessing Be My AI every day, asking over 30,000+ questions daily to 
the AI-powered tool.

"The new feature of having an AI assistant, specifically Be My AI, has truly 
been a game-changer for me. It allows me to experience the world in a whole new 
way by providing detailed descriptions of various things," says Malak, who has 
been beta testing Be My AI since March. "Thanks to Be My AI, I now have the 
ability to enjoy visual experiences and share moments in ways that were once 
unimaginable. Be My Eyes' contribution has made a significant impact on our 
lives, and we are incredibly thankful for their invaluable support."

Be My AI is currently available for all Be My Eyes users on iOS. We have 
already started closed beta testing Be My AI for Android devices and our goal 
is to move it to broadly-available open beta status in the coming months. It is 
already possible to sign up on the waitlist for Android beta testing in the Be 
My Eyes app.

To keep updated about Be My AI, make sure to follow Be My Eyes on LinkedIn 
 , X 

 , Facebook  , Instagram 
 , Mastodon 
  and TikTok 
 .

See the full list of 2023 TIME Best Inventions at 
time.com/best-inventions-2023. 

Thanks to David Goldfield for publishing the above on his Tech VI

RE: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

2023-10-26 Thread Carolyn Arnold

No, I don't have Be My Eyes. Thanks for telling me what to download. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rob Armstrong
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 6:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

Be My AI is just one of the features of the Be My Eyes app.  If you already 
have the Be My Eyes app, you already have Be My AI.

If you need to install it, go to the app store, search for Be My Eyes, and 
download it.  Yes, Be My Eyes is free.

When you first use Be My Eyes, I think you have to enter your email address to 
create an account.

Rob

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 6:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

I am going to try to download Be My AI. So, please tell me, I go to the App 
Store. Do I have to do something about passwords. Does Search just come up like 
in Google on my Computer. Is the app free? 

Thanks for help. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 3:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

The new AI Describer for people who are blind or have low vision is featured in 
the AI Category

By Michele Paris, Marketing and Communications Manager

Michele Paris

Marketing and Communications Manager

Be My AI, the  first-of-its-kind digital visual assistant powered by GPT-4, was 
mentioned amongst the Time Best Invention of 2023 

thanks to the collaboration between Be My Eyes and OpenAI. The annual list 
features the most groundbreaking inventions, including new products and ideas, 
that TIME editors have identified as “life changing”.

“Be My Eyes is proud to be mentioned among the brilliant innovations included 
in TIME’s Best Inventions 2023 list with Be My AI. This new tool is providing 
people who are blind or have low vision with a better way to address everyday 
needs and acquire tools and visual descriptions never before possible,” said 
Michael Buckley, CEO of Be My Eyes. “We are grateful to TIME for this 
incredible recognition, as we work to create a more accessible world for people 
of all abilities.”

This acknowledgment comes after a week from Be My Eyes’ celebrations for 
officially reaching 1,000,000 chats on Be My AI. As of today, over 5,500 blind 
people are accessing Be My AI every day, asking over 30,000+ questions daily to 
the AI-powered tool. 

“The new feature of having an AI assistant, specifically Be My AI, has truly 
been a game-changer for me. It allows me to experience the world in a whole new 
way by providing detailed descriptions of various things,” says Malak, who has 
been beta testing Be My AI since March. “Thanks to Be My AI, I now have the 
ability to enjoy visual experiences and share moments in ways that were once 
unimaginable. Be My Eyes' contribution has made a significant impact on our 
lives, and we are incredibly thankful for their invaluable support.”

Be My AI is currently available for all Be My Eyes users on iOS. We have 
already started closed beta testing Be My AI for Android devices and our goal 
is to move it to broadly-available open beta status in the coming months. It is 
already possible to sign up on the waitlist for Android beta testing in the Be 
My Eyes app.

To keep updated about Be My AI, make sure to follow Be My Eyes on LinkedIn 
 , X 

 , Facebook  , Instagram 
 , Mastodon 
  and TikTok 
 .

See the full list of 2023 TIME Best Inventions at 
time.com/best-inventions-2023. 

Thanks to David Goldfield for publishing the above on his Tech VI mailing list.

I copied the above from the original source at:

https://www.bemyeyes.com/blog/be-my-ai-named-amongst-time-best-inventions-of-2023

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

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Re: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

2023-10-26 Thread Mike Arrigo

I’m glad the Iphone I have still uses a physical sim card so I can easily 
switch between my Iphone SE and my Pixel 7, I do think Apple removed the 
physical sim tray too soon, currently there is no easy way to transfer your 
ESIM between an Iphone and Android without contacting the carrier. For most 
things both platforms are equal and the accessibility of Android has definitely 
come full circle. It’s good that we have the same choice as sighted people and 
that both platforms are accessible out of the box.

> On Oct 26, 2023, at 1:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I agree entirely about how ridiculously limited Siri can be, but if you are 
> using an iPhone you take the bad with the good and that is no didfferent if 
> you have an Android phone. It' sup to you which platform has more good and 
> less bad.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 8:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.
> 
> Frankly, Mark, it seems to me that they’ve all gotten stupider recently, 
> so-called AI not withstanding. I mean really. Alexa is worthless for sports. 
> You get all kinds of crap from that. Google Assistant well not so much. But 
> when I can’t get Siri to open an app on my phone without a big fat hassle, 
> that just takes the cake. Open Watch. Which watch app do you want Hulu or 
> YouTube or Watch? Well G. I said watch app. I didn’t say anything about Hulu 
> or YouTube. This crap is just ridiculous. Any assistant on a phone should be 
> smart enough to know when you’re asking it to open an app that you have on 
> your phone. Samsung phones have no problem with this. It’s just ridiculous. 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 25, 2023, at 8:18 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> You've got me smiling.  Thank you.
>> 
>> I have to admit, I agree with you.  
>> 
>> I continue to be amazed at the power of Alexa and other assistants in 
>> comparison to Siri.  It's interesting since Siri existed before any of the 
>> others.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 7:56 PM
>> To: via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.
>> 
>> I just upgraded to iOS 17.1. I’m grateful for the post about the language 
>> rotor, which was unnecessarily unchecked. But now, Siri is even dumber than 
>> before. When I ask her to open Pedometer, it asks which app Pedometer or 
>> StepUp. I clearly said Pedometer. So why does it need to ask that? Further, 
>> when I reply to it stupid question which app by saying Pedometer, it says 
>> uh-oh there’s a problem. The app is there, and if I find it on my phone I 
>> can open it. Really Apple, you are really behind the eight ball here.  My 
>> Samsung device opens stuff just fine with the much-maligned Bixby. Siri, 
>> worthless. Apple really has fallen way behind the curve and this has nothing 
>> to do with AI. Get your stuff together Apple.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

2023-10-26 Thread CHELA Robles

It’s actually part of Be My Eyes I believe at least that’s how I’ve always been 
able to activate the AI feature where it describes photos.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 26, 2023, at 3:53 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> Just a bit more info, but when you pull up the App Store, you need to tap on 
> the Search tab in the lower right hand corner. The search field is at the top 
> of the screen, and it's labeled "Games, Apps, Stories and More" so it's easy 
> to miss that it's a edit field, since you have to listen to all of that 
> before you hear that it's an edit field.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rob 
> Armstrong
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 5:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023
> 
> Be My AI is just one of the features of the Be My Eyes app.  If you already 
> have the Be My Eyes app, you already have Be My AI.
> 
> If you need to install it, go to the app store, search for Be My Eyes, and 
> download it.  Yes, Be My Eyes is free.
> 
> When you first use Be My Eyes, I think you have to enter your email address 
> to create an account.
> 
> Rob
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 6:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023
> 
> I am going to try to download Be My AI. So, please tell me, I go to the App 
> Store. Do I have to do something about passwords. Does Search just come up 
> like in Google on my Computer. Is the app free?
> 
> Thanks for help.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 3:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023
> 
> Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023
> 
> 
> Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023
> 
> 
> The new AI Describer for people who are blind or have low vision is featured 
> in the AI Category
> 
> By Michele Paris, Marketing and Communications Manager
> 
> 
> 
> Michele Paris
> 
> Marketing and Communications Manager
> 
> 
> 
> Be My AI, the  first-of-its-kind digital visual assistant powered by GPT-4, 
> was mentioned amongst the Time Best Invention of 2023 
>   
> thanks to the collaboration between Be My Eyes and OpenAI. The annual list 
> features the most groundbreaking inventions, including new products and 
> ideas, that TIME editors have identified as "life changing".
> 
> "Be My Eyes is proud to be mentioned among the brilliant innovations included 
> in TIME's Best Inventions 2023 list with Be My AI. This new tool is providing 
> people who are blind or have low vision with a better way to address everyday 
> needs and acquire tools and visual descriptions never before possible," said 
> Michael Buckley, CEO of Be My Eyes. "We are grateful to TIME for this 
> incredible recognition, as we work to create a more accessible world for 
> people of all abilities."
> 
> This acknowledgment comes after a week from Be My Eyes' celebrations for 
> officially reaching 1,000,000 chats on Be My AI. As of today, over 5,500 
> blind people are accessing Be My AI every day, asking over 30,000+ questions 
> daily to the AI-powered tool.
> 
> "The new feature of having an AI assistant, specifically Be My AI, has truly 
> been a game-changer for me. It allows me to experience the world in a whole 
> new way by providing detailed descriptions of various things," says Malak, 
> who has been beta testing Be My AI since March. "Thanks to Be My AI, I now 
> have the ability to enjoy visual experiences and share moments in ways that 
> were once unimaginable. Be My Eyes' contribution has made a significant 
> impact on our lives, and we are incredibly thankful for their invaluable 
> support."
> 
> Be My AI is currently available for all Be My Eyes users on iOS. We have 
> already started closed beta testing Be My AI for Android devices and our goal 
> is to move it to broadly-available open beta status in the coming months. It 
> is already possible to sign up on the waitlist for Android beta testing in 
> the Be My Eyes app.
> 
> To keep updated about Be My AI, make sure to follow Be My Eyes on LinkedIn 
>  , X 
> 
>  , Facebook  , Instagram 
>  , Mastodon 
>   and TikTok 
>  .
> 
> See the full list of 2023 TIME Best

Re: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

2023-10-26 Thread Mike Arrigo

Out of the three major assistants, siri, google assistant and Alexa, siri is by 
far the most behind, both on a phone and on smart speakers. I still have my 
Iphone SE third edition and might go back to it but for the last month I’ve 
been using my Google Pixel 7 and the Google Assistant blows siri away, the 
assistance voice typing feature on the Pixel is also amazing.

