Re: Kindle on ipad issue

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard
I live in South Africa, so it is very expensive to phone Amazon from this
side. The interesting thing is that I tried the book on my Samsung phone
and on a Chromebook and both have the same problem, so 3 different screen
readers react the same. I also read a page with Seeing AI on my cell phone
by pointing it to the iPad screen and Seeing AI had no problem to read
correctly. The other interesting point is that when I read character by
character I find that the letters c and e cause the problem.
 Regards
Fanus


On Sun, Mar 3, 2024 at 4:33 PM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> I am not finding an email for Amazon Accessibiblity. Perhaps they have a
> phone number. Remind me where you live?
>
>
> Richard, USA
>
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God
> stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to
> get it.”
>
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>
>
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 3, 2024, at 3:42 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
>
> 
> Hello Richard
> I usually use the Tessa South African English voice but I tried UK Daniel
> and US Samantha but the result is the same. I also changed to the font you
> suggested and I switched "detect language" on. The interesting fact is that
> my wife reads the text on the screen and she says everything looks fine.
> This is about the forth Kindle book where I encounter this. I have many
> other books which read correctly. I wonder if Kindle has an accessibility
> email address where I can report the issue?
> Regards
> Fanus
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2024 at 12:09 AM Richard Turner <
> richardr_tur...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I just tried a couple books from my Kindle library on my iPad Mini 6 and
>> had no trouble.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1.  which voice are you using?
>>
>> 2.  is that your default voice?
>>
>> 3.  If it is, do you have detect language on under settings, VoiceOver,
>> speech?
>>
>> 4.  Which font did you change to?
>>
>> I had some trouble reading with the default font, so I changed it to Open
>> Dyslexic and it reads fine.
>>
>> The font makes no difference to me since I am totally blind, but
>> apparently it made a difference to the app..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA
>>
>> "At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."
>>
>> -- Wolfgang Von Goethe
>>
>>
>>
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155)
>>
>> JAWS version 2024.2312.99
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
>> Of *Fanus Buys
>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 2, 2024 3:53 AM
>> *To:* viphone 
>> *Subject:* Kindle on ipad issue
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello list
>>
>> I purchased a kindle book and I made sure that the product details state
>> that text to speech and screen readers are enabled but the book does not
>> play correctly on my iPad. The moment I swipe down with two fingers for
>> continuous reading it sounds if there are no spaces between words and if
>> there are strange sounds, like a different language. I changed the font and
>> size of text but the problem continues. Has anyone encountered this or
>> should I just return the book. The problem is that it is not the first time
>> that I encounter this problem and it is just strange that the kindle app
>> can not read books meant for kindle.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Fanus
>>
>>
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Re: Kindle on ipad issue

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard
I usually use the Tessa South African English voice but I tried UK Daniel
and US Samantha but the result is the same. I also changed to the font you
suggested and I switched "detect language" on. The interesting fact is that
my wife reads the text on the screen and she says everything looks fine.
This is about the forth Kindle book where I encounter this. I have many
other books which read correctly. I wonder if Kindle has an accessibility
email address where I can report the issue?
Regards
Fanus


On Sun, Mar 3, 2024 at 12:09 AM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> I just tried a couple books from my Kindle library on my iPad Mini 6 and
> had no trouble.
>
>
>
> 1.  which voice are you using?
>
> 2.  is that your default voice?
>
> 3.  If it is, do you have detect language on under settings, VoiceOver,
> speech?
>
> 4.  Which font did you change to?
>
> I had some trouble reading with the default font, so I changed it to Open
> Dyslexic and it reads fine.
>
> The font makes no difference to me since I am totally blind, but
> apparently it made a difference to the app..
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA
>
> "At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."
>
> -- Wolfgang Von Goethe
>
>
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>
>
>
> Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155)
>
> JAWS version 2024.2312.99
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Fanus Buys
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 2, 2024 3:53 AM
> *To:* viphone 
> *Subject:* Kindle on ipad issue
>
>
>
> Hello list
>
> I purchased a kindle book and I made sure that the product details state
> that text to speech and screen readers are enabled but the book does not
> play correctly on my iPad. The moment I swipe down with two fingers for
> continuous reading it sounds if there are no spaces between words and if
> there are strange sounds, like a different language. I changed the font and
> size of text but the problem continues. Has anyone encountered this or
> should I just return the book. The problem is that it is not the first time
> that I encounter this problem and it is just strange that the kindle app
> can not read books meant for kindle.
>
> Regards
>
> Fanus
>
>
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Kindle on ipad issue

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
I purchased a kindle book and I made sure that the product details state
that text to speech and screen readers are enabled but the book does not
play correctly on my iPad. The moment I swipe down with two fingers for
continuous reading it sounds if there are no spaces between words and if
there are strange sounds, like a different language. I changed the font and
size of text but the problem continues. Has anyone encountered this or
should I just return the book. The problem is that it is not the first time
that I encounter this problem and it is just strange that the kindle app
can not read books meant for kindle.
Regards
Fanus

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delete multiple sms messages

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Hello list

I open the messages app then double tap on "edit" then double tap on 
"select messages" but then I can not figure out how to select the 
messages I want to delete. Please help?


Regards

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Re: apple watch 9 and IOS 17 on iPhone 11

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Sieghard
Thanks for your explanation.
Regards
Fanus


On 10/31/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> You can certainly continue to use iOS 17, if there will be major security
> issues Apple will release updates even to versions of iOS which are long
> gone, recently updates were released for both iOS 16 and even iOS 15 for
> some security issue.
> And if you buy an Apple Watch 9 you can certainly update your watch to the
> latest Watch OS even if your iPhone can't be updated to newer versions of
> iOS. Currently if  you buy an Apple Watch 9 you get Watch OS 10 with it and
> I assume you will get Watch OS updates for at least 5 or 6 years for that
> watch. Watch OS this year can be installed on Apple Watches as old as the
> series 4 which was released in 2018 along with the iPhone XS/XS Max and XR.
> Guess we have to see if Watch OS 11 in September 2024 still supports the
> Apple Watch 4 or if the Apple Watch 5 will then be the oldest supported
> model.
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Fanus
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 3:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: apple watch 9 and IOS 17 on iPhone 11
>
> Hello list
>
> I am considering to purchase an apple watch 9 but my concern is that my
> iPhone 11 will probably not be upgradable to the next IOS version next year.
> So my question is if I would be able to use apple watch 9 and IOS
> 17 on the iPhone for a few years to come. Due to our week exchange rate here
> in South Africa I doubt it if I will ever be able to upgrade my iPhone 11.
>
> Regards
>
> Fanus
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Re: IOS 17.03 and side button sound when talking to siri

[Fanus Buys]

Hello
Well, I do not feel a vibration on my iPhone 11 when I hold the side
button, so is there a setting to set that on?
Regards
Fanus


On 10/21/23, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> There is not as far as I know.  I just wait a second or to after I
> feel the vibration when I hold down the side button.  Good luck.
>
> On 10/21/23, Fanus  wrote:
>> Hello list
>>
>> In previous IOS versions I heard a sound when I held the side button, so
>> I knew siri was listening. In 17.03 the sound is gone so when  I speak
>> to soon or too late siri does not understand. Is there a setting to get
>> the sound back on?
>>
>> Re    gards
>>
>> Fanu        s
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Apple Watch 9 health results

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Hello list
Are the results from the heart rate, ECG and blood oxygen meters
accessible with VoiceOver?
Regards
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Apple watch 9

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Hello list
Is there an apple watch 9 in the pipeline? If so, is it worth while to
wait or should I go for the version 8? My only concern with the 8 is
that the battery may be a few months old.
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Difference between iPad 9 gen and ipad 10 gen

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Hello list
Is there a huge difference as far as specs are concerned? I can get a
9th gen at a very good price but I realize then there is 1 year less
of apple support, so is this so important?
Regards
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Re: Apple Watch 8

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
Sorry, I should have been more specific. What I actually mean is if
someone found a way to hold the watch over the phone to bypass the
manual setup process?
Regards
Fanus


On 12/27/22, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> Yes, you can choose to pair the watch manually upon setup. You will have to
> enter a code to begin pairing process.
>
> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
>
>> On Dec 27, 2022, at 2:51 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
>>
>> Hello list
>> I consider to purchase this beast. With the first gen watch I
>> struggled to do the setup because I could not find the way to hold the
>> watch over the specific place on my phone. The manual setup was quite
>> complicated. Has Apple made this process more streamline for blind
>> users?
>> Regards
>> Fanus
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Apple Watch 8

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
I consider to purchase this beast. With the first gen watch I
struggled to do the setup because I could not find the way to hold the
watch over the specific place on my phone. The manual setup was quite
complicated. Has Apple made this process more streamline for blind
users?
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problem when making a call with iPhone 11

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
When I make a call to a service where digits for options should appear
on the screen, for example when I call the telephone banking service
there are choices for 1 payments, 2 statements etc., the digits do not
appear on the screen. When I move my finger around I hear the usual
VoiceOver clicks and even if I take the phone away from my ear it
makes no difference. Is there a setting for this or is it an iPhone 11
bug?
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Model number of latest iPad

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
What is the latest iPad model i.e. iPad 11, iPad 12 or
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Upgrade from iPhone 11 to Iphone SE 2022

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
Is it worth while to do such an upgrade. The iPhone 14 is just too
expensive.
Regards
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Return a purchased app

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Hello list
I purchased an app on my iPhone but the app is inaccessible and in any
case not what I wanted. Is there a way to return the app and get a
refund?
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RE: Question Regarding Hot Spot

[Fanus Buys]

Hello List
I have a data sim in an iPhone and I can access the internet via that hotspot 
but if I stop downloading or using the internet for a while the hotspot phone 
closes the hotspot connection. Is there a way to keep it on for longer times?
Regards
Fanus


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From: Carla
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 4:40 PM
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Subject: RE: Question Regarding Hot Spot

OK I will tell him this.  So all he has to do is enable it?  I’ve never used 
mine and he has never used his either.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brandon 
A. Olivares
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 7:37 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Question Regarding Hot Spot

Pretty sure she mean that he has data for his phone but not an internet 
connection at home for the computer to use, thus the need for the hotspot.

To answer the question, yes you can use the phone hotspot. You can set it up as 
a wifi connection or as bluetooth. For me as long as the hotspot is enabled, my 
computer always prompts me if I want to connect with it if no other network is 
available.


On Oct 3, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Mickey Quenzer  wrote:

Hello:
I’m not exactly sure I might be misunderstanding something. If he wants to use 
his hotspot for his computer, he’s got to have Internet in order to use the 
hotspot. The hotspot is for sharing the Internet with your computer.
Can you clarify if I’m misunderstanding something?

On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 9:28 AM Carla  wrote:
Don Moore, who is on this list and was in the hurricane needs help with setting 
up hot spot with his iPhone.  He wants to know if you can use the phone hot 
spots to work on the computer and he needs to know how to set it up.  He does 
have his power back but no internet.
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Re: Startup and shutdown sound on iPhone 14

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Sieghard and list
on the Vision Australia Radio Talking Tech podcast for 27 September
2022 David Woodbridge said when talking about this feature "on both
your iPhone 14 and pro series phones". He said it is off by default.
So I hope someone with the iPhone 14 can check this.
Regards
Fanus


On 9/29/22, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> I don’t think I have any sounds for start-up and close-down. Is it something
> which needs to be enabled as I’d find it very useful.
>
> Alison
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>
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> Where did you hear the startup and shutdown sounds are also available on the
> regular iPhone 14?
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> I am a bit confused because at first I heard that these sounds and vibration
> would be available only on the pro and max but now it sounds as if the plain
> iPhone 14 has them too. Can someone please clarify?
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Startup and shutdown sound on iPhone 14

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Hello list
I am a bit confused because at first I heard that these sounds and vibration 
would be available only on the pro and max but now it sounds as if the plain 
iPhone 14 has them too. Can someone please clarify?
Regards
Fanus


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Find command in Voice Dream Writer

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Hello list
I am asking on behalf of a friend. He uses an iPad mini 5 with a Bluetooth 
keyboard. Usually he pressed the command key plus letter F to find stuff. This 
command does not work after he took his iPad for repairs. Does anyone know what 
went wrong?
Regards
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RE: My new iPhone

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Hello Gera
Thanks for the steps but your step 3 is a bit strange. You say 3.-within the 
Manual setup, you’ll have to enter a 6-digit pin the new phone displays, into 
the new one, and away it goes! I guess you meant the old phone displays the 
code which you have to type on the new phone?
Regards
Fanus


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From: Kevin Minor
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 5:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My new iPhone

Hi.

I tried the method mentioned, but there was a major problem. When I tried to 
enter the code on my old iPhone, there was no keypad on the screen to use, and 
I think my Bluetooth keyboard was already unpaired from it.

Just my experience. For me, all was well thanks to an iCloud backup. Even my 
old Apple Watch worked with my new phone.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 10:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My new iPhone

For me, having set up phone to phone 3 of these, you can do it independently:
1.-Power on the new phone and turn Voiceover on it of course.
2.-after selecting the country and language, they’ll be a Popup in which you 
can select Manusl etup,thus have your old phone ready for this; have them both 
plugged into power just in case.
3.-within the Manual setup, you’ll have to enter a 6-digit pin the new phone 
displays, into the new one, and away it goes!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 27 jul 2022, a la(s) 9:42 a.m., Karen Poulakos  escribió:

I did have sighted help with setting it up.
 
