Re: Music issue

[David Grossoehme]

Good Morning:  It sounds like the party you spoke to didn't go far 
enough on this.  With a big change of music a ticket should have been 
written up on this.  If you have paid for these songs, I'd be vary upset 
and going to their customer service on why they are losing something 
that they receive money for.  If a technical ticket is written, it will 
move down the line to someone who can find out the issue, instead of 
just telling you they don't know what has happened.  It's coming to a 
point for all us to push these companies to do what is required to 
correct programs.  I'm a retired programmer, so, I'm not just telling 
you to do something out of the blue, to waste your time.  Good luck.


Dave


On 2/12/2024 6:13 PM, Laury, Shawnese (LEO) wrote:


Hello I have music on my iPhone that I paid to download through iTunes 
and I’m noticing that some songs are grayed out and are indicating 
that they are not available in my region. I have never changed my 
settings and I’m wondering why this is happening. I did speak with 
apple and they tried to fix it with no resolve. If anyone knows why 
this is happening or how to rectify it please let me know.


Thanks

Shawnese Laury, MA, CRC, LLPC

Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor

Bureau of Services for Blind Persons

Cadillac Place

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Music issue

[Laury, Shawnese (LEO)]

Hello I have music on my iPhone that I paid to download through iTunes and I'm 
noticing that some songs are grayed out and are indicating that they are not 
available in my region. I have never changed my settings and I'm wondering why 
this is happening. I did speak with apple and they tried to fix it with no 
resolve. If anyone knows why this is happening or how to rectify it please let 
me know.

Thanks


Shawnese Laury, MA, CRC, LLPC
Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor
Bureau of Services for Blind Persons
Cadillac Place
3038 W. Grand Blvd
Suite 4-450
Detroit, MI 48202
313.269.9055 (C)
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Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

[Richard Turner]

You really should be clear that you are using the beta, or you will have people 
checking to see where the 15.3 update is ...



Richard

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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Dec 24, 2021, at 8:00 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:

 I am using a 12 pro max with 15.3. Hopefully they are working on the issue 
now.

Jenn and Kumi

On Dec 23, 2021, at 6:01 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

Hello Jenn,

Thanks for the confirmation. May I ask what iPhone and version of iOS you’re 
using please?

I have tried everything I can think of to resolve this issue and establish a 
cause.

I have signed out of iCloud and back in, reset the device and erased all 
content and settings, set it up as a new device and put it in Recovery Mode and 
updated via iTunes but the problem remains.

I have an iPhone 12 Pro Max and am in the UK but I don’t think it is is not a 
geographical problem.

I cannot attribute the problem to the bit rate of the tracks as these vary 
between albums and have no apparent effect on the playback of tracks. Some 
tracks exhibit the problem while others do not. Even downloading the tracks to 
the iPhone does not change the outcome so presumably it’s not a network issue.

I could compile a list of albums that play as they should and those that do 
not, but I don’t think that would help.

The strange thing is that if I double-tap any track they play fine. It is only 
when one track follows another the problem is apparent.
Another album which is an older recording that is problematical is:

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/mascagni-cavalleria-rusticana-leoncavallo-i-pagliacci/691492718

As this protracted issue may be of little or no interest to other list members 
I will close by thanking you all for your thoughts and efforts to help me track 
down this issue.

Malcolm Parfitt

On 23 Dec 2021, at 04:15, Jennie Facer  wrote:

That is exactly what i did. I played a song that said something like “Do I 
Have It In Me,” then I let it play into the next track without pausing or 
touching the phone. What you mentioned did not happen to me.

enn and Kumi

On Dec 22, 2021, at 7:43 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

Hello Jenn,

The problem I and others have occurres when you play tracks in an album 
sequentially.  So the gap is only present when track two follows on from the 
end of track one  as it would when listening to the album in its intirety..  If 
you’ve time, start the album playing at track one, then when that track ends 
and track two begins you may hear the hiccup as present in the file I attached 
to an earlier message.

Thanks for the trouble you have gone to and your offer of further help, it’s 
much appreciated.

Malcolm Parfitt

On 22 Dec 2021, at 14:31, Jennie Facer  wrote:

Hi Malcolm,

I clicked on the link you gave here, and pressed play and i did not hear the 
pauses while track 2 played. I am also using a 12 pro max. I was just playing 
it with the screen unlocked. Is there anything else I can try for you?

Thanks,

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

On Dec 21, 2021, at 3:49 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

Hello,

Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.

This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums on.

If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.

If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and so-on 
play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  So when say 
track one ends and track two has started there is this pause in playback.

One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050

I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I have 
tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  If I play 
the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.

Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
experience the pause I describe when track two begins?

Thank you in 

Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

[Jennie Facer]

I am using a 12 pro max with 15.3. Hopefully they are working on the issue now.

Jenn and Kumi

> On Dec 23, 2021, at 6:01 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hello Jenn,
> 
> Thanks for the confirmation. May I ask what iPhone and version of iOS you’re 
> using please?
> 
> I have tried everything I can think of to resolve this issue and establish a 
> cause.
> 
> I have signed out of iCloud and back in, reset the device and erased all 
> content and settings, set it up as a new device and put it in Recovery Mode 
> and updated via iTunes but the problem remains.
> 
> I have an iPhone 12 Pro Max and am in the UK but I don’t think it is is not a 
> geographical problem.
> 
> I cannot attribute the problem to the bit rate of the tracks as these vary 
> between albums and have no apparent effect on the playback of tracks. Some 
> tracks exhibit the problem while others do not. Even downloading the tracks 
> to the iPhone does not change the outcome so presumably it’s not a network 
> issue.
> 
> I could compile a list of albums that play as they should and those that do 
> not, but I don’t think that would help.
> 
> The strange thing is that if I double-tap any track they play fine. It is 
> only when one track follows another the problem is apparent.
> Another album which is an older recording that is problematical is:
> 
> https://music.apple.com/gb/album/mascagni-cavalleria-rusticana-leoncavallo-i-pagliacci/691492718
> 
> As this protracted issue may be of little or no interest to other list 
> members I will close by thanking you all for your thoughts and efforts to 
> help me track down this issue.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>>> On 23 Dec 2021, at 04:15, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>>> 
>> That is exactly what i did. I played a song that said something like “Do I 
>> Have It In Me,” then I let it play into the next track without pausing or 
>> touching the phone. What you mentioned did not happen to me.
>> 
>> enn and Kumi
>> 
 On Dec 22, 2021, at 7:43 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
 wrote:
 