> On Oct 25, 2023, at 9:56 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I just upgraded to iOS 17.1. I’m grateful for the post about the language 
> rotor, which was unnecessarily unchecked. But now, Siri is even dumber than 
> before. When I ask her to open Pedometer, it asks which app Pedometer or 
> StepUp. I clearly said Pedometer. So why does it need to ask that? Further, 
> when I reply to it stupid question which app by saying Pedometer, it says 
> uh-oh there’s a problem. The app is there, and if I find it on my phone I can 
> open it. Really Apple, you are really behind the eight ball here.  My Samsung 
> device opens stuff just fine with the much-maligned Bixby. Siri, worthless. 
> Apple really has fallen way behind the curve and this has nothing to do with 
> AI. Get your stuff together Apple. 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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RE: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

2023-10-26 Thread Christopher Chaltain

Just a bit more info, but when you pull up the App Store, you need to tap on 
the Search tab in the lower right hand corner. The search field is at the top 
of the screen, and it's labeled "Games, Apps, Stories and More" so it's easy to 
miss that it's a edit field, since you have to listen to all of that before you 
hear that it's an edit field.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rob 
Armstrong
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 5:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

Be My AI is just one of the features of the Be My Eyes app.  If you already 
have the Be My Eyes app, you already have Be My AI.

If you need to install it, go to the app store, search for Be My Eyes, and 
download it.  Yes, Be My Eyes is free.

When you first use Be My Eyes, I think you have to enter your email address to 
create an account.

Rob

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 6:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

I am going to try to download Be My AI. So, please tell me, I go to the App 
Store. Do I have to do something about passwords. Does Search just come up like 
in Google on my Computer. Is the app free?

Thanks for help.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 3:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023


Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023


The new AI Describer for people who are blind or have low vision is featured in 
the AI Category

By Michele Paris, Marketing and Communications Manager



Michele Paris

Marketing and Communications Manager



Be My AI, the  first-of-its-kind digital visual assistant powered by GPT-4, was 
mentioned amongst the Time Best Invention of 2023 
  
thanks to the collaboration between Be My Eyes and OpenAI. The annual list 
features the most groundbreaking inventions, including new products and ideas, 
that TIME editors have identified as "life changing".

"Be My Eyes is proud to be mentioned among the brilliant innovations included 
in TIME's Best Inventions 2023 list with Be My AI. This new tool is providing 
people who are blind or have low vision with a better way to address everyday 
needs and acquire tools and visual descriptions never before possible," said 
Michael Buckley, CEO of Be My Eyes. "We are grateful to TIME for this 
incredible recognition, as we work to create a more accessible world for people 
of all abilities."

This acknowledgment comes after a week from Be My Eyes' celebrations for 
officially reaching 1,000,000 chats on Be My AI. As of today, over 5,500 blind 
people are accessing Be My AI every day, asking over 30,000+ questions daily to 
the AI-powered tool.

"The new feature of having an AI assistant, specifically Be My AI, has truly 
been a game-changer for me. It allows me to experience the world in a whole new 
way by providing detailed descriptions of various things," says Malak, who has 
been beta testing Be My AI since March. "Thanks to Be My AI, I now have the 
ability to enjoy visual experiences and share moments in ways that were once 
unimaginable. Be My Eyes' contribution has made a significant impact on our 
lives, and we are incredibly thankful for their invaluable support."

Be My AI is currently available for all Be My Eyes users on iOS. We have 
already started closed beta testing Be My AI for Android devices and our goal 
is to move it to broadly-available open beta status in the coming months. It is 
already possible to sign up on the waitlist for Android beta testing in the Be 
My Eyes app.

To keep updated about Be My AI, make sure to follow Be My Eyes on LinkedIn 
 , X 

 , Facebook  , Instagram 
 , Mastodon 
  and TikTok 
 .

See the full list of 2023 TIME Best Inventions at 
time.com/best-inventions-2023. 




Thanks to David Goldfield for publishing the above on his Tech VI mailing list.

I copied the above from the original source at:

https://www.bemyeyes.com/blog/be-my-ai-named-amongst-time-best-inventions-of-2023





Richard, USA.

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent

RE: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

2023-10-26 Thread Rob Armstrong

Be My AI is just one of the features of the Be My Eyes app.  If you already 
have the Be My Eyes app, you already have Be My AI.

If you need to install it, go to the app store, search for Be My Eyes, and 
download it.  Yes, Be My Eyes is free.

When you first use Be My Eyes, I think you have to enter your email address to 
create an account.

Rob

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 6:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

I am going to try to download Be My AI. So, please tell me, I go to the App 
Store. Do I have to do something about passwords. Does Search just come up like 
in Google on my Computer. Is the app free? 

Thanks for help. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 3:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023


Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023


The new AI Describer for people who are blind or have low vision is featured in 
the AI Category

By Michele Paris, Marketing and Communications Manager



Michele Paris

Marketing and Communications Manager



Be My AI, the  first-of-its-kind digital visual assistant powered by GPT-4, was 
mentioned amongst the Time Best Invention of 2023 
  
thanks to the collaboration between Be My Eyes and OpenAI. The annual list 
features the most groundbreaking inventions, including new products and ideas, 
that TIME editors have identified as “life changing”.

“Be My Eyes is proud to be mentioned among the brilliant innovations included 
in TIME’s Best Inventions 2023 list with Be My AI. This new tool is providing 
people who are blind or have low vision with a better way to address everyday 
needs and acquire tools and visual descriptions never before possible,” said 
Michael Buckley, CEO of Be My Eyes. “We are grateful to TIME for this 
incredible recognition, as we work to create a more accessible world for people 
of all abilities.”

This acknowledgment comes after a week from Be My Eyes’ celebrations for 
officially reaching 1,000,000 chats on Be My AI. As of today, over 5,500 blind 
people are accessing Be My AI every day, asking over 30,000+ questions daily to 
the AI-powered tool. 

“The new feature of having an AI assistant, specifically Be My AI, has truly 
been a game-changer for me. It allows me to experience the world in a whole new 
way by providing detailed descriptions of various things,” says Malak, who has 
been beta testing Be My AI since March. “Thanks to Be My AI, I now have the 
ability to enjoy visual experiences and share moments in ways that were once 
unimaginable. Be My Eyes' contribution has made a significant impact on our 
lives, and we are incredibly thankful for their invaluable support.”

Be My AI is currently available for all Be My Eyes users on iOS. We have 
already started closed beta testing Be My AI for Android devices and our goal 
is to move it to broadly-available open beta status in the coming months. It is 
already possible to sign up on the waitlist for Android beta testing in the Be 
My Eyes app.

To keep updated about Be My AI, make sure to follow Be My Eyes on LinkedIn 
 , X 

 , Facebook  , Instagram 
 , Mastodon 
  and TikTok 
 .

See the full list of 2023 TIME Best Inventions at 
time.com/best-inventions-2023. 
 

 

Thanks to David Goldfield for publishing the above on his Tech VI mailing list.

I copied the above from the original source at:

https://www.bemyeyes.com/blog/be-my-ai-named-amongst-time-best-inventions-of-2023

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

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RE: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

2023-10-26 Thread Carolyn Arnold

I am going to try to download Be My AI. So, please tell me, I go to the App 
Store. Do I have to do something about passwords. Does Search just come up like 
in Google on my Computer. Is the app free? 

Thanks for help. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 3:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023


Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023


The new AI Describer for people who are blind or have low vision is featured in 
the AI Category

By Michele Paris, Marketing and Communications Manager



Michele Paris

Marketing and Communications Manager



Be My AI, the  first-of-its-kind digital visual assistant powered by GPT-4, was 
mentioned amongst the Time Best Invention of 2023 
  
thanks to the collaboration between Be My Eyes and OpenAI. The annual list 
features the most groundbreaking inventions, including new products and ideas, 
that TIME editors have identified as “life changing”.

“Be My Eyes is proud to be mentioned among the brilliant innovations included 
in TIME’s Best Inventions 2023 list with Be My AI. This new tool is providing 
people who are blind or have low vision with a better way to address everyday 
needs and acquire tools and visual descriptions never before possible,” said 
Michael Buckley, CEO of Be My Eyes. “We are grateful to TIME for this 
incredible recognition, as we work to create a more accessible world for people 
of all abilities.”

This acknowledgment comes after a week from Be My Eyes’ celebrations for 
officially reaching 1,000,000 chats on Be My AI. As of today, over 5,500 blind 
people are accessing Be My AI every day, asking over 30,000+ questions daily to 
the AI-powered tool. 

“The new feature of having an AI assistant, specifically Be My AI, has truly 
been a game-changer for me. It allows me to experience the world in a whole new 
way by providing detailed descriptions of various things,” says Malak, who has 
been beta testing Be My AI since March. “Thanks to Be My AI, I now have the 
ability to enjoy visual experiences and share moments in ways that were once 
unimaginable. Be My Eyes' contribution has made a significant impact on our 
lives, and we are incredibly thankful for their invaluable support.”

Be My AI is currently available for all Be My Eyes users on iOS. We have 
already started closed beta testing Be My AI for Android devices and our goal 
is to move it to broadly-available open beta status in the coming months. It is 
already possible to sign up on the waitlist for Android beta testing in the Be 
My Eyes app.

To keep updated about Be My AI, make sure to follow Be My Eyes on LinkedIn 
 , X 

 , Facebook  , Instagram 
 , Mastodon 
  and TikTok 
 .