Karen P
 
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Fanus Buys
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 8:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Good Day    
I intend getting a SE 2022 but previously I struggled to do a transfer of apps 
and data from the old phone. I could not succeed in holding the new phone over 
the circle or whatever on the old phone’s screen. Did you manage this without 
sighted help and if so, what exactly did you do?
Regards
Fanus    
    
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From: Karen Poulakos
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: My new iPhone
 
Recently got a new iPhone SE2022.  Everything went fine with the wireless
set up.  everything, including my settings transferred correctly.  So I'm
really happy with it.
 
There is one strange thing happening that I can't figure out.  I have
haptics turned off, and the home button sensitivity set to 3.  Occasionally,
when I move my finger around the screen, or press on the Home button, I hear
a  light swish sound, similar to the one you hear when sending an email or
text.  It's so inconsistant, and infrequent, that I can't figure out what
I'm doing that is causing it.
 
Has anyone else experienced this?
 
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RE: My new iPhone

[Fanus Buys]

Good Day
I intend getting a SE 2022 but previously I struggled to do a transfer of apps 
and data from the old phone. I could not succeed in holding the new phone over 
the circle or whatever on the old phone’s screen. Did you manage this without 
sighted help and if so, what exactly did you do?
Regards
Fanus   

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From: Karen Poulakos
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: My new iPhone

Recently got a new iPhone SE2022.  Everything went fine with the wireless
set up.  everything, including my settings transferred correctly.  So I'm
really happy with it.

There is one strange thing happening that I can't figure out.  I have
haptics turned off, and the home button sensitivity set to 3.  Occasionally,
when I move my finger around the screen, or press on the Home button, I hear
a  light swish sound, similar to the one you hear when sending an email or
text.  It's so inconsistant, and infrequent, that I can't figure out what
I'm doing that is causing it.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Karen P  

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Alternative for turning screen curtain off

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
A friend does not succeed to turn screen curtain off by doing a three finger
tripple tap on her iPhone 7. I looked at voiceOver settings but I can not
find something there. Turning the phone off and on again does not help. Is
there an alternative?
Regards
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RE: Strange iPhone 11 issue or am I just ignorant

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard
Thanks, you are spot on, as always.
Regards
Fanus


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Subject: RE: Strange iPhone 11 issue or am I just ignorant

Go to Settings, Accessibility, Spoken Content, Typing Feedback and make sure 
everything in there is off.



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Hello list
I want to let a sighted person use my phone. I press the side button 3 times 
and hear "voiceOver off" but when she enters digits a different female voice 
announces the digits. Is there a setting to turn this off?
Regards
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Strange iPhone 11 issue or am I just ignorant

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
I want to let a sighted person use my phone. I press the side button 3 times
and hear "voiceOver off" but when she enters digits a different female voice
announces the digits. Is there a setting to turn this off?
Regards
Fanus


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RE: Question regarding bone conduction headsets

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard

Thanks, it still did not work by clicking on the link but after pasting into my 
browser it opened the page.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2022 3:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question regarding bone conduction headsets

 

try this,

https://www.turner42.com/DEMOS.html <http://www.turner42.com/DEMOS.html> 

 

 

Richard

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can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and faster 
and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice 
does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late."

 

Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
Paul)

 

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On Mar 13, 2022, at 3:00 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Richard

I would very much like to listen to your demo but when I press enter on the 
link I get the following: "Document error, Page not found, can not open url". I 
tried the alternative to copy the link and then open it from Google Chrome but 
the result is the same. Do you perhaps have a suggestion what may cause this 
and another option to get hold of the demo?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 7:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question regarding bone conduction headsets

 

I did a detailed review and demonstration of the Aftershokz OpenComm headset 
which I highly recommend.

It is the third heading on the page at the following link:

 

 

 

 

http://www.turner42.com/DEMOS.html

 

 

Richard

"When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing 
can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and faster 
and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice 
does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late."

 

Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
Paul)

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 






On Mar 11, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Beth G  wrote:

Hello all,

Sadly, it is time for me to buy my third pair of bone conduction headset. I’ve 
had aftershocks first the titanium treks, and then the Aeropex. I like them, 
and maybe roughly one year to 18 months is all the life I should expect given 
how much I use them. However, I’m having a hard time justifying the cost for a 
third pair. Should I go ahead and get a third pair, or are there other options 
worth considering?

Thank you,

Beth

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RE: Question regarding bone conduction headsets

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard

I would very much like to listen to your demo but when I press enter on the 
link I get the following: "Document error, Page not found, can not open url". I 
tried the alternative to copy the link and then open it from Google Chrome but 
the result is the same. Do you perhaps have a suggestion what may cause this 
and another option to get hold of the demo?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 7:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question regarding bone conduction headsets

 

I did a detailed review and demonstration of the Aftershokz OpenComm headset 
which I highly recommend.

It is the third heading on the page at the following link:

 

 

 

 

http://www.turner42.com/DEMOS.html

 

 

Richard

"When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing 
can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and faster 
and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice 
does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late."

 

Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
Paul)

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 





On Mar 11, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Beth G  wrote:

Hello all,

Sadly, it is time for me to buy my third pair of bone conduction headset. I’ve 
had aftershocks first the titanium treks, and then the Aeropex. I like them, 
and maybe roughly one year to 18 months is all the life I should expect given 
how much I use them. However, I’m having a hard time justifying the cost for a 
third pair. Should I go ahead and get a third pair, or are there other options 
worth considering?

Thank you,

Beth

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RE: Live Text

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Alan
Thanks for the info. I am subscribed to AppleVis but I missed that one somehow. 
Maybe I thought it would only work on iPhone 13.
Regards
Fanus


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Fanus and Penny,

Below is a link to an Apple Support article discussing Live text from a sighted 
users perspective:

https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-live-text-iphcf0b71b0e/ios

Thomas Donville of AppleVis also did a nice podcast on Live text dated 9/15/21 
about the time iOS 15 was released. His podcast is done from an accessibility 
perspective. I'd highly recommend you subscribe to the AppleVis podcast using 
your podcast app of choice.

Alan Lemly

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Reeder
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Subject: Re: Live Text

I am also eager to learn more about this application. Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 30, 2021, at 7:30 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
> 
> Hello list
> I want to test this feature but when I open the camera app I do not 
> find anything about Live Text. I have an iPhone 11 with IOS 15.1. Can 
> someone please explain?
> Regards
> Fanus
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Live Text

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Hello list
I want to test this feature but when I open the camera app I do not find
anything about Live Text. I have an iPhone 11 with IOS 15.1. Can someone
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Regards
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RE: Double tap issue

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Hello Richard
Thanks, it is very valid. I think you are correct because I do better placing 
the phone on a hard surface. I also think that maybe I am lifting my finger too 
high and as you say, it is at an angle when I bring it down. 
Thanks for the suggestions.
Fanus



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Subject: RE: Double tap issue

If you hear Edit Mode, it is because you accidently swiped upward at an angle 
instead of doing a straight on double tap.  I have had that happen, and I have 
very good motor skills.  I think iOS 15 is more responsive and the slightest 
touch is recognized.  
I also think that when you end up on another app, it is because focus somehow 
moved to that app; maybe a very slight brush of the screen with another finger 
that you were not conscious of having gotten so close to the screen.

I recommend trying to either flick to the app and then weight a couple of 
seconds to make sure the app you want is the last thing VoiceOver said, then do 
a double tap with one finger and make sure you are hitting straight down on the 
screen.  Havin the phone laying flat on a table helps to insure you are not 
going to hit it at an angle.

Or, use the other method of placing your finger on the app you want, do not 
move that finger, leave it resting lightly on that app and while that finger is 
touching the app; just touch the screen with another finger.  That is the 
alternative method to a double tap.

HTH,



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Buys
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2021 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Double tap issue

Hello list
I thought the below problem has to do with my lack of proper motoric functions 
but now a friend who does not have a neurological problem encounters the same 
issue. For clarity I shall explain: many times when I swipe to an app, for 
example messages, then when I double tap to activate it I hear "edit" or even 
the name of another app. So it seems that somehow my finger moves between the 
two taps. As I said, my friend complains about the same issue. I have an iPhone 
11 and she has an iPhone 7. Has anyone experienced this and can anyone come up 
with a solution?
Regards
Fanus


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Double tap issue

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
I thought the below problem has to do with my lack of proper motoric
functions but now a friend who does not have a neurological problem
encounters the same issue. For clarity I shall explain: many times when I
swipe to an app, for example messages, then when I double tap to activate it
I hear "edit" or even the name of another app. So it seems that somehow my
finger moves between the two taps. As I said, my friend complains about the
same issue. I have an iPhone 11 and she has an iPhone 7. Has anyone
experienced this and can anyone come up with a solution?
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home screen on iPhone 11

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
How does a sighted person navigate to the home screen when VoiceOver is
switched off. I want my sighted wife to help me with an inaccessible app but
she can not figure out how to get back to the main screen from within an
app. Also, with VoiceOver on I swipe up slowly from the bottom to get to the
home screen after waking the iPhone but what must a sighted person do?
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RE: Spatial audio?

[Fanus Buys]

Thank you very much.

 

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 5:41 PM
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Subject: RE: Spatial audio?

 

IF you have an Apple Music subscription, if you go to search, there is a button 
for Spatial audio and all things in there have it.

Some are Fearless, Taylor’s version by Taylor Swift

All Things Must Pass, 50th Anniversary Edition by George Harrison

A bunch of Billie Eilish songs.

 

HTH,

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
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Subject: RE: Spatial audio?

 

I use Beats Flex headphones.

 

 

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It is more whether your headphone support it. 

What headphones do you have?

 

 

Richard

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On Aug 30, 2021, at 1:57 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Richard

Can you name a song which supports spacial audio. I would like to hear what it 
sounds like.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Subject: Re: Spatial audio?

 

yes, if you have headphones that support it I think. 

 

I have the Airpods Max with my SE 2020 and it works great.

 

 

Richard

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Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

website:  www.turner42.com

 

 

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Hi all, so I know that you can get spatial audio on an iPhone 11 and up but 
can you get it with the iPhone SE220?
Thanks 

Lelia 

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RE: Spatial audio?

[Fanus Buys]

I use Beats Flex headphones.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 12:23 PM
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Subject: Re: Spatial audio?

 

It is more whether your headphone support it. 

What headphones do you have?

 

 

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On Aug 30, 2021, at 1:57 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Richard

Can you name a song which supports spacial audio. I would like to hear what it 
sounds like.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

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yes, if you have headphones that support it I think. 

 

I have the Airpods Max with my SE 2020 and it works great.

 

 

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Hi all, so I know that you can get spatial audio on an iPhone 11 and up but 
can you get it with the iPhone SE220?
Thanks 

Lelia 

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RE: Spatial audio?

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard

Can you name a song which supports spacial audio. I would like to hear what it 
sounds like.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

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yes, if you have headphones that support it I think. 

 

I have the Airpods Max with my SE 2020 and it works great.

 

 

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Whatsapp notifications

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
I hope I am just stupid and there is a way out. When I get a sms message I
can just wake my iPhone and then hear the contents without having to unlock
the phone. When I receive a Whatsapp message I just hear the word
"notification", then I have to unlock my phone, navigate to the page where
the whatsapp is, swipe to it, open it and swipe to the message. Is there a
way to let whatsapp behave similar to sms messages. I can understand it
would be different for whatsapp audio messages but for text messages it is
highly irritating to go through all the steps mentioned above.
Regards
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RE: adapter for USB keyboard and iPhone

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard

Thanks much but with my sensory problem I tried many BT keyboards and as long 
as the keys are on the same level they are out for me, so I shall enjoy using 
my pc keyboard with dongle.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for USB keyboard and iPhone

 

I have the Logitech K860 which has the dongle and the dongle does work with the 
adapter; but that keyboard also has two other bluetooth channels so I can just 
use it as a bluetooth keyboard with the iPhone. 

The number pad is not used with the iPhone, so it makes for a rather bulky 
keyboard.

There are lots and lots of good bluetooth keyboards that are not so large 
because they do not have the number pad.

 

Richard 

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On Jun 29, 2021, at 4:48 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello again Richard

Sorry, I forgot to ask: I have A wireless standard keyboard with a dongle which 
plugs into the p c or laptop. Do you think it will work on your adapter cable?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

 

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Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 8:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: adapter for USB keyboard and iPhone

 

No, your wireless keyboard needs no wires.

This is a wired adapter.

 

I’m not sure why a wireless keyboard would need anything other than the iPhone.

 

 

 

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Oh, I saw that, but that would be the same thing I'd use to hook up my wireless 
keyboard?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for USB keyboard and iPhone

 

I have the lightning to USB camera adapter from Apple.  I am writing this on a 
generic USB QWERTY keyboard with no power connected. 

So,I know it can work.

