RE: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-30 Thread Eddie Salcido
I know this message is ridiculously late in response, Brice, but I have my
ear buds with me all the time and can enjoy complete privacy with my screen
curtain on as well.  Even in very noisy environments, you can hear the
speech if it is turned up loudly enough.  I like the buds because you can
still hear people and still be aware of your surroundings while texting or
playing around with your apps.  I find the buds particularly handy when I'm
listening to blind square tell me where I am.  If done safely, you can even
cross busy streets with only one ear bud in if you take out the bud in your
ear where the parallel traffic comes from.

The only time I have blind square coming from my external speaker is when I
am in a cab.  This lets the driver know that he can't pull one over on me.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brice Smith
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Listening to Voiceover

Hi,

I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
speech down low and do your best?

In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
and keep track of.

What works for you?

Brice

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RE: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-30 Thread Eddie Salcido
I keep them in my pocket as well, but I have figured out a trick to
untangling them, because they tangle easily.  You have to pull out one piece
of the cord at a time.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 7:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Listening to Voiceover

I keep mine in my pocket when I'm out and about. I'll pull them out of my
pocket and leave them on a table if I'm at home or in the office. My pockets
are fairly capacious, and I don't worry about their durability at all
keeping them in my pocket like I do.

On 05/25/2013 08:18 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
 You say you put them in your pocket.  I would think it would greatly 
 shorten their life to be in my pocket a lot, with my getting up, 
 sitting down, and other movements throughout the day not only 
 stressing the ear bud and plug connections, but also the remote.  Or, 
 are they more durable than I suspect?

 Arnold Schmidt
 - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel 
 siegh...@live.ca
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:13 AM
 Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover


 Hi Brice,

 As Chuck and Richard already pointed out, a Bluetooth earpiece is one 
 solution. But as you say, it is another item you have to make sure is 
 charged up and I personally don't like it if I have to do any amount 
 of typing. I do own one and use it at times, but first of all I feel 
 I look like a nurd (no offense to anybody who wears it all day) and I 
 just don't like the small lag when I am typing, it makes typing on 
 the virtual keyboard even slower as it is. There is also a third 
 reason why I don't want to have it in all day and that is the fact 
 that nobody really knows if it is all that healthy.

 I very much prefer the Apple earpods, they are less conspicuous and 
 even lighter than even the lightest Bluetooth earpiece. Depending on 
 where I am and what I am doing I often just have the right one in my 
 ear since it has the microphone and remote and I just have the left 
 one hanging around my neck. It's become total habit for me to grab 
 them in the morning, wrap them around my hand and put them in my 
 pocket.

 In short, if you are in public and you don't want anybody to hear 
 your phone a headset or earpiece of some sort is your only option. I 
 personally wouldn't be too worried about people listening to a text 
 message I might type, somebody really would have to pay attention to 
 put together what you are typing if they hear a letter at a time, but 
 of course if it's noisy a headset really is the way to go and it has 
 the additional benefit that you can keep your phone on your belt or 
 in your pocket when a call comes in.


 Regards,
 Sieghard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:29 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Listening to Voiceover

 Hi,

 I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when 
 you're out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you 
 turn the speech down low and do your best?

 In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
 If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without 
 everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes 
 I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I 
 can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really 
 odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or 
 earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge 
 and keep track of.

 What works for you?

 Brice

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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-27 Thread Lisa belville
I really don't get this thing with some sighted people raggin on us about 
how we choose to listen to our phone in public.  If using mobile phones in 
public weren't such a huge deal Plantronics, etc. wouldn't be selling 
millions of headsets/earbuds world wide.  I can't tell you how many people 
have almost run me over because they were yakking on their phone and using 
two hands to do something else, and this isn't just referring to being hit 
by vehicles.  I get it, the world isn't blind and we need to understand 
that, but I think some people take their desire to conform a bit too far. 
And frankly, in a situation like this, my safety and comfort come before 
those concerns.  I'm waiting on my Aftershoxz bluez headphones to come in 
precisely so I can use my phone in public and still be aware of my 
surroundings, this means I won't have to yell at people who can't understand 
me or be oblivious to people around me.  I got an iPhone so I could take 
advantage of all it offers, and I don't really care what people say about 
the style of my headset.  I'm using two mainstream items to interact with 
the sighted world, and that's as good as they're going to get from me.


Lisa


Chocolate is the answer... who cares what the question is!

Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

- Original Message - 
From: Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: Listening to Voiceover


My wife really gives me a bad time when I wear a headset in public, saying 
that it is really inappropriate, and calls attention to my blindness, as 
if the cane doesn't, and I can't believe that she doesn't notice all of 
the people who use their cell phones everywhere.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Sandy Finley

Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 4:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover

Bryce, your colleague was way out of line. I just asked my sighted husband
about it and he made the following observation Sighted people are seen
constantly holding the phone up to one ear while using the other hand to
write with a pen. Maybe they are taking notes on the phone call; maybe
writing a grocery list.
Why would what you are doing look any weirder? My personal preference is 
to

plug in the iPhone ear buds and put one in one ear and listen to what I am
typing.  Butt's not because of appearance, it's because of preference.

Sieghard makes a great point about a bllind person tapping along with a
white cane or having a dog lying under the table;... Your colleague eeds 
to

take a hike.


Sandy



Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 1:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover

Hi Bryce,

Also keep in mind that just because one colleague thinks it looks weird 
and

unprofessional it doesn't mean everybody thinks that. It may also look
unprofessional in certain situations to try and find your way around by
tapping along with a white cane or at least some may say that it is. In 
any
case, whether it is or isn't is in my opinion beyond the point, you do 
what
you have to do. I prefer a headset but if I didn't have one and had to 
type
a message I'd have no problems holding the phone in whichever way allows 
me

to do so.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brice Smith
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Listening to Voiceover

Thanks, Raul. You touch on the reason I started this; the whole holding 
the

phone up close to the ear and tapping away. This is what I've naturally
preferred, but a colleague pointed out how weird and unprofessional it
looks. It's not something I had thought about before and I was kind of
caught off guard. It does make sense how odd it probably looks to hold a
phone up chest level or next to your cheek or ear and type, though.

I do not have hearing problems at all. Still, at least for me, I've got to
have the voice near my ear when typing because when using touch typing it
can be difficult to really hear Samantha in a lot of environments without
turning the volume up. These are the only times I wish the iPhone had a
physical keyboard.

Finally, the speakers on the iPhone 4s are kind of bad, anyway. When I was
using a Mophie Battery Juice case the speakers faced up which made the 
sound

clearer.

Just some observations.

Brice

On 5/25/13, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:

Hi, to add to this discussion what I do is use a single-ear headset
like the Plantronics M50. I just recently purchased the Samsung HM1700
and am liking the volume on it better than the M50, but I haven't
found a comfortable fit for it yet. So, still on the fence about that
one. I find that the single-ear headset is good for me because I can
pull it out right away

Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-27 Thread Marianne Denning
Maybe she wants you to pay attention to her instead of the phone. I am
not ashamed to be blind.  We ride on the bike trail and you wouldn't
believe how many walkers are out there with their headphones on and
the music so loud I can hear it as we go by.  We try to honk to let
them know we are behind them and I don't think they even hear it.
Keep on using the headphones.

On 5/27/13, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I think  headphones or, a bluetooth earpiece calling attention to a persons
 blindness is absurd.  lol.  tens of millions of these things are sold world
 wide, I'm fairly certain it is not just blind people buying them. haha.

 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info

 On May 27, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Lisa belville missktlab1...@frontier.com
 wrote:

 I really don't get this thing with some sighted people raggin on us about
 how we choose to listen to our phone in public.  If using mobile phones in
 public weren't such a huge deal Plantronics, etc. wouldn't be selling
 millions of headsets/earbuds world wide.  I can't tell you how many people
 have almost run me over because they were yakking on their phone and using
 two hands to do something else, and this isn't just referring to being hit
 by vehicles.  I get it, the world isn't blind and we need to understand
 that, but I think some people take their desire to conform a bit too far.
 And frankly, in a situation like this, my safety and comfort come before
 those concerns.  I'm waiting on my Aftershoxz bluez headphones to come in
 precisely so I can use my phone in public and still be aware of my
 surroundings, this means I won't have to yell at people who can't
 understand me or be oblivious to people around me.  I got an iPhone so I
 could take advantage of all it offers, and I don't really care what people
 say about the style of my headset.  I'm using two mainstream items to
 interact with the sighted world, and that's as good as they're going to
 get from me.

 Lisa


 Chocolate is the answer... who cares what the question is!

 Lisa Belville
 missktlab1...@frontier.com

 - Original Message - From: Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 3:49 PM
 Subject: Re: Listening to Voiceover


 My wife really gives me a bad time when I wear a headset in public,
 saying that it is really inappropriate, and calls attention to my
 blindness, as if the cane doesn't, and I can't believe that she doesn't
 notice all of the people who use their cell phones everywhere.

 Andy


 -Original Message- From: Sandy Finley
 Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 4:44 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover

 Bryce, your colleague was way out of line. I just asked my sighted
 husband
 about it and he made the following observation Sighted people are seen
 constantly holding the phone up to one ear while using the other hand to
 write with a pen. Maybe they are taking notes on the phone call; maybe
 writing a grocery list.
 Why would what you are doing look any weirder? My personal preference is
 to
 plug in the iPhone ear buds and put one in one ear and listen to what I
 am
 typing.  Butt's not because of appearance, it's because of preference.

 Sieghard makes a great point about a bllind person tapping along with a
 white cane or having a dog lying under the table;... Your colleague eeds
 to
 take a hike.


 Sandy



 Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 1:26 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover

 Hi Bryce,

 Also keep in mind that just because one colleague thinks it looks weird
 and
 unprofessional it doesn't mean everybody thinks that. It may also look
 unprofessional in certain situations to try and find your way around by
 tapping along with a white cane or at least some may say that it is. In
 any
 case, whether it is or isn't is in my opinion beyond the point, you do
 what
 you have to do. I prefer a headset but if I didn't have one and had to
 type
 a message I'd have no problems holding the phone in whichever way allows
 me
 to do so.


 Regards,
 Sieghard

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:33 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Listening to Voiceover

 Thanks, Raul. You touch on the reason I started this; the whole holding
 the
 phone up close to the ear and tapping away. This is what I've naturally
 preferred, but a colleague pointed out how weird and unprofessional it
 looks. It's not something I had thought about before and I was kind of
 caught off guard. It does make sense how odd it probably looks to hold a
 phone up chest level or next to your cheek or ear and type, though.

 I do not have hearing problems at all. Still

RE: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-26 Thread Sandy Finley
Bryce, your colleague was way out of line. I just asked my sighted husband
about it and he made the following observation Sighted people are seen
constantly holding the phone up to one ear while using the other hand to
write with a pen. Maybe they are taking notes on the phone call; maybe
writing a grocery list. 
Why would what you are doing look any weirder? My personal preference is to
plug in the iPhone ear buds and put one in one ear and listen to what I am
typing.  Butt's not because of appearance, it's because of preference.