See the full list of 2023 TIME Best Inventions at 
time.com/best-inventions-2023. 
 

 

Thanks to David Goldfield for publishing the above on his Tech VI mailing list.

I copied the above from the original source at:

https://www.bemyeyes.com/blog/be-my-ai-named-amongst-time-best-inventions-of-2023

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

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RE: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

2023-10-26 Thread Carolyn Arnold

I am cracking up, Sieghard, about your devices and far away ones responding. 

Today, I Facetime called my daughter-in-law to show her my haircut. When I got 
off, I told my son, as we drove down the highway that Jim's daughter said I 
could call her Facetime, all I had to do was say, Siri, call Beth. The next 
thing I knew we could hear my phone ringing in my purse. My son, said it did. I 
hung it up, but Jim's daughter called. I told her what happened, and we got a 
laugh out of it. At least, we know that works, only I didn't say Call Beth 
Facetime, but I did say call Beth, and it did. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 1:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

And for us with both Alexa and google smart speakers in the house, it's amazing 
how I am sometimes in the kitchen where we have one of the Google speakers with 
a display and I am 5 feet away from it and speak in the direction of the 
speaker and I ask something and next thing the Nest Mini in the living room 
replies even though it's 15 feet away and completely around a corner and wall, 
same happens sometimes with Alexa, we have an Echo Dot 4th gen in the bedroom 
and may say something and instead I hear the Sonos One speakers in the bathroom 
reply and that has happened with the bathroom door closed.
I recently read on a Sonos Facebook gtroup that adding Alexa to Sonos makes it 
less reliable, not sure if that really is so, but maybe it is.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Corey 
Cook
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

I have noticed in recent weeks that Alexa is really not listening as well 
sometimes.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

Siri is not the only dumb one out there.

We have timers set in Alexa for different things.

We have a lot of Sonos speakers in the house, the one in our bedroom does not 
have the microphone and so does not support Alexa.
IN our Kitchen we have two that do have the microphone and have one timer set 
up called "Carol's Timer" which is for steeping her tea.

This morning, standing in the kitchen next to the speaker, I said, "Start 
Carol's timer," and Alexa responded, "Bedroom doesn't support that."

This sort of thing happens at a similar frequency with Siri being dumb, which 
is what we get for depending on "Artificial Intelligence."  And I do mean 
Artificial!

Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 6:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

I have had better luck when I use the word launch instead of open. I don't know 
why but sometimes it works

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

CAUTION: This is an External email. Please send suspicious emails to 
ab...@michigan.gov

I have folders too. I’ve been using iPhones for years. But after a while, you 
get more apps. And besides, even if you know precisely what folder an app is 
in, you still have to open the folder find the app and open it. If Siri worked 
like it should, it would be much more efficient to just use it to open apps. 
But even this morning, when I say Open such and such app and give the precise 
name, it comes back and asks me which app do you want this one that one or 
another one, all in the same general app category. This after I’ve stated 
something specifically. Anyway, this just started with the so-called upgrade to 
17.1. Feels like a regression to me.  And there wasn’t that much to regress 
from. I still prefer iOS to android. But really Apple. Get it together on Siri.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2023, at 9:52 PM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
>
> Hi Group,
>
> I guess it depends on what you are using these automated helpers for. I find 
> Siri better than Alexa or Curtana for general knowledge.  As far as opening 
> apps, I do that myself. Early on when I first began using the iPhone, I 
> learned to edit my home screen, group various apps by category into folders 
> and so on. Even when using the contacts listing in e-mails,  text or phone 
> calls, I add all regularly

Re: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

2023-10-26 Thread CHELA Robles

I hate it when siri doesn't finish confirmation of messages I send to people, 
it beeps prior and cuts itself off midsentence so I feel I have to manually 
send it either using dictation or braille screen input. It’s been doing that 
ever since I upgraded to iOS 17 and I have iOS 17.1 now. Any Anybody having 
this issue where Siri cuts itself off? Are there any solutions around it? Has 
Has this bug been reported to Apple?
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 26, 2023, at 11:36 AM, leobado1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hmm, Siri the dumbest and the most expensive, where did I see that? Oh yes, 
> Las Vegas! Viva Las Vegas!
> 
> Best,
> Leo Bado
> 
> "Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive."
> Elbert Hubbard
> 
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RE: Be My Eyes AI feature

2023-10-26 Thread Richard Turner

Thank you Ben.
That is good to know.

Here is one statement anyone concerned about what they are storing should know:
You can ask us to modify or delete your data by contacting us at 
le...@bemyeyes.com

I'm fine with what I share since it is nothing overly personal or anything 
confidential.

Thanks,



Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ben 
Mustill-Rose
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Be My Eyes AI feature

Hi,

Your images are actually stored by Be My Eyes, it's just that you can't access 
them.
https://www.bemyeyes.com/blog/be-my-eyes-is-updating-our-terms-of-service-and-privacy-policy

Cheers,
Ben.

On 10/26/23, kheve...@fuse.net  wrote:
> That helps a lot.  Thanks.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 12:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Be My Eyes AI feature
>
> The pictures are not saved anywhere.  They are used to do the analysis 
> and then dumped.
> To save them, you would actually have to simply use the camera and 
> take the photo, then under the share option for that photo, select 
> Describe with Be My AI.
>
>
> HTH,
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> kheve...@fuse.net
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 8:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Be My Eyes AI feature
>
> Richard, I have been impressed with the AI feature of be my eyes too.  
> I took a selfy and was quiter surprised to discover the color of the 
> top I was wearing.  My friend confirmed its accuracy.  Also used it to 
> read computer screen when Jaws was not working.  I do have a question.  
> Where do your pictures go?  Are they just deleted, or are they hanging 
> out somewhere in the cloud?  I have not found an option for saving or 
> deleting them.  Thanks.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 10:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: FW: Be My Eyes AI feature
>
> I was given a loaf of gluten free bread yesterday.  This morning, in a 
> very dark kitchen, before sunrise, I wanted to double check the exact 
> type of bread for future purchase.  After trying several Bar Code apps 
> and getting an invalid Bar Code, I didn't even think about turning the 
> light on, and just used Be My Eyes AI to take a picture of the label.
> Here is the result:
> The picture shows a loaf of bread in a plastic packaging. The 
> packaging has a label that reads "New Cascadia Tradition". It is 
> gluten-free Honey Gold sandwich bread. The label also mentions that it 
> is whole grain, non-GMO, potato-free, dairy-free, nut-free, soy-free, 
> and always gluten-free. The net weight is 19.5 oz (553g). The packaging also 
> has a "Certified Gluten-Free"
> logo and a "Certified Paleo" logo. There is also text that says "Visit 
> our cafe!". The bread is placed on a countertop with a drawer handle 
> visible at the bottom of the picture. The picture is taken in dim light.
>
> I am extremely impressed with this feature of Be My Eyes.
>
> Richard
>
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Re: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

2023-10-26 Thread Scott Davert

Well deserved, but I still wish BME would work on developing an
interface so that one can text a volunteer instead of calling. There
are some circumstances where a blind hearing person may find this of
value, but they're not providing as much access to as many people as
they could be. I understand be My AI works with braille, but what I
also understand is that those who can hear are able to make audio
calls to volunteers. Why can't DeafBlind people be given the same
access?
All of that said, yes this tech is very revolutionary, I just wish
people would start thinking in more broad terms sometimes. I've passed
along the feedback a few times on the lack of texting, hopefully if
enough people ask for it they will take it into consideration!

Scott

On 10/26/23, Corey Cook  wrote:
> This is excellent news.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 3:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023
>
>
>
> Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023
>
>
> Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023
>
>
> The new AI Describer for people who are blind or have low vision is featured
> in the AI Category
>
> By Michele Paris, Marketing and Communications Manager
>
>
>
> Michele Paris
>
> Marketing and Communications Manager
>
>
>
> Be My AI, the  first-of-its-kind digital visual assistant powered by GPT-4,
> was mentioned amongst the
> 
> Time Best Invention of 2023 thanks to the collaboration between Be My Eyes
> and OpenAI. The annual list features the most groundbreaking inventions,
> including new products and ideas, that TIME editors have identified as “life
> changing”.
>
> “Be My Eyes is proud to be mentioned among the brilliant innovations
> included in TIME’s Best Inventions 2023 list with Be My AI. This new tool is
> providing people who are blind or have low vision with a better way to
> address everyday needs and acquire tools and visual descriptions never
> before possible,” said Michael Buckley, CEO of Be My Eyes. “We are grateful
> to TIME for this incredible recognition, as we work to create a more
> accessible world for people of all abilities.”
>
> This acknowledgment comes after a week from Be My Eyes’ celebrations for
> officially reaching 1,000,000 chats on Be My AI. As of today, over 5,500
> blind people are accessing Be My AI every day, asking over 30,000+ questions
> daily to the AI-powered tool.
>
> “The new feature of having an AI assistant, specifically Be My AI, has truly
> been a game-changer for me. It allows me to experience the world in a whole
> new way by providing detailed descriptions of various things,” says Malak,
> who has been beta testing Be My AI since March. “Thanks to Be My AI, I now
> have the ability to enjoy visual experiences and share moments in ways that
> were once unimaginable. Be My Eyes' contribution has made a significant
> impact on our lives, and we are incredibly thankful for their invaluable
> support.”
>
> Be My AI is currently available for all Be My Eyes users on iOS. We have
> already started closed beta testing Be My AI for Android devices and our
> goal is to move it to broadly-available open beta status in the coming
> months. It is already possible to sign up on the waitlist for Android beta
> testing in the Be My Eyes app.
>
> To keep updated about Be My AI, make sure to follow Be My Eyes on
> 
> LinkedIn,
> 
> X,   Facebook,
>  Instagram,
>  Mastodon and
>  TikTok.
>
> See the full list of 2023 TIME Best Inventions at
> 
> time.com/best-inventions-2023.
>
>
>
> Thanks to David Goldfield for publishing the above on his Tech VI mailing
> list.
>
> I copied the above from the original source at:
>
> https://www.bemyeyes.com/blog/be-my-ai-named-amongst-time-best-inventions-of-2023
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
>
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Re: Be My Eyes AI feature

2023-10-26 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose

Hi,

Your images are actually stored by Be My Eyes, it's just that you
can't access them.
https://www.bemyeyes.com/blog/be-my-eyes-is-updating-our-terms-of-service-and-privacy-policy

Cheers,
Ben.