I'll try and find the link to the exact adapter but I'm pretty sure it is just 
called Lightning to USB 3 Camera adapter.

It has a standard female USB A host port, a lightning port for power if you 
need it and a short cable that plugs into the lightning port on the iPhone.

Î

 

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On Jun 28, 2021, at 10:39 AM, deidreandlou...@gmail.com wrote:

Rob,
   I heard that there would be some added battery drain. I'll try it out with 
my wireless keyboard, but all the same the adapter wil have to plug into the 
phone. I do not have one in my possession yet because I did not find what 
sounded like the right product when I did a search.

Deidre

-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for USB keyboard and iPhone
Think it would help if this keyboard was battery/self-powered.  The phone will 
nottt support a full keyboard running off it.
- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:05 PM
Subject: adapter for USB keyboard and iPhone

Hello
I just heard about an adapter that allows you to use your USB keyboard to
write on the iPhone. The little nub for a wireless keyboard would plug into
the adapter and the other end would plug in where the charger plugs in.
Would this work on an SE2020? I'd prefer using my regular keyboard to using
the bluetooth keyboard.

  Deidre

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RE: adapter for USB keyboard and iPhone

[Fanus Buys]

Hello again Richard

Sorry, I forgot to ask: I have A wireless standard keyboard with a dongle which 
plugs into the p c or laptop. Do you think it will work on your adapter cable?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 8:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: adapter for USB keyboard and iPhone

 

No, your wireless keyboard needs no wires.

This is a wired adapter.

 

I’m not sure why a wireless keyboard would need anything other than the iPhone.

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site:   www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: adapter for USB keyboard and iPhone

 

Oh, I saw that, but that would be the same thing I'd use to hook up my wireless 
keyboard?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for USB keyboard and iPhone

 

I have the lightning to USB camera adapter from Apple.  I am writing this on a 
generic USB QWERTY keyboard with no power connected. 

So,I know it can work.

I'll try and find the link to the exact adapter but I'm pretty sure it is just 
called Lightning to USB 3 Camera adapter.

It has a standard female USB A host port, a lightning port for power if you 
need it and a short cable that plugs into the lightning port on the iPhone.

Î

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

www.turner42.com 

 

 

 

On Jun 28, 2021, at 10:39 AM, deidreandlou...@gmail.com wrote:

Rob,
   I heard that there would be some added battery drain. I'll try it out with 
my wireless keyboard, but all the same the adapter wil have to plug into the 
phone. I do not have one in my possession yet because I did not find what 
sounded like the right product when I did a search.

Deidre

-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for USB keyboard and iPhone
Think it would help if this keyboard was battery/self-powered.  The phone will 
nottt support a full keyboard running off it.
- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:05 PM
Subject: adapter for USB keyboard and iPhone

Hello
I just heard about an adapter that allows you to use your USB keyboard to
write on the iPhone. The little nub for a wireless keyboard would plug into
the adapter and the other end would plug in where the charger plugs in.
Would this work on an SE2020? I'd prefer using my regular keyboard to using
the bluetooth keyboard.

  Deidre

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RE: adapter for USB keyboard and iPhone

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard

Is the keyboarc that you use the standard large USB keyboard just like that for 
a pc. This is very important for me because I have a sensory problem and I can 
not feel keys on keyboards which have the  keys on the same level. As you know 
the keys of the standard pc keyboard have, what I call "steps" between the rows 
so that helps me to orient my hands. It would be a dream come true if I can use 
my USB pc keyboard with your adapter.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 8:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for USB keyboard and iPhone

 

I have the lightning to USB camera adapter from Apple.  I am writing this on a 
generic USB QWERTY keyboard with no power connected. 

So,I know it can work.

I'll try and find the link to the exact adapter but I'm pretty sure it is just 
called Lightning to USB 3 Camera adapter.

It has a standard female USB A host port, a lightning port for power if you 
need it and a short cable that plugs into the lightning port on the iPhone.

Î

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

www.turner42.com

 





On Jun 28, 2021, at 10:39 AM, deidreandlou...@gmail.com wrote:

Rob,
   I heard that there would be some added battery drain. I'll try it out with 
my wireless keyboard, but all the same the adapter wil have to plug into the 
phone. I do not have one in my possession yet because I did not find what 
sounded like the right product when I did a search.

Deidre

-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for USB keyboard and iPhone
Think it would help if this keyboard was battery/self-powered.  The phone will 
nottt support a full keyboard running off it.
- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:05 PM
Subject: adapter for USB keyboard and iPhone

Hello
I just heard about an adapter that allows you to use your USB keyboard to
write on the iPhone. The little nub for a wireless keyboard would plug into
the adapter and the other end would plug in where the charger plugs in.
Would this work on an SE2020? I'd prefer using my regular keyboard to using
the bluetooth keyboard.

  Deidre

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RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Fanus Buys]

Ok, I suppose I must take the blame, so sorry.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 2:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

And clearly, this list is essentially not moderated because this whole side 
tracking of the thread should have been stopped a long time ago.

I’m not a moderator, or several people would be off this list.

 

IN fact, this list is getting to the point that I am more seriously considering 
unsubscribing.

 

 

Richard

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Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 5:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Except that you have no authority.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On 23 Jun 2021, at 00:58, Les Kriegler  wrote:

 No problem. I do it in my spare time when he got angry enough.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:

 

Sorry, if I’d known you were a moderator, I wouldn’t have sent it.

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Les 
Kriegler 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:46:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here 

 

OK, what on earth is this have to do with Apple Music? I have my messages 
threaded and every time you submit something like this, I have to scroll and 
find the thread delete the message and close it. So please stick to the topic.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:

 

It hurts me to say so but one of the sexiest women I’ve ever met was a a 
sighted Kiwi. She’s married to someone else now, which proves there’s no 
justice!

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon A 
Fogarty 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:29:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here 

 

Yeah they’re close, but some times to close,

 

One of our prime ministers back in the 80s 

Said that everytime a kiwi goes to Australia 

They raise the IQ of both countrys

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:23 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
welcome to stay where they are


  _  


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon A 
Fogarty 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here 

 

Hell no alex,

 

They are keeping poisonis things over there,

 

We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?


  _  


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon A 
Fogarty 
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here 

 

So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Simon

Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?

 

Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.

 

As for stock sitting on shelves,

 

That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do 

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.

 

Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.

 

I’d start with www.apple.com 
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RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Simon

Unfortunately not. The nearest border from me is that of Namibia which is about 
800 km and I suppose the same would be applicable there.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Simon

Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?

 

Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.

 

As for stock sitting on shelves,

 

That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do 

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.

 

Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.

 

I’d start with www.apple.com

And see what happens froom there.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Simon

That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.

 

If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

 

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

 

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in Dolby Atmos

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Sieghard

Thanks a lot for this. People usually do not believe me about the bad situation 
we experience here. Although we pay more for apple phones the cell phone 
companies do import batteries for the phones but as stated before I can not 
replace my iPod Touch battery and also not my apple watch battery.

Regards

Fanus

 

  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 4:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Apple may have websites for a lot of countries, but while there is an Apple.za 
site which is for South Africa, you can't buy anything there. I fyou select the 
"Buy" option you are redirected to a dealer locator and if you Google "Buying 
Apple products in South Africa", you find a website where the following is 
sstated:

 

Please be advised that ZA Store is operated independently by ZA Online Store 
Pty (Ltd) as authorised by Apple South Africa.

Note: Any purchases of Apple products over the Internet from the ZA Store will 
be subject to terms and conditions as set by the operating body, ZA Online 
Store Pty (Ltd).

Apple Inc. will not be held liable for any possible, consequential or 
inadvertent misrepresentation.

For additional queries regarding online sales, please call: 087 940 3100

 

On that website an iPhone Mini 64 Gb, for example, costs 13,999 South African 
Rand which converts to approx $980 US Dollars. This phone costs $699 in the US.

In Canada Apple is currently also gouging a bit, $699 US currently converts to 
approx $875 or $880 Canadian, but an iPhone 12 Mini 64 Gb here in Canada is 
$979 Canadian which if converted back to US is approx. $780 US which is a good 
10% higher than the US price.

But it is still not nearly as bad as in South Africa where it costs approx. 
$980 US or 40% more than what one would pay in the US.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?

 

Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.

 

As for stock sitting on shelves,

 

That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do 

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.

 

Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.

 

I’d start with www.apple.com

And see what happens froom there.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Simon

That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.

 

If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

 

And here a more detailed explanation from an ar

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Simon

Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?

 

Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.

 

As for stock sitting on shelves,

 

That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do 

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.

 

Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.

 

I’d start with www.apple.com

And see what happens froom there.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Simon

That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.

 

If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

 

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

 

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the detail page for easy 
discovery.

At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from some 
of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including hip-hop, 
country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with artists and 
labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more artists begin 
to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. Together, Apple 
Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers, and mix engineers 
to create songs in Dolby Atmos. Initiatives include doubling the number of 
Dolby-enabled studios in major markets, offering educational

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Arnold

Thanks very much for the info.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 10:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

As for battery life, it is advertised to be 12 hours. I have never run them 
completely down, but there have been a few times that I have run them for maybe 
6 or 7 hours, and they were around 50 percent. Of course, it drops more quickly 
after 50 percent than before. As for an on off switch, it does have one, it is 
on the other side from the what will call the mode button, volume control and 
microphone. These headphones are unique, in that when one attaches the buds 
together with the magnet, it puts them into, as it were, a sleep mode. I have 
never just left them in this sleep mode to see how much it would drain the 
battery, as compared to turning them off, but I will bet it wouldn't drain it a 
lot over time. I do just turn them off when I am not going to use them for a 
while. 

 

Finally, and this is important to know, the charging cable that comes with them 
is a u s b c to u s b c cable. So, unless you have one of these chargers, you 
need either to buy a u s b c charger, or a usb to u s b c cable to charge them. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Jun 21, 2021, at 9:38 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Arnold

I forgot to ask how do you find the battery life i.e. how many hours can one 
listen before its necessary to charge? Also, it sounded from David's podcast 
that there is no on/off switch but that one must stick the two ear pieces 
together via the magnets to put it to sleep, or did I mis understand? And 
lastly, does the sound quality compare well to the first generation airpods? 
Sorry for all these questions?

Regards

Fanus

 

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 12:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

I have had the Beats Flex headphones almost since when they came out last year, 
and they do have the modern chip to take advantage of the spacial audio. For 
what I paid for them, I am happy with these headphones. I would say that they 
do not sound quite as good as the second generation airpods, but then I could 
buy three pair of these headphones for what a pair of the airpods sell for, so 
I hope the airpods sound better. If something were to happen to the Beats Flex 
headphones, I would buy another pair of them. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Jun 21, 2021, at 5:30 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

 

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

 

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the detail page for easy 
discovery.

At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from some 
of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including hip-hop, 
country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with artists and 
labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more artists begin 
to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. Together, Apple 
Music

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Fanus Buys]

Hello ED
Which headphones are you using?
Regards
Fanus


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ed Worrell
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 3:56 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello All,

I have been playing around with the spacial audio as well. I found that my 
favorite NuMetal band Linkin Park has remastered their first album Hybrid 
Theory in Dolby. …and Oh My God is it amazing this new format. Mike Shinoda, 
the lead singer did the remaster and it’s sooo good!

I am hearing things in the music I have never heard before.

Ed


> On Jun 21, 2021, at 7:50 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
> 
> Hello Simon
> That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
> can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
> been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
> battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
> and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and 
> one of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I 
> made sure that the case stayed fully charged.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they 
> say about the tech specs.
>  
> If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
> Buys
> Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Hello Sieghard and list
> I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
> within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
> therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in 
> SA has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not 
> sure if they really know the specs.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
> format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
> using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an 
> example it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos 
> technology, but that of course will take time and I would not expect that 
> every song in Apple's 75 Million song library will be remastered.
>  
> And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:
>  
> Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
> Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables 
> artists to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By 
> default, Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all 
> AirPods and Beats headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in 
> speakers in the latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be 
> adding new Dolby Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set 
> of Dolby Atmos playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In 
> addition, albums that are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the 
> detail page for easy discovery.
> At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from 
> some of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including 
> hip-hop, country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with 
> artists and labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more 
> artists begin to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. 
> Together, Apple Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers, 
> and mix engineers to create songs in Dolby Atmos. Initiatives include 
> doubling the number of Dolby-enabled studios in major markets, offering 
> educational programs, and providing resources to independent artists.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Noe 
> Villeda
> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 4:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> I also like the new dolby audio.  What I don’t get, and maybe I’m missing 
> something.  When I listen to a song that

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Sieghard

Now I am a bit confused. From the article which you quoted it seems that the H1 
or W1 chip is indeed required. 

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Keep in mind that Dolby 

Atmos or spacial audio as they also call it does not require Apple headphones 
with the H1 chip at all. I don't know if there is a drawback when you say that 
Dolby 
Atmos should be always on insrtead of automatic, but if you turn it to Alwahys 
on you hear the music which is available in the Dolby 
Atmos format using any old (or new) headset. Keep in mind that while some of 
the high-end Bluetooth headsets sound very good, a wired headset will still 
sound better. I would not be surprised if in a tru test the finding would be 
that you can get a wired headset which sounds as good as those $300 to $600 
Bluetooth headsets so many people now buy for a lot less. But to each their own.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 6:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Simon

That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.

