Fw: unhiding pages

[Robert Doc Wright]

- Original Message - 
From: Robert Doc Wright
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 6, 2023 4:55 AM
Subject: Fw: unhiding pages




Imagine my surprise when my home screen went from three pages to two. I 
rebooted, went to app library, scratched my head... finally called Apple 
accessibility. After sharing the screen we learned that the page was hidden. 
Below are the steps we took to unhide the page:

Unhiding pages on iPhone

Double tap and hold on the page picker item
double tap and hold again to show hidden pages
double tap the page you wish to be visible.

*
When we finally give Yeshua/Jesus full control then we have taken that first 
step toward perfection!

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Fw: unhiding pages

[Robert Doc Wright]

Imagine my surprise when my home screen went from three pages to two. I 
rebooted, went to app library, scratched my head... finally called Apple 
accessibility. After sharing the screen we learned that the page was hidden. 
Below are the steps we took to unhide the page:

Unhiding pages on iPhone

Double tap and hold on the page picker item
double tap and hold again to show hidden pages
double tap the page you wish to be visible.

*
When we finally give Yeshua/Jesus full control then we have taken that first 
step toward perfection!

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http://familytimes.wrighthere.net:9244/stream

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unhiding pages

[Robert Doc Wright]

Imagine my surprise when my home screen went from three pages to two. I 
rebooted, went to app library, scratched my head... finally called Apple 
accessibility. After sharing the screen we learned that the page was hidden. 
Below are the steps we took to unhide the page:

Unhiding pages on iPhone

Double tap and hold on the page picker item
double tap and hold again to show hidden pages
double tap the page you wish to be visible.

*
When we finally give Yeshua/Jesus full control then we have taken that first 
step toward perfection!

__
Family times theatre
http://familytimes.wrighthere.net:9244/stream

Ask your smart speaker to play Family times on TuneIn

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RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And that is why there is Touch Id on older phones and Face Id on newer ones, it 
is still super easy to unlock your phone even with a secure 6-digit passcode 
since 9 out of 10 times or better you can unlock with finger print or Face Id 
and you only have to type in the passcode from time to time.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 10:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

Four digits is enough for me.  I don't have anything on my iPhone that anyone 
would want anyway.  All I've got on my iPhone is loads of audio books from 
bard.  I've got 1492 audio books from bard.  That takes up about 229 gigs of my 
iPhone 8.

On 4/28/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Your pass code should be something that makes sense to you and you 
> alone, But not your date of birth or that of someone close to you,
>
> Or at least that is what is suggested,
>
> I would also use more than 4 characters if possible.
>
> Like on my phone I use 6 characters from an id number that relates to 
> me but that I haven’t used in 20 years.
>
> It would be something someone could figure out if they new where to 
> look for the details.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, 29 April 2021 4:44 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
>
> , 1234, 11, all those are examples of passcodes where the 
> passcode is little better than no passcode at all.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
>
> Just know that if it is easy, it is easy for someone to figure out, 
> then your phone could becomes theirs.
>
>
> Richard
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>
> www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>
>
> On Apr 27, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Carolyn
> <4carol...@windstream.net<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net>> wrote:
> Passcode is the term that they use.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
>
> Thanks Richard. Great steps. I thought I’d gone through that earlier 
> but when I followed your steps exactly, it worked. It asked for my 
> passcode instead of password but entered it and it took. Again, Thanks.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 5:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
>
>
>
> The steps are:
>
> One, open settings, Touch ID and Passcode.
>
> 2.  enter your passcode.
>
> 3.  Find the button that says Turn Off passcode and double tap.
>
> 4.  You will have to confirm you want to do this on the next screen.
>
> 5.  You will be asked for your Apple ID password, enter it and 
> activate turn off passcode again.
>
> Lastly, you will have to enter your passcode again before it will 
> actually turn it off.
>
>
>
> I just did it and rebooted and it stay off.
>
>
>
> Now, I recreated it because I want the protection of a passcode.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
> but what they become by it."
>
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>
>
>
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RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It's not only about if there is anything important on the phone or not. If your 
iPhone is stolen and it is not protected with a passcode or if the passcode is 
so simple the thief can guess it then that phone can very easily be resold. If 
the phone is protected with a strong passcode it is essentially worthless 
except as a parts phone, e.g. they can sell it for a few bucks to somebody who 
will sell off the parts, but it is much less attractive for some guy to steel 
an iPhone which most likely is locked. Also, the Find my iPhone feature may be 
of use if they don't power down the iPhone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 10:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

Four digits is enough for me.  I don't have anything on my iPhone that anyone 
would want anyway.  All I've got on my iPhone is loads of audio books from 
bard.  I've got 1492 audio books from bard.  That takes up about 229 gigs of my 
iPhone 8.

On 4/28/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Your pass code should be something that makes sense to you and you 
> alone, But not your date of birth or that of someone close to you,
>
> Or at least that is what is suggested,
>
> I would also use more than 4 characters if possible.
>
> Like on my phone I use 6 characters from an id number that relates to 
> me but that I haven’t used in 20 years.
>
> It would be something someone could figure out if they new where to 
> look for the details.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, 29 April 2021 4:44 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
>
> , 1234, 11, all those are examples of passcodes where the 
> passcode is little better than no passcode at all.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
>
> Just know that if it is easy, it is easy for someone to figure out, 
> then your phone could becomes theirs.
>
>
> Richard
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>
> www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>
>
> On Apr 27, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Carolyn
> <4carol...@windstream.net<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net>> wrote:
> Passcode is the term that they use.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
>
> Thanks Richard. Great steps. I thought I’d gone through that earlier 
> but when I followed your steps exactly, it worked. It asked for my 
> passcode instead of password but entered it and it took. Again, Thanks.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 5:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
>
>
>
> The steps are:
>
> One, open settings, Touch ID and Passcode.
>
> 2.  enter your passcode.
>
> 3.  Find the button that says Turn Off passcode and double tap.
>
> 4.  You will have to confirm you want to do this on the next screen.
>
> 5.  You will be asked for your Apple ID password, enter it and 
> activate turn off passcode again.
>
> Lastly, you will have to enter your passcode again before it will 
> actually turn it off.
>
>
>
> I just did it and rebooted and it stay off.
>
>
>
> Now, I recreated it because I want the protection of a passcode.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
> but what they become by it."
>
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>
>
>
> Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
> rner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf445c6ee6ea34369944308d909cd0233%7
> C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637551598366991622%7CUnkno
> wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL
> CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=%2F4w3vb0k44Y%2Byg4VZHjuXx2kz5iWCa9fFxW
> pWWDl7FM%3D

Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Four digits is enough for me.  I don't have anything on my iPhone that
anyone would want anyway.  All I've got on my iPhone is loads of audio
books from bard.  I've got 1492 audio books from bard.  That takes up
about 229 gigs of my iPhone 8.

On 4/28/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Your pass code should be something that makes sense to you and you alone,
> But not your date of birth or that of someone close to you,
>
> Or at least that is what is suggested,
>
> I would also use more than 4 characters if possible.
>
> Like on my phone I use 6 characters from an id number that relates to me but
> that I haven’t used in 20 years.
>
> It would be something someone could figure out if they new where to look for
> the details.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, 29 April 2021 4:44 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
>
> , 1234, 11, all those are examples of passcodes where the passcode
> is little better than no passcode at all.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
>
> Just know that if it is easy, it is easy for someone to figure out, then
> your phone could becomes theirs.
>
>
> Richard
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds
> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>
> www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>
>
> On Apr 27, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Carolyn
> <4carol...@windstream.net<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net>> wrote:
> Passcode is the term that they use.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
>
> Thanks Richard. Great steps. I thought I’d gone through that earlier but
> when I followed your steps exactly, it worked. It asked for my passcode
> instead of password but entered it and it took. Again, Thanks.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 5:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
>
>
>
> The steps are:
>
> One, open settings, Touch ID and Passcode.
>
> 2.  enter your passcode.
>
> 3.  Find the button that says Turn Off passcode and double tap.
>
> 4.  You will have to confirm you want to do this on the next screen.
>
> 5.  You will be asked for your Apple ID password, enter it and activate turn
> off passcode again.
>
> Lastly, you will have to enter your passcode again before it will actually
> turn it off.
>
>
>
> I just did it and rebooted and it stay off.
>
>
>
> Now, I recreated it because I want the protection of a passcode.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but
> what they become by it."
>
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>
>
>
> Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf445c6ee6ea34369944308d909cd0233%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637551598366991622%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=%2F4w3vb0k44Y%2Byg4VZHjuXx2kz5iWCa9fFxWpWWDl7FM%3Dreserved=0
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> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>   <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%20%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>> On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
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RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Simon A Fogarty]

Your pass code should be something that makes sense to you and you alone,
But not your date of birth or that of someone close to you,

Or at least that is what is suggested,

I would also use more than 4 characters if possible.

Like on my phone I use 6 characters from an id number that relates to me but 
that I haven’t used in 20 years.

It would be something someone could figure out if they new where to look for 
the details.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, 29 April 2021 4:44 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

, 1234, 11, all those are examples of passcodes where the passcode is 
little better than no passcode at all.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

Just know that if it is easy, it is easy for someone to figure out, then your 
phone could becomes theirs.


Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>


On Apr 27, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net>> wrote:
Passcode is the term that they use.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

Thanks Richard. Great steps. I thought I’d gone through that earlier but when I 
followed your steps exactly, it worked. It asked for my passcode instead of 
password but entered it and it took. Again, Thanks.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages



The steps are:

One, open settings, Touch ID and Passcode.

2.  enter your passcode.

3.  Find the button that says Turn Off passcode and double tap.

4.  You will have to confirm you want to do this on the next screen.

5.  You will be asked for your Apple ID password, enter it and activate turn 
off passcode again.

Lastly, you will have to enter your passcode again before it will actually turn 
it off.



I just did it and rebooted and it stay off.



Now, I recreated it because I want the protection of a passcode.







Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900



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<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%20%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 > On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages



There wasn’t such a button. Now that I’ve got it, I can’t get rid of it. I did 
find in settings what I thought was going to be a place to turn it off but when 
I restarted the phone, it required my 6-digit pass code. I’m very disappointed. 
This is going to make the phone much harder for my wife to use and learn on.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%20%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 > On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me g

RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Carolyn]

You'd have to do better for repair; they won't take them if they're too easy. 
They said my original 2580 would be too easy to break. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 3:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

You need a good strong passcode.  The only time I would make my passcode  
or something like that is if I were taking the phone for repair.  It would be a 
security risk for them to have your actual passcode.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 12:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

 

, 1234, 11, all those are examples of passcodes where the passcode is 
little better than no passcode at all.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

 

Just know that if it is easy, it is easy for someone to figure out, then your 
phone could becomes theirs. 

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com> 

 

 

On Apr 27, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:

Passcode is the term that they use. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
    Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

Thanks Richard. Great steps. I thought I’d gone through that earlier 
but when I followed your steps exactly, it worked. It asked for my passcode 
instead of password but entered it and it took. Again, Thanks.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages



The steps are:

One, open settings, Touch ID and Passcode.

2.  enter your passcode.

3.  Find the button that says Turn Off passcode and double tap.

4.  You will have to confirm you want to do this on the next screen.

5.  You will be asked for your Apple ID password, enter it and activate 
turn off passcode again.

Lastly, you will have to enter your passcode again before it will 
actually turn it off.



I just did it and rebooted and it stay off.



Now, I recreated it because I want the protection of a passcode.







Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
but what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%20%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > On 
Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the co

Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Gerardo Corripio]

Same thing happened once; I guess certain codes because of the shape or layout 
of how you’d input them, aren’t recommended or allow?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 28 abr 2021, a la(s) 1:50 p.m., Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> 
> escribió:
> 
> I don't think they will allow one like 1234 or . I wanted 2580, but they 
> would not allow, so I just went with a sixer that's not bad. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 12:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
> 
> , 1234, 11, all those are examples of passcodes where the passcode is 
> little better than no passcode at all.
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
> 
> 
> 
> Just know that if it is easy, it is easy for someone to figure out, then your 
> phone could becomes theirs. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> 
> 
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>On Apr 27, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
>Passcode is the term that they use. 
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Larry Lumpkin
>Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:18 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
>
>Thanks Richard. Great steps. I thought I’d gone through that earlier but 
> when I followed your steps exactly, it worked. It asked for my passcode 
> instead of password but entered it and it took. Again, Thanks.
>
>
>
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
>Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 5:09 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
>
>
>
>The steps are:
>
>One, open settings, Touch ID and Passcode.
>
>2.  enter your passcode.
>
>3.  Find the button that says Turn Off passcode and double tap.
>
>4.  You will have to confirm you want to do this on the next screen.
>
>5.  You will be asked for your Apple ID password, enter it and activate 
> turn off passcode again.
>
>Lastly, you will have to enter your passcode again before it will actually 
> turn it off.
>
>
>
>I just did it and rebooted and it stay off.
>
>
>
>Now, I recreated it because I want the protection of a passcode.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Richard
>
>"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but 
> what they become by it."
>
>- John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>
>
>
>Web site: 
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>From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Larry Lumpkin
>Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 2:56 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
>
>
>
>There wasn’t such a button. Now that I’ve got it, I can’t get rid of it. I 
> did find in settings what I thought was going to be a place to turn it off 
> but when I restarted the phone, it required my 6-digit pass code. I’m very 
> disappointed. This is going to make the phone much harder for my wife to use 
> and learn on.

RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Dennis Long]

You need a good strong passcode.  The only time I would make my passcode  
or something like that is if I were taking the phone for repair.  It would be a 
security risk for them to have your actual passcode.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 12:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

 

, 1234, 11, all those are examples of passcodes where the passcode is 
little better than no passcode at all.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

 

Just know that if it is easy, it is easy for someone to figure out, then your 
phone could becomes theirs. 

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com> 

 

 

On Apr 27, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:

Passcode is the term that they use. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

Thanks Richard. Great steps. I thought I’d gone through that earlier but when I 
followed your steps exactly, it worked. It asked for my passcode instead of 
password but entered it and it took. Again, Thanks.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages



The steps are:

One, open settings, Touch ID and Passcode.

2.  enter your passcode.

3.  Find the button that says Turn Off passcode and double tap.

4.  You will have to confirm you want to do this on the next screen.

5.  You will be asked for your Apple ID password, enter it and activate turn 
off passcode again.

Lastly, you will have to enter your passcode again before it will actually turn 
it off.



I just did it and rebooted and it stay off.



Now, I recreated it because I want the protection of a passcode.







Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900



Web site: 
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<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%20%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages



There wasn’t such a button. Now that I’ve got it, I can’t get rid of it. I did 
find in settings what I thought was going to be a place to turn it off but when 
I restarted t

RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Carolyn]

I don't think they will allow one like 1234 or . I wanted 2580, but they 
would not allow, so I just went with a sixer that's not bad. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 12:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

, 1234, 11, all those are examples of passcodes where the passcode is 
little better than no passcode at all.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

 

Just know that if it is easy, it is easy for someone to figure out, then your 
phone could becomes theirs. 

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

www.turner42.com

 





On Apr 27, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

Passcode is the term that they use. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

Thanks Richard. Great steps. I thought I’d gone through that earlier 
but when I followed your steps exactly, it worked. It asked for my passcode 
instead of password but entered it and it took. Again, Thanks.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages



The steps are:

One, open settings, Touch ID and Passcode.

2.  enter your passcode.

3.  Find the button that says Turn Off passcode and double tap.

4.  You will have to confirm you want to do this on the next screen.

5.  You will be asked for your Apple ID password, enter it and activate 
turn off passcode again.

Lastly, you will have to enter your passcode again before it will 
actually turn it off.



I just did it and rebooted and it stay off.



Now, I recreated it because I want the protection of a passcode.







Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
but what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900



Web site: 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf445c6ee6ea34369944308d909cd0233%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637551598366991622%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=%2F4w3vb0k44Y%2Byg4VZHjuXx2kz5iWCa9fFxWpWWDl7FM%3Dreserved=0
 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages



There wasn’t such a button. Now that I’ve got it, I can’t get rid of 
it. I did find in settings what I thought was going to be a place to turn it 
off but when I restarted the phone, it required my 6-digit pass code. I’m very 
disappointed. This is going to make the phone much harder for my wife to use 
and learn on.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages



Yes. 

There should have been a "Passcode Options" button, after pressing 
that, the last item should be skip, or don't use, something like that.

  

RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Sort of like hiding the key under the doormat which of course is the first 
place any burglar would check.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

Just know that if it is easy, it is easy for someone to figure out, then your 
phone could becomes theirs.


Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com



On Apr 27, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
Passcode is the term that they use.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

Thanks Richard. Great steps. I thought I’d gone through that earlier but when I 
followed your steps exactly, it worked. It asked for my passcode instead of 
password but entered it and it took. Again, Thanks.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages



The steps are:

One, open settings, Touch ID and Passcode.

2.  enter your passcode.

3.  Find the button that says Turn Off passcode and double tap.

4.  You will have to confirm you want to do this on the next screen.

5.  You will be asked for your Apple ID password, enter it and activate turn 
off passcode again.

Lastly, you will have to enter your passcode again before it will actually turn 
it off.



I just did it and rebooted and it stay off.



Now, I recreated it because I want the protection of a passcode.







Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages



There wasn’t such a button. Now that I’ve got it, I can’t get rid of it. I did 
find in settings what I thought was going to be a place to turn it off but when 
I restarted the phone, it required my 6-digit pass code. I’m very disappointed. 
This is going to make the phone much harder for my wife to use and learn on.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages



Yes.

There should have been a "Passcode Options" button, after pressing that, the 
last item should be skip, or don't use, something like that.

Worse case, create a simple passcode, then after you are through that stage, go 
to the settings for passcodes and fingerprints and enter the passcode, then go 
and turn it off, which will ask you to enter it again.

Once you have jump through those lovely hoops, you will be done with the 
passtcode.





Richard

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt



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RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Sieghard Weitzel]

, 1234, 11, all those are examples of passcodes where the passcode is 
little better than no passcode at all.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

Just know that if it is easy, it is easy for someone to figure out, then your 
phone could becomes theirs.


Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com



On Apr 27, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
Passcode is the term that they use.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

Thanks Richard. Great steps. I thought I’d gone through that earlier but when I 
followed your steps exactly, it worked. It asked for my passcode instead of 
password but entered it and it took. Again, Thanks.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages



The steps are:

One, open settings, Touch ID and Passcode.

2.  enter your passcode.

3.  Find the button that says Turn Off passcode and double tap.

4.  You will have to confirm you want to do this on the next screen.

5.  You will be asked for your Apple ID password, enter it and activate turn 
off passcode again.

Lastly, you will have to enter your passcode again before it will actually turn 
it off.



I just did it and rebooted and it stay off.



Now, I recreated it because I want the protection of a passcode.







Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages



There wasn’t such a button. Now that I’ve got it, I can’t get rid of it. I did 
find in settings what I thought was going to be a place to turn it off but when 
I restarted the phone, it required my 6-digit pass code. I’m very disappointed. 
This is going to make the phone much harder for my wife to use and learn on.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages



Yes.

There should have been a "Passcode Options" button, after pressing that, the 
last item should be skip, or don't use, something like that.

Worse case, create a simple passcode, then after you are through that stage, go 
to the settings for passcodes and fingerprints and enter the passcode, then go 
and turn it off, which will ask you to enter it again.

Once you have jump through those lovely hoops, you will be done with the 
passtcode.





Richard

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt



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Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I've got an easy 4 digit passcode.  I don't know why anyone wouldn't
want to use one.  Not having one is really dumb in my opinion.  But we
do have a choice which is great.

On 4/28/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> That sounds like a good one, Gera, and one not easily figured out by someone
> trying to get into your business.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 7:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
>
> I use the 4 last digits of a phone number I had while growing up. Use
> something easy, but at the same time, significant to you.
>
>
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>
>
>   El 27 abr 2021, a la(s) 5:52 p.m., Richard Turner
>  escribió:
>   
>   
>
>   
>   Just know that if it is easy, it is easy for someone to figure out, then
> your phone could becomes theirs.
>
>
>
>   Richard
>   "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds
> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>
>   www.turner42.com
>
>
>
>   On Apr 27, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> 
> wrote:
>   
>   
>
>   Passcode is the term that they use.
>   
>   -Original Message-
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Larry Lumpkin
>   Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:18 PM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
>   
>   Thanks Richard. Great steps. I thought I’d gone through that 
> earlier but
> when I followed your steps exactly, it worked. It asked for my passcode
> instead of password but entered it and it took. Again, Thanks.
>   
>   
>   
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
>   Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 5:09 PM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
>   
>   
>   
>   The steps are:
>   
>   One, open settings, Touch ID and Passcode.
>   
>   2.  enter your passcode.
>   
>   3.  Find the button that says Turn Off passcode and double tap.
>   
>   4.  You will have to confirm you want to do this on the next 
> screen.
>   
>   5.  You will be asked for your Apple ID password, enter it and 
> activate
> turn off passcode again.
>   
>   Lastly, you will have to enter your passcode again before it 
> will actually
> turn it off.
>   
>   
>   
>   I just did it and rebooted and it stay off.
>   
>   
>   
>   Now, I recreated it because I want the protection of a passcode.
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   Richard
>   
>   "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get 
> for it, but
> what they become by it."
>   
>   - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>   
>   
>   
>   Web site:
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RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Carolyn]

That sounds like a good one, Gera, and one not easily figured out by someone 
trying to get into your business. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

I use the 4 last digits of a phone number I had while growing up. Use something 
easy, but at the same time, significant to you.


Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel


El 27 abr 2021, a la(s) 5:52 p.m., Richard Turner 
 escribió:



 
Just know that if it is easy, it is easy for someone to figure out, 
then your phone could becomes theirs. 



Richard 
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com



On Apr 27, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> 
wrote:



Passcode is the term that they use. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

Thanks Richard. Great steps. I thought I’d gone through that 
earlier but when I followed your steps exactly, it worked. It asked for my 
passcode instead of password but entered it and it took. Again, Thanks.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages



The steps are:

One, open settings, Touch ID and Passcode.

2.  enter your passcode.

3.  Find the button that says Turn Off passcode and double tap.

4.  You will have to confirm you want to do this on the next 
screen.

5.  You will be asked for your Apple ID password, enter it and 
activate turn off passcode again.

Lastly, you will have to enter your passcode again before it 
will actually turn it off.



I just did it and rebooted and it stay off.



Now, I recreated it because I want the protection of a passcode.







Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get 
for it, but what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900



Web site: 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages



There wasn’t such a button. Now that I’ve got it, I can’t get 
rid of it. I did find in settings what I thought was going to be a place to 
turn it off but when I restarted the phone, it required my 6-digit pass code. 
I’m very disappointed. This is going to make t

RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Carolyn]

It asked for mine, which is a six number one, but the numbers were not like on 
a keypad. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

On my end,it didn’t ask me for my Apple ID; only before reaching the options of 
adding Fingerprints, change Pass Code, etc., it wanted me to enter, in my case, 
my 4-digit code. However, I wasn’t able to make the virtual numpad appear! I 
used the Braille-Input to enter the code.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 27 abr 2021, a la(s) 5:37 p.m., Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> 
> escribió:
> 
> Passcode is the term that they use. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
> 
> Thanks Richard. Great steps. I thought I’d gone through that earlier but when 
> I followed your steps exactly, it worked. It asked for my passcode instead of 
> password but entered it and it took. Again, Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 5:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
> 
> 
> 
> The steps are:
> 
> One, open settings, Touch ID and Passcode.
> 
> 2.  enter your passcode.
> 
> 3.  Find the button that says Turn Off passcode and double tap.
> 
> 4.  You will have to confirm you want to do this on the next screen.
> 
> 5.  You will be asked for your Apple ID password, enter it and activate turn 
> off passcode again.
> 
> Lastly, you will have to enter your passcode again before it will actually 
> turn it off.
> 
> 
> 
> I just did it and rebooted and it stay off.
> 
> 
> 
> Now, I recreated it because I want the protection of a passcode.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
> they become by it."
> 
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
> 
> 
> 
> Web site: www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
> 
> 
> 
> There wasn’t such a button. Now that I’ve got it, I can’t get rid of it. I 
> did find in settings what I thought was going to be a place to turn it off 
> but when I restarted the phone, it required my 6-digit pass code. I’m very 
> disappointed. This is going to make the phone much harder for my wife to use 
> and learn on.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 4:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
> 
> 
> 
> Yes. 
> 
> There should have been a "Passcode Options" button, after pressing that, the 
> last item should be skip, or don't use, something like that.
> 
> Worse case, create a simple passcode, then after you are through that stage, 
> go to the settings for passcodes and fingerprints and enter the passcode, 
> then go and turn it off, which will ask you to enter it again.
> 
> Once you have jump through those lovely hoops, you will be done with the 
> passtcode.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> 
> 
> www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>On Apr 27, 2021, at 2:22 PM, Larry Lumpkin  <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>Hi, I updated the se2020 to 14.5 and can’t get past the pass code screen. 
> It lets me skip touch id but I’m in a loop on the pass code screen. I don’t 
> want either and can’ seem to get around this. Am I missing something?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Gerardo Corripio]

I use the 4 last digits of a phone number I had while growing up. Use something 
easy, but at the same time, significant to you.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 27 abr 2021, a la(s) 5:52 p.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
>  Just know that if it is easy, it is easy for someone to figure out, then 
> your phone could becomes theirs.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On Apr 27, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> Passcode is the term that they use. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Larry Lumpkin
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
>> 
>> Thanks Richard. Great steps. I thought I’d gone through that earlier but 
>> when I followed your steps exactly, it worked. It asked for my passcode 
>> instead of password but entered it and it took. Again, Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 5:09 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The steps are:
>> 
>> One, open settings, Touch ID and Passcode.
>> 
>> 2.  enter your passcode.
>> 
>> 3.  Find the button that says Turn Off passcode and double tap.
>> 
>> 4.  You will have to confirm you want to do this on the next screen.
>> 
>> 5.  You will be asked for your Apple ID password, enter it and activate turn 
>> off passcode again.
>> 
>> Lastly, you will have to enter your passcode again before it will actually 
>> turn it off.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I just did it and rebooted and it stay off.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Now, I recreated it because I want the protection of a passcode.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but 
>> what they become by it."
>> 
>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
>> Larry Lumpkin
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 2:56 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> There wasn’t such a button. Now that I’ve got it, I can’t get rid of it. I 
>> did find in settings what I thought was going to be a place to turn it off 
>> but when I restarted the phone, it required my 6-digit pass code. I’m very 
>> disappointed. This is going to make the phone much harder for my wife to use 
>> and learn on.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 4:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yes. 
>> 
>> There should have been a "Passcode Options" button, after pressing that, the 
>> last item should be skip, or don't use, something like that.
>> 
>> Worse case, create a simple passcode, then after you are through that stage, 

Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Gerardo Corripio]

On my end,it didn’t ask me for my Apple ID; only before reaching the options of 
adding Fingerprints, change Pass Code, etc., it wanted me to enter, in my case, 
my 4-digit code. However, I wasn’t able to make the virtual numpad appear! I 
used the Braille-Input to enter the code.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 27 abr 2021, a la(s) 5:37 p.m., Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> 
> escribió:
> 
> Passcode is the term that they use. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
> 
> Thanks Richard. Great steps. I thought I’d gone through that earlier but when 
> I followed your steps exactly, it worked. It asked for my passcode instead of 
> password but entered it and it took. Again, Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 5:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
> 
> 
> 
> The steps are:
> 
> One, open settings, Touch ID and Passcode.
> 
> 2.  enter your passcode.
> 
> 3.  Find the button that says Turn Off passcode and double tap.
> 
> 4.  You will have to confirm you want to do this on the next screen.
> 
> 5.  You will be asked for your Apple ID password, enter it and activate turn 
> off passcode again.
> 
> Lastly, you will have to enter your passcode again before it will actually 
> turn it off.
> 
> 
> 
> I just did it and rebooted and it stay off.
> 
> 
> 
> Now, I recreated it because I want the protection of a passcode.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
> they become by it."
> 
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
> 
> 
> 
> Web site: www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
> 
> 
> 
> There wasn’t such a button. Now that I’ve got it, I can’t get rid of it. I 
> did find in settings what I thought was going to be a place to turn it off 
> but when I restarted the phone, it required my 6-digit pass code. I’m very 
> disappointed. This is going to make the phone much harder for my wife to use 
> and learn on.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 4:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
> 
> 
> 
> Yes. 
> 
> There should have been a "Passcode Options" button, after pressing that, the 
> last item should be skip, or don't use, something like that.
> 
> Worse case, create a simple passcode, then after you are through that stage, 
> go to the settings for passcodes and fingerprints and enter the passcode, 
> then go and turn it off, which will ask you to enter it again.
> 
> Once you have jump through those lovely hoops, you will be done with the 
> passtcode.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> 
> 
> www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>On Apr 27, 2021, at 2:22 PM, Larry Lumpkin  <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>Hi, I updated the se2020 to 14.5 and can’t get past the pass code screen. 
> It lets me skip touch id but I’m in a loop on the pass code screen. I don’t 
> want either and can’ seem to get around this. Am I missing something?
> 
> 
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Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Richard Turner]

Just know that if it is easy, it is easy for someone to figure out, then your 
phone could becomes theirs.



Richard
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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

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On Apr 27, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

Passcode is the term that they use.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

Thanks Richard. Great steps. I thought I’d gone through that earlier but when I 
followed your steps exactly, it worked. It asked for my passcode instead of 
password but entered it and it took. Again, Thanks.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages



The steps are:

One, open settings, Touch ID and Passcode.

2.  enter your passcode.

3.  Find the button that says Turn Off passcode and double tap.

4.  You will have to confirm you want to do this on the next screen.

5.  You will be asked for your Apple ID password, enter it and activate turn 
off passcode again.

Lastly, you will have to enter your passcode again before it will actually turn 
it off.



I just did it and rebooted and it stay off.



Now, I recreated it because I want the protection of a passcode.







Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900



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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages



There wasn’t such a button. Now that I’ve got it, I can’t get rid of it. I did 
find in settings what I thought was going to be a place to turn it off but when 
I restarted the phone, it required my 6-digit pass code. I’m very disappointed. 
This is going to make the phone much harder for my wife to use and learn on.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages



Yes.

There should have been a "Passcode Options" button, after pressing that, the 
last item should be skip, or don't use, something like that.

Worse case, create a simple passcode, then after you are through that stage, go 
to the settings for passcodes and fingerprints and enter the passcode, then go 
and turn it off, which will ask you to enter it again.

Once you have jump through those lovely hoops, you will be done with the 
passtcode.





Richard

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt



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   On Apr 27, 2021, at 2:22 PM, Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

   

   Hi, I updated the se2020 to 14.5 and can’t get past the pass code screen. It 
lets me skip touch id but I’m in a loop on the pass code screen. I don’t want 
ei

RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Carolyn]

Passcode is the term that they use. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

Thanks Richard. Great steps. I thought I’d gone through that earlier but when I 
followed your steps exactly, it worked. It asked for my passcode instead of 
password but entered it and it took. Again, Thanks.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

 

The steps are:

One, open settings, Touch ID and Passcode.

2.  enter your passcode.

3.  Find the button that says Turn Off passcode and double tap.

4.  You will have to confirm you want to do this on the next screen.

5.  You will be asked for your Apple ID password, enter it and activate turn 
off passcode again.

Lastly, you will have to enter your passcode again before it will actually turn 
it off.

 

I just did it and rebooted and it stay off.

 

Now, I recreated it because I want the protection of a passcode.

 

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com> 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

 

There wasn’t such a button. Now that I’ve got it, I can’t get rid of it. I did 
find in settings what I thought was going to be a place to turn it off but when 
I restarted the phone, it required my 6-digit pass code. I’m very disappointed. 
This is going to make the phone much harder for my wife to use and learn on.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

 

Yes. 

There should have been a "Passcode Options" button, after pressing that, the 
last item should be skip, or don't use, something like that.

Worse case, create a simple passcode, then after you are through that stage, go 
to the settings for passcodes and fingerprints and enter the passcode, then go 
and turn it off, which will ask you to enter it again.

Once you have jump through those lovely hoops, you will be done with the 
passtcode.

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com> 

 

 

On Apr 27, 2021, at 2:22 PM, Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

 

Hi, I updated the se2020 to 14.5 and can’t get past the pass code 
screen. It lets me skip touch id but I’m in a loop on the pass code screen. I 
don’t want either and can’ seem to get around this. Am I missing something?

 

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RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Carolyn]

I have a really easy passcode going around the edge of the keypad. If you have 
an easy one, you get used to it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 5:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

There wasn’t such a button. Now that I’ve got it, I can’t get rid of it. I did 
find in settings what I thought was going to be a place to turn it off but when 
I restarted the phone, it required my 6-digit pass code. I’m very disappointed. 
This is going to make the phone much harder for my wife to use and learn on.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

 

Yes. 

There should have been a "Passcode Options" button, after pressing that, the 
last item should be skip, or don't use, something like that.

Worse case, create a simple passcode, then after you are through that stage, go 
to the settings for passcodes and fingerprints and enter the passcode, then go 
and turn it off, which will ask you to enter it again.

Once you have jump through those lovely hoops, you will be done with the 
passtcode.

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

www.turner42.com

 





On Apr 27, 2021, at 2:22 PM, Larry Lumpkin  
wrote:

 

Hi, I updated the se2020 to 14.5 and can’t get past the pass code 
screen. It lets me skip touch id but I’m in a loop on the pass code screen. I 
don’t want either and can’ seem to get around this. Am I missing something?

 

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RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Larry Lumpkin]

Thanks Richard. Great steps. I thought I’d gone through that earlier but when I 
followed your steps exactly, it worked. It asked for my passcode instead of 
password but entered it and it took. Again, Thanks.

 

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Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

 

The steps are:

One, open settings, Touch ID and Passcode.

2.  enter your passcode.

3.  Find the button that says Turn Off passcode and double tap.

4.  You will have to confirm you want to do this on the next screen.

5.  You will be asked for your Apple ID password, enter it and activate turn 
off passcode again.

Lastly, you will have to enter your passcode again before it will actually turn 
it off.

 

I just did it and rebooted and it stay off.