Sieghard makes a great point about a bllind person tapping along with a
white cane or having a dog lying under the table;... Your colleague eeds to
take a hike.


Sandy



Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 1:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover

Hi Bryce,

Also keep in mind that just because one colleague thinks it looks weird and
unprofessional it doesn't mean everybody thinks that. It may also look
unprofessional in certain situations to try and find your way around by
tapping along with a white cane or at least some may say that it is. In any
case, whether it is or isn't is in my opinion beyond the point, you do what
you have to do. I prefer a headset but if I didn't have one and had to type
a message I'd have no problems holding the phone in whichever way allows me
to do so.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brice Smith
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Listening to Voiceover

Thanks, Raul. You touch on the reason I started this; the whole holding the
phone up close to the ear and tapping away. This is what I've naturally
preferred, but a colleague pointed out how weird and unprofessional it
looks. It's not something I had thought about before and I was kind of
caught off guard. It does make sense how odd it probably looks to hold a
phone up chest level or next to your cheek or ear and type, though.

I do not have hearing problems at all. Still, at least for me, I've got to
have the voice near my ear when typing because when using touch typing it
can be difficult to really hear Samantha in a lot of environments without
turning the volume up. These are the only times I wish the iPhone had a
physical keyboard.

Finally, the speakers on the iPhone 4s are kind of bad, anyway. When I was
using a Mophie Battery Juice case the speakers faced up which made the sound
clearer.

Just some observations.

Brice

On 5/25/13, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:
 Hi, to add to this discussion what I do is use a single-ear headset 
 like the Plantronics M50. I just recently purchased the Samsung HM1700 
 and am liking the volume on it better than the M50, but I haven't 
 found a comfortable fit for it yet. So, still on the fence about that 
 one. I find that the single-ear headset is good for me because I can 
 pull it out right away if I need total hearing with both ears, but at 
 the same time it's not jammed in my ear totally covering it in case I 
 need it either. For phone calls the M50 sucks in my opinion, but for 
 all the other pros it offers I still think it's the best single-ear 
 headset. If I need something covering both of my ears I will either 
 use the Motorola
 S11 headset which wraps around the back of your neck, has great range, 
 and has great sound with playing music in both ears. It has a slightly 
 annoying delay which I'm not too proud of, but all Bluetooth headsets 
 have this delay. Some are just worse than others though. The M50 and 
 the
 HM1700 are ok, but the S11 isn't the best.

 I try to avoid using wired connections because I like all that 
 radiation flowing through my skull and because since we are all going 
 to die some day, why not die cord free and happy? I don't have Apple 
 earpods, and I'm not sure if I will get them since I have a bit of 
 choice of things already. yes it's more to charge, but I also have a
 3-in-1 charger usb cable with the standard usb end on one side which 
 plugs into a usb charger wall plug on one end, and the other end has 
 either a 30-pin for iPhone 4, and then it has a lightning plug for 
 iPhone 5 and newer, and lastly, a Micro USB for the headsets or an 
 Android
phone.

 Since I usually carry around a extra battery pack from new Trent which 
 holds either 6000 or 12,000 mAH depending on the one I use, I'm good 
 with not running out of juice if I'm around places I can't connect to 
 a wall.

 Lastly, if I don't have all my gadgets with me, I will hold the phone 
 close to my ear like I'm making a phone call and tap away that way. We 
 live in a sighted world and so I try to not appear to be socially 
 inept, however many sighted people do worse things, and we just don't 
 know about them because we can't see them. So, that helps me

Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-26 Thread Andy Baracco
My wife really gives me a bad time when I wear a headset in public, saying 
that it is really inappropriate, and calls attention to my blindness, as if 
the cane doesn't, and I can't believe that she doesn't notice all of the 
people who use their cell phones everywhere.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Sandy Finley

Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 4:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover

Bryce, your colleague was way out of line. I just asked my sighted husband
about it and he made the following observation Sighted people are seen
constantly holding the phone up to one ear while using the other hand to
write with a pen. Maybe they are taking notes on the phone call; maybe
writing a grocery list.
Why would what you are doing look any weirder? My personal preference is to
plug in the iPhone ear buds and put one in one ear and listen to what I am
typing.  Butt's not because of appearance, it's because of preference.

Sieghard makes a great point about a bllind person tapping along with a
white cane or having a dog lying under the table;... Your colleague eeds to
take a hike.


Sandy



Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 1:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover

Hi Bryce,

Also keep in mind that just because one colleague thinks it looks weird and
unprofessional it doesn't mean everybody thinks that. It may also look
unprofessional in certain situations to try and find your way around by
tapping along with a white cane or at least some may say that it is. In any
case, whether it is or isn't is in my opinion beyond the point, you do what
you have to do. I prefer a headset but if I didn't have one and had to type
a message I'd have no problems holding the phone in whichever way allows me
to do so.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brice Smith
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Listening to Voiceover

Thanks, Raul. You touch on the reason I started this; the whole holding the
phone up close to the ear and tapping away. This is what I've naturally
preferred, but a colleague pointed out how weird and unprofessional it
looks. It's not something I had thought about before and I was kind of
caught off guard. It does make sense how odd it probably looks to hold a
phone up chest level or next to your cheek or ear and type, though.

I do not have hearing problems at all. Still, at least for me, I've got to
have the voice near my ear when typing because when using touch typing it
can be difficult to really hear Samantha in a lot of environments without
turning the volume up. These are the only times I wish the iPhone had a
physical keyboard.

Finally, the speakers on the iPhone 4s are kind of bad, anyway. When I was
using a Mophie Battery Juice case the speakers faced up which made the sound
clearer.

Just some observations.

Brice

On 5/25/13, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:

Hi, to add to this discussion what I do is use a single-ear headset
like the Plantronics M50. I just recently purchased the Samsung HM1700
and am liking the volume on it better than the M50, but I haven't
found a comfortable fit for it yet. So, still on the fence about that
one. I find that the single-ear headset is good for me because I can
pull it out right away if I need total hearing with both ears, but at
the same time it's not jammed in my ear totally covering it in case I
need it either. For phone calls the M50 sucks in my opinion, but for
all the other pros it offers I still think it's the best single-ear
headset. If I need something covering both of my ears I will either
use the Motorola
S11 headset which wraps around the back of your neck, has great range,
and has great sound with playing music in both ears. It has a slightly
annoying delay which I'm not too proud of, but all Bluetooth headsets
have this delay. Some are just worse than others though. The M50 and
the
HM1700 are ok, but the S11 isn't the best.

I try to avoid using wired connections because I like all that
radiation flowing through my skull and because since we are all going
to die some day, why not die cord free and happy? I don't have Apple
earpods, and I'm not sure if I will get them since I have a bit of
choice of things already. yes it's more to charge, but I also have a
3-in-1 charger usb cable with the standard usb end on one side which
plugs into a usb charger wall plug on one end, and the other end has
either a 30-pin for iPhone 4, and then it has a lightning plug for
iPhone 5 and newer, and lastly, a Micro USB for the headsets or an
Android

phone.


Since I usually carry around a extra battery pack from new Trent which
holds either 6000 or 12,000 mAH depending on the one I use, I'm good
with not running out of juice if I'm around

Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-26 Thread Anne Robertson
I just asked my sighted husband how common it is to see people wearing headsets 
in public. We live fairly near Paris and use the local trains a lot. The vast 
majority of people wear headsets of some kind, from the tiny earbuds to huge 
cans.

Cheers,

Anne


On 26 May 2013, at 22:49, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:

 My wife really gives me a bad time when I wear a headset in public, saying 
 that it is really inappropriate, and calls attention to my blindness, as if 
 the cane doesn't, and I can't believe that she doesn't notice all of the 
 people who use their cell phones everywhere.
 
 Andy

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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-26 Thread Tina Murphy
I was dictating quietly to my IPhone yesterday when I was in the 
dentist's office. My boyfriend said people were starig at me. I 
figured too bad. I hear people talking on their phones all the time. I 
just happen to be talking to mie. LOL
Tina
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-- 1 John 3:18

- Original Message - 
From: Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: Listening to Voiceover


My wife really gives me a bad time when I wear a headset in public, 
saying
that it is really inappropriate, and calls attention to my blindness, 
as if
the cane doesn't, and I can't believe that she doesn't notice all of 
the
people who use their cell phones everywhere.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Sandy Finley
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 4:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover

Bryce, your colleague was way out of line. I just asked my sighted 
husband
about it and he made the following observation Sighted people are seen
constantly holding the phone up to one ear while using the other hand 
to
write with a pen. Maybe they are taking notes on the phone call; maybe
writing a grocery list.
Why would what you are doing look any weirder? My personal preference 
is to
plug in the iPhone ear buds and put one in one ear and listen to what 
I am
typing.  Butt's not because of appearance, it's because of preference.

Sieghard makes a great point about a bllind person tapping along with 
a
white cane or having a dog lying under the table;... Your colleague 
eeds to
take a hike.


Sandy



Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 1:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover

Hi Bryce,

Also keep in mind that just because one colleague thinks it looks 
weird and
unprofessional it doesn't mean everybody thinks that. It may also look
unprofessional in certain situations to try and find your way around 
by
tapping along with a white cane or at least some may say that it is. 
In any
case, whether it is or isn't is in my opinion beyond the point, you do 
what
you have to do. I prefer a headset but if I didn't have one and had to 
type
a message I'd have no problems holding the phone in whichever way 
allows me
to do so.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf
Of Brice Smith
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Listening to Voiceover

Thanks, Raul. You touch on the reason I started this; the whole 
holding the
phone up close to the ear and tapping away. This is what I've 
naturally
preferred, but a colleague pointed out how weird and unprofessional it
looks. It's not something I had thought about before and I was kind of
caught off guard. It does make sense how odd it probably looks to hold 
a
phone up chest level or next to your cheek or ear and type, though.

I do not have hearing problems at all. Still, at least for me, I've 
got to
have the voice near my ear when typing because when using touch typing 
it
can be difficult to really hear Samantha in a lot of environments 
without
turning the volume up. These are the only times I wish the iPhone had 
a
physical keyboard.

Finally, the speakers on the iPhone 4s are kind of bad, anyway. When I 
was
using a Mophie Battery Juice case the speakers faced up which made the 
sound
clearer.

Just some observations.

Brice

On 5/25/13, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:
 Hi, to add to this discussion what I do is use a single-ear headset
 like the Plantronics M50. I just recently purchased the Samsung 
 HM1700
 and am liking the volume on it better than the M50, but I haven't
 found a comfortable fit for it yet. So, still on the fence about 
 that
 one. I find that the single-ear headset is good for me because I can
 pull it out right away if I need total hearing with both ears, but 
 at
 the same time it's not jammed in my ear totally covering it in case 
 I
 need it either. For phone calls the M50 sucks in my opinion, but for
 all the other pros it offers I still think it's the best single-ear
 headset. If I need something covering both of my ears I will either
 use the Motorola
 S11 headset which wraps around the back of your neck, has great 
 range,
 and has great sound with playing music in both ears. It has a 
 slightly
 annoying delay which I'm not too proud of, but all Bluetooth 
 headsets
 have this delay. Some are just worse than others though. The M50 and
 the
 HM1700 are ok, but the S11 isn't the best.