 

If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

 

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

 

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the detail page for easy 
discovery.

At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from some 
of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including hip-hop, 
country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with artists and 
labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more artists begin 
to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. Together, Apple 
Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers, and mix engineers 
to create songs in Dolby Atmos. Initiatives include doubling the number of 
Dolby-enabled studios in major markets, offering educational programs, and 
providing resources to independent artists.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 4:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Simon

That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.

 

If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

 

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

 

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the detail page for easy 
discovery.

At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from some 
of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including hip-hop, 
country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with artists and 
labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more artists begin 
to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. Together, Apple 
Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers, and mix engineers 
to create songs in Dolby Atmos. Initiatives include doubling the number of 
Dolby-enabled studios in major markets, offering educational programs, and 
providing resources to independent artists.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 4:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

I also like the new dolby audio.  What I don’t get, and maybe I’m missing 
something.  When I listen to a song that I’ve previously downloaded, shouldn’t 
it also play using the new dolby surround sound?

 

I’ve set it to dolby on automatically in settings, but I noticed a difference 
at first, but now, music sounds the same whether I turn dolby on or off, just 
to experiment.  I am using he Beats Solo headphones.

 

I’d appreciate any advice.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hi,

also liked what I heard of the Dolby Atmos demos, even though I was using 
regular Apple earbuds. 

 

 

Also, the lossless format is available, too, which sounds much better. Tom

 

 

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 9:30:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here 

 

iOS 14.6, I have not installed any iOS 15 beta

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 9

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Arnold

I forgot to ask how do you find the battery life i.e. how many hours can one 
listen before its necessary to charge? Also, it sounded from David's podcast 
that there is no on/off switch but that one must stick the two ear pieces 
together via the magnets to put it to sleep, or did I mis understand? And 
lastly, does the sound quality compare well to the first generation airpods? 
Sorry for all these questions?

Regards

Fanus

 

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 12:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

I have had the Beats Flex headphones almost since when they came out last year, 
and they do have the modern chip to take advantage of the spacial audio. For 
what I paid for them, I am happy with these headphones. I would say that they 
do not sound quite as good as the second generation airpods, but then I could 
buy three pair of these headphones for what a pair of the airpods sell for, so 
I hope the airpods sound better. If something were to happen to the Beats Flex 
headphones, I would buy another pair of them. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Jun 21, 2021, at 5:30 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

 

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

 

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the detail page for easy 
discovery.

At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from some 
of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including hip-hop, 
country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with artists and 
labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more artists begin 
to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. Together, Apple 
Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers, and mix engineers 
to create songs in Dolby Atmos. Initiatives include doubling the number of 
Dolby-enabled studios in major markets, offering educational programs, and 
providing resources to independent artists.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 4:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

I also like the new dolby audio.  What I don’t get, and maybe I’m missing 
something.  When I listen to a song that I’ve previously downloaded, shouldn’t 
it also play using the new dolby surround sound?

 

I’ve set it to dolby on automatically in settings, but I noticed a difference 
at first, but now, music sounds the same whether I turn dolby on or off, just 
to experiment.  I am using he Beats Solo headphones.

 

I’d appreciate any advice.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hi,

also liked what I heard of the Dolby Atmos demos, even though I was using 
regular Apple earbuds. 

 

 

Also, the lossless format is available, too, which sounds much better. Tom

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 9:30

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Arnold

Thanks for your info. I got confused, so now, after having listened to the 
podcast by David Woodbridge, I realize that the Beats Flex is a Bluetooth 
headphone and the "wired" to which David refers is the wire between the two ear 
pieces. As you say, the beats flex is fairly cheap so if the batteries also 
will last for two years it is a good choice.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 12:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

I have had the Beats Flex headphones almost since when they came out last year, 
and they do have the modern chip to take advantage of the spacial audio. For 
what I paid for them, I am happy with these headphones. I would say that they 
do not sound quite as good as the second generation airpods, but then I could 
buy three pair of these headphones for what a pair of the airpods sell for, so 
I hope the airpods sound better. If something were to happen to the Beats Flex 
headphones, I would buy another pair of them. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Jun 21, 2021, at 5:30 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

 

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

 

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the detail page for easy 
discovery.

At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from some 
of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including hip-hop, 
country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with artists and 
labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more artists begin 
to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. Together, Apple 
Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers, and mix engineers 
to create songs in Dolby Atmos. Initiatives include doubling the number of 
Dolby-enabled studios in major markets, offering educational programs, and 
providing resources to independent artists.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 4:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

I also like the new dolby audio.  What I don’t get, and maybe I’m missing 
something.  When I listen to a song that I’ve previously downloaded, shouldn’t 
it also play using the new dolby surround sound?

 

I’ve set it to dolby on automatically in settings, but I noticed a difference 
at first, but now, music sounds the same whether I turn dolby on or off, just 
to experiment.  I am using he Beats Solo headphones.

 

I’d appreciate any advice.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hi,

also liked what I heard of the Dolby Atmos demos, even though I was using 
regular Apple earbuds. 

 

 

Also, the lossless format is available, too, which sounds much better. Tom

 

 

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 9:30:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio 

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

 

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

 

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the detail page for easy 
discovery.

At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from some 
of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including hip-hop, 
country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with artists and 
labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more artists begin 
to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. Together, Apple 
Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers, and mix engineers 
to create songs in Dolby Atmos. Initiatives include doubling the number of 
Dolby-enabled studios in major markets, offering educational programs, and 
providing resources to independent artists.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 4:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

I also like the new dolby audio.  What I don’t get, and maybe I’m missing 
something.  When I listen to a song that I’ve previously downloaded, shouldn’t 
it also play using the new dolby surround sound?

 

I’ve set it to dolby on automatically in settings, but I noticed a difference 
at first, but now, music sounds the same whether I turn dolby on or off, just 
to experiment.  I am using he Beats Solo headphones.

 

I’d appreciate any advice.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hi,

also liked what I heard of the Dolby Atmos demos, even though I was using 
regular Apple earbuds. 

 

 

Also, the lossless format is available, too, which sounds much better. Tom

 

 

Get Outlook for iOS  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 9:30:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here 

 

iOS 14.6, I have not installed any iOS 15 beta

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 9:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hi Sieghard

 

 

 

Running which IOS version on your phone?

 

Cheers,

 

Simon F

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 18 June 2021 3:41 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello,

 

I am not entirely sure if this is rolling out to certain countries only and if 
everybody is getting this at the same time, but I received a notification from 
the Music app this morning that Apple's spacial audio was now available.

I was informed that with certain headsets from Apple the feature would be 
automatically turned on, but you can also go into Settings > Music and under 
the Audio heading look for the Dolby Atmos entry and change it from Automatic 
to Always On.

Once I did this I plugged in my somewhat high-end V-Mota wired headset and 
listened to some of the demos Apple has available in the Music app under the 
Browse tab. One of them was demonstrating the difference between Mono, Stereo 
and Dolby Atmos 

RE: The disaster that is classical music on Apple Music

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
Its not a new disaster. Ever since I subscribed to Apple music operas are not 
downloaded correctly. Most of the time apple regards an opera as a compilation 
so some tracks are stored under artists, others under composer and some even 
under the name of the Conductor. I notified apple about this several times but 
as usual, no response. That's why I prefer Spotify.
Regards
Fanus
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The disaster that is classical music on Apple Music

I pull classical music into my library and it satisfies me.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 10:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The disaster that is classical music on Apple Music

Well, the audience is certainly bigger than voiceover users. Not that they 
shouldn’t do stuff for voiceover users, but they’re a huge company. And there’s 
just no reason for them not to have a better search mechanism. If a little 
dinky companies like tidal and prime phonic can do it, Apple really has zero 
excuse.


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 14, 2021, at 8:29 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> Yes, Apple is a rich company. It is also a big company, with more 
> than one billion iPhones in active use. It is likely that classical 
> music is too small an audience to devote a lot of resources.  
> Classical lovers are better off ripping CD’s and transferring them to 
> their device or finding classical radio streams they like.
> 
>> On 5/14/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> I have no idea. All I know is that Apple is a very rich company. 
>> They’re really getting into services. And maybe classical just isn’t 
>> big enough for them to mess with, but so far prime phonic is still in 
>> business. Maybe what they need to do is buy prime phonic, but not 
>> screw it up like they did with Siri, rather let prime phonic show apple how 
>> classical music should be done.
>> It’s really a good service, although the Accessibility is not that great.
>> That’s why I want Apple to get their stuff together.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 14, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I wonder if they use a different database than perhaps other services.
>>> Or, the CD itself had Bach as the Artist.
>>> I know I ran across that a lot with CD’s that I ripped into iTunes.
>>> I spent too much time editing the tagging so the Artist was actually 
>>> the artist and not the composer, etc.
>>> 
>>> Pretty stupid.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
>>> but what they become by it."
>>> 
>>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Web site: www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 5:21 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: The disaster that is classical music on Apple Music
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Malcolm. I’ll have to check out that site. I was really 
>>> interested in this new service the Apple is supposed to offer. But I 
>>> surely do wish they would get their classical act together. People 
>>> have been complaining for years, but I guess we’re such a small group that 
>>> Apple doesn’t care.
>>> It’s not like they don’t have the resources.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 14, 2021, at 4:49 PM, Malcolm Parfitt 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The short answer to the question is no.
>>> 
>>> Apple Music leaves a lot to be desired when searching for classical 
>>> music.
>>> 
>>> Often I have found results by chance rather than by anything else.  
>>> Or I have followed a convoluted route and stumbled upon something of 
>>> interest.
>>> 
>>> What I normally do is use the following site then type an 
>>> interesting result into Apple Music and then listen to what I am interested 
>>> in.
>>> 
>>> https://www.prestomusic.com/classical
>>> 
>>> I have found many albums by Hosé Carreras that Apple Music did not 
>>> show when searching by their facility alone.
>>> His recording of Cavalleria Rusticana being one example.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 15 May 2021, at 00:32, Richard Turner 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Hi Mary,
>>> Not that this helps, but I just searched in Amazon Music for Bach 
>>> Brandenburg concertos, and the first result was the entire 6 
>>> concertos recorded by the English Consort.
>>> Sea what you get with Apple Music.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small 
>>> minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>>> 
>>> www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 14, 2021, at 3:52 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have been in Apple Music subscriber for years. I’m still waiting 
>>> for them to get classical music where it’s at 

RE: Software update process on iPhone

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Sieghard and list
That's exactly what I meant. Our data speed is so slow that this download took 
almost 30 minutes and that is why I like to hear the download percentage so 
that I know the process is still going on. For some reason I have never heard 
the percentage unles I go out of the software update and back again, maybe I 
have not waited long enough because the download is so slow.
Regards
Fanus


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Software update process on iPhone

Maybe it would show up for me as well, but I usually just start the process, do 
a scrub gesture to go back and then I open Software Update again and it's all 
there.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Software update process on iPhone

I have never had this problem. I do know that during the download process, it 
does take a while before the percentage shows up, for me about 10-15%. Same 
behavior for the installation, about 5-10% before the percentage & time are 
displayed. I’ve always chalked up the slight delay to the system gathering 
download time based on my wifi speed.

Donna   
> 
> Hello list
> When I activate the process it starts but when swiping around I do not 
> hear the install time and percentage. I have to double tap on 
> "general" to go back, then tab to "software update" and double tab. 
> Then I can swipe to hear time and percentage. This is happening for 
> each update since I can remember, so I can not understand why on earth 
> Apple does not correct this after so many years. I notified them 
> several times without any success. Do others experience the same? This 
> iPhone 11 is my 4th iPhone since the 3GS and this was the situation on every 
> phone.
> Regards
> Fanus
> 
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RE: Software update process on iPhone

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard

I hear what you say but my method gives direct acces to time left and 
percentage. I like to hear the percentage so interesting how people's 
requirements differ.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 1:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Software update process on iPhone

 

You have to listen through the version number to where it will tell you the 
time, etc. 

For me, it is always the first item on that software update screen.

Once it finishes the download and starts preparing the update, I've never found 
a time, or even thought about the time as it varies depending on your phone 
processor.

I just wait until it finishes or pops up a dialog where I have to hit Install; 
but if you do nothing, it just installs.

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

www.turner42.com

 





On Apr 27, 2021, at 4:21 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

Hello list
When I activate the process it starts but when swiping around I do not hear
the install time and percentage. I have to double tap on "general" to go
back, then tab to "software update" and double tab. Then I can swipe to hear
time and percentage. This is happening for each update since I can remember,
so I can not understand why on earth Apple does not correct this after so
many years. I notified them several times without any success. Do others
experience the same? This iPhone 11 is my 4th iPhone since the 3GS and this
was the situation on every phone.
Regards
Fanus


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Software update process on iPhone

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
When I activate the process it starts but when swiping around I do not hear
the install time and percentage. I have to double tap on "general" to go
back, then tab to "software update" and double tab. Then I can swipe to hear
time and percentage. This is happening for each update since I can remember,
so I can not understand why on earth Apple does not correct this after so
many years. I notified them several times without any success. Do others
experience the same? This iPhone 11 is my 4th iPhone since the 3GS and this
was the situation on every phone.
Regards
Fanus


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Screen Mirroring

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Hello list
Does screen mirroring work via bluetooth, wifi or none of these?
Regards
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RE: Waltr softorino

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard and Malcolm

Well, that is interesting. It sounds like Malcolm thinks it works well but you 
say the opposite. So, is there a trial version? Due to the bad exchange rate 
the price is quite substantial here by us, so I do not spend the money unless I 
am sure I would be able to use the software with JAWS.

