Re: Free Calendar App?

[K. Scott Carlson]

The calendar seems to work well as long as you're willing to use Siri to set up 
appointments. Finding the location field when editing an event can be tricky. 
But besides that, it's fairly straightforward.


> On Jul 8, 2021, at 2:28 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> That could be that you are in the Day Ticker, which is monumentally 
> frustrating.
> You want the month or just calendar view if you want to try and make sense of 
> it.
> 
> But like I said when I mentioned it, I switched back to the Native Calendar 
> app because I wasn't happy with the change in Fantastical and refuse to pay 
> their stupidly high fees for the honor of subscribing...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
> Web site: www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of K. 
> Scott Carlson
> Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2021 9:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Free Calendar App?
> 
> Man, I just installed Fantastical and I have no idea why everyone reaves 
> about it. It constantly flips around the screen and it's impossible to find 
> anything. Worse than the native Calendar app.
> 
>> On 7/5/21, Dave Clement  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> The app is called "vo calendar". It is a simple calendar app designed 
>> to work with Voiceover gestures. It displays the current week's events 
>> in a simple list format. At the bottomof the screen are four buttons:
>> "settings", "Other month", "previous week", and "next week".
>> 
>> Double tap on the day of the week to get a simple list of events for 
>> that day. At the end of the list of events is a "enter new event" 
>> button, a "back" button, and a "record memo" button.
>> 
>> Adding a new event will walk you through entering the partofthe day, 
>> the hour, the minutes, and a text description for the event.
>> 
>> Double tapping an event willallow you to alter the test description, 
>> the part of the day, the time,move the event to another day,or delete the 
>> event.
>> 
>> 
>> The app does not support repeating events, alarms,alerts,or reminders. 
>> It is a simple calendar app but it is very easy to use and integrates 
>> with your IOS calendar. Itcan be used along with the IOS calendar app 
>> or other calendar apps like FantastiCal.
>> 
>> I hope this helps.
>> 
>> Dave Clement
>> Winnipeg MB
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 5, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Maria Campbell  wrote:
>> 
>> This calendar is called Vo calendar in the app store?  Does it have 
>> the capability of audible alerts?  Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Maria Campbell
>> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>> 
>> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
>> --Edmund Burke
>> 
>>> On 7/4/2021 4:16 PM, Johnna Simmons wrote:
>>> VO calendar is the name of it It’s not free but it is a completely 
>>> accessible app. It is called a version of calendar. I believe it’s 
>>> only $10. But it works seamlessly with iOS and voiceover. It also 
>>> syncs with the native calendar app if you set it up that way
>>> 
>>> Johnna Simmons
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 3, 2021, at 7:59 AM, K. Scott Carlson 
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Are there any good free Calendar apps that will sync with multiple 
>>>> calendars? I find the regular Calendar app unbearably cumbersome, 
>>>> especially for adding events; just creating a single event can take 
>>>> several minutes. I'm not interested in paying for a monthly 
>>>> subscription for something like Fantastical.
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Re: Twitterific Not Authorizing

[K. Scott Carlson]

That happened to me as well, but it didn't fix the problem.

> On Jul 8, 2021, at 1:24 PM, Brett Campbell  wrote:
> 
> This happened to me not too long ago. I ended up fixing it by logging into 
> twitter online, and there was a message waiting for me to prove I’m not a 
> robot. After I did that, all was good again.
> 
> 
>> On Jul 8, 2021, at 9:59 AM, K. Scott Carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> I tried to log in to my Twitter account with Twitterific, but I keep getting 
>> a page that just says "nothing to see here" and Twitterific won't authorize.
>> 
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Re: Free Calendar App?

[K. Scott Carlson]

Man, I just installed Fantastical and I have no idea why everyone
reaves about it. It constantly flips around the screen and it's
impossible to find anything. Worse than the native Calendar app.

On 7/5/21, Dave Clement  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The app is called "vo calendar". It is a simple calendar app designed to
> work with Voiceover gestures. It displays the current week's events in a
> simple list format. At the bottomof the screen are four buttons:
> "settings", "Other month", "previous week", and "next week".
>
> Double tap on the day of the week to get a simple list of events for that
> day. At the end of the list of events is a "enter new event" button, a
> "back" button, and a "record memo" button.
>
> Adding a new event will walk you through entering the partofthe day, the
> hour, the minutes, and a text description for the event.
>
> Double tapping an event willallow you to alter the test description, the
> part of the day, the time,move the event to another day,or delete the event.
>
>
> The app does not support repeating events, alarms,alerts,or reminders. It is
> a simple calendar app but it is very easy to use and integrates with your
> IOS calendar. Itcan be used along with the IOS calendar app or other
> calendar apps like FantastiCal.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Dave Clement
> Winnipeg MB
>
>
> On Jul 5, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Maria Campbell  wrote:
>
> This calendar is called Vo calendar in the app store?  Does it have the
> capability of audible alerts?  Thanks.
>
>
>
> Maria Campbell
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>
> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
> --Edmund Burke
>
> On 7/4/2021 4:16 PM, Johnna Simmons wrote:
>> VO calendar is the name of it It’s not free but it is a completely
>> accessible app. It is called a version of calendar. I believe it’s only
>> $10. But it works seamlessly with iOS and voiceover. It also syncs with
>> the native calendar app if you set it up that way
>>
>> Johnna Simmons
>>
>>> On Jul 3, 2021, at 7:59 AM, K. Scott Carlson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Are there any good free Calendar apps that will sync with multiple
>>> calendars? I find the regular Calendar app unbearably cumbersome,
>>> especially for adding events; just creating a single event can take
>>> several minutes. I'm not interested in paying for a monthly subscription
>>> for something like Fantastical.
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Twitterific Not Authorizing

[K. Scott Carlson]

I tried to log in to my Twitter account with Twitterific, but I keep
getting a page that just says "nothing to see here" and Twitterific won't
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Re: Free Calendar App?

[K. Scott Carlson]

I haven't used To Do in awhile, but the last time I did it worked fine.

> On Jul 5, 2021, at 10:31 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Do you have Microsoft 365?
>  
> If so, you will get all features of the app.
> I have Microsoft 365 so I cannot speak to whether some features are 
> unavailable without having a subscription to Microsoft 365.
> I suspect you need to at least create a free Microsoft account, or is that 
> not true.  Again, I have all that so I cannot test it as if I didn’t without 
> logging out of my account and I just am too lazy right now to do that.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Monday, July 5, 2021 6:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Free Calendar App?
>  
> If anyone’s interested, I’d suggest checking this out yourselves, since I use 
> the Microsoft To Do application on my desktop and the To Do app on my iPhone, 
> and I’m not running into any limitations that I can see. Not only that, but I 
> find it to be the best to do list I’ve ever used. I find it very powerful and 
> yet intuitive and simple to use. It’s the only to do list tool I’ve ever 
> stuck with for these reasons. Like I said, if you’re interested, it’s a free 
> download and you may get more mileage out of it then Simon does.
>  
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Sunday, July 4, 2021 6:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Free Calendar App?
>  
> Michael,
>  
> To do is not a free app as such,
>  
> For  it to work you need to have paid for the to do feature within Microsoft 
> 365,
>  
> Otherwise to do is a frre app to install but has next to no functionality
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Michael Feir
> Sent: Sunday, 4 July 2021 12:40 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Free Calendar App?
>  
> If you haven't already, you might want to give Google Calendar a spin. They 
> put effort into making their software accessible. Microsoft has a free app 
> called Microsoft To Do but that's more for task management. There are tons of 
> calendar apps and there may be accessible ones undiscovered by blind people. 
> However, the only ones I know about are paid apps. Google Calendar is likely 
> the best bet for something accessible and totally free.
>  
> On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 7:59 AM K. Scott Carlson  
> wrote:
> Are there any good free Calendar apps that will sync with multiple calendars? 
> I find the regular Calendar app unbearably cumbersome, especially for adding 
> events; just creating a single event can take several minutes. I'm not 
> interested in paying for a monthly subscription for something like 
> Fantastical.
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Re: Free Calendar App?

[K. Scott Carlson]

Fantastical might be what I need; I'd just have to try the free version out. If 
anybody has tips for sticking with the Apple Calendar, though, that would be 
great.

> On Jul 3, 2021, at 9:34 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I don’t know if Fantastical is offering their basic version for free these 
> days; but I would never recommend subscribing as I think they are massively 
> over priced, but if you can use the basic for free, it allows you to write a 
> phrase like:
> “dr. smith, 10:30 AM, 07/21/2021, alert 1h”
> No quotes of course.
> The commas between each phrase cause it to put the parts of the appointment 
> in their proper fields.
> So the above would set an appointment for Dr. Smith on July 21, 2021 at 10:30 
> am with an alert 1 hour before.
>  
> It is just basic but it has the language parsing you were asking about.
>  
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
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>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of K. 
> Scott Carlson
> Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2021 6:23 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Free Calendar App?
>  
> Mostly what I'm looking for is something that has natural language parsing so 
> I don't for example have to manually scroll through every day of a month.
> 
> 
> On Jul 3, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Michael Feir  wrote:
> 
> 
> If you haven't already, you might want to give Google Calendar a spin. They 
> put effort into making their software accessible. Microsoft has a free app 
> called Microsoft To Do but that's more for task management. There are tons of 
> calendar apps and there may be accessible ones undiscovered by blind people. 
> However, the only ones I know about are paid apps. Google Calendar is likely 
> the best bet for something accessible and totally free.
>  
> On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 7:59 AM K. Scott Carlson  
> wrote:
> Are there any good free Calendar apps that will sync with multiple calendars? 
> I find the regular Calendar app unbearably cumbersome, especially for adding 
> events; just creating a single event can take several minutes. I'm not 
> interested in paying for a monthly subscription for something like 
> Fantastical.
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Re: Free Calendar App?