On 10/26/23, kheve...@fuse.net  wrote:
> That helps a lot.  Thanks.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 12:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Be My Eyes AI feature
>
> The pictures are not saved anywhere.  They are used to do the analysis and
> then dumped.
> To save them, you would actually have to simply use the camera and take the
> photo, then under the share option for that photo, select Describe with Be
> My AI.
>
>
> HTH,
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> kheve...@fuse.net
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 8:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Be My Eyes AI feature
>
> Richard, I have been impressed with the AI feature of be my eyes too.  I
> took a selfy and was quiter surprised to discover the color of the top I was
> wearing.  My friend confirmed its accuracy.  Also used it to read computer
> screen when Jaws was not working.  I do have a question.  Where do your
> pictures go?  Are they just deleted, or are they hanging out somewhere in
> the cloud?  I have not found an option for saving or deleting them.  Thanks.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 10:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: FW: Be My Eyes AI feature
>
> I was given a loaf of gluten free bread yesterday.  This morning, in a very
> dark kitchen, before sunrise, I wanted to double check the exact type of
> bread for future purchase.  After trying several Bar Code apps and getting
> an invalid Bar Code, I didn't even think about turning the light on, and
> just used Be My Eyes AI to take a picture of the label.
> Here is the result:
> The picture shows a loaf of bread in a plastic packaging. The packaging has
> a label that reads "New Cascadia Tradition". It is gluten-free Honey Gold
> sandwich bread. The label also mentions that it is whole grain, non-GMO,
> potato-free, dairy-free, nut-free, soy-free, and always gluten-free. The net
> weight is 19.5 oz (553g). The packaging also has a "Certified Gluten-Free"
> logo and a "Certified Paleo" logo. There is also text that says "Visit our
> cafe!". The bread is placed on a countertop with a drawer handle visible at
> the bottom of the picture. The picture is taken in dim light.
>
> I am extremely impressed with this feature of Be My Eyes.
>
> Richard
>
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Re: mail issue query

2023-10-26 Thread Christopher Chaltain

Yes, just go ahead and set up the IOS Mail app.
—
Christopher (AKA CJ) on the move
Chaltain at Gmail

On Oct 26, 2023, at 9:48 AM, anthonyborg...@gmail.com wrote:


I setup the gmail because that’s what I use to send and receiv emails, but in 
the mail app there is much more features.
Can I now setup my account in the IOS mail as well to make the emails go there?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 26 October 2023 7:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mail issue query

Why do you set up a Gmail app if you don’t want to use it but instead want the 
Mail app to check  your email?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
anthonyborg...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 9:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: mail issue query

Hi

I purchased the latest iphone se, and my problem is that when I setup the gmail 
I am notice that all the emails are going in to it and not in to the mail app.
So,can anyone explain to me what I should do to make the emails go in to the 
mail app instead please?
Thanks in advance

Anthony

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RE: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

2023-10-26 Thread leobado1982

Hmm, Siri the dumbest and the most expensive, where did I see that? Oh yes, Las 
Vegas! Viva Las Vegas!

Best,
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RE: mail issue query

2023-10-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

If you want to use the Mail app I wouldn’t bother about the Gmail app although 
Christopher is correct, as long as you are not somehow using POP3 to get your 
Gmail which I am not even sure is possible with the iPhone, you can set up your 
account in both apps. When I tried the Outlook app for a while I had my 
Microsoft email accounts set up in both the Mail app and the Outlook app and 
since Mail is not downloaded in the traditional sense but “synced” to your 
phone, it doesn’t really matter. Just make sure you select the account type as 
“Gmail” when you set  up your account in the iOS Mail app.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mail issue query

I setup the gmail because that’s what I use to send and receiv emails, but in 
the mail app there is much more features.
Can I now setup my account in the IOS mail as well to make the emails go there?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 26 October 2023 7:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mail issue query

Why do you set up a Gmail app if you don’t want to use it but instead want the 
Mail app to check  your email?

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
anthonyborg...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 9:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: mail issue query

Hi

I purchased the latest iphone se, and my problem is that when I setup the gmail 
I am notice that all the emails are going in to it and not in to the mail app.
So,can anyone explain to me what I should do to make the emails go in to the 
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Thanks in advance

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RE: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

2023-10-26 Thread Laury, Shawnese (LEO)

This happens to us a lot where you think the closest device will respond but it 
is the one furtherst away. Just glad that one of them is responding LOL. I just 
understand that with technology as a lot of other things, that nothing is 
perfect and at times there are going to be glitches.

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Weitzel
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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And for us with both Alexa and google smart speakers in the house, it's amazing 
how I am sometimes in the kitchen where we have one of the Google speakers with 
a display and I am 5 feet away from it and speak in the direction of the 
speaker and I ask something and next thing the Nest Mini in the living room 
replies even though it's 15 feet away and completely around a corner and wall, 
same happens sometimes with Alexa, we have an Echo Dot 4th gen in the bedroom 
and may say something and instead I hear the Sonos One speakers in the bathroom 
reply and that has happened with the bathroom door closed.
I recently read on a Sonos Facebook gtroup that adding Alexa to Sonos makes it 
less reliable, not sure if that really is so, but maybe it is.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Corey 
Cook
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

I have noticed in recent weeks that Alexa is really not listening as well 
sometimes.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

Siri is not the only dumb one out there.

We have timers set in Alexa for different things.

We have a lot of Sonos speakers in the house, the one in our bedroom does not 
have the microphone and so does not support Alexa.
IN our Kitchen we have two that do have the microphone and have one timer set 
up called "Carol's Timer" which is for steeping her tea.

This morning, standing in the kitchen next to the speaker, I said, "Start 
Carol's timer," and Alexa responded, "Bedroom doesn't support that."

This sort of thing happens at a similar frequency with Siri being dumb, which 
is what we get for depending on "Artificial Intelligence."  And I do mean 
Artificial!

Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 6:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

I have had better luck when I use the word launch instead of open. I don't know 
why but sometimes it works

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Otten
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I have folders too. I’ve been using iPhones for years. But after a while, you 
get more apps. And besides, even if you know precisely what folder an app is 
in, you still have to open the folder find the app and open it. If Siri worked 
like it should, it would be much more efficient to just use it to open apps. 
But even this morning, when I say Open such and such app and give the precise 
name, it comes back and asks me which app do you want this one that one or 
another one, all in the same general app category. This after I’ve stated 
something specifically. Anyway, this just started with the so-called upgrade to 
17.1. Feels like a regression to me.  And there wasn’t that much to regress 
from. I still prefer iOS to android. But really Apple. Get it together on Siri.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2023, at 9:52 PM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
>
> Hi Group,
>
> I guess it depends on what you are using these automated helpers for. I find 
> Siri better than Alexa or Curtana for general knowledge.  As far as opening 
> apps, I do that myself. Early on when I first began using the iPhone, I 
> learned to edit my home screen, group various apps by category into folders 
> and so on. Even when using the contacts listing in e-mails,  text or phone 
> calls, I add all regularly used addresses to the contacts list and the only 
> time I ever use Siri to make calls/texts is if the addressee is not in my 
> contacts list.  Siri never misses when I ask her call (998) 555-.
> I almost never ask Siri to be involved at all in

RE: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

2023-10-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

And for us with both Alexa and google smart speakers in the house, it's amazing 
how I am sometimes in the kitchen where we have one of the Google speakers with 
a display and I am 5 feet away from it and speak in the direction of the 
speaker and I ask something and next thing the Nest Mini in the living room 
replies even though it's 15 feet away and completely around a corner and wall, 
same happens sometimes with Alexa, we have an Echo Dot 4th gen in the bedroom 
and may say something and instead I hear the Sonos One speakers in the bathroom 
reply and that has happened with the bathroom door closed.
I recently read on a Sonos Facebook gtroup that adding Alexa to Sonos makes it 
less reliable, not sure if that really is so, but maybe it is.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Corey 
Cook
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

I have noticed in recent weeks that Alexa is really not listening as well 
sometimes.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

Siri is not the only dumb one out there.

We have timers set in Alexa for different things.

We have a lot of Sonos speakers in the house, the one in our bedroom does not 
have the microphone and so does not support Alexa.
IN our Kitchen we have two that do have the microphone and have one timer set 
up called "Carol's Timer" which is for steeping her tea.

This morning, standing in the kitchen next to the speaker, I said, "Start 
Carol's timer," and Alexa responded, "Bedroom doesn't support that."

This sort of thing happens at a similar frequency with Siri being dumb, which 
is what we get for depending on "Artificial Intelligence."  And I do mean 
Artificial!

Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 6:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

I have had better luck when I use the word launch instead of open. I don't know 
why but sometimes it works

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I have folders too. I’ve been using iPhones for years. But after a while, you 
get more apps. And besides, even if you know precisely what folder an app is 
in, you still have to open the folder find the app and open it. If Siri worked 
like it should, it would be much more efficient to just use it to open apps. 
But even this morning, when I say Open such and such app and give the precise 
name, it comes back and asks me which app do you want this one that one or 
another one, all in the same general app category. This after I’ve stated 
something specifically. Anyway, this just started with the so-called upgrade to 
17.1. Feels like a regression to me.  And there wasn’t that much to regress 
from. I still prefer iOS to android. But really Apple. Get it together on Siri.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2023, at 9:52 PM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
>
> Hi Group,
>
> I guess it depends on what you are using these automated helpers for. I find 
> Siri better than Alexa or Curtana for general knowledge.  As far as opening 
> apps, I do that myself. Early on when I first began using the iPhone, I 
> learned to edit my home screen, group various apps by category into folders 
> and so on. Even when using the contacts listing in e-mails,  text or phone 
> calls, I add all regularly used addresses to the contacts list and the only 
> time I ever use Siri to make calls/texts is if the addressee is not in my 
> contacts list.  Siri never misses when I ask her call (998) 555-.
> I almost never ask Siri to be involved at all in apps.
>
>
>> On 10/25/2023 11:18 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Mary,
>>
>> You've got me smiling.  Thank you.
>>
>> I have to admit, I agree with you.
>>
>> I continue to be amazed at the power of Alexa and other assistants in 
>> comparison to Siri.  It's interesting since Siri existed before any of the 
>> others.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 7:56 PM
>> To: via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.
>>
>> I just upgraded to iOS 17.1. I’m grateful for the post

RE: Be My Eyes AI feature

2023-10-26 Thread khevener

That helps a lot.  Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 12:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My Eyes AI feature

The pictures are not saved anywhere.  They are used to do the analysis and then 
dumped.
To save them, you would actually have to simply use the camera and take the 
photo, then under the share option for that photo, select Describe with Be My 
AI.

HTH,

Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
kheve...@fuse.net
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My Eyes AI feature

Richard, I have been impressed with the AI feature of be my eyes too.  I took a 
selfy and was quiter surprised to discover the color of the top I was wearing.  
My friend confirmed its accuracy.  Also used it to read computer screen when 
Jaws was not working.  I do have a question.  Where do your pictures go?  Are 
they just deleted, or are they hanging out somewhere in the cloud?  I have not 
found an option for saving or deleting them.  Thanks.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 10:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: Be My Eyes AI feature

I was given a loaf of gluten free bread yesterday.  This morning, in a very 
dark kitchen, before sunrise, I wanted to double check the exact type of bread 
for future purchase.  After trying several Bar Code apps and getting an invalid 
Bar Code, I didn't even think about turning the light on, and just used Be My 
Eyes AI to take a picture of the label.
Here is the result:
The picture shows a loaf of bread in a plastic packaging. The packaging has a 
label that reads "New Cascadia Tradition". It is gluten-free Honey Gold 
sandwich bread. The label also mentions that it is whole grain, non-GMO, 
potato-free, dairy-free, nut-free, soy-free, and always gluten-free. The net 
weight is 19.5 oz (553g). The packaging also has a "Certified Gluten-Free" logo 
and a "Certified Paleo" logo. There is also text that says "Visit our cafe!". 
The bread is placed on a countertop with a drawer handle visible at the bottom 
of the picture. The picture is taken in dim light.

I am extremely impressed with this feature of Be My Eyes.

Richard

website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

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RE: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

2023-10-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Hi Mary,

Since I doubt anybody at Apple who has anything at all to say is monitoring 
this list, complaining here does exactly 0 good whereas providing feedback in 
the long run may actually have an effect. Having said this, I use Siri to open 
apps as well and for some reason with my iPhone 13 Pro which also has iOS 17.1 
opening apps is not an issue. I just ttried 5 different apps one after another 
and each app opened quickly and without fail.
The ones I tried were the following along with what I said:

Watch app - open watch
Mail - open Mail
Sonos - open Sonos
Audible - open Audible
Facebook - open Facebook
RBC Royal Bank - open RBC
Smart HQ - open Smart HQ (for my GE induction range)
AS Home - open American Standard, this one can seem to not work because 
Voiceover calls the app "AS Home" but if you say "open AS Home" it either opens 
the Apple Home app 
or it wil say that it doesn't seem you have an app called "AS Home". But that 
is not Siri's fault if the Voiceover label reads one thing, but internally it's 
called something else.

By the way, are you using just your iPhone or do you have a headset connected 
when you make the request? Also, do you make sure to give it that extra second 
or so Siri seems to need these days to properly listen? I find the odd time 
something didn't work is when I spoke too quickly and Siri only caught part of 
what I said. For example, one situation where this easily happens is when I 
ask, for example, "Call John Smith". At times Siri will say something like 
"What would you like to know about John Smith" and that is entirely because all 
Siri heard was "John Smith" and the "Call" was spoken before Siri listened. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 6:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

I have folders too. I’ve been using iPhones for years. But after a while, you 
get more apps. And besides, even if you know precisely what folder an app is 
in, you still have to open the folder find the app and open it. If Siri worked 
like it should, it would be much more efficient to just use it to open apps. 
But even this morning, when I say Open such and such app and give the precise 
name, it comes back and asks me which app do you want this one that one or 
another one, all in the same general app category. This after I’ve stated 
something specifically. Anyway, this just started with the so-called upgrade to 
17.1. Feels like a regression to me.  And there wasn’t that much to regress 
from. I still prefer iOS to android. But really Apple. Get it together on Siri. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2023, at 9:52 PM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
> 
> Hi Group,
> 
> I guess it depends on what you are using these automated helpers for. I find 
> Siri better than Alexa or Curtana for general knowledge.  As far as opening 
> apps, I do that myself. Early on when I first began using the iPhone, I 
> learned to edit my home screen, group various apps by category into folders 
> and so on. Even when using the contacts listing in e-mails,  text or phone 
> calls, I add all regularly used addresses to the contacts list and the only 
> time I ever use Siri to make calls/texts is if the addressee is not in my 
> contacts list.  Siri never misses when I ask her call (998) 555-.
> I almost never ask Siri to be involved at all in apps.
> 
> 
>> On 10/25/2023 11:18 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Mary,
>> 
>> You've got me smiling.  Thank you.
>> 
>> I have to admit, I agree with you.
>> 
>> I continue to be amazed at the power of Alexa and other assistants in 
>> comparison to Siri.  It's interesting since Siri existed before any of the 
>> others.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 7:56 PM
>> To: via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.
>> 
>> I just upgraded to iOS 17.1. I’m grateful for the post about the language 
>> rotor, which was unnecessarily unchecked. But now, Siri is even dumber than 
>> before. When I ask her to open Pedometer, it asks which app Pedometer or 
>> StepUp. I clearly said Pedometer. So why does it need to ask that? Further, 
>> when I reply to it stupid question which app by saying Pedometer, it says 
>> uh-oh there’s a problem. The app is there, and if I find it on my phone I 
>> can open it. Really Apple, you are really behind the eight ball here.  My 
>> Samsung device opens stuff just fine with the much-maligned Bixby. Siri, 
>> worthless. Apple really has fallen way behind the curve and this has nothing 
>> to do with AI. Get your stuff together Apple.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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RE: IOS17.1 first impressions: language rotor missing, Notifications fixed

2023-10-26 Thread Star Gazer

So glad this got fixed and also thank you for the tip 
re the language app 

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Corripio
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 5:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS17.1 first impressions: language rotor missing, Notifications 
fixed

Remember the glitch withinthe Weather app, that when you swipe by hour, the 
focus would jump to the top, and switch to the next city? This is now fixed!''
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 25 oct 2023, a la(s) 2:35 p.m., davycupp...@gmail.com escribió:
> 
> Invoke siri and the lower tone does nolonger show up. Maybe this is meant 
> tob e, I will not complain about this.
> Davy
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Gerardo 
> Corripio
> Verzonden: woensdag 25 oktober 2023 21:34
> Aan: iPhone List 
> Onderwerp: IOS17.1 first impressions: language rotor missing, Notifications 
> fixed
> 
> Just updated both my IPHone and IPad to 17.1, and it’s so weird what I’m 
> going to say: the Language rotor option isn’t there! On both my IPHone and 
> IPad, I had to head on over to voiceOver rotor options, with the surprise 
> that the Language option wasn’t checked! Thus upon checking it once again, it 
> shows up as it should. So just so that you’ll can aware of this little 
> annoyance.
> What I’m loving the iOS17.1, though, is that apparently the VoiceOver 
> Notification reading bug is fixed! I tested this by going into 
> voiceOver/Verbosity/System Notifications, and within the Blocked Screen 
> section of the Settings, checked “Don’t do Nothing”, and yes it worked! 
> VoiceOver was speechless (not even the time as  did with the 17.0 cycle), of 
> which I’m very happy! This is what I’d been expecting all along! What makes 
> me happier is that I no longer have to turn off teh speech as before!
> Oh and the update is sort of big! On my th Generation IPad it was around 
> 900MB, and on this IPHone se 2nd Generation, the 17.1 updated cloked just a 
> it over a GB”!Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
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Graysky (a Bluesky client) and VoiceOver accessibility

2023-10-26 Thread Cristóbal Muñoz

Hello list,

Has anyone had a chance to play with Graysky and have they found it to be
accessible? Someone on Bluesky said they’ve been using the beta and that
some of their Voiceover accessibility feedback has been addressed. However,
when I downloaded the app now that it’s out of beta, I get nowhere. There’s
no Voiceover feedback at all when swiping or tapping. 

Also, as the Bluesky app and website are pretty difficult to navigate to
outright inaccessible, I’ve been using Mona to access 

Bluesky via Skybridge.
 

This has worked well as Mona’s already a very accessible Mastodon client,
but the issue I’m coming across is that I get a ton of internal server error
or your connection has timed out messages. I encounter the same connection
issues with Ivory

So it doesn’t seem like it’s an app specific issue.

I figured I’d give Graysky a try and see if there’s any difference or
improvement with the Skybridge workaround, but as I can’t do anything with
it when I open the app…

Anyway, if there are any bluesky users on here and have been able to get
Graysky to work or if they know of a fix for the connectivity issues with
third party apps, it would be great to get some feedback.

Thanks,

Cristóbal

 

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Re: FW: Be My Eyes AI feature

2023-10-26 Thread Ann Byrne


It is amazing.

I took a picture of a shirt, but my stinkin' cat got in the way.  Be 
My Eyes described the shirt, read the text, then said: "Also, there 
is a brown cat sitting on the shirt".  Recognizing the cat wasn't 
part of the shirt at all.