 

Now, I recreated it because I want the protection of a passcode.

 

 

 

Richard

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they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

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Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

 

There wasn’t such a button. Now that I’ve got it, I can’t get rid of it. I did 
find in settings what I thought was going to be a place to turn it off but when 
I restarted the phone, it required my 6-digit pass code. I’m very disappointed. 
This is going to make the phone much harder for my wife to use and learn on.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

 

Yes. 

There should have been a "Passcode Options" button, after pressing that, the 
last item should be skip, or don't use, something like that.

Worse case, create a simple passcode, then after you are through that stage, go 
to the settings for passcodes and fingerprints and enter the passcode, then go 
and turn it off, which will ask you to enter it again.

Once you have jump through those lovely hoops, you will be done with the 
passtcode.

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com> 

 

 

On Apr 27, 2021, at 2:22 PM, Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

 

Hi, I updated the se2020 to 14.5 and can’t get past the pass code screen. It 
lets me skip touch id but I’m in a loop on the pass code screen. I don’t want 
either and can’ seem to get around this. Am I missing something?

 

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RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Richard Turner]

The steps are:
One, open settings, Touch ID and Passcode.
2.  enter your passcode.
3.  Find the button that says Turn Off passcode and double tap.
4.  You will have to confirm you want to do this on the next screen.
5.  You will be asked for your Apple ID password, enter it and activate turn 
off passcode again.
Lastly, you will have to enter your passcode again before it will actually turn 
it off.

I just did it and rebooted and it stay off.

Now, I recreated it because I want the protection of a passcode.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

There wasn’t such a button. Now that I’ve got it, I can’t get rid of it. I did 
find in settings what I thought was going to be a place to turn it off but when 
I restarted the phone, it required my 6-digit pass code. I’m very disappointed. 
This is going to make the phone much harder for my wife to use and learn on.


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Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

Yes.
There should have been a "Passcode Options" button, after pressing that, the 
last item should be skip, or don't use, something like that.
Worse case, create a simple passcode, then after you are through that stage, go 
to the settings for passcodes and fingerprints and enter the passcode, then go 
and turn it off, which will ask you to enter it again.
Once you have jump through those lovely hoops, you will be done with the 
passtcode.


Richard
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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>


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either and can’ seem to get around this. Am I missing something?

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Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Anthony Vece]

Try scrolling the screen. A lot of times that helps. Stay safe
Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Apr 27, 2021, at 5:58 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> 
> 
> There wasn’t such a button. Now that I’ve got it, I can’t get rid of it. I 
> did find in settings what I thought was going to be a place to turn it off 
> but when I restarted the phone, it required my 6-digit pass code. I’m very 
> disappointed. This is going to make the phone much harder for my wife to use 
> and learn on.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 4:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
>  
> Yes.
> There should have been a "Passcode Options" button, after pressing that, the 
> last item should be skip, or don't use, something like that.
> Worse case, create a simple passcode, then after you are through that stage, 
> go to the settings for passcodes and fingerprints and enter the passcode, 
> then go and turn it off, which will ask you to enter it again.
> Once you have jump through those lovely hoops, you will be done with the 
> passtcode.
>  
> 
>  
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>  
> www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> 
> On Apr 27, 2021, at 2:22 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, I updated the se2020 to 14.5 and can’t get past the pass code screen. It 
> lets me skip touch id but I’m in a loop on the pass code screen. I don’t want 
> either and can’ seem to get around this. Am I missing something?
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RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Larry Lumpkin]

There wasn’t such a button. Now that I’ve got it, I can’t get rid of it. I did 
find in settings what I thought was going to be a place to turn it off but when 
I restarted the phone, it required my 6-digit pass code. I’m very disappointed. 
This is going to make the phone much harder for my wife to use and learn on.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

 

Yes. 

There should have been a "Passcode Options" button, after pressing that, the 
last item should be skip, or don't use, something like that.

Worse case, create a simple passcode, then after you are through that stage, go 
to the settings for passcodes and fingerprints and enter the passcode, then go 
and turn it off, which will ask you to enter it again.

Once you have jump through those lovely hoops, you will be done with the 
passtcode.

 

 

Richard 

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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

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Hi, I updated the se2020 to 14.5 and can’t get past the pass code screen. It 
lets me skip touch id but I’m in a loop on the pass code screen. I don’t want 
either and can’ seem to get around this. Am I missing something?

 

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Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Richard Turner]

Yes.
There should have been a "Passcode Options" button, after pressing that, the 
last item should be skip, or don't use, something like that.
Worse case, create a simple passcode, then after you are through that stage, go 
to the settings for passcodes and fingerprints and enter the passcode, then go 
and turn it off, which will ask you to enter it again.
Once you have jump through those lovely hoops, you will be done with the 
passtcode.



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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

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On Apr 27, 2021, at 2:22 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:


Hi, I updated the se2020 to 14.5 and can’t get past the pass code screen. It 
lets me skip touch id but I’m in a loop on the pass code screen. I don’t want 
either and can’ seem to get around this. Am I missing something?


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IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Larry Lumpkin]

Hi, I updated the se2020 to 14.5 and can't get past the pass code screen. It
lets me skip touch id but I'm in a loop on the pass code screen. I don't
want either and can' seem to get around this. Am I missing something?

 

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Re: panning pages in braille with 14.5 RE: Issues in iOS 14.4 that you are hoping are fixed in 14.5

[Rebecca Ilniski]

Hi Richard. Thanks so much. I think if it's corrected it will work in both of 
those apps. 

Rebecca Ilniski and Marvin
email: rilni...@gmail.com
Twitter: applegirl1994

On Apr 14, 2021, at 6:30 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


I am very optimistic that 14.5 will solve the problem of the braille skipping 
lines in Voice Dream Reader when changing pages.
I don’t use the Kindle app enough to guess there, but so long as the “Turn 
pages when panning” is on in the VoiceOver Braille settings, you should find it 
a good experience once again.
 
 
 
Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 
Web site: www.turner42.com
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rebecca 
Ilniski
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 3:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Issues in iOS 14.4 that you are hoping are fixed in 14.5
 
I'm hoping that the bug with Braille in reading apps like Voice Dream Reader 
and Kindle will be fixed. When I'm reading a book when I get to the last line 
on a page instead of going to the top of the next page focus is lost and I end 
up somewhere on the next page not the top for sure. 

Rebecca Ilniski and Marvin
email: rilni...@gmail.com
Twitter: applegirl1994

On Apr 14, 2021, at 5:54 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


Hello all,
Could you remind me of what issues people are hoping to have fixed in iOS 14.5?
I’ve been concentrating on several different braille devices and fallen behind 
on keeping up with issues, and since I suspect 14.5 is close to happening, 
could you refresh my memory?
 
I know message threading focus is a big one … but that isn’t all, I’m sure.
 
Thanks,
 
 
Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
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Web site: www.turner42.com
 
 
 
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panning pages in braille with 14.5 RE: Issues in iOS 14.4 that you are hoping are fixed in 14.5

[Richard Turner]

I am very optimistic that 14.5 will solve the problem of the braille skipping 
lines in Voice Dream Reader when changing pages.
I don’t use the Kindle app enough to guess there, but so long as the “Turn 
pages when panning” is on in the VoiceOver Braille settings, you should find it 
a good experience once again.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rebecca 
Ilniski
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 3:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Issues in iOS 14.4 that you are hoping are fixed in 14.5

I'm hoping that the bug with Braille in reading apps like Voice Dream Reader 
and Kindle will be fixed. When I'm reading a book when I get to the last line 
on a page instead of going to the top of the next page focus is lost and I end 
up somewhere on the next page not the top for sure.
Rebecca Ilniski and Marvin
email: rilni...@gmail.com<mailto:rilni...@gmail.com>
Twitter: applegirl1994

On Apr 14, 2021, at 5:54 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hello all,
Could you remind me of what issues people are hoping to have fixed in iOS 14.5?
I’ve been concentrating on several different braille devices and fallen behind 
on keeping up with issues, and since I suspect 14.5 is close to happening, 
could you refresh my memory?

I know message threading focus is a big one … but that isn’t all, I’m sure.

Thanks,


Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
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Re: Question About Three-Finger-Swipe left/right to Move Between Pages

[Marty Hutchings]

It would be wonderful if a cheat sheet like that existed, because my sighted 
friends are always asking me how to do something and all I can tell them is 
how I do it using Voiceover, which obviously uses different gestures.




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-Original Message- 
From: dani pagador

Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 9:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question About Three-Finger-Swipe left/right to Move Between 
Pages


Thanks, Alan. I need to go find, or make, a cheat sheet with the
sighted user equivalents for VO gestures.

More Later,
Dani

On 9/30/20, Alan Lemly  wrote:

Dani,

Voiceover users do a 3 finger swipe left or right to move among iPhone 
home

screens. When Voiceover is turned off, a single finger swipe left or right
moves among home screens.

Alan Lemly

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Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 2:49 PM
To: viphone
Subject: Question About Three-Finger-Swipe left/right to Move Between 
Pages


Hi, Everyone.
My Mom just got a new SE20 yesterday and needs help adjusting to it--she
upgraded her 6S. Her YouTube app is not on her home screen, and I am
wondering if the gesture to move between pages is a standard one that both
sighted and blind users access, or if it's a VO specific one.

Thanks,
Dani

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RE: Question About Three-Finger-Swipe left/right to Move Between Pages

[Richard Turner]

As far as ending a call, they can just touch the end call button which is 
clearly visible.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 8:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question About Three-Finger-Swipe left/right to Move Between Pages

I understand why VoiceOver users have to have a different scrolling gesture, 
but I think it is too bad Apple did not keep the slide to answer gesture for 
us. And how do sighted users end a call? I'll bet it is with that same slide 
gesture. Thanks for any information. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Oct 1, 2020, at 10:20 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

HI,
The nice thing for sighted people is there are not so many gestures.

Basically, if you are scrolling up, down, left or right, a sighted person uses 
1 finger where VO users use 3.

They do not have to double tap to activate; just touch.

Answering the phone is a one finger swipe across the screen.

To bring up the context menu, is the one finger long press.

In talking with my sighted wife, that may be all a sighted person needs to do 
for gestures.

HTH,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of dani 
pagador
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question About Three-Finger-Swipe left/right to Move Between Pages

Thanks, Alan. I need to go find, or make, a cheat sheet with the sighted user 
equivalents for VO gestures.

More Later,
Dani

> On 9/30/20, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Dani,
> 
> Voiceover users do a 3 finger swipe left or right to move among iPhone 
> home screens. When Voiceover is turned off, a single finger swipe left 
> or right moves among home screens.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of dani pagador
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 2:49 PM
> To: viphone
> Subject: Question About Three-Finger-Swipe left/right to Move Between 
> Pages
> 
> Hi, Everyone.
> My Mom just got a new SE20 yesterday and needs help adjusting to 
> it--she upgraded her 6S. Her YouTube app is not on her home screen, 
> and I am wondering if the gesture to move between pages is a standard 
> one that both sighted and blind users access, or if it's a VO specific one.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dani
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Re: Question About Three-Finger-Swipe left/right to Move Between Pages

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Arnold,

You could do a double-tap and hold and then do the slide gesture if you want.

