Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

[Ron Canazzi]

Hi Group,

The Book Share program itself now has its own app. It is free and while 
a bit limited, it does read book share books quite well and the recent 
addition of a bookmark feature makes it usable in that limited context.


On 3/26/2024 12:38 AM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
You guys are forgetting about the "Dolphin Easy Reader" app; which has 
a Bookshare interface. It's free, thus I plan to use it even more if 
Voice Dream ends up being subscriptiononly. Good luck!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 25 mar 2024, a la(s) 9:01 p.m., Mary Otten  
escribió:


Thanks for the clarification. I never get audiobooks from books 
share, so book player I don’t care. Kind of sucks. I still think I 
should be able to download stuff as long as I don’t try to upgrade. 
You can always do that with everything else. If I have an apple 
device for instance, and it’s not getting updates anymore I can still 
use it. This kind of stinks from that aspect. They shouldn’t cut us 
off from being able to download anything from Bookshare because we 
don’t want to pay. What if we don’t give a good bloody damn about 
whatever they think they’re going to implement that we’re going to 
pay for.  I’m not happy about that. But it’s the best thing out there 
so far. God knows the garbage from speech central doesn’t get it 
done. It’s too bad.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 25, 2024, at 7:53 PM, William James  wrote:

BookPlayer is an audio only player.  It plays zipped files, MP3, 
 M4A, and M4B.  You can get it from the following link.



   
BookPlayer 
Plays M4B/M4A/MP3 audiobooks 





Sent from my iPad Air 5


On Mar 25, 2024, at 7:59 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I tend to agree with you, Richard. What is book player if you 
know? I had never heard of bookplayer app. There is no way I’m 
going to speech Central. It’s just too clunky. If he did what he’s 
been asked to do and implemented an easy way to download bookshare 
books right through the app, Then I would possibly reconsider. But 
I don’t give two figures for all that fancy Voice stuff he’s doing. 
I’m perfectly happy with what I have now.

Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:41 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:




I have not updated today.

But, if anyone wants to go back and look at what Winston Chen had 
said when he sold Voice Dream LLC., he made it clear that he would 
have had to begin charging a subscription to be able to maintain 
development and he had already started the Mac version as a 
subscription.


$59 a year seems perfectly reasonable to me if you want the app to 
continue.


You can always dump it for DAISY Easy Reader or Speech Central and 
deal with much harder interfaces and keep it free…


Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance 
and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell 
when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines 
for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl 
Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)


My web site: https://www.turner42.com 

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Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

[Ron Canazzi]

Hi Sarai,

You wrote:

Yes, but not caviar!  The average yearly subscription for most Apple 
apps is between 5 and 10 dollars US.  59 dollars is incredibly high.




On 3/25/2024 8:24 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:


Developers have to eat too. They should get paid.

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Cristóbal Muñoz

*Sent:* Monday, March 25, 2024 7:05 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Making everyone pay for voice dream

So I opened up the app again and got the banner at the bottom of the 
screen. Not sure if I’ll sign onto the $60, but honestly, I more than 
got my money’s worth and then some for this app if this is the case.


I believe BookPlayer also has an in-app payment option for cloud 
storage and syncing.


For some folks, the 60 bucks for VDR might even be worth it as you can 
use just one app for both eBooks and audiobooks. Everyone knows their 
own budget though.


Cristóbal

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Mary Otten

*Sent:* Monday, March 25, 2024 4:59 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

I tend to agree with you, Richard. What is book player if you know? I 
had never heard of bookplayer app. There is no way I’m going to speech 
Central. It’s just too clunky. If he did what he’s been asked to do 
and implemented an easy way to download bookshare books right through 
the app, Then I would possibly reconsider. But I don’t give two 
figures for all that fancy Voice stuff he’s doing. I’m perfectly happy 
with what I have now.


Mary

Sent from my iPhone



On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:41 PM, Richard Turner
 wrote:



I have not updated today.

But, if anyone wants to go back and look at what Winston Chen had
said when he sold Voice Dream LLC., he made it clear that he would
have had to begin charging a subscription to be able to maintain
development and he had already started the Mac version as a
subscription.

$59 a year seems perfectly reasonable to me if you want the app to
continue.

You can always dump it for DAISY Easy Reader or Speech Central and
deal with much harder interfaces and keep it free…

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance
and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell
when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines
for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl
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Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

[Ron Canazzi]

Hi Group,

I wouldn't mind paing for the app, but fifty-nine dollars yearly??? I 
pay only a little more for Windows 365 and get a lot more than the 
current Voice Dream Reader proportionately.  What new features does this 
new version have?



On 3/25/2024 7:59 PM, regina alvarado wrote:
The email said it starts on May 1. When I went to the link, it showed 
me that it was $59 a year. It had all kinds of things they had done 
and why they would change to everyone. I bought it I think for five 
dollars. I was one of the first people to buy it I think. It said that 
on May 1, you will no longer be able to download anything. I use it 
only for books share and I’m very sorry that it’s going.



Reggie Alvarado

On Mar 25, 2024, at 7:55 PM, leobado1...@gmail.com wrote:



Well, if you want to throw some light on this, ask someone for 
assistance when you launch VDR, so that you can turn off voice over. 
Apparently, double tap on the learn more link makes the banner go 
away, so we’re deep in the woods here.


Cheers,

Leo Bado.

I have found both freedom of loneliness and the safety from being 
understood, for those who understand us enslave something in us.


Khalil Gibran.

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Richard Turner

*Sent:* Monday, March 25, 2024 5:41 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Making everyone pay for voice dream

I have not updated today.

But, if anyone wants to go back and look at what Winston Chen had said 
when he sold Voice Dream LLC., he made it clear that he would have had 
to begin charging a subscription to be able to maintain development 
and he had already started the Mac version as a subscription.


$59 a year seems perfectly reasonable to me if you want the app to 
continue.


You can always dump it for DAISY Easy Reader or Speech Central and 
deal with much harder interfaces and keep it free…


Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and 
less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your 
sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of 
your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio 
Description (1932-2009)


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Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

[Grant Hardy]

I would like to point out that if my understanding is correct, charging a
subscription for features you previously bought as a one-time purchase is
actually against Apple's developer guidelines. This is why, for example,
the Weather Gods app charges all new users a subscription for push
notifications, but previous users are allowed to have access to push alerts
without a subscription as previously agreed upon.

I am curious to see how this unfolds, because it's definitely something
that should be reported to Apple if they make our previous purchases null
and void. This isn't just idle complaining, this is actually against the
iOS developer guidelines—again, if my understanding is correct.

Voice Dream Reader has introduced a ton of data tracking as of late too,
just check App Privacy Reports to see the domains it's reaching out to. I
have loved Voice Dream Reader for over a decade, but I think long-term
another solution or app is going to be needed.

I don't think dismissing users' complaints here is really appropriate,
because the reality is that users agreed upon certain features and paid a
substantial fee to access them. It's unreasonable for that to be yanked
away with an app update which in some cases may happen automatically.
Grant Hardy

On Mar 25, 2024, at 9:14 PM, Marco Curralejo  wrote:



Lots of complaining on this I’ve got to say.



Simple solution, if you don’t want to pay, go and find some other app that
fits your needs.



If you do, continue to enjoy using an app that works mostly flawlessly and
certainly is, in my opinion, worth the $60 per year.



Cheers,



Marco



*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
Of *Joshua
Hendrickson
*Sent:* Monday, March 25, 2024 9:11 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream



I can’t believe all this negative talk about not wanting to pay $60 per
year for voice dream reader. For me, it is one of the best apps out there
for reading both ebooks and audio content. I’ll tell you all some of the
recent changes the new owners have done for us all. They have recently
allowed audio files in M4a format to  properly. When you want to change a
reading voice for a bookshare book, you now have a search option  quickly
find the voice you want. You also don’t have to pay for these voices
either. You did have to pay around $5 per voice before. So please stop
complaining and pay the $60 per year if you can. If people pay the money,
think of how much better the app will be. I’ve pcht a lot of time into
putting audio books and audio dramas on voice dream reader with iTunes to
not pay the $60 price. When we found out that voice dream reader might be
charging a subscripttion fee this shouldn’t be a surprise !o anyone. So
please if you can, pay the $60!!!

Sent from My totally awesome iPhone!!



On Mar 25, 2024, at 10:01 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Thanks for the clarification. I never get audiobooks from books share, so
book player I don’t care. Kind of sucks. I still think I should be able to
download stuff as long as I don’t try to upgrade. You can always do that
with everything else. If I have an apple device for instance, and it’s not
getting updates anymore I can still use it. This kind of stinks from that
aspect. They shouldn’t cut us off from being able to download anything from
Bookshare because we don’t want to pay. What if we don’t give a good bloody
damn about whatever they think they’re going to implement that we’re going
to pay for.  I’m not happy about that. But it’s the best thing out there so
far. God knows the garbage from speech central doesn’t get it done. It’s
too bad.

Sent from my iPhone



On Mar 25, 2024, at 7:53 PM, William James  wrote:

BookPlayer is an audio only player.  It plays zipped files, MP3,  M4A, and
M4B.  You can get it from the following link.





[image: image001.png]


BookPlayer 

Plays M4B/M4A/MP3 audiobooks




Sent from my iPad Air 5



On Mar 25, 2024, at 7:59 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I tend to agree with you, Richard. What is book player if you know? I had
never heard of bookplayer app. There is no way I’m going to speech Central.
It’s just too clunky. If he did what he’s been asked to do and implemented
an easy way to download bookshare books right through the app, Then I would
possibly reconsider. But I don’t give two figures for all that fancy Voice
stuff he’s doing. I’m perfectly happy with what I have now.