 At 09:40 AM 10/26/2023, you wrote:
I was given a loaf of gluten free bread yesterday.  This morning, in 
a very dark kitchen, before sunrise, I wanted to double check the 
exact type of bread for future purchase.  After trying several Bar 
Code apps and getting an invalid Bar Code, I didn't even think about 
turning the light on, and just used Be My Eyes AI to take a picture 
of the label.

Here is the result:
The picture shows a loaf of bread in a plastic packaging. The 
packaging has a label that reads "New Cascadia Tradition". It is 
gluten-free Honey Gold sandwich bread. The label also mentions that 
it is whole grain, non-GMO, potato-free, dairy-free, nut-free, 
soy-free, and always gluten-free. The net weight is 19.5 oz (553g). 
The packaging also has a "Certified Gluten-Free" logo and a 
"Certified Paleo" logo. There is also text that says "Visit our 
cafe!". The bread is placed on a countertop with a drawer handle 
visible at the bottom of the picture. The picture is taken in dim light.


I am extremely impressed with this feature of Be My Eyes.

Richard

website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

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RE: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

2023-10-26 Thread Corey Cook

I have noticed in recent weeks that Alexa is really not listening as well 
sometimes.

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Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Siri is not the only dumb one out there.

We have timers set in Alexa for different things.

We have a lot of Sonos speakers in the house, the one in our bedroom does not 
have the microphone and so does not support Alexa.
IN our Kitchen we have two that do have the microphone and have one timer set 
up called "Carol's Timer" which is for steeping her tea.

This morning, standing in the kitchen next to the speaker, I said, "Start 
Carol's timer," and Alexa responded, "Bedroom doesn't support that."

This sort of thing happens at a similar frequency with Siri being dumb, which 
is what we get for depending on "Artificial Intelligence."  And I do mean 
Artificial!

Richard, USA.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 6:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I have had better luck when I use the word launch instead of open. I don't know 
why but sometimes it works

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I have folders too. I’ve been using iPhones for years. But after a while, you 
get more apps. And besides, even if you know precisely what folder an app is 
in, you still have to open the folder find the app and open it. If Siri worked 
like it should, it would be much more efficient to just use it to open apps. 
But even this morning, when I say Open such and such app and give the precise 
name, it comes back and asks me which app do you want this one that one or 
another one, all in the same general app category. This after I’ve stated 
something specifically. Anyway, this just started with the so-called upgrade to 
17.1. Feels like a regression to me.  And there wasn’t that much to regress 
from. I still prefer iOS to android. But really Apple. Get it together on Siri.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2023, at 9:52 PM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
>
> Hi Group,
>
> I guess it depends on what you are using these automated helpers for. I find 
> Siri better than Alexa or Curtana for general knowledge.  As far as opening 
> apps, I do that myself. Early on when I first began using the iPhone, I 
> learned to edit my home screen, group various apps by category into folders 
> and so on. Even when using the contacts listing in e-mails,  text or phone 
> calls, I add all regularly used addresses to the contacts list and the only 
> time I ever use Siri to make calls/texts is if the addressee is not in my 
> contacts list.  Siri never misses when I ask her call (998) 555-.
> I almost never ask Siri to be involved at all in apps.
>
>
>> On 10/25/2023 11:18 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Mary,
>>
>> You've got me smiling.  Thank you.
>>
>> I have to admit, I agree with you.
>>
>> I continue to be amazed at the power of Alexa and other assistants in 
>> comparison to Siri.  It's interesting since Siri existed before any of the 
>> others.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 7:56 PM
>> To: via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.
>>
>> I just upgraded to iOS 17.1. I’m grateful for the post about the language 
>> rotor, which was unnecessarily unchecked. But now, Siri is even dumber than 
>> before. When I ask her to open Pedometer, it asks which app Pedometer or 
>> StepUp. I clearly said Pedometer. So why does it need to ask that? Further, 
>> when I reply to it stupid question which app by saying Pedometer, it says 
>> uh-oh there’s a problem. The app is there, and if I find it on my phone I 
>> can open it. Really Apple, you are really behind the eight ball here.  My 
>> Samsung device opens stuff just fine with the much-maligned Bixby. Siri, 
>> worthless. Apple really has fallen way behind the curve and this has nothing 
>> to do with AI. Get your stuff together Apple.
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Be My Eyes AI feature

2023-10-26 Thread Corey Cook

That feature is game changing.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 10:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: Be My Eyes AI feature

I was given a loaf of gluten free bread yesterday.  This morning, in a very 
dark kitchen, before sunrise, I wanted to double check the exact type of bread 
for future purchase.  After trying several Bar Code apps and getting an invalid 
Bar Code, I didn't even think about turning the light on, and just used Be My 
Eyes AI to take a picture of the label.
Here is the result:
The picture shows a loaf of bread in a plastic packaging. The packaging has a 
label that reads "New Cascadia Tradition". It is gluten-free Honey Gold 
sandwich bread. The label also mentions that it is whole grain, non-GMO, 
potato-free, dairy-free, nut-free, soy-free, and always gluten-free. The net 
weight is 19.5 oz (553g). The packaging also has a "Certified Gluten-Free" logo 
and a "Certified Paleo" logo. There is also text that says "Visit our cafe!". 
The bread is placed on a countertop with a drawer handle visible at the bottom 
of the picture. The picture is taken in dim light.

I am extremely impressed with this feature of Be My Eyes.

Richard

website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

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RE: mail issue query

2023-10-26 Thread Corey Cook

Set it up in the native mail app.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mail issue query

I just setup it just in the gmail app only. 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 26 October 2023 14:05
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mail issue query

I’m a bit confused by your message. Did you set up a Gmail account in the IOS 
Mail app or did you set up the Gmail app? If you did both, and you’re using 
IMAP, then your messages should show up in both places.

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Subject: mail issue query

Hi 

I purchased the latest iphone se, and my problem is that when I setup the gmail 
I am notice that all the emails are going in to it and not in to the mail app. 

So,can anyone explain to me what I should do to make the emails go in to the 
mail app instead please?

Thanks in advance 

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RE: Be My Eyes AI feature

2023-10-26 Thread Richard Turner

The pictures are not saved anywhere.  They are used to do the analysis and then 
dumped.
To save them, you would actually have to simply use the camera and take the 
photo, then under the share option for that photo, select Describe with Be My 
AI.


HTH,



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-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My Eyes AI feature

Richard, I have been impressed with the AI feature of be my eyes too.  I took a 
selfy and was quiter surprised to discover the color of the top I was wearing.  
My friend confirmed its accuracy.  Also used it to read computer screen when 
Jaws was not working.  I do have a question.  Where do your pictures go?  Are 
they just deleted, or are they hanging out somewhere in the cloud?  I have not 
found an option for saving or deleting them.  Thanks.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 10:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: Be My Eyes AI feature

I was given a loaf of gluten free bread yesterday.  This morning, in a very 
dark kitchen, before sunrise, I wanted to double check the exact type of bread 
for future purchase.  After trying several Bar Code apps and getting an invalid 
Bar Code, I didn't even think about turning the light on, and just used Be My 
Eyes AI to take a picture of the label.
Here is the result:
The picture shows a loaf of bread in a plastic packaging. The packaging has a 
label that reads "New Cascadia Tradition". It is gluten-free Honey Gold 
sandwich bread. The label also mentions that it is whole grain, non-GMO, 
potato-free, dairy-free, nut-free, soy-free, and always gluten-free. The net 
weight is 19.5 oz (553g). The packaging also has a "Certified Gluten-Free" logo 
and a "Certified Paleo" logo. There is also text that says "Visit our cafe!". 
The bread is placed on a countertop with a drawer handle visible at the bottom 
of the picture. The picture is taken in dim light.

I am extremely impressed with this feature of Be My Eyes.

Richard

website:  www.turner42.com

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Re: Using iPhone with Wi-Fi calling?

2023-10-26 Thread Michael Irons

I have an iPhone six. I have Wi-Fi calling turned on on yet and my current iPhone. I can receive calls on the iPhone 6 and actually answer calls but I can’t make calls from that iPhone. The iPhone 6 hacks as an extension of my current iPhone.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 26, 2023, at 10:52 AM, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:






It only works if your carrior has that 
feature.

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  calling?
  
  Hi guys,
  So, here is the question.  I have an older 
  iPhone which is a 6-S and since it is not my current phone, there is no cim 
  card so, of course no making phone calls with it.  It still rings and is 
  aware that calls are coming in.  If I turn on Wi-Fi calling, can I still 
  make and receive calls?  I have to admit that I have not tried yet and 
  thought that someone might have a quick answer for me.  Thanks 
  much.
   
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Re: Using iPhone with Wi-Fi calling?

2023-10-26 Thread Robert Doc Wright

It only works if your carrior has that feature.
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  Subject: Using iPhone with Wi-Fi calling?

  Hi guys,
  So, here is the question.  I have an older iPhone which is a 6-S and since 
it is not my current phone, there is no cim card so, of course no making 
phone calls with it.  It still rings and is aware that calls are coming in. 
If I turn on Wi-Fi calling, can I still make and receive calls?  I have to 
admit that I have not tried yet and thought that someone might have a quick 
answer for me.  Thanks much.

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RE: Be My Eyes AI feature

2023-10-26 Thread karl

I guess I'll pile in here as well. A week ago I was sitting in the gate area in 
the Monroe Louisiana airport. It was about 40 minutes before my flight and 
there were very few people around. I had to use the restroom so decided to use 
Be My AI to see what was around me. A couple of pictures described an airport 
lounge, windows and chairs. Last the description was of an airport hallway and 
then an arrow pointing left that says baggage claim and an arrow pointing right 
that says restrooms. Well, now I knew the general direction of the restrooms. I 
went to the right and found what I needed. This stuff is really amazing.