Best,
Anna


> On Oct 1, 2020, at 10:02 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> I understand why VoiceOver users have to have a different scrolling gesture, 
> but I think it is too bad Apple did not keep the slide to answer gesture for 
> us. And how do sighted users end a call? I'll bet it is with that same slide 
> gesture. Thanks for any information. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20
> 
> On Oct 1, 2020, at 10:20 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> HI,
> The nice thing for sighted people is there are not so many gestures.
> 
> Basically, if you are scrolling up, down, left or right, a sighted person 
> uses 1 finger where VO users use 3.
> 
> They do not have to double tap to activate; just touch.
> 
> Answering the phone is a one finger swipe across the screen.
> 
> To bring up the context menu, is the one finger long press.
> 
> In talking with my sighted wife, that may be all a sighted person needs to do 
> for gestures.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of dani 
> pagador
> Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 7:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question About Three-Finger-Swipe left/right to Move Between 
> Pages
> 
> Thanks, Alan. I need to go find, or make, a cheat sheet with the sighted user 
> equivalents for VO gestures.
> 
> More Later,
> Dani
> 
>> On 9/30/20, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> Dani,
>> 
>> Voiceover users do a 3 finger swipe left or right to move among iPhone 
>> home screens. When Voiceover is turned off, a single finger swipe left 
>> or right moves among home screens.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of dani pagador
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 2:49 PM
>> To: viphone
>> Subject: Question About Three-Finger-Swipe left/right to Move Between 
>> Pages
>> 
>> Hi, Everyone.
>> My Mom just got a new SE20 yesterday and needs help adjusting to 
>> it--she upgraded her 6S. Her YouTube app is not on her home screen, 
>> and I am wondering if the gesture to move between pages is a standard 
>> one that both sighted and blind users access, or if it's a VO specific one.
>> 
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Re: Question About Three-Finger-Swipe left/right to Move Between Pages

[Arnold Schmidt]

I understand why VoiceOver users have to have a different scrolling gesture, 
but I think it is too bad Apple did not keep the slide to answer gesture for 
us. And how do sighted users end a call? I'll bet it is with that same slide 
gesture. Thanks for any information. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Oct 1, 2020, at 10:20 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

HI,
The nice thing for sighted people is there are not so many gestures.

Basically, if you are scrolling up, down, left or right, a sighted person uses 
1 finger where VO users use 3.

They do not have to double tap to activate; just touch.

Answering the phone is a one finger swipe across the screen.

To bring up the context menu, is the one finger long press.

In talking with my sighted wife, that may be all a sighted person needs to do 
for gestures.

HTH,


Richard
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-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: Question About Three-Finger-Swipe left/right to Move Between Pages

Thanks, Alan. I need to go find, or make, a cheat sheet with the sighted user 
equivalents for VO gestures.

More Later,
Dani

> On 9/30/20, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Dani,
> 
> Voiceover users do a 3 finger swipe left or right to move among iPhone 
> home screens. When Voiceover is turned off, a single finger swipe left 
> or right moves among home screens.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of dani pagador
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 2:49 PM
> To: viphone
> Subject: Question About Three-Finger-Swipe left/right to Move Between 
> Pages
> 
> Hi, Everyone.
> My Mom just got a new SE20 yesterday and needs help adjusting to 
> it--she upgraded her 6S. Her YouTube app is not on her home screen, 
> and I am wondering if the gesture to move between pages is a standard 
> one that both sighted and blind users access, or if it's a VO specific one.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dani
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RE: Question About Three-Finger-Swipe left/right to Move Between Pages

[Richard Turner]

HI,
The nice thing for sighted people is there are not so many gestures.

Basically, if you are scrolling up, down, left or right, a sighted person uses 
1 finger where VO users use 3.

They do not have to double tap to activate; just touch.

Answering the phone is a one finger swipe across the screen.

To bring up the context menu, is the one finger long press.

In talking with my sighted wife, that may be all a sighted person needs to do 
for gestures.

HTH,


Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of dani 
pagador
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question About Three-Finger-Swipe left/right to Move Between Pages

Thanks, Alan. I need to go find, or make, a cheat sheet with the sighted user 
equivalents for VO gestures.

More Later,
Dani

On 9/30/20, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Dani,
>
> Voiceover users do a 3 finger swipe left or right to move among iPhone 
> home screens. When Voiceover is turned off, a single finger swipe left 
> or right moves among home screens.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of dani pagador
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 2:49 PM
> To: viphone
> Subject: Question About Three-Finger-Swipe left/right to Move Between 
> Pages
>
> Hi, Everyone.
> My Mom just got a new SE20 yesterday and needs help adjusting to 
> it--she upgraded her 6S. Her YouTube app is not on her home screen, 
> and I am wondering if the gesture to move between pages is a standard 
> one that both sighted and blind users access, or if it's a VO specific one.
>
> Thanks,
> Dani
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Re: Question About Three-Finger-Swipe left/right to Move Between Pages

[dani pagador]

Thanks, Alan. I need to go find, or make, a cheat sheet with the
sighted user equivalents for VO gestures.

More Later,
Dani

On 9/30/20, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Dani,
>
> Voiceover users do a 3 finger swipe left or right to move among iPhone home
> screens. When Voiceover is turned off, a single finger swipe left or right
> moves among home screens.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of dani pagador
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 2:49 PM
> To: viphone
> Subject: Question About Three-Finger-Swipe left/right to Move Between Pages
>
> Hi, Everyone.
> My Mom just got a new SE20 yesterday and needs help adjusting to it--she
> upgraded her 6S. Her YouTube app is not on her home screen, and I am
> wondering if the gesture to move between pages is a standard one that both
> sighted and blind users access, or if it's a VO specific one.
>
> Thanks,
> Dani
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RE: Question About Three-Finger-Swipe left/right to Move Between Pages

[Alan Lemly]

Dani,

Voiceover users do a 3 finger swipe left or right to move among iPhone home 
screens. When Voiceover is turned off, a single finger swipe left or right 
moves among home screens.

Alan Lemly

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dani pagador
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 2:49 PM
To: viphone
Subject: Question About Three-Finger-Swipe left/right to Move Between Pages

Hi, Everyone.
My Mom just got a new SE20 yesterday and needs help adjusting to it--she 
upgraded her 6S. Her YouTube app is not on her home screen, and I am wondering 
if the gesture to move between pages is a standard one that both sighted and 
blind users access, or if it's a VO specific one.

Thanks,
Dani

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Question About Three-Finger-Swipe left/right to Move Between Pages

[dani pagador]

Hi, Everyone.
My Mom just got a new SE20 yesterday and needs help adjusting to
it--she upgraded her 6S. Her YouTube app is not on her home screen,
and I am wondering if the gesture to move between pages is a standard
one that both sighted and blind users access, or if it's a VO specific
one.

Thanks,
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Re: Restoring hidden pages

[Maria Campbell]

Thank you.  That did it.  I won't be hiding any pages again.


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On 9/22/2020 6:18 PM, regina alvarado wrote:

Maria, find an app flick up to edit double tap and find where it says page one 
of whatever and double tap on that that brings up the hidden pages and also the 
pages that are on hidden. Look through them and unhide those that you don’t 
want. It really works and all of the apps on that page will be back on the 
page. They may not be in the order you had them though so you may have to edit 
where they are. Hope that helps. Sorry, I’m not a very good dictator. Hope you 
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On Sep 22, 2020, at 6:12 PM, Maria Campbell  wrote:

Can someone please tell me how to do this?  Thank you.




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Re: Restoring hidden pages

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Maria, find an app flick up to edit double tap and find where it says page one 
of whatever and double tap on that that brings up the hidden pages and also the 
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where they are. Hope that helps. Sorry, I’m not a very good dictator. Hope you 
understand what I’m talking about.

Reggie Alvarado 

On Sep 22, 2020, at 6:12 PM, Maria Campbell  wrote:

Can someone please tell me how to do this?  Thank you.


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RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

[chaltain]

For me it comes down to the widget itself. I put the battery widget on my 
screen, and I decided the information it gave me wasn’t worth the real estate. 
Right now I have the weather widget and the podcast widget on my home page. I 
like being able to see the temperature without having to go to the screen of 
widgets or opening up the weather app. I also like knowing if I have a new 
podcast without having to open up the podcast. This widget may go though if I 
decide I need this space for something else. Screen real estate isn’t as 
important to me now since I have the apps library and so many ways to open up 
and find an app.

 

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Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 3:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

 

Hi Alan,

 

I find some widgets useful, for example, Netatmo has a widget which if I go to 
my today screen gives me a quick overview of all my modules, also my bank 
allows me to add whichever accounts I want so that I can see their balance on a 
widget on the Today Screen.

I agree that adding a widget to the home screen makes little sense for a blind 
user. I tried it just to check it out so I added the battery widget and you are 
correct, it took up a 2 x 2 grid, I put it at the very top left of my screen 
and usually my top two rows of apps look like this:

 

App Store, Calculator, Camera, Files

Home, Health, Photos, Settings

 

After I put the battery widget there at the top where the App Store widget was, 
I then had only App Store and Calculator in the top row to the right of the 
widget and I think in the second row to the right of the widget I had the first 
ttwo apps of the second row, Hom e and Health.

The third row now contained the third and fourth app from the first and second 
row, so it had Camera, Files, Photos and Settings.

My last row of 4 apps on home screen one was entirely pushed over to home 
screen 2.

After I deleted the battery widget it still was not the way as it was before, 
because now I had App Store, Calculator, Home and Health in the first row and 
in the end I had to move at least 4 or 5 apps to where I had them before in 
order to restore the previous look.

 

I could see how visually people will really like these widgets and stacks of 
widgets, but I doubt it will be something which catches on with most Voiceover 
users.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

 

Hi Sieghard,

 

I haven't gone to a share sheet since upgrading and I no longer use the native 
Mail app so I can't address your issues with swiping through their various 
controls. I will say that I'm not a big fan of the Today screen in iOS 14 with 
its widgets. To me, widgets seem to be more of a visual feature especially when 
they are stacked since it seems I'm swiping and swiping to get through one in 
order to examine others on the screen. And I have no intention of moving any 
widgets to any of my home screens. I believe they take up at a minimum a two by 
two grid of home screen icons and I'm not willing to give up that screen real 
estate. I did note that Thomas Donville of AppleVis mentioned in his podcast on 
widgets that you should add containers to your rotor because they make 
navigating amongst widgets easier.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 9:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

 

Have others found that in iOS 14 the Today screen and also some other screens 
like the Share sheet which comes up if you for example Share a news article are 
very difficult and sometimes impossible to navigate? It seems Voiceover gets 
stuck on some item and no matter what you do that is where it stays, swiping 
left or right ant doesn't do anything, you can sometimes touch the screen 
somewhere else to get out of that, but it's quite annoying. The same happens 
if, for example, I swipe left from the first email into the search field at the 
top of Mail or Messages, then I can't swipe right to get out of it any more.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 1:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

 

An even easier way to

RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

[Richard Turner]

There should be an edit button, I think at the bottom of that page.
Activate that and you should be able to scroll through all the widgets that are 
available.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 3:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

How do you see all the available widgets on your phone? I can’t get past the 
stock widgets. Thank you.
Jenn

Jenn and Kumi


On Sep 20, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Alan,

I find some widgets useful, for example, Netatmo has a widget which if I go to 
my today screen gives me a quick overview of all my modules, also my bank 
allows me to add whichever accounts I want so that I can see their balance on a 
widget on the Today Screen.
I agree that adding a widget to the home screen makes little sense for a blind 
user. I tried it just to check it out so I added the battery widget and you are 
correct, it took up a 2 x 2 grid, I put it at the very top left of my screen 
and usually my top two rows of apps look like this:

App Store, Calculator, Camera, Files
Home, Health, Photos, Settings

After I put the battery widget there at the top where the App Store widget was, 
I then had only App Store and Calculator in the top row to the right of the 
widget and I think in the second row to the right of the widget I had the first 
ttwo apps of the second row, Hom e and Health.
The third row now contained the third and fourth app from the first and second 
row, so it had Camera, Files, Photos and Settings.
My last row of 4 apps on home screen one was entirely pushed over to home 
screen 2.
After I deleted the battery widget it still was not the way as it was before, 
because now I had App Store, Calculator, Home and Health in the first row and 
in the end I had to move at least 4 or 5 apps to where I had them before in 
order to restore the previous look.