Mary



Sent from my iPhone



On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:41 PM, Richard Turner 
wrote:



I have not updated today.

But, if anyone wants to go back and look at what Winston Chen had said when
he sold Voice Dream LLC., he made it clear that he would have had to begin
charging a subscription to be able to maintain development and he had
already started the Mac version as a subscription.

$59 a year seems 

RE: Making everyone pay for voice dream

[Marco Curralejo]

There’s a reason why they’re free. I’ll leave it at that. 

 �

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 9:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Making everyone pay for voice dream

 �

I mentioned DAISY Easy Reader and Speech Central if you cannot afford Voice 
Dream Reader.

Perhaps you should reach out to supp...@voicedream.com 
  and ask about pricing in other countries.

Or, as you say, just use Easy Reader.

 �

 �

 �

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 �

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com

 �

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 9:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

 �

You guys are forgetting about the "Dolphin Easy Reader" app; which has a 
Bookshare interface. It's free, thus I plan to use it even more if Voice Dream 
ends up being subscriptiononly. Good luck!

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

 �

El 25 mar 2024, a la(s) 9:01 p.m., Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > escribió:

Thanks for the clarification. I never get audiobooks from books share, so book 
player I don’t care. Kind of sucks. I still think I should be able to download 
stuff as long as I don’t try to upgrade. You can always do that with everything 
else. If I have an apple device for instance, and it’s not getting updates 
anymore I can still use it. This kind of stinks from that aspect. They 
shouldn’t cut us off from being able to download anything from Bookshare 
because we don’t want to pay. What if we don’t give a good bloody damn about 
whatever they think they’re going to implement that we’re going to pay for.  
�I’m not happy about that. But it’s the best thing out there so far. God knows 
the garbage from speech central doesn’t get it done. It’s too bad. �

Sent from my iPhone

 �

On Mar 25, 2024, at 7:53 PM, William James mailto:wiljame...@gmail.com> > wrote:

BookPlayer is an audio only player.  �It plays zipped files, MP3,  �M4A, and 
M4B.  �You can get it from the following link.

 �




  

  BookPlayer

  Plays M4B/M4A/MP3 
audiobooks

 �

Sent from my iPad Air 5

 �

On Mar 25, 2024, at 7:59 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I tend to agree with you, Richard. What is book player if you know? I had 
never heard of bookplayer app. There is no way I’m going to speech Central. 
It’s just too clunky. If he did what he’s been asked to do and implemented an 
easy way to download bookshare books right through the app, Then I would 
possibly reconsider. But I don’t give two figures for all that fancy Voice 
stuff he’s doing. I’m perfectly happy with what I have now.

Mary

 �

Sent from my iPhone

 �

On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:41 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



I have not updated today.

But, if anyone wants to go back and look at what Winston Chen had said when he 
sold Voice Dream LLC., he made it clear that he would have had to begin 
charging a subscription to be able to maintain development and he had already 
started the Mac version as a subscription.

$59 a year seems perfectly reasonable to me if you want the app to continue.

You can always dump it for DAISY Easy Reader or Speech Central and deal with 
much harder interfaces and keep it free…

 �

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

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RE: Making everyone pay for voice dream

[Richard Turner]

I mentioned DAISY Easy Reader and Speech Central if you cannot afford Voice 
Dream Reader.

Perhaps you should reach out to supp...@voicedream.com 
  and ask about pricing in other countries.

Or, as you say, just use Easy Reader.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 9:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

 

You guys are forgetting about the "Dolphin Easy Reader" app; which has a 
Bookshare interface. It's free, thus I plan to use it even more if Voice Dream 
ends up being subscriptiononly. Good luck!

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel





El 25 mar 2024, a la(s) 9:01 p.m., Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > escribió:

Thanks for the clarification. I never get audiobooks from books share, so book 
player I don’t care. Kind of sucks. I still think I should be able to download 
stuff as long as I don’t try to upgrade. You can always do that with everything 
else. If I have an apple device for instance, and it’s not getting updates 
anymore I can still use it. This kind of stinks from that aspect. They 
shouldn’t cut us off from being able to download anything from Bookshare 
because we don’t want to pay. What if we don’t give a good bloody damn about 
whatever they think they’re going to implement that we’re going to pay for.  
I’m not happy about that. But it’s the best thing out there so far. God knows 
the garbage from speech central doesn’t get it done. It’s too bad. 

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 25, 2024, at 7:53 PM, William James mailto:wiljame...@gmail.com> > wrote:

BookPlayer is an audio only player.  It plays zipped files, MP3,  M4A, and 
M4B.  You can get it from the following link.

 






  

  BookPlayer

  Plays M4B/M4A/MP3 
audiobooks

 

Sent from my iPad Air 5





On Mar 25, 2024, at 7:59 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I tend to agree with you, Richard. What is book player if you know? I had 
never heard of bookplayer app. There is no way I’m going to speech Central. 
It’s just too clunky. If he did what he’s been asked to do and implemented an 
easy way to download bookshare books right through the app, Then I would 
possibly reconsider. But I don’t give two figures for all that fancy Voice 
stuff he’s doing. I’m perfectly happy with what I have now.

Mary

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:41 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



I have not updated today.

But, if anyone wants to go back and look at what Winston Chen had said when he 
sold Voice Dream LLC., he made it clear that he would have had to begin 
charging a subscription to be able to maintain development and he had already 
started the Mac version as a subscription.

$59 a year seems perfectly reasonable to me if you want the app to continue.

You can always dump it for DAISY Easy Reader or Speech Central and deal with 
much harder interfaces and keep it free…

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

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In wilthis house, that would be $120 a year.  Maybe we can pull it off.  Time will tell.  I do agree that it is worth $60, no doubt.Sent from my iPad Air 5On Mar 26, 2024, at 12:14 AM, Marco Curralejo  wrote:Lots of complaining on this I’ve got to say. Simple solution, if you don’t want to pay, go and find some other app that fits your needs. If you do, continue to enjoy using an app that works mostly flawlessly and certainly is, in my opinion, worth the $60 per year. Cheers, Marco From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua HendricksonSent: Monday, March 25, 2024 9:11 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream I can’t believe all this negative talk about not wanting to pay $60 per year for voice dream reader. For me, it is one of the best apps out there for reading both ebooks and audio content. I’ll tell you all some of the recent changes the new owners have done for us all. They have recently allowed audio files in M4a format to  properly. When you want to change a reading voice for a bookshare book, you now have a search option  quickly find the voice you want. You also don’t have to pay for these voices either. You did have to pay around $5 per voice before. So please stop complaining and pay the $60 per year if you can. If people pay the money, think of how much better the app will be. I’ve pcht a lot of time into putting audio books and audio dramas on voice dream reader with iTunes to not pay the $60 price. When we found out that voice dream reader might be charging a subscripttion fee this shouldn’t be a surprise !o anyone. So please if you can, pay the $60!!!Sent from My totally awesome iPhone!!On Mar 25, 2024, at 10:01 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:Thanks for the clarification. I never get audiobooks from books share, so book player I don’t care. Kind of sucks. I still think I should be able to download stuff as long as I don’t try to upgrade. You can always do that with everything else. If I have an apple device for instance, and it’s not getting updates anymore I can still use it. This kind of stinks from that aspect. They shouldn’t cut us off from being able to download anything from Bookshare because we don’t want to pay. What if we don’t give a good bloody damn about whatever they think they’re going to implement that we’re going to pay for.  I’m not happy about that. But it’s the best thing out there so far. God knows the garbage from speech central doesn’t get it done. It’s too bad. Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 25, 2024, at 7:53 PM, William James  wrote:BookPlayer is an audio only player.  It plays zipped files, MP3,  M4A, and M4B.  You can get it from the following link. BookPlayerPlays M4B/M4A/MP3 audiobooks Sent from my iPad Air 5On Mar 25, 2024, at 7:59 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:I tend to agree with you, Richard. What is book player if you know? I had never heard of bookplayer app. There is no way I’m going to speech Central. It’s just too clunky. If he did what he’s been asked to do and implemented an easy way to download bookshare books right through the app, Then I would possibly reconsider. But I don’t give two figures for all that fancy Voice stuff he’s doing. I’m perfectly happy with what I have now.Mary Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 25, 2024, at 4:41 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:I have not updated today.But, if anyone wants to go back and look at what Winston Chen had said when he sold Voice Dream LLC., he made it clear that he would have had to begin charging a subscription to be able to maintain development and he had already started the Mac version as a subscription.$59 a year seems perfectly reasonable to me if you want the app to continue.You can always dump it for DAISY Easy Reader or Speech Central and deal with much harder interfaces and keep it free… Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view 

RE: Making everyone pay for voice dream

[Marco Curralejo]

Lots of complaining on this I’ve got to say.

 �

Simple solution, if you don’t want to pay, go and find some other app that fits 
your needs.

 �

If you do, continue to enjoy using an app that works mostly flawlessly and 
certainly is, in my opinion, worth the $60 per year.

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Cheers,

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Marco

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 9:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

 �

I can’t believe all this negative talk about not wanting to pay $60 per year 
for voice dream reader. For me, it is one of the best apps out there for 
reading both ebooks and audio content. I’ll tell you all some of the recent 
changes the new owners have done for us all. They have recently allowed audio 
files in M4a format to  �properly. When you want to change a reading voice for 
a bookshare book, you now have a search option  �quickly find the voice you 
want. You also don’t have to pay for these voices either. You did have to pay 
around $5 per voice before. So please stop complaining and pay the $60 per year 
if you can. If people pay the money, think of how much better the app will be. 
I’ve pcht a lot of time into putting audio books and audio dramas on voice 
dream reader with iTunes to not pay the $60 price. When we found out that voice 
dream reader might be charging a subscripttion fee this shouldn’t be a surprise 
!o anyone. So please if you can, pay the $60!!!