>>> Hello Jenn,
>>> 
>>> The problem I and others have occurres when you play tracks in an album 
>>> sequentially.  So the gap is only present when track two follows on from 
>>> the end of track one  as it would when listening to the album in its 
>>> intirety..  If you’ve time, start the album playing at track one, then when 
>>> that track ends and track two begins you may hear the hiccup as present in 
>>> the file I attached to an earlier message.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the trouble you have gone to and your offer of further help, 
>>> it’s much appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>> 
> On 22 Dec 2021, at 14:31, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
 Hi Malcolm,
 
 I clicked on the link you gave here, and pressed play and i did not hear 
 the pauses while track 2 played. I am also using a 12 pro max. I was just 
 playing it with the screen unlocked. Is there anything else I can try for 
 you?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jenn
 
 Jenn and Kumi
 
>> On Dec 21, 2021, at 3:49 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>> wrote:
>> 
> Hello,
> 
> Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing 
> many albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
> 
> This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums 
> on.
> 
> If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.
> 
> If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and 
> so-on play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  
> So when say track one ends and track two has started there is this pause 
> in playback.
> 
> One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.
> 
> https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050
> 
> I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I 
> have tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  
> If I play the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.
> 
> Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
> experience the pause I describe when track two begins?
> 
> Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

[Arnold Schmidt]

Have you contacted Apple? I have been a bit busy since suggesting one of us 
contact them, but I will if this persists. 

Arnold Schmidt 


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On Dec 23, 2021, at 8:01 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

Hello Jenn,

Thanks for the confirmation. May I ask what iPhone and version of iOS you’re 
using please?

I have tried everything I can think of to resolve this issue and establish a 
cause.

I have signed out of iCloud and back in, reset the device and erased all 
content and settings, set it up as a new device and put it in Recovery Mode and 
updated via iTunes but the problem remains.

I have an iPhone 12 Pro Max and am in the UK but I don’t think it is is not a 
geographical problem.

I cannot attribute the problem to the bit rate of the tracks as these vary 
between albums and have no apparent effect on the playback of tracks. Some 
tracks exhibit the problem while others do not. Even downloading the tracks to 
the iPhone does not change the outcome so presumably it’s not a network issue.

I could compile a list of albums that play as they should and those that do 
not, but I don’t think that would help.

The strange thing is that if I double-tap any track they play fine. It is only 
when one track follows another the problem is apparent.
Another album which is an older recording that is problematical is:

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/mascagni-cavalleria-rusticana-leoncavallo-i-pagliacci/691492718

As this protracted issue may be of little or no interest to other list members 
I will close by thanking you all for your thoughts and efforts to help me track 
down this issue.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 23 Dec 2021, at 04:15, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> That is exactly what i did. I played a song that said something like “Do I 
> Have It In Me,” then I let it play into the next track without pausing or 
> touching the phone. What you mentioned did not happen to me.
> 
> enn and Kumi
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2021, at 7:43 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Jenn,
>> 
>> The problem I and others have occurres when you play tracks in an album 
>> sequentially.  So the gap is only present when track two follows on from the 
>> end of track one  as it would when listening to the album in its intirety..  
>> If you’ve time, start the album playing at track one, then when that track 
>> ends and track two begins you may hear the hiccup as present in the file I 
>> attached to an earlier message.
>> 
>> Thanks for the trouble you have gone to and your offer of further help, it’s 
>> much appreciated.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
>>> On 22 Dec 2021, at 14:31, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Malcolm,
>>> 
>>> I clicked on the link you gave here, and pressed play and i did not hear 
>>> the pauses while track 2 played. I am also using a 12 pro max. I was just 
>>> playing it with the screen unlocked. Is there anything else I can try for 
>>> you?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> 
>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>> 
 On Dec 21, 2021, at 3:49 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
 albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
 
 This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums 
 on.
 
 If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.
 
 If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and 
 so-on play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  
 So when say track one ends and track two has started there is this pause 
 in playback.
 
 One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.
 
 https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050
 
 I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I 
 have tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  
 If I play the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.
 
 Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
 experience the pause I describe when track two begins?
 
 Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.
 
 Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

[doug parisian]

Malcolm, I have been experience the problems as you describe for at 
least a month. I have an Iphone XR with IO 15.2. The only thing I 
haven't tried yet is scratching behind my left ear with my right hind leg.



On 2021-12-23 7:01 p.m., Malcolm Parfitt wrote:

Hello Jenn,

Thanks for the confirmation. May I ask what iPhone and version of iOS 
you’re using please?


I have tried everything I can think of to resolve this issue and 
establish a cause.


I have signed out of iCloud and back in, reset the device and erased 
all content and settings, set it up as a new device and put it in 
Recovery Mode and updated via iTunes but the problem remains.


I have an iPhone 12 Pro Max and am in the UK but I don’t think it is 
is not a geographical problem.


I cannot attribute the problem to the bit rate of the tracks as these 
vary between albums and have no apparent effect on the playback of 
tracks. Some tracks exhibit the problem while others do not. Even 
downloading the tracks to the iPhone does not change the outcome so 
presumably it’s not a network issue.


I could compile a list of albums that play as they should and those 
that do not, but I don’t think that would help.


The strange thing is that if I double-tap any track they play fine. It 
is only when one track follows another the problem is apparent.

Another album which is an older recording that is problematical is:

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/mascagni-cavalleria-rusticana-leoncavallo-i-pagliacci/691492718

As this protracted issue may be of little or no interest to other list 
members I will close by thanking you all for your thoughts and efforts 
to help me track down this issue.