Regards

Fanus

 

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2021 1:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Waltr softorino

 

It does not seem to work very well with Jaws or NVDA. 

I cannot speak for Mac users.

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

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On Apr 22, 2021, at 4:02 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

 Waltr Pro will allow you to do so although I’ve not tried it.

Malcolm Parfitt





On 22 Apr 2021, at 23:53, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

 

Hi Folks,

 

Does this app allow you to change the meta  data for tracks / media on the 
machine 

 

So you can correct spelling 

Genres etc?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Friday, 23 April 2021 4:31 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Waltr softorino

 

Hi Richard,

 

I will try and answer your second question as I have just been having a play 
with it.  I am using Narrator not sure about JAWS as I don’t have it.

 

Launch Waltr Pro.

 

Select  iPhone Device.

 

You will be in  a browser window where you can navigate to and select material 
to transfer.

 

Make your selection, tab to and press Open.

 

Focus should now be on a button that says Convert and Transfer.

 

Instead of pressing Enter here, Tab around and you should find two further 
buttons.

 

One of which should be Transfer to another app.  If you select this, you should 
have another list of target apps you can transfer to.

 

The interface is a little hit and miss all the more reason for us to highlight 
these issues before product release.

 

Malcolm

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 22 April 2021 17:04
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Waltr softorino

 

Hi Harry,

I reported it to them.

I also found a couple other, what I consider, major issues.

 

The “Where are my files?” button doesn’t work with a screen reader at all.

 

And, exactly how would you copy an MP3 file to an alternative app like Voice 
Dream Reader instead of it automatically adding it to your music library?

 

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site:  

 www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 6:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Waltr softorino

 

Hi Richard,

 

I have just taken a look at the Files Tab in Waltr Pro’s Preferences as you 
describe and my findings agree with yours.

 

Whichever of the two options I choose I have a standard tree structure from 
which I can navigate to a folder of my choice and a Select Folder button.

 

However, once I’ve made my choice and hit the Select Folder button it appears 
that my selection is not saved.

 

May be worth contacting them about this.

 

Both our experiences are the same.

 

Given the software is not released yet this may be a bug worth bringing to 
their attention.

 

Malcolm

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 22 April 2021 14:08
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Waltr softorino

 

Malcolm,

For my sake and others, could you say more about what Jaws is telling you about 
the “Standard Browser?“

 

I get two buttons, local folder and iTunes Library.

Both of which default to some very useless place.

IN the settings on the file tab, I cannot get it to stick to the folder of my 
choice.

 

I have tried with Jaws, NVDA, and Narrator.

 

This software is way smarter than me, or I’m way more stupid than I thought.

 

Don’t get me wrong, it is great for transferring files wirelessly, but working 
within its default structure is a bit tedious.

 

Thanks,

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site:  

RE: Waltr softorino

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard 

You mention an important point about iTunes. Does that mean that only stuf 
which is in iTunes library can be transfered or can one transfer any music 
which is on the pc. All my music is not in iTunes library because iTunes, at 
least for me, is not very easy to use, so I use Winamp or Sonos to play music 
which is in different folders.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 8:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Waltr softorino

 

Being the very picky one here; The company is named Softorino.com, or just 
softorino for their name.

The software is WALTR2, soon to be WALTR Pro.

If you have Windows, you have to have iTunes installed on your system.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site:   www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Waltr softorino

 

Basically Waltr2 allows you to transfer any content to your Apple device.  This 
includes:  Music, videos, books and tones.

 

The new soon to be released Waltr Pro does all this and allows you among other 
things to transfer content to apps other than the standard ones.  So for 
example you could transfer a book to VoiceDream Reader for example rather than 
to Apple Books.

 

When you launch Waltr2 you choose your device then you have a standard browser 
window to select the media you want transferred.

 

Transfer can be via wifi or cable.

 

The new Waltr Pro is compatible with JAWS and NVDA I have also successfully 
used it with Narrator and Dolphin’s Screen Reader.

 

My understanding is that if you bought Waltr2 now you could upgrade to Waltr 
Pro at a 50% discount when it is released.

 

Hope that answers some of your questions.

 

Malcolm Parfitt

 

On 22 Apr 2021, at 18:46, Fazil  wrote:



I am sorry, I could not follow this thread from the beginning, may I know what 
Waltr softorino is, please?

Thanks!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 5:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Waltr softorino

 

Basically Waltr2 allows you to transfer any content to your Apple device.  This 
includes:  Music, videos, books and tones.

 

The new soon to be released Waltr Pro does all this and allows you among other 
things to transfer content to apps other than the standard ones.  So for 
example you could transfer a book to VoiceDream Reader for example rather than 
to Apple Books.

 

When you launch Waltr2 you choose your device then you have a standard browser 
window to select the media you want transferred.

 

Transfer can be via wifi or cable.

 

The new Waltr Pro is compatible with JAWS and NVDA I have also successfully 
used it with Narrator and Dolphin’s Screen Reader.

 

My understanding is that if you bought Waltr2 now you could upgrade to Waltr 
Pro at a 50% discount when it is released.

 

Hope that answers some of your questions.

Malcolm Parfitt





On 22 Apr 2021, at 13:15, Anthony Borg  wrote:



Hi 

 

Can anyone explain more fully the use of the Waltr softorino please? 

Thanks in advance 

 

Anthony 

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RE: Waltr softorino

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list

I would also like to learn more before I decide to purchase, especially if the 
Windows version is just as accessible.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

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Hi 

 

Can anyone explain more fully the use of the Waltr softorino please? 

Thanks in advance 

 

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Car Radio and iPod touch

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Hello list
My wife got a new vehicle. I tried to connect my iPod Touch 6th Gen via
bluetooth and the strange thing is that voiceover goes dead i.e. it is not
carried over to the car radio as is in the case with my other vehicle. It is
also silent on the iPod. My iPod has IOS12 installed which is the latest
version it can take. Does anyone have an idea why this happens?
Regards
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Set iPhone as USB Device

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Hello list
It is the first time that I try to copy photos from my iPhone to PC. When I
plug the cable into the pc's usb port I get a message on the iPhone that I
must set it as USB device. I looked through the settings but I can not find
such a setting. Can someone please help? I thought the pc will automatically
pick up the iPhone at least to copy photos.
Regards
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RE: New Echo

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Sieghard and list
The other thing which disappoints me about the echo show is that I hoped that 
if one use the translate function or read a Kindle book that the text would 
show on the screen but this does not happen.
Regards
Fanus


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 7:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New Echo

You have to understand the way these devices work.
The Alexa app on your phone is primarily an interface to adjust settings on 
your Echo speaker, add skills and so on. Yes, it is to some extend also 
allowing you to use your iPhone like an Alexa speaker, e.g. ask questions or 
give commands just as you would to your Echo speaker.
As far as playing books on your Echo speaker which in fact are playing on your 
phone like BARD, in this case you basically use yur Echo speaker just like you 
would any Bluetooth speaker, e.g. you pair it to your phone and the whatever 
you play on your phone plays via your Echo. But because the Echo is a 
smartspeaker you can obviously take it one step further, i.e. once a book is 
playing you can ask your speaker to pause or resume or skip forward or back, on 
a regular Bluetooth speaker you would do these things by pressing the 
appropriate button. But I don't think you can pair your Echo to your phone and 
then tell it to play a BARD book unless you first start the book in your BARD 
app.
Audible is a different matter because Amazon owns Audible hence it's very 
seamlessly integrated into Echo speakers and as long as you are signed into 
your speaker with the same Amazon account you use for Audible the Alexa 
assistant has access to your Audible library.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
muccio
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Echo

Joshua, 
Wow this just opened up   a new door for me! Thank you. I knew I was missing 
something that should’ve been doable. Pairing it, Bluetooth, got it. I might’ve 
seen that somewhere in settings and wasn’t sure exactly what it would be doing, 
but if you say it can do it I’m sure it can do it.Admitte admittedly I was 
confused about why I could run the echo even without Bluetooth since I thought 
it was indeed linked to my phone via the Alexa app. I don’t have Bluetooth on. 
But I guess I’ll turn it on if I wanna do something like have it read me a Bard 
book. Thank you again.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 11:03 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I can use my google home to easily access bard mobile on my iPhone if 
> I wish.  I'm sure the echo is the same.  What you do, is first tell 
> your echo to connect.  It will then say searching, then should connect 
> to your iPhone.  Note, you must first make sure that you have paired 
> your echo to your iPhone in order for this to work.  Next, open bard 
> mobile app on your iPhone.  Hit your play button of your bard mobile 
> app and your book will begin to play.  Now, stop playback of your bard 
> book.  Now, tell your echo to play, and your bard book will begin to 
> play.  You can do things like say stop and your book will stop, if you 
> tell your echo next or back, then your bard book will go forward or 
> back by chapter if the mark-up in the book is by chapter.  Good luck.
> 
>> On 3/6/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> You must be buying really tiny cantaloupes *smile* I would say the 
>> fourth gen Echo is more like a slightly larger tennis ball, sorry, 
>> I'm not too familiar with baseball, but I think that is more like it.
>> I bought my wife the version which has a clock display which she 
>> loves because if she wakes up at night she can just glance at it to 
>> know what time it is.
>> At my office I just set up the Echo Show 5 which is the smallest Echo 
>> with a screen and I primarily bought it because it makes it very easy 
>> to connect to my ring video doorbell with just a voice command. 
>> However, you still wouldn't be able to just play movies, yes, you 
>> could set up YouTube I think, but if  you want to use it you would be 
>> better off with a Google smart speaker with screen since Google owns 
>> YouTube and it's already integrated. I am not sure about Amazon prime 
>> Video on the Echo Show, we just never use it for that. With a Google 
>> speaker with screen, whatever they call it, you can also play 
>> anything on your iPhone like Netflix or in the TV app and send it to the 
>> Google via Chromecast.
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of deidre muccio
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 5:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Cc: Daniel Macdonald 
>> Subject: Re: New Echo
>> 
>> I believe what I have is an echo fourth generation. It’s about the 
>> size of a cantaloupe. No it does not have a screen. Maybe I will get 
>> a little one with a tiny screen or the smaller screen so that I can 

Apple CarPlay and AndroidAuto

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
Are there any ways that blind users can benefit from these car technologies?
Also, what is mirrorlink. Is it perhaps what I know as screen mirroring
between my iPhone and Samsung TV?
Regards
Fanus


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RE: Two questions relating to sonos Products

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Sieghard

On that point: I received an email from Sonos asking me to take part in a 
survey. I answered the questions and then there was an edit field for a further 
comment where I pointed out that I am a bit disappointed with the support 
system of Sonos. Unfortunately nothing happened when I tried to activate the 
submit button, so I suppose I have more ground for my view that there support 
is not up to standard for a company selling such excellent products.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Two questions relating to sonos Products

 

I would, however, point out that one should probably not use the link to email 
the CEO with basic tech support questions. I am sure that the CEO is not 
actually checking that email himself anyways or he would be doing nothing but 
reading emails all day and probably still couldn't read them all let alone 
reply!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 8:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Two questions relating to sonos Products

 

I went to the contact page and used the link:

 

Want to email our CEO, Patrick Spence, directly? Click here 
 

 

He forwarded my note to a support person.

I was able to ask several follow-up questions by replying to that email.

 

Sieghard has also had good results calling them.

  Call 800-680-2345

HTH,

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site,   www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two questions relating to sonos Products

 

Hi Richard sorry for the stray reply I didn't mean to send it privately. My 
apologies.

did you initiate support through a web form or an email address?
Interestingly you can actually duplicate favorites in My Sonos between stations 
that appear in Sonos Radio and Tune In I did that to compare to see if there 
was any difference and there is not.  I've already written to TuneIn themselves 
but will contact Sonos as well. As I said i"m curious how you initiated your 
contact. I'm assuming everything starts with web forms these days.
Robin

On 2/3/2021 8:17 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I cannot help with the second question as I am quite new to Sonos. 

I noticed that the TuneIn issue is that Sonos is tied to the regular TuneIn not 
even the TuneIn pro app.

I have TuneIn Pro from the days when they would let you record shows even 
without paying for premium. So, my long list of favorite stations are in TuneIn 
Pro. When I got the Sonos speakers, none of those favorites were there.

I downloaded the regular TuneIn, added a few favorites, and wala, they showed 
up on Sonos. 

And yes, it seems that Sonos Radio either overlaps with TuneIn, or actually 
moves them from TuneIn into the Sonos favorites.