Sent from My totally awesome iPhone!!





On Mar 25, 2024, at 10:01 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Thanks for the clarification. I never get audiobooks from books share, so book 
player I don’t care. Kind of sucks. I still think I should be able to download 
stuff as long as I don’t try to upgrade. You can always do that with everything 
else. If I have an apple device for instance, and it’s not getting updates 
anymore I can still use it. This kind of stinks from that aspect. They 
shouldn’t cut us off from being able to download anything from Bookshare 
because we don’t want to pay. What if we don’t give a good bloody damn about 
whatever they think they’re going to implement that we’re going to pay for.  
�I’m not happy about that. But it’s the best thing out there so far. God knows 
the garbage from speech central doesn’t get it done. It’s too bad. �

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 25, 2024, at 7:53 PM, William James mailto:wiljame...@gmail.com> > wrote:

BookPlayer is an audio only player.  �It plays zipped files, MP3,  �M4A, and 
M4B.  �You can get it from the following link.

 �




  

  BookPlayer

  Plays M4B/M4A/MP3 
audiobooks

 �

Sent from my iPad Air 5





On Mar 25, 2024, at 7:59 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I tend to agree with you, Richard. What is book player if you know? I had 
never heard of bookplayer app. There is no way I’m going to speech Central. 
It’s just too clunky. If he did what he’s been asked to do and implemented an 
easy way to download bookshare books right through the app, Then I would 
possibly reconsider. But I don’t give two figures for all that fancy Voice 
stuff he’s doing. I’m perfectly happy with what I have now.

Mary

 �

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:41 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



I have not updated today.

But, if anyone wants to go back and look at what Winston Chen had said when he 
sold Voice Dream LLC., he made it clear that he would have had to begin 
charging a subscription to be able to maintain development and he had already 
started the Mac version as a subscription.

$59 a year seems perfectly reasonable to me if you want the app to continue.

You can always dump it for DAISY Easy Reader or Speech Central and deal with 
much harder interfaces and keep it free…

 �

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

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Thanks for the clarification. I never get audiobooks from books share, so book player I don’t care. Kind of sucks. I still think I should be able to download stuff as long as I don’t try to upgrade. You can always do that with everything else. If I have an apple device for instance, and it’s not getting updates anymore I can still use it. This kind of stinks from that aspect. They shouldn’t cut us off from being able to download anything from Bookshare because we don’t want to pay. What if we don’t give a good bloody damn about whatever they think they’re going to implement that we’re going to pay for.  I’m not happy about that. But it’s the best thing out there so far. God knows the garbage from speech central doesn’t get it done. It’s too bad. Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 25, 2024, at 7:53 PM, William James  wrote:BookPlayer is an audio only player.  It plays zipped files, MP3,  M4A, and M4B.  You can get it from the following link.BookPlayerPlays M4B/M4A/MP3 audiobooksSent from my iPad Air 5On Mar 25, 2024, at 7:59 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:I tend to agree with you, Richard. What is book player if you know? I had never heard of bookplayer app. There is no way I’m going to speech Central. It’s just too clunky. If he did what he’s been asked to do and implemented an easy way to download bookshare books right through the app, Then I would possibly reconsider. But I don’t give two figures for all that fancy Voice stuff he’s doing. I’m perfectly happy with what I have now.MarySent from my iPhoneOn Mar 25, 2024, at 4:41 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:I have not updated today.But, if anyone wants to go back and look at what Winston Chen had said when he sold Voice Dream LLC., he made it clear that he would have had to begin charging a subscription to be able to maintain development and he had already started the Mac version as a subscription.$59 a year seems perfectly reasonable to me if you want the app to continue.You can always dump it for DAISY Easy Reader or Speech Central and deal with much harder interfaces and keep it free… Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com



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Believe me, I fully understand and don't blame the developers from implementing something we knew was coming.  Guess what?  I gotta eat too!Sent from my iPad Air 5On Mar 25, 2024, at 8:24 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:Developers have to eat too. They should get paid. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cristóbal MuñozSent: Monday, March 25, 2024 7:05 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Making everyone pay for voice dream So I opened up the app again and got the banner at the bottom of the screen. Not sure if I’ll sign onto the $60, but honestly, I more than got my money’s worth and then some for this app if this is the case. I believe BookPlayer also has an in-app payment option for cloud storage and syncing. For some folks, the 60 bucks for VDR might even be worth it as you can use just one app for both eBooks and audiobooks. Everyone knows their own budget though.Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary OttenSent: Monday, March 25, 2024 4:59 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream I tend to agree with you, Richard. What is book player if you know? I had never heard of bookplayer app. There is no way I’m going to speech Central. It’s just too clunky. If he did what he’s been asked to do and implemented an easy way to download bookshare books right through the app, Then I would possibly reconsider. But I don’t give two figures for all that fancy Voice stuff he’s doing. I’m perfectly happy with what I have now.Mary Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 25, 2024, at 4:41 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:I have not updated today.But, if anyone wants to go back and look at what Winston Chen had said when he sold Voice Dream LLC., he made it clear that he would have had to begin charging a subscription to be able to maintain development and he had already started the Mac version as a subscription.$59 a year seems perfectly reasonable to me if you want the app to continue.You can always dump it for DAISY Easy Reader or Speech Central and deal with much harder interfaces and keep it free… Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/008e01da7f0d%24e3f975d0%24abec6170%24%40comcast.net.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/64CDE085-7D79-41B2-B513-4EE91B1DF9A1%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails 

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Developers have to eat too. They should get paid.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 7:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Making everyone pay for voice dream

 

So I opened up the app again and got the banner at the bottom of the screen. 
Not sure if I’ll sign onto the $60, but honestly, I more than got my money’s 
worth and then some for this app if this is the case. 

I believe BookPlayer also has an in-app payment option for cloud storage and 
syncing. 

For some folks, the 60 bucks for VDR might even be worth it as you can use just 
one app for both eBooks and audiobooks. Everyone knows their own budget though.

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

 

I tend to agree with you, Richard. What is book player if you know? I had never 
heard of bookplayer app. There is no way I’m going to speech Central. It’s just 
too clunky. If he did what he’s been asked to do and implemented an easy way to 
download bookshare books right through the app, Then I would possibly 
reconsider. But I don’t give two figures for all that fancy Voice stuff he’s 
doing. I’m perfectly happy with what I have now.

Mary

 

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On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:41 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



I have not updated today.

But, if anyone wants to go back and look at what Winston Chen had said when he 
sold Voice Dream LLC., he made it clear that he would have had to begin 
charging a subscription to be able to maintain development and he had already 
started the Mac version as a subscription.

$59 a year seems perfectly reasonable to me if you want the app to continue.

You can always dump it for DAISY Easy Reader or Speech Central and deal with 
much harder interfaces and keep it free…

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

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RE: Making everyone pay for voice dream

[leobado1982]

Not only unexpected, but really odd, why some users get an e mail message while 
others are completely left in a limbo….  Suspicious to say the least anyway, 
thank you Reggie for the info.

 

Cheers,

Leo Bado.

 

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for those who understand us enslave something in us.

Khalil Gibran.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 5:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

 

The email said it starts on May 1. When I went to the link, it showed me that 
it was $59 a year. It had all kinds of things they had done and why they would 
change to everyone. I bought it I think for five dollars. I was one of the 
first people to buy it I think. It said that on May 1, you will no longer be 
able to download anything. I use it only for books share and I’m very sorry 
that it’s going.

 

 

Reggie Alvarado 


On Mar 25, 2024, at 7:55 PM, leobado1...@gmail.com wrote:



Well, if you want to throw some light on this, ask someone for assistance when 
you launch VDR, so that you can turn off voice over. Apparently, double tap on 
the learn more link makes the banner go away, so we’re deep in the woods here.

 

Cheers,

Leo Bado.

 

I have found both freedom of loneliness and the safety from being understood, 
for those who understand us enslave something in us.

Khalil Gibran.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 5:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Making everyone pay for voice dream

 

I have not updated today.

But, if anyone wants to go back and look at what Winston Chen had said when he 
sold Voice Dream LLC., he made it clear that he would have had to begin 
charging a subscription to be able to maintain development and he had already 
started the Mac version as a subscription.

$59 a year seems perfectly reasonable to me if you want the app to continue.

You can always dump it for DAISY Easy Reader or Speech Central and deal with 
much harder interfaces and keep it free…

 

Richard, USA

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RE: Making everyone pay for voice dream

['john riehl' via VIPhone]

Developers gotta eat too. If I get billed I’ll pay $59 a year gladly. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 7:59 PM
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Subject: Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

 

I tend to agree with you, Richard. What is book player if you know? I had never 
heard of bookplayer app. There is no way I’m going to speech Central. It’s just 
too clunky. If he did what he’s been asked to do and implemented an easy way to 
download bookshare books right through the app, Then I would possibly 
reconsider. But I don’t give two figures for all that fancy Voice stuff he’s 
doing. I’m perfectly happy with what I have now.

Mary

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:41 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



I have not updated today.

But, if anyone wants to go back and look at what Winston Chen had said when he 
sold Voice Dream LLC., he made it clear that he would have had to begin 
charging a subscription to be able to maintain development and he had already 
started the Mac version as a subscription.

$59 a year seems perfectly reasonable to me if you want the app to continue.