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Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My Eyes AI feature

Richard, I have been impressed with the AI feature of be my eyes too.  I took a 
selfy and was quiter surprised to discover the color of the top I was wearing.  
My friend confirmed its accuracy.  Also used it to read computer screen when 
Jaws was not working.  I do have a question.  Where do your pictures go?  Are 
they just deleted, or are they hanging out somewhere in the cloud?  I have not 
found an option for saving or deleting them.  Thanks.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 10:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: Be My Eyes AI feature

I was given a loaf of gluten free bread yesterday.  This morning, in a very 
dark kitchen, before sunrise, I wanted to double check the exact type of bread 
for future purchase.  After trying several Bar Code apps and getting an invalid 
Bar Code, I didn't even think about turning the light on, and just used Be My 
Eyes AI to take a picture of the label.
Here is the result:
The picture shows a loaf of bread in a plastic packaging. The packaging has a 
label that reads "New Cascadia Tradition". It is gluten-free Honey Gold 
sandwich bread. The label also mentions that it is whole grain, non-GMO, 
potato-free, dairy-free, nut-free, soy-free, and always gluten-free. The net 
weight is 19.5 oz (553g). The packaging also has a "Certified Gluten-Free" logo 
and a "Certified Paleo" logo. There is also text that says "Visit our cafe!". 
The bread is placed on a countertop with a drawer handle visible at the bottom 
of the picture. The picture is taken in dim light.

I am extremely impressed with this feature of Be My Eyes.

Richard

website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

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RE: Be My Eyes AI feature

2023-10-26 Thread khevener

Richard, I have been impressed with the AI feature of be my eyes too.  I took a 
selfy and was quiter surprised to discover the color of the top I was wearing.  
My friend confirmed its accuracy.  Also used it to read computer screen when 
Jaws was not working.  I do have a question.  Where do your pictures go?  Are 
they just deleted, or are they hanging out somewhere in the cloud?  I have not 
found an option for saving or deleting them.  Thanks.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 10:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: Be My Eyes AI feature

I was given a loaf of gluten free bread yesterday.  This morning, in a very 
dark kitchen, before sunrise, I wanted to double check the exact type of bread 
for future purchase.  After trying several Bar Code apps and getting an invalid 
Bar Code, I didn't even think about turning the light on, and just used Be My 
Eyes AI to take a picture of the label.
Here is the result:
The picture shows a loaf of bread in a plastic packaging. The packaging has a 
label that reads "New Cascadia Tradition". It is gluten-free Honey Gold 
sandwich bread. The label also mentions that it is whole grain, non-GMO, 
potato-free, dairy-free, nut-free, soy-free, and always gluten-free. The net 
weight is 19.5 oz (553g). The packaging also has a "Certified Gluten-Free" logo 
and a "Certified Paleo" logo. There is also text that says "Visit our cafe!". 
The bread is placed on a countertop with a drawer handle visible at the bottom 
of the picture. The picture is taken in dim light.

I am extremely impressed with this feature of Be My Eyes.

Richard

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RE: mail issue query

2023-10-26 Thread anthonyborg001

I just setup it just in the gmail app only. 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 26 October 2023 14:05
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mail issue query

I’m a bit confused by your message. Did you set up a Gmail account in the IOS 
Mail app or did you set up the Gmail app? If you did both, and you’re using 
IMAP, then your messages should show up in both places.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: mail issue query

Hi 

I purchased the latest iphone se, and my problem is that when I setup the gmail 
I am notice that all the emails are going in to it and not in to the mail app. 

So,can anyone explain to me what I should do to make the emails go in to the 
mail app instead please?

Thanks in advance 

Anthony 

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RE: mail issue query

2023-10-26 Thread anthonyborg001

I setup the gmail because that’s what I use to send and receiv emails, but in 
the mail app there is much more features. 

Can I now setup my account in the IOS mail as well to make the emails go there? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 26 October 2023 7:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mail issue query

 

Why do you set up a Gmail app if you don’t want to use it but instead want the 
Mail app to check  your email?

 

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anthonyborg...@gmail.com  
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: mail issue query

 

Hi 

 

I purchased the latest iphone se, and my problem is that when I setup the gmail 
I am notice that all the emails are going in to it and not in to the mail app. 

So,can anyone explain to me what I should do to make the emails go in to the 
mail app instead please?

Thanks in advance 

 

Anthony 

 

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RE: seo in communication

2023-10-26 Thread Carolyn Arnold

Yes, and I just delete them without opening them. 

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Ron Canazzi
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Subject: Re: seo in communication

Hi Group,

In the past few hours, I have gotten a bunch of e-mails from this list filtered 
properly into my viPhone folder that contain only links.  I would think this 
must be some sort of Spam.  Is anyone else receiving these types of e-mails?



On 10/26/2023 12:53 AM, Ghulam Abbas wrote:


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FW: Be My Eyes AI feature

2023-10-26 Thread Richard Turner

I was given a loaf of gluten free bread yesterday.  This morning, in a very 
dark kitchen, before sunrise, I wanted to double check the exact type of bread 
for future purchase.  After trying several Bar Code apps and getting an invalid 
Bar Code, I didn't even think about turning the light on, and just used Be My 
Eyes AI to take a picture of the label.
Here is the result:
The picture shows a loaf of bread in a plastic packaging. The packaging has a 
label that reads "New Cascadia Tradition". It is gluten-free Honey Gold 
sandwich bread. The label also mentions that it is whole grain, non-GMO, 
potato-free, dairy-free, nut-free, soy-free, and always gluten-free. The net 
weight is 19.5 oz (553g). The packaging also has a "Certified Gluten-Free" logo 
and a "Certified Paleo" logo. There is also text that says "Visit our cafe!". 
The bread is placed on a countertop with a drawer handle visible at the bottom 
of the picture. The picture is taken in dim light.

I am extremely impressed with this feature of Be My Eyes.

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RE: mail issue query

2023-10-26 Thread Akweteireho

Hi--Sent from my phoneviphone@googlegroups.com wrote:







I’m a bit confused by your message. Did you set up a Gmail account in the IOS Mail app or did you set up the Gmail app? If you did both, and you’re using IMAP, then your messages should
 show up in both places.
 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hi 
 
I purchased the latest iphone se, and my problem is that when I setup the gmail I am notice that all the emails are going in to it and not in to the mail app.

So,can anyone explain to me what I should do to make the emails go in to the mail app instead please?
Thanks in advance 
 
Anthony 
 
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RE: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

2023-10-26 Thread Richard Turner

Siri is not the only dumb one out there.

We have timers set in Alexa for different things.

We have a lot of Sonos speakers in the house, the one in our bedroom does not 
have the microphone and so does not support Alexa.
IN our Kitchen we have two that do have the microphone and have one timer set 
up called "Carol's Timer" which is for steeping her tea.

This morning, standing in the kitchen next to the speaker, I said, "Start 
Carol's timer," and Alexa responded, "Bedroom doesn't support that."

This sort of thing happens at a similar frequency with Siri being dumb, which 
is what we get for depending on "Artificial Intelligence."  And I do mean 
Artificial!

Richard, USA.
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--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 6:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

I have had better luck when I use the word launch instead of open. I don't know 
why but sometimes it works

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Otten
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

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I have folders too. I’ve been using iPhones for years. But after a while, you 
get more apps. And besides, even if you know precisely what folder an app is 
in, you still have to open the folder find the app and open it. If Siri worked 
like it should, it would be much more efficient to just use it to open apps. 
But even this morning, when I say Open such and such app and give the precise 
name, it comes back and asks me which app do you want this one that one or 
another one, all in the same general app category. This after I’ve stated 
something specifically. Anyway, this just started with the so-called upgrade to 
17.1. Feels like a regression to me.  And there wasn’t that much to regress 
from. I still prefer iOS to android. But really Apple. Get it together on Siri.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2023, at 9:52 PM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
>
> Hi Group,
>
> I guess it depends on what you are using these automated helpers for. I find 
> Siri better than Alexa or Curtana for general knowledge.  As far as opening 
> apps, I do that myself. Early on when I first began using the iPhone, I 
> learned to edit my home screen, group various apps by category into folders 
> and so on. Even when using the contacts listing in e-mails,  text or phone 
> calls, I add all regularly used addresses to the contacts list and the only 
> time I ever use Siri to make calls/texts is if the addressee is not in my 
> contacts list.  Siri never misses when I ask her call (998) 555-.
> I almost never ask Siri to be involved at all in apps.
>
>
>> On 10/25/2023 11:18 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Mary,
>>
>> You've got me smiling.  Thank you.
>>
>> I have to admit, I agree with you.
>>
>> I continue to be amazed at the power of Alexa and other assistants in 
>> comparison to Siri.  It's interesting since Siri existed before any of the 
>> others.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 7:56 PM
>> To: via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.
>>
>> I just upgraded to iOS 17.1. I’m grateful for the post about the language 
>> rotor, which was unnecessarily unchecked. But now, Siri is even dumber than 
>> before. When I ask her to open Pedometer, it asks which app Pedometer or 
>> StepUp. I clearly said Pedometer. So why does it need to ask that? Further, 
>> when I reply to it stupid question which app by saying Pedometer, it says 
>> uh-oh there’s a problem. The app is there, and if I find it on my phone I 
>> can open it. Really Apple, you are really behind the eight ball here.  My 
>> Samsung device opens stuff just fine with the much-maligned Bixby. Siri, 
>> worthless. Apple really has fallen way behind the curve and this has nothing 
>> to do with AI. Get your stuff together Apple.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
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RE: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

2023-10-26 Thread Laury, Shawnese (LEO)

I have had better luck when I use the word launch instead of open. I don't know 
why but sometimes it works