Malcolm Parfitt


On 23 Dec 2021, at 04:15, Jennie Facer  wrote:

 That is exactly what i did. I played a song that said something 
like “Do I Have It In Me,” then I let it play into the next track 
without pausing or touching the phone. What you mentioned did not 
happen to me.


enn and Kumi

On Dec 22, 2021, at 7:43 AM, Malcolm Parfitt 
 wrote:


 Hello Jenn,

The problem I and others have occurres when you play tracks in an 
album sequentially.  So the gap is only present when track two 
follows on from the end of track one  as it would when listening to 
the album in its intirety..  If you’ve time, start the album playing 
at track one, then when that track ends and track two begins you may 
hear the hiccup as present in the file I attached to an earlier message.


Thanks for the trouble you have gone to and your offer of further 
help, it’s much appreciated.


Malcolm Parfitt


On 22 Dec 2021, at 14:31, Jennie Facer  wrote:

 Hi Malcolm,

I clicked on the link you gave here, and pressed play and i did not 
hear the pauses while track 2 played. I am also using a 12 pro max. 
I was just playing it with the screen unlocked. Is there anything 
else I can try for you?


Thanks,

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

On Dec 21, 2021, at 3:49 AM, Malcolm Parfitt 
 wrote:


 Hello,

Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when 
playing many albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.


This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the 
albums on.


If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.

If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, 
three, and so-on play there is a noticeable pause in playback when 
a track begins.  So when say track one ends and track two has 
started there is this pause in playback.


One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050

I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without 
success.  I have tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the 
problem persists.  If I play the album via iTunes on my PC it 
plays without issue.


Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if 
they experience the pause I describe when track two begins?


Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.

Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello Jenn,

Thanks for the confirmation. May I ask what iPhone and version of iOS you’re 
using please?

I have tried everything I can think of to resolve this issue and establish a 
cause.

I have signed out of iCloud and back in, reset the device and erased all 
content and settings, set it up as a new device and put it in Recovery Mode and 
updated via iTunes but the problem remains.

I have an iPhone 12 Pro Max and am in the UK but I don’t think it is is not a 
geographical problem.

I cannot attribute the problem to the bit rate of the tracks as these vary 
between albums and have no apparent effect on the playback of tracks. Some 
tracks exhibit the problem while others do not. Even downloading the tracks to 
the iPhone does not change the outcome so presumably it’s not a network issue.

I could compile a list of albums that play as they should and those that do 
not, but I don’t think that would help.

The strange thing is that if I double-tap any track they play fine. It is only 
when one track follows another the problem is apparent.
Another album which is an older recording that is problematical is:

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/mascagni-cavalleria-rusticana-leoncavallo-i-pagliacci/691492718

As this protracted issue may be of little or no interest to other list members 
I will close by thanking you all for your thoughts and efforts to help me track 
down this issue.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 23 Dec 2021, at 04:15, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> That is exactly what i did. I played a song that said something like “Do I 
> Have It In Me,” then I let it play into the next track without pausing or 
> touching the phone. What you mentioned did not happen to me.
> 
> enn and Kumi
> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2021, at 7:43 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> Hello Jenn,
>> 
>> The problem I and others have occurres when you play tracks in an album 
>> sequentially.  So the gap is only present when track two follows on from the 
>> end of track one  as it would when listening to the album in its intirety..  
>> If you’ve time, start the album playing at track one, then when that track 
>> ends and track two begins you may hear the hiccup as present in the file I 
>> attached to an earlier message.
>> 
>> Thanks for the trouble you have gone to and your offer of further help, it’s 
>> much appreciated.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
 On 22 Dec 2021, at 14:31, Jennie Facer  wrote:
 
>>> Hi Malcolm,
>>> 
>>> I clicked on the link you gave here, and pressed play and i did not hear 
>>> the pauses while track 2 played. I am also using a 12 pro max. I was just 
>>> playing it with the screen unlocked. Is there anything else I can try for 
>>> you?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> 
>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>> 
> On Dec 21, 2021, at 3:49 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
> wrote:
> 
 Hello,
 
 Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
 albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
 
 This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums 
 on.
 
 If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.
 
 If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and 
 so-on play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  
 So when say track one ends and track two has started there is this pause 
 in playback.
 
 One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.
 
 https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050
 
 I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I 
 have tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  
 If I play the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.
 
 Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
 experience the pause I describe when track two begins?
 
 Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.
 
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Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

[Jennie Facer]

That is exactly what i did. I played a song that said something like “Do I Have 
It In Me,” then I let it play into the next track without pausing or touching 
the phone. What you mentioned did not happen to me.

enn and Kumi

> On Dec 22, 2021, at 7:43 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hello Jenn,
> 
> The problem I and others have occurres when you play tracks in an album 
> sequentially.  So the gap is only present when track two follows on from the 
> end of track one  as it would when listening to the album in its intirety..  
> If you’ve time, start the album playing at track one, then when that track 
> ends and track two begins you may hear the hiccup as present in the file I 
> attached to an earlier message.
> 
> Thanks for the trouble you have gone to and your offer of further help, it’s 
> much appreciated.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>>> On 22 Dec 2021, at 14:31, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi Malcolm,
>> 
>> I clicked on the link you gave here, and pressed play and i did not hear the 
>> pauses while track 2 played. I am also using a 12 pro max. I was just 
>> playing it with the screen unlocked. Is there anything else I can try for 
>> you?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
 On Dec 21, 2021, at 3:49 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
 wrote:
 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
>>> albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
>>> 
>>> This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums on.
>>> 
>>> If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.
>>> 
>>> If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and 
>>> so-on play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  So 
>>> when say track one ends and track two has started there is this pause in 
>>> playback.
>>> 
>>> One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.
>>> 
>>> https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050
>>> 
>>> I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I 
>>> have tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  If 
>>> I play the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.
>>> 
>>> Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
>>> experience the pause I describe when track two begins?
>>> 
>>> Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.
>>> 
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello Jenn,

The problem I and others have occurres when you play tracks in an album 
sequentially.  So the gap is only present when track two follows on from the 
end of track one  as it would when listening to the album in its intirety..  If 
you’ve time, start the album playing at track one, then when that track ends 
and track two begins you may hear the hiccup as present in the file I attached 
to an earlier message.

