I do have a bluetooth keyboard, whch is one of the reasons I'm trying
to find a good Word processor.

On 1/19/18, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, as far as I know, the only apps that allow editing of word documents
> are Pages and Word.
> Frankly, I don't think either one works very well with VoiceOver. Word might
> work a little better than pages, but you will find it rather tedious and
> without a bluetooth  keyboard, I wouldn't waste my time.
> Richard
>
>
>
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
>
> On Jan 19, 2018, at 9:49 AM, K. Scott Carlson
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> To make clear what I'm looking for, it's pretty simple:
>
> I need an app that can, at the very least, read already-created Word
> files. i need it to have basic reading and editing functions but to be
> focused primarily on word processing itself; I'm not interested in,
> for example, novel creation. I haven't experimented too much with Word
> or Pages but it sounds like I may need to try them. Scrivener is not
> something I'm willing to pay for, and it sounds like with Writer one
> can only create one document at a time.
>
> So, perhaps there simply isn't an app that fulfills what I'm looking
> for out there.
>
> On 12/9/17, Kimberly
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> While I am not familiar with Byword, I have been using Drafts for sometime
> now and like it very well. It is exactly what it says, a drafting app which
> while it allows you to mark up your text, it does not allow saving of
> documents. You have to for example copy then paste whatever you've written
> into another app to save it. So keep that in mind when making your
> decision.
>
>
>
> The beauty of the Drafts app is its simplicity and of use. So if you don't
> mind the limitations I described above, I think it's a great choice.
>
> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that
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> go on.—Annie Proulx
>
> On Dec 8, 2017, at 10:44 PM, Apple Nerd
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Which app would be worth getting? Byword or Drafts?
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On Dec 8, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Richard Turner
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> wrote:
>
> I know it can import txt files, I'm not sure beyond that.
> It can export to several including rtf and word.
> It is primarily for document creation.
> Richard
>
>
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> 🖖🏿
>
>
> On Dec 8, 2017, at 5:57 AM, Kimber Gardner
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> wrote:
>
> Denny,
>
> What writing was that? Also, I couldn't find a novel idea in the app
> store. Do you have a link?
>
> Just as a point of information, I was going to try the writer app, but
> every time I tap the more tab the app causes my phone to freeze.
>
> On 12/7/17, Denny Schwab
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> The Writing App I mentioned is set up to help you write a novel.  You
> can create Characters, Chapters, and put together Items and other
> things.  It collects all of these into Novels.  A Novel Idea did the
> same sort of thing, but also added in the ability to link characters
> and ideas to multiple novels, and let you set up relationships between
> characters.  Both are much more than just a word processor.
>
> Denny
>
> On 12/7/17, Richard Turner
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Mark,
> Voice Dream Writer allows for text markup so your final document can
> be
> exported with headings, bullets, etc.
> You can export to RTF or Word.
> You can navigate and edit by headings, paragraphs or sentences.
> It has a great spell checker, and more.
> Here is the link:
> Voice Dream Writer by Voice Dream LLC
> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fitunes.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fvoice-dream-writer%2Fid920583100%3Fmt%3D8&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cca677bb26d3c42aed50d08d53e43a170%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636483382544205584&sdata=Jx7UvVh4lZgR05i8r5jT337gnKvTYTZy2lJPAUUJuF0%3D&reserved=0
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>
> Richard
>
>
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject
> of
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies
> in
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> 🖖🏿
>
>
> On Dec 7, 2017, at 11:51 AM, M. Taylor
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> Hello Rich and Everyone,
>
> I’m afraid this thread has me a bit baffled.
>
> When you speak of a, writing app, do you mean a word processor?
>
> Also, does anyone have the link to Writer as I would like to take a
> look
> at
> it?
>
> Do these writing apps offer some extra features not available in Pages
> or
> Word?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Mark
>
> From:
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 6:15 AM
> To:
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Free Writing App?
>
>
> Writer is $9.99 but well worth it in my opinion.
> I know nothing about Scribner.
> MS-Word is free, but not very user friendly with VoiceOver. It is
> almost
> impossible to keep track of where you are in a document.
> It might be a little better than Pages, but not great.
> Richard
>
>
>
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
>
> On Dec 7, 2017, at 5:39 AM, K. Scott Carlson
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>>
> wrote:
> It seems like the top ones that people recommend are Scrivener,
> VoiceDream
> Writer and MS Word.
>
> On 12/6/2017 8:40 PM, Michael Feir wrote:
> I completely get that feeling. However, they make a pretty good case.
> Good
> enough to convince me at any rate. I'm in this for the long haul. I
> want
> a
> tool which will not suddenly disappear or be left to age
> ungracefully.
> Not
> so long ago, there were some wonderful audio games which even had
> famous
> voice actors like Sean Bean as narrators. They're gone now because
> the
> developers couldn't make enough profit to keep in business making
> games.
> Papa Sangre and Audio Defence can't be bought anymore and you'd need
> older
> hardware to run them. I never got to win any of those games before
> they
> reached the point where they wouldn't work on new versions of iOS.
> That's
> what can happen when you pay once and everyone else interested has
> also
> paid
> once.
>
> The subscription model gives them the income they need to keep working
> on
> Ulysses in a more considered way than with other apps. With a
> one-time
> feee,
> you buy what you get but there's no funds or obligation for the
> developer
> to
> keep working on it. Also, in order to attract more customers, you need
> to
> make big changes with that in mind rather than the more considered
> changes
> you make when you rely on people sticking with you who like what you
> offered
> at the time you subscribed.
>
> When I've put in tech support requests, I've gotten consistantly
> reasonable
> good responses. They're a small company but they really care about
> problems
> faced by subscribers. I don't think blind people make a huge
> percentage
> of
> their subscribers but they nevertheless address accessibility issues
> as
> that's possible. Frankly, I'm in this out of pure interest to see how
> a
> steady income changes app development and mind set for these folks. I
> want
> to see how thing develop over the years presuming they manage to
> last.
> They['ve gotten tonds of attention from writers so I think they have
> a
> very
> good chance of staying the corse and keeping their subscribers happy.
>
> Anyhow, that's why I got on board. It's not perfect. There's a
> movement
> lag
> when yo first move onto a document with Voiceover. However, writing
> works
> fine but they're going to improve movement of the cursor with
> VoiceOver
> as
> soon as they can. It's good enough that I'm more than willing to put
> up
> with
> a few things in order to have the rest. I'll keep an ear on this
> threas
> to
> see what other people may have found when it comes to writing apps.
>
> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 8:08 PM kelby carlson
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>>
> wrote:
> I totally understand a subscription model for a service like Spotify
> where
> you're paying for access to a catalog. But not with something like a
> writing
> tool for personal use; a one-time charge makes more sense from my
> perspective.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 6, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Michael Feir
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>>
> wrote:
> I personally find Ulysses worth the subscription. It'll be even more
> the
> case once they deal with a touch of cluggishness navigating with
> VoiceOver.
> That's on the agenda. One alternative you may want to check out is
> Bear.
> I
> don't believe it's a subscription model app. There's also Scrivener.
> Pages
> from Apple is their free word processor. I didn't like it but others
> may
> find it suits them. You might also want to try Microsoft Word which
> is
> free
> on iOS. Hope that helps.
>
> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 5:30 PM Stephanie Mitchell
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>>
> wrote:
> I use byword. It is similar but a little cheaper.
>
> Steph
>
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> Does anyone have any recommendations for either a free or inexpensive
> writing app that is accessible? I was thinking of getting Ulysses but
> I
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