 I try to avoid using wired connections because I like all that
 radiation flowing through my skull and because since we are all 
 going
 to die some day, why not die cord free and happy? I don't have

RE: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-26 Thread Dulce Muccio Weisenborn
Is there such a thing as a Bluetooth earbud that is not a headset?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover

I use a single ear wired headset when using the phone in public where I need
to listen to what's going on around me. Otherwise, I use the earpods that
came with my iPhone 5.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brice Smith
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 11:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Listening to Voiceover

Hi,

I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
speech down low and do your best?

In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
and keep track of.

What works for you?

Brice

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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-26 Thread Tina Murphy
I have a Plantroics M50 that I bought from Amazon. It's a one ear 
bluetooth earpiece. You can find a review of it on applevis.
Tina
**
Let us love, not in word or speech, but in truth and action.
-- 1 John 3:18

- Original Message - 
From: Dulce Muccio Weisenborn d...@lifedesigns-inc.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 10:47 PM
Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover


Is there such a thing as a Bluetooth earbud that is not a headset?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf
Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover

I use a single ear wired headset when using the phone in public where 
I need
to listen to what's going on around me. Otherwise, I use the earpods 
that
came with my iPhone 5.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf
Of Brice Smith
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 11:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Listening to Voiceover

Hi,

I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
speech down low and do your best?

In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
and keep track of.

What works for you?

Brice

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RE: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-26 Thread Rose Combs
Yeah, unless you accidently put then through the laundry!  Fortunately it
was an older style that I did that to a few months ago.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 1:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Listening to Voiceover

Hello,

For those who didn't already know, your Apple earbuds/earPods are covered
under Apple care.  So, you have a year from the purchase of your device to
replace your headphones if they become damaged or, 2 years if you payed to
extend Apple care.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On May 25, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:

 If one uses one's pocket to carry small headphones, enclosing them in 
 the smallest possible zip lock bag is  a good idea.  To avoid kinking 
 and crimping of the cable, just be careful to wind the cord loosely 
 before inserting it into the bag.
 
 Craig
 
 On 5/25/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I keep mine in my pocket when I'm out and about. I'll pull them out 
 of my pocket and leave them on a table if I'm at home or in the 
 office. My pockets are fairly capacious, and I don't worry about 
 their durability at all keeping them in my pocket like I do.
 
 On 05/25/2013 08:18 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
 You say you put them in your pocket.  I would think it would greatly 
 shorten their life to be in my pocket a lot, with my getting up, 
 sitting down, and other movements throughout the day not only 
 stressing the ear bud and plug connections, but also the remote.  
 Or, are they more durable than I suspect?
 
 Arnold Schmidt
 - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel 
 siegh...@live.ca
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:13 AM
 Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover
 
 
 Hi Brice,
 
 As Chuck and Richard already pointed out, a Bluetooth earpiece is 
 one solution. But as you say, it is another item you have to make 
 sure is charged up and I personally don't like it if I have to do 
 any amount of typing. I do own one and use it at times, but first 
 of all I feel I look like a nurd (no offense to anybody who wears 
 it all day) and I just don't like the small lag when I am typing, 
 it makes typing on the virtual keyboard even slower as it is. There 
 is also a third reason why I don't want to have it in all day and 
 that is the fact that nobody really knows if it is all that 
 healthy.
 
 I very much prefer the Apple earpods, they are less conspicuous and 
 even lighter than even the lightest Bluetooth earpiece. Depending 
 on where I am and what I am doing I often just have the right one 
 in my ear since it has the microphone and remote and I just have 
 the left one hanging around my neck. It's become total habit for me 
 to grab them in the morning, wrap them around my hand and put them 
 in my pocket.
 
 In short, if you are in public and you don't want anybody to hear 
 your phone a headset or earpiece of some sort is your only option. 
 I personally wouldn't be too worried about people listening to a 
 text message I might type, somebody really would have to pay 
 attention to put together what you are typing if they hear a letter 
 at a time, but of course if it's noisy a headset really is the way 
 to go and it has the additional benefit that you can keep your 
 phone on your belt or in your pocket when a call comes in.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:29 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Listening to Voiceover
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when 
 you're out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you 
 turn the speech down low and do your best?
 
 In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
 If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without 
 everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. 
 Sometimes I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and 
 type/text so I can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but 
 this looks really odd and unprofessional. I've thought about 
 grabbing an earpiece or earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just 
 something else to charge and keep track of.
 
 What works for you?
 
 Brice
 
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RE: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-26 Thread Rose Combs
I like my Aftershoz headphones also once I manage to get them on
comfortably, it even allows me to hear the phone in the left ear better,
especially great for music I can actually hear more of a stereo effect which
is cool since I have not been able to hear that  unless I change balance in
23 years.  



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 1:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Listening to Voiceover

I agree.
Andy


-Original Message-
From: Anne Robertson
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 11:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Listening to Voiceover

I use my Aftershokz bone conduction headset as I can't stand having my ears
blocked with earbuds. I don't feel safe if I can't hear my environment.

Cheers,

Anne

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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-26 Thread Tina Murphy
Or your dog chews them into itty bits. LOL
Tina
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- Original Message - 
From: Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 6:56 PM
Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover


Yeah, unless you accidently put then through the laundry!  Fortunately 
it
was an older style that I did that to a few months ago.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf
Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 1:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Listening to Voiceover

Hello,

For those who didn't already know, your Apple earbuds/earPods are 
covered
under Apple care.  So, you have a year from the purchase of your 
device to
replace your headphones if they become damaged or, 2 years if you 
payed to
extend Apple care.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On May 25, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 If one uses one's pocket to carry small headphones, enclosing them 
 in
 the smallest possible zip lock bag is  a good idea.  To avoid 
 kinking
 and crimping of the cable, just be careful to wind the cord loosely
 before inserting it into the bag.

 Craig

 On 5/25/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I keep mine in my pocket when I'm out and about. I'll pull them out
 of my pocket and leave them on a table if I'm at home or in the
 office. My pockets are fairly capacious, and I don't worry about
 their durability at all keeping them in my pocket like I do.

 On 05/25/2013 08:18 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
 You say you put them in your pocket.  I would think it would 
 greatly
 shorten their life to be in my pocket a lot, with my getting up,
 sitting down, and other movements throughout the day not only
 stressing the ear bud and plug connections, but also the remote.
 Or, are they more durable than I suspect?

 Arnold Schmidt
 - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel
 siegh...@live.ca
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:13 AM
 Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover


 Hi Brice,

 As Chuck and Richard already pointed out, a Bluetooth earpiece is
 one solution. But as you say, it is another item you have to make
 sure is charged up and I personally don't like it if I have to do
 any amount of typing. I do own one and use it at times, but first
 of all I feel I look like a nurd (no offense to anybody who wears
 it all day) and I just don't like the small lag when I am typing,
 it makes typing on the virtual keyboard even slower as it is. 
 There
 is also a third reason why I don't want to have it in all day and
 that is the fact that nobody really knows if it is all that
 healthy.

 I very much prefer the Apple earpods, they are less conspicuous 
 and
 even lighter than even the lightest Bluetooth earpiece. Depending
 on where I am and what I am doing I often just have the right one
 in my ear since it has the microphone and remote and I just have
 the left one hanging around my neck. It's become total habit for 
 me
 to grab them in the morning, wrap them around my hand and put 
 them
 in my pocket.

 In short, if you are in public and you don't want anybody to hear
 your phone a headset or earpiece of some sort is your only 
 option.
 I personally wouldn't be too worried about people listening to a
 text message I might type, somebody really would have to pay
 attention to put together what you are typing if they hear a 
 letter
 at a time, but of course if it's noisy a headset really is the 
 way
 to go and it has the additional benefit that you can keep your
 phone on your belt or in your pocket when a call comes in.


 Regards,
 Sieghard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
 On
 Behalf Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:29 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Listening to Voiceover

 Hi,

 I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when
 you're out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do 
 you
 turn the speech down low and do your best?

 In noisy environments most people can just look down at their 
 phones.
 If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
 everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too.
 Sometimes I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and
 type/text so I can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but
 this looks really odd and unprofessional. I've thought about
 grabbing an earpiece or earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's 
 just
 something else to charge and keep track of.

 What works for you?

 Brice

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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-26 Thread David Chittenden
Yeah, a geeky sighted friend's wife, who isn't geeky, gives him a hard time for 
his bluetooth earpiece as well. They are not fashionably stylish.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 27/05/2013, at 6:49, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:

 My wife really gives me a bad time when I wear a headset in public, saying 
 that it is really inappropriate, and calls attention to my blindness, as if 
 the cane doesn't, and I can't believe that she doesn't notice all of the 
 people who use their cell phones everywhere.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Sandy Finley
 Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 4:44 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover
 
 Bryce, your colleague was way out of line. I just asked my sighted husband
 about it and he made the following observation Sighted people are seen
 constantly holding the phone up to one ear while using the other hand to
 write with a pen. Maybe they are taking notes on the phone call; maybe
 writing a grocery list.
 Why would what you are doing look any weirder? My personal preference is to
 plug in the iPhone ear buds and put one in one ear and listen to what I am
 typing.  Butt's not because of appearance, it's because of preference.
 
 Sieghard makes a great point about a bllind person tapping along with a
 white cane or having a dog lying under the table;... Your colleague eeds to
 take a hike.
 
 
 Sandy
 
 
 
 Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 1:26 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover
 
 Hi Bryce,
 
 Also keep in mind that just because one colleague thinks it looks weird and
 unprofessional it doesn't mean everybody thinks that. It may also look
 unprofessional in certain situations to try and find your way around by
 tapping along with a white cane or at least some may say that it is. In any
 case, whether it is or isn't is in my opinion beyond the point, you do what
 you have to do. I prefer a headset but if I didn't have one and had to type
 a message I'd have no problems holding the phone in whichever way allows me
 to do so.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:33 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Listening to Voiceover
 
 Thanks, Raul. You touch on the reason I started this; the whole holding the
 phone up close to the ear and tapping away. This is what I've naturally
 preferred, but a colleague pointed out how weird and unprofessional it
 looks. It's not something I had thought about before and I was kind of
 caught off guard. It does make sense how odd it probably looks to hold a
 phone up chest level or next to your cheek or ear and type, though.
 
 I do not have hearing problems at all. Still, at least for me, I've got to
 have the voice near my ear when typing because when using touch typing it
 can be difficult to really hear Samantha in a lot of environments without
 turning the volume up. These are the only times I wish the iPhone had a
 physical keyboard.
 
 Finally, the speakers on the iPhone 4s are kind of bad, anyway. When I was
 using a Mophie Battery Juice case the speakers faced up which made the sound
 clearer.
 
 Just some observations.
 