You can always dump it for DAISY Easy Reader or Speech Central and deal with 
much harder interfaces and keep it free…

 

Richard, USA

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disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
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RE: Making everyone pay for voice dream

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

So I opened up the app again and got the banner at the bottom of the screen. 
Not sure if I’ll sign onto the $60, but honestly, I more than got my money’s 
worth and then some for this app if this is the case. 
I believe BookPlayer also has an in-app payment option for cloud storage and 
syncing. 
For some folks, the 60 bucks for VDR might even be worth it as you can use just 
one app for both eBooks and audiobooks. Everyone knows their own budget though.
Cristóbal
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream
 
I tend to agree with you, Richard. What is book player if you know? I had never 
heard of bookplayer app. There is no way I’m going to speech Central. It’s just 
too clunky. If he did what he’s been asked to do and implemented an easy way to 
download bookshare books right through the app, Then I would possibly 
reconsider. But I don’t give two figures for all that fancy Voice stuff he’s 
doing. I’m perfectly happy with what I have now.
Mary
 
Sent from my iPhone



On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:41 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

I have not updated today.
But, if anyone wants to go back and look at what Winston Chen had said when he 
sold Voice Dream LLC., he made it clear that he would have had to begin 
charging a subscription to be able to maintain development and he had already 
started the Mac version as a subscription.
$59 a year seems perfectly reasonable to me if you want the app to continue.
You can always dump it for DAISY Easy Reader or Speech Central and deal with 
much harder interfaces and keep it free…
 
Richard, USA
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Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

[Mary Otten]

Wow! I certainly didn’t get an email like that. You would no longer be able to download anything? So you have the app on your machine and it becomes useless to download from a book share? OK. That kind of stinks like maybe they should let you keep your current app and it should still work, but no more upgrades? If they’re all proud of their great upgrades that are so useful, they should be doing things that people are willing to pay for. I don’t remember any recent upgrades that have been all that special. Bug fixes that are incomplete to say the least. My iPhone is once again not downloading stuff that comes to my iPad. So I don’t think these developers are in Winston‘s league. He was way better at fixing Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 25, 2024, at 4:59 PM, regina alvarado  wrote:The email said it starts on May 1. When I went to the link, it showed me that it was $59 a year. It had all kinds of things they had done and why they would change to everyone. I bought it I think for five dollars. I was one of the first people to buy it I think. It said that on May 1, you will no longer be able to download anything. I use it only for books share and I’m very sorry that it’s going.Reggie Alvarado On Mar 25, 2024, at 7:55 PM, leobado1...@gmail.com wrote:Well, if you want to throw some light on this, ask someone for assistance when you launch VDR, so that you can turn off voice over. Apparently, double tap on the learn more link makes the banner go away, so we’re deep in the woods here. Cheers,Leo Bado. I have found both freedom of loneliness and the safety from being understood, for those who understand us enslave something in us.Khalil Gibran. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Monday, March 25, 2024 5:41 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Making everyone pay for voice dream I have not updated today.But, if anyone wants to go back and look at what Winston Chen had said when he sold Voice Dream LLC., he made it clear that he would have had to begin charging a subscription to be able to maintain development and he had already started the Mac version as a subscription.$59 a year seems perfectly reasonable to me if you want the app to continue.You can always dump it for DAISY Easy Reader or Speech Central and deal with much harder interfaces and keep it free… Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/008e01da7f0d%24e3f975d0%24abec6170%24%40comcast.net.



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Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

[regina alvarado]

The email said it starts on May 1. When I went to the link, it showed me that it was $59 a year. It had all kinds of things they had done and why they would change to everyone. I bought it I think for five dollars. I was one of the first people to buy it I think. It said that on May 1, you will no longer be able to download anything. I use it only for books share and I’m very sorry that it’s going.Reggie Alvarado On Mar 25, 2024, at 7:55 PM, leobado1...@gmail.com wrote:Well, if you want to throw some light on this, ask someone for assistance when you launch VDR, so that you can turn off voice over. Apparently, double tap on the learn more link makes the banner go away, so we’re deep in the woods here. Cheers,Leo Bado. I have found both freedom of loneliness and the safety from being understood, for those who understand us enslave something in us.Khalil Gibran. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Monday, March 25, 2024 5:41 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Making everyone pay for voice dream I have not updated today.But, if anyone wants to go back and look at what Winston Chen had said when he sold Voice Dream LLC., he made it clear that he would have had to begin charging a subscription to be able to maintain development and he had already started the Mac version as a subscription.$59 a year seems perfectly reasonable to me if you want the app to continue.You can always dump it for DAISY Easy Reader or Speech Central and deal with much harder interfaces and keep it free… Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/008e01da7f0d%24e3f975d0%24abec6170%24%40comcast.net.



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Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

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I tend to agree with you, Richard. What is book player if you know? I had never heard of bookplayer app. There is no way I’m going to speech Central. It’s just too clunky. If he did what he’s been asked to do and implemented an easy way to download bookshare books right through the app, Then I would possibly reconsider. But I don’t give two figures for all that fancy Voice stuff he’s doing. I’m perfectly happy with what I have now.MarySent from my iPhoneOn Mar 25, 2024, at 4:41 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:I have not updated today.But, if anyone wants to go back and look at what Winston Chen had said when he sold Voice Dream LLC., he made it clear that he would have had to begin charging a subscription to be able to maintain development and he had already started the Mac version as a subscription.$59 a year seems perfectly reasonable to me if you want the app to continue.You can always dump it for DAISY Easy Reader or Speech Central and deal with much harder interfaces and keep it free… Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com



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RE: Making everyone pay for voice dream

[leobado1982]

Well, if you want to throw some light on this, ask someone for assistance when 
you launch VDR, so that you can turn off voice over. Apparently, double tap on 
the learn more link makes the banner go away, so we’re deep in the woods here.

 

Cheers,

Leo Bado.

 

I have found both freedom of loneliness and the safety from being understood, 
for those who understand us enslave something in us.

Khalil Gibran.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 5:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Making everyone pay for voice dream

 

I have not updated today.

But, if anyone wants to go back and look at what Winston Chen had said when he 
sold Voice Dream LLC., he made it clear that he would have had to begin 
charging a subscription to be able to maintain development and he had already 
started the Mac version as a subscription.

$59 a year seems perfectly reasonable to me if you want the app to continue.

You can always dump it for DAISY Easy Reader or Speech Central and deal with 
much harder interfaces and keep it free…

 

Richard, USA

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disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
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Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

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RE: Making everyone pay for voice dream

[Richard Turner]

I have not updated today.

But, if anyone wants to go back and look at what Winston Chen had said when he 
sold Voice Dream LLC., he made it clear that he would have had to begin 
charging a subscription to be able to maintain development and he had already 
started the Mac version as a subscription.

$59 a year seems perfectly reasonable to me if you want the app to continue.

You can always dump it for DAISY Easy Reader or Speech Central and deal with 
much harder interfaces and keep it free…

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

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Does anyone know how to stop Siri / Safari from opening a default app in iOS?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I've been fighting a terrible, terrible cold for the last week and, as a
result, have not been able to post some articles to the list.  I am just now
beginning to feel a tiny bit better and so wanted to use what little energy
I have to post a question to which I cannot find the answer:

Scenario:
1.
Ask Siri to perform a web search by saying something like, "Search the web
for 'What is Amazon Music Unlimited, single'."

2.
Siri will respond with something like, "OK, I found this on the web for
'What is Amazon Music Unlimited, single'.  Check it out."

3.
There will now be 3 items on the display.  If you select the first item,
which is usually the answer given by Amazon, instead of opening the answer
in Safari, the Amazon app will open, which has absolutely nothing to do with
your search query.

I find this maddening.  And now, even the Google app is doing the same
thing.  This is to say, instead of opening a web browser, it will launch the
Amazon app.

Does anyone know how to stop this behavior?

All replies greatly appreciated.

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Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

[Chris Chaffin]

The support email address did not change, the new owners bought the rights to the name Voice Dream.So the support email address is supp...@voicedream.comChris  On Mar 25, 2024, at 6:29 PM, Earle  wrote:How did you get the developers email address? When I look in the app I still see the old address.EarleSent from my iPhoneOn Mar 25, 2024, at 6:16 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:I am not sure this effects everybody.  Or, at least at this moment.  My voice Dream is still fully functional at this point.  I even took Voice Dream out of my app switcher and restarted it, and the banner never came up again.To hopefully get some information on what exactly the banner was about, I just sent the developers an email asking about it.  Whatever information I get, I will pass it along to the list.ChrisOn Mar 25, 2024, at 5:12 PM, regina alvarado  wrote:I actually got an email and it told me to learn more with a link and then went on to tell me all the wonderful reasons they made the decision and all they added which I didn’t figure I needed as I use it for BKS. Reggie Alvarado On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:46 PM, Dan  wrote:

  

  
  
I updated and when the notice came up in
the app I clicked on the learn more thing at the bottom of the
screen and the announcement went away and it did not take me
anywhere I could learn more, it just wen back to the list of
books I have.

  
Not impressed.

  
Dan Beaver
  
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 3/25/2024 4:30 PM, Peggy Kane wrote:


  
Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
  
  
On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:27 PM,
  leobado1...@gmail.com wrote:
  

  
  
Where did you receive this message?  I
updated VDR today, and a window popped up saying something
about a price change, but didn't get to read in more detail
because It got closed before I could do something.
  
  Cheers,
  Leo Bado.
  
  I have found both freedom of loneliness and the safety
from being understood, for those who understand us enslave
something in us.
  Khalil Gibran.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 On Behalf Of regina
alvarado
  Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 2:17 PM
  To: Viphone 
  Subject: Making everyone pay for voice dream
  
  Just received a message voice dream is going to cost 59
dollars a year now. A pet peeve of mine is everything
requires a subscription. I see nothing in there reasons for
this that affects me. So, nice I had it for so long. It was
a wonderful app, but I am done with it. As with MBraille I
was one of the first to buy it for I think 5 dollars. Makes
me want to cry to lose it, but much more important places to
put my money. On Social Security with a guide dog and so
guess it goes away. Still want to cry after all the books
from Bookshare it has read to me.  
  