I do not have TuneIn Premium, but if I were you I would use airplay to send 
TuneIn to the speakers to avoid the ads.

Or, if you didn't, ask Sonos what is going on. I found after writing the 
executive, who forwarded my question to someone in support, they were quite 
fast in replying to my questions when I just replied to the support email.

 

Richard

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

 

On Feb 3, 2021, at 3:45 AM, Robin Frost   
 wrote:

 

Hi,

I hope this finds all happy and well.

My first question has to do with listening to radio stations via Sonos. I’m 
curious why it is that when searching for a station many often have entries 
appearing under “SonosRadio” as well as “TuneIn.” There doesn’t seem to be any 
advantage of picking one over the other though for a while it seemed that 
picking the Sonos Radio entry got you fewer ads before a Tune In stream started 
though this is now not the case. On a related note I do subscribe to Tune In 
Premium which seems to suppress  ads when listening via their app on my iDevice 
but there doesn’t seem to be a way to sign into one’s Tune In premium account 
via Sonos.

Strangely when summoning Tune In stations via an Apple HomePod Mini I haven’t 
had any ads before a stream starts yet and I haven’t a clue why.

Secondly I know that some on this list participate in sonos beta testing and 
some have been long time users and are much more knowledgeable than I myself am 
thus I pose this 

RE: phone not announcing low batter

[Fanus Buys]

Hello
I am just curious? Does your phone not announce low battery when you bring it 
out of standby mode or when it is still in standby mode. That is one of my 
great disappointments of apple phones. I have an android Samsung and even when 
it is lying in the drawer of my desk it wakes up to tell me when the battery is 
reaching 20%. On apple phones I have to bring it to life before it announces 
that the battery is low. Many times I forget to check the battery status 
regularly and when I want to use my phone the battery is flat. It puzzles me 
that after all these years apple can not add such a feature, unless it is my 
ignorance of such a setting or app?
Regards
Fanus
 

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Subject: phone not announcing low batter

hi:


i have noticed that my phone is not announcing when i get a low 
battery.  i was wondering how i could possibly get it back to announcing 
it aga in.  i am using an iphone 8 and IOS version 14.2.  thanks

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RE: app to find ip addresses on wifi network

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Simon
Thanks, I downloaded the software. By using the jaws cursor I could find the 
scan button and I could read the list. Do you know if there are some hot keys 
for scan and other functions? I use JAWS 2021 & Windows10.
Regards
Fanus


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Subject: RE: app to find ip addresses on wifi network

On your computer yes,

 I use a widnows application called advanced IP scanner,

It will give you every device and IP address on your network.
But I don't know if that comes in a mac version.

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Subject: app to find ip addresses on wifi network

Hello listers
Is there such an accessible app? I added a TPLink extender and the setup 
completed but now I want to check if it is indeed connected to the network. 
Regards
Fanus


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RE: app to find ip addresses on wifi network

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard

Thanks, I shall try that.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 3:40 PM
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Fanus,What I discovered is that if from the main screen you press, continue 
without IDFA, on the next screen, double tap the scan for devices button, you 
will get a list of all the devicesBefore doing that, I had the same results az 
you with everything being generic.Now, there is only one generic device, which 
I suspect is a USB hub.

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
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On Nov 29, 2020, at 1:04 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

Hello Max
Thanks, I am a bit ignorant here. If you log in where do you get the info?
Regards
Fanus


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Hi,
if I wish to see what is connected to my network I log in to my router.
Wouldn’t this give the info you require?
Max.




On 28 Nov 2020, at 9:55 am, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

 

On your computer yes,

 

I use a widnows application called advanced IP scanner,

 

It will give you every device and IP address on your network.

But I don't know if that comes in a mac version.

 

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Hello listers

Is there such an accessible app? I added a TPLink extender and the setup 
completed but now I want to check if it is indeed connected to the network. 

Regards

Fanus

 

 

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RE: app to find ip addresses on wifi network

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Hello Max
Thanks, I am a bit ignorant here. If you log in where do you get the info?
Regards
Fanus


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Hi,
if I wish to see what is connected to my network I log in to my router.
Wouldn’t this give the info you require?
Max.

> On 28 Nov 2020, at 9:55 am, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> On your computer yes,
> 
> I use a widnows application called advanced IP scanner,
> 
> It will give you every device and IP address on your network.
> But I don't know if that comes in a mac version.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Buys
> Sent: Saturday, 28 November 2020 1:39 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> 
> Hello listers
> Is there such an accessible app? I added a TPLink extender and the setup 
> completed but now I want to check if it is indeed connected to the network. 
> Regards
> Fanus
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RE: app to find ip addresses on wifi network

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Hello Malcolm

Thanks, I do have Fing but it shows my host ip and my iPhone but all the others 
are called "generic", so I do not know wich is the Repeater or Echo dot or 
Sonos speakers. Also, it says 9 devices while currently I have only 5 
connected, so I suppose it picked up devices which was connected previously. 

Regards

Fanus

 

 

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Take a look at:

 

https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/fing-network-scanner/id430921107

Malcolm Parfitt





On 27 Nov 2020, at 23:20, Agent086b  wrote:

Hi,
if I wish to see what is connected to my network I log in to my router.
Wouldn’t this give the info you require?
Max.




On 28 Nov 2020, at 9:55 am, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

 

On your computer yes,

 

I use a widnows application called advanced IP scanner,

 

It will give you every device and IP address on your network.

But I don't know if that comes in a mac version.

 

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Hello listers

Is there such an accessible app? I added a TPLink extender and the setup 
completed but now I want to check if it is indeed connected to the network. 

Regards

Fanus

 

 

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Is there such an accessible app? I added a TPLink extender and the setup
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how to delete an audible book from iPad

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Hello list
I think this was answered a while ago but I had a hard drive problem and I
lost some info, so can someone help. If I activate delete then it speaks
something about adding it to the collections list but I do not understand
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RE: What’s everyone’s favourite back tap controls just curious

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Hello list
I suppose this is a global setting and not per app. I suppose then I am pushing 
my luck but I was hoping one could set it for previous and next track when 
listening to music via headphones. 
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Hi where do I find those options.
Jen

> On Sep 22, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
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> 2 Back-Taps Google Assistant; 3 Back-Taps Alexa.
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> Gera
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Whatsapp messages just say "notification"

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
When my iPhone notifies me of a normal message it gives the name of the
sender and the subject but whatsapp notifications just say the sender's name
and then "notification". Then I have to open whatsapp to see what's the
message about. Is there a way to change this?
Regards
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RE: apple's equivalent of the echo

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Simon

Thanks. I was looking for a Kindle book on Amazon site and came across a link 
for my connections. Then there was an option to connect Sonos and it worked, so 
I am not sure why it did not work via the app on my iPhone. I still have a 
strange issue. My Sonos One and two Sonos Play3 speakers are setup in the same 
group so that when streaming from my iPhone all will play. But the moment I ask 
Alexa to play music only the Play One plays. When I then look at the Room 
Settings on my PC or in the iPhone Sonos app the Play3 speakers are unselected. 
I can not understand why this happens when I play via Alexa.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 3:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: apple's equivalent of the echo

 

No it shouldn’t be as the sonos 1 with alexa works here in nz 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2020 10:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: apple's equivalent of the echo

 

Hello Sieghard

I agree about the Sonos speakers but is the Alexa option country specific 
because when I try to set the Echo Dot to work with Sonos One I get an error 
saying it could not connect to the server.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 6:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: apple's equivalent of the echo

 

Then I think you may not have heard a Sonos system yet and while there a few 
limitations, you can set up a Sonos One or some of th eother newer speakers 
either as an Alexa or Google Home speaker. One limitation is that you can't use 
features like  Drop-In which you can do between actual Echo speakers.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
Fettgather
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: apple's equivalent of the echo

 

Nothing compares to the actual audio produced by the Homepod, nothing.

Except maybe for the Amazon Studio Speaker.

The Amazon devices certainly have a few more skills, no doubt about it, but 
Homepod sounds fantastic, far better than most Amazon devices.

Just an opinion.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 7:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple's equivalent of the echo

 

hi, Alan, I totally agree with you. The echo has a tremendous sound. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

 

On Jul 25, 2020, at 10:06 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

 

Janet,

 

I thought Apple's digital assistant is Siri. I would strongly recommend you 
stick with the Amazon Echo rather than investing in a Home Pod running Siri. 
All of these devices and systems have issues from time to time but my opinion 
is that the Amazon Echo is the best of the lot.

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Janet 
Bell 
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 2:53:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: apple's equivalent of the echo 

 

please would someone tell me whether apple’s equivalent of the echo is any good 
as they are having trouble with the echo and wonder whether it is worth 
changing.  Janet

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RE: apple's equivalent of the echo

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Sieghard

I agree about the Sonos speakers but is the Alexa option country specific 
because when I try to set the Echo Dot to work with Sonos One I get an error 
saying it could not connect to the server.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 6:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: apple's equivalent of the echo

 

Then I think you may not have heard a Sonos system yet and while there a few 
limitations, you can set up a Sonos One or some of th eother newer speakers 
either as an Alexa or Google Home speaker. One limitation is that you can't use 
features like  Drop-In which you can do between actual Echo speakers.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
Fettgather
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: apple's equivalent of the echo

 

Nothing compares to the actual audio produced by the Homepod, nothing.

Except maybe for the Amazon Studio Speaker.

The Amazon devices certainly have a few more skills, no doubt about it, but 
Homepod sounds fantastic, far better than most Amazon devices.

Just an opinion.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 7:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple's equivalent of the echo

 

hi, Alan, I totally agree with you. The echo has a tremendous sound. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

 

On Jul 25, 2020, at 10:06 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

 

Janet,

 

I thought Apple's digital assistant is Siri. I would strongly recommend you 
stick with the Amazon Echo rather than investing in a Home Pod running Siri. 
All of these devices and systems have issues from time to time but my opinion 
is that the Amazon Echo is the best of the lot.

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Janet 
Bell 
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 2:53:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: apple's equivalent of the echo 

 

please would someone tell me whether apple’s equivalent of the echo is any good 
as they are having trouble with the echo and wonder whether it is worth 
changing.  Janet

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RE: battery alert

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard and list

I can not understand why Apple can not implement a low battery alert when the 
phone is locked. Now that I am retired it happens often that my battery is ok 
but because I do not use the phone so frequently it happens many time that the 
battery goes down because I did not use it for a few hours. Samsung phones do 
give alerts so why is this so difficult for apple to implement?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Vicki W.
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2020 4:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery alert

 

I don't get a 5% alert on my phone, but I do on my mini IPad.

 

I'm thinking that because the SE2020 is locked more than the other devices, 
that may be why I'm not getting the alerts.

 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, July 03, 2020 9:44 PM

Subject: RE: battery alert

 

Richard is correct, I have been using iOS devices sincde 2009 and Voiceover has 
always alerted at 20% and 10% although you don't get the alert if the phone is 
locked. For example, if you get the 20% alert, then play an audio book or music 
and lock the phone, you will not get the 10% alert, eventually the phone will 
just turn off when it gets to 0%.

Apparently in iOS 14 I read that with more functionality in the Shortcuts app 
you could set, for example, an alert at 30% and even set it up so that you 
don't just get the option to enable low power mode, but you can set it up so it 
automatically turns on low power mode.

There is no alert at 5% unlocked or not and nothing you can do in Settings will 
change or prevent the 20% and 10% alerts.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 9:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: battery alert

 

And Richard I thought there was also one at 5% also?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, 4 July 2020 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery alert

 

I have never seen it as a setting. 

The iPhone just sets off an alert at 20.% and again at 10% ever since my first 
Apple device.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

On Jul 3, 2020, at 2:33 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:

 

Hi,

 

I have a battery alert set on my IPhone which alerts me when the battery is at 
10% power. I can't find where I set that alert. 

 

I'm using the latest IOs. Does anyone know where I can find that alert setting?

 

Thanks.

 

Vicki

 

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RE: Friendly favour

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard
That is very interesting. I was in touch with someone from Apple South Africa. 
He told me that apple devices like the iPod touch, apple watch and even iPads 
are cealed devices so the batteries can not be replaced. I can hardly believe 
this.
Regards
Fanus


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Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Friendly favour

I know here, Apple did not have any batteries when I checked last year for the 
iPod Touch 6th generation.
But, a third party company in town had them but I decided not to spend the 
money and just converted my old SE to a WiFi device after getting my new SE 
2020.

I don't know if you have businesses that replace batteries like we do in the US.

I hope you find something.