 Brice
 
 On 5/25/13, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:
 Hi, to add to this discussion what I do is use a single-ear headset
 like the Plantronics M50. I just recently purchased the Samsung HM1700
 and am liking the volume on it better than the M50, but I haven't
 found a comfortable fit for it yet. So, still on the fence about that
 one. I find that the single-ear headset is good for me because I can
 pull it out right away if I need total hearing with both ears, but at
 the same time it's not jammed in my ear totally covering it in case I
 need it either. For phone calls the M50 sucks in my opinion, but for
 all the other pros it offers I still think it's the best single-ear
 headset. If I need something covering both of my ears I will either
 use the Motorola
 S11 headset which wraps around the back of your neck, has great range,
 and has great sound with playing music in both ears. It has a slightly
 annoying delay which I'm not too proud of, but all Bluetooth headsets
 have this delay. Some are just worse than others though. The M50 and
 the
 HM1700 are ok, but the S11 isn't the best.
 
 I try to avoid using wired connections because I like all that
 radiation flowing through my skull and because since we are all going
 to die some day, why not die cord free and happy? I don't have Apple
 earpods, and I'm not sure if I will get them since I have a bit of
 choice of things already. yes it's more to charge, but I also have a
 3-in-1 charger usb cable with the standard usb end on one side

Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Margaret Booth
I always carry my apple head phones with me. I prefer to use them when I'm out 
so no one knows what I'm doing. 

Margaret 

On 25/05/2013, at 2:28 AM, Brice Smith wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
 out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
 speech down low and do your best?
 
 In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
 If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
 everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
 I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
 can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
 odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
 earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
 and keep track of.
 
 What works for you?
 
 Brice
 
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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Chuck Dean
I also carry my iPhone's ear buds in my fanny pack. (yes, I am one of those 
guys ) alone with my stereo blue tooth ear buds. I use them on airplanes and at 
audio assisted ATM's. 

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. 

On May 24, 2013, at 11:13 PM, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I always carry my apple head phones with me. I prefer to use them when I'm 
 out so no one knows what I'm doing. 
 
 Margaret 
 
 On 25/05/2013, at 2:28 AM, Brice Smith wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
 out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
 speech down low and do your best?
 
 In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
 If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
 everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
 I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
 can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
 odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
 earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
 and keep track of.
 
 What works for you?
 
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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Anne Robertson
I use my Aftershokz bone conduction headset as I can't stand having my ears 
blocked with earbuds. I don't feel safe if I can't hear my environment.

Cheers,

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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

I would like to point out 1 thing.  Apple headphones are definitely not 
inconspicuous .  Those white headphones are like a lighthouse to a ship on a 
stormy night. haha.  1 glance, and people will assume your using an Apple 
product of some kind.  In some instances, this can even put ones safety in 
jeopardy.  I agree though, using wired headphones do have some definite 
advantages over a BT model, and I do get your point.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On May 25, 2013, at 12:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Brice,
 
 As Chuck and Richard already pointed out, a Bluetooth earpiece is one
 solution. But as you say, it is another item you have to make sure is
 charged up and I personally don't like it if I have to do any amount of
 typing. I do own one and use it at times, but first of all I feel I look
 like a nurd (no offense to anybody who wears it all day) and I just don't
 like the small lag when I am typing, it makes typing on the virtual keyboard
 even slower as it is. There is also a third reason why I don't want to have
 it in all day and that is the fact that nobody really knows if it is all
 that healthy.
 
 I very much prefer the Apple earpods, they are less conspicuous and even
 lighter than even the lightest Bluetooth earpiece. Depending on where I am
 and what I am doing I often just have the right one in my ear since it has
 the microphone and remote and I just have the left one hanging around my
 neck. It's become total habit for me to grab them in the morning, wrap them
 around my hand and put them in my pocket.
 
 In short, if you are in public and you don't want anybody to hear your phone
 a headset or earpiece of some sort is your only option. I personally
 wouldn't be too worried about people listening to a text message I might
 type, somebody really would have to pay attention to put together what you
 are typing if they hear a letter at a time, but of course if it's noisy a
 headset really is the way to go and it has the additional benefit that you
 can keep your phone on your belt or in your pocket when a call comes in.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:29 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Listening to Voiceover
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
 out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
 speech down low and do your best?
 
 In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
 If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
 everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
 I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
 can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
 odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
 earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
 and keep track of.
 
 What works for you?
 
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RE: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Lois Butterfield
When out, I use a tiny Jabra Bluetooth headset in one ear.  It fits into the
outer part of my ear, so I can still hear what's around me.  People don't
notice that I have it on, and I forget as well.  The typing delay is almost
not noticeable.

Lois
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Of Brice Smith
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 12:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Listening to Voiceover

Hi,

I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
speech down low and do your best?

In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
and keep track of.

What works for you?

Brice

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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi Brice,

I keep a set of Apple Ear Pods in my purse. I usually just use the phone's 
speaker when doing something simple and quick but if I need privacy or the 
environment is not conducive to that then I'll either use one Ear Pod or both, 
depending on what I'm doing.

When I'm done I just put the Pods and / or phone back in my purse and that's 
that. :)

HTH -Great question / topic!

Cara :)
On May 24, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Brice Smith brsmith2...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
speech down low and do your best?

In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
and keep track of.

What works for you?

Brice

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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi,

I usually just hold the phone fairly close to my face but slightly off
center so that it's near one of my ears; that way I can here voiceover
just about well enough to type without it looking overly unnormal.
Alternately, if I just want to read a notification or a text, I just
turn the volume up slightly and don't even bother taking it out of my
pocket.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 5/25/13, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Brice,

 I keep a set of Apple Ear Pods in my purse. I usually just use the phone's
 speaker when doing something simple and quick but if I need privacy or the
 environment is not conducive to that then I'll either use one Ear Pod or
 both, depending on what I'm doing.

 When I'm done I just put the Pods and / or phone back in my purse and that's
 that. :)

 HTH -Great question / topic!

 Cara :)
 On May 24, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Brice Smith brsmith2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
 out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
 speech down low and do your best?

 In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
 If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
 everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
 I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
 can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
 odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
 earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
 and keep track of.

 What works for you?

 Brice

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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Arnold Schmidt
You say you put them in your pocket.  I would think it would greatly shorten 
their life to be in my pocket a lot, with my getting up, sitting down, and 
other movements throughout the day not only stressing the ear bud and plug 
connections, but also the remote.  Or, are they more durable than I suspect?


Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:13 AM
Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover



Hi Brice,

As Chuck and Richard already pointed out, a Bluetooth earpiece is one
solution. But as you say, it is another item you have to make sure is
charged up and I personally don't like it if I have to do any amount of
typing. I do own one and use it at times, but first of all I feel I look
like a nurd (no offense to anybody who wears it all day) and I just don't
like the small lag when I am typing, it makes typing on the virtual 
keyboard
even slower as it is. There is also a third reason why I don't want to 
have

it in all day and that is the fact that nobody really knows if it is all
that healthy.

I very much prefer the Apple earpods, they are less conspicuous and even
lighter than even the lightest Bluetooth earpiece. Depending on where I am
and what I am doing I often just have the right one in my ear since it has
the microphone and remote and I just have the left one hanging around my
neck. It's become total habit for me to grab them in the morning, wrap 
them

around my hand and put them in my pocket.

In short, if you are in public and you don't want anybody to hear your 
phone

a headset or earpiece of some sort is your only option. I personally
wouldn't be too worried about people listening to a text message I might
type, somebody really would have to pay attention to put together what you
are typing if they hear a letter at a time, but of course if it's noisy a
headset really is the way to go and it has the additional benefit that you
can keep your phone on your belt or in your pocket when a call comes in.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brice Smith
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Listening to Voiceover

Hi,

I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
speech down low and do your best?

In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
and keep track of.

What works for you?

Brice

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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I keep mine in my pocket when I'm out and about. I'll pull them out of 
my pocket and leave them on a table if I'm at home or in the office. My 
pockets are fairly capacious, and I don't worry about their durability 
at all keeping them in my pocket like I do.


On 05/25/2013 08:18 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:

You say you put them in your pocket.  I would think it would greatly
shorten their life to be in my pocket a lot, with my getting up, sitting
down, and other movements throughout the day not only stressing the ear
bud and plug connections, but also the remote.  Or, are they more
durable than I suspect?

Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:13 AM
Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover



Hi Brice,

As Chuck and Richard already pointed out, a Bluetooth earpiece is one
solution. But as you say, it is another item you have to make sure is
charged up and I personally don't like it if I have to do any amount of
typing. I do own one and use it at times, but first of all I feel I look
like a nurd (no offense to anybody who wears it all day) and I just don't
like the small lag when I am typing, it makes typing on the virtual
keyboard
even slower as it is. There is also a third reason why I don't want to
have
it in all day and that is the fact that nobody really knows if it is all
that healthy.

I very much prefer the Apple earpods, they are less conspicuous and even
lighter than even the lightest Bluetooth earpiece. Depending on where
I am
and what I am doing I often just have the right one in my ear since it
has
the microphone and remote and I just have the left one hanging around my
neck. It's become total habit for me to grab them in the morning, wrap
them
around my hand and put them in my pocket.

In short, if you are in public and you don't want anybody to hear your
phone
a headset or earpiece of some sort is your only option. I personally
wouldn't be too worried about people listening to a text message I might
type, somebody really would have to pay attention to put together what
you
are typing if they hear a letter at a time, but of course if it's noisy a
headset really is the way to go and it has the additional benefit that
you
can keep your phone on your belt or in your pocket when a call comes in.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Brice Smith
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Listening to Voiceover

Hi,

I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
speech down low and do your best?

In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
and keep track of.

What works for you?

Brice

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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Craig Werner
If one uses one's pocket to carry small headphones, enclosing them in
the smallest possible zip lock bag is  a good idea.  To avoid kinking
and crimping of the cable, just be careful to wind the cord loosely
before inserting it into the bag.

Craig

On 5/25/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I keep mine in my pocket when I'm out and about. I'll pull them out of
 my pocket and leave them on a table if I'm at home or in the office. My
 pockets are fairly capacious, and I don't worry about their durability
 at all keeping them in my pocket like I do.

 On 05/25/2013 08:18 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
 You say you put them in your pocket.  I would think it would greatly
 shorten their life to be in my pocket a lot, with my getting up, sitting
 down, and other movements throughout the day not only stressing the ear
 bud and plug connections, but also the remote.  Or, are they more
 durable than I suspect?

 Arnold Schmidt
 - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:13 AM
 Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover


 Hi Brice,

 As Chuck and Richard already pointed out, a Bluetooth earpiece is one
 solution. But as you say, it is another item you have to make sure is
 charged up and I personally don't like it if I have to do any amount of
 typing. I do own one and use it at times, but first of all I feel I look
 like a nurd (no offense to anybody who wears it all day) and I just
 don't
 like the small lag when I am typing, it makes typing on the virtual
 keyboard
 even slower as it is. There is also a third reason why I don't want to
 have
 it in all day and that is the fact that nobody really knows if it is all
 that healthy.