  Reggie Alvarado 
  
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Re: Voice Dream Reader and change in the price?

[Mary Otten]

I saw that notice too, double tap, nothing.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 25, 2024, at 1:16 PM, leobado1...@gmail.com wrote:Hi everyone. I updated VDR few minutes ago, and when I launched the app, a banner or something of that kind came up saying something about price change plus learn more, so I tried to tap into learn more but the banner gone away. Does anyone know better? Cheers,Leo Bado. I have found both freedom of loneliness and the safety from being understood, for those who understand us enslave something in us.Khalil Gibran. 



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Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

[Earle]

How did you get the developers email address? When I look in the app I still see the old address.EarleSent from my iPhoneOn Mar 25, 2024, at 6:16 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:I am not sure this effects everybody.  Or, at least at this moment.  My voice Dream is still fully functional at this point.  I even took Voice Dream out of my app switcher and restarted it, and the banner never came up again.To hopefully get some information on what exactly the banner was about, I just sent the developers an email asking about it.  Whatever information I get, I will pass it along to the list.ChrisOn Mar 25, 2024, at 5:12 PM, regina alvarado  wrote:I actually got an email and it told me to learn more with a link and then went on to tell me all the wonderful reasons they made the decision and all they added which I didn’t figure I needed as I use it for BKS. Reggie Alvarado On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:46 PM, Dan  wrote:

  

  
  
I updated and when the notice came up in
the app I clicked on the learn more thing at the bottom of the
screen and the announcement went away and it did not take me
anywhere I could learn more, it just wen back to the list of
books I have.

  
Not impressed.

  
Dan Beaver
  
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 3/25/2024 4:30 PM, Peggy Kane wrote:


  
Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
  
  
On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:27 PM,
  leobado1...@gmail.com wrote:
  

  
  
Where did you receive this message?  I
updated VDR today, and a window popped up saying something
about a price change, but didn't get to read in more detail
because It got closed before I could do something.
  
  Cheers,
  Leo Bado.
  
  I have found both freedom of loneliness and the safety
from being understood, for those who understand us enslave
something in us.
  Khalil Gibran.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 On Behalf Of regina
alvarado
  Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 2:17 PM
  To: Viphone 
  Subject: Making everyone pay for voice dream
  
  Just received a message voice dream is going to cost 59
dollars a year now. A pet peeve of mine is everything
requires a subscription. I see nothing in there reasons for
this that affects me. So, nice I had it for so long. It was
a wonderful app, but I am done with it. As with MBraille I
was one of the first to buy it for I think 5 dollars. Makes
me want to cry to lose it, but much more important places to
put my money. On Social Security with a guide dog and so
guess it goes away. Still want to cry after all the books
from Bookshare it has read to me.  
  
  Reggie Alvarado 
  
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Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

[Chris Chaffin]

I am not sure this effects everybody.  Or, at least at this moment.  My voice Dream is still fully functional at this point.  I even took Voice Dream out of my app switcher and restarted it, and the banner never came up again.To hopefully get some information on what exactly the banner was about, I just sent the developers an email asking about it.  Whatever information I get, I will pass it along to the list.ChrisOn Mar 25, 2024, at 5:12 PM, regina alvarado  wrote:I actually got an email and it told me to learn more with a link and then went on to tell me all the wonderful reasons they made the decision and all they added which I didn’t figure I needed as I use it for BKS. Reggie Alvarado On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:46 PM, Dan  wrote:

  

  
  
I updated and when the notice came up in
the app I clicked on the learn more thing at the bottom of the
screen and the announcement went away and it did not take me
anywhere I could learn more, it just wen back to the list of
books I have.

  
Not impressed.

  
Dan Beaver
  
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 3/25/2024 4:30 PM, Peggy Kane wrote:


  
Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
  
  
On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:27 PM,
  leobado1...@gmail.com wrote:
  

  
  
Where did you receive this message?  I
updated VDR today, and a window popped up saying something
about a price change, but didn't get to read in more detail
because It got closed before I could do something.
  
  Cheers,
  Leo Bado.
  
  I have found both freedom of loneliness and the safety
from being understood, for those who understand us enslave
something in us.
  Khalil Gibran.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 On Behalf Of regina
alvarado
  Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 2:17 PM
  To: Viphone 
  Subject: Making everyone pay for voice dream
  
  Just received a message voice dream is going to cost 59
dollars a year now. A pet peeve of mine is everything
requires a subscription. I see nothing in there reasons for
this that affects me. So, nice I had it for so long. It was
a wonderful app, but I am done with it. As with MBraille I
was one of the first to buy it for I think 5 dollars. Makes
me want to cry to lose it, but much more important places to
put my money. On Social Security with a guide dog and so
guess it goes away. Still want to cry after all the books
from Bookshare it has read to me.  
  
  Reggie Alvarado 
  
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Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

[William James]

All I saw was a blurb about a price change.  I'll wait and see.  If I don't like it, BookPlayer, here I come!  I'll miss the syncing between my phone and iPad, but I don't get that with ARD now.  I'll adjust.Sent from my iPad Air 5On Mar 25, 2024, at 5:35 PM, Dan  wrote:

  

  
  
Well, for me I was a one time payment
person.  No subscription here.

  
dan Beaver
  
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 3/25/2024 5:14 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz
  wrote:


  
  
I don’t know if it’s been stated, but for
  those who received that message, were you one time purchasers
  or already on the subscription based model?  I got the VDR
  update too, but no such banner or at least not yet. I bought
  the app way back in 2011 or 2012 and have certainly gotten my
  money’s worth. 
There’s an alternative app called Bookplayer which is very
  accessible. 
You can always use Apple’s native book app
  for eBooks and Kindle even supports ePub files now.
 
 

  Cristóbal

 

  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
   On Behalf Of Dan
  Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 1:47 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream
  

 
I updated and when the notice came up in the app I
clicked on the learn more thing at the bottom of the screen
and the announcement went away and it did not take me
anywhere I could learn more, it just wen back to the list of
books I have.
 
Not impressed.
 
Dan Beaver
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA

  On 3/25/2024 4:30 PM, Peggy Kane wrote:


   
  

  Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️

  
  

  


  On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:27 PM, leobado1...@gmail.com
wrote:

  
  

  Where did you receive this message?
 I updated VDR today, and a window popped up saying
something about a price change, but didn't get to read
in more detail because It got closed before I could do
something.

Cheers,
Leo Bado.

I have found both freedom of loneliness and the safety
from being understood, for those who understand us
enslave something in us.
Khalil Gibran.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com

On Behalf Of regina alvarado
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 2:17 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Making everyone pay for voice dream

Just received a message voice dream is going to cost 59
dollars a year now. A pet peeve of mine is everything
requires a subscription. I see nothing in there reasons
for this that affects me. So, nice I had it for so long.
It was a wonderful app, but I am done with it. As with
MBraille I was one of the first to buy it for I think 5
dollars. Makes me want to cry to lose it, but much more
important places to put my money. On Social Security
with a guide dog and so guess it goes away. Still want
to cry after all the books from Bookshare it has read to
me.  

Reggie Alvarado 

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Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

[Dan]

  
  
Well, for me I was a one time payment
person.  No subscription here.

  
dan Beaver
  
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 3/25/2024 5:14 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz
  wrote:


  
  
I don’t know if it’s been stated, but for
  those who received that message, were you one time purchasers
  or already on the subscription based model?  I got the VDR
  update too, but no such banner or at least not yet. I bought
  the app way back in 2011 or 2012 and have certainly gotten my
  money’s worth. 
There’s an alternative app called Bookplayer which is very
  accessible. 
You can always use Apple’s native book app
  for eBooks and Kindle even supports ePub files now.
 
 

  Cristóbal

 

  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
   On Behalf Of Dan
  Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 1:47 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream
  

 
I updated and when the notice came up in the app I
clicked on the learn more thing at the bottom of the screen
and the announcement went away and it did not take me
anywhere I could learn more, it just wen back to the list of
books I have.
 
Not impressed.
 
Dan Beaver
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA

  On 3/25/2024 4:30 PM, Peggy Kane wrote:


   
  

  Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️

  
  

  


  On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:27 PM, leobado1...@gmail.com
wrote:

  
  

  Where did you receive this message?
 I updated VDR today, and a window popped up saying
something about a price change, but didn't get to read
in more detail because It got closed before I could do
something.

Cheers,
Leo Bado.

I have found both freedom of loneliness and the safety
from being understood, for those who understand us
enslave something in us.
Khalil Gibran.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com

On Behalf Of regina alvarado
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 2:17 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Making everyone pay for voice dream

Just received a message voice dream is going to cost 59
dollars a year now. A pet peeve of mine is everything
requires a subscription. I see nothing in there reasons
for this that affects me. So, nice I had it for so long.
It was a wonderful app, but I am done with it. As with
MBraille I was one of the first to buy it for I think 5
dollars. Makes me want to cry to lose it, but much more
important places to put my money. On Social Security
with a guide dog and so guess it goes away. Still want
to cry after all the books from Bookshare it has read to
me.  

Reggie Alvarado 

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RE: Making everyone pay for voice dream

[leobado1982]

I purchased VDR 10 years ago, an the banner was there in the lower side of the 
screen, when I tried to got into learn more, it just went away.

 

Cheers,

Leo Bado.

 

I have found both freedom of loneliness and the safety from being understood, 
for those who understand us enslave something in us.

Khalil Gibran.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Making everyone pay for voice dream

 

I don’t know if it’s been stated, but for those who received that message, were 
you one time purchasers or already on the subscription based model?  I got the 
VDR update too, but no such banner or at least not yet. I bought the app way 
back in 2011 or 2012 and have certainly gotten my money’s worth. 