I could see how visually people will really like these widgets and stacks of 
widgets, but I doubt it will be something which catches on with most Voiceover 
users.


Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

Hi Sieghard,

I haven't gone to a share sheet since upgrading and I no longer use the native 
Mail app so I can't address your issues with swiping through their various 
controls. I will say that I'm not a big fan of the Today screen in iOS 14 with 
its widgets. To me, widgets seem to be more of a visual feature especially when 
they are stacked since it seems I'm swiping and swiping to get through one in 
order to examine others on the screen. And I have no intention of moving any 
widgets to any of my home screens. I believe they take up at a minimum a two by 
two grid of home screen icons and I'm not willing to give up that screen real 
estate. I did note that Thomas Donville of AppleVis mentioned in his podcast on 
widgets that you should add containers to your rotor because they make 
navigating amongst widgets easier.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 9:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

Have others found that in iOS 14 the Today screen and also some other screens 
like the Share sheet which comes up if you for example Share a news article are 
very difficult and sometimes impossible to navigate? It seems Voiceover gets 
stuck on some item and no matter what you do that is where it stays, swiping 
left or right ant doesn't do anything, you can sometimes touch the screen 
somewhere else to get out of that, but it's quite annoying. The same happens 
if, for example, I swipe left from the first email into the search field at the 
top of Mail or Messages, then I can't swipe right to get out of it any more.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 1:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

An even easier way to remove a widget from the screen of widgets is to just 
bring u

Re: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

[Jennie Facer]

How do you see all the available widgets on your phone? I can’t get past the 
stock widgets. Thank you.
Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Sep 20, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Alan,
>  
> I find some widgets useful, for example, Netatmo has a widget which if I go 
> to my today screen gives me a quick overview of all my modules, also my bank 
> allows me to add whichever accounts I want so that I can see their balance on 
> a widget on the Today Screen.
> I agree that adding a widget to the home screen makes little sense for a 
> blind user. I tried it just to check it out so I added the battery widget and 
> you are correct, it took up a 2 x 2 grid, I put it at the very top left of my 
> screen and usually my top two rows of apps look like this:
>  
> App Store, Calculator, Camera, Files
> Home, Health, Photos, Settings
>  
> After I put the battery widget there at the top where the App Store widget 
> was, I then had only App Store and Calculator in the top row to the right of 
> the widget and I think in the second row to the right of the widget I had the 
> first ttwo apps of the second row, Hom e and Health.
> The third row now contained the third and fourth app from the first and 
> second row, so it had Camera, Files, Photos and Settings.
> My last row of 4 apps on home screen one was entirely pushed over to home 
> screen 2.
> After I deleted the battery widget it still was not the way as it was before, 
> because now I had App Store, Calculator, Home and Health in the first row and 
> in the end I had to move at least 4 or 5 apps to where I had them before in 
> order to restore the previous look.
>  
> I could see how visually people will really like these widgets and stacks of 
> widgets, but I doubt it will be something which catches on with most 
> Voiceover users.
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 1:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?
>  
> Hi Sieghard,
>  
> I haven't gone to a share sheet since upgrading and I no longer use the 
> native Mail app so I can't address your issues with swiping through their 
> various controls. I will say that I'm not a big fan of the Today screen in 
> iOS 14 with its widgets. To me, widgets seem to be more of a visual feature 
> especially when they are stacked since it seems I'm swiping and swiping to 
> get through one in order to examine others on the screen. And I have no 
> intention of moving any widgets to any of my home screens. I believe they 
> take up at a minimum a two by two grid of home screen icons and I'm not 
> willing to give up that screen real estate. I did note that Thomas Donville 
> of AppleVis mentioned in his podcast on widgets that you should add 
> containers to your rotor because they make navigating amongst widgets easier.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 9:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?
>  
> Have others found that in iOS 14 the Today screen and also some other screens 
> like the Share sheet which comes up if you for example Share a news article 
> are very difficult and sometimes impossible to navigate? It seems Voiceover 
> gets stuck on some item and no matter what you do that is where it stays, 
> swiping left or right ant doesn't do anything, you can sometimes touch the 
> screen somewhere else to get out of that, but it's quite annoying. The same 
> happens if, for example, I swipe left from the first email into the search 
> field at the top of Mail or Messages, then I can't swipe right to get out of 
> it any more.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> chalt...@gmail.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 1:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?
>  
> An even easier way to remove a widget from the screen of widgets is to just 
> bring up the context menu with a triple tap on the widget and then double tap 
> on remove widget.
>  
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
>  
> From: chalt...@gmail.com  
> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 12:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?
>  
> I tend to just do the same thing on the widgets screen as I do on any other 
> home page. In particular, I use the actions and flick down until I hear edit. 
> After double tapping, I find the widget I want to remove and then flick down 
> to delet

RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Alan,

I find some widgets useful, for example, Netatmo has a widget which if I go to 
my today screen gives me a quick overview of all my modules, also my bank 
allows me to add whichever accounts I want so that I can see their balance on a 
widget on the Today Screen.
I agree that adding a widget to the home screen makes little sense for a blind 
user. I tried it just to check it out so I added the battery widget and you are 
correct, it took up a 2 x 2 grid, I put it at the very top left of my screen 
and usually my top two rows of apps look like this:

App Store, Calculator, Camera, Files
Home, Health, Photos, Settings

After I put the battery widget there at the top where the App Store widget was, 
I then had only App Store and Calculator in the top row to the right of the 
widget and I think in the second row to the right of the widget I had the first 
ttwo apps of the second row, Hom e and Health.
The third row now contained the third and fourth app from the first and second 
row, so it had Camera, Files, Photos and Settings.
My last row of 4 apps on home screen one was entirely pushed over to home 
screen 2.
After I deleted the battery widget it still was not the way as it was before, 
because now I had App Store, Calculator, Home and Health in the first row and 
in the end I had to move at least 4 or 5 apps to where I had them before in 
order to restore the previous look.

I could see how visually people will really like these widgets and stacks of 
widgets, but I doubt it will be something which catches on with most Voiceover 
users.


Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

Hi Sieghard,

I haven't gone to a share sheet since upgrading and I no longer use the native 
Mail app so I can't address your issues with swiping through their various 
controls. I will say that I'm not a big fan of the Today screen in iOS 14 with 
its widgets. To me, widgets seem to be more of a visual feature especially when 
they are stacked since it seems I'm swiping and swiping to get through one in 
order to examine others on the screen. And I have no intention of moving any 
widgets to any of my home screens. I believe they take up at a minimum a two by 
two grid of home screen icons and I'm not willing to give up that screen real 
estate. I did note that Thomas Donville of AppleVis mentioned in his podcast on 
widgets that you should add containers to your rotor because they make 
navigating amongst widgets easier.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 9:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

Have others found that in iOS 14 the Today screen and also some other screens 
like the Share sheet which comes up if you for example Share a news article are 
very difficult and sometimes impossible to navigate? It seems Voiceover gets 
stuck on some item and no matter what you do that is where it stays, swiping 
left or right ant doesn't do anything, you can sometimes touch the screen 
somewhere else to get out of that, but it's quite annoying. The same happens 
if, for example, I swipe left from the first email into the search field at the 
top of Mail or Messages, then I can't swipe right to get out of it any more.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 1:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

An even easier way to remove a widget from the screen of widgets is to just 
bring up the context menu with a triple tap on the widget and then double tap 
on remove widget.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

From: chalt...@gmail.com<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> 
mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 12:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

I tend to just do the same thing on the widgets screen as I do on any other 
home page. In particular, I use the actions and flick down until I hear edit. 
After double tapping, I find the widget I want to remove and then flick down to 
delete.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

I j

RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Sieghard,

 

I haven't gone to a share sheet since upgrading and I no longer use the native 
Mail app so I can't address your issues with swiping through their various 
controls. I will say that I'm not a big fan of the Today screen in iOS 14 with 
its widgets. To me, widgets seem to be more of a visual feature especially when 
they are stacked since it seems I'm swiping and swiping to get through one in 
order to examine others on the screen. And I have no intention of moving any 
widgets to any of my home screens. I believe they take up at a minimum a two by 
two grid of home screen icons and I'm not willing to give up that screen real 
estate. I did note that Thomas Donville of AppleVis mentioned in his podcast on 
widgets that you should add containers to your rotor because they make 
navigating amongst widgets easier.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 9:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

 

Have others found that in iOS 14 the Today screen and also some other screens 
like the Share sheet which comes up if you for example Share a news article are 
very difficult and sometimes impossible to navigate? It seems Voiceover gets 
stuck on some item and no matter what you do that is where it stays, swiping 
left or right ant doesn't do anything, you can sometimes touch the screen 
somewhere else to get out of that, but it's quite annoying. The same happens 
if, for example, I swipe left from the first email into the search field at the 
top of Mail or Messages, then I can't swipe right to get out of it any more.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 1:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

 

An even easier way to remove a widget from the screen of widgets is to just 
bring up the context menu with a triple tap on the widget and then double tap 
on remove widget.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: chalt...@gmail.com  
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 12:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

 

I tend to just do the same thing on the widgets screen as I do on any other 
home page. In particular, I use the actions and flick down until I hear edit. 
After double tapping, I find the widget I want to remove and then flick down to 
delete.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

 

I just figured out how to remkve ones you have added. 

After the last widget, activate the edit button. Then, at the bottom of all 
that, activate the customize button.

Then, touch the asp you want to move or remove, and flick up or down with one 
finger. You will have remove, move up or move down depending on its position.

Talk about making something more complicated.

I'm not suoe I would ever want widgets on my main screen as they are wider and 
taller than standard app cons and will move apps you have onto the following 
screens.