 I very much prefer the Apple earpods, they are less conspicuous and even
 lighter than even the lightest Bluetooth earpiece. Depending on where
 I am
 and what I am doing I often just have the right one in my ear since it
 has
 the microphone and remote and I just have the left one hanging around my
 neck. It's become total habit for me to grab them in the morning, wrap
 them
 around my hand and put them in my pocket.

 In short, if you are in public and you don't want anybody to hear your
 phone
 a headset or earpiece of some sort is your only option. I personally
 wouldn't be too worried about people listening to a text message I might
 type, somebody really would have to pay attention to put together what
 you
 are typing if they hear a letter at a time, but of course if it's noisy
 a
 headset really is the way to go and it has the additional benefit that
 you
 can keep your phone on your belt or in your pocket when a call comes in.


 Regards,
 Sieghard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:29 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Listening to Voiceover

 Hi,

 I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
 out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
 speech down low and do your best?

 In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
 If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
 everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
 I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
 can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
 odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
 earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
 and keep track of.

 What works for you?

 Brice

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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Okay okay, your message below made me laugh. You say that you don't want to 
look like a nerd with a Bluetooth headset on your ear yet aren't you looking 
like a nerd with the earbuds around your neck with one in your ear and one 
hanging around? It just presented a funny image to me is all. That's like a 
parent going up to a child and smacking him because he was hitting his friend. 
And as he smacks the child he says, we don't hit.

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On May 24, 2013, at 11:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Brice,
 
 As Chuck and Richard already pointed out, a Bluetooth earpiece is one
 solution. But as you say, it is another item you have to make sure is
 charged up and I personally don't like it if I have to do any amount of
 typing. I do own one and use it at times, but first of all I feel I look
 like a nurd (no offense to anybody who wears it all day) and I just don't
 like the small lag when I am typing, it makes typing on the virtual keyboard
 even slower as it is. There is also a third reason why I don't want to have
 it in all day and that is the fact that nobody really knows if it is all
 that healthy.
 
 I very much prefer the Apple earpods, they are less conspicuous and even
 lighter than even the lightest Bluetooth earpiece. Depending on where I am
 and what I am doing I often just have the right one in my ear since it has
 the microphone and remote and I just have the left one hanging around my
 neck. It's become total habit for me to grab them in the morning, wrap them
 around my hand and put them in my pocket.
 
 In short, if you are in public and you don't want anybody to hear your phone
 a headset or earpiece of some sort is your only option. I personally
 wouldn't be too worried about people listening to a text message I might
 type, somebody really would have to pay attention to put together what you
 are typing if they hear a letter at a time, but of course if it's noisy a
 headset really is the way to go and it has the additional benefit that you
 can keep your phone on your belt or in your pocket when a call comes in.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:29 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Listening to Voiceover
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
 out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
 speech down low and do your best?
 
 In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
 If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
 everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
 I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
 can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
 odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
 earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
 and keep track of.
 
 What works for you?
 
 Brice
 
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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Donna
I place my Apple earbuds into an enty metal breath mint container. I have also 
used empty prescription containers. With these other items in my pocket won't 
damage the earbuds. 

Donna

 If one uses one's pocket to carry small headphones, enclosing them in
 the smallest possible zip lock bag is  a good idea.  To avoid kinking
 and crimping of the cable, just be careful to wind the cord loosely
 before inserting it into the bag.
 
 Craig
 
 On 5/25/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I keep mine in my pocket when I'm out and about. I'll pull them out of
 my pocket and leave them on a table if I'm at home or in the office. My
 pockets are fairly capacious, and I don't worry about their durability
 at all keeping them in my pocket like I do.
 
 On 05/25/2013 08:18 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
 You say you put them in your pocket.  I would think it would greatly
 shorten their life to be in my pocket a lot, with my getting up, sitting
 down, and other movements throughout the day not only stressing the ear
 bud and plug connections, but also the remote.  Or, are they more
 durable than I suspect?
 
 Arnold Schmidt
 - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:13 AM
 Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover
 
 
 Hi Brice,
 
 As Chuck and Richard already pointed out, a Bluetooth earpiece is one
 solution. But as you say, it is another item you have to make sure is
 charged up and I personally don't like it if I have to do any amount of
 typing. I do own one and use it at times, but first of all I feel I look
 like a nurd (no offense to anybody who wears it all day) and I just
 don't
 like the small lag when I am typing, it makes typing on the virtual
 keyboard
 even slower as it is. There is also a third reason why I don't want to
 have
 it in all day and that is the fact that nobody really knows if it is all
 that healthy.
 
 I very much prefer the Apple earpods, they are less conspicuous and even
 lighter than even the lightest Bluetooth earpiece. Depending on where
 I am
 and what I am doing I often just have the right one in my ear since it
 has
 the microphone and remote and I just have the left one hanging around my
 neck. It's become total habit for me to grab them in the morning, wrap
 them
 around my hand and put them in my pocket.
 
 In short, if you are in public and you don't want anybody to hear your
 phone
 a headset or earpiece of some sort is your only option. I personally
 wouldn't be too worried about people listening to a text message I might
 type, somebody really would have to pay attention to put together what
 you
 are typing if they hear a letter at a time, but of course if it's noisy
 a
 headset really is the way to go and it has the additional benefit that
 you
 can keep your phone on your belt or in your pocket when a call comes in.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:29 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Listening to Voiceover
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
 out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
 speech down low and do your best?
 
 In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
 If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
 everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
 I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
 can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
 odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
 earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
 and keep track of.
 
 What works for you?
 
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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Tom Lange

Hi,
I don't have a bluetooth earpiece, but I do use ear buds or my Apple earpods 
when I'm in a noisy place or want some privacy. Otherwise, I just crank the 
thing up, let it say what it wants to say and go on about my business. I 
don't worry too much about what people think about the VoiceOver chatter. 
It's been my experience so far that if anybody's curious about it, I'll be 
happy to answer any questions, or, if anyone's bothered by it I'll use the 
earbuds.

Tom



- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: Listening to Voiceover


I usually just use my Apple ear buds, but occasionally I'll just crank up 
the volume of my iPhone and use the built in speakers. I usually use the 
ear bugs to help me hear VoiceOver better or so as just not to distract 
those around me. I very seldom worry about privacy, since I'm usually not 
doing something terribly private when I'm in public, and between the speech 
rate and jumping around on the screen, I don't figure too many people 
around me are going to pick up much. If I'm in a particularly loud place, 
and I don't need to worry too much about hearing something in my 
surroundings, I will pull out some 3rd party in the ear buds I have which 
provide a lot more passive noise cancellation than you get from just the 
Apple ear buds.


On 05/24/2013 11:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Brice,

As Chuck and Richard already pointed out, a Bluetooth earpiece is one
solution. But as you say, it is another item you have to make sure is
charged up and I personally don't like it if I have to do any amount of
typing. I do own one and use it at times, but first of all I feel I look
like a nurd (no offense to anybody who wears it all day) and I just don't
like the small lag when I am typing, it makes typing on the virtual 
keyboard
even slower as it is. There is also a third reason why I don't want to 
have

it in all day and that is the fact that nobody really knows if it is all
that healthy.

I very much prefer the Apple earpods, they are less conspicuous and even
lighter than even the lightest Bluetooth earpiece. Depending on where I 
am
and what I am doing I often just have the right one in my ear since it 
has

the microphone and remote and I just have the left one hanging around my
neck. It's become total habit for me to grab them in the morning, wrap 
them

around my hand and put them in my pocket.

In short, if you are in public and you don't want anybody to hear your 
phone

a headset or earpiece of some sort is your only option. I personally
wouldn't be too worried about people listening to a text message I might
type, somebody really would have to pay attention to put together what 
you

are typing if they hear a letter at a time, but of course if it's noisy a
headset really is the way to go and it has the additional benefit that 
you

can keep your phone on your belt or in your pocket when a call comes in.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Brice Smith
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Listening to Voiceover

Hi,

I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
speech down low and do your best?

In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
and keep track of.

What works for you?

Brice



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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Donna
Made me chuckle also. A bluetooth ear piece looks exactly like a hearing aid. 
So in my opinion, this would be less noticable or questionable when out and 
about, where having one part of a pair of earphones dangling would definately 
draw attention from people. 

Donna

 Okay okay, your message below made me laugh. You say that you don't want to 
 look like a nerd with a Bluetooth headset on your ear yet aren't you looking 
 like a nerd with the earbuds around your neck with one in your ear and one 
 hanging around? It just presented a funny image to me is all. That's like a 
 parent going up to a child and smacking him because he was hitting his 
 friend. And as he smacks the child he says, we don't hit.
 
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 complete errors.
 
 On May 24, 2013, at 11:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Brice,
 
 As Chuck and Richard already pointed out, a Bluetooth earpiece is one
 solution. But as you say, it is another item you have to make sure is
 charged up and I personally don't like it if I have to do any amount of
 typing. I do own one and use it at times, but first of all I feel I look
 like a nurd (no offense to anybody who wears it all day) and I just don't
 like the small lag when I am typing, it makes typing on the virtual keyboard
 even slower as it is. There is also a third reason why I don't want to have
 it in all day and that is the fact that nobody really knows if it is all
 that healthy.
 
 I very much prefer the Apple earpods, they are less conspicuous and even
 lighter than even the lightest Bluetooth earpiece. Depending on where I am
 and what I am doing I often just have the right one in my ear since it has
 the microphone and remote and I just have the left one hanging around my
 neck. It's become total habit for me to grab them in the morning, wrap them
 around my hand and put them in my pocket.
 
 In short, if you are in public and you don't want anybody to hear your phone
 a headset or earpiece of some sort is your only option. I personally
 wouldn't be too worried about people listening to a text message I might
 type, somebody really would have to pay attention to put together what you
 are typing if they hear a letter at a time, but of course if it's noisy a
 headset really is the way to go and it has the additional benefit that you
 can keep your phone on your belt or in your pocket when a call comes in.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:29 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Listening to Voiceover
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
 out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
 speech down low and do your best?
 
 In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
 If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
 everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
 I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
 can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
 odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
 earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
 and keep track of.
 
 What works for you?
 
 Brice
 
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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Tom Lange

Hi,
To keep the cables or connectors from getting damaged, I usually carry my 
earbuds or earpods around in a small Ziploc baggie so they won't get tangled 
up with my keys, nail clipper or any other paraphernalia I might carry in my 
pants pocket. .


Tom


- Original Message - 
From: Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: Listening to Voiceover


You say you put them in your pocket.  I would think it would greatly 
shorten their life to be in my pocket a lot, with my getting up, sitting 
down, and other movements throughout the day not only stressing the ear 
bud and plug connections, but also the remote.  Or, are they more durable 
than I suspect?


Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:13 AM
Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover



Hi Brice,

As Chuck and Richard already pointed out, a Bluetooth earpiece is one
solution. But as you say, it is another item you have to make sure is
charged up and I personally don't like it if I have to do any amount of
typing. I do own one and use it at times, but first of all I feel I look
like a nurd (no offense to anybody who wears it all day) and I just don't
like the small lag when I am typing, it makes typing on the virtual 
keyboard
even slower as it is. There is also a third reason why I don't want to 
have

it in all day and that is the fact that nobody really knows if it is all
that healthy.