There’s an alternative app called Bookplayer 
  which is very 
accessible. 

You can always use Apple’s native book app for eBooks and Kindle even supports 
ePub files now.

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 1:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

 

I updated and when the notice came up in the app I clicked on the learn more 
thing at the bottom of the screen and the announcement went away and it did not 
take me anywhere I could learn more, it just wen back to the list of books I 
have.

 

Not impressed.

 

Dan Beaver

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA

On 3/25/2024 4:30 PM, Peggy Kane wrote:

 

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️

 

On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:27 PM, leobado1...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

Where did you receive this message?  I updated VDR today, and a window popped 
up saying something about a price change, but didn't get to read in more detail 
because It got closed before I could do something.

Cheers,
Leo Bado.

I have found both freedom of loneliness and the safety from being understood, 
for those who understand us enslave something in us.
Khalil Gibran.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of 
regina alvarado
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 2:17 PM
To: Viphone   
Subject: Making everyone pay for voice dream

Just received a message voice dream is going to cost 59 dollars a year now. A 
pet peeve of mine is everything requires a subscription. I see nothing in there 
reasons for this that affects me. So, nice I had it for so long. It was a 
wonderful app, but I am done with it. As with MBraille I was one of the first 
to buy it for I think 5 dollars. Makes me want to cry to lose it, but much more 
important places to put my money. On Social Security with a guide dog and so 
guess it goes away. Still want to cry after all the books from Bookshare it has 
read to me.  

Reggie Alvarado 

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RE: Making everyone pay for voice dream

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

I don’t know if it’s been stated, but for those who received that message, were 
you one time purchasers or already on the subscription based model?  I got the 
VDR update too, but no such banner or at least not yet. I bought the app way 
back in 2011 or 2012 and have certainly gotten my money’s worth. 

There’s an alternative app called Bookplayer 
  which is very 
accessible. 

You can always use Apple’s native book app for eBooks and Kindle even supports 
ePub files now.

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 1:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

 

I updated and when the notice came up in the app I clicked on the learn more 
thing at the bottom of the screen and the announcement went away and it did not 
take me anywhere I could learn more, it just wen back to the list of books I 
have.

 

Not impressed.

 

Dan Beaver

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA

On 3/25/2024 4:30 PM, Peggy Kane wrote:

 

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️





On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:27 PM, leobado1...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

Where did you receive this message?  I updated VDR today, and a window popped 
up saying something about a price change, but didn't get to read in more detail 
because It got closed before I could do something.

Cheers,
Leo Bado.

I have found both freedom of loneliness and the safety from being understood, 
for those who understand us enslave something in us.
Khalil Gibran.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of 
regina alvarado
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 2:17 PM
To: Viphone   
Subject: Making everyone pay for voice dream

Just received a message voice dream is going to cost 59 dollars a year now. A 
pet peeve of mine is everything requires a subscription. I see nothing in there 
reasons for this that affects me. So, nice I had it for so long. It was a 
wonderful app, but I am done with it. As with MBraille I was one of the first 
to buy it for I think 5 dollars. Makes me want to cry to lose it, but much more 
important places to put my money. On Social Security with a guide dog and so 
guess it goes away. Still want to cry after all the books from Bookshare it has 
read to me.  

Reggie Alvarado 

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Hi,

I just updated the app, and never received a message at all from Voice Dream.

How is it possible for them to start charging for something? Some of us have 
been using for free actually not for free that we paid for already that is my 
question. Take care. 

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Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

[regina alvarado]

I actually got an email and it told me to learn more with a link and then went on to tell me all the wonderful reasons they made the decision and all they added which I didn’t figure I needed as I use it for BKS. Reggie Alvarado On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:46 PM, Dan  wrote:

  

  
  
I updated and when the notice came up in
the app I clicked on the learn more thing at the bottom of the
screen and the announcement went away and it did not take me
anywhere I could learn more, it just wen back to the list of
books I have.

  
Not impressed.

  
Dan Beaver
  
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 3/25/2024 4:30 PM, Peggy Kane wrote:


  
Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
  
  
On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:27 PM,
  leobado1...@gmail.com wrote:
  

  
  
Where did you receive this message?  I
updated VDR today, and a window popped up saying something
about a price change, but didn't get to read in more detail
because It got closed before I could do something.
  
  Cheers,
  Leo Bado.
  
  I have found both freedom of loneliness and the safety
from being understood, for those who understand us enslave
something in us.
  Khalil Gibran.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 On Behalf Of regina
alvarado
  Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 2:17 PM
  To: Viphone 
  Subject: Making everyone pay for voice dream
  
  Just received a message voice dream is going to cost 59
dollars a year now. A pet peeve of mine is everything
requires a subscription. I see nothing in there reasons for
this that affects me. So, nice I had it for so long. It was
a wonderful app, but I am done with it. As with MBraille I
was one of the first to buy it for I think 5 dollars. Makes
me want to cry to lose it, but much more important places to
put my money. On Social Security with a guide dog and so
guess it goes away. Still want to cry after all the books
from Bookshare it has read to me.  
  
  Reggie Alvarado 
  
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  Hi,
  I just updated the app, and never received a message at all
from Voice Dream.
  How is it possible for them to start charging for something?
Some of us have been using for free actually not for free that
we paid for already that is my 

Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

[Dan]

  
  
I updated and when the notice came up in
the app I clicked on the learn more thing at the bottom of the
screen and the announcement went away and it did not take me
anywhere I could learn more, it just wen back to the list of
books I have.

  
Not impressed.

  
Dan Beaver
  
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 3/25/2024 4:30 PM, Peggy Kane wrote:


  
Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
  
  
On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:27 PM,
  leobado1...@gmail.com wrote:
  

  
  
Where did you receive this message?  I
updated VDR today, and a window popped up saying something
about a price change, but didn't get to read in more detail
because It got closed before I could do something.
  
  Cheers,
  Leo Bado.
  
  I have found both freedom of loneliness and the safety
from being understood, for those who understand us enslave
something in us.
  Khalil Gibran.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 On Behalf Of regina
alvarado
  Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 2:17 PM
  To: Viphone 
  Subject: Making everyone pay for voice dream
  
  Just received a message voice dream is going to cost 59
dollars a year now. A pet peeve of mine is everything
requires a subscription. I see nothing in there reasons for
this that affects me. So, nice I had it for so long. It was
a wonderful app, but I am done with it. As with MBraille I
was one of the first to buy it for I think 5 dollars. Makes
me want to cry to lose it, but much more important places to
put my money. On Social Security with a guide dog and so
guess it goes away. Still want to cry after all the books
from Bookshare it has read to me.  
  
  Reggie Alvarado 
  
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  Hi,
  I just updated the app, and never received a message at all
from Voice Dream.
  How is it possible for them to start charging for something?
Some of us have been using for free actually not for free that
we paid for already that is my question. Take care. 
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Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

[Peggy Kane]

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️

> On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:27 PM, leobado1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Where did you receive this message?  I updated VDR today, and a window 
> popped up saying something about a price change, but didn't get to read in 
> more detail because It got closed before I could do something.
> 
> Cheers,
> Leo Bado.
> 
> I have found both freedom of loneliness and the safety from being understood, 
> for those who understand us enslave something in us.
> Khalil Gibran.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
> alvarado
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 2:17 PM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Making everyone pay for voice dream
> 
> Just received a message voice dream is going to cost 59 dollars a year now. A 
> pet peeve of mine is everything requires a subscription. I see nothing in 
> there reasons for this that affects me. So, nice I had it for so long. It was 
> a wonderful app, but I am done with it. As with MBraille I was one of the 
> first to buy it for I think 5 dollars. Makes me want to cry to lose it, but 
> much more important places to put my money. On Social Security with a guide 
> dog and so guess it goes away. Still want to cry after all the books from 
> Bookshare it has read to me.  
> 
> Reggie Alvarado
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Hi,
I just updated the app, and never received a message at all from Voice Dream.
How is it possible for them to start charging for something? Some of us have 
been using for free actually not for free that we paid for already that is my 
question. Take care. 

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RE: Making everyone pay for voice dream

[leobado1982]

Where did you receive this message?  I updated VDR today, and a window popped 
up saying something about a price change, but didn't get to read in more detail 
because It got closed before I could do something.

Cheers,
Leo Bado.

I have found both freedom of loneliness and the safety from being understood, 
for those who understand us enslave something in us.
Khalil Gibran.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 2:17 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Making everyone pay for voice dream

Just received a message voice dream is going to cost 59 dollars a year now. A 
pet peeve of mine is everything requires a subscription. I see nothing in there 
reasons for this that affects me. So, nice I had it for so long. It was a 
wonderful app, but I am done with it. As with MBraille I was one of the first 
to buy it for I think 5 dollars. Makes me want to cry to lose it, but much more 
important places to put my money. On Social Security with a guide dog and so 
guess it goes away. Still want to cry after all the books from Bookshare it has 
read to me.  

Reggie Alvarado 

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Making everyone pay for voice dream

[regina alvarado]

Just received a message voice dream is going to cost 59 dollars a year now. A 
pet peeve of mine is everything requires a subscription. I see nothing in there 
reasons for this that affects me. So, nice I had it for so long. It was a 
wonderful app, but I am done with it. As with MBraille I was one of the first 
to buy it for I think 5 dollars. Makes me want to cry to lose it, but much more 
important places to put my money. On Social Security with a guide dog and so 
guess it goes away. Still want to cry after all the books from Bookshare it has 
read to me.  

Reggie Alvarado 

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Voice Dream Reader and change in the price?

[leobado1982]

Hi everyone. I updated VDR few minutes ago, and when I launched the app, a
banner or something of that kind came up saying something about price change
plus learn more, so I tried to tap into learn more but the banner gone away.
Does anyone know better?