My wife described them as about 1.25 inches tall, and most of the width of the 
screen.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

On Sep 19, 2020, at 5:09 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:

Yes I tried removing several widgets from Page0, but they might have changed 
how it’s done? I’d like to take out the Stock widget from there especially, but 
don’t get how with iOS14. Any ideas?
About my original question of moving widgets from Page0 to our Home screen, 
maybe not all widgets can be moved. If the widget doesn’t appear within Add 
Widget while editing the screen, that’s what I assumed too.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 19 sep 2020, a la(s) 12:07 a.m., chalt...@gmail.com escribió:

 

I'm not sure, but I played around with this a bit this afternoon, and from 
what I can tell not every widget can be placed on a home page. I ended up just 
treating these as two separate tasks. What I mean is I went into edit mode on 
my home page and then I used the button at the top to select the widgets I 
wanted on my first home page. Once I got the widgets I wanted, I then went to 
the page before the first home page and removed the widgets I no longer needed 
on that page. The widgets I ended up selecting were of the small variety, and 
it looks like they take up a two by two grid on the home page. I ended up just 
settlin

Re: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

[Gerardo Corripio]

No problems here either with the Share sheet.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 20 sep 2020, a la(s) 11:04 a.m., Mary Otten  escribió:
> 
> 
> I have not had any problem with the share sheet. I use it a lot. Somebody I 
> know reported this during the beta cycle, and then it was fixed for them. I 
> never had the problem. Thank God, there are enough other ones.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2020, at 7:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Have others found that in iOS 14 the Today screen and also some other 
>> screens like the Share sheet which comes up if you for example Share a news 
>> article are very difficult and sometimes impossible to navigate? It seems 
>> Voiceover gets stuck on some item and no matter what you do that is where it 
>> stays, swiping left or right ant doesn't do anything, you can sometimes 
>> touch the screen somewhere else to get out of that, but it's quite annoying. 
>> The same happens if, for example, I swipe left from the first email into the 
>> search field at the top of Mail or Messages, then I can't swipe right to get 
>> out of it any more.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> chalt...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 1:45 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?
>>  
>> An even easier way to remove a widget from the screen of widgets is to just 
>> bring up the context menu with a triple tap on the widget and then double 
>> tap on remove widget.
>>  
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Gmail
>>  
>> From: chalt...@gmail.com  
>> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 12:56 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?
>>  
>> I tend to just do the same thing on the widgets screen as I do on any other 
>> home page. In particular, I use the actions and flick down until I hear 
>> edit. After double tapping, I find the widget I want to remove and then 
>> flick down to delete.
>>  
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Gmail
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 8:07 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?
>>  
>> I just figured out how to remkve ones you have added.
>> After the last widget, activate the edit button. Then, at the bottom of all 
>> that, activate the customize button.
>> Then, touch the asp you want to move or remove, and flick up or down with 
>> one finger. You will have remove, move up or move down depending on its 
>> position.
>> Talk about making something more complicated.
>> I'm not suoe I would ever want widgets on my main screen as they are wider 
>> and taller than standard app cons and will move apps you have onto the 
>> following screens.
>> My wife described them as about 1.25 inches tall, and most of the width of 
>> the screen.
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
>> Herbert
>>  
>> 
>> On Sep 19, 2020, at 5:09 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes I tried removing several widgets from Page0, but they might have 
>> changed how it’s done? I’d like to take out the Stock widget from there 
>> especially, but don’t get how with iOS14. Any ideas?
>> About my original question of moving widgets from Page0 to our Home screen, 
>> maybe not all widgets can be moved. If the widget doesn’t appear within Add 
>> Widget while editing the screen, that’s what I assumed too.
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>> 
>> El 19 sep 2020, a la(s) 12:07 a.m., chalt...@gmail.com escribió:
>>  
>> I'm not sure, but I played around with this a bit this afternoon, and from 
>> what I can tell not every widget can be placed on a home page. I ended up 
>> just treating these as two separate tasks. What I mean is I went into edit 
>> mode on my home page and then I used the button at the top to select the 
>> widgets I wanted on my first home page. Once I got the widgets I wanted, I 
>> then went to the page before the f

RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

[chaltain]

I’ve run into this as well, but I’ve only noticed it when moving around the 
first screen dedicated to the widgets. I agree it’s the most annoying thing 
I’ve run into with IOS 14 so far. I’ll also be reporting this to Apple.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 9:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

 

OK, I'll try and find the time to phrase this properly and give exact examples 
as to how to reproduce this and send it to Apple Accessibility.

So far this is definitely the most annoying issue for me with iOS 14.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

 

I have certainly found this VO getting stuck to be an issue in settings, your 
account, media and purchases.

I’ve noticed it a few other places, but I did a screen recording in settings 
and submitted it through the beta feedback app.

This could be a show stopper for many people.

Even if I touched farther down the screen to try exploring the screen, and then 
flicked right, boom, I’m back on my apple ID at the top.

Stupidly annoying and something that I sure hope is fixed when they release 
14.1 or whatever will be next.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

 

Have others found that in iOS 14 the Today screen and also some other screens 
like the Share sheet which comes up if you for example Share a news article are 
very difficult and sometimes impossible to navigate? It seems Voiceover gets 
stuck on some item and no matter what you do that is where it stays, swiping 
left or right ant doesn't do anything, you can sometimes touch the screen 
somewhere else to get out of that, but it's quite annoying. The same happens 
if, for example, I swipe left from the first email into the search field at the 
top of Mail or Messages, then I can't swipe right to get out of it any more.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 1:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

 

An even easier way to remove a widget from the screen of widgets is to just 
bring up the context menu with a triple tap on the widget and then double tap 
on remove widget.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>  mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > 
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 12:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

 

I tend to just do the same thing on the widgets screen as I do on any other 
home page. In particular, I use the actions and flick down until I hear edit. 
After double tapping, I find the widget I want to remove and then flick down to 
delete.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

 

I just figured out how to remkve ones you have added. 

After the last widget, activate the edit button. Then, at the bottom of all 
that, activate the customize button.

Then, touch the asp you want to move or remove, and flick up or down with one 
finger. You will have remove, move up or move down depending on its position.

Talk about making something more complicated.

I'm not suoe I would ever want widgets on my main screen as they are wider and 
taller than standard app cons and will move apps you have onto the following 
screens.

My wife described them as about 1.25 inches tall, and most of the width of the 
screen.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge

Re: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

[Mary Otten]

I have not had any problem with the share sheet. I use it a lot. Somebody I 
know reported this during the beta cycle, and then it was fixed for them. I 
never had the problem. Thank God, there are enough other ones.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 20, 2020, at 7:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Have others found that in iOS 14 the Today screen and also some other screens 
> like the Share sheet which comes up if you for example Share a news article 
> are very difficult and sometimes impossible to navigate? It seems Voiceover 
> gets stuck on some item and no matter what you do that is where it stays, 
> swiping left or right ant doesn't do anything, you can sometimes touch the 
> screen somewhere else to get out of that, but it's quite annoying. The same 
> happens if, for example, I swipe left from the first email into the search 
> field at the top of Mail or Messages, then I can't swipe right to get out of 
> it any more.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> chalt...@gmail.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 1:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?
>  
> An even easier way to remove a widget from the screen of widgets is to just 
> bring up the context menu with a triple tap on the widget and then double tap 
> on remove widget.
>  
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
>  
> From: chalt...@gmail.com  
> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 12:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?
>  
> I tend to just do the same thing on the widgets screen as I do on any other 
> home page. In particular, I use the actions and flick down until I hear edit. 
> After double tapping, I find the widget I want to remove and then flick down 
> to delete.
>  
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 8:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?
>  
> I just figured out how to remkve ones you have added.
> After the last widget, activate the edit button. Then, at the bottom of all 
> that, activate the customize button.
> Then, touch the asp you want to move or remove, and flick up or down with one 
> finger. You will have remove, move up or move down depending on its position.
> Talk about making something more complicated.
> I'm not suoe I would ever want widgets on my main screen as they are wider 
> and taller than standard app cons and will move apps you have onto the 
> following screens.
> My wife described them as about 1.25 inches tall, and most of the width of 
> the screen.
>  
> 
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
>  
> 
> On Sep 19, 2020, at 5:09 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> Yes I tried removing several widgets from Page0, but they might have changed 
> how it’s done? I’d like to take out the Stock widget from there especially, 
> but don’t get how with iOS14. Any ideas?
> About my original question of moving widgets from Page0 to our Home screen, 
> maybe not all widgets can be moved. If the widget doesn’t appear within Add 
> Widget while editing the screen, that’s what I assumed too.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
> 
> El 19 sep 2020, a la(s) 12:07 a.m., chalt...@gmail.com escribió:
>  
> I'm not sure, but I played around with this a bit this afternoon, and from 
> what I can tell not every widget can be placed on a home page. I ended up 
> just treating these as two separate tasks. What I mean is I went into edit 
> mode on my home page and then I used the button at the top to select the 
> widgets I wanted on my first home page. Once I got the widgets I wanted, I 
> then went to the page before the first home page and removed the widgets I no 
> longer needed on that page. The widgets I ended up selecting were of the 
> small variety, and it looks like they take up a two by two grid on the home 
> page. I ended up just settling on three widgets, so I still had space for my 
> most frequently used apps. I'm thinking that this plus the use of the apps 
> library will make for a pretty efficient arrangement.
>  
> Note that the stacked widgets are interesting. They're like six widgets in 
> one. You can edit them to delete widgets you don't want on the stack and 
&g

RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

OK, I'll try and find the time to phrase this properly and give exact examples 
as to how to reproduce this and send it to Apple Accessibility.
So far this is definitely the most annoying issue for me with iOS 14.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

I have certainly found this VO getting stuck to be an issue in settings, your 
account, media and purchases.
I’ve noticed it a few other places, but I did a screen recording in settings 
and submitted it through the beta feedback app.
This could be a show stopper for many people.
Even if I touched farther down the screen to try exploring the screen, and then 
flicked right, boom, I’m back on my apple ID at the top.
Stupidly annoying and something that I sure hope is fixed when they release 
14.1 or whatever will be next.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

Have others found that in iOS 14 the Today screen and also some other screens 
like the Share sheet which comes up if you for example Share a news article are 
very difficult and sometimes impossible to navigate? It seems Voiceover gets 
stuck on some item and no matter what you do that is where it stays, swiping 
left or right ant doesn't do anything, you can sometimes touch the screen 
somewhere else to get out of that, but it's quite annoying. The same happens 
if, for example, I swipe left from the first email into the search field at the 
top of Mail or Messages, then I can't swipe right to get out of it any more.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 1:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

An even easier way to remove a widget from the screen of widgets is to just 
bring up the context menu with a triple tap on the widget and then double tap 
on remove widget.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

From: chalt...@gmail.com<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> 
mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 12:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

I tend to just do the same thing on the widgets screen as I do on any other 
home page. In particular, I use the actions and flick down until I hear edit. 
After double tapping, I find the widget I want to remove and then flick down to 
delete.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

I just figured out how to remkve ones you have added.
After the last widget, activate the edit button. Then, at the bottom of all 
that, activate the customize button.
Then, touch the asp you want to move or remove, and flick up or down with one 
finger. You will have remove, move up or move down depending on its position.
Talk about making something more complicated.
I'm not suoe I would ever want widgets on my main screen as they are wider and 
taller than standard app cons and will move apps you have onto the following 
screens.
My wife described them as about 1.25 inches tall, and most of the width of the 
screen.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 19, 2020, at 5:09 AM, Gerardo Corripio 
mailto:gera1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yes I tried removing several widgets from Page0, but they might have changed 
how it’s done? I’d like to take out the Stock widget from there especially, but 
don’t get how with iOS14. Any ideas?
About my original question of moving widgets from Page0 to our Home screen, 
maybe not all widgets can be moved. If the widget doesn’t appear within Add 
Widget while editing the screen, that’s what I assumed too.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Gene

RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

[Richard Turner]

I have certainly found this VO getting stuck to be an issue in settings, your 
account, media and purchases.
I’ve noticed it a few other places, but I did a screen recording in settings 
and submitted it through the beta feedback app.
This could be a show stopper for many people.
Even if I touched farther down the screen to try exploring the screen, and then 
flicked right, boom, I’m back on my apple ID at the top.
Stupidly annoying and something that I sure hope is fixed when they release 
14.1 or whatever will be next.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

Have others found that in iOS 14 the Today screen and also some other screens 
like the Share sheet which comes up if you for example Share a news article are 
very difficult and sometimes impossible to navigate? It seems Voiceover gets 
stuck on some item and no matter what you do that is where it stays, swiping 
left or right ant doesn't do anything, you can sometimes touch the screen 
somewhere else to get out of that, but it's quite annoying. The same happens 
if, for example, I swipe left from the first email into the search field at the 
top of Mail or Messages, then I can't swipe right to get out of it any more.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 1:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

An even easier way to remove a widget from the screen of widgets is to just 
bring up the context menu with a triple tap on the widget and then double tap 
on remove widget.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