I very much prefer the Apple earpods, they are less conspicuous and even
lighter than even the lightest Bluetooth earpiece. Depending on where I 
am
and what I am doing I often just have the right one in my ear since it 
has

the microphone and remote and I just have the left one hanging around my
neck. It's become total habit for me to grab them in the morning, wrap 
them

around my hand and put them in my pocket.

In short, if you are in public and you don't want anybody to hear your 
phone

a headset or earpiece of some sort is your only option. I personally
wouldn't be too worried about people listening to a text message I might
type, somebody really would have to pay attention to put together what 
you

are typing if they hear a letter at a time, but of course if it's noisy a
headset really is the way to go and it has the additional benefit that 
you

can keep your phone on your belt or in your pocket when a call comes in.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Brice Smith
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Listening to Voiceover

Hi,

I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
speech down low and do your best?

In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
and keep track of.

What works for you?

Brice

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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Richard Turner
My wife made me a handy carrying case with a strap so I can carry my iPod Touch 
or an iPhone over my shoulder, and the case has a pocket for the ear pods.
It means I don't have to dig anything out of any pockets, it just hangs at my 
side so I can grab it whenever I want.



Richard
(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)

On May 25, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Tom Lange lang...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 To keep the cables or connectors from getting damaged, I usually carry my 
 earbuds or earpods around in a small Ziploc baggie so they won't get tangled 
 up with my keys, nail clipper or any other paraphernalia I might carry in my 
 pants pocket. .
 
 Tom
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 6:18 AM
 Subject: Re: Listening to Voiceover
 
 
 You say you put them in your pocket.  I would think it would greatly shorten 
 their life to be in my pocket a lot, with my getting up, sitting down, and 
 other movements throughout the day not only stressing the ear bud and plug 
 connections, but also the remote.  Or, are they more durable than I suspect?
 
 Arnold Schmidt
 - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:13 AM
 Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover
 
 
 Hi Brice,
 
 As Chuck and Richard already pointed out, a Bluetooth earpiece is one
 solution. But as you say, it is another item you have to make sure is
 charged up and I personally don't like it if I have to do any amount of
 typing. I do own one and use it at times, but first of all I feel I look
 like a nurd (no offense to anybody who wears it all day) and I just don't
 like the small lag when I am typing, it makes typing on the virtual keyboard
 even slower as it is. There is also a third reason why I don't want to have
 it in all day and that is the fact that nobody really knows if it is all
 that healthy.
 
 I very much prefer the Apple earpods, they are less conspicuous and even
 lighter than even the lightest Bluetooth earpiece. Depending on where I am
 and what I am doing I often just have the right one in my ear since it has
 the microphone and remote and I just have the left one hanging around my
 neck. It's become total habit for me to grab them in the morning, wrap them
 around my hand and put them in my pocket.
 
 In short, if you are in public and you don't want anybody to hear your phone
 a headset or earpiece of some sort is your only option. I personally
 wouldn't be too worried about people listening to a text message I might
 type, somebody really would have to pay attention to put together what you
 are typing if they hear a letter at a time, but of course if it's noisy a
 headset really is the way to go and it has the additional benefit that you
 can keep your phone on your belt or in your pocket when a call comes in.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:29 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Listening to Voiceover
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
 out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
 speech down low and do your best?
 
 In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
 If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
 everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
 I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
 can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
 odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
 earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
 and keep track of.
 
 What works for you?
 
 Brice
 
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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, to add to this discussion what I do is use a single-ear headset like 
the Plantronics M50. I just recently purchased the Samsung HM1700 and am 
liking the volume on it better than the M50, but I haven't found a 
comfortable fit for it yet. So, still on the fence about that one. I 
find that the single-ear headset is good for me because I can pull it 
out right away if I need total hearing with both ears, but at the same 
time it's not jammed in my ear totally covering it in case I need it 
either. For phone calls the M50 sucks in my opinion, but for all the 
other pros it offers I still think it's the best single-ear headset. If 
I need something covering both of my ears I will either use the Motorola 
S11 headset which wraps around the back of your neck, has great range, 
and has great sound with playing music in both ears. It has a slightly 
annoying delay which I'm not too proud of, but all Bluetooth headsets 
have this delay. Some are just worse than others though. The M50 and the 
HM1700 are ok, but the S11 isn't the best.


I try to avoid using wired connections because I like all that radiation 
flowing through my skull and because since we are all going to die some 
day, why not die cord free and happy? I don't have Apple earpods, and 
I'm not sure if I will get them since I have a bit of choice of things 
already. yes it's more to charge, but I also have a 3-in-1 charger usb 
cable with the standard usb end on one side which plugs into a usb 
charger wall plug on one end, and the other end has either a 30-pin for 
iPhone 4, and then it has a lightning plug for iPhone 5 and newer, and 
lastly, a Micro USB for the headsets or an Android phone.


Since I usually carry around a extra battery pack from new Trent which 
holds either 6000 or 12,000 mAH depending on the one I use, I'm good 
with not running out of juice if I'm around places I can't connect to a 
wall.


Lastly, if I don't have all my gadgets with me, I will hold the phone 
close to my ear like I'm making a phone call and tap away that way. We 
live in a sighted world and so I try to not appear to be socially inept, 
however many sighted people do worse things, and we just don't know 
about them because we can't see them. So, that helps me not worry too much.


Hope that helps.

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Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47

On 5/24/2013 11:28 AM, Brice Smith wrote:

Hi,

I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
speech down low and do your best?

In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
and keep track of.

What works for you?

Brice



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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Katey Glass
Hello All,

When out I have the volume loud enough so that I can hear my phone but not 
overly loud.  I also hold it off center and more than likely closer than the 
average sighted person does.  Also there are times I use a magnifier and 
actually look at my phone, and yes I know this looks different, as I've seen 
others who have low vision do this and I figure if someone sighted wants to 
ask, then they can .. but in public I have my cane as well, so I figure they 
probably know I don't see well!  LOL  

I do carry my apple earbuds with me for when it's too loud and I don't want to 
use a magnifier as Voice over is really more efficient for me to do things with 
for longer periods of time.  And yes I know that theres zoom on my phone, but I 
have to have that zoomed in so much that thats very inefficient for me to use 
at all.  

Katey 

Sent from my iPad

On May 25, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:

 Hi, to add to this discussion what I do is use a single-ear headset like the 
 Plantronics M50. I just recently purchased the Samsung HM1700 and am liking 
 the volume on it better than the M50, but I haven't found a comfortable fit 
 for it yet. So, still on the fence about that one. I find that the single-ear 
 headset is good for me because I can pull it out right away if I need total 
 hearing with both ears, but at the same time it's not jammed in my ear 
 totally covering it in case I need it either. For phone calls the M50 sucks 
 in my opinion, but for all the other pros it offers I still think it's the 
 best single-ear headset. If I need something covering both of my ears I will 
 either use the Motorola S11 headset which wraps around the back of your neck, 
 has great range, and has great sound with playing music in both ears. It has 
 a slightly annoying delay which I'm not too proud of, but all Bluetooth 
 headsets have this delay. Some are just worse than others though. The M50 and 
 the HM1700 are ok, but the S11 isn't the best.
 
 I try to avoid using wired connections because I like all that radiation 
 flowing through my skull and because since we are all going to die some day, 
 why not die cord free and happy? I don't have Apple earpods, and I'm not sure 
 if I will get them since I have a bit of choice of things already. yes it's 
 more to charge, but I also have a 3-in-1 charger usb cable with the standard 
 usb end on one side which plugs into a usb charger wall plug on one end, and 
 the other end has either a 30-pin for iPhone 4, and then it has a lightning 
 plug for iPhone 5 and newer, and lastly, a Micro USB for the headsets or an 
 Android phone.
 
 Since I usually carry around a extra battery pack from new Trent which holds 
 either 6000 or 12,000 mAH depending on the one I use, I'm good with not 
 running out of juice if I'm around places I can't connect to a wall.
 
 Lastly, if I don't have all my gadgets with me, I will hold the phone close 
 to my ear like I'm making a phone call and tap away that way. We live in a 
 sighted world and so I try to not appear to be socially inept, however many 
 sighted people do worse things, and we just don't know about them because we 
 can't see them. So, that helps me not worry too much.
 
 Hope that helps.
 
 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 Immature: A word boring people use to describe fun people. - Sheldon Cooper
 Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
 
 On 5/24/2013 11:28 AM, Brice Smith wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
 out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
 speech down low and do your best?
 
 In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
 If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
 everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
 I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
 can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
 odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
 earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
 and keep track of.
 
 What works for you?
 
 Brice
 
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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hello,

For those who didn't already know, your Apple earbuds/earPods are covered under 
Apple care.  So, you have a year from the purchase of your device to replace 
your headphones if they become damaged or, 2 years if you payed to extend Apple 
care.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On May 25, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:

 If one uses one's pocket to carry small headphones, enclosing them in
 the smallest possible zip lock bag is  a good idea.  To avoid kinking
 and crimping of the cable, just be careful to wind the cord loosely
 before inserting it into the bag.
 
 Craig
 
 On 5/25/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I keep mine in my pocket when I'm out and about. I'll pull them out of
 my pocket and leave them on a table if I'm at home or in the office. My
 pockets are fairly capacious, and I don't worry about their durability
 at all keeping them in my pocket like I do.
 
 On 05/25/2013 08:18 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
 You say you put them in your pocket.  I would think it would greatly
 shorten their life to be in my pocket a lot, with my getting up, sitting
 down, and other movements throughout the day not only stressing the ear
 bud and plug connections, but also the remote.  Or, are they more
 durable than I suspect?
 
 Arnold Schmidt
 - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:13 AM
 Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover
 
 
 Hi Brice,
 
 As Chuck and Richard already pointed out, a Bluetooth earpiece is one
 solution. But as you say, it is another item you have to make sure is
 charged up and I personally don't like it if I have to do any amount of
 typing. I do own one and use it at times, but first of all I feel I look
 like a nurd (no offense to anybody who wears it all day) and I just
 don't
 like the small lag when I am typing, it makes typing on the virtual
 keyboard
 even slower as it is. There is also a third reason why I don't want to
 have
 it in all day and that is the fact that nobody really knows if it is all
 that healthy.
 
 I very much prefer the Apple earpods, they are less conspicuous and even
 lighter than even the lightest Bluetooth earpiece. Depending on where
 I am
 and what I am doing I often just have the right one in my ear since it
 has
 the microphone and remote and I just have the left one hanging around my
 neck. It's become total habit for me to grab them in the morning, wrap
 them
 around my hand and put them in my pocket.
 