 

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Re: dropbox issue

[Vicki W.]

No, everything is set the way it was before and matches the settings on my 
phone which is working fine. My phone doesn't have the latest IOS update.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Lemly 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 10:29 AM
  Subject: Re: dropbox issue


  Hi Vicki, 


  You don't mention which Dropbox bottomline toolbar button has focus when 
unable to navigate by headings. It sounds as if the Files button might have 
focus and I don't believe that screen uses headings. When focus is on my Home 
bottomline toolbar button, I'm able to easily navigate among its headings using 
the rotor. 


  Alan Lemly 
  Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 25, 2024, at 6:02 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:


 
Hi,

After updating my mini IPad 5 to the latest IOS version, the headings in 
Dropbox are not showing up. I have the most recent version of Dropbox and it 
was working fine until I updated the IOS. 

When inside a dropbox folder, even though I've changed nothing as far as 
settings, I can no longer go from numbers to letters and go between letters 
using the headings option in the rrotor. Anyone else had this issue and can it 
be fixed? 

Dropbox with the same Dropbox version is working fine on my phone.

Thanks.

Vicki


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Re: dropbox issue

[Vicki W.]

Yes, that is correct. I have always been able to navigate within a folder by 
letters when using the headings option on the rotor. As of the last IOS update, 
I can't do that.


  - Original Message - 
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 9:06 AM
  Subject: Re: dropbox issue




  Just so I am understanding correctly, are you saying that normally you can 
navigate inside a Dropbox folder by heading for each letter of the alphabet? 


  The only headings I have within a folder is folders and files.  In order to 
go to a specific file, I have to just swipe until I get there.  This is on my 
iPhone.  I do not have an iPad mini.  And I tried every layout style choice.


  Chris




On Mar 25, 2024, at 7:02 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:


 
Hi,

After updating my mini IPad 5 to the latest IOS version, the headings in 
Dropbox are not showing up. I have the most recent version of Dropbox and it 
was working fine until I updated the IOS. 

When inside a dropbox folder, even though I've changed nothing as far as 
settings, I can no longer go from numbers to letters and go between letters 
using the headings option in the rrotor. Anyone else had this issue and can it 
be fixed? 

Dropbox with the same Dropbox version is working fine on my phone.

Thanks.

Vicki


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Re: dropbox issue

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Vicki, You don't mention which Dropbox bottomline toolbar button has focus when unable to navigate by headings. It sounds as if the Files button might have focus and I don't believe that screen uses headings. When focus is on my Home bottomline toolbar button, I'm able to easily navigate among its headings using the rotor. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 25, 2024, at 6:02 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:






Hi,
 
After updating my mini IPad 5 to the latest IOS 
version, the headings in Dropbox are not showing up. I have the most recent 
version of Dropbox and it was working fine until I updated the IOS. 

 
When inside a dropbox folder, even though I've 
changed nothing as far as settings, I can no longer go from numbers to letters 
and go between letters using the headings option in the rrotor. Anyone else had 
this issue and can it be fixed? 
 
Dropbox with the same Dropbox version is working 
fine on my phone.
 
Thanks.
 
Vicki
 



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Re: taking part in a group chat

[Vicki W.]

Well, I fixed it, sort of. I couldn't just ask SIRI to send a message to 
that group. I had to ask to send a text message to that group. Leaving out 
that one word "text" changed it all. Now it works on both my phone and my 
mini IPad.


Thanks to you and everyone who helped.

Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Chaffin" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: taking part in a group chat



I just tried it, and messages was not even in my app switcher.

I held down the side button and waited until after the Siri sound, then 
said, send message to family chat.

She asked me, what do you want to say?
I then told her to cancel it since I really did not want to send a message 
to the group.


The only thing is maybe Siri is not hearing the whole name of the group some 
how.  Are you holding down the side button, or saying hey S lady?
Does she repeat the name of the group back to you?  My group is made up of 
only four people counting myself, and the name of the group is not in my 
contacts, but everybody in the group are individually in my contacts.


Now I do not say, family group chat, or family chat group.  I just say, send 
message to family chat because that is the actual name.


I am also baffled why this is not working for you.  Now I did this running 
iOS 17.4, and 17.4.1.  If you are running an earlier iOS version, that could 
possibly be it.


Chris



On Mar 25, 2024, at 7:15 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:

I'm really confused why this isn't working for me. I've tried it on both 
my IPad and my phone and both of them reply with not having a phone number 
or address for the name of the group I'm giving SIRI.


When you do this, do you have a message open to your family chat or can it 
be done from the home screen without the chat being opened?


Thanks.

Vicki

- Original Message - From: "Chris Chaffin" 


To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2024 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: taking part in a group chat



I have a family chat with my family.  If I want to send a message to the 
chat, all I do is tell Siri, send a message to family Chat.  She comes 
back and ask me what I want to say.  Just like it does when I want to send 
someone a message.


Hope this helps.

Chris



On Mar 22, 2024, at 6:48 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:

Tried that and it didn't work.
- Original Message - From: "Carolyn Arnold" 
<2carolynarn...@gmail.com>

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2024 6:29 PM
Subject: RE: taking part in a group chat


Trying asking Siri to read messages, and when she reads from family chat, 
if she doesn't ask if you want to reply, get her to reply to famiy chat.


I was on a group chat liast qt my church, and there was a time, when all 
these names would read out on the thing, but it seems like it quit, and 
now I'm not going there, so am not getting them. My sister has a small 
chat group, and I ask Siri to read message, and when Siri asks me if I 
want to reply, I dictate a reply.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Vicki W.

Sent: Friday, March 22, 2024 5:19 PM
To: IPhone 
Subject: taking part in a group chat

Hi,

One of my family members has a group chat which she has added me to. it 
is the type of group chat which is created and then people are manually 
added so they can take part.


Here is an example to explain it better.

Mary creates a chat and calls it "Family Chat."

She then invites people through the add option to be part of that chat 
and anyone who joins can add someone as well.


There are 16 people in this chat, all of whom are in my contact list. 
When the messages come in, they show up as being from "Family Chat."


How can I reply to or create a message by using SIRI. Normally I would 
just say "Send a message to whoever and then I could speak the message, 
it would repeat it and give me the option to send.


Since it is coming up as "Family Chat," how can I either reply to or 
initiate an original message without saying all 16 names separately?


Hope that makes sense.

Vicki


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Re: dropbox issue

[Chris Chaffin]

Just so I am understanding correctly, are you saying that normally you can navigate inside a Dropbox folder by heading for each letter of the alphabet? The only headings I have within a folder is folders and files.  In order to go to a specific file, I have to just swipe until I get there.  This is on my iPhone.  I do not have an iPad mini.  And I tried every layout style choice.ChrisOn Mar 25, 2024, at 7:02 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:






Hi,
 
After updating my mini IPad 5 to the latest IOS 
version, the headings in Dropbox are not showing up. I have the most recent 
version of Dropbox and it was working fine until I updated the IOS. 

 
When inside a dropbox folder, even though I've 
changed nothing as far as settings, I can no longer go from numbers to letters 
and go between letters using the headings option in the rrotor. Anyone else had 
this issue and can it be fixed? 
 
Dropbox with the same Dropbox version is working 
fine on my phone.
 
Thanks.
 
Vicki
 



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Re: taking part in a group chat

[Chris Chaffin]

I just tried it, and messages was not even in my app switcher.

I held down the side button and waited until after the Siri sound, then said, 
send message to family chat.
She asked me, what do you want to say?
I then told her to cancel it since I really did not want to send a message to 
the group.

The only thing is maybe Siri is not hearing the whole name of the group some 
how.  Are you holding down the side button, or saying hey S lady?
Does she repeat the name of the group back to you?  My group is made up of only 
four people counting myself, and the name of the group is not in my contacts, 
but everybody in the group are individually in my contacts.

Now I do not say, family group chat, or family chat group.  I just say, send 
message to family chat because that is the actual name.

I am also baffled why this is not working for you.  Now I did this running iOS 
17.4, and 17.4.1.  If you are running an earlier iOS version, that could 
possibly be it.

Chris


> On Mar 25, 2024, at 7:15 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:
> 
> I'm really confused why this isn't working for me. I've tried it on both my 
> IPad and my phone and both of them reply with not having a phone number or 
> address for the name of the group I'm giving SIRI.
> 
> When you do this, do you have a message open to your family chat or can it be 
> done from the home screen without the chat being opened?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Vicki
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Chris Chaffin" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2024 5:54 PM
> Subject: Re: taking part in a group chat
> 
> 
> 
> I have a family chat with my family.  If I want to send a message to the 
> chat, all I do is tell Siri, send a message to family Chat.  She comes back 
> and ask me what I want to say.  Just like it does when I want to send someone 
> a message.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Mar 22, 2024, at 6:48 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
>> 
>> Tried that and it didn't work.
>> - Original Message - From: "Carolyn Arnold" 
>> <2carolynarn...@gmail.com>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2024 6:29 PM
>> Subject: RE: taking part in a group chat
>> 
>> 
>> Trying asking Siri to read messages, and when she reads from family chat, if 
>> she doesn't ask if you want to reply, get her to reply to famiy chat.
>> 
>> I was on a group chat liast qt my church, and there was a time, when all 
>> these names would read out on the thing, but it seems like it quit, and now 
>> I'm not going there, so am not getting them. My sister has a small chat 
>> group, and I ask Siri to read message, and when Siri asks me if I want to 
>> reply, I dictate a reply.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Vicki W.
>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2024 5:19 PM
>> To: IPhone 
>> Subject: taking part in a group chat
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> One of my family members has a group chat which she has added me to. it is 
>> the type of group chat which is created and then people are manually added 
>> so they can take part.
>> 
>> Here is an example to explain it better.
>> 
>> Mary creates a chat and calls it "Family Chat."
>> 
>> She then invites people through the add option to be part of that chat and 
>> anyone who joins can add someone as well.
>> 
>> There are 16 people in this chat, all of whom are in my contact list. When 
>> the messages come in, they show up as being from "Family Chat."
>> 
>> How can I reply to or create a message by using SIRI. Normally I would just 
>> say "Send a message to whoever and then I could speak the message, it would 
>> repeat it and give me the option to send.
>> 
>> Since it is coming up as "Family Chat," how can I either reply to or 
>> initiate an original message without saying all 16 names separately?
>> 
>> Hope that makes sense.
>> 
>> Vicki
>> 
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Re: taking part in a group chat

[Vicki W.]