Thanks for the trouble you have gone to and your offer of further help, it’s 
much appreciated.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 22 Dec 2021, at 14:31, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Hi Malcolm,
> 
> I clicked on the link you gave here, and pressed play and i did not hear the 
> pauses while track 2 played. I am also using a 12 pro max. I was just playing 
> it with the screen unlocked. Is there anything else I can try for you?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>>> On Dec 21, 2021, at 3:49 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
>> albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
>> 
>> This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums on.
>> 
>> If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.
>> 
>> If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and 
>> so-on play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  So 
>> when say track one ends and track two has started there is this pause in 
>> playback.
>> 
>> One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.
>> 
>> https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050
>> 
>> I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I 
>> have tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  If 
>> I play the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.
>> 
>> Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
>> experience the pause I describe when track two begins?
>> 
>> Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Malcolm,

I clicked on the link you gave here, and pressed play and i did not hear the 
pauses while track 2 played. I am also using a 12 pro max. I was just playing 
it with the screen unlocked. Is there anything else I can try for you?

Thanks,

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Dec 21, 2021, at 3:49 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
> albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
> 
> This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums on.
> 
> If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.
> 
> If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and 
> so-on play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  So 
> when say track one ends and track two has started there is this pause in 
> playback.
> 
> One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.
> 
> https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050
> 
> I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I have 
> tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  If I play 
> the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.
> 
> Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
> experience the pause I describe when track two begins?
> 
> Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello Simon,

It is not the pause between tracks that I am referring to, if you listen to the 
beginning of track two you should hear a slight pause after the second track 
has begun to play.  It appears that I am not alone in experiencing this problem.

I have tried disabling newer features like lossless playback and even 
downloaded albums to my iPhone to eliminate network issues but to no avail.

I cannot find a pattern for this behaviour some albums with the same 
characteristics exhibit this behaviour while others do not.

I have tried many playback devices from Bluetooth, wired connections, AirPods 
and even the iPhones internal speakers but none of Them affect the issue I 
describe.

I fully appreciate you and others may not be familiar with the album from which 
I took my sample but I think the hiccup is perfectly audible not withstanding 
that.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 22 Dec 2021, at 02:30, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey Malcolm,
>  
> I was thinking of the quality rather than pauses between tracks,
>  
> Sorry if that’s not what you tried to do,
> But I listen for quality in music and what you recorded was pretty good 
> considering what you were recording on.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2021 12:55 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.
>  
> Hi Simon,
>  
> For your information the recording was made with my Apple Watch Series7 using 
> Just Record.
>  
> I used a NAD 20-30 integrated amplifier and Heybrook5 speakers my iPhone 12 
> Pro Max was connected to the auxiliary input via an Apple charging stand with 
> a 3.5MM to two phono cable.  Those are the technical details for your 
> interest.
>  
> The point of my post which you appear to have missed is not the clarity or 
> otherwise of the recording but the pause at the start of the second track.
>  
> Having listened to the recording I would hope the most disputatious of 
> readers would understand the point I was trying to make.
>  
> I hope the above details will enable you to make a more constructive response.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
> 
> On 21 Dec 2021, at 23:00, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Malcolm
>  
> Interesting recording,
> I’m guessing the lack of clarity  would be from it coming from your sterio
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2021 12:50 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.
>  
> Here is a short recording made with my Apple Watch using Just Press Record 
> that I hope will demonstrate what I have tried to explain.
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> 
> 
> 
> On 21 Dec 2021, at 10:49, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
>  
> Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
> albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
>  
> This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums on.
>  
> If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.
>  
> If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and 
> so-on play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  So 
> when say track one ends and track two has started there is this pause in 
> playback.
>  
> One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.
>  
> https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050
>  
> I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I have 
> tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  If I play 
> the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.
>  
> Would someone try playin

RE: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hey Malcolm,

I was thinking of the quality rather than pauses between tracks,

Sorry if that’s not what you tried to do,
But I listen for quality in music and what you recorded was pretty good 
considering what you were recording on.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2021 12:55 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

Hi Simon,

For your information the recording was made with my Apple Watch Series7 using 
Just Record.

I used a NAD 20-30 integrated amplifier and Heybrook5 speakers my iPhone 12 Pro 
Max was connected to the auxiliary input via an Apple charging stand with a 
3.5MM to two phono cable.  Those are the technical details for your interest.

The point of my post which you appear to have missed is not the clarity or 
otherwise of the recording but the pause at the start of the second track.

Having listened to the recording I would hope the most disputatious of readers 
would understand the point I was trying to make.

I hope the above details will enable you to make a more constructive response.
Malcolm Parfitt


On 21 Dec 2021, at 23:00, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Malcolm

Interesting recording,
I’m guessing the lack of clarity  would be from it coming from your sterio

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2021 12:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

Here is a short recording made with my Apple Watch using Just Press Record that 
I hope will demonstrate what I have tried to explain.
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mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>> wrote:
Hello,

Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.

This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums on.

If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.

If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and so-on 
play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  So when say 
track one ends and track two has started there is this pause in playback.

One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050

I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I have 
tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  If I play 
the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.

Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
experience the pause I describe when track two begins?

Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.
Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

[Arnold Schmidt]

I have been, as it were, living with it for maybe a couple weeks now, figuring 
that Apple had to know about it and would fix it soon. As you say, it is 
inconsistent. I was playing an album earlier today and it didn't do it. Hey, 
maybe they have finally fixed it. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Dec 21, 2021, at 7:08 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

Thank you Arnold I was not aware the issue occurred that far back but at least 
I am not alone.

I have been unable to establish a pattern with this problem, it does not appear 
with all albums and no matter what settings I apply in the Music App or whether 
music is stored on the device or streamed the issue persists.