Richard
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Buys
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 8:02 AM
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Subject: Friendly favour

Hello list
I live in South Africa and this afternoon I discovered that, to my greatest 
surprise and disappointment, there are not batteries available here in SA for 
any Apple products, except for iPhones. I need a battery for my iPod 6th Gen 
and you might not understand but due to our terrible exchange rate it is not 
just a matter of buying a new one. Therefor I ask for someone in the US, 
someone in the UK and perhaps Australia and Canada to find out from their local 
apple store if an iPod Touch 6th Gen battery is available there. I want to 
establish if this is a world wide Apple policy or if it is just a problem here 
in SA. Just Imagine, I purchased a new iPad Mini 5 last December. Say for 
whatsoever reason the battery dies a few days after my warranty will elapse at 
the end of the year then I have to fro this brand new product into the bin!
Kind regards
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Friendly favour

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
I live in South Africa and this afternoon I discovered that, to my greatest
surprise and disappointment, there are not batteries available here in SA
for any Apple products, except for iPhones. I need a battery for my iPod 6th
Gen and you might not understand but due to our terrible exchange rate it is
not just a matter of buying a new one. Therefor I ask for someone in the US,
someone in the UK and perhaps Australia and Canada to find out from their
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warranty will elapse at the end of the year then I have to fro this brand
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RE: Youtube app

[Fanus Buys]

Hello
Thanks, I forgot to say that I installed it on my iPad mini 5. Could it be that 
it is inaccessible on the iPad?
I shall reboot my iPad tomorrow and see what happens.
Regards
Fanus




-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Davy Cuppens
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 7:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Youtube app

Richard it is accessible, however not completely.
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 3:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Youtube app

It is completely accessible.
Try rebooting your phone.



Richard
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Buys
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 5:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Youtube app

Hello list
I installed the youtube app (not the youtube music app) but it seems to be 
inaccessible. All I can read with voiceOver is the section of the screen 
with the date and battery status. Is there a trick to get the app to open 
further or is it just inaccessible?
Regards
Fanus


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Youtube app

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
I installed the youtube app (not the youtube music app) but it seems to be
inaccessible. All I can read with voiceOver is the section of the screen
with the date and battery status. Is there a trick to get the app to open
further or is it just inaccessible?
Regards
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RE: Orbit Research Writer

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard

Thanks for the info. I understand there’s no braille display but are the 
panning keys also absent? I like to press just 1 key instead of a key 
combination to progress to a next line etc.

Kind regards

Fanus

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 2:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Orbit Research Writer

 

If the braille writer type keys are not good for you, the Orbit Writer or 
Reader 20 might not be good for you.

The Orbit 40 will have more ergonomic keys.

I think when they use the term scissor keys they are talking about the 
mechanism under the key.

The Writer is laid out exactly like the reader, minus the braille display.

And since it doesn't need all the mechanics for the braille display, it is very 
thin; much like an iPhone 8 in size.

There isn't a manual yet, just the brochure.

 

 

Richard

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just stops you from enjoying the good."

 

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On May 17, 2020, at 4:19 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

 

I’m so sorry!,

Find Download Product Brochure button on this page

 

http://www.orbitresearch.com/product/orbit-writer/ 
<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.orbitresearch.com%2Fproduct%2Forbit-writer%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C7ab87ea9d4bc469245ba08d7fa542b91%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637253111715511783=FcRhCEE83IMb10FfocrVOUAhSNdFfy62vvtOji7qyio%3D=0>
 

Harry





On 17 May 2020, at 11:26, Dave  wrote:

 

I don’t see a link, in the below Email.

 

Dave.

 

 

From: 'Harry <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  Bell' via VIPhone 

Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 11:19 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Orbit Research Writer

 

If you follow the link below, you land on the product page. Swipe down to the 
button saying Download Product Brochure and there you have it! 

Harry





On 17 May 2020, at 10:39, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Harry

Sorry, maybe I am not a gtood server but I don’t find a user manual on the 
website. I looked under support and under resources but I can not find 
anything. Can you please point me in the right direction?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Orbit Research Writer

 

Yes! It is on the orbit research website

Harry






On 17 May 2020, at 10:13, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Richard

Do you know if there is a user manual available?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 12:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Orbit Research Writer

 

I got to use a prototype unit.

It is very nice, and about the size of the iPhone 8.

 

 

Richard

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just stops you from enjoying the good."

 

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020

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On May 16, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:

 I wonder if anyone on the list has any experience with this device? I heard 
about it last weekend, and finally have gotten around to looking it up, being 
that bluetooth keyboards have been under discussion recently. It is a Perkins 
type braille keyboard that connects to a smart phone or computer via bluetooth 
or usb. It is a keyboard only, it has no braille display. I probably will not 
purchase it myself, being that I use Apple Braille Screen input, but this 
device does sound interesting. If anybody is interested, I have posted the link 
below.  

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

https://www.orbitresearch.com/orbit-research-introduces-the-orbit-writer-smartphone-companion/
 
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RE: Orbit Research Writer

[Fanus Buys]

No problem, many times people find stuff which I miss, so I was just thinking 
that you found a manual.

 

 

From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 1:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Orbit Research Writer

 

I’m so sorry!,

Find Download Product Brochure button on this page

 

http://www.orbitresearch.com/product/orbit-writer/

Harry





On 17 May 2020, at 11:26, Dave  wrote:

 

I don’t see a link, in the below Email.

 

Dave.

 

 

From: 'Harry <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  Bell' via VIPhone 

Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 11:19 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Orbit Research Writer

 

If you follow the link below, you land on the product page. Swipe down to the 
button saying Download Product Brochure and there you have it! 

Harry





On 17 May 2020, at 10:39, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Harry

Sorry, maybe I am not a gtood server but I don’t find a user manual on the 
website. I looked under support and under resources but I can not find 
anything. Can you please point me in the right direction?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Orbit Research Writer

 

Yes! It is on the orbit research website

Harry






On 17 May 2020, at 10:13, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Richard

Do you know if there is a user manual available?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 12:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Orbit Research Writer

 

I got to use a prototype unit.

It is very nice, and about the size of the iPhone 8.

 

 

Richard

Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
just stops you from enjoying the good."

 

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020

www.turner42.com

 







On May 16, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:

 I wonder if anyone on the list has any experience with this device? I heard 
about it last weekend, and finally have gotten around to looking it up, being 
that bluetooth keyboards have been under discussion recently. It is a Perkins 
type braille keyboard that connects to a smart phone or computer via bluetooth 
or usb. It is a keyboard only, it has no braille display. I probably will not 
purchase it myself, being that I use Apple Braille Screen input, but this 
device does sound interesting. If anybody is interested, I have posted the link 
below.  

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

https://www.orbitresearch.com/orbit-research-introduces-the-orbit-writer-smartphone-companion/
 
<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.orbitresearch.com%2Forbit-research-introduces-the-orbit-writer-smartphone-companion%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cb1ba73df7c474e81931308d7f9e057ed%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637252614250879693=hOwFFANxYJ1WvWgS9XtGMDTu3xBAUUru4ZvfrShmqrg%3D=0>
 

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RE: Orbit Research Writer

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Harry

Sorry, maybe I am not a gtood server but I don’t find a user manual on the 
website. I looked under support and under resources but I can not find 
anything. Can you please point me in the right direction?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Orbit Research Writer

 

Yes! It is on the orbit research website

Harry





On 17 May 2020, at 10:13, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Richard

Do you know if there is a user manual available?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 12:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Orbit Research Writer

 

I got to use a prototype unit.

It is very nice, and about the size of the iPhone 8.

 

 

Richard

Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
just stops you from enjoying the good."

 

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020

www.turner42.com

 






On May 16, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:

 I wonder if anyone on the list has any experience with this device? I heard 
about it last weekend, and finally have gotten around to looking it up, being 
that bluetooth keyboards have been under discussion recently. It is a Perkins 
type braille keyboard that connects to a smart phone or computer via bluetooth 
or usb. It is a keyboard only, it has no braille display. I probably will not 
purchase it myself, being that I use Apple Braille Screen input, but this 
device does sound interesting. If anybody is interested, I have posted the link 
below.  

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

https://www.orbitresearch.com/orbit-research-introduces-the-orbit-writer-smartphone-companion/
 
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RE: Orbit Research Writer

[Fanus Buys]

Hello again Richard

Can you describe the key layout a bit. What do they mean with scissors keys. I 
have a sensory problem and somehow I find the six braille keys, being in a 
straight line,  on the Orbit Reader a bit difficult for typing.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 12:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Orbit Research Writer

 

I got to use a prototype unit.

It is very nice, and about the size of the iPhone 8.

 

 

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On May 16, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:

 I wonder if anyone on the list has any experience with this device? I heard 
about it last weekend, and finally have gotten around to looking it up, being 
that bluetooth keyboards have been under discussion recently. It is a Perkins 
type braille keyboard that connects to a smart phone or computer via bluetooth 
or usb. It is a keyboard only, it has no braille display. I probably will not 
purchase it myself, being that I use Apple Braille Screen input, but this 
device does sound interesting. If anybody is interested, I have posted the link 
below.  

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

https://www.orbitresearch.com/orbit-research-introduces-the-orbit-writer-smartphone-companion/
 

 

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RE: Orbit Research Writer

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard

Do you know if there is a user manual available?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 12:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Orbit Research Writer

 

I got to use a prototype unit.

It is very nice, and about the size of the iPhone 8.

 

 

Richard

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Sent with the iPhone SE 2020

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On May 16, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:

 I wonder if anyone on the list has any experience with this device? I heard 
about it last weekend, and finally have gotten around to looking it up, being 
that bluetooth keyboards have been under discussion recently. It is a Perkins 
type braille keyboard that connects to a smart phone or computer via bluetooth 
or usb. It is a keyboard only, it has no braille display. I probably will not 
purchase it myself, being that I use Apple Braille Screen input, but this 
device does sound interesting. If anybody is interested, I have posted the link 
below.  

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

https://www.orbitresearch.com/orbit-research-introduces-the-orbit-writer-smartphone-companion/
 

 

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RE: Apple devices and bluetooth

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Robert and Richard

Richard mentions a setting. Where is it?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

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Robert Doc wright
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 11:04 AM
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This works with my iPad when its connected to my Bose soundlink revolve.

**
If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a 
situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!

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Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: Apple devices and bluetooth

 

Well, for me, the audio destination does absolutely nothing. 

All sounds, including VoiceOver go to the bluetooth speaker no matter the 
setting.

 

Richard

Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
just stops you from enjoying the good."

 

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On May 8, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 Some people experienced that on some devices, but it does not seem to be a 
setting or feature that one can choose. 

I do not recall right now, which devices someone had that did this.

 

Richard

Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
just stops you from enjoying the good."

 

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Hello list
I am sure I read or heard somewhere that Apple found a way to allow one to
play music to a bluetooth speaker without transfering the VoiceOver speech.
Was it just a dream?  
Was it just a dream?
Regards
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Hello list
I am sure I read or heard somewhere that Apple found a way to allow one to
play music to a bluetooth speaker without transfering the VoiceOver speech.
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Was it just a dream?
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Unsubscribing from apple music on one iDevice

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Hello List
Would unsubscribing from apple music on one iDevice also unsubscribe it on
one's other iDevices?
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RE: Can an iPhone user donate a free app

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Hello Daniel
No, I don't mind to speak English to Alexa. English is still one of the 
official languages and Siri can not understand our other languages but it is 
available on our iPhones so Amazon has no excuse not to let us have their app. 
Regards
Fanus


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Not sure on donating. Just use Alexa.amazon.com in any web browser and you will 
get some of the functionality from the Amazon Alexa App. For a while, they were 
sold in Canada with no official support of skills and local weather. They came 
to be properly supported in Canada as of the Echo Third Generation and later, 
released in 2018, so you probably have a long time to wait. The South African 
dialect is a complex one, as it has so many influences, africans to be curtain. 
Then all other south african official languages. See if the google home app is 
supported in South Africa. 
Daniel


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> Hello list
> I suppose the answer is no but I am just wondering. I need the Alexa app but
> it is not available in the South African app store. I find it strange and
> sad that I can purchase Amazon Echo products locally but their app is not
> available here.
> Regards
> Fanus
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Can an iPhone user donate a free app

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Hello list
I suppose the answer is no but I am just wondering. I need the Alexa app but
it is not available in the South African app store. I find it strange and
sad that I can purchase Amazon Echo products locally but their app is not
available here.
Regards
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RE: Annoying apple music issue

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Hello Mark
Just for interest sake. I tried to purchase an album from Amazon which I could 
not find in Apple Music but the only way to pay which they offer, is via USD, 
so they do not accept my SA credit card info. I can buy Kindle books and 
Audible books with my SA credit card and in January I purchased a radio without 
any problems. I suppose it is a music copyright thing.
Regards
Fanus


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M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 4:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Annoying apple music issue

Hello Fanus,

A subscription is not required to purchase either individual songs or entire 
albums from Amazon.com

I find that the prices of individual titles are identical to iTunes.  Album 
prices are usually comparable, also.  

To be clear, I download my music via Internet Explorer version 11, on a Windows 
7 32-bit PC.

I think Amazon offers some kind of desktop music download app but I found it 
extremely difficult to use with Jaws; however, this was some years ago and the 
desktop app may have improved since then.  

When it is all said and done, while I purchase all of my music from Amazon.com, 
I manage that content in iTunes for Windows.

Mark 

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Fanus Buys
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 1:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Annoying apple music issue

Hello Mark
Wow, Thanks for this. Can one just go to amazon and search for the album or 
does one have to be subscribed to their music service before one can make 
purchases? How do their prices compare with that of apple?
Regards
Fanus


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M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Annoying apple music issue

Hello Richard, Fanus, and Everyone,

Richard, I love your phrase, “tagging hell.”  That is exactly how I view the 
purchasing of iTunes music.

Earlier today, I decided to buy a new album.  For less than a nanno-second I 
considered purchasing it from iTunes, then I remembered all of the problems I 
have encountered, en the past, after having done so; some that you described 
very eloquently, Richard, and some even more daunting issues, that continue to 
occur, with those long ago purchased tracks.

I only purchase music from Amazon, via my web browser, on my Windows PC.  

The process is simple, straight-forward, and fast.  

For example, when purchasing an album on my PC, the broad strokes are:

1.
Go to Amazon.com and find the album.  Select the album to display the various 
formats, MP3, CD, Vinyl, etc.   Along with each format, you will see the 
purchase price.

2.
Select your format.  

3.
Purchase the Album.

4.
Select Download purchase.  The album will be downloaded to your PC in a Zip 
file.

5.
Unzip the file and you will see all of the album titles.

Now here is what I do to get my newly purchased album into iTunes; again the 
broad strokes, only.

6.
Open iTunes for Windows.

7.
Add all of the album titles to my iTunes Library, simultaneously.

8.
Select all of the newly purchased album titles and select New Playlist.

9.
Give the Playlist the same name of the Album.

10.
Sync the new playlist to my iOS device.

Again, just the broad strokes but, all things being equal, given that I’ve been 
using this method for about 7 years or so, it takes me less than 15 minutes to 
go from purchase to syncing songs to my iOS device.

Mark


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Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 5:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Annoying apple music issue

Welcome to the tagging hell that is classical music, as well as others, but 
classical is the worst. 
Since the internal tags of classical music often has different artists on some 
tracks, or different conductors, orchestras, etc., it gets crazy making.
But, look for a folder called Compilations.
Most of the time, these albums are marked as compilations so they will show up 
by either the album name, or conductor.
The tracks will also be scattered into different subfolders, but at least in 
the compilations folder they should be all together.

Richard
Qwawntine, qwawantine, is wot dwives us to dwinking, today.
Sent from the iPhone SE 2020


On Apr 27, 2020, at 5:38 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
Hello list
Even though I am subscribed to apple music I sometimes buy albums via itunes on 
my pc. Especially when it comes to classical music itunes saves the albums in 
the stranges places in the itunes music folder, sometimes under the album name, 
sometimes under the composer, sometimes even under the name of one of the 
artists. This also happens when I download music on my iPod in the music app. 
This morning I purchased an opera via iTunes

RE: Annoying apple music issue

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Mark
Wow, Thanks for this. Can one just go to amazon and search for the album or 
does one have to be subscribed to their music service before one can make 
purchases? How do their prices compare with that of apple?
Regards
Fanus


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Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Annoying apple music issue

Hello Richard, Fanus, and Everyone,

Richard, I love your phrase, “tagging hell.”  That is exactly how I view the 
purchasing of iTunes music.

Earlier today, I decided to buy a new album.  For less than a nanno-second I 
considered purchasing it from iTunes, then I remembered all of the problems I 
have encountered, en the past, after having done so; some that you described 
very eloquently, Richard, and some even more daunting issues, that continue to 
occur, with those long ago purchased tracks.

I only purchase music from Amazon, via my web browser, on my Windows PC.  

The process is simple, straight-forward, and fast.  

For example, when purchasing an album on my PC, the broad strokes are:

1.
Go to Amazon.com and find the album.  Select the album to display the various 
formats, MP3, CD, Vinyl, etc.   Along with each format, you will see the 
purchase price.

2.
Select your format.  

3.
Purchase the Album.

4.
Select Download purchase.  The album will be downloaded to your PC in a Zip 
file.

5.
Unzip the file and you will see all of the album titles.

Now here is what I do to get my newly purchased album into iTunes; again the 
broad strokes, only.

6.
Open iTunes for Windows.

7.
Add all of the album titles to my iTunes Library, simultaneously.

8.
Select all of the newly purchased album titles and select New Playlist.

9.
Give the Playlist the same name of the Album.

10.
Sync the new playlist to my iOS device.

Again, just the broad strokes but, all things being equal, given that I’ve been 
using this method for about 7 years or so, it takes me less than 15 minutes to 
go from purchase to syncing songs to my iOS device.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 5:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Annoying apple music issue

Welcome to the tagging hell that is classical music, as well as others, but 
classical is the worst. 
Since the internal tags of classical music often has different artists on some 
tracks, or different conductors, orchestras, etc., it gets crazy making.
But, look for a folder called Compilations.
Most of the time, these albums are marked as compilations so they will show up 
by either the album name, or conductor.
The tracks will also be scattered into different subfolders, but at least in 
the compilations folder they should be all together.

Richard
Qwawntine, qwawantine, is wot dwives us to dwinking, today.
Sent from the iPhone SE 2020


On Apr 27, 2020, at 5:38 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
Hello list
Even though I am subscribed to apple music I sometimes buy albums via itunes
on my pc. Especially when it comes to classical music itunes saves the
albums in the stranges places in the itunes music folder, sometimes under
the album name, sometimes under the composer, sometimes even under the name
of one of the artists. This also happens when I download music on my iPod in
the music app. This morning I purchased an opera via iTunes and now I can
not find where itunes stored it. A search in Windows 10 does not show any
results. Does anyone know how I can trace the album?
Regards
Fanus


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Annoying apple music issue

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
Even though I am subscribed to apple music I sometimes buy albums via itunes
on my pc. Especially when it comes to classical music itunes saves the
albums in the stranges places in the itunes music folder, sometimes under
the album name, sometimes under the composer, sometimes even under the name
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not find where itunes stored it. A search in Windows 10 does not show any
results. Does anyone know how I can trace the album?
Regards
Fanus


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height of scan stand for iPhone

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
I want to make my own stand but the only measurement I am not sure of is the
proper height above the page. What is the height to get the most accurate
result with an app like Seeing AI or VoiceDreamScanner?
Regards
Fanus


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RE: How to get to the file list in voicedream writer on ipad

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard
I could open the file manager but the filenames did not show but then I 
discovered a setting in advanced settings which I had to switch on and now the 
filenames do show. 

Do you know if there is a command to switch between files other than via the 
file manager?

Regards
Fanus


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Subject: RE: How to get to the file list in voicedream writer on ipad

Hi Fanis,
The File manager button is usually at the top left, at least on an iPhone.  I 
don't have an iPad.
The BT VoiceOver command to get to the top left is control+up arrow.
Then you could do control+options+right arrow to move to the right one item at 
a time in case it didn't land you on the file manager button.

I'm hoping that works the same on an iPad.  If it doesn't, you could write the 
developer directly at supp...@voicedream.com

I hope that works,



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Hello list
I can not figure this out. Please also say how to do it with bt keyboard.
The help document on the website does not give any commands.
Regards
Fanus




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How to get to the file list in voicedream writer on ipad

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
I can not figure this out. Please also say how to do it with bt keyboard.
The help document on the website does not give any commands.
Regards
Fanus




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RE: which text reader/writer

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Hello Richard
Thanks much. Do you perhaps know where one can download the manual. I 
downloaded a podcast from appleVis but that was done in 2015, so I am not sure 
how relevant is it.
Regards
Fanus


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Subject: RE: which text reader/writer

Yes.  Voice Dream Writer, $9.99.
It is way more advanced than AccessNote was.  It has a spell checker, search 
feature and you can use symbols to provide some formatting and export the file 
as RTF.
I highly recommend the person read the manual.




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Hello list
A friend asked me about this. According to him  access note does not work on 
newer iDevices or newer IOS versions. Apparently there was a search function in 
access note which created a list of all the search results so one could decide 
which one to read. Is there a replacement for access note with such a similar 
feature?
Regards
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which text reader/writer

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Hello list
A friend asked me about this. According to him  access note does not work on
newer iDevices or newer IOS versions. Apparently there was a search function
in access note which created a list of all the search results so one could
decide which one to read. Is there a replacement for access note with such a
similar feature?
Regards
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RE: Waltr2

[Fanus Buys]

Hello

I have the same experience so I then purchased iMazing and I couldn’t  get it 
to work as well, so quite a lot of money wasted.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 6:13 AM
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Subject: Re: Waltr2

 

Have you tried writing Jonathan Mosen? 

Maybe he had some Jaws settings different from the default?

 

 

 

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On Feb 17, 2020, at 7:55 PM, Joe Orozco  wrote:

Hi, I purchased Waltr2 on Jonathan Mosen’s recommendation on a recent
podcast. I couldn’t get the trial version to work, so I decided to
take a risk and upgrade to the full version. The software still does
not work with JAWS. I’m on the latest build of Windows 10, and for
whatever reason when I tab around the screen, the only thing I can
activate is the main sub menu with items like About, Check for
Updates, Support, etc. What are other people doing to make this thing
work? On the podcast, Jonathan was tabbing about just fine through the
various controls. I’m highly interested in replacing iTunes as a file
transfer source, so any suggestions on how to crack this accessibility
issue would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance!--Joe

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Home app and iCloud Key Chain

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Hello list
I am curious about the home app but after opening it it wants me to switch
Key Chain on. It shows "key chain off" and when I double tap I type my apple
password and then it asks for my passcode. After typing it it says 4
characters entered and after a while it jumps back and says "key chain off".
What am I missing? I have an iPhone 11 and the latest IOS version.
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RE: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but ....

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Thanks, I shall enquire. In settings I could change the measurement unit to 
KBPS.
Regards
Fanus


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That is an OK speed, if you continue to experience issues with downloading apps 
of any sort your provider must be blocking something and as I said before, you 
should ask them why this doesn't work when you are on your WiFi and why it 
worked instantly when you were connected to the WiFi at the store where you 
bought the iPad.


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Hello Sieghard
Thanks, I downloaded SpeedTest on my iPhone. It is interesting that the app 
gives the result in mega bits. I am used to kilo bytes and mega bytes. My 
result shows download speed = 12.3 mega bits which, if I am not mistaken, is 
1.53 mega bytes per second. In foreign countries this might be slow but here in 
SA a speed of 900 kbps or more is quite fast over a cell network. I use 
Internet Download Manager to download large files and it seldom shows more than 
900 KBPS, so this result of 1.53 MBPS is quite fast here. Or am I wrong with my 
calculation?
Regards
Fanus


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Hi Fanus,

You should take this up with your provider. Also I would recommend you do a 
Speedtest, either go to www.speedtest.net on your PC or, on your iPad Mini or 
iPhone download the Speedtest by Ookla app.
My Mom's WiFi is also from a smarthub via the cellular network and she has no 
problems downloading anything.

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Hello list
I managed to get a lift back to the iStore and guess what, the moment the 
assistant connected my Ipad mini 5 to their wifi all the native apps downloaded 
and installed. Now remember, with my wifi I could download third party apps 
like Audible, Kindle etc. and on my pc I can serve the net, download stuff and 
read new emails. So the funny thing: what setting or hardware aspect of my 
cellular wifi router prevents the native apps on the iPad to download and 
install. The guy at the iStore had no idea. Can one of the experts on the list 
think of a reason. I would like to know so that I can change my wifi settings 
or at least advise future users just to try a different network. I did insert 
the sim card into another router so the network provider is the same but the 
problem stayed. Well, at least my trip to the iStore was worth while so that I 
can now use my Ipad mini 5.
Regards and thanks for all the suggestions and assistance offered.
Fanus


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RE: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but ....

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Sieghard
Thanks, I downloaded SpeedTest on my iPhone. It is interesting that the app 
gives the result in mega bits. I am used to kilo bytes and mega bytes. My 
result shows download speed = 12.3 mega bits which, if I am not mistaken, is 
1.53 mega bytes per second. In foreign countries this might be slow but here in 
SA a speed of 900 kbps or more is quite fast over a cell network. I use 
Internet Download Manager to download large files and it seldom shows more than 
900 KBPS, so this result of 1.53 MBPS is quite fast here. Or am I wrong with my 
calculation?
Regards
Fanus


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Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 9:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but 

Hi Fanus,

You should take this up with your provider. Also I would recommend you do a 
Speedtest, either go to www.speedtest.net on your PC or, on your iPad Mini or 
iPhone download the Speedtest by Ookla app.
My Mom's WiFi is also from a smarthub via the cellular network and she has no 
problems downloading anything.

-Original Message-
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Buys
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 4:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but 

Hello list
I managed to get a lift back to the iStore and guess what, the moment the 
assistant connected my Ipad mini 5 to their wifi all the native apps downloaded 
and installed. Now remember, with my wifi I could download third party apps 
like Audible, Kindle etc. and on my pc I can serve the net, download stuff and 
read new emails. So the funny thing: what setting or hardware aspect of my 
cellular wifi router prevents the native apps on the iPad to download and 
install. The guy at the iStore had no idea. Can one of the experts on the list 
think of a reason. I would like to know so that I can change my wifi settings 
or at least advise future users just to try a different network. I did insert 
the sim card into another router so the network provider is the same but the 
problem stayed. Well, at least my trip to the iStore was worth while so that I 
can now use my Ipad mini 5.
Regards and thanks for all the suggestions and assistance offered.
Fanus


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