I'm really confused why this isn't working for me. I've tried it on both my 
IPad and my phone and both of them reply with not having a phone number or 
address for the name of the group I'm giving SIRI.


When you do this, do you have a message open to your family chat or can it 
be done from the home screen without the chat being opened?


Thanks.

Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Chaffin" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2024 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: taking part in a group chat



I have a family chat with my family.  If I want to send a message to the 
chat, all I do is tell Siri, send a message to family Chat.  She comes back 
and ask me what I want to say.  Just like it does when I want to send 
someone a message.


Hope this helps.

Chris



On Mar 22, 2024, at 6:48 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:

Tried that and it didn't work.
- Original Message - From: "Carolyn Arnold" 
<2carolynarn...@gmail.com>

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2024 6:29 PM
Subject: RE: taking part in a group chat


Trying asking Siri to read messages, and when she reads from family chat, 
if she doesn't ask if you want to reply, get her to reply to famiy chat.


I was on a group chat liast qt my church, and there was a time, when all 
these names would read out on the thing, but it seems like it quit, and 
now I'm not going there, so am not getting them. My sister has a small 
chat group, and I ask Siri to read message, and when Siri asks me if I 
want to reply, I dictate a reply.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Vicki W.

Sent: Friday, March 22, 2024 5:19 PM
To: IPhone 
Subject: taking part in a group chat

Hi,

One of my family members has a group chat which she has added me to. it is 
the type of group chat which is created and then people are manually added 
so they can take part.


Here is an example to explain it better.

Mary creates a chat and calls it "Family Chat."

She then invites people through the add option to be part of that chat and 
anyone who joins can add someone as well.


There are 16 people in this chat, all of whom are in my contact list. When 
the messages come in, they show up as being from "Family Chat."


How can I reply to or create a message by using SIRI. Normally I would 
just say "Send a message to whoever and then I could speak the message, it 
would repeat it and give me the option to send.


Since it is coming up as "Family Chat," how can I either reply to or 
initiate an original message without saying all 16 names separately?


Hope that makes sense.

Vicki


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RE: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone

[CJ & AA MAY]

I re-started the phone and it return to portrait mode, thank goodness.

My iPhone has certainly been challenging me this past couple of days.

Alison

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Subject: Re: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone

 

I'm pretty sure you can find lock screen rotation in the control center, see if 
that works

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 25, 2024, at 5:49 AM, CJ & AA MAY mailto:chrisalis...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Thanks.I’m taking your advice. But I have a real problem as, having re-set my 
iPhone, it has gone into landscape mode by default and I can’t see how to get 
it back into portrait mode as the option isn’t on the rota.

Any ideas?

Alison

 

 

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Subject: Re: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone

 

I had the same problem with my focus, blue braille display. I had to turn it 
off and unplug it completely, and then tell my iPhone to forget the device. 
Then I turned Bluetooth completely off, rebooted the phone, turned Bluetooth 
back on, and it seemed to fix the problem. Don't know if that would work for 
you, but just thought I would let you know what happened to me. I have other 
displays and they don't seem to have that issue like the Bluetooth does, or at 
least I should say the issue that my Bluetooth had 

 

On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 7:43 PM CJ & AA MAY mailto:chrisalis...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I recently purchased a Focus Blue Notetaker which for the past three weeks has 
happily acted as a braille display for my computer and iPhone.

But I seem to have inadvertently upset the settings and at the moment, none of 
my Bluetooth headphones will work on the iPhone. I can see the devices listed 
in Bluetooth in settings but it tells me that none of them are available, only 
my Focus Blue Notetaker.

I have now deleted the Focus Blue in my iPhone’s settings and also in the Focus 
Blue’s Connectivity settings itself, but still, my Bluetooth devices refuse to 
work on my iPhone.

I am tempted to remove everything and then re-install them but does anyone have 
any other ideas?

Alison

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RE: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone

[CJ & AA MAY]

Thanks for your help, Chuck. I’ve done what you suggested and now have 
everything working as normal although had a few quirks along the way. I won’t 
be conneting my Focus Blue again to my iPhone.

Alison

 

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Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 1:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone

 

I had the same problem with my focus, blue braille display. I had to turn it 
off and unplug it completely, and then tell my iPhone to forget the device. 
Then I turned Bluetooth completely off, rebooted the phone, turned Bluetooth 
back on, and it seemed to fix the problem. Don't know if that would work for 
you, but just thought I would let you know what happened to me. I have other 
displays and they don't seem to have that issue like the Bluetooth does, or at 
least I should say the issue that my Bluetooth had 

 

On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 7:43 PM CJ & AA MAY mailto:chrisalis...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I recently purchased a Focus Blue Notetaker which for the past three weeks has 
happily acted as a braille display for my computer and iPhone.

But I seem to have inadvertently upset the settings and at the moment, none of 
my Bluetooth headphones will work on the iPhone. I can see the devices listed 
in Bluetooth in settings but it tells me that none of them are available, only 
my Focus Blue Notetaker.

I have now deleted the Focus Blue in my iPhone’s settings and also in the Focus 
Blue’s Connectivity settings itself, but still, my Bluetooth devices refuse to 
work on my iPhone.

I am tempted to remove everything and then re-install them but does anyone have 
any other ideas?

Alison

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dropbox issue

[Vicki W.]

Hi,

After updating my mini IPad 5 to the latest IOS version, the headings in 
Dropbox are not showing up. I have the most recent version of Dropbox and it 
was working fine until I updated the IOS. 

When inside a dropbox folder, even though I've changed nothing as far as 
settings, I can no longer go from numbers to letters and go between letters 
using the headings option in the rrotor. Anyone else had this issue and can it 
be fixed? 

Dropbox with the same Dropbox version is working fine on my phone.

Thanks.

Vicki

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Re: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone

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I'm pretty sure you can find lock screen rotation in the control center, see if that worksSent from my iPhoneOn Mar 25, 2024, at 5:49 AM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:Thanks.I’m taking your advice. But I have a real problem as, having re-set my iPhone, it has gone into landscape mode by default and I can’t see how to get it back into portrait mode as the option isn’t on the rota.Any ideas?Alison  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck AdkinsSent: Monday, March 25, 2024 1:08 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone I had the same problem with my focus, blue braille display. I had to turn it off and unplug it completely, and then tell my iPhone to forget the device. Then I turned Bluetooth completely off, rebooted the phone, turned Bluetooth back on, and it seemed to fix the problem. Don't know if that would work for you, but just thought I would let you know what happened to me. I have other displays and they don't seem to have that issue like the Bluetooth does, or at least I should say the issue that my Bluetooth had  On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 7:43 PM CJ & AA MAY  wrote:I recently purchased a Focus Blue Notetaker which for the past three weeks has happily acted as a braille display for my computer and iPhone.But I seem to have inadvertently upset the settings and at the moment, none of my Bluetooth headphones will work on the iPhone. I can see the devices listed in Bluetooth in settings but it tells me that none of them are available, only my Focus Blue Notetaker.I have now deleted the Focus Blue in my iPhone’s settings and also in the Focus Blue’s Connectivity settings itself, but still, my Bluetooth devices refuse to work on my iPhone.I am tempted to remove everything and then re-install them but does anyone have any other ideas?Alison-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/007501da7e45%241ad5bfb0%2450813f10%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAJhNHTp1NHkA-Jp-oyiVVqOdqi-kQ%2BiA0oTJu%2B6uiOaFE6wmpg%40mail.gmail.com.



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RE: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone

[CJ & AA MAY]

Thanks.I’m taking your advice. But I have a real problem as, having re-set my 
iPhone, it has gone into landscape mode by default and I can’t see how to get 
it back into portrait mode as the option isn’t on the rota.

Any ideas?

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck 
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Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 1:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone

 

I had the same problem with my focus, blue braille display. I had to turn it 
off and unplug it completely, and then tell my iPhone to forget the device. 
Then I turned Bluetooth completely off, rebooted the phone, turned Bluetooth 
back on, and it seemed to fix the problem. Don't know if that would work for 
you, but just thought I would let you know what happened to me. I have other 
displays and they don't seem to have that issue like the Bluetooth does, or at 
least I should say the issue that my Bluetooth had 

 

On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 7:43 PM CJ & AA MAY mailto:chrisalis...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I recently purchased a Focus Blue Notetaker which for the past three weeks has 
happily acted as a braille display for my computer and iPhone.

But I seem to have inadvertently upset the settings and at the moment, none of 
my Bluetooth headphones will work on the iPhone. I can see the devices listed 
in Bluetooth in settings but it tells me that none of them are available, only 
my Focus Blue Notetaker.

I have now deleted the Focus Blue in my iPhone’s settings and also in the Focus 
Blue’s Connectivity settings itself, but still, my Bluetooth devices refuse to 
work on my iPhone.

I am tempted to remove everything and then re-install them but does anyone have 
any other ideas?

Alison

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