If you hear or discover anything about this issue I would be grateful if you 
would let us know.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 22 Dec 2021, at 00:01, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> I would like to report that this also occurs with 14.8, which I am still 
> running on this S E 2. One of us needs to call Apple to see what they say. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
> 
> On Dec 21, 2021, at 5:49 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
> albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
> 
> This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums on.
> 
> If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.
> 
> If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and 
> so-on play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  So 
> when say track one ends and track two has started there is this pause in 
> playback.
> 
> One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.
> 
> https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050
> 
> I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I have 
> tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  If I play 
> the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.
> 
> Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
> experience the pause I describe when track two begins?
> 
> Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Thank you Arnold I was not aware the issue occurred that far back but at least 
I am not alone.

I have been unable to establish a pattern with this problem, it does not appear 
with all albums and no matter what settings I apply in the Music App or whether 
music is stored on the device or streamed the issue persists.

If you hear or discover anything about this issue I would be grateful if you 
would let us know.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 22 Dec 2021, at 00:01, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> I would like to report that this also occurs with 14.8, which I am still 
> running on this S E 2. One of us needs to call Apple to see what they say. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
> 
> On Dec 21, 2021, at 5:49 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
> albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
> 
> This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums on.
> 
> If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.
> 
> If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and 
> so-on play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  So 
> when say track one ends and track two has started there is this pause in 
> playback.
> 
> One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.
> 
> https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050
> 
> I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I have 
> tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  If I play 
> the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.
> 
> Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
> experience the pause I describe when track two begins?
> 
> Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

[Arnold Schmidt]

I would like to report that this also occurs with 14.8, which I am still 
running on this S E 2. One of us needs to call Apple to see what they say. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Dec 21, 2021, at 5:49 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

Hello,

Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.

This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums on.

If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.

If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and so-on 
play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  So when say 
track one ends and track two has started there is this pause in playback.

One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050

I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I have 
tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  If I play 
the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.

Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
experience the pause I describe when track two begins?

Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.

Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hi Simon,

For your information the recording was made with my Apple Watch Series7 using 
Just Record.

I used a NAD 20-30 integrated amplifier and Heybrook5 speakers my iPhone 12 Pro 
Max was connected to the auxiliary input via an Apple charging stand with a 
3.5MM to two phono cable.  Those are the technical details for your interest.

The point of my post which you appear to have missed is not the clarity or 
otherwise of the recording but the pause at the start of the second track.

Having listened to the recording I would hope the most disputatious of readers 
would understand the point I was trying to make.

I hope the above details will enable you to make a more constructive response.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 21 Dec 2021, at 23:00, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> 
> Hi Malcolm
>  
> Interesting recording,
> I’m guessing the lack of clarity  would be from it coming from your sterio
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2021 12:50 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.
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> Here is a short recording made with my Apple Watch using Just Press Record 
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> 
> On 21 Dec 2021, at 10:49, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
>  
> Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
> albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
>  
> This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums on.
>  
> If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.
>  
> If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and 
> so-on play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  So 
> when say track one ends and track two has started there is this pause in 
> playback.
>  
> One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.
>  
> https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050
>  
> I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I have 
> tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  If I play 
> the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.
>  
> Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
> experience the pause I describe when track two begins?
>  
> Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.
> 
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RE: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Malcolm

Interesting recording,
I’m guessing the lack of clarity  would be from it coming from your sterio

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2021 12:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

Here is a short recording made with my Apple Watch using Just Press Record that 
I hope will demonstrate what I have tried to explain.
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On 21 Dec 2021, at 10:49, Malcolm Parfitt 
mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>> wrote:
Hello,

Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.

This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums on.

If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.

If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and so-on 
play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  So when say 
track one ends and track two has started there is this pause in playback.

One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050

I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I have 
tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  If I play 
the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.

Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
experience the pause I describe when track two begins?

Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.
Malcolm Parfitt
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Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,

Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.

This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums on.

If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.

If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and so-on 
play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  So when say 
track one ends and track two has started there is this pause in playback.

One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050

I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I have 
tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  If I play 
the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.

Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
experience the pause I describe when track two begins?

Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.

Malcolm Parfitt

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RE: Apple Music issue?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

My suggestion would be to call Apple.

-Original Message-
From: 'Kliph' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2020 12:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Music issue?

Ok, signed up for the apple1 premium plan on my iPad.  When I got  to my phone, 
that is signed into the same Apple ID, it shows me the right amount of cloud 
storage, I am able to access my apple news plus, but when I go to music, its 
trying to make me pay and sign up.  I have killed all apps in the app switcher. 
I have restarted the phone, even signed out of iCloud and back in again.  Still 
the same, trying to make me sign up and pay.  Any suggestions?
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Apple Music issue?

['Kliph' via VIPhone]

Ok, signed up for the apple1 premium plan on my iPad.  When I got  to my phone, 
that is signed into the same Apple ID, it shows me the right amount of cloud 
storage, I am able to access my apple news plus, but when I go to music, its 
trying to make me pay and sign up.  I have killed all apps in the app switcher. 
I have restarted the phone, even signed out of iCloud and back in again.  Still 
the same, trying to make me sign up and pay.  Any suggestions?
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RE: Annoying apple music issue

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Mark
Just for interest sake. I tried to purchase an album from Amazon which I could 
not find in Apple Music but the only way to pay which they offer, is via USD, 
so they do not accept my SA credit card info. I can buy Kindle books and 
Audible books with my SA credit card and in January I purchased a radio without 
any problems. I suppose it is a music copyright thing.
Regards
Fanus


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M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 4:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Annoying apple music issue

Hello Fanus,

A subscription is not required to purchase either individual songs or entire 
albums from Amazon.com

I find that the prices of individual titles are identical to iTunes.  Album 
prices are usually comparable, also.  

To be clear, I download my music via Internet Explorer version 11, on a Windows 
7 32-bit PC.

I think Amazon offers some kind of desktop music download app but I found it 
extremely difficult to use with Jaws; however, this was some years ago and the 
desktop app may have improved since then.  