 In short, if you are in public and you don't want anybody to hear your
 phone
 a headset or earpiece of some sort is your only option. I personally
 wouldn't be too worried about people listening to a text message I might
 type, somebody really would have to pay attention to put together what
 you
 are typing if they hear a letter at a time, but of course if it's noisy
 a
 headset really is the way to go and it has the additional benefit that
 you
 can keep your phone on your belt or in your pocket when a call comes in.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:29 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Listening to Voiceover
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
 out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
 speech down low and do your best?
 
 In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
 If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
 everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
 I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
 can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
 odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
 earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
 and keep track of.
 
 What works for you?
 
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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Andy Baracco

I agree.
Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Anne Robertson

Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 11:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Listening to Voiceover

I use my Aftershokz bone conduction headset as I can't stand having my ears 
blocked with earbuds. I don't feel safe if I can't hear my environment.


Cheers,

Anne

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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Andy Baracco
I use the pods when I am on a long bus ride, or somewhere where I'm not 
actually walking on the street. I use the Aftershokz if I am on a short bus 
ride, or actually walking.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Cara Quinn

Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 1:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Listening to Voiceover

Hi Brice,

I keep a set of Apple Ear Pods in my purse. I usually just use the phone's 
speaker when doing something simple and quick but if I need privacy or the 
environment is not conducive to that then I'll either use one Ear Pod or 
both, depending on what I'm doing.


When I'm done I just put the Pods and / or phone back in my purse and that's 
that. :)


HTH -Great question / topic!

Cara :)
On May 24, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Brice Smith brsmith2...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
speech down low and do your best?

In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
and keep track of.

What works for you?

Brice

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RE: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Raul,

Maybe, but the way I do this you typically can't see the left earbud which
is hanging around my neck inside my shirt collar. I do admit that in the
summer if I only wear a T-Shirt you can see the cable more, but since where
I live you have to wear some sort of second layer for probably 7 months out
of the year and then it is very inconspicuous. Anyhow, I did say this was my
thought and it's not as if I have to have the earpiece in my ear all the
time. My Jabra Supreme is not the smallest, but I do like the fact that it
folds and by folding the microphone boom you turn it on/off. I never have to
worry that I forget to turn it off and use up the battery and I can take
this thing out of my pocket, unfold it and put it on my ear by the third
ring.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Listening to Voiceover

Okay okay, your message below made me laugh. You say that you don't want to
look like a nerd with a Bluetooth headset on your ear yet aren't you looking
like a nerd with the earbuds around your neck with one in your ear and one
hanging around? It just presented a funny image to me is all. That's like a
parent going up to a child and smacking him because he was hitting his
friend. And as he smacks the child he says, we don't hit.

---
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auto complete errors.

On May 24, 2013, at 11:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Brice,
 
 As Chuck and Richard already pointed out, a Bluetooth earpiece is one 
 solution. But as you say, it is another item you have to make sure is 
 charged up and I personally don't like it if I have to do any amount 
 of typing. I do own one and use it at times, but first of all I feel I 
 look like a nurd (no offense to anybody who wears it all day) and I 
 just don't like the small lag when I am typing, it makes typing on the 
 virtual keyboard even slower as it is. There is also a third reason 
 why I don't want to have it in all day and that is the fact that 
 nobody really knows if it is all that healthy.
 
 I very much prefer the Apple earpods, they are less conspicuous and 
 even lighter than even the lightest Bluetooth earpiece. Depending on 
 where I am and what I am doing I often just have the right one in my 
 ear since it has the microphone and remote and I just have the left 
 one hanging around my neck. It's become total habit for me to grab 
 them in the morning, wrap them around my hand and put them in my pocket.
 
 In short, if you are in public and you don't want anybody to hear your 
 phone a headset or earpiece of some sort is your only option. I 
 personally wouldn't be too worried about people listening to a text 
 message I might type, somebody really would have to pay attention to 
 put together what you are typing if they hear a letter at a time, but 
 of course if it's noisy a headset really is the way to go and it has 
 the additional benefit that you can keep your phone on your belt or in
your pocket when a call comes in.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:29 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Listening to Voiceover
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're 
 out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the 
 speech down low and do your best?
 
 In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
 If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without 
 everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes 
 I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I 
 can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really 
 odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or 
 earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge 
 and keep track of.
 
 What works for you?
 
 Brice
 
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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi Sieghard. Fair enough. I also hope you knew I was mainly teasing you. 
The bottom line is that no matter what each of us do, blind or sighted, 
to some we will look like nerds or freaks. What I like seeing is a sweet 
little 85 year old lady texting and talking on her bluetooth headset. 
Now, that's a wonderful thing.


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On 5/25/2013 4:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Raul,

Maybe, but the way I do this you typically can't see the left earbud which
is hanging around my neck inside my shirt collar. I do admit that in the
summer if I only wear a T-Shirt you can see the cable more, but since where
I live you have to wear some sort of second layer for probably 7 months out
of the year and then it is very inconspicuous. Anyhow, I did say this was my
thought and it's not as if I have to have the earpiece in my ear all the
time. My Jabra Supreme is not the smallest, but I do like the fact that it
folds and by folding the microphone boom you turn it on/off. I never have to
worry that I forget to turn it off and use up the battery and I can take
this thing out of my pocket, unfold it and put it on my ear by the third
ring.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Listening to Voiceover

Okay okay, your message below made me laugh. You say that you don't want to
look like a nerd with a Bluetooth headset on your ear yet aren't you looking
like a nerd with the earbuds around your neck with one in your ear and one
hanging around? It just presented a funny image to me is all. That's like a
parent going up to a child and smacking him because he was hitting his
friend. And as he smacks the child he says, we don't hit.

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auto complete errors.

On May 24, 2013, at 11:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:


Hi Brice,

As Chuck and Richard already pointed out, a Bluetooth earpiece is one
solution. But as you say, it is another item you have to make sure is
charged up and I personally don't like it if I have to do any amount
of typing. I do own one and use it at times, but first of all I feel I
look like a nurd (no offense to anybody who wears it all day) and I
just don't like the small lag when I am typing, it makes typing on the
virtual keyboard even slower as it is. There is also a third reason
why I don't want to have it in all day and that is the fact that
nobody really knows if it is all that healthy.

I very much prefer the Apple earpods, they are less conspicuous and
even lighter than even the lightest Bluetooth earpiece. Depending on
where I am and what I am doing I often just have the right one in my
ear since it has the microphone and remote and I just have the left
one hanging around my neck. It's become total habit for me to grab
them in the morning, wrap them around my hand and put them in my pocket.

In short, if you are in public and you don't want anybody to hear your
phone a headset or earpiece of some sort is your only option. I
personally wouldn't be too worried about people listening to a text
message I might type, somebody really would have to pay attention to
put together what you are typing if they hear a letter at a time, but
of course if it's noisy a headset really is the way to go and it has
the additional benefit that you can keep your phone on your belt or in

your pocket when a call comes in.



Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Brice Smith
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Listening to Voiceover

Hi,

I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
speech down low and do your best?

In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
and keep track of.

What works for you?

Brice

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RE: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Alan Lemly
I use a single ear wired headset when using the phone in public where I need
to listen to what's going on around me. Otherwise, I use the earpods that
came with my iPhone 5.

Alan Lemly

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Of Brice Smith
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 11:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Listening to Voiceover

Hi,

I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
speech down low and do your best?

In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
and keep track of.

What works for you?

Brice

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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Anthony Vece
I think he means his shirt pocket.

I do the same thing.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5!

On May 25, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com wrote:

 You say you put them in your pocket.  I would think it would greatly shorten 
 their life to be in my pocket a lot, with my getting up, sitting down, and 
 other movements throughout the day not only stressing the ear bud and plug 
 connections, but also the remote.  Or, are they more durable than I suspect?
 
 Arnold Schmidt
 - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:13 AM
 Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover
 
 
 Hi Brice,
 
 As Chuck and Richard already pointed out, a Bluetooth earpiece is one
 solution. But as you say, it is another item you have to make sure is
 charged up and I personally don't like it if I have to do any amount of
 typing. I do own one and use it at times, but first of all I feel I look
 like a nurd (no offense to anybody who wears it all day) and I just don't
 like the small lag when I am typing, it makes typing on the virtual keyboard
 even slower as it is. There is also a third reason why I don't want to have
 it in all day and that is the fact that nobody really knows if it is all
 that healthy.
 
 I very much prefer the Apple earpods, they are less conspicuous and even
 lighter than even the lightest Bluetooth earpiece. Depending on where I am
 and what I am doing I often just have the right one in my ear since it has
 the microphone and remote and I just have the left one hanging around my
 neck. It's become total habit for me to grab them in the morning, wrap them
 around my hand and put them in my pocket.
 
 In short, if you are in public and you don't want anybody to hear your phone
 a headset or earpiece of some sort is your only option. I personally
 wouldn't be too worried about people listening to a text message I might
 type, somebody really would have to pay attention to put together what you
 are typing if they hear a letter at a time, but of course if it's noisy a
 headset really is the way to go and it has the additional benefit that you
 can keep your phone on your belt or in your pocket when a call comes in.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:29 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Listening to Voiceover
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
 out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
 speech down low and do your best?
 
 In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
 If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
 everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
 I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
 can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
 odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
 earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
 and keep track of.
 
 What works for you?
 
 Brice
 
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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Brice Smith
Thanks, Raul. You touch on the reason I started this; the whole
holding the phone up close to the ear and tapping away. This is what
I've naturally preferred, but a colleague pointed out how weird and
unprofessional it looks. It's not something I had thought about before
and I was kind of caught off guard. It does make sense how odd it
probably looks to hold a phone up chest level or next to your cheek or
ear and type, though.

I do not have hearing problems at all. Still, at least for me, I've
got to have the voice near my ear when typing because when using touch
typing it can be difficult to really hear Samantha in a lot of
environments without turning the volume up. These are the only times I
wish the iPhone had a physical keyboard.

Finally, the speakers on the iPhone 4s are kind of bad, anyway. When I
was using a Mophie Battery Juice case the speakers faced up which made
the sound clearer.

Just some observations.

Brice

On 5/25/13, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:
 Hi, to add to this discussion what I do is use a single-ear headset like
 the Plantronics M50. I just recently purchased the Samsung HM1700 and am
 liking the volume on it better than the M50, but I haven't found a
 comfortable fit for it yet. So, still on the fence about that one. I
 find that the single-ear headset is good for me because I can pull it
 out right away if I need total hearing with both ears, but at the same
 time it's not jammed in my ear totally covering it in case I need it
 either. For phone calls the M50 sucks in my opinion, but for all the
 other pros it offers I still think it's the best single-ear headset. If
 I need something covering both of my ears I will either use the Motorola
 S11 headset which wraps around the back of your neck, has great range,
 and has great sound with playing music in both ears. It has a slightly
 annoying delay which I'm not too proud of, but all Bluetooth headsets
 have this delay. Some are just worse than others though. The M50 and the
 HM1700 are ok, but the S11 isn't the best.

 I try to avoid using wired connections because I like all that radiation
 flowing through my skull and because since we are all going to die some
 day, why not die cord free and happy? I don't have Apple earpods, and
 I'm not sure if I will get them since I have a bit of choice of things
 already. yes it's more to charge, but I also have a 3-in-1 charger usb
 cable with the standard usb end on one side which plugs into a usb
 charger wall plug on one end, and the other end has either a 30-pin for
 iPhone 4, and then it has a lightning plug for iPhone 5 and newer, and
 lastly, a Micro USB for the headsets or an Android phone.

 Since I usually carry around a extra battery pack from new Trent which
 holds either 6000 or 12,000 mAH depending on the one I use, I'm good
 with not running out of juice if I'm around places I can't connect to a
 wall.

 Lastly, if I don't have all my gadgets with me, I will hold the phone
 close to my ear like I'm making a phone call and tap away that way. We
 live in a sighted world and so I try to not appear to be socially inept,
 however many sighted people do worse things, and we just don't know
 about them because we can't see them. So, that helps me not worry too much.

 Hope that helps.

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 Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47

 On 5/24/2013 11:28 AM, Brice Smith wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
 out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
 speech down low and do your best?

 In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
 If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
 everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
 I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
 can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
 odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
 earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
 and keep track of.

 What works for you?

 Brice


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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Brice Smith
Thanks for the feedback everyone -- I certainly knew there wasn't
necessarily a one size fits all answer, but it's good to hear what
works for some of you and what doesn't for others.

Maybe certain bluetooth pieces work better than others to reduce lag?
I bought a pair to use while working out, but I can't imagine using it
every day because the lag is distracting. Whatever the case, I've also
thought about buying a cheap pair of earbuds and snapping off one of
the wires, so I would only have one simple wire to deal with and
nothing else hanging from my neck.

Thanks again,
Brice

On 5/25/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hi Brice,

 As Chuck and Richard already pointed out, a Bluetooth earpiece is one
 solution. But as you say, it is another item you have to make sure is
 charged up and I personally don't like it if I have to do any amount of
 typing. I do own one and use it at times, but first of all I feel I look
 like a nurd (no offense to anybody who wears it all day) and I just don't
 like the small lag when I am typing, it makes typing on the virtual
 keyboard
 even slower as it is. There is also a third reason why I don't want to have
 it in all day and that is the fact that nobody really knows if it is all
 that healthy.

 I very much prefer the Apple earpods, they are less conspicuous and even
 lighter than even the lightest Bluetooth earpiece. Depending on where I am
 and what I am doing I often just have the right one in my ear since it has
 the microphone and remote and I just have the left one hanging around my
 neck. It's become total habit for me to grab them in the morning, wrap them
 around my hand and put them in my pocket.

 In short, if you are in public and you don't want anybody to hear your
 phone
 a headset or earpiece of some sort is your only option. I personally
 wouldn't be too worried about people listening to a text message I might
 type, somebody really would have to pay attention to put together what you
 are typing if they hear a letter at a time, but of course if it's noisy a
 headset really is the way to go and it has the additional benefit that you
 can keep your phone on your belt or in your pocket when a call comes in.


 Regards,
 Sieghard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:29 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Listening to Voiceover

 Hi,

 I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
 out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
 speech down low and do your best?

 In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
 If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
 everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
 I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
 can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
 odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
 earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
 and keep track of.

 What works for you?

 Brice

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RE: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Bryce,

Also keep in mind that just because one colleague thinks it looks weird and
unprofessional it doesn't mean everybody thinks that. It may also look
unprofessional in certain situations to try and find your way around by
tapping along with a white cane or at least some may say that it is. In any
case, whether it is or isn't is in my opinion beyond the point, you do what
you have to do. I prefer a headset but if I didn't have one and had to type
a message I'd have no problems holding the phone in whichever way allows me
to do so.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brice Smith
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Listening to Voiceover

Thanks, Raul. You touch on the reason I started this; the whole holding the
phone up close to the ear and tapping away. This is what I've naturally
preferred, but a colleague pointed out how weird and unprofessional it
looks. It's not something I had thought about before and I was kind of
caught off guard. It does make sense how odd it probably looks to hold a
phone up chest level or next to your cheek or ear and type, though.

I do not have hearing problems at all. Still, at least for me, I've got to
have the voice near my ear when typing because when using touch typing it
can be difficult to really hear Samantha in a lot of environments without
turning the volume up. These are the only times I wish the iPhone had a
physical keyboard.

Finally, the speakers on the iPhone 4s are kind of bad, anyway. When I was
using a Mophie Battery Juice case the speakers faced up which made the sound
clearer.

Just some observations.

Brice

On 5/25/13, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:
 Hi, to add to this discussion what I do is use a single-ear headset 
 like the Plantronics M50. I just recently purchased the Samsung HM1700 
 and am liking the volume on it better than the M50, but I haven't 
 found a comfortable fit for it yet. So, still on the fence about that 
 one. I find that the single-ear headset is good for me because I can 
 pull it out right away if I need total hearing with both ears, but at 
 the same time it's not jammed in my ear totally covering it in case I 
 need it either. For phone calls the M50 sucks in my opinion, but for 
 all the other pros it offers I still think it's the best single-ear 
 headset. If I need something covering both of my ears I will either 
 use the Motorola
 S11 headset which wraps around the back of your neck, has great range, 
 and has great sound with playing music in both ears. It has a slightly 
 annoying delay which I'm not too proud of, but all Bluetooth headsets 
 have this delay. Some are just worse than others though. The M50 and 
 the
 HM1700 are ok, but the S11 isn't the best.

 I try to avoid using wired connections because I like all that 
 radiation flowing through my skull and because since we are all going 
 to die some day, why not die cord free and happy? I don't have Apple 
 earpods, and I'm not sure if I will get them since I have a bit of 
 choice of things already. yes it's more to charge, but I also have a 
 3-in-1 charger usb cable with the standard usb end on one side which 
 plugs into a usb charger wall plug on one end, and the other end has 
 either a 30-pin for iPhone 4, and then it has a lightning plug for 
 iPhone 5 and newer, and lastly, a Micro USB for the headsets or an Android
phone.

 Since I usually carry around a extra battery pack from new Trent which 
 holds either 6000 or 12,000 mAH depending on the one I use, I'm good 
 with not running out of juice if I'm around places I can't connect to 
 a wall.

 Lastly, if I don't have all my gadgets with me, I will hold the phone 
 close to my ear like I'm making a phone call and tap away that way. We 
 live in a sighted world and so I try to not appear to be socially 
 inept, however many sighted people do worse things, and we just don't 
 know about them because we can't see them. So, that helps me not worry too
much.

 Hope that helps.

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 On 5/24/2013 11:28 AM, Brice Smith wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when 
 you're out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you 
 turn the speech down low and do your best?

 In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
 If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without 
 everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes 
 I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I 
 can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really 
 odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or 
 earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge 
 and keep track of.

 What

Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-24 Thread Brice Smith
Hi,

I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
speech down low and do your best?

In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
and keep track of.

What works for you?

Brice

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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-24 Thread Chuck Dean
I use the Plantronics M fifty blue tooth headset. I wear it all the time, so 
much I forget to take it off when going through air port security. Works for 
me! 

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. 

On May 24, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Brice Smith brsmith2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
 out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
 speech down low and do your best?
 
 In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
 If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
 everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
 I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
 can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
 odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
 earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
 and keep track of.
 
 What works for you?
 
 Brice
 
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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-24 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

When out and about, I usually use my bluetooth earpiece.  For me, it makes 
using hearing Voiceover much easier in noisy environments.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On May 24, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Brice Smith brsmith2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
 out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
 speech down low and do your best?
 
 In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
 If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
 everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
 I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
 can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
 odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
 earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
 and keep track of.
 
 What works for you?
 
 Brice
 
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RE: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-24 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Brice,

As Chuck and Richard already pointed out, a Bluetooth earpiece is one
solution. But as you say, it is another item you have to make sure is
charged up and I personally don't like it if I have to do any amount of
typing. I do own one and use it at times, but first of all I feel I look
like a nurd (no offense to anybody who wears it all day) and I just don't
like the small lag when I am typing, it makes typing on the virtual keyboard
even slower as it is. There is also a third reason why I don't want to have
it in all day and that is the fact that nobody really knows if it is all
that healthy.

I very much prefer the Apple earpods, they are less conspicuous and even
lighter than even the lightest Bluetooth earpiece. Depending on where I am
and what I am doing I often just have the right one in my ear since it has
the microphone and remote and I just have the left one hanging around my
neck. It's become total habit for me to grab them in the morning, wrap them
around my hand and put them in my pocket.

In short, if you are in public and you don't want anybody to hear your phone
a headset or earpiece of some sort is your only option. I personally
wouldn't be too worried about people listening to a text message I might
type, somebody really would have to pay attention to put together what you
are typing if they hear a letter at a time, but of course if it's noisy a
headset really is the way to go and it has the additional benefit that you
can keep your phone on your belt or in your pocket when a call comes in.


Regards,
Sieghard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brice Smith
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Listening to Voiceover

Hi,

I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
speech down low and do your best?

In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
and keep track of.

What works for you?

Brice

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Re: Listening to Voiceover

2013-05-24 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I usually just use my Apple ear buds, but occasionally I'll just crank 
up the volume of my iPhone and use the built in speakers. I usually use 
the ear bugs to help me hear VoiceOver better or so as just not to 
distract those around me. I very seldom worry about privacy, since I'm 
usually not doing something terribly private when I'm in public, and 
between the speech rate and jumping around on the screen, I don't figure 
too many people around me are going to pick up much. If I'm in a 
particularly loud place, and I don't need to worry too much about 
hearing something in my surroundings, I will pull out some 3rd party in 
the ear buds I have which provide a lot more passive noise cancellation 
than you get from just the Apple ear buds.


On 05/24/2013 11:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Brice,

As Chuck and Richard already pointed out, a Bluetooth earpiece is one
solution. But as you say, it is another item you have to make sure is
charged up and I personally don't like it if I have to do any amount of
typing. I do own one and use it at times, but first of all I feel I look
like a nurd (no offense to anybody who wears it all day) and I just don't
like the small lag when I am typing, it makes typing on the virtual keyboard
even slower as it is. There is also a third reason why I don't want to have
it in all day and that is the fact that nobody really knows if it is all
that healthy.

I very much prefer the Apple earpods, they are less conspicuous and even
lighter than even the lightest Bluetooth earpiece. Depending on where I am
and what I am doing I often just have the right one in my ear since it has
the microphone and remote and I just have the left one hanging around my
neck. It's become total habit for me to grab them in the morning, wrap them
around my hand and put them in my pocket.

In short, if you are in public and you don't want anybody to hear your phone
a headset or earpiece of some sort is your only option. I personally
wouldn't be too worried about people listening to a text message I might
type, somebody really would have to pay attention to put together what you
are typing if they hear a letter at a time, but of course if it's noisy a
headset really is the way to go and it has the additional benefit that you
can keep your phone on your belt or in your pocket when a call comes in.


Regards,
Sieghard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brice Smith
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Listening to Voiceover

Hi,

I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
speech down low and do your best?

In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
and keep track of.

What works for you?

Brice



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