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I have folders too. I’ve been using iPhones for years. But after a while, you 
get more apps. And besides, even if you know precisely what folder an app is 
in, you still have to open the folder find the app and open it. If Siri worked 
like it should, it would be much more efficient to just use it to open apps. 
But even this morning, when I say Open such and such app and give the precise 
name, it comes back and asks me which app do you want this one that one or 
another one, all in the same general app category. This after I’ve stated 
something specifically. Anyway, this just started with the so-called upgrade to 
17.1. Feels like a regression to me.  And there wasn’t that much to regress 
from. I still prefer iOS to android. But really Apple. Get it together on Siri.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2023, at 9:52 PM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
>
> Hi Group,
>
> I guess it depends on what you are using these automated helpers for. I find 
> Siri better than Alexa or Curtana for general knowledge.  As far as opening 
> apps, I do that myself. Early on when I first began using the iPhone, I 
> learned to edit my home screen, group various apps by category into folders 
> and so on. Even when using the contacts listing in e-mails,  text or phone 
> calls, I add all regularly used addresses to the contacts list and the only 
> time I ever use Siri to make calls/texts is if the addressee is not in my 
> contacts list.  Siri never misses when I ask her call (998) 555-.
> I almost never ask Siri to be involved at all in apps.
>
>
>> On 10/25/2023 11:18 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Mary,
>>
>> You've got me smiling.  Thank you.
>>
>> I have to admit, I agree with you.
>>
>> I continue to be amazed at the power of Alexa and other assistants in 
>> comparison to Siri.  It's interesting since Siri existed before any of the 
>> others.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 7:56 PM
>> To: via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.
>>
>> I just upgraded to iOS 17.1. I’m grateful for the post about the language 
>> rotor, which was unnecessarily unchecked. But now, Siri is even dumber than 
>> before. When I ask her to open Pedometer, it asks which app Pedometer or 
>> StepUp. I clearly said Pedometer. So why does it need to ask that? Further, 
>> when I reply to it stupid question which app by saying Pedometer, it says 
>> uh-oh there’s a problem. The app is there, and if I find it on my phone I 
>> can open it. Really Apple, you are really behind the eight ball here.  My 
>> Samsung device opens stuff just fine with the much-maligned Bixby. Siri, 
>> worthless. Apple really has fallen way behind the curve and this has nothing 
>> to do with AI. Get your stuff together Apple.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
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Re: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

2023-10-26 Thread Mary Otten

I have folders too. I’ve been using iPhones for years. But after a while, you 
get more apps. And besides, even if you know precisely what folder an app is 
in, you still have to open the folder find the app and open it. If Siri worked 
like it should, it would be much more efficient to just use it to open apps. 
But even this morning, when I say Open such and such app and give the precise 
name, it comes back and asks me which app do you want this one that one or 
another one, all in the same general app category. This after I’ve stated 
something specifically. Anyway, this just started with the so-called upgrade to 
17.1. Feels like a regression to me.  And there wasn’t that much to regress 
from. I still prefer iOS to android. But really Apple. Get it together on Siri. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2023, at 9:52 PM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
> 
> Hi Group,
> 
> I guess it depends on what you are using these automated helpers for. I find 
> Siri better than Alexa or Curtana for general knowledge.  As far as opening 
> apps, I do that myself. Early on when I first began using the iPhone, I 
> learned to edit my home screen, group various apps by category into folders 
> and so on. Even when using the contacts listing in e-mails,  text or phone 
> calls, I add all regularly used addresses to the contacts list and the only 
> time I ever use Siri to make calls/texts is if the addressee is not in my 
> contacts list.  Siri never misses when I ask her call (998) 555-.
> I almost never ask Siri to be involved at all in apps.
> 
> 
>> On 10/25/2023 11:18 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Mary,
>> 
>> You've got me smiling.  Thank you.
>> 
>> I have to admit, I agree with you.
>> 
>> I continue to be amazed at the power of Alexa and other assistants in 
>> comparison to Siri.  It's interesting since Siri existed before any of the 
>> others.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 7:56 PM
>> To: via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.
>> 
>> I just upgraded to iOS 17.1. I’m grateful for the post about the language 
>> rotor, which was unnecessarily unchecked. But now, Siri is even dumber than 
>> before. When I ask her to open Pedometer, it asks which app Pedometer or 
>> StepUp. I clearly said Pedometer. So why does it need to ask that? Further, 
>> when I reply to it stupid question which app by saying Pedometer, it says 
>> uh-oh there’s a problem. The app is there, and if I find it on my phone I 
>> can open it. Really Apple, you are really behind the eight ball here.  My 
>> Samsung device opens stuff just fine with the much-maligned Bixby. Siri, 
>> worthless. Apple really has fallen way behind the curve and this has nothing 
>> to do with AI. Get your stuff together Apple.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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RE: mail issue query

2023-10-26 Thread Christopher Chaltain

I'm a bit confused by your message. Did you set up a Gmail account in the IOS 
Mail app or did you set up the Gmail app? If you did both, and you're using 
IMAP, then your messages should show up in both places.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: mail issue query

Hi

I purchased the latest iphone se, and my problem is that when I setup the gmail 
I am notice that all the emails are going in to it and not in to the mail app.
So,can anyone explain to me what I should do to make the emails go in to the 
mail app instead please?
Thanks in advance

Anthony

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Using iPhone with Wi-Fi calling?

2023-10-26 Thread Kay Malmquist

Hi guys,
So, here is the question.  I have an older iPhone which is a 6-S and since 
it is not my current phone, there is no cim card so, of course no making 
phone calls with it.  It still rings and is aware that calls are coming in. 
If I turn on Wi-Fi calling, can I still make and receive calls?  I have to 
admit that I have not tried yet and thought that someone might have a quick 
answer for me.  Thanks much.

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do not update facebook version 438.2 bug for embedded links not spoken

2023-10-26 Thread davycuppens

Dear folks 

The bug that embedded links especially for newsgroups or newspapers that
provide such postings, were nolonger read by voiceover, is back, so do not
update if you like to use your facebook in that way regularly.
Best regards 
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RE: mail issue query

2023-10-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Why do you set up a Gmail app if you don’t want to use it but instead want the 
Mail app to check  your email?

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: mail issue query

Hi

I purchased the latest iphone se, and my problem is that when I setup the gmail 
I am notice that all the emails are going in to it and not in to the mail app.
So,can anyone explain to me what I should do to make the emails go in to the 
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Thanks in advance

Anthony

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RE: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

2023-10-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

I agree entirely about how ridiculously limited Siri can be, but if you are 
using an iPhone you take the bad with the good and that is no didfferent if you 
have an Android phone. It' sup to you which platform has more good and less bad.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 8:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

Frankly, Mark, it seems to me that they’ve all gotten stupider recently, 
so-called AI not withstanding. I mean really. Alexa is worthless for sports. 
You get all kinds of crap from that. Google Assistant well not so much. But 
when I can’t get Siri to open an app on my phone without a big fat hassle, that 
just takes the cake. Open Watch. Which watch app do you want Hulu or YouTube or 
Watch? Well G. I said watch app. I didn’t say anything about Hulu or YouTube. 
This crap is just ridiculous. Any assistant on a phone should be smart enough 
to know when you’re asking it to open an app that you have on your phone. 
Samsung phones have no problem with this. It’s just ridiculous. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2023, at 8:18 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> You've got me smiling.  Thank you.
> 
> I have to admit, I agree with you.  
> 
> I continue to be amazed at the power of Alexa and other assistants in 
> comparison to Siri.  It's interesting since Siri existed before any of the 
> others.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 7:56 PM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.
> 
> I just upgraded to iOS 17.1. I’m grateful for the post about the language 
> rotor, which was unnecessarily unchecked. But now, Siri is even dumber than 
> before. When I ask her to open Pedometer, it asks which app Pedometer or 
> StepUp. I clearly said Pedometer. So why does it need to ask that? Further, 
> when I reply to it stupid question which app by saying Pedometer, it says 
> uh-oh there’s a problem. The app is there, and if I find it on my phone I can 
> open it. Really Apple, you are really behind the eight ball here.  My Samsung 
> device opens stuff just fine with the much-maligned Bixby. Siri, worthless. 
> Apple really has fallen way behind the curve and this has nothing to do with 
> AI. Get your stuff together Apple.
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: IOS17.1 first impressions: language rotor missing, Notifications fixed

2023-10-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Would have never noticed it because I never use this "Voiceover way" of getting 
to notification centre or, for that matter, tha tcontrol centre. With just a 
little practice you can get notification and control centre the same way you do 
the swipe up from the bottom to go back to the home screen or bring up the app 
switcher. Instead of touching near the bottom and swiping up to go home or up 
further to bring  up the app switcher, you can touch anywhere on the status bar 
and drag your finger down a bit for control centre or go further and you get 
notification centre.


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Corripio
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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fixed

Yeah... I was hoping they'd fix this issue in this new update! It's been around 
since 17.0, but no joy! Hopefully it'll be fixed by 17.2 then?
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 25 oct 2023, a la(s) 8:10 p.m., Robin Frost  
> escribió:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> One annoyance I've noted is that when on the status line I can do a 3 finger 
> swipe down for Notification center on any icon but the battery level 
> indicator. I don't know if there's some visual difference with this icon as 
> opposed to the others that would account for this difference but so far this 
> is my experience.
> 
> Take good care,
> 
> Robin
> 
> 
>> On 10/25/2023 3:33 PM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
>> Just updated both my IPHone and IPad to 17.1, and it’s so weird what I’m 
>> going to say: the Language rotor option isn’t there! On both my IPHone and 
>> IPad, I had to head on over to voiceOver rotor options, with the surprise 
>> that the Language option wasn’t checked! Thus upon checking it once again, 
>> it shows up as it should. So just so that you’ll can aware of this little 
>> annoyance.
>> What I’m loving the iOS17.1, though, is that apparently the VoiceOver 
>> Notification reading bug is fixed! I tested this by going into 
>> voiceOver/Verbosity/System Notifications, and within the Blocked Screen 
>> section of the Settings, checked “Don’t do Nothing”, and yes it worked! 
>> VoiceOver was speechless (not even the time as  did with the 17.0 cycle), of 
>> which I’m very happy! This is what I’d been expecting all along! What makes 
>> me happier is that I no longer have to turn off teh speech as before!
>> Oh and the update is sort of big! On my th Generation IPad it was 
>> around 900MB, and on this IPHone se 2nd Generation, the 17.1 updated 
>> cloked just a it over a GB”!Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd 
>> Generation) de Telcel
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