When it is all said and done, while I purchase all of my music from Amazon.com, 
I manage that content in iTunes for Windows.

Mark 

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Fanus Buys
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 1:37 AM
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Subject: RE: Annoying apple music issue

Hello Mark
Wow, Thanks for this. Can one just go to amazon and search for the album or 
does one have to be subscribed to their music service before one can make 
purchases? How do their prices compare with that of apple?
Regards
Fanus


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Annoying apple music issue

Hello Richard, Fanus, and Everyone,

Richard, I love your phrase, “tagging hell.”  That is exactly how I view the 
purchasing of iTunes music.

Earlier today, I decided to buy a new album.  For less than a nanno-second I 
considered purchasing it from iTunes, then I remembered all of the problems I 
have encountered, en the past, after having done so; some that you described 
very eloquently, Richard, and some even more daunting issues, that continue to 
occur, with those long ago purchased tracks.

I only purchase music from Amazon, via my web browser, on my Windows PC.  

The process is simple, straight-forward, and fast.  

For example, when purchasing an album on my PC, the broad strokes are:

1.
Go to Amazon.com and find the album.  Select the album to display the various 
formats, MP3, CD, Vinyl, etc.   Along with each format, you will see the 
purchase price.

2.
Select your format.  

3.
Purchase the Album.

4.
Select Download purchase.  The album will be downloaded to your PC in a Zip 
file.

5.
Unzip the file and you will see all of the album titles.

Now here is what I do to get my newly purchased album into iTunes; again the 
broad strokes, only.

6.
Open iTunes for Windows.

7.
Add all of the album titles to my iTunes Library, simultaneously.

8.
Select all of the newly purchased album titles and select New Playlist.

9.
Give the Playlist the same name of the Album.

10.
Sync the new playlist to my iOS device.

Again, just the broad strokes but, all things being equal, given that I’ve been 
using this method for about 7 years or so, it takes me less than 15 minutes to 
go from purchase to syncing songs to my iOS device.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 5:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Annoying apple music issue

Welcome to the tagging hell that is classical music, as well as others, but 
classical is the worst. 
Since the internal tags of classical music often has different artists on some 
tracks, or different conductors, orchestras, etc., it gets crazy making.
But, look for a folder called Compilations.
Most of the time, these albums are marked as compilations so they will show up 
by either the album name, or conductor.
The tracks will also be scattered into different subfolders, but at least in 
the compilations folder they should be all together.

Richard
Qwawntine, qwawantine, is wot dwives us to dwinking, today.
Sent from the iPhone SE 2020


On Apr 27, 2020, at 5:38 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
Hello list
Even though I am subscribed to apple music I sometimes buy albums via itunes on 
my pc. Especially when it comes to classical music itunes saves the albums in 
the stranges places in the itunes music folder, sometimes under the album name, 
sometimes under the composer, sometimes even under the name of one of the 
artists. This also happens when I download music on my iPod in the music app. 
This morning I purchased an opera via iTunes

RE: Annoying apple music issue

[M. Taylor]

Hello Fanus,

A subscription is not required to purchase either individual songs or entire 
albums from Amazon.com

I find that the prices of individual titles are identical to iTunes.  Album 
prices are usually comparable, also.  

To be clear, I download my music via Internet Explorer version 11, on a Windows 
7 32-bit PC.

I think Amazon offers some kind of desktop music download app but I found it 
extremely difficult to use with Jaws; however, this was some years ago and the 
desktop app may have improved since then.  

When it is all said and done, while I purchase all of my music from Amazon.com, 
I manage that content in iTunes for Windows.

Mark 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Fanus Buys
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 1:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Annoying apple music issue

Hello Mark
Wow, Thanks for this. Can one just go to amazon and search for the album or 
does one have to be subscribed to their music service before one can make 
purchases? How do their prices compare with that of apple?
Regards
Fanus


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Annoying apple music issue

Hello Richard, Fanus, and Everyone,

Richard, I love your phrase, “tagging hell.”  That is exactly how I view the 
purchasing of iTunes music.

Earlier today, I decided to buy a new album.  For less than a nanno-second I 
considered purchasing it from iTunes, then I remembered all of the problems I 
have encountered, en the past, after having done so; some that you described 
very eloquently, Richard, and some even more daunting issues, that continue to 
occur, with those long ago purchased tracks.

I only purchase music from Amazon, via my web browser, on my Windows PC.  

The process is simple, straight-forward, and fast.  

For example, when purchasing an album on my PC, the broad strokes are:

1.
Go to Amazon.com and find the album.  Select the album to display the various 
formats, MP3, CD, Vinyl, etc.   Along with each format, you will see the 
purchase price.

2.
Select your format.  

3.
Purchase the Album.

4.
Select Download purchase.  The album will be downloaded to your PC in a Zip 
file.

5.
Unzip the file and you will see all of the album titles.

Now here is what I do to get my newly purchased album into iTunes; again the 
broad strokes, only.

6.
Open iTunes for Windows.

7.
Add all of the album titles to my iTunes Library, simultaneously.

8.
Select all of the newly purchased album titles and select New Playlist.

9.
Give the Playlist the same name of the Album.

10.
Sync the new playlist to my iOS device.

Again, just the broad strokes but, all things being equal, given that I’ve been 
using this method for about 7 years or so, it takes me less than 15 minutes to 
go from purchase to syncing songs to my iOS device.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 5:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Annoying apple music issue

Welcome to the tagging hell that is classical music, as well as others, but 
classical is the worst. 
Since the internal tags of classical music often has different artists on some 
tracks, or different conductors, orchestras, etc., it gets crazy making.
But, look for a folder called Compilations.
Most of the time, these albums are marked as compilations so they will show up 
by either the album name, or conductor.
The tracks will also be scattered into different subfolders, but at least in 
the compilations folder they should be all together.