From: chalt...@gmail.com<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> 
mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 12:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

I tend to just do the same thing on the widgets screen as I do on any other 
home page. In particular, I use the actions and flick down until I hear edit. 
After double tapping, I find the widget I want to remove and then flick down to 
delete.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

I just figured out how to remkve ones you have added.
After the last widget, activate the edit button. Then, at the bottom of all 
that, activate the customize button.
Then, touch the asp you want to move or remove, and flick up or down with one 
finger. You will have remove, move up or move down depending on its position.
Talk about making something more complicated.
I'm not suoe I would ever want widgets on my main screen as they are wider and 
taller than standard app cons and will move apps you have onto the following 
screens.
My wife described them as about 1.25 inches tall, and most of the width of the 
screen.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 19, 2020, at 5:09 AM, Gerardo Corripio 
mailto:gera1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yes I tried removing several widgets from Page0, but they might have changed 
how it’s done? I’d like to take out the Stock widget from there especially, but 
don’t get how with iOS14. Any ideas?
About my original question of moving widgets from Page0 to our Home screen, 
maybe not all widgets can be moved. If the widget doesn’t appear within Add 
Widget while editing the screen, that’s what I assumed too.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
El 19 sep 2020, a la(s) 12:07 a.m., 
chalt...@gmail.com<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> escribió:

I'm not sure, but I played around with this a bit this afternoon, and from 
what I can tell not every widget can be placed on a home page. I ended up just 
treating these as two separate tasks. What I mean is I went into edit mode on 
my home page and then I used the button at the top to sele

RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Have others found that in iOS 14 the Today screen and also some other screens 
like the Share sheet which comes up if you for example Share a news article are 
very difficult and sometimes impossible to navigate? It seems Voiceover gets 
stuck on some item and no matter what you do that is where it stays, swiping 
left or right ant doesn't do anything, you can sometimes touch the screen 
somewhere else to get out of that, but it's quite annoying. The same happens 
if, for example, I swipe left from the first email into the search field at the 
top of Mail or Messages, then I can't swipe right to get out of it any more.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 1:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

An even easier way to remove a widget from the screen of widgets is to just 
bring up the context menu with a triple tap on the widget and then double tap 
on remove widget.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

From: chalt...@gmail.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 12:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

I tend to just do the same thing on the widgets screen as I do on any other 
home page. In particular, I use the actions and flick down until I hear edit. 
After double tapping, I find the widget I want to remove and then flick down to 
delete.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

I just figured out how to remkve ones you have added.
After the last widget, activate the edit button. Then, at the bottom of all 
that, activate the customize button.
Then, touch the asp you want to move or remove, and flick up or down with one 
finger. You will have remove, move up or move down depending on its position.
Talk about making something more complicated.
I'm not suoe I would ever want widgets on my main screen as they are wider and 
taller than standard app cons and will move apps you have onto the following 
screens.
My wife described them as about 1.25 inches tall, and most of the width of the 
screen.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 19, 2020, at 5:09 AM, Gerardo Corripio 
mailto:gera1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yes I tried removing several widgets from Page0, but they might have changed 
how it’s done? I’d like to take out the Stock widget from there especially, but 
don’t get how with iOS14. Any ideas?
About my original question of moving widgets from Page0 to our Home screen, 
maybe not all widgets can be moved. If the widget doesn’t appear within Add 
Widget while editing the screen, that’s what I assumed too.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
El 19 sep 2020, a la(s) 12:07 a.m., 
chalt...@gmail.com<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> escribió:

I'm not sure, but I played around with this a bit this afternoon, and from 
what I can tell not every widget can be placed on a home page. I ended up just 
treating these as two separate tasks. What I mean is I went into edit mode on 
my home page and then I used the button at the top to select the widgets I 
wanted on my first home page. Once I got the widgets I wanted, I then went to 
the page before the first home page and removed the widgets I no longer needed 
on that page. The widgets I ended up selecting were of the small variety, and 
it looks like they take up a two by two grid on the home page. I ended up just 
settling on three widgets, so I still had space for my most frequently used 
apps. I'm thinking that this plus the use of the apps library will make for a 
pretty efficient arrangement.

Note that the stacked widgets are interesting. They're like six widgets in one. 
You can edit them to delete widgets you don't want on the stack and rearrange 
the ones that are left. You can then use the context menu to cycle through the 
widgets on the stack.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf
Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 8:59 PM
To: iPhone List mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

Hope you guys can make sense of what I?m trying to do: On what I’ll call Page 0
(what used to be Page1 before iOS14), I’ve several widgets (TuneIn R

RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

[chaltain]

An even easier way to remove a widget from the screen of widgets is to just 
bring up the context menu with a triple tap on the widget and then double tap 
on remove widget.

 

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From: chalt...@gmail.com  
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 12:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

 

I tend to just do the same thing on the widgets screen as I do on any other 
home page. In particular, I use the actions and flick down until I hear edit. 
After double tapping, I find the widget I want to remove and then flick down to 
delete.

 

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Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

 

I just figured out how to remkve ones you have added. 

After the last widget, activate the edit button. Then, at the bottom of all 
that, activate the customize button.

Then, touch the asp you want to move or remove, and flick up or down with one 
finger. You will have remove, move up or move down depending on its position.

Talk about making something more complicated.

I'm not suoe I would ever want widgets on my main screen as they are wider and 
taller than standard app cons and will move apps you have onto the following 
screens.

My wife described them as about 1.25 inches tall, and most of the width of the 
screen.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

On Sep 19, 2020, at 5:09 AM, Gerardo Corripio mailto:gera1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Yes I tried removing several widgets from Page0, but they might have changed 
how it’s done? I’d like to take out the Stock widget from there especially, but 
don’t get how with iOS14. Any ideas?
About my original question of moving widgets from Page0 to our Home screen, 
maybe not all widgets can be moved. If the widget doesn’t appear within Add 
Widget while editing the screen, that’s what I assumed too.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel



El 19 sep 2020, a la(s) 12:07 a.m., chalt...@gmail.com 
<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>  escribió:

 

I'm not sure, but I played around with this a bit this afternoon, and from 
what I can tell not every widget can be placed on a home page. I ended up just 
treating these as two separate tasks. What I mean is I went into edit mode on 
my home page and then I used the button at the top to select the widgets I 
wanted on my first home page. Once I got the widgets I wanted, I then went to 
the page before the first home page and removed the widgets I no longer needed 
on that page. The widgets I ended up selecting were of the small variety, and 
it looks like they take up a two by two grid on the home page. I ended up just 
settling on three widgets, so I still had space for my most frequently used 
apps. I'm thinking that this plus the use of the apps library will make for a 
pretty efficient arrangement.

 

Note that the stacked widgets are interesting. They're like six widgets in one. 
You can edit them to delete widgets you don't want on the stack and rearrange 
the ones that are left. You can then use the context menu to cycle through the 
widgets on the stack.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf

Of Gerardo Corripio

Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 8:59 PM

To: iPhone List mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >

Subject: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

 

Hope you guys can make sense of what I?m trying to do: On what I’ll call Page 0

(what used to be Page1 before iOS14), I’ve several widgets (TuneIn Radio,

Google News), that I want to somehow drag from Page0 to Page 2, but these

don’t move! I try flicking up or down, but no actions rotor. Can’t these widgets

not be moved? Because hwen I go to Add Widgets on Page2, from within the

editing area in which one can move icons around, the widgets that I?m wanting

to move from Page0 to Page2, don’t appear within the Widgets list!

What’s going on then? Thanks for info.

 

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

 

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RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

[chaltain]

I tend to just do the same thing on the widgets screen as I do on any other 
home page. In particular, I use the actions and flick down until I hear edit. 
After double tapping, I find the widget I want to remove and then flick down to 
delete.

 

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Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

 

I just figured out how to remkve ones you have added. 

After the last widget, activate the edit button. Then, at the bottom of all 
that, activate the customize button.

Then, touch the asp you want to move or remove, and flick up or down with one 
finger. You will have remove, move up or move down depending on its position.

Talk about making something more complicated.

I'm not suoe I would ever want widgets on my main screen as they are wider and 
taller than standard app cons and will move apps you have onto the following 
screens.

My wife described them as about 1.25 inches tall, and most of the width of the 
screen.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert





On Sep 19, 2020, at 5:09 AM, Gerardo Corripio mailto:gera1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Yes I tried removing several widgets from Page0, but they might have changed 
how it’s done? I’d like to take out the Stock widget from there especially, but 
don’t get how with iOS14. Any ideas?
About my original question of moving widgets from Page0 to our Home screen, 
maybe not all widgets can be moved. If the widget doesn’t appear within Add 
Widget while editing the screen, that’s what I assumed too.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel




El 19 sep 2020, a la(s) 12:07 a.m., chalt...@gmail.com 
<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>  escribió:

 

I'm not sure, but I played around with this a bit this afternoon, and from 
what I can tell not every widget can be placed on a home page. I ended up just 
treating these as two separate tasks. What I mean is I went into edit mode on 
my home page and then I used the button at the top to select the widgets I 
wanted on my first home page. Once I got the widgets I wanted, I then went to 
the page before the first home page and removed the widgets I no longer needed 
on that page. The widgets I ended up selecting were of the small variety, and 
it looks like they take up a two by two grid on the home page. I ended up just 
settling on three widgets, so I still had space for my most frequently used 
apps. I'm thinking that this plus the use of the apps library will make for a 
pretty efficient arrangement.

 

Note that the stacked widgets are interesting. They're like six widgets in one. 
You can edit them to delete widgets you don't want on the stack and rearrange 
the ones that are left. You can then use the context menu to cycle through the 
widgets on the stack.

 

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Chaltain at Gmail

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf

Of Gerardo Corripio

Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 8:59 PM

To: iPhone List mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >

Subject: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

 

Hope you guys can make sense of what I?m trying to do: On what I’ll call Page 0

(what used to be Page1 before iOS14), I’ve several widgets (TuneIn Radio,

Google News), that I want to somehow drag from Page0 to Page 2, but these

don’t move! I try flicking up or down, but no actions rotor. Can’t these widgets

not be moved? Because hwen I go to Add Widgets on Page2, from within the

editing area in which one can move icons around, the widgets that I?m wanting

to move from Page0 to Page2, don’t appear within the Widgets list!

What’s going on then? Thanks for info.

 

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

 

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RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

[Richard Turner]

I only did this at first, to see if I could figure out the mystery of them.
I most certainly don’t want them on my home screen.
But, I will keep a few on the screen formerly known as Today.
I have a Bluetooth meat probe made by Weber, the iGrill Mini.  Having the 
widget on that screen will make it much easier to track the progress of meat on 
the Foreman or in the oven.
Our bank app can give us a quick way to check balances there.
For my wife, Google Maps has a traffic widget so at a glance she can see what’s 
happening with the traffic.

Very slick.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

Hi Richard,

I have to agree that the process for managing widgets on screen 0 is less than 
intuitive. Thanks for posting this explanation.

I'll admit that I've never been a big fan of widgets and I definitely will not 
be moving any to my home screens whether they are stackable or not.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
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Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 8:06:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

I just figured out how to remkve ones you have added.
After the last widget, activate the edit button. Then, at the bottom of all 
that, activate the customize button.
Then, touch the asp you want to move or remove, and flick up or down with one 
finger. You will have remove, move up or move down depending on its position.
Talk about making something more complicated.
I'm not suoe I would ever want widgets on my main screen as they are wider and 
taller than standard app cons and will move apps you have onto the following 
screens.
My wife described them as about 1.25 inches tall, and most of the width of the 