[K. Scott Carlson]

Mostly what I'm looking for is something that has natural language parsing so I 
don't for example have to manually scroll through every day of a month.

> On Jul 3, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Michael Feir  wrote:
> 
> 
> If you haven't already, you might want to give Google Calendar a spin. They 
> put effort into making their software accessible. Microsoft has a free app 
> called Microsoft To Do but that's more for task management. There are tons of 
> calendar apps and there may be accessible ones undiscovered by blind people. 
> However, the only ones I know about are paid apps. Google Calendar is likely 
> the best bet for something accessible and totally free.
> 
>> On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 7:59 AM K. Scott Carlson  
>> wrote:
>> Are there any good free Calendar apps that will sync with multiple 
>> calendars? I find the regular Calendar app unbearably cumbersome, especially 
>> for adding events; just creating a single event can take several minutes. 
>> I'm not interested in paying for a monthly subscription for something like 
>> Fantastical.
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Free Calendar App?

[K. Scott Carlson]

Are there any good free Calendar apps that will sync with multiple calendars? I 
find the regular Calendar app unbearably cumbersome, especially for adding 
events; just creating a single event can take several minutes. I'm not 
interested in paying for a monthly subscription for something like Fantastical.

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Voiceover Not Announcing Length of Songs on Lock Screen

[K. Scott Carlson]

Since iOS 14.3, Voiceover on the lock screen announces track position of a 
song, but doesn't include the total length of the song as it used to. Is this a 
bug, or has a setting been added that can change this?

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Re: Strange Text Message Notification Issue

[K. Scott Carlson]

I tested it, and it's not a Voiceover problem. I believe it occurs when I am in 
a media app. A message (or any other notification) will show up in the 
notification center, but not as a banner. The notification settings are normal. 
I assume this is the bug described, but I didn't notice it until recently, and 
I've had iOS 14 for awhile.

> On Mar 18, 2021, at 4:47 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> There is a known message notification bug in iOS 14, that has existed since 
> the release of 14.0.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Mar 18, 2021, at 15:45, R Van Lant  wrote:
> 
> I've missed a number of text messages recently. I'll have to watch for a 
> pattern.  I think I'm getting all my call, The only calls I have missed are 
> those that are likely spam. I just changed a setting to send all unknown 
> callers to voicemail.  With this setting, I did not hear the ;phone ring, but 
> got my normal voicemail indicator tone.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 1:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Cc: Richard Turner 
> Subject: Re: Strange Text Message Notification Issue
> 
> Seeing that others are experiencing the lack of alert tones & the phone not 
> ringing with incoming calls- The problem started after I installed the most 
> recent IOS update, 14.4.1. Anyone else notice this as a possible bug in this 
> version of IOS.
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> This has been happening to me as of late, but mine goes a little further. 
>> My phone sometimes doesn't ring when a call comes in. I'll notice the badge 
>> telling me that I have two new items in phone which will be the missed call 
>> and the voice mail message they left. This has been happening a lot as of 
>> late. And it also happens with text messages as well. It seems to be the 
>> native apps and not other apps like whatsapp and signal. Those sounds for 
>> those apps always come through.
>> 
>>> On 3/18/2021 2:31 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>> I just had my wife send me a text while listening to a book in Voice Dream 
>>> Reader.  VoiceOver announced the text message, but there was no text sound.
>>> 
>>> Do yu have VoiceOver set to not speak notifications?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
>>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of K. 
>>> Scott Carlson
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 5:39 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Strange Text Message Notification Issue
>>> 
>>> I am finding that when I am in an app that plays media, like Youtube or 
>>> VoiceDream, and the screen is unlocked, I do not receive any notifications 
>>> of text messages I am receiving. Is this a bug, and has anyone else 
>>> encountered it?
>>> 
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Re: Strange Text Message Notification Issue

[K. Scott Carlson]

No, speak notifications is turned on. VO isn't even reading the texts.

> On Mar 18, 2021, at 3:31 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I just had my wife send me a text while listening to a book in Voice Dream 
> Reader.  VoiceOver announced the text message, but there was no text sound.
> 
> Do yu have VoiceOver set to not speak notifications?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> I am finding that when I am in an app that plays media, like Youtube or 
> VoiceDream, and the screen is unlocked, I do not receive any notifications of 
> text messages I am receiving. Is this a bug, and has anyone else encountered 
> it?
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Strange Text Message Notification Issue

[K. Scott Carlson]

I am finding that when I am in an app that plays media, like Youtube or 
VoiceDream, and the screen is unlocked, I do not receive any notifications of 
text messages I am receiving. Is this a bug, and has anyone else encountered it?

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Re: M4B Files

[K. Scott Carlson]

The one I have is not DRM protected from what I can tell.

On 2/14/21, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> The below came from this site:
>
> https://fileinfo.com/extension/m4b
>
> What is an M4B file?
>
> An M4B file is an audiobook most often used by Apple iTunes and Apple Books.
> It contains audio that is stored in the MPEG-4 format and compressed using
> AAC encoding. M4B files are nearly identical to .M4A files except that they
> support book-related features, such as chapter breaks and bookmarking.
>
> I don't have any m4b files to test whether they will play in Voice Dream
> Reader. If they are protected with DRM, they certainly won't play in Voice
> Dream.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of K. Scott Carlson
> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 7:45 PM
> To: viphone
> Subject: M4B Files
>
> Does anybody know how to play files in this format on the iphone? Can
> VoiceDream Reader proces them?
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M4B Files

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Does anybody know how to play files in this format on the iphone? Can
VoiceDream Reader proces them?

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Strange Pronunciation Issues

[K. Scott Carlson]

I'm encountering a couple of pronunciation issues with VO I can't account for. 
First, it is now always pronouncing "re:" as "regarding". Second, even though I 
have my punctuation level set to some, it is not pronouncing many of the 
symbols included in that level, such as underscores and slashes. I'm using iOS 
14.2 on an iPhone 7.

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Re: Free Calendar Apps

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I thought Fantastical only had a free trial and not an actual free tier?

> On Nov 24, 2020, at 10:32 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, have you checked out Fantastical?
> If you ignore/refuse to do the subscription, which is stupidly expensive, the 
> basic calendar works well and you can type sentences kind of to enter 
> appointments.
> For example, in the create an appointment field you could write, Zoom 
> meeting, 11/30/2020, from 9Am to 10AM
> And hit add and it would put the title as Zoom Meeting, it would put it on 
> November 30, from 9 to 10 AM.
> I think they have made the basic version free.
> 
> And, it basically puts the information in the native calendar but displays it 
> a bit differently, especially if you pick the month view, then the upper half 
> of the screen is laid out like a wall calendar, or a braille calendar.
> The lower have has your reminders and appointments.
> When you touch a day on the month view, you will hear, November 30, 1 
> appointment, or however many you have.
> 
> I stopped using it because I have gotten used to the native calendar's new 
> idiosyncrasies, but it might meet your needs.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> *I’m not the card shark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of K. 
> Scott Carlson
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Free Calendar Apps
> 
> I find the default iOS calendar app extremely cumbersome due to how long it 
> takes to create events. I'm looking for a simple alternative which will, at 
> the least, let you type in the start and end times of events. I don't 
> particularly feel like paying a subscription fee for a calendar, so something 
> free or inexpensive would be great.
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Free Calendar Apps

[K. Scott Carlson]

I find the default iOS calendar app extremely cumbersome due to how long it 
takes to create events. I'm looking for a simple alternative which will, at the 
least, let you type in the start and end times of events. I don't particularly 
feel like paying a subscription fee for a calendar, so something free or 
inexpensive would be great.

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Altering the Screen During Calls Back to the Full Screen View

[K. Scott Carlson]

I can't find instructions on how to do this; does anyone know? I think it 
effects other things, such as renaming documents in the files app.

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Re: Strange Beeping and Repeated Text

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Richard's tip worked; turning the sound for detect text off worked.

> On Nov 15, 2020, at 4:46 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Kathy, that is what I thought.
> In my first reply, I said to check under audio, sound the VO settings.
> Then someone said the VoiceOver recognition was in the 7.
> Glad to know the feature has a similar name, but in fact is under audio, 
> sounds, not VO recognition on older phones.
> Later,
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> Software means never having to say you're finished 
> 
> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 1:30 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> My iPod touch seventh generation doesn’t have the voice recognition option 
>> after braille, so after exploration what I did was:
>> Settings/accessibility/voiceover/audio/sound/detected text and images; I 
>> hear no beeps after turning sound to off.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Dave Clement  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello, 
>>> 
>>> I believe that if an iphone 7 is being used, the Voiceover Recognition 
>>> features are not available and I don't believe the option even shows up in 
>>> Settings. It does not do so on my iphone 8 running IOS 14.2. Apple says 
>>> that the VO Recognition feature only works on iphone 10R or 10S or newer. 
>>> 
>>> If this is incorrect, please let me know how to do it as I would like to 
>>> use these new features. I have heard of some iphone 8 owners being able to 
>>> use the features but I can't on my iphone 8. 
>>> 
>>> Dave Clement
>>> Winnipeg MB
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 3:13 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  If it is on the iPhone 7, it is in the setting called VoiceOver 
>>> Recognition.  On my SE 2020 it is immediately after braille settings. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
>>> Edward Herbert
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 12:46 PM, K. Scott Carlson  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It's not directly in the Voicever settings on my phone; is it in a 
>>>> submenu?
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 10:19 AM, Donna Casteen  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> This feature is called text recognition & can be turned off in 
>>>>> accessibility under voiceover. IPhone 7 does have this feature.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't see this setting anywhere, and I don't think it is available on 
>>>>>> the iPhone 7. Could it be something else?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Chris Chaffin  
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is a new feature of iOS 14 called VoiceOver Recognition. There are 
>>>>>>> three parts to this setting, and text recognition is turned on by 
>>>>>>> default. The setting can be found under Accessibility / VoiceOver / 
>>>>>>> VoiceOver Recognition. I believe you can find more information and even 
>>>>>>> a podcast about it on AppleVis.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 8:14 AM, K. Scott Carlson 
>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ever since I updated to iOS 14, after VoiceOver stops speaking on the 
>>>>>>>> screen, occasionally I hear a beep and it speaks some text on a 
>>>>>>>> different part of the screen. I've gone into settings, but have no 
>>>>>>>> idea what this could be.
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Re: Strange Beeping and Repeated Text

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It's not directly in the Voicever settings on my phone; is it in a submenu?

> On Nov 15, 2020, at 10:19 AM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> 
> This feature is called text recognition & can be turned off in accessibility 
> under voiceover. IPhone 7 does have this feature.
> 
> Donna
> 
> 
>> 
>> I don't see this setting anywhere, and I don't think it is available on the 
>> iPhone 7. Could it be something else?
>> 
>>>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is a new feature of iOS 14 called VoiceOver Recognition. There are 
>>> three parts to this setting, and text recognition is turned on by default. 
>>> The setting can be found under Accessibility / VoiceOver / VoiceOver 
>>> Recognition. I believe you can find more information and even a podcast 
>>> about it on AppleVis.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 8:14 AM, K. Scott Carlson  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ever since I updated to iOS 14, after VoiceOver stops speaking on the 
>>>> screen, occasionally I hear a beep and it speaks some text on a different 
>>>> part of the screen. I've gone into settings, but have no idea what this 
>>>> could be.
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Re: Strange Beeping and Repeated Text

[K. Scott Carlson]

I don't see this setting anywhere, and I don't think it is available on the 
iPhone 7. Could it be something else?

> On Nov 15, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> 
> This is a new feature of iOS 14 called VoiceOver Recognition. There are three 
> parts to this setting, and text recognition is turned on by default. The 
> setting can be found under Accessibility / VoiceOver / VoiceOver Recognition. 
> I believe you can find more information and even a podcast about it on 
> AppleVis.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 8:14 AM, K. Scott Carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> Ever since I updated to iOS 14, after VoiceOver stops speaking on the 
>> screen, occasionally I hear a beep and it speaks some text on a different 
>> part of the screen. I've gone into settings, but have no idea what this 
>> could be.
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Strange Beeping and Repeated Text

[K. Scott Carlson]

Ever since I updated to iOS 14, after VoiceOver stops speaking on the screen, 
occasionally I hear a beep and it speaks some text on a different part of the 
screen. I've gone into settings, but have no idea what this could be.

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Creating MP3 Files from Books in VoiceDream Reader

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I seem to remember it being possible to take a book in VoiceDream Reader and 
export it to an MP3 file, but I can't find the feature. Am I mistaken about 
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Not Seeing Dropbox in Files App

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I recently had to uninstall my Dropbox app and reinstall it. Once it was 
reinstalled, I no longer see it in my Files app. How can I get it back?

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Challenging Gesture Games

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Are there any games like Simon or Bop It for the iPhone that are about quickly 
matching gestures or solving puzzles? I already know about Blindfold Bop but 
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Re: Countdown timer wanted

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I haven't updated to iOS 14, so I can't confirm that. One more reason to wait 
awhile.

> On Oct 11, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I thought I remember hearing that iOS 14 was supposed to add the ability to 
> set multiple timers, but I just tried it and it certainly does not work.
> I think that should be a fairly easy and basic thing for Apple to do, both 
> Amazon Alexa and Google Assistant can do this and we do it all the time when 
> we are cooking using our Google speaker.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
> Stone
> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 10:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Countdown timer wanted
> 
> In quite prepared to be wrong, but Timeless doesn’t seem to work with ios14.
> 
>> On 11 Oct 2020, at 13:52, K. Scott Carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> i use Timeglass, which is pretty good.
>> 
>>>> On Oct 9, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for this, it’s exactly what I’m looking for.
>>> 
>>>>> On 9 Oct 2020, at 22:10, dean martineau  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have one called Timer+. It’s totally accessible. The paid version is 
>>>> $2.50, and is supposed to remove ads, but voiceover doesn’t detect the ads 
>>>> anyway. The only drawback, if it’s important to you, is that you can’t 
>>>> create shortcuts to keep individual timers. But you can run them from 
>>>> within the app with no problem.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 9, 2020, at 5:01 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I’m looking for a countdown timer which supports multiple timers. Does 
>>>> anyone have any recommendations?
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Re: Countdown timer wanted

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i use Timeglass, which is pretty good.

> On Oct 9, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
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> Thanks for this, it’s exactly what I’m looking for.
> 
>> On 9 Oct 2020, at 22:10, dean martineau  wrote:
>> 
>> I have one called Timer+. It’s totally accessible. The paid version is 
>> $2.50, and is supposed to remove ads, but voiceover doesn’t detect the ads 
>> anyway. The only drawback, if it’s important to you, is that you can’t 
>> create shortcuts to keep individual timers. But you can run them from within 
>> the app with no problem.
>> 
>> On Oct 9, 2020, at 5:01 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
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>> I’m looking for a countdown timer which supports multiple timers. Does 
>> anyone have any recommendations?
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Re: iCloud for Windows

[K. Scott Carlson]

I got the program installed awhile ago, but I could never get it to download 
everything; it downloaded some of the files and then just stopped.

> On Oct 11, 2020, at 12:32 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> The Microsoft store version is also from Apple just like any of the microsoft 
> apps you can get for the iPhone from the Apple App Store are from Microsoft.
> I just found that the desktop version you can download from Apple is not at 
> all accessible whereas the Microsoft Store version is somewhat accessible.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mickey 
> Quenzer
> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:20 AM
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> Subject: Re: iCloud for Windows
>  
> Are they different programs? I don’t understand why you would download the 
> Microsoft store app instead of the app that comes directly from Apple. can 
> you give us information about why are you feel it’s better to download this 
> app from the windows 10 App Store?
>  
>  
> *** MQ ***
> ***270-776-9871 ***
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
> Sieghard Weitzel 
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> Definitely download the Windows 10 app from the Microsoft Store, it is more 
> accessible.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andrew 
> Roberts
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> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I would like to instal iCloud for Windows on my Windows 10 PC, even though I 
> appreciate it isn't all that accessible.  I have 3 reasons for wanting to do 
> this:-
> 
> First, I would like access to my iCloud inbox within Microsoft Outlook 
> Second, I would like access to both my iCloud calendar and my iCloud contacts 
> on my Windows PC And third, I would like access to my files on iCloud drive 
> on my Windows PC.
> 
> Can anyone please advise me whether I am best to download the version of 
> iCloud from the Apple website which is apparently for Windows 7 or Windows 8, 
> or whether I should download the Windows 10 app from the Microsoft Store?  
> Whichever I download, is anyone able to advise the best way of accessing the 
> different options available in that programme?
> 
> Many thanks in advance for any help you can give.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Andrew 
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Searching in the Files App

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I would like to search a particular folder in iCloud drive for all the PDF 
files it contains. When I go to the search field and type .pdf, it says there 
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subfolders within it that all contain the PDFs. The Dropbox app doesn't have 
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VO and Bluetooth Speakers in iOS 14

[K. Scott Carlson]

I was under the impression that there would be an easier way to have VO speech 
output through the iPhone's speakers while other audio was playing on a 
Bluetooth device in iOS 14. I haven't seen anything about this on AppleVis; 
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Re: Syncing Music from iTunes Library to iPhone

[K. Scott Carlson]

I don't think anyone should have to pay $40 to sync music to their phone, 
something any sighted person can do. And I have enough music that I can't just 
keep adding stuff to my phone; I have to rotate it.

> On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:16 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> I have sub-folders for bands and genres, such as heavy metal and jazz.
> I have added music to my iPhone over time so the burden of adding
> individual albums to my iTunes library is not too taxing at any one
> session.  Some bands are timeless. Now that my Grateful Dead and
> Metallica albums are on my iPhone, I am not taking them off. I can
> listen to these bands over and over again.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8/28/20, K. Scott Carlson  wrote:
>> I have hundreds of gigs of music, so that is impossible. The last version of
>> iTunes I had didn't do this but I don't recall what it was now.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 28, 2020, at 12:58 AM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  I just sync everything.
>>> I agree the way you get dumped back to the top when trying to select only
>>> certain things isidiotic.
>>> Some people say that Waltr2 is easier to use to sync music to your iPhone.
>>> I think it around $40, but I think everyone should be writing Apple and
>>> complaining about the problem when you would want to only sync a portion
>>> of your library.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
>>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
>>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
>>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
>>> Edward Herbert
>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 27, 2020, at 5:13 PM, K. Scott Carlson 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> iPhone 7 with iOS 13.6, Windows 10 with NVDA. I am wondering if there is
>>>> an easy way to sync songs from my iTunes library on to my iPhone. I say
>>>> "easy way" because: 1) I can't search through my list of albums, and (2)
>>>> checking an album returns me immediately to the top of the list. I have
>>>> thousands of albums, so this is a big problem.
>>>> 
>>>> I do not currently have Apple Music so my library is not in the cloud.
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Re: Syncing Music from iTunes Library to iPhone

[K. Scott Carlson]

I have hundreds of gigs of music, so that is impossible. The last version of 
iTunes I had didn't do this but I don't recall what it was now.



> On Aug 28, 2020, at 12:58 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  I just sync everything.
> I agree the way you get dumped back to the top when trying to select only 
> certain things isidiotic.
> Some people say that Waltr2 is easier to use to sync music to your iPhone. I 
> think it around $40, but I think everyone should be writing Apple and 
> complaining about the problem when you would want to only sync a portion of 
> your library.
>  
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
>>> On Aug 27, 2020, at 5:13 PM, K. Scott Carlson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> iPhone 7 with iOS 13.6, Windows 10 with NVDA. I am wondering if there is an 
>> easy way to sync songs from my iTunes library on to my iPhone. I say "easy 
>> way" because: 1) I can't search through my list of albums, and (2) checking 
>> an album returns me immediately to the top of the list. I have thousands of 
>> albums, so this is a big problem.
>> 
>> I do not currently have Apple Music so my library is not in the cloud.
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Syncing Music from iTunes Library to iPhone

[K. Scott Carlson]

iPhone 7 with iOS 13.6, Windows 10 with NVDA. I am wondering if there is an 
easy way to sync songs from my iTunes library on to my iPhone. I say "easy way" 
because: 1) I can't search through my list of albums, and (2) checking an album 
returns me immediately to the top of the list. I have thousands of albums, so 
this is a big problem.

I do not currently have Apple Music so my library is not in the cloud.

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Re: Disabling CloudSync in VoiceDream Writer

[K. Scott Carlson]

I tried that, but it still says iCloud enabled and tries to sync files.

> On Aug 27, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> In the main iPhone settings, go to Writer, and you will find you have a 
> choice between, iCloud, OneDrive, and iPhone for the storage.
> I assume OneDrive might only show up if you have it installed, not sure.
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of K. 
> Scott Carlson
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Disabling CloudSync in VoiceDream Writer
> 
> Is there a way to do this? I turned it on long ago but now I can't get it to 
> turn off. Disabling iCloud in iPhone main settings didn't help.
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Disabling CloudSync in VoiceDream Writer

[K. Scott Carlson]

Is there a way to do this? I turned it on long ago but now I can't get it to 
turn off. Disabling iCloud in iPhone main settings didn't help.

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Telegram

[K. Scott Carlson]

Does anyone use this app? I am finding it difficult to use because I can't 
easily scroll through threads, but I'd really like to be able to use it as most 
of my family does.

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Re: Creating Events Quickly in iOS Calendar

[K. Scott Carlson]

If you download FantastiCal now, you get a free trial and then have to 
subscribe. Sounds like if you already have the app, you don't have to 
subscribe, which doesn't seem all that fair.

> On Aug 13, 2020, at 4:44 PM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> 
> Yes, all these commands work really well.
> Alison
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: 13 August 2020 17:15
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Creating Events Quickly in iOS Calendar
> 
> For the Calendar, try a command like: Hey Siri create an appointment titled 
> Dr. Pain at 3 PM on September 8th.
> Or, Hey Siri, create an 2 hour appointment titled Spa treatment on August 
> 20th at 2 PM.
> Or, Hey Siri, remind me at 5 PM to start dinner.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
> alvarado
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 7:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Creating Events Quickly in iOS Calendar
> 
> I have tried using siri to put things on the calendar. It never works for me. 
> Can someone tell me the sequence to give siri the contents of the event 
> please? How do I set the two reminders with Siri?
> 
> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
> On Aug 13, 2020, at 10:24 AM, K. Scott Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Using type with Siri and keeping hey Siri on makes for a great combination; 
> you can very easily create complex events without Siri misunderstanding what 
> you are saying. This--as far as I can tell--replicates FantastiCal without 
> the price. Thanks to those who figured out this solution.
> 
>> On 8/12/20, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> I do that in Reminders with Siri all the time.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of John Panarese
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 4:59 PM
>> To: 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Re: Creating Events Quickly in iOS Calendar
>> 
>> If you use SIRI to create events, it actually is pretty easy.
>> 
>> Schedule and event on August 15 at 2 PM titled, dentist appointment,
>> 
>> For example.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
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>>> On Aug 12, 2020, at 4:56 PM, K. Scott Carlson 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to make better use of my calendar, but I find the iOS 
>>> calendar takes forever to use. Adding an event, especially at a 
>>> location, takes so much time it is almost not worth it. I know 
>>> FantastiCal has excellent natural language support; at one time I 
>>> think it was a one-time purchase, but now it is a subscription-based 
>>> model and I really don't like subscription apps outside of streaming.
>>> Are there any ways to speed up adding calendar events to the normal 
>>> iOS calendar, or any other free/one-time purchase apps that have more 
>>> robust natural language input or are just more efficient?
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Re: Creating Events Quickly in iOS Calendar

[K. Scott Carlson]

Using type with Siri and keeping hey Siri on makes for a great
combination; you can very easily create complex events without Siri
misunderstanding what you are saying. This--as far as I can
tell--replicates FantastiCal without the price. Thanks to those who
figured out this solution.

On 8/12/20, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> I do that in Reminders with Siri all the time.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of John Panarese
> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 4:59 PM
> To: 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Creating Events Quickly in iOS Calendar
>
>   If you use SIRI to create events, it actually is pretty easy.
>
> Schedule and event on August 15 at 2 PM titled, dentist appointment,
>
> For example.
>
>
> Take Care
>
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
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> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
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>> On Aug 12, 2020, at 4:56 PM, K. Scott Carlson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm trying to make better use of my calendar, but I find the iOS calendar
>> takes forever to use. Adding an event, especially at a location, takes so
>> much time it is almost not worth it. I know FantastiCal has excellent
>> natural language support; at one time I think it was a one-time purchase,
>> but now it is a subscription-based model and I really don't like
>> subscription apps outside of streaming. Are there any ways to speed up
>> adding calendar events to the normal iOS calendar, or any other
>> free/one-time purchase apps that have more robust natural language input
>> or are just more efficient?
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Re: Creating Events Quickly in iOS Calendar

[K. Scott Carlson]

Agreed; even Todoist, which looks like a great task canager, has not inflated 
subscription price.

> On Aug 12, 2020, at 5:04 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  As John said, using Siri is the quickest.
> If you do not use Siri either by voice or Type To Siri, It is a slow process.
> I lknowLed Fantastical 2 when it was a one-time purchase, but no calendaring 
> a£p is worth $4.99 per month.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
>>> On Aug 12, 2020, at 1:56 PM, K. Scott Carlson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I'm trying to make better use of my calendar, but I find the iOS calendar 
>> takes forever to use. Adding an event, especially at a location, takes so 
>> much time it is almost not worth it. I know FantastiCal has excellent 
>> natural language support; at one time I think it was a one-time purchase, 
>> but now it is a subscription-based model and I really don't like 
>> subscription apps outside of streaming. Are there any ways to speed up 
>> adding calendar events to the normal iOS calendar, or any other 
>> free/one-time purchase apps that have more robust natural language input or 
>> are just more efficient?
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Creating Events Quickly in iOS Calendar

[K. Scott Carlson]

Hello,

I'm trying to make better use of my calendar, but I find the iOS calendar takes 
forever to use. Adding an event, especially at a location, takes so much time 
it is almost not worth it. I know FantastiCal has excellent natural language 
support; at one time I think it was a one-time purchase, but now it is a 
subscription-based model and I really don't like subscription apps outside of 
streaming. Are there any ways to speed up adding calendar events to the normal 
iOS calendar, or any other free/one-time purchase apps that have more robust 
natural language input or are just more efficient?

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Re: shopping for mobile plans

[K. Scott Carlson]

There is a plan called MintMobile, which is an MVNO run by T-mobile, that 
offers 12 GB of data for $25 a month; you just have to pay for a number of 
months in advance. I haven't tried it but I'm considering switching.

> On Jul 22, 2020, at 11:39 AM, Jeff Samco  wrote:
> 
>  You need to find where Party Pay is described. If you are part of a Party 
> of 4 then the monthly charge is a flat $25. Reddit has a group where people 
> post openings in their Party Pay group. It took me about 10 minutes to find 
> an open group, submit my name and get approval that I had joined.
> 
> As for the slowdown in data, yes, that is one of the two drawbacks in the 
> Visible service. I was particularly drawn to the unlimited hotspot  feature 
> and I have not been  disappointed.
> HTH,
> Jeff
> 
> At 02:47 PM 7/20/2020, you wrote:
>> Hi Jeff,
>> I went to the site and it says a new member would pay $25 for the first 
>> month then $40 after that and your speeds maybe throttles down at times. 
>> Here below is what it says on the sight. 
>> +For a limited time only. $25 First Month Offer begins 10/22/19. For new 
>> Visible members only. New members receive first month of phone service for 
>> $25; thereafter $40/mo applies. Subject to Visible Customer Agmt.
>> *In times of traffic, your data may be temporarily slower than other 
>> traffic. 
>>  
>> So unless I missed something it is going to be $40 a month after the first 
>> month. On Consumer Cellular you can get unlimited talk and text with 3 gig 
>> of data for $30 a month. 
>> You can also get 250 talk minutes with unlimited text and 500 mb of data for 
>> $20 a month. If you go over they move you up to the next level for no extra 
>> charge. Then you can move it down again the next month. Their app is totally 
>> accessible.
>> Give them a call as they have the number one best tech support and they can 
>> tell you all about it.
>> I have been with them for years. 
>> Mr. Ed
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Jeff Samco
>> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 11:36 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: shopping for mobile plans
>>  
>> Sorry for the delayed reply. I find the chat service through their 
>> Visible.com website on a Windows laptop to be a bit querky.  Each time I use 
>> it I have to figure it out again; the rest of the session goes smoothly 
>> enough.
>> 
>> At 10:55 PM 7/16/2020, you wrote:
>> 
>> And the chat feature for Visible is accessible? How does it work? 
>> 
>> Arnold 
>> 
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
>> 
>> On Jul 17, 2020, at 1:35 AM, Jeff Samco  wrote:
>> 
>> I recently helped a family member sign up at a Verizon store for pre-pay 
>> service. After the first month, which inclujded a set up fee of $10 or so, 
>> it is $30.30 for unlimited calls and text, and 1GB of data even  though the 
>> rep said it would be  500 MB.
>> 
>> I personally use Visible.com. Go to their website and they only offer one 
>> plan and it is described very clearly. Also read reviews to make sure you 
>> can live with the  very slight  drawbacks. I love the service and only pay 
>> $25 monthly for unlimited calls, text, data and hotspot. It uses the Verizon 
>> network.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> At 07:36 PM 7/16/2020, you wrote:
>> 
>> Is it just me, or have cell phone carriers made it ridiculously hard to find 
>> out how much plans cost?  I‬™m currently on Verizon with my new unlocked 
>> SE 2020 and want to loook at potentially switching. I cannot even figure out 
>> T-Mobile’s site, even with the accessibility mode turned on. Same with 
>> VVerizon̢۪s site. It̢۪s like theyke they are hiding the various pricing 
>> on calling plans.   Am I missing something?  For those who have shopped 
>> around, what is your method?  I̢۪m inclined to go to a store to at least 
>> get so some answers, but haven̢۪t had the time.  
>> 
>> Any advice is appreciated.  I looked at Xfinity Mobile, which is at least 
>> easier to navigate, but it looks like you have to have their internet 
>> service, which I do not. 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
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Re: Playing Voiceover through Phone While Speaker is Connected

[K. Scott Carlson]

Strange—I feel like on Jonathan Mosen's podcast he mentioned this was already 
possible, but perhaps not.

> On Jul 17, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  It's a great speaker for its size.
> But no I was saying that I don't think you will get the VoiceOver voice over 
> the phone even on an external speaker.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
>>> On Jul 17, 2020, at 5:05 PM, K. Scott Carlson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> It's quite a good speaker for its size. Do you mean the "audio destination" 
>> option doesn't work at all, or just with that speaker? What will the method 
>> be in iOS 14?
>> 
>>> On Jul 17, 2020, at 7:10 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  There will be an easier way in iOS 14.
>>> Right now, I don't think that works.
>>> I have that same speaker.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
>>> Edward Herbert
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 17, 2020, at 4:07 PM, K. Scott Carlson  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I know there is a way to do this, and I have the "audio destination" 
>>>> option on the rotor selected. However, if I am connected to my bluetooth 
>>>> speaker, the option isn't there. I'm using an older Urge Soundbrick Plus, 
>>>> so perhaps it just doesn't do that with older speakers? Help is 
>>>> appreciated.
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Re: Playing Voiceover through Phone While Speaker is Connected

[K. Scott Carlson]

It's quite a good speaker for its size. Do you mean the "audio destination" 
option doesn't work at all, or just with that speaker? What will the method be 
in iOS 14?

> On Jul 17, 2020, at 7:10 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  There will be an easier way in iOS 14.
> Right now, I don't think that works.
> I have that same speaker.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
>>> On Jul 17, 2020, at 4:07 PM, K. Scott Carlson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> I know there is a way to do this, and I have the "audio destination" option 
>> on the rotor selected. However, if I am connected to my bluetooth speaker, 
>> the option isn't there. I'm using an older Urge Soundbrick Plus, so perhaps 
>> it just doesn't do that with older speakers? Help is appreciated.
>> 
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Playing Voiceover through Phone While Speaker is Connected

[K. Scott Carlson]

I know there is a way to do this, and I have the "audio destination" option on 
the rotor selected. However, if I am connected to my bluetooth speaker, the 
option isn't there. I'm using an older Urge Soundbrick Plus, so perhaps it just 
doesn't do that with older speakers? Help is appreciated.

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Panning with focus 40

[K. Scott Carlson]

Is there any way to reverse the left/right panning buttonswith the Focus 40 
Blue 5th Generation? I can't find a setting in the Braille Accessibility 
Settings that allows for this. 

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Re: Syncing Local Music Files to iPhone

[K. Scott Carlson]

I don't want to delete things from my iTunes library; I just want to get them 
off my phone and not have them re-sync automatically. Deleting and then 
re-adding would take just as much time as going through and manually 
un-checking everything I no longer wanted synced.

> On Jul 10, 2020, at 2:11 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> Please re-read my earlier message. I did not suggest deleting music
> from your phone. I suggested deleting music from your library, which
> is managed through iTunes on your computer. In iTunes, music can be
> sorted by album or artist. Instead of deleting each album separately,
> you can delete an entire artist in iTunes. This will vanquish all the
> music and albums from that artist. When your phone is synched to your
> computer, the music will be gone.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 7/10/20, K. Scott Carlson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>> I know I can delete things from my phone; the problem is that if I want to
>>> re-sync through iTunes, which I have to do with my music library, I have
>>> to uncheck the box for the things I already deleted manually. If you have
>>> a lot of albums, this is a giant pain, but I've found no way around it.n
>>> Jul 10, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Delete an entire artist from your iTunes library. This will delete all
>>> the albums by that artist from your library.  Yes, you may have to
>>> choose between the discographies of Metallica and Motley Crue, but for
>>> me it is not a hard choice.  Apple’s biggest scam is charging $100 for
>>> the middle tier of memory on its phones. I had a choice of 64 or 128
>>> gigabytes. 64 extra gigs did not cost Apple anything close to $100.
>>> The lowest size phones are a pricing gimmick.
>>> 
>>> Kelly
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 7/10/20, K. Scott Carlson  wrote:
>>>> Hello, I have a major issue with regards to syncing albums onto my
>>>> iPhone
>>>> from my local iTunes library. I have a large amount of music, and not all
>>>> of
>>>> it can fit on my phone at once. The big issue I have run into is that, if
>>>> I
>>>> want to get rid of all of my albums and sync different ones, there is no
>>>> way
>>>> to do this quickly. If I turn off the sync feature, everything is
>>>> deleted;
>>>> but if I turn it back on, the albums I had previously selected in the
>>>> "music" tab in the iPhone settings in iTunes are still checked. I have to
>>>> go
>>>> through and uncheck each album individually, which takes a tremendously
>>>> long
>>>> time. I don't have wi-fi at the moment, so iTunes match isn't an option
>>>> as I
>>>> have no way to upload the music; and I'm not planning on getting an
>>>> Apple
>>>> Music/Spotify subscription right now. Can anyone offer any advice?
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Re: Syncing Local Music Files to iPhone

[K. Scott Carlson]

> 
> I know I can delete things from my phone; the problem is that if I want to 
> re-sync through iTunes, which I have to do with my music library, I have to 
> uncheck the box for the things I already deleted manually. If you have a lot 
> of albums, this is a giant pain, but I've found no way around it.n Jul 10, 
> 2020, at 1:22 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> Delete an entire artist from your iTunes library. This will delete all
> the albums by that artist from your library.  Yes, you may have to
> choose between the discographies of Metallica and Motley Crue, but for
> me it is not a hard choice.  Apple’s biggest scam is charging $100 for
> the middle tier of memory on its phones. I had a choice of 64 or 128
> gigabytes. 64 extra gigs did not cost Apple anything close to $100.
> The lowest size phones are a pricing gimmick.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 7/10/20, K. Scott Carlson  wrote:
>> Hello, I have a major issue with regards to syncing albums onto my iPhone
>> from my local iTunes library. I have a large amount of music, and not all of
>> it can fit on my phone at once. The big issue I have run into is that, if I
>> want to get rid of all of my albums and sync different ones, there is no way
>> to do this quickly. If I turn off the sync feature, everything is deleted;
>> but if I turn it back on, the albums I had previously selected in the
>> "music" tab in the iPhone settings in iTunes are still checked. I have to go
>> through and uncheck each album individually, which takes a tremendously long
>> time. I don't have wi-fi at the moment, so iTunes match isn't an option as I
>> have no way to upload the music; and I'm not planning on getting an Apple
>> Music/Spotify subscription right now. Can anyone offer any advice?
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Syncing Local Music Files to iPhone

[K. Scott Carlson]

Hello, I have a major issue with regards to syncing albums onto my iPhone from 
my local iTunes library. I have a large amount of music, and not all of it can 
fit on my phone at once. The big issue I have run into is that, if I want to 
get rid of all of my albums and sync different ones, there is no way to do this 
quickly. If I turn off the sync feature, everything is deleted; but if I turn 
it back on, the albums I had previously selected in the "music" tab in the 
iPhone settings in iTunes are still checked. I have to go through and uncheck 
each album individually, which takes a tremendously long time. I don't have 
wi-fi at the moment, so iTunes match isn't an option as I have no way to upload 
the music; and I'm not planning on getting an Apple Music/Spotify subscription 
right now. Can anyone offer any advice?

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Pretext Markdown Editor

[K. Scott Carlson]

Has anyone used this app? How does it compare to similar programs like Ulysses 
and VoiceDream Writer? There is no entry for it on AppleVis, but it looks like 
it could be a good free option.

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Re: What is every ones fave podcast app

[K. Scott Carlson]

I would like Overcast a lot better if it (a) let you see only a list
of your downloaded episodes and (b) actually streamed episodes instead
of downloading lower quality ones when episodes are set to stream. I'd
get Downcast but don't want to pay for it.

On 1/26/18, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
> Likewise, I use downcast.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Rash
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> I use Downcast.
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Of wui chin Leong
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: What is every ones fave podcast app
>
> What is every ones fave podcast they enjoy using/i love to use the naytive
> podcast app
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Re: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI

[K. Scott Carlson]

Do you know to what degree things like coloring, greyscale, boxes and
odd fonts can affect Seeing AI's processing of documents? I suspect
with the docket sheets I just described, Seeing AI might be having
problems for that reason. like you, i've had pretty good luck with
Seeing AI when scanning normal documents, but not so much stuff like
this.

On 1/19/18, Richard Turner  wrote:
> That is not my experience at all.
> But, if you do not care about document layout, then KNFB is faster.
> With the Short Text mode, once it starts reading the page, point the camera
> to a blank spot on your desk, because the entire point of the short text
> mode is to read on the fly, so any movement that focuses on other text, or
> changes the focus on the same text, will be treated as a new scan. It isn't
> really designed for whole page scanning, that is what the document channel
> is for.
> But, if it doesn't work for you, sticking with KNFB makes perfect sense.
> Scott White, at NFB, tells me that format retention should be in an update
> this year for KNFB.
> Something I've asked for since it was released.
> Here's hoping it finally happens.
> Richard
>
>
>
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
>
> On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:24 PM, kelby carlson
> > wrote:
>
> So, I'm now working in a court and have to deal with lots of paper
> documents. So I am using OCR much more. This has given me the chance to
> really compare KNFB Reader (which I honestly hadn't used much even though I
> bought it) and Seeing AI.
>
> My conclusion: KNFB still beats Seeing AI for scanning print documents by a
> country mile.
>
> Take what is called a "face sheet" for a docket, which contains all the
> basic information about a case. When trying to do the document channel with
> Seeing AI, it would continually tellm me that one or more edges was not
> visible no matter how much I adjusted the phone. When I raised the phone
> really high and got a "hold steady" it would take a picture but not
> recognize a bit of text.
>
> With KNFB: I center the camera, lift it up, take a couple field of views to
> orient, take a picture and it reads the sheet almost immediately, with very
> few flaws at all.
>
> In each case I'm using the same camera and positioning it in the same way. I
> can only conclude, then, that it is a difference in the apps.
>
> Seeing AI's short text feature in this case actually worked better than the
> document channel, for some reason, but typically still gives garbled text ap
> some points and will also stop if you move the camera even a milimeter.
>
> So, I think with a few exceptions I'll be sticking with KNFB Reader.
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>
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Re: Free Writing App?

[K. Scott Carlson]

I do have a bluetooth keyboard, whch is one of the reasons I'm trying
to find a good Word processor.

On 1/19/18, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
> Well, as far as I know, the only apps that allow editing of word documents
> are Pages and Word.
> Frankly, I don't think either one works very well with VoiceOver. Word might
> work a little better than pages, but you will find it rather tedious and
> without a bluetooth  keyboard, I wouldn't waste my time.
> Richard
>
>
>
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
>
> On Jan 19, 2018, at 9:49 AM, K. Scott Carlson
> <kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> To make clear what I'm looking for, it's pretty simple:
>
> I need an app that can, at the very least, read already-created Word
> files. i need it to have basic reading and editing functions but to be
> focused primarily on word processing itself; I'm not interested in,
> for example, novel creation. I haven't experimented too much with Word
> or Pages but it sounds like I may need to try them. Scrivener is not
> something I'm willing to pay for, and it sounds like with Writer one
> can only create one document at a time.
>
> So, perhaps there simply isn't an app that fulfills what I'm looking
> for out there.
>
> On 12/9/17, Kimberly
> <kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com<mailto:kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> While I am not familiar with Byword, I have been using Drafts for sometime
> now and like it very well. It is exactly what it says, a drafting app which
> while it allows you to mark up your text, it does not allow saving of
> documents. You have to for example copy then paste whatever you've written
> into another app to save it. So keep that in mind when making your
> decision.
>
>
>
> The beauty of the Drafts app is its simplicity and of use. So if you don't
> mind the limitations I described above, I think it's a great choice.
>
> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that
> we
> go on.—Annie Proulx
>
> On Dec 8, 2017, at 10:44 PM, Apple Nerd
> <the.big.apple.n...@hotmail.com<mailto:the.big.apple.n...@hotmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Which app would be worth getting? Byword or Drafts?
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On Dec 8, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Richard Turner
> <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>>
> wrote:
>
> I know it can import txt files, I'm not sure beyond that.
> It can export to several including rtf and word.
> It is primarily for document creation.
> Richard
>
>
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> 
>
>
> On Dec 8, 2017, at 5:57 AM, Kimber Gardner
> <kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com<mailto:kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Denny,
>
> What writing was that? Also, I couldn't find a novel idea in the app
> store. Do you have a link?
>
> Just as a point of information, I was going to try the writer app, but
> every time I tap the more tab the app causes my phone to freeze.
>
> On 12/7/17, Denny Schwab
> <denny.sch...@gmail.com<mailto:denny.sch...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> The Writing App I mentioned is set up to help you write a novel.  You
> can create Characters, Chapters, and put together Items and other
> things.  It collects all of these into Novels.  A Novel Idea did the
> same sort of thing, but also added in the ability to link characters
> and ideas to multiple novels, and let you set up relationships between
> characters.  Both are much more than just a word processor.
>
> Denny
>
> On 12/7/17, Richard Turner
> <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> Mark,
> Voice Dream Writer allows for text markup so your final document can
> be
> exported with headings, bullets, etc.
> You can export to RTF or Word.
> You can navigate and edit by headings, paragraphs or sentences.
> It has a great spell checker, and more.
> Here is the link:
> Voice Dream Writer by Voice Dream LLC
> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fitunes.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fvoice-dream-writer%2Fid920583100%3Fmt%3D8=02%7C01%7C%7Cca677bb26d3c42aed50d08d53e43a170%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636483382544205584=Jx7UvVh4lZgR05i8r5jT337gnKvTYTZy2lJPAUUJuF0%3D=0
>
>
> Richard
>
>
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject
> of
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack 

Re: Free Writing App?

[K. Scott Carlson]

>>> On Dec 7, 2017, at 11:51 AM, M. Taylor
>>>>>> <mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Rich and Everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m afraid this thread has me a bit baffled.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you speak of a, writing app, do you mean a word processor?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, does anyone have the link to Writer as I would like to take a
>>>>>> look
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do these writing apps offer some extra features not available in Pages
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> Word?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 6:15 AM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Free Writing App?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Writer is $9.99 but well worth it in my opinion.
>>>>>> I know nothing about Scribner.
>>>>>> MS-Word is free, but not very user friendly with VoiceOver. It is
>>>>>> almost
>>>>>> impossible to keep track of where you are in a document.
>>>>>> It might be a little better than Pages, but not great.
>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 7, 2017, at 5:39 AM, K. Scott Carlson
>>>>>> <kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> It seems like the top ones that people recommend are Scrivener,
>>>>>> VoiceDream
>>>>>> Writer and MS Word.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/6/2017 8:40 PM, Michael Feir wrote:
>>>>>> I completely get that feeling. However, they make a pretty good case.
>>>>>> Good
>>>>>> enough to convince me at any rate. I'm in this for the long haul. I
>>>>>> want
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> tool which will not suddenly disappear or be left to age
>>>>>> ungracefully.
>>>>>> Not
>>>>>> so long ago, there were some wonderful audio games which even had
>>>>>> famous
>>>>>> voice actors like Sean Bean as narrators. They're gone now because
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> developers couldn't make enough profit to keep in business making
>>>>>> games.
>>>>>> Papa Sangre and Audio Defence can't be bought anymore and you'd need
>>>>>> older
>>>>>> hardware to run them. I never got to win any of those games before
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> reached the point where they wouldn't work on new versions of iOS.
>>>>>> That's
>>>>>> what can happen when you pay once and everyone else interested has
>>>>>> also
>>>>>> paid
>>>>>> once.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The subscription model gives them the income they need to keep working
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> Ulysses in a more considered way than with other apps. With a
>>>>>> one-time
>>>>>> feee,
>>>>>> you buy what you get but there's no funds or obligation for the
>>>>>> developer
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> keep working on it. Also, in order to attract more customers, you need
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> make big changes with that in mind rather than the more considered
>>>>>> changes
>>>>>> you make when you rely on people sticking with you who like what you
>>>>>> offered
>>>>>> at the time you subscribed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I've put in tech support requests, I've gotten consistantly
>>>>>> reasonable
>>>>>> good responses. They're a small company but they really care about
>>>>>> problems
>>>>>> faced by subscribers. I don't think blin

Sync Music to iPhone

[K. Scott Carlson]

Is there an accessible way to download music onto my iPhone htrough 
iTunes without using iCloud or iTunes match? I'm using Windows.


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Bluetooth Keyboard Shortcuts

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Is there a list anywhere of all the keyboard schortcuts available for 
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Re: Recognizing Photos in Other Apps

[K. Scott Carlson]

I can't do it in either Facebook Messages or Dropbox.


On 1/5/2018 2:41 PM, Fazil M. wrote:

I get my photo from WhatsApp recognized by Seeing AI just fine.
Thanks!
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All,


Is it possible to recognize photos with Seeing AI from with any app or
do you *have* to save it to photos first? It makes the process a lot
harder and clutters my photo library.



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Recognizing Photos in Other Apps

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All,


Is it possible to recognize photos with Seeing AI from with any app or 
do you *have* to save it to photos first? It makes the process a lot 
harder and clutters my photo library.


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Re: Mail Message in the VO rotor

[K. Scott Carlson]

I have also noticed this.


On 1/2/2018 4:50 PM, Candie Stiles wrote:

I have noticed this and let me tell you it drives me crazy. I have to keep 
turning the roder back to messages in order to go to the next message in the 
thread. The only way I found to avoid this is to do a two finger swipe down to 
read each message instead of flicking right.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 2, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Daniel McGee  wrote:

Hi all, running the latest update of iOS 11 is anyone noticing that when going 
through a message thread on iOS, VO doesn't stay focused on the message option 
in the rotor. But rather defaults to the actions option instead? I'm using the 
default mail app.

Anyone know of a fix for this?

Thanks

Daniel

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Re: Reading Line-By-Line with the Rotor

[K. Scott Carlson]

I've experienced it in messages and mail, and it seems to be in all 
other apps as well including Safari.



On 1/2/2018 12:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

In what app or apps does this happen? It must be app specific because whenever 
I have used reading line by line in apps like Mail or Notes I have not 
experienced this.


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Hi all,


I've noticed that when setting the rotor to scroll by line and swiping down, VO 
reads the next line but with the first letter or two cut off.
If I then swipe up to go to the beginning of that line it will read the whole 
thing. Anyone know what's going on?

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Reading Line-By-Line with the Rotor

[K. Scott Carlson]

Hi all,


I've noticed that when setting the rotor to scroll by line and swiping 
down, VO reads the next line but with the first letter or two cut off. 
If I then swipe up to go to the beginning of that line it will read the 
whole thing. Anyone know what's going on?


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Unfollowing Multiple People in Twitterific

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Is there a way to select multiple people to unfollow at once from your 
profile, or do you have to go into every single profile and unfollow?


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Re: Recognizing Photos from Facebook with Seeing AI

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If you click on the photo, it will open and there will be a share 
button. That share button does not, however, open up the typical iOS 
share screen. Instead it is the Facebook share screen, where you are 
invited to share the photo to your timeline. So as far as I can tell, 
there's no way to recognize a photo from directly in Facebook.



In the Blind Side Podcast on Seeing AI, Jonathan Mosen did a 
demonstration on Twitterific of recognizing a photo from within the app, 
but it may be that it only works in that particular client. I'm not sure.



On 12/21/2017 5:12 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe wrote:
   Hi, how do you open a photo in facebook?  At one time, I was able 
to do this but, after a few updates to facebook, can not seem to do it 
correctly. Andy and Shubert


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When you open up the photo from Facebook you go to the share button 
then you should get the iOS share sheet and you want the option that 
says recognize with Seeing AI


Sent from my iPod


On Dec 20, 2017, at 1:19 PM, Shai <shai...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
Unless something has changed recently, I remember having to save a
photo to my photo library before having it recognized with Seeing AI.
What I wound up doing was deleting it right afterward since I did not
need it after it was described.



On 12/20/17, K. Scott Carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> wrote:
Does one have to save a photo from Facebook to the photo library before
recognizing it with Seeing AI? My photos are going to get really
cluttered if I have to keep doing this.

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Recognizing Photos from Facebook with Seeing AI

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Does one have to save a photo from Facebook to the photo library before 
recognizing it with Seeing AI? My photos are going to get really 
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Recognizing Multiple Pages in Seeing AI

[K. Scott Carlson]

I assume the answer is no, but I'd like to confirm. Is there a way to 
recognize multiple pages in Seeing AI similar to KNFB Reader? That is, 
recognize a number of pages of a document in succession and then save 
them all? This is one of the useful features of KNFB reader and, at this 
point, one of the few reasons its document reader still has a small 
advantage (at least for me.)


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"Null" When Searching in Dropbox

[K. Scott Carlson]

Hi,


I have a very large number of files on my Dropbox, some of which I'd 
like to access by searching them. However, when I type in something to 
the search field and then look at the results, everything comes up as 
"null". There is no file name. Is there a way around this? Will it be 
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Using Front-facing Camera with Seeing AI

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Is there a way to tell Seeing AI to use the front-facing camera when 
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Re: Free Writing App?

[K. Scott Carlson]

What type of documents can Voice Dream Writer import?


On 12/7/2017 3:17 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Mark,
Voice Dream Writer allows for text markup so your final document can 
be exported with headings, bullets, etc.

You can export to RTF or Word.
You can navigate and edit by headings, paragraphs or sentences.
It has a great spell checker, and more.
Here is the link:
Voice Dream Writer by Voice Dream LLC 
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voice-dream-writer/id920583100?mt=8



Richard


"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject 
of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."




On Dec 7, 2017, at 11:51 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu 
<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote:



Hello Rich and Everyone,

I’m afraid this thread has me a bit baffled.

When you speak of a, writing app, do you mean a word processor?

Also, does anyone have the link to Writer as I would like to take a 
look at it?


Do these writing apps offer some extra features not available in 
Pages or Word?


Thank you,

Mark

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Writer is $9.99 but well worth it in my opinion.
I know nothing about Scribner.
MS-Word is free, but not very user friendly with VoiceOver. It is 
almost impossible to keep track of where you are in a document.

It might be a little better than Pages, but not great.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Dec 7, 2017, at 5:39 AM, K. Scott Carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com 
<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It seems like the top ones that people recommend are Scrivener, 
VoiceDream Writer and MS Word.


On 12/6/2017 8:40 PM, Michael Feir wrote:
I completely get that feeling. However, they make a pretty good case. 
Good enough to convince me at any rate. I'm in this for the long 
haul. I want a tool which will not suddenly disappear or be left to 
age ungracefully. Not so long ago, there were some wonderful audio 
games which even had famous voice actors like Sean Bean as narrators. 
They're gone now because the developers couldn't make enough profit 
to keep in business making games. Papa Sangre and Audio Defence can't 
be bought anymore and you'd need older hardware to run them. I never 
got to win any of those games before they reached the point where 
they wouldn't work on new versions of iOS. That's what can happen 
when you pay once and everyone else interested has also paid once.


The subscription model gives them the income they need to keep 
working on Ulysses in a more considered way than with other apps. 
With a one-time feee, you buy what you get but there's no funds or 
obligation for the developer to keep working on it. Also, in order to 
attract more customers, you need to make big changes with that in 
mind rather than the more considered changes you make when you rely 
on people sticking with you who like what you offered at the time you 
subscribed.


When I've put in tech support requests, I've gotten consistantly 
reasonable good responses. They're a small company but they really 
care about problems faced by subscribers. I don't think blind people 
make a huge percentage of their subscribers but they nevertheless 
address accessibility issues as that's possible. Frankly, I'm in this 
out of pure interest to see how a steady income changes app 
development and mind set for these folks. I want to see how thing 
develop over the years presuming they manage to last. They['ve gotten 
tonds of attention from writers so I think they have a very good 
chance of staying the corse and keeping their subscribers happy.


Anyhow, that's why I got on board. It's not perfect. There's a 
movement lag when yo first move onto a document with Voiceover. 
However, writing works fine but they're going to improve movement of 
the cursor with VoiceOver as soon as they can. It's good enough that 
I'm more than willing to put up with a few things in order to have 
the rest. I'll keep an ear on this threas to see what other people 
may have found when it comes to writing apps.


On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 8:08 PM kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com 
<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I totally understand a subscription model for a service like Spotify 
where you're paying for access to a catalog. But not with something 
like a writing tool for personal use; a one-time charge makes more 
sense from my perspective.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 6, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Michael Feir <michael.f...@gmail.com 
<mailto:michael.f...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I personally find Ulysses worth the subscription. It'll be even more 
the case once they deal with a touch of cluggishness navigati

Re: Free Writing App?

[K. Scott Carlson]

It seems like the top ones that people recommend are Scrivener, 
VoiceDream Writer and MS Word.



On 12/6/2017 8:40 PM, Michael Feir wrote:
I completely get that feeling. However, they make a pretty good case. 
Good enough to convince me at any rate. I'm in this for the long haul. 
I want a tool which will not suddenly disappear or be left to age 
ungracefully. Not so long ago, there were some wonderful audio games 
which even had famous voice actors like Sean Bean as narrators. 
They're gone now because the developers couldn't make enough profit to 
keep in business making games. Papa Sangre and Audio Defence can't be 
bought anymore and you'd need older hardware to run them. I never got 
to win any of those games before they reached the point where they 
wouldn't work on new versions of iOS. That's what can happen when you 
pay once and everyone else interested has also paid once.


The subscription model gives them the income they need to keep working 
on Ulysses in a more considered way than with other apps. With a 
one-time feee, you buy what you get but there's no funds or obligation 
for the developer to keep working on it. Also, in order to attract 
more customers, you need to make big changes with that in mind rather 
than the more considered changes you make when you rely on people 
sticking with you who like what you offered at the time you subscribed.


When I've put in tech support requests, I've gotten consistantly 
reasonable good responses. They're a small company but they really 
care about problems faced by subscribers. I don't think blind people 
make a huge percentage of their subscribers but they nevertheless 
address accessibility issues as that's possible. Frankly, I'm in this 
out of pure interest to see how a steady income changes app 
development and mind set for these folks. I want to see how thing 
develop over the years presuming they manage to last. They['ve gotten 
tonds of attention from writers so I think they have a very good 
chance of staying the corse and keeping their subscribers happy.


Anyhow, that's why I got on board. It's not perfect. There's a 
movement lag when yo first move onto a document with Voiceover. 
However, writing works fine but they're going to improve movement of 
the cursor with VoiceOver as soon as they can. It's good enough that 
I'm more than willing to put up with a few things in order to have the 
rest. I'll keep an ear on this threas to see what other people may 
have found when it comes to writing apps.


On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 8:08 PM kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com 
<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I totally understand a subscription model for a service like
Spotify where you're paying for access to a catalog. But not with
something like a writing tool for personal use; a one-time charge
makes more sense from my perspective.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 6, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Michael Feir <michael.f...@gmail.com
<mailto:michael.f...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I personally find Ulysses worth the subscription. It'll be even
more the case once they deal with a touch of cluggishness
navigating with VoiceOver. That's on the agenda. One alternative
you may want to check out is Bear. I don't believe it's a
subscription model app. There's also Scrivener. Pages from Apple
is their free word processor. I didn't like it but others may
find it suits them. You might also want to try Microsoft Word
which is free on iOS. Hope that helps.

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 5:30 PM Stephanie Mitchell
<natureloving...@gmail.com <mailto:natureloving...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I use byword. It is similar but a little cheaper.

Steph

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Date: 12/07/2017 08:19 AM
Subject: Free Writing App?

Does anyone have any recommendations for either a free or
inexpensive
writing app that is accessible? I was thinking of getting
Ulysses but I
don't want to pay a subscription fee for an app like that.

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Does anyone have any recommendations for either a free or inexpensive 
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Voiceover Volume on Lock Screen

[K. Scott Carlson]

Does anyone know why on the lock screen pressing the volume buttons does 
not actually change the actual volume?


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Playing Documents Back to Back

[K. Scott Carlson]

According to the manual, you can adjust this in "advanced settings". The 
only settings I have seen that look like this are "advanced audio 
settings' and there is no setting to adjust as to whether the next 
document will play after the previous documents ends. It looks like the 
manual is really out of date here.


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Reading Pocket Articles in Voicedream

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Once I've connected Voicedream to Pocket and added a bunch of articles 
from Pocket into my RSS reader, how do I get the articles from Pocket to 
Voicedream and have them read back to back?


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Adding Music from iTunes

[K. Scott Carlson]

How  can I add music to my iPhone through iTunes on a Pc?


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Scanning Multiple Pages in Seeing AI

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Is there a way to scan multiple pages of a document in Seeing AI and 
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Fastforwarding in Spotify

[K. Scott Carlson]

When I'm in the now playing screen in Spotify on the track position 
button, Voiceover tells me it is adjustable but when I flick upward to 
fastforward nothing happens. Can one no longer do this in Spotify?


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Learning the Camera

[K. Scott Carlson]

All,


I am pretty terrible at aiming the camera on my iPhone, whether that is 
for Facetime, scanning or something else. Is there anywhere that 
explains how to aim the iPhone camera well without seeing it? I'm 
especially bad with the front-facing camera.


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Feedler Login

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When I try to log in to Feedler with Google, I keep getting an error 
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Spotify Library Search

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If I go to the "albums" window in the library tab in Spotify and type 
something in the search field, I am not able to exit that search field. 
There will be an albums heading at the top, but no back button and a 
two-finger scrub does nothing. To get back out I have to click on "your 
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Re: Why Does Everyone Like iOS Alex so Much?

[K. Scott Carlson]

What I've taken to doing is using Tom for VoiceOver and Samantha for 
VoiceDream. (I don't care much for the Neo Speech voices.)



On 10/20/2017 1:11 PM, Chime Bear wrote:

I use either Karen or Tom for my VoiceOver.  I can't stand Alex.  He
sounds too robotic.  Better than Eloquence, though.

On 10/20/17, Michael Feir <michael.f...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have hearing losss and quite like the Alex voice on my iPHONE7. It's the
best compromise between responsiveness and enjoyability and I use it for
reading books quite a lot. However, in some backgrounds where I really need
the voice to cut through for me, I prefer the Australian Karen voice. An
old but reliable companion. The American Ava voice is also reasonably
pleasant.

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 12:34 PM Kay Malmquist <kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>
wrote:


I have a hearing loss and do not like Alex in any way.  On my phone I use
Tom or the male Siri voice.  On my computer I much prefer Paul from the
DecTalk Express and can't stand Eloquence in any way.  He sounds to
choppy
and like he has a clothepin on his nose, if he had one.  Just my grumpy
take
on the voices

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 8:19 AM
Subject: RE: Why Does Everyone Like iOS Alex so Much?


I think people were really looking forward to Alex because on the Mac he
does sound quite a bit better. Also, for some people with hearing loss I
understand Alex can be better than other voices.
I also still use Eloquence with Jaws although occasionally may switch to
a
voice like Samantha or Nathan if I want to read a longer article or piece
of
text slowly. All of the human sounding voices in my opinion don't sound
good
when they speak fast. The new female SIRI voice on the uiPhone is a good
example. I think it sounds awesome, maybe the best TTS I have heard
except
maybe Alexa on the Echo, but she definitely does not sound good if you go
faster than her default.
Larry is correct, voices are super subjective, some for example prefer to
use the compact iOS voice and think it sounds better than the high
quality
one and I just don't hear it that way, to me the high quality is much
better.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Behalf
Of K. Scott Carlson
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 5:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Why Does Everyone Like iOS Alex so Much?

I agree; Eloquence is still my favorite and I haven't found anything to
replace it. I actually find the "human" sounding voices to sound really
weird.


On 10/20/2017 8:37 AM, Larry Lumpkin wrote:

Synthesizer voices are highly subjective and very much a matter of
personal taste. I like eloquence and wouldn't use another voice if I
had

a

choice and would do so if IoS offered it but that is just my personal
preference.


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Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 7:33 AM
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Subject: Why Does Everyone Like iOS Alex so Much?

   The subject pretty much says it all. I've tried using his voice a
number of times, and it sounds weirdly robotic and muffled to me. Not
appealing at all. What is the appeal for people, since it was such a
big
deal when it was added?



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Re: Why Does Everyone Like iOS Alex so Much?

[K. Scott Carlson]

That's the biggest problem I have: I typically have my voice set to 
about 550 words per minute. For the human voices that makes them almost 
incomprehensible, whereas not so much the synthetic voices.



On 10/20/2017 9:19 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

I think people were really looking forward to Alex because on the Mac he does 
sound quite a bit better. Also, for some people with hearing loss I understand 
Alex can be better than other voices.
I also still use Eloquence with Jaws although occasionally may switch to a 
voice like Samantha or Nathan if I want to read a longer article or piece of 
text slowly. All of the human sounding voices in my opinion don't sound good 
when they speak fast. The new female SIRI voice on the uiPhone is a good 
example. I think it sounds awesome, maybe the best TTS I have heard except 
maybe Alexa on the Echo, but she definitely does not sound good if you go 
faster than her default.
Larry is correct, voices are super subjective, some for example prefer to use 
the compact iOS voice and think it sounds better than the high quality one and 
I just don't hear it that way, to me the high quality is much better.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Subject: Re: Why Does Everyone Like iOS Alex so Much?

I agree; Eloquence is still my favorite and I haven't found anything to replace it. I 
actually find the "human" sounding voices to sound really weird.


On 10/20/2017 8:37 AM, Larry Lumpkin wrote:

Synthesizer voices are highly subjective and very much a matter of personal 
taste. I like eloquence and wouldn't use another voice if I had a choice and 
would do so if IoS offered it but that is just my personal preference.


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Subject: Why Does Everyone Like iOS Alex so Much?

   The subject pretty much says it all. I've tried using his voice a number 
of times, and it sounds weirdly robotic and muffled to me. Not appealing at 
all. What is the appeal for people, since it was such a big deal when it was 
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Re: Why Does Everyone Like iOS Alex so Much?

[K. Scott Carlson]

I agree; Eloquence is still my favorite and I haven't found anything to 
replace it. I actually find the "human" sounding voices to sound really 
weird.



On 10/20/2017 8:37 AM, Larry Lumpkin wrote:

Synthesizer voices are highly subjective and very much a matter of personal 
taste. I like eloquence and wouldn't use another voice if I had a choice and 
would do so if IoS offered it but that is just my personal preference.


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  The subject pretty much says it all. I've tried using his voice a number 
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all. What is the appeal for people, since it was such a big deal when it was 
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Why Does Everyone Like iOS Alex so Much?

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    The subject pretty much says it all. I've tried using his voice a 
number of times, and it sounds weirdly robotic and muffled to me. Not 
appealing at all. What is the appeal for people, since it was such a big 
deal when it was added?




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