Richard
Qwawntine, qwawantine, is wot dwives us to dwinking, today.
Sent from the iPhone SE 2020


On Apr 27, 2020, at 5:38 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
Hello list
Even though I am subscribed to apple music I sometimes buy albums via itunes on 
my pc. Especially when it comes to classical music itunes saves the albums in 
the stranges places in the itunes music folder, sometimes under the album name, 
sometimes under the composer, sometimes even under the name of one of the 
artists. This also happens when I download music on my iPod in the music app. 
This morning I purchased an opera via iTunes and now I can not find where 
itunes stored it. A search in Windows 10 does not show any results. Does anyone 
know how I can trace the album?
Regards
Fanus


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Re: Annoying apple music issue

[Dave]

You don't have to be subscribed, to any amazon music service.

You just make the purchase, as you would, with anything else.

Just in case you are stil using internet explorer. It is no longer 
supported, with amazon music downloads.


Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Fanus Buys

Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Annoying apple music issue

Hello Mark
Wow, Thanks for this. Can one just go to amazon and search for the album or 
does one have to be subscribed to their music service before one can make 
purchases? How do their prices compare with that of apple?

Regards
Fanus


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of M. Taylor

Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Annoying apple music issue

Hello Richard, Fanus, and Everyone,

Richard, I love your phrase, “tagging hell.”  That is exactly how I view the 
purchasing of iTunes music.


Earlier today, I decided to buy a new album.  For less than a nanno-second I 
considered purchasing it from iTunes, then I remembered all of the problems 
I have encountered, en the past, after having done so; some that you 
described very eloquently, Richard, and some even more daunting issues, that 
continue to occur, with those long ago purchased tracks.


I only purchase music from Amazon, via my web browser, on my Windows PC.

The process is simple, straight-forward, and fast.

For example, when purchasing an album on my PC, the broad strokes are:

1.
Go to Amazon.com and find the album.  Select the album to display the 
various formats, MP3, CD, Vinyl, etc.   Along with each format, you will see 
the purchase price.


2.
Select your format.

3.
Purchase the Album.

4.
Select Download purchase.  The album will be downloaded to your PC in a Zip 
file.


5.
Unzip the file and you will see all of the album titles.

Now here is what I do to get my newly purchased album into iTunes; again the 
broad strokes, only.


6.
Open iTunes for Windows.

7.
Add all of the album titles to my iTunes Library, simultaneously.

8.
Select all of the newly purchased album titles and select New Playlist.

9.
Give the Playlist the same name of the Album.

10.
Sync the new playlist to my iOS device.

Again, just the broad strokes but, all things being equal, given that I’ve 
been using this method for about 7 years or so, it takes me less than 15 
minutes to go from purchase to syncing songs to my iOS device.


Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner

Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 5:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Annoying apple music issue

Welcome to the tagging hell that is classical music, as well as others, but 
classical is the worst.
Since the internal tags of classical music often has different artists on 
some tracks, or different conductors, orchestras, etc., it gets crazy 
making.

But, look for a folder called Compilations.
Most of the time, these albums are marked as compilations so they will show 
up by either the album name, or conductor.
The tracks will also be scattered into different subfolders, but at least in 
the compilations folder they should be all together.


Richard
Qwawntine, qwawantine, is wot dwives us to dwinking, today.
Sent from the iPhone SE 2020


On Apr 27, 2020, at 5:38 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
Hello list
Even though I am subscribed to apple music I sometimes buy albums via itunes
on my pc. Especially when it comes to classical music itunes saves the
albums in the stranges places in the itunes music folder, sometimes under
the album name, sometimes under the composer, sometimes even under the name
of one of the artists. This also happens when I download music on my iPod in
the music app. This morning I purchased an opera via iTunes and now I can
not find where itunes stored it. A search in Windows 10 does not show any
results. Does anyone know how I can trace the album?
Regards
Fanus


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Hello Mark
Wow, Thanks for this. Can one just go to amazon and search for the album or 
does one have to be subscribed to their music service before one can make 
purchases? How do their prices compare with that of apple?
Regards
Fanus


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Annoying apple music issue

Hello Richard, Fanus, and Everyone,

Richard, I love your phrase, “tagging hell.”  That is exactly how I view the 
purchasing of iTunes music.

Earlier today, I decided to buy a new album.  For less than a nanno-second I 
considered purchasing it from iTunes, then I remembered all of the problems I 
have encountered, en the past, after having done so; some that you described 
very eloquently, Richard, and some even more daunting issues, that continue to 
occur, with those long ago purchased tracks.

I only purchase music from Amazon, via my web browser, on my Windows PC.  

The process is simple, straight-forward, and fast.  

For example, when purchasing an album on my PC, the broad strokes are:

1.
Go to Amazon.com and find the album.  Select the album to display the various 
formats, MP3, CD, Vinyl, etc.   Along with each format, you will see the 
purchase price.

2.
Select your format.  

3.
Purchase the Album.

4.
Select Download purchase.  The album will be downloaded to your PC in a Zip 
file.

5.
Unzip the file and you will see all of the album titles.

Now here is what I do to get my newly purchased album into iTunes; again the 
broad strokes, only.

6.
Open iTunes for Windows.

7.
Add all of the album titles to my iTunes Library, simultaneously.

8.
Select all of the newly purchased album titles and select New Playlist.

9.
Give the Playlist the same name of the Album.

10.
Sync the new playlist to my iOS device.

Again, just the broad strokes but, all things being equal, given that I’ve been 
using this method for about 7 years or so, it takes me less than 15 minutes to 
go from purchase to syncing songs to my iOS device.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 5:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Annoying apple music issue

Welcome to the tagging hell that is classical music, as well as others, but 
classical is the worst. 
Since the internal tags of classical music often has different artists on some 
tracks, or different conductors, orchestras, etc., it gets crazy making.
But, look for a folder called Compilations.
Most of the time, these albums are marked as compilations so they will show up 
by either the album name, or conductor.
The tracks will also be scattered into different subfolders, but at least in 
the compilations folder they should be all together.

Richard
Qwawntine, qwawantine, is wot dwives us to dwinking, today.
Sent from the iPhone SE 2020


On Apr 27, 2020, at 5:38 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
Hello list
Even though I am subscribed to apple music I sometimes buy albums via itunes
on my pc. Especially when it comes to classical music itunes saves the
albums in the stranges places in the itunes music folder, sometimes under
the album name, sometimes under the composer, sometimes even under the name
of one of the artists. This also happens when I download music on my iPod in
the music app. This morning I purchased an opera via iTunes and now I can
not find where itunes stored it. A search in Windows 10 does not show any
results. Does anyone know how I can trace the album?
Regards
Fanus


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RE: Annoying apple music issue

[M. Taylor]

Hello Richard, Fanus, and Everyone,

Richard, I love your phrase, “tagging hell.”  That is exactly how I view the 
purchasing of iTunes music.

Earlier today, I decided to buy a new album.  For less than a nanno-second I 
considered purchasing it from iTunes, then I remembered all of the problems I 
have encountered, en the past, after having done so; some that you described 
very eloquently, Richard, and some even more daunting issues, that continue to 
occur, with those long ago purchased tracks.

I only purchase music from Amazon, via my web browser, on my Windows PC.  

The process is simple, straight-forward, and fast.  

For example, when purchasing an album on my PC, the broad strokes are:

1.
Go to Amazon.com and find the album.  Select the album to display the various 
formats, MP3, CD, Vinyl, etc.   Along with each format, you will see the 
purchase price.

2.
Select your format.  

3.
Purchase the Album.

4.
Select Download purchase.  The album will be downloaded to your PC in a Zip 
file.

5.
Unzip the file and you will see all of the album titles.

Now here is what I do to get my newly purchased album into iTunes; again the 
broad strokes, only.

6.
Open iTunes for Windows.

7.
Add all of the album titles to my iTunes Library, simultaneously.

8.
Select all of the newly purchased album titles and select New Playlist.

9.
Give the Playlist the same name of the Album.

10.
Sync the new playlist to my iOS device.

Again, just the broad strokes but, all things being equal, given that I’ve been 
using this method for about 7 years or so, it takes me less than 15 minutes to 
go from purchase to syncing songs to my iOS device.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 5:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Annoying apple music issue

Welcome to the tagging hell that is classical music, as well as others, but 
classical is the worst. 
Since the internal tags of classical music often has different artists on some 
tracks, or different conductors, orchestras, etc., it gets crazy making.
But, look for a folder called Compilations.
Most of the time, these albums are marked as compilations so they will show up 
by either the album name, or conductor.
The tracks will also be scattered into different subfolders, but at least in 
the compilations folder they should be all together.

Richard
Qwawntine, qwawantine, is wot dwives us to dwinking, today.
Sent from the iPhone SE 2020


On Apr 27, 2020, at 5:38 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
Hello list
Even though I am subscribed to apple music I sometimes buy albums via itunes
on my pc. Especially when it comes to classical music itunes saves the
albums in the stranges places in the itunes music folder, sometimes under
the album name, sometimes under the composer, sometimes even under the name
of one of the artists. This also happens when I download music on my iPod in
the music app. This morning I purchased an opera via iTunes and now I can
not find where itunes stored it. A search in Windows 10 does not show any
results. Does anyone know how I can trace the album?
Regards
Fanus


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Re: Annoying apple music issue

[Richard Turner]

Welcome to the tagging hell that is classical music, as well as others, but 
classical is the worst.
Since the internal tags of classical music often has different artists on some 
tracks, or different conductors, orchestras, etc., it gets crazy making.
But, look for a folder called Compilations.
Most of the time, these albums are marked as compilations so they will show up 
by either the album name, or conductor.
The tracks will also be scattered into different subfolders, but at least in 
the compilations folder they should be all together.


Richard
Qwawntine, qwawantine, is wot dwives us to dwinking, today.
Sent from the iPhone SE 2020

On Apr 27, 2020, at 5:38 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

Hello list
Even though I am subscribed to apple music I sometimes buy albums via itunes
on my pc. Especially when it comes to classical music itunes saves the
albums in the stranges places in the itunes music folder, sometimes under
the album name, sometimes under the composer, sometimes even under the name
of one of the artists. This also happens when I download music on my iPod in
the music app. This morning I purchased an opera via iTunes and now I can
not find where itunes stored it. A search in Windows 10 does not show any
results. Does anyone know how I can trace the album?
Regards
Fanus


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[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
Even though I am subscribed to apple music I sometimes buy albums via itunes
on my pc. Especially when it comes to classical music itunes saves the
albums in the stranges places in the itunes music folder, sometimes under
the album name, sometimes under the composer, sometimes even under the name
of one of the artists. This also happens when I download music on my iPod in
the music app. This morning I purchased an opera via iTunes and now I can
not find where itunes stored it. A search in Windows 10 does not show any
results. Does anyone know how I can trace the album?
Regards
Fanus


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Horrible music issue on iPhone 4s with iOS 7

[Shane clark]

Hello everyone, I've seen where a lot of people seem to be having this issue 
since the new update with deleting songs in albums and the native music app. 
What I am experiencing is this: it seems that certain songs that I did not 
purchase from iTunes appear on my phone fine, and then other songs, will have 
right beside them cancel download 100% button… I've never seen this before, so 
I have no idea what is going on here… Other songs that I have purchased from 
iTunes are showing up, and VO is saying the song title, and download button 
beside it. My brother-in-law told me that on the screen there is a picture of a 
cloud beside that particular song, however, I don't want to download any of 
these songs, but apparently whether I choose to do this or not, when I double 
tap on that song with the cloud beside it, it begins playing. So, does this 
mean that I have the option to download it to my device, and if I choose not 
to, when I double tap on it, when it begins playing, is it just streaming the 
song from the cloud, and therefore it's not taking space on my device? Is there 
a way that I can get rid of these songs completely including the titles of them 
showing up in my music app? I can honestly say I don't like this new feature of 
iOS, however, if any of you know any work arounds on what to do, I certainly 
would appreciate any and all assistance with this.
I've even went to iTunes and App Store, and turned off show all music, but that 
doesn't seem to help either. 
Thanks, Shane.

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