Re: rss reader

[Kelly Ford]

I use Lire. I am fairly certain it has a small cost but has worked well for me 
on both my phone and my computer.

Kelly.


On May 14, 2024, at 11:50 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

 I really like Net News Wire. It is 100% freee and has a related Macintosh 
version.


On May 14, 2024, at 11:22 AM, 
mailto:juanhernande...@gmail.com>> 
mailto:juanhernande...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi All,

I just tried feedly, and feeder rss iphone apps but they are not very good can 
anyone recommend something that is good? I would like feeder’s ability to email 
the app articles if anyone has any suggestions please let me know.

Thanks.


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Re: Anyone Tried Tame

[Kelly Ford]

I did and apologies for the spelling error.


On Feb 18, 2024, at 3:42 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

Did you mean "temu" spelled t e m u? A shopping app?
If so, I gave it a shot and it is pretty awful.

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On Feb 18, 2024, at 1:12 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:

So,


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Anyone Tried Tame

[Kelly Ford]

So,

They spent at least $7 million on the one Super Bowl ad I caught and maybe more 
if they rant it more than once. I’m curious if anyone has tried the Tamu iOS 
app?

I gave it a spin last evening and it didn’t seem to work very well with 
VoiceOver. Focus jumped all over the place, text that seemed like you should be 
able to act on it, didn’t do anything when double tapped and more.

Even the Add to Cart button was named Add to Card for me.

Kelly

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Re: locked out of my macbook pro

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

The times I’ve used the recovery environment, it has worked successfully with 
VoiceOver. I ran into this exact situation a couple months ago on a computer I 
hadn’t used for about six months and didn’t recall the password.

Kelly


> On Jan 6, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
> 
> It has been a while since I have used my macbook pro, and I have
> forgotten the password.
> 
> Is there a way to reset the password that works with voiceOver?
> 
> I know I can bring up the recovery screen by holding down the
> command+r keys while booting but I don't know if that works with
> voiceOver and I don't want to cause more problems if it isn't
> accessible.
> 
> Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
> 
> -- 
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> IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core
> 
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Re: An Apple TV Remote Question

[Kelly Ford]

If you have an iPhone, you can bring up a control experience for your Apple TV 
from the phone. Open the Control Center and it should be one of the options.

Kelly


> On Jan 5, 2024, at 8:11 AM, 'Karen Poulakos' via VIPhone 
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> 
> I did find a Universal Remote app, but wasn't sure about that one.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jessica Dail
> Sent: Friday, January 5, 2024 8:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: An Apple TV Remote Question
> 
> Hi,
> There is an app you can get from the app store, which will allow you to pair 
> your iPhone and use that as the remote until you receive your replacement.
> Try searching, "Apple TV remote."
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Jessica dail
> 810-730-1861
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Karen Poulakos' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Friday, January 5, 2024 9:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: An Apple TV Remote Question
> 
> The remote came with our little Apple TV device.  I don't know the model.  
> The Accessibility rep must have had the information from when it was 
> purchased, because the only thing he asked us was the color.  It's silver.
> 
> The buttons that don't work are the left and right arrows, and the Select 
> buttons.  Siri is cooperative to a point, but doesn't always get us to where 
> we want to be.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> David Grossoehme
> Sent: Friday, January 5, 2024 8:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: An Apple TV Remote Question
> 
> Which remote do you have.  What action does the buttons take on your remote 
> that don't work for you?  Did you try using Siri to voice the action to your 
> Apple TV to see if that would help you?
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> On 1/5/2024 9:34 AM, 'Karen Poulakos' via VIPhone wrote:
>> After spending some time last night, on the phone with an Apple 
>> Accessibility Rep, we determined that some of the buttons on our Apple 
>> TV remote are no longer working.  Does anyone know of an app that 
>> would work on the phone for controlling Apple TV, until our new remote 
>> arrives?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Karen P
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RE: Strange issue

[Kelly Ford]

I reported this as a bug to Microsoft a while ago. I’ve not had any updates.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2023 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Strange issue

Hello when in outlook and deleting emails from my iPhone, voiceover says item 
deleted and a few seconds later it repeats. This delay makes it a slower 
process when going through emails on the phone. If anyone knows why this is 
happening or how to fix it please let me know.

Thanks



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RE: Question about the Vesync app

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

Can you use this particular device without the app effectively if you don’t 
see? I’ve been wanting to try an air fryer but the few I’ve explored all had 
touch controls that I couldn’t use. I haven’t done extensive research.



From: 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone 
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2023 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about the Vesync app

Cosori Pro 3 Air Fryer
Merv



On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:17 AM, Larry Smith 
mailto:larry.smith...@gmail.com>> wrote:

What is the name of the air fryer that you guys are using with the Vesync app. 
I looked for it on amazon but didn’t find anything called Vesync. This air 
fryer sound interesting. Thanks


On Nov 22, 2023, at 4:44 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Thanks Rick, I think sometimes my messages are not coming through or something. 
I had sent a note saying I found them on the Amazon site just before we ordered 
it. They list 9.4 by 9.4 by 4.8 deep. Close enough to your measurements. Thanks 
again.

Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/





On Nov 22, 2023, at 12:56 PM, Rick Alfaro 
mailto:rick.alf...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Richard and others,

In case you haven't gotten the inner dimensions of the pan yet, here they are 
as per my tape king.
The handled pan is 9.58 inches square by 4.8 inches deep without the crisper 
tray. The crisper tray is inserted at the bottom of the pan and has holes in it 
to allow for grease or liquid through to the bottom if desired.

This was just a quick measurement so probably not as precise it as it could be 
but it should give you a good idea.




Warmest regards,
Rick Alfaro
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 11:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about the Vesync app

Well, they do not recommend more than one layer as the air has to be able to 
circulate around the food.
When they are talking chicken wings, I suspect they mean the kind you would get 
at a bar, which only has the meaty portion and not the little flat wing section.
And since I don't do chicken wings, I don't really know about their sizes.
But, yes, the large basket is geared probably for larger items, including their 
cake pan, bread pan, pizza pan ... we can do enough sweet potato fries or pot 
stickers for two in ours which I think may be a little smaller than yours.

I'd appreciate it if you could get the size of the basket at some point.  NO 
hurry.




Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 
2024.2310.70.400


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about the Vesync app

Sorry, richard. I don’t know the inner dimensions of the pan yet. Can’t find it 
anywhere online, and I forgot to ask my sided spouse, but I shall do so later 
today. Also, and I guess this is really getting off-topic, since it’s not a 
technical question. What the heck is the point of this big pan/basket if you’re 
only supposed to put food in one layer? I get how you could do a chicken, a 
whole big piece of meat whatever.but is it really true that even with the two 
burners you should only put one layer? The pan is substantially smaller than a 
sheet pan, so a whole bunch of chicken wings for instance, which they say you 
can do, how? You probably couldn’t put more than maybe four big chicken wings 
in that basket in one layer. That’s a far cry from I think 17 that they 
advertised. I don’t get it.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 22, 2023, at 6:45 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Good to know Rick.
We probably should get that one, as ours is one of the recalled models, but it 
has been working fine but we know we are using it at our own risk.  My wife 
cannot imagine being without one for 6 weeks or more if we go through the 
replacement process by cutting the cord and submitting a picture and waiting 
until they send us a replacement, which likely would not be the 2 burner 
model...
Christmas is coming. 




Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will 

Re: Wired Earbuds without jell tips for iPhone 15?

[Kelly Ford]

Apple does sell the same basic earbuds with a USB connector instead of a 
lightning connector if that is of any interest.



On Nov 11, 2023, at 12:04 AM, Adam Morris  wrote:


Hi all,
I’m looking for wired earbuds that have either the same design as the Apple 
earpods or the traditional earbuds where the part that went into your ear is 
hard and not the interchangeable ear tips.

Any links appreciated.



Adam Morris
Access Technology Specialist and Instructor
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Re: Amazon App

[Kelly Ford]

As near as I can tell, the issues I’m in countering seem to depend on which 
advertisements you get. There seem to be some videos and other actions on some 
ads that are causing voiceover focus to go all over the place.

On Nov 10, 2023, at 9:42 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:

 Yes, that is accessible
Joseph Hudson

EmailFaceTime/iMessage
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Connect with me on zoom

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On Nov 10, 2023, at 9:39 PM, alban hoxha  wrote:

is accessible amazone app?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Joshua 
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I just recently used the amazon app to order something using my iPhone
13 pro max, and all went very well.

On 11/10/23, Kelly Ford  wrote:
> Is anyone else finding the Amazon app problematic lately? Ads and videos
> seem to grab VoiceOver focus almost all the time.
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Amazon App

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Is anyone else finding the Amazon app problematic lately? Ads and videos seem 
to grab VoiceOver focus almost all the time.

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Re: Apple news, crossword puzzles

[Kelly Ford]

I have had a bit of success and also spoke to Apple support.

So far the best I can determine, you will have the best success by switching 
this game into list-view and then swiping through the clues double tapping on 
the one you want to enter text for. You will not get any indication that you 
are editing that clue. Also, if you delete letters, they are not announced.

Kelly 

> On Nov 8, 2023, at 10:08 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> When I updated my iPhone, it came with a three month subscription to Apple 
> news. Tonight I noticed they added crossword puzzles, but I’m wondering if 
> anyone has figured out how to play these with voiceover?
> 
> When you play a game, if you tap on a button called list view, you can step 
> through the different clues and hear how many blanks there are  but for 
> example, I found no way to properly enter letters.

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Apple news, crossword puzzles

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

When I updated my iPhone, it came with a three month subscription to Apple 
news. Tonight I noticed they added crossword puzzles, but I’m wondering if 
anyone has figured out how to play these with voiceover?

When you play a game, if you tap on a button called list view, you can step 
through the different clues and hear how many blanks there are  but for 
example, I found no way to properly enter letters.

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Audio Destinations Between iPhone and Bluetooth Speakers

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

Does anyone know how things are supposed to work when connecting a Bluetooth 
speaker with respect to voiceover audio? It was my impression that the 
VoiceOver audio should then go to the Bluetooth speaker.

I recently connected a JBL flip six to my phone, and the interesting thing is 
that voiceover audio stayed on the phone while music from apps, such as 
Pandora, Plex and others went to the speaker.  This was actually great, but the 
one app where this didn't work was Amazon Alexa. As soon as I opened that app, 
VoiceOver audio switch to the Bluetooth speaker.

I would love to be in control such that as I said, I can assure music and other 
audio sources go to the Bluetooth speaker when I choose, and independent of 
that I can control where VoiceOver audio goes.  I tried looking under audio 
voiceover settings, but that doesn't seem to let me choose between devices, 
just left/right on a device.

Kelly

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Re: AirPods Pro Audio Question

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Well,

This is very interesting.

I am also running Parallels on my Mac.  The audio goes to mono only when I load 
JAWS inside the parallel VM.  If I don’t run JAWS, then the Mac audio works 
fine, even with Narrator.

Kelly

> On Oct 30, 2023, at 7:09 PM, 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone 
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> I can’t say why they are in Mono. But I can say I had issues with my M1 
> MacBook Pro and the Air Pod Pro 2 USB C edition. I’m using them just fine on 
> the 14 Pro Max but I am no longer using them with the Mac. Audio kept losing 
> voiceover and I would have to shut the Mac down to get it back.
> Merv
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>> On Oct 30, 2023, at 8:05 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> I bought Apple AirPod Pro Second Edition headphones recently and when I 
>> connect them to my iPhone 15 they sound good. When I connect them to an M1 
>> MacBook Air, I’m only getting mono audio. I wonder if anyone has ideas why 
>> the audio isn’t working correctly on the MacBook?
>> 
>> Kelly
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AirPods Pro Audio Question

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

I bought Apple AirPod Pro Second Edition headphones recently and when I connect 
them to my iPhone 15 they sound good. When I connect them to an M1 MacBook Air, 
I’m only getting mono audio. I wonder if anyone has ideas why the audio isn’t 
working correctly on the MacBook?

Kelly

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Phone audio with various headsets

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Hi,

If I connect wired USB-C headphones to my iPhone, and make a phone call, the 
audio for the call goes directly to the Headphones. If I connect a USB-C to 3.5 
mm headphone adapter, and then headphones to that Jack, the audio will not go 
to the Headphones during a call, but stays on the phone. Does anyone know why 
the difference, especially since I am connecting a USB-C device to the phone in 
both cases.

If it matters, both the USB-C, headphones and adapter are made by Apple and I’m 
using the iPhone 15 Pro.

Kelly.

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Re: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

[Kelly Ford]

That is kind of funny to hear describe things as a cozy room. I took a picture 
of my living room, and it called it a cozy room as well.

I was at a restaurant earlier today and tried the same technology on the menu 
and it did a great job at reading everything off the menu

On Sep 25, 2023, at 1:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


The amount of detail you get from Be My AI when you take a picture of a photo, 
painting or even just a room is amazing.
I just randomly snapped a picture towards one side of our bedroom the other day 
and here is what Be My AI described:


The picture shows a cozy room with wooden flooring. On the left side, there is 
a wooden dresser with five drawers and a small TV on top of it. The wall above 
the dresser is plain with a light gray color.

On the right side, there is a window with a white horizontal blind. The window 
has a wooden frame that matches the color of the dresser.

In the bottom right corner, there is a wooden chair with armrests and a 
cushioned seat with a patterned fabric. There are clothes draped over the back 
of the chair.

In the bottom center of the picture, there is a dog lying on a gray mat. The 
dog is light-colored, possibly a Labrador or a similar breed. Next to the dog, 
there is an orange toy.
The room appears to be well-lit with natural light coming from the window.

All of the above is spot on including the fact that I do have a yellow, almost 
white labrador guide dog.
The only "incorrect" description is the small TV, it is in fact my open laptop 
on top of the dresser. But I was holding the phone at about hip height when I 
was lying on my bed and the dresser is a bit higher, only the screen would be 
visible and not the keyboard.

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Subject: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

Note personally identifiable information has been removed.
Subject: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS
Announcing Be My AI with a screenshot of the app demonstrating Be My AI's 
describing capabilities
Hi dennis,

We are thrilled to announce that Be My AI will soon be available to hundreds of 
thousands of Be My Eyes users on iOS devices worldwide!

Thanks to the tremendous work of over 19,000 beta testers and the team at Be My 
Eyes, we’re moving to an open beta phase and releasing Be My AI to our
iPhone users starting this week. Over the next few weeks we will be adding more 
and more users every day, so that soon everyone using an iOS device will
have direct access to our new AI-powered feature. Make sure to keep your app 
updated.

While using Be My AI is not intended to replace a white cane or a guide dog, 
using it in your everyday life is powerful, quick and simple. Once you have
access, open the Be My Eyes app, click on the ‘Be My AI’ tab, and take a 
picture of just about anything. Be My AI will give you a detailed description
of it, and you can chat and ask further questions to get more information. Be 
My AI is available now in any of 19 languages, with more to come.

And don’t worry - if Be My AI can’t answer all your questions, if you want to 
check its results, or if you just need a little more assistance than Be My
AI can provide, you still can easily reach one of our dedicated volunteers, 
just like before.

You can
learn more about Be My AI and how to use it in our new blog post
or by visiting the
Help Center
on our website.

This global release of Be My AI into an open beta test means that hundreds of 
thousands of people will now be able to experience this exciting new tool.
Make sure to share the news with your friends, family and colleagues!

Right now we’ll only be releasing Be My AI with users who use iOS devices. But 
Android users fear not. We are currently in a closed beta test of Be My
AI on Android devices, and we hope to make it more broadly available for open 
beta testing in the coming months. If you are interested in joining the Android
beta test, you can already
sign up for the Android waitlist
in the Be My Eyes app.

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supp...@bemyeyes.com.


And happy exploring!

P.S: Do you know another blind or low-vision person who can benefit from this 
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Be My AI on the Be My Eyes app!
Thank you!

Mike, CEO of Be My Eyes
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Re: Copy Button in Be My AI?

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

If you touch the text and then swipe up and down one of the actions should be 
copy.

On Sep 25, 2023, at 11:54 AM, Mohammad Fazil  wrote:


Hi, Group.
Other day, I found Copy button in Be My AI of Be My Eyes and copied the 
description of my photo given by Be My Eyes.
I can not recall how I found it, could someone, please, remind me where I 
should look for that? Thanks!


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Re: Pro vs Max

[Kelly Ford]

Hi Mary,

The screen on this 15 Pro is pretty much, the same as it was as far as size on 
the 10 R. For me, who does most of my typing with the touch keyboard on the 
phone, it has been the same as typing on the iPhone XR. Those really been no 
change in the experience, so no time to adapt.

As I mentioned, part of the driving factor for me, upgrading, was planning for 
next year‘s releases. I didn’t want to find myself in the case of feeling 
compelled to buy the iPhone 15 Pro next summer, just to use the new operating 
systems, knowing there’d be a new model of the phone out in a few months at 
that point.

Kelly

> On Sep 25, 2023, at 10:26 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Kelly. So with regard to the screen on the 15 Pro, how is it for 
> typing. I’m probably one of the few people who still tap taps with one finger 
> on the keyboard, and after all this time with this phone, I’ve gotten fairly 
> good at it. so I’m just curious about the size of the screen and how long 
> it’s taking you to adjust, unless of course you’re using braille or an 
> external keyboard.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 25, 2023, at 5:35 AM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> I went with the newer phone now, because as I understand it next summer, I 
>> won’t be able to update to the next version of iOS and if that’s going to be 
>> the case, I decided I would get the newer model as early as possible because 
>> I like to run test versions of the next OS release.
>> 
>> I will say the one other thing that I have noticed in how I use my phone 
>> that is faster is the results of dictation being processed if I use the 
>> phone dictation feature for text input.
>> 
>> I am generally someone who likes to keep my existing phone until I’m no 
>> longer able to update the operating system. I had used my iPhone 5S until I 
>> bought the 10R.
>> 
>> I am told that pictures from the 15 are visually noticeably better, but I 
>> don’t really have a way to quantify that. I mean, yes, I understand the 
>> megapixels and such as far as the technical specifics. I don’t know yet, if 
>> that translates to more detail when using the various artificial 
>> intelligence services to describe photos.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2023, at 9:51 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Interesting. I also have a 10 r with which I am quite happy. But I was 
>>> thinking about getting a 15 pro because it’s a lot newer and I thought it 
>>> might have better performance better battery life and the better camera. 
>>> But, Kelly, based on your comments, I’m thinking about not bothering.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2023, at 7:08 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I appreciate all the replies here.
>>>> 
>>>> I did go with the iPhone 15 Pro and have been using it since Friday. I 
>>>> chose the Pro in large part because I prefer the smaller size. That said, 
>>>> so far I’m really not noticing meaningful differences in most tasks 
>>>> between my iPhone 10R and this 15 Pro. Apps might launch a bit faster but 
>>>> VoiceOver performance when moving between items is about the same and 
>>>> add-heavy web sites with videos that play muted by default still seem to 
>>>> bring VoiceOver to very problematic web performance.
>>>> 
>>>> I’m not saying any of this to be critical and it is too early to know 
>>>> about battery performance.
>>>> 
>>>> Kelly
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2023, at 8:36 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi I have not upgraded yet eather. my ishu is what I should choose since 
>>>>> I am running a I phone 8 and my carrier tellus has I phones for 0 dollors 
>>>>> up frunt but of korce you have to pay the taxes. I have herd that the I 
>>>>> phone 14 prow is 151 for taxes. What do people sugest that I get? I have 
>>>>> always gotten a case with mine as well. From Mich. From New Liskeard 
>>>>> Ontario Canada.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> Sent: September 24, 2023 6:17 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: Pro vs Max
>>>>> 
>>>>> I haven't upgraded yet, although am considering the Pro or Max. My 
>>>>> concern is the Max will b

Re: Pro vs Max

[Kelly Ford]

Hi Mary,

I went with the newer phone now, because as I understand it next summer, I 
won’t be able to update to the next version of iOS and if that’s going to be 
the case, I decided I would get the newer model as early as possible because I 
like to run test versions of the next OS release.

I will say the one other thing that I have noticed in how I use my phone that 
is faster is the results of dictation being processed if I use the phone 
dictation feature for text input.

I am generally someone who likes to keep my existing phone until I’m no longer 
able to update the operating system. I had used my iPhone 5S until I bought the 
10R.

I am told that pictures from the 15 are visually noticeably better, but I don’t 
really have a way to quantify that. I mean, yes, I understand the megapixels 
and such as far as the technical specifics. I don’t know yet, if that 
translates to more detail when using the various artificial intelligence 
services to describe photos.

Kelly

> On Sep 24, 2023, at 9:51 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Interesting. I also have a 10 r with which I am quite happy. But I was 
> thinking about getting a 15 pro because it’s a lot newer and I thought it 
> might have better performance better battery life and the better camera. But, 
> Kelly, based on your comments, I’m thinking about not bothering.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2023, at 7:08 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
>> 
>> I appreciate all the replies here.
>> 
>> I did go with the iPhone 15 Pro and have been using it since Friday. I chose 
>> the Pro in large part because I prefer the smaller size. That said, so far 
>> I’m really not noticing meaningful differences in most tasks between my 
>> iPhone 10R and this 15 Pro. Apps might launch a bit faster but VoiceOver 
>> performance when moving between items is about the same and add-heavy web 
>> sites with videos that play muted by default still seem to bring VoiceOver 
>> to very problematic web performance.
>> 
>> I’m not saying any of this to be critical and it is too early to know about 
>> battery performance.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2023, at 8:36 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi I have not upgraded yet eather. my ishu is what I should choose since I 
>>> am running a I phone 8 and my carrier tellus has I phones for 0 dollors up 
>>> frunt but of korce you have to pay the taxes. I have herd that the I phone 
>>> 14 prow is 151 for taxes. What do people sugest that I get? I have always 
>>> gotten a case with mine as well. From Mich. From New Liskeard Ontario 
>>> Canada.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Richard
>>> Sent: September 24, 2023 6:17 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Pro vs Max
>>> 
>>> I haven't upgraded yet, although am considering the Pro or Max. My concern 
>>> is the Max will be too big to fit in a standard  shirt pocket. I hate to 
>>> haul around a case or belt  pouch. For any of you who use the Max, does it 
>>> fit into a shirt pocket? I guess I'll find out when I go to buy a phone.
>>> 
>>> Richard Petty
>>> richard.pe...@earthlink.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Julian
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 4:27 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Pro vs Max
>>> 
>>> I was doing the same thing until I decided to upgrade to the 15 Pro. I so 
>>> wish that they would make a smart battery case for these phones.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2023, at 2:10 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> You made me laugh out loud, Andy.  Thank you so much.
>>>> 
>>>> I have more than a few appliances about which I feel the exact same way, 
>>>> as you.
>>>> 
>>>> With a big smile,
>>>> 
>>>> Mark
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Andy Baracco
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 2:06 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Pro vs Max
>>>> 
>>>> I still have the one i bought with my old iPhone 8 and it still works with 
>>>> the SE 3rd Gen. and you will have to pry it out of my cold dead fingers.
>>>> 
>>>> Andy
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Mes

Re: Pro vs Max

[Kelly Ford]

gt;>> On 9/24/23, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I got an iPhone 14 Pro this past summer. I don't use the battery as 
>>>>> heavily as some of you, but I routinely get two days on one charge, 
>>>>> so I think the odds are good it would last through a whole day if I 
>>>>> did use the GPS extensively for a day. I'm not doubting that the 
>>>>> battery life on the Max is better, just saying it's surprisingly 
>>>>> good on the regular Pro as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Anna
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 23, 2023, at 8:09 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I can't remember the numbers, but the battery life for the plus is 
>>>>>> not like the battery life for the promax. My problem with the 
>>>>>> promax, aside from the price, is the screen size. I can't imagine 
>>>>>> holding this thing in one hand and actually doing stuff on the 
>>>>>> screen like I do with my 10 R.
>>>>>> So
>>>>>> I think the big screens are not good for me. And it looks like 
>>>>>> according to rumors, next year's Apple phones are going to be 
>>>>>> bigger than this year's. I have an iPad mini. I don't need another 
>>>>>> one.
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 23, 2023, at 6:05 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Kelly,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Like Robert stated, the larger models get much, much better 
>>>>>>> battery life.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Before purchasing my beloved 14 Pro Max, I always carried a 
>>>>>>> charging cable with me, when out for a day.  With the Pro Max, I 
>>>>>>> never, ever worry about running out of power in a day, even when 
>>>>>>> using GPS navigation for hours at a time.  The phone is amazing.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I would think that the battery on the Plus models would be as 
>>>>>>> good as the Pro Max but cannot personally confirm this as I do 
>>>>>>> not own a Plus model.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Robert Stigile
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 4:22 PM
>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Pro vs Max
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Kelly
>>>>>>> I  realize you asked about the 15.
>>>>>>> I had to update in February as my 11 pro couldnt hold out nine months!
>>>>>>> I opted for the 14 pro max though a larger screen then the pro.
>>>>>>> I am so glad i did as i get 14-16 hours on one charge!
>>>>>>> This is texting mail constantly whatsapping facebook phone 
>>>>>>> calling and using my hotspot with the braillesense!
>>>>>>> Hope this helps!
>>>>>>> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President National Federation of the 
>>>>>>> Blind of California President San Fernando Valley Chapter
>>>>>>> 818-381-9568
>>>>>>> Kn6uvd
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sep 23, 2023, at 4:11 PM, Kelly Ford 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am curious for those of you who have chosen the 15 Max over 
>>>>>>>> the Pro, what lead you to choose the Max? Battery life or 
>>>>>>>> something else. My understanding is that the biggest differences 
>>>>>>>> are screen size, battery life and the depth for zooming with the 
>>>>>>>> camera.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Kelly
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Dynamic island

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

Does voiceover actually work with dynamic island? I keep hearing it appearing, 
but voiceover just says empty. This is with iOS 17 on an iPhone 15 and the 
first time I have had access to this feature.

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Sony LinkBuds and Pairing

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

I have a bit of a quirky situation. I have a set of Sony LinkBud wireless 
headphones that I’ve used for a couple years with success.

I was going to pair these with my new iPhone but am having a challenge. The 
case for the headphones still seems to charge them just fine but if I hold down 
the reset button to initiate pairing or reset of the pairing information, for 
the listed times for either task, nothing seems to happen.

According to instructions, there should be different LED lights for various 
modes. Sighted assistance tells me there is no lighting showing up.

I am hesitant to delete the pairing information from my old phone, where the 
headphones still work since it doesn’t seem like so far I’m able to initiate  a 
new pairing request and or delete existing pairing info from the headphones. So 
if I delete the pairing info from the older phone, I’m likely to end up with 
headphones that no longer can be used.

Does anyone else have experience with these headphones? The reset button is a 
small circular button just to the left of the USB-C port on the back side of 
the headphone case.

I’m thinking the answer is no but on the off chance someone knows of some 
second way to start a pairing request or reset the pairing info on the 
headphones, I thought I’d ask. According to online instructions and what I’ve 
done for years, a new pairing request is started by holding the reset button 
for five seconds with the headphone case open. A complete factory reset is 15 
seconds for the same button.

I’ve done both with success several times over the years.

Kelly

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Pro vs Max

[Kelly Ford]

I am curious for those of you who have chosen the 15 Max over the Pro, what 
lead you to choose the Max? Battery life or something else. My understanding is 
that the biggest differences are screen size, battery life and the depth for 
zooming with the camera.

Kelly


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Re: Deleting email in Outlook app

[Kelly Ford]

I hope those of you experiencing this will report this to Microsoft.
On Sep 23, 2023, at 1:53 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

I’ve seen this as well on my iPhone 12 running IOS 16.6.1. This is my work 
phone, and I don’t use it to check my email much, but when I’m traveling and 
just using my iPhone, I agree it drives me crazy!

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of William James
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Subject: Re: Deleting email in Outlook app

On both my iPhone 12 Pro Max and iPad Air 5, I get the same behavior you do 
from Outlook.  I have already made a suggestion that we have an option to turn 
off this notification.  Hints are also off.  Outlook is the same version on 
both devices.  The os is the same.  Hopefully Microsoft will give us the 
opportunity to turn off that feature or it’s gonna drive me to drink!


Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

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Subject: Deleting email in Outlook app

Hi,

So this is interesting. Using Microsoft outlook email app on my iPhone X, when 
I delete a message, I hear immediately message deleted a short pause, and then 
the next message to get focus in the message list starts to read.


On the iPhone 15 I have the same experience but shortly after the new message 
to gain focused starts to read, I am interrupted by another message, saying 
something about message deleted, shake to undo. It consistently interrupts the 
reading of the new message with focus.

Both phones are running the latest release of iOS 17.

As far as I know, all voice settings are the same on both phones.

Kelly

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Fwd: USB-C Headphones

[Kelly Ford]

Apologies if this is a duplicate, but I didn't see this  show up on the list 
yesterday and see notes about the server being down. Kelly.

From: Kelly Ford
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2023 4:50:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: USB-C Headphones

Hello,

With the iPhone 15 requiring USB-C headphones if you want to use something that 
is wired and not an adapter, I’m curious what others have found as far as good 
headphones in the space? I like to have at least one low-cost set of headphones 
for my devices because the wires often wear out by putting the headphones in 
and out of my pocket and such.

I did purchase the headphones at the following link from Amazon for just under 
$10 and so far they have been working well.

USB C Headphones,USB Type C... 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09ZV1KQ3F?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

I have higher quality, wireless headphones for music and media listening, but 
these work well for just basic text access. One nice thing that wasn’t obvious 
to me from the description is these are magnetic at the end where the earbuds 
are, which helps reduce clutter and tangling.

As I said, I’m curious what others are finding in the space.

Kelly.

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Deleting email in Outlook app

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

So this is interesting. Using Microsoft outlook email app on my iPhone X, when 
I delete a message, I hear immediately message deleted a short pause, and then 
the next message to get focus in the message list starts to read.


On the iPhone 15 I have the same experience but shortly after the new message 
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reading of the new message with focus.

Both phones are running the latest release of iOS 17.

As far as I know, all voice settings are the same on both phones.

Kelly


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Re: Looking for easy to use NFL scores app

[Kelly Ford]

One note about this app.

I’ve noticed that after an update, there is typically a description of what’s 
changed near the bottom of the screen.  VoiceOver doesn’t necessarily tell you 
about this but you’ll try and change to a particular sport and it won’t change. 
So find the update info near the bottom of the screen and dismiss it.

Kelly


> On Jul 27, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the link Scott.  That looks to be a very good app for getting 
> scores from my initial look at it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Scott 
> Davert
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2023 10:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Looking for easy to use NFL scores app
> 
> I mostly only use it for scores, but Sports Alerts will do what you want. I 
> know that's a rather generic name for the app, so here's a link.
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/sports-scores-alerts/id432450349?ign-mpt=uo%3D4
> 
> Good luck,
> Scott
> 
> On 7/26/23, Kelly Ford  wrote:
>> The two I use that have the least amount of clutter are Yahoo Sports 
>> and another called Sports Alerts.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 26, 2023, at 6:15 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. I'm looking for an easy to use app for the upcoming NFL season. 
>> I'm not looking for something to hear games on, since I have a Sirius 
>> XM subscription. Also, I'm not interested in stats or fantasy, just 
>> scores and alerts for various teams. These alerts would be at the 
>> start of a game, when the score is close toward the end, and for games 
>> going into overtime, as well as the final score. I have tried several 
>> apps but haven't found one which is totally accessible or that isn't 
>> overloaded with a lot of extra content, such as the ESPN app. Aside 
>> from those things, anyone have any suggestions?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Wayne
>> 
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Re: NFL App Accessibility

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

I’ve seen no indication that the iOS app will be any better for accessibility 
this year. I tried it again just yesterday.

Kelly


> On Jul 26, 2023, at 10:06 PM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
> 
> Hi Group,
> 
> Since someone else on list mentioned NFL alerts, I am wondering if anyone has 
> tried the NFL app and if it is still largely inaccessible when it comes to 
> accessing radio feeds.
> 
> A little history: I used the NFL App for radio feeds from back in 2005 to 
> 2020. It was largely accessible if a bit clumsy, but once you learned how to 
> use it and what to expect, you could access the radio feeds as well as the 
> archives of the radio feeds back to 2004.
> 
> In the Fall of 2020, they changed something. They put some sort of overlay on 
> the tab that contained the radio feed link/buttons.  This made them invisible 
> to VoiceOver.  I tried contacting the NFL accessibility phone (which did not 
> work in 2020-2022) and also the e-mail--which I finally got a response from 
> after literally 2 years of attempts.  The response was less than impressive 
> stating the NFL's commitment to accessibility. I even contacted the NFL app 
> developer via the app store and got no response. I also called the NFL 
> headquarters and was able to get as far as the voice mail of the digital 
> product production manager. I left a detailed message and got no response.
> 
> In any case, has anyone tried it this year? I have the app on my iPhone that 
> has been recently auto-updated, but I am not subscribed this year--fearing 
> that I might have to try to get a refund as I did in 2021 via a threatened 
> suit with Pay Pal.
> 
> Any info would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Looking for easy to use NFL scores app

[Kelly Ford]

The two I use that have the least amount of clutter are Yahoo Sports and 
another called Sports Alerts.

Kelly


On Jul 26, 2023, at 6:15 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:

Hi. I'm looking for an easy to use app for the upcoming NFL season. I'm not 
looking for something to hear games on, since I have a Sirius XM subscription. 
Also, I'm not interested in stats or fantasy, just scores and alerts for 
various teams. These alerts would be at the start of a game, when the score is 
close toward the end, and for games going into overtime, as well as the final 
score. I have tried several apps but haven't found one which is totally 
accessible or that isn't overloaded with a lot of extra content, such as the 
ESPN app. Aside from those things, anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,
Wayne

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Voiceover command question

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

I was assigning a braille keyboard command  and received the following message 
about the key combination already being signed to an existing command. Does 
anyone know what this command actually does?

‘Dot 1 + Dot 6 + Space bar’ is already being used to perform the 
‘VOTEventCommandWordDescription’ command.

Do you want to replace this command?

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Re: Aiko, new audio to text iOS app From Applevis.com

[Kelly Ford]

Interesting app. I tried it on the most recent episode of my podcast from 
tptbnl.com. I usually use Office Online’s transcription 
feature and more recently the same technology added to Word For Windows.

The positive, this is very accurate. It seems to take as long as the audio file 
is though. My 52 minute audio file is at 40% and has taken 20 minutes so far. 
That is on an iPhone 10R so newer models may be faster.

Looking in settings, I find that you can have timestamps for the transcript but 
I don’t see the ability at this point to have speaker identification.

You can record audio or import from your iPhone or different online services.

Overall, this is pretty impressive to get this level of transcription accuracy 
on the phone.

Kelly


On Apr 30, 2023, at 6:50 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

I read about this today in the AppleVis newsletter.
Note, the app is 2 GB in size.  I have not tried it, but I know some folks have 
wanted a good transcription app from audio to text.

Description from the app store followed by the link.
High-quality on-device transcription. Easily convert speech to text from 
meetings, lectures, and more.
The transcription is powered by OpenAI's Whisper running locally on your 
device. The audio never leaves your device. You can export the transcription as 
subtitles too. Aiko favors accuracy over speed.
Supports 100 different languages: Afrikaans, Albanian, Amharic, Arabic, 
Armenian, Assamese, Azerbaijani, Bangla, Bashkir, Basque, Belarusian, Bosnian, 
Breton, Bulgarian, Burmese, Catalan, Chinese, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, 
English, Estonian, Faroese, Finnish, French, Galician, Georgian, German, Greek, 
Gujarati, Haitian Creole, Hausa, Hawaiian, Hebrew, Hindi, Hungarian, Icelandic, 
Indonesian, Italian, Japanese, Javanese, Kannada, Kazakh, Khmer, Korean, Lao, 
Latin, Latvian, Lingala, Lithuanian, Luxembourgish, Macedonian, Malagasy, 
Malay, Malayalam, Maltese, Marathi, Mongolian, Māori, Nepali, Norwegian, 
Norwegian Nynorsk, Occitan, Pashto, Persian, Polish, Portuguese, Punjabi, 
Romanian, Russian, Sanskrit, Serbian, Shona, Sindhi, Sinhala, Slovak, 
Slovenian, Somali, Spanish, Swahili, Swedish, Tagalog, Tajik, Tamil, Tatar, 
Telugu, Thai, Tibetan, Turkish, Turkmen, Ukrainian, Urdu, Uzbek, Vietnamese, 
Welsh, Yiddish, Yoruba
The app was made possible thanks to Whisper by OpenAI and whisper.cpp by Georgi 
Gerganov.
■ FAQ ‣ Can I edit the text in the app? I don't plan to support any editing. 
Export the transcription and edit it in a proper text editor.
‣ Why is the app so large? The app delivers the highest quality transcription 
on the market for 100 different languages. Rather than asking why it's so 
large, the real question is how is it so small.
‣ Why is the transcription so slow? The favors accuracy over speed. However, 
performance is expected to improve in the coming months.
‣ Can I delete some of the languages to save space? This is unfortunately not 
possible. The model has all the languages stored together in a way that makes 
it impossible to remove just some languages. More FAQs on the website.
■ Technical details The app uses the Whisper medium or small model depending on 
available memory.
■ Support You can contact me through the feedback button in the app or at 
sindresor...@gmail.com

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RE: OverDrive app being retired

[Kelly Ford]

Yes, you can definitely transfer books to Kindle.  Basically, when you check 
the book out from the library, there is an option to read in Libby or Kindle.  
When you choose Kindle, an Amazon page opens with a button to get the book and 
it is then available in your Kindle app.  I use this fairly often.




From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 8:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: OverDrive app being retired

My local library had an article in the March newsletter saying Overdrive is 
being discontinued by the developer at the end of April. We are being told to 
use Libby instead.  One thing I noticed when I was reading the benefits listed 
for Libby is that it says you can transfer books to Kindle. I haven’t 
researched it to see if that means the Kindle app, wherein we could use 
VoiceOver.  I don’t have the time to read more now, but saved this Libby help 
link and wanted to share, so others aren’t surprised by the news.

https://help.libbyapp.com/en-us/index.htm

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Tot, Another Handy App from The Iconfactory

[Kelly Ford]

Hey,

I’ve appreciated the dedication to accessibility from the maker of Twitterific 
for so many years and it really disappoints me the way Twitter has treated them 
and other developers.  Loading Twitterific one last time before I removed it 
from my phone, I noticed the company prompting some of their other apps.

They have a handy text editor called Tot.  More details are at:

Tot • Your tiny text companion

It is a straight forward simple text editor that works on the iPhone, Mac and 
watch.  By design it is limited to seven documents that you can jot things down 
in, copy and and such.  On my Mac, cmd+1-7 switches between the seven documents.

The app is not free but this is one I was happy to purchase both as a new tool 
to explore and to give a tiny bit of support to the company.

Kelly

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RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

[Kelly Ford]

I use Sony Link Bud S wireless headphones and find the ambient sound option 
works well. This is on top of the noise cancellation and general sound quality.



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Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

In addition to my AirPod Pros, I have a pair from EarFun which are quite a bit 
cheaper and have more features than the original AirPod Pros. I'd strongly 
recommend the EarFun's.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 5:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

I don't use earbuds all that much.  I'm more a fan of headphones that are over 
the ear.  However, I do have a set of AKG earbuds I accidentally bought from 
Ebay.  They are pretty good, although I want to get another set from anker that 
is better.  I won't be purchasing a set of the apple airpods as they are way to 
over priced in my opinion.
I do have the airpods max headphones that I really do like as a set of over the 
ear headphones.

On 1/8/23, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> Hello Bill,
>
> I have the 2Nd generation AirPods here and Find My can be used to play 
> a sound when the AirPods are out of the case or when they are in the 
> case with the case open.  When they are in the case and it is closed 
> sound cannot be played.
>
> Hope this helps you.
>
> Malcolm Parfitt
>
>> On 8 Jan 2023, at 10:57, William Outman  wrote:
>>
>> Good morning, Mark and all.
>> I am making that same transition with my 8 Plus, also in hopes of 
>> doing that same phone transition eventually. I bought mine at 
>> Walmart, and it helped I had a $50 gift card to defray the cost. They 
>> also had wired ear buds available. I still have a set of those that came 
>> with the phone.
>> I have listened to the tutorial from Mystic Access I ws referred to a 
>> few days ago.  I wish their presentation had been a bit smoother as 
>> they were trying to do things a bit too much on the fly.
>> They were discussing the Pro second generation rather than just 
>> second generation. A bit confusing. I wonder if the plain second 
>> generation set has the function where the case and pods beep function 
>> that makes them easier to find. That would alleviate the concern of 
>> losing them a bit. I understand there are different tips that might 
>> give a better fit in the ears as well.
>> I have replaced a knockoff brand of wireless ear buds that weren’t 
>> controllable nor did they have any way to be found easily. That’s an 
>> even bigger deal if you are blind, I think.
>> One thing I don’t like is the box has the model number on it but 
>> never says second generation on it. I had Aira look it up and confirm 
>> the store had told me correctly they are the Apple AirPods second generation.
>> I haven’t tried to use them other than pairing, so this thread 
>> reminds me to go ahead and dive in.
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jan 8, 2023, at 4:36 AM, Malcolm Parfitt 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I bought a set of Apple Airpods 2Nd generation before I went into 
>>> hospital for a lapiscropic nephrectomy in 2020.  I find they give me 
>>> a good balance between quality of music and the ability to maintain 
>>> my awareness of my surroundings.  I can walk around the house with 
>>> them unlike many headphones I have tried in the past.
>>>
>>> The only issue I have is that although I’ve used them equally they 
>>> appear to discharge at different rates.  My iPhone will often report 
>>> quite a significant difference in charge level between the left and 
>>> right Airpod.
>>>
>>> They charge via their case and provided this remains charged I get 
>>> perfectly acceptable listening time between charges.
>>>
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>>
> On 8 Jan 2023, at 06:56, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

 I'd take a set of Airpods maybe if somebody gave them to me along 
 with $20.
 I hate having anything stuck inside my ear further than the wired 
 Earpods, they happen to fit me great and I don't even have to push 
 them in hard and they just stay in place.
 I also wouldn't be caught dead spending the kind of money on two 
 little things which only last 5 or 6 hours and which I am bound to 
 loose sooner or later.
 Now keep in mind that this is strictly my take, I know many of  you 
 love them and that's fine, then of course if I did spend the money 
 on them I'd also say I love them.
 As for wearing something in bed when you most likely will fall 
 asleep there is nothing better than those sleep headbands which 
 have a set of very thin speakers on each side over your ear and a 
 little control pod on  your forehead with 3 buttons for volume 
 up/down and play/pause in the middle. Of course if 

Re: With iOS 16.2, continuous reading in emails or webpages is awful.

[Kelly Ford]

For me this issue is a constant when I use Eloquence.  For example, I can read 
only about three pages in a Kindle book before speech stops. Pretty much any 
news article I read or other content of more then a few paragraphs has the same 
happen.

If I don't use Eloquence, the problem of speech stopping goes away.

Kelly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Richard 
Turner 
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2023 9:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: With iOS 16.2, continuous reading in emails or webpages is awful.

I have not noticed a change. There have been times for many versions when 
something in an article or web page stops VO.
Could you maybe give one or two links that demonstrate this behavior.
It has not happened often enough for me to be bothered by it, but if it is 
happening a lot; I would also send example links to Apple of course.




Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com


On Jan 5, 2023, at 4:02 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:

I have noticed this with my iPhone SE 2020

Devin Prater

On Jan 4, 2023, at 8:39 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Ever since upgrading to iOS 16, I have noticed that continuous reading, 
invoked with the two finger swipe down, is really bad. I used to be able to 
read hugely long articles, but now it stops all the time. It seems to be 
triggered by stupid punctuation things like bullets, as if I care. Does anybody 
else notice this serious degradation in the ability to just read an article 
without all the nonsense stop and start. The point of continuous reading is, 
well, continuous reading. I have noticed this on an iPad mini six and my iPhone 
X r. It’s really seriously annoying.


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Re: Reading Kindle Books in Braille

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

That is what I thought but at least for me this doesn’t seem to work correctly. 
I’m using an up-to-date iOS 16 with a Mantis Q40.



On Dec 31, 2022, at 12:27 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:


Make sure the turn pages while panning option in VoiceOver's Braille settings 
is turned on.
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com<mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>




On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 9:47 AM Kelly Ford 
mailto:kellford1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,


Could someone remind me what you need to do to read a Kindle book in braille 
with VoiceOver? Specifically, how do you move to the next page in a book.

When I use panning keys I can read through the text on a given page but that 
doesn’t seem to cross to the next page. And the next item command doesn’t bring 
up the next page.


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Reading Kindle Books in Braille

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,


Could someone remind me what you need to do to read a Kindle book in braille 
with VoiceOver? Specifically, how do you move to the next page in a book.

When I use panning keys I can read through the text on a given page but that 
doesn’t seem to cross to the next page. And the next item command doesn’t bring 
up the next page.


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GPS App With Specific Details

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

I use a range of GPS apps and web sites but have not found one that has some 
details I’d like to have at times. I am curious if anyone has found such.

For example, in planning a route, I’d like to schedule stops based on time 
travelled so if I’m going to be on a 20 hour drive I can say I want to stop 
every 8 hours and have the route planned based on those stops.

Most of these apps also give you the turns and connections you are going to 
make.  Sometimes they’ll tell you when you are crossing into another state. I’d 
like an option that would list some for of the cities I’m passing along the way.

Today I tend to get most of these details, especially from the second category, 
by using an app called Exit.  It lists the different exits along an interstate, 
what’s at the exit and typically gives you an idea of the city.

Kelly

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Mantis Q40 and VoiceOver, space not working

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

I am wondering if anyone has an idea on an issue I’m having with a Mantis Q40 
and iOS.

Braille works for output and  typing text works but for the spacebar. When I 
enter a space on the Mantis, nothing is entered  in to the program I’m using. I 
have to use the touch keyboard on the phone.

 

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Maps in iOS Weather App

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

Has anyone found a way to get meaningful info from the maps in the weather app? 
You can turn on an overlay with different info such as temp, precipitation and 
more.

It would be great if you could drag your finger around and hear something 
related to the overlay, either in text or with a sonic representation.

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Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

For what it is worth, I do have my Apple TV plugged into the HDMI port of my 
receiver.  This is a Marantz receiver.  This works fine with the Apple device 
and does not require my TV to be connected or on for the Apple device to work.  
The Apple device is the newest 4K unit.


> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
> what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version which 
> arrived last week.
> 
> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and 
> the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% 
> faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a 
> sound only system.
> 
> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
> Friday and will report back on what happens.
> 
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
>> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
>> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
>> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these gadgets 
>> I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, hook it 
>> up to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has and see 
>> if it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund or look 
>> into whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it work.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Matthew Bullis
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>> 
>> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You 
>> connect an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your 
>> audio out through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or 
>> gaming consoles don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have 
>> them for some external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:
>> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... 
>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:
>> 
>> I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. 
>> We scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not 
>> wanted. However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out 
>> differently, please let me know.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930
>>> 
>>> I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just 
>>> trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.
>>> 
>>> I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our 
>>> Smart TV in our living room...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:58 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know if the Apple TV will work if it is plugged directly into a 
>>>  soundbar such as one of the Sonos devices rather than into a  tv and 
>>> thence to a soundbar?
>>> 
>>> I am trying to create a TV sound receiver for a small bedroom and don't 
>>> want a  full sized TV screen as I can't see it anyway.
>>> 
>>> I am suspicious that the Apple TV box will complain because it can't see a 
>>> display device..
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Gary
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Keyboard access and braille display

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

I was experimenting a bit with turning on the accessibility setting for full 
keyboard access and moving around the iPhone and several applications. This was 
working fine with a Bluetooth keyboard.

However, as soon as I then turned on a braille display, the keyboard access 
quit working from the Bluetooth keyboard. Does anyone know if this is how 
things are supposed to work?

Kelly
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RE: NFL and iOS App

[Kelly Ford]

Here is what I had to do.

1. Get to the list of games.
2. Double tap on the game I wanted.
3. Slide my finger to the right edge of the screen where that game was located.
4. Lift my finger a bit but keep track of the physical location.
5. Turn off VoiceOver.
6. Touch the right edge of the screen where the game is located.
7. Turn back on VoiceOver.


Now you will be able to read the buttons for the different broadcasts.


It would appear that the NFL is using some graphic that isn't read by screen 
readers to create the three dots that are shown visibly here to bring up these 
buttons.  A similar issue happens on the web site but there, they did add a tab 
stop to the unread graphic.

Kelly



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Christopher Chaltain
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL and iOS App

Here's what I posted to the list earlier. I've used the NFL app in the past, 
and I tried it again during the preseason with the seven day free trial. It's 
doable but not very accessible.

OK, I signed up for the NFL Plus free trial, and things worked pretty much as 
they did the season before last season. Here's what I did:
1.  I brought up the NFL app.
2.  I had to go into the Scores tab to get a game started. I couldn't 
figure out how to do this from the NFL Plus tab.
3.  In the Scores tab, I double tapped on the game I was interested in. In 
this case, it was the Giants at Patriots.
4.  I then had to double tap on the Watch tab.
5.  Here I could double tap on the home broadcast, which was the Patriots, 
or I could double tap on the listen live options, where I could double tap on 
the away feed.
6.  At this point the broadcast comes up, but you won't hear anything 
because the audio volume is set to 0. I unmuted the audio by hitting the volume 
up button.
7.  Now you can listen to the game but the player is totally inaccessible, 
so there's no way to play/pause or fast forward/rewind.

Like I said, this was pretty much how things worked the season before last. 
Last season, the problem was that the volume buttons wouldn't unmute the audio, 
so there was no way for me to listen to the game unless I had a sighted person 
around who could tap on the unmute button in the inaccessible player.

SiriusXM is a much more enjoyable way to listen to a game, but it is $12 
instead of $5 a month. I did see the option in the Watch tab to relisten to a 
game, but I haven't tried that yet!

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Ford
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 12:44 PM
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Subject: NFL and iOS App

I am curious if anyone else has the NFL plus subscription and has tried it on 
the iPhone with the NFL app? this is supposed to give you video and audio for 
all of the games. I can play a game, but I do not appear to be able to find a 
way to switch for example, between the television or radio broadcasts, or if 
only the radio option is available, between different broadcast, such as home 
and away.

If anyone else has tried this app, and has suggestions, let me know.

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NFL and iOS App

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I am curious if anyone else has the NFL plus subscription and has tried it on 
the iPhone with the NFL app? this is supposed to give you video and audio for 
all of the games. I can play a game, but I do not appear to be able to find a 
way to switch for example, between the television or radio broadcasts, or if 
only the radio option is available, between different broadcast, such as home 
and away.

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Re: Accessible App for a Good Robot Vacuum Machine

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

I have a Roomba and the app they use works well with VoiceOver for the most 
part.  I say that because the app does have some mapping functions where you 
can make adjustments to what is learned about your environment i.e. naming 
rooms or adjusting boundaries.  Those functions do not work well.  If other 
brands and apps do a good job at the accessibility of this aspect, I’ve not 
heard of it.

I worked around this by sharing my details for the Roomba app with a trusted 
resource and had them sign in and make adjustments.  Once that was done, I 
could schedule cleanings for individual rooms.

Roomba also has good integration with Amazon’s Alexa.  So you can also issue 
cleaning commands by Voice.

Although you didn’t ask about this, the other thing I will say is that the 
Roomba is easy to maintain as far as the physical cleaning and such the device 
needs from time to time.

Kelly
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Aleeha 
Dudley 
Date: Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 11:12 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Re: Accessible App for a Good Robot Vacuum Machine
Hi,
Tha app for the Shark robot seems to be pretty good, although mine’s not set up 
yet. I just bought it on prime Day.
Hope that helps,
Aleeha


On Jun 27, 2021, at 10:45 AM, Danny Leung 
mailto:dlng321.mob...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi listers,

I am planning to purchase a wireless Robot vacuum machine. If you own one, may 
I know your pinion and recommendation? You can email me privately if needed.

I am most interest to know about the accessibility of the app; the model that 
is worth the value. And everything’s else.

Thanks in advance for your input.


Grateful for you!
Danny


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Stopping Microphone sound in wireless headphones

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

I don’t know if anyone has an idea or if what I want is even possible. I am 
trying some beats flex wireless headphones. Anytime that the microphone is 
enabled with these headphones, I hear a bit of microphone sound  through the 
headphones, almost like a recording studio audeo monitor function or something. 
 I have never heard this with wired headphones and obviously would prefer not 
to have it when using dictation or a audio phone call of any sort.  Currently 
as soon as the microphone is turned on, you can hear it Kickin in the 
headphones.

Kelly


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RE: Honeywell t6 Thermostat question

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

I have been able to get mine back online with the helpof AIRA or something 
similar.  Most often somehow the app has lost the wi-fi connection.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 3:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Honeywell t6 Thermostat question


Hi,

I hope this finds all happy and well. I have a question for those that have 
this thermostat or ones similar to it.  If the app reports that it's offline is 
there a way a blind person either independently or with the help of Aira can 
get the thing back online? Everything else here is working just fine.

Thanks for any help you could send my way. I'm just not having a good 
technology related week at all.

Take good care.

Robin


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Re: Expedia App and VoiceOver

[Kelly Ford]

Thank you.

I have reported this to Expedia but so far has not heard back.

Kelly


> On Jan 2, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
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> Yes I have noticed the same thing. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 2, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> Has anyone else encountered problems using the Expedia app with VoiceOver 
>> lately?  When I am browsing a list of hotels after a search, I frequently 
>> use swipe right gestures.  This used to work fine.
>> 
>> Now, however, I can only use this method to view the first three hotels.  I 
>> must then issue a scroll gesture to get the next three hotels.  And at that 
>> point I have to touch the hotel names directly to keep reading the names.
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>> I am running iOS 13.3 on an iPhone 10R.
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Expedia App and VoiceOver

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

Has anyone else encountered problems using the Expedia app with VoiceOver 
lately?  When I am browsing a list of hotels after a search, I frequently use 
swipe right gestures.  This used to work fine.

Now, however, I can only use this method to view the first three hotels.  I 
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I am running iOS 13.3 on an iPhone 10R.

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Latest Texas Hold’em update

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The update description for the latest release of Apple’s Texas Hold’em game 
mentions VoiceOver improvements. I am finding the opposite with none of the 
automatic announcements happening from the game. What are others finding?

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Reviews in Yelp

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Hi,

It has been a few weeks or so since I have used yelp on the iPhone. Today I was 
looking for a restaurant and noticed it in the place where all the review text 
used to be voiceover is now silent. Our other is experiencing this?

Kelly

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Hulu App

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Hello,

What sort of success have people had using the Hulu app with VoiceOver?  I can 
make some selections but when it gets down to the most critical, I do not seem 
to be able to activate items.

For example, I can select the browse tab and then networks. At that point there 
is a list of categories such as live entertainment sports and such. But when I 
try and activate one of those items, which would lead to networks under that 
category, double tapping does nothing.


As another example, I can activate the my stuff tab but then the categories of 
items under that are not able to be activated with a double tap using voiceOver

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NFL Mobile App and Live Streams

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

 

Has anyone figured out how to start the live streams for NFL games in the
NFL mobile app?  I have a subscription to their field pass option to get
audio from the games but during the preseason was never able to figure out
how to use the app well enough to get audio to work.

 

Kelly

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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

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Has anyone figured out how to switch from the video to the radio feed? 



 On Aug 12, 2015, at 8:54 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm not sure what you mean by the audio descriptions are an after thought.
 
 Audio pass streamed the radio broadcasts heard in the local markets. I don't 
 think this is an after thought. They're the same radio broadcasts anyone in 
 the local market would hear, whether they're blind or sighted.
 
 If you mean including radio broadcasts in the same package as the video 
 broadcasts, instead of splitting them out separately, then although I'd like 
 to see this happen myself, I suspect it wasn't so much an afterthought as 
 instead a way of consolidating the delivery mechanism into one 
 implementation. I personally plan on letting the NFL know that I'd rather pay 
 for an audio only option, like we had with AudioPass, and I may be passing on 
 the video package. Maybe if the NFL gets enough such feedback, they'll 
 include an audio only option in the streaming package.
 
 If you're saying that the audio you get during a game is an afterthought then 
 I'd disagree. They broadcasted an NFL game with no audio a few years ago, and 
 it was a total flop. People, including sighted people, like the real time 
 analysis of the game that you get during a TV broadcast. For me, I don't find 
 the radio announcers so good or the TV announcers so bad that listening to a 
 game on TV is a waste of my time as compared to a radio broadcast. I can 
 usually follow a game just fine on TV, and I'll often listen to a nationally 
 televised game of my favorite team when it's shown in my area over the homers 
 on the radio broadcast.
 
 On 08/12/2015 11:37 AM, Alan Paganelli wrote:
 My wife is telling me go ahead and buy the hundred dollar package if it gets 
 you the audio content.  I'm not going to do it.  I didn't have a problem 
 with the audiopass at 40 bucks.  But when you insist on getting a more 
 expensive package because most people want the video and the audio 
 descriptions are at best an after thought, no way.
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On Aug 11, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Nicki keck jesusgir...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I agree.  If I can't get the radio play-by-play, then forget it.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Alan Paganelli
 Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 3:13 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Listening to football on the TV is a waste of time.  You hear the croud 
 cheer and the announcer says would you look at that!  He's up to the 27 
 yard line.  That was one heck of a run.  You don't hear thing one about how 
 the team lines up etc.  For me, watching NFL football on TV is useless.
 
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No, 40 bucks isn’t bad, but if you don’t care about the TV broadcasts, 
 then $99 is a ripoff just for the audio feeds.
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 2:04 PM, Alan Paganelli 
 alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 Actually,last season I had the full audiopass.  I could listen to any 
 team as well as choose which feed I wanted either from the home team or 
 from the visitors broadcast.  Of course when my bears werre playing, I 
 listened to the bears broadcast team but it was fun to listen to the home 
 or away teams.  I had the full package which let me listen starting with 
 preseason through the super bowl and I didn't think 40 bucks was bad.
 
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I did read the page, and in particular, the audio section where it said:
 
 Listen live to every NFL game - including the Playoffs and Super
 Bowl 50
 
 Also, the old AudioPass subscription required an additional upgrade to 
 get the playoff games.
 
 On 08/10/2015 09:03 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
 If you read the details on that page, in particular the section after 
 platforms with the asterisk, it specifically says it does not include 
 regular season live broadcasts, or the super bowl.
 It also does not mention iOS devices though it says it is coming soon 
 to Apple TV.
 Richard
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:36 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
 chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you follow the link below, there's still a section on audio.
 https://www.nfl.com/gamepass
 
 On 08/09/2015 10:05 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
 It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was
 told this by several of my football fan friends. I have been a
 subscriber for years, and was curious as to why I didn't receive
 my normal annual renewal notice. Also, there is no longer any
 link for Audio Pass on the NFL.COM site. i guess it's gone.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Hi,
 
 With another

Audio in NFL Mobile

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has figured 
out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile version of the NFL 
app? Playing around with this little bit this afternoon, I'm not finding a way 
to start the game audio.

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RE: TuneIn question

[Kelly Ford]

I've never needed to have an account with this app either for what it is worth.

Kelly

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Well, I use TuneIn on my 5S under 8.1.2 and haven't had to create an account. I 
don't think it's mandatory. 

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Yeah.  I was using TuneIn all the time before the upgrade to my new iPhone, and 
when I get the newer version on the upgrade, it began wanting my account info.  
I've not used it since, and I really do like it.  Something about the principle 
of it all more than anything.


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I couldn't agree more. I hate all these sites that want you to create an 
account (giving all your details) for no really good reason. There are a number 
of recipe sites that do this. Now you could really get me started about those 
sites that ask for so much info before allowing you anything--but I'd best stop 
here!:)

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To:  viphone@googlegroups.com
CC: 
Date: Sunday, 4 January 2015 6.20 pm
Subject: RE: TuneIn question



 I know.  It's not a matter of creating an account.  I just don't want to have 
 to deal with another account for an app that used to work fine without it.
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Flor Lynch
 Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 9.51 AM
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 Subject: Re: TuneIn question
  
 I know that creating an account there is easy enough to do on your PC.
  
 From: Jim Portillo 
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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: TuneIn question
 Hi,
  
 Is there any way of using TuneIn without having to log in or create an 
 account or anything of the sort?  I don't remember having to do this until I 
 got a new version of TuneIn.
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Experience with Kinomap or other Exercise Apps and Physical Equipment

[Kelly Ford]

Hello,

 

Does anyone have experience with a series of apps called Kinomap or other
fitness apps and physical equipment such as tred mills or bikes?

 

I was looking at a fitness bike and it was mostly a touch screen as many
are.  The folks at the Precore store thought that I might be able to control
the device from my iPhone with some apps called Kinomap.

 

Looking at the app descriptions for apps at
https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/kinomap-sas/id320756493 I'm not sure.

 

Has anyone used any of this equipment?

 

Kelly

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iOS and a smiling Face

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Hello,

Is this new to iOS 8 or something I just never noticed before? I needed a 
picture of myself so took one. What was new to me was that when viewing the 
photo VO now read Face 1: smiling when I touched the picture.

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Re: iOS and a smiling Face

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Yes, this really does seem to be happening. I'm not sure what other types of 
faces are communicated? a bit more experimentation today I heard at least one 
other type where it said face one blinking



 On Sep 19, 2014, at 5:26 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Really? That's cool, and as far as I know, new to iOS8.
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:08 AM, Kelly Ford ke...@kellford.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Hello,
 
 Is this new to iOS 8 or something I just never noticed before? I needed a 
 picture of myself so took one. What was new to me was that when viewing the 
 photo VO now read Face 1: smiling when I touched the picture.
 
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RE: NFL Mobile

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

You can likely also submit issues through the email address of
audiopass.supp...@nfl.com.  I submitted several issues through that method
and it resulted in an open support request.  No human contact back yet on
the issues.

Kelly

-Original Message-
From: Andy Baracco [mailto:w...@socal.rr.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile

These apps, as well as their corresponding web sites, always seem to go
through a complete facelift every year. There are always problems at the
beginning, and they eventually get worked out. Thank God it is just the
beginning of the preseason.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile

No damper at all.

Yeah, I reported the two problems I've seen with the NFL Mobile App, both
the problem where I couldn't sign into my NFL AudioPass account and the
problem where I couldn't select my favorite team. I haven't heard back from
them yet, but I didn't submit those issues until recently, since the contact
form on the web site is a bit problematic. They were pretty responsive last
season when I reported a few issues.

On 08/10/2014 10:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
 Hi,

 I don't mean to put a damper on this topic, but has anyone tried to 
 contact them about the various issues you are experiencing? Simply 
 saying they could work on the accessibility of the app won't get 
 anywhere, especially if they have no idea of what could need fixing, 
 or even about VoiceOver in general. You can submit feedback to them 
 directly from the app, so I'd strongly encourage all to do so..

 On Aug 10, 2014, at 10:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 mailto:chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

 I guess I got lucky. I came up with the Dolphins, which is my 
 favorite team.

 On 8/9/2014 9:59 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
 Same experience here, right down to the Jaguars.
 Andy
 *From:*Nicki Keck mailto:jesusgir...@gmail.com *Sent:*Saturday, 
 August 09, 2014 11:18 AM *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:*RE: NFL Mobile
 I had to reinstall the app as well and can't select my favorite team 
 either.  I have the exact same problem.  It selected the jaguars as 
 my favorite team.  The jaguars!  Gese  I really want the Eagles, but 
 the least it could have done is select the bucs, not the jaguars.
 Makes no logical sense.  I planned on having my husband with his 
 limited sight try to see if he could select it for me later, but if 
 someone has a better way, I'd be very happy.  You can get back to it 
 in settings, but you still can't select one.
 *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*On
 Behalf Of*Cheryl Homiak
 *Sent:*Monday, August 04, 2014 11:23 AM 
 *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:*Re: NFL Mobile
 Well, I guess this is progress but I'm not happy yet! I 
 re-downloaded the app and was finally able to sign in but now it has 
 me down for the Ravens as my favorite team and when I try to change 
 it there are no choices: it just says select your favorite team and 
 has a button to pick another team to follow and has a done button. 
 Nothing I press allows me to change my favorite team.
 Btw on the ipad I was able to sign in without reinstalling the app.
 It was on the main page but was was some other information I had to 
 click got it for before the sign in button would work.



 --
 Cheryl
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)


 On Aug 4, 2014, at 7:48 AM, Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com 
 mailto:pdlloga...@gmail.com wrote:

 No ... if you have an audio pass subscription ... then it works
 for other providers .. I have AtT.
 I had to delete the app .. and reinstall ...  however, when you
 do this you will first have to choose your favorite team .. this
 screen isn't accessible ...
 Then if I remember correctly .. when you got to the settings
 screen you will have the choice for already having a subscription
 and entering your user and password ..  It's a little confusing
 ...  but once you get it .. you should be good to go ..
 They definitely could work on the accessibility of the app ...

 Sent from my iPhone


 On Aug 4, 2014, at 1:04 AM, Kliphton Senior
 m.kliph...@gmail.com mailto:m.kliph...@gmail.com wrote:

 That is only for Verizon customers right?
 Frustrated with your I-device, Mac or AppleTV?  New user and
 want quickEfficient answers?  Then come join 

Latest NY Times App Articles Not Reading.

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

 

Has anyone else noticed that articles no longer read with an update to the
iOS NY Times app today?  Previously many of the headlines didn't read but
you could open the articles and read them.  Now the headlines seem to read
correctly but the articles do not read for me.

 

Kelly

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Adding Folders to iOS 7 Mail Screen

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

 

One of the reviews about iOS 7 mail indicated that you should be able to add
specific folders to the main screen of Mail in iOS 7.  This is where all of
your accounts are listed and such.

 

Does anyone know if this is accurate and if so, how to do so?  I choose edit
on the account screen and can navigate down to individual folders from
accounts such as my Exchange or imap account, but there doesn't seem to be a
way to select folders.  Double taps on the folders do not change the
selection state for example.

 

Thanks,

 

Kelly

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Mail Search in iOS 7

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Hi,

 

Does anyone know if the buttons for choosing what is searched in mail on iOS
7 are present in some fashion.  Earlier you had buttons for From, To,
Subject and All,  I'm not finding these in iOS 7 when I do mail searches.

 

Kelly

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RE: At Bat and mlb.com

[Kelly Ford]

Mike,

From what I was told by MLB, you need to purchase the subscription on the
iOS device to get the web access for no extra charge.  If you go the other
route you end up paying for two subscriptions.

I wrote about this back when the season was starting.

http://blog.kellyford.org/take-note-how-you-purchase-mlb-gameday-audio/


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Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: At Bat and mlb.com

Hi

I thought I had read on this list several months ago that if you had a
mlb.com account, you could listen to games on the iPhone without purchasing
a separate At Bat subscription.  I have had a mlb.com subscription for as
long as it has been around.  So I downloaded and installed At bat, read the
help, and did the steps to create an user id and password using my mlb.com
user id and password.  I just installed the update to At Bat this morning.
So when I open At Bat, and double tap login, it asks me to log in using my
mlb.com user id and password.  When I enter the user id and password and
double tap the log in or go button, it tells me you don't have access to
this feature, see inapp purchases.  To be able to listen to games on both
the iPhone and the pc, do you have to purchase subscriptions to both
services, or can you do this only purchasing one.  If you can do this using
only one, which one would that be.

Thanks.


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Returning From Editing a Note in Kindle iOS App

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

Has anyone figured out how to return to the book in the Kindle iOS app after 
you add a note.  You can add a note by tapping and holding on text.  One of the 
options is then to add a note where you end up in the typical text box.  But so 
far the only way I've found to return to the book is to press the iPhone home 
button to leave the Kindle app and then return.  At that point you are back to 
the menu where one of the options is to return to the book.

Thanks,

Kelly

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Re: Returning From Editing a Note in Kindle iOS App

[Kelly Ford]

Thanks. That worked quite well.
Kelly



On May 3, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Kelly and all,
 I found a save button just above the letter p on the keyboard. It is about 
 where the send button is in text messages.
 I also discovered that you have to navigate away from the the place where you 
 made the note before you can bring up the menu again.
 When I did a single finger double tap after saving the note, I was told that 
 376 other people had highlighted that part of the book.
 HTH,
 
 
 Richard
 (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
 
 On May 3, 2013, at 5:24 AM, Kelly Ford ke...@kellford.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Has anyone figured out how to return to the book in the Kindle iOS app after 
 you add a note.  You can add a note by tapping and holding on text.  One of 
 the options is then to add a note where you end up in the typical text box.  
 But so far the only way I've found to return to the book is to press the 
 iPhone home button to leave the Kindle app and then return.  At that point 
 you are back to the menu where one of the options is to return to the book.
 
 Thanks,
 
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RE: At bat question

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You need to go into the AT Bat app settings and choose to share your
subscription with the web site.

Kelly

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Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2013 5:23 AM
To: iPhone List
Subject: At bat question

Hi all.
I got the at-bat app, but in having a problem with my wireless. Is there
anyway that I can listen to the games on my computer, though I did get the
subscription to the at vat ap? Or, do I now have to buy a MLB subscription.

Jenifer Barr
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RE: Wanted, list of IOS commands for Focus blue 40

[Kelly Ford]

One other resource is the Apple support article on this.  There are focus
specific commands at http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4394  and a link to more
general braille display commands on that page.

Kelly

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From: Richard Turner [mailto:richard.turne...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 11:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wanted, list of IOS commands for Focus blue 40

Hi,
There are two good sources for more commands than you want:
http://axslab.com/articles/ios-voiceover-gestures-and-keyboard-commands.php

http://www.applevis.com/guides/braille-commands-iphone

The applevis one has a section specifically about the Focus display.
The first one has more commands I think.

HTH,
Richard

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Donald L. Roberts
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 11:15 AM
To: Viphone
Subject: Wanted, list of IOS commands for Focus blue 40

The subject says it all.  What I hope to find is a comprehensive list of
braille commands (chords) which I can use on my Focus 40 blue to control my
3-GS.

Thanks in advance for pointing me in the right direction.

Don Roberts

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RE: Accessible apps for home theater receivers

[Kelly Ford]

I use an app from Pioneer called IControl.  It allows for changing of the
various sound settings, i.e. various flavors of THX and others.It allows
you to change speaker balance using tilt behavior.  It doesn't allow for
access to setup functions on the receiver.  You also have to use VoiceOver's
label feature as some of the buttons are nameless but activation leads to
screens where you can determine the names.



 

 

 

From: Steve [mailto:k...@sbcglobal.net] rs. Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012
3:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible apps for home theater receivers

 

I haven't played with an accessible Yamaha receiver itself yet.  But, most
of the functions that I saw on the app itself appear to be labeled.  But,
I'm not certain how well it would wok with the receiver and I'd guess you
need eyes to first set it up.

 

Please, I'd be interested in anybody's experience on home theater access as
the products are so menu-intensive.

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 2:31 PM

Subject: Accessible apps for home theater receivers

 

I'm researching midrange home theater receivers, and I see several of
them have iPhone apps and air play support. I'm wondering, does anyone
have any experience with these receivers and how accessible the iPhone
apps are? I'm mostly looking at Onkyo, Denon and Yamaha, although I also
see that Pioneer is very proud of their Apple support.

I still need to check out the AppleVis.com web site. I've mostly been
spending my time on different web sites reviewing different home theater
receivers.

-- 
Christopher (CJ)
chaltain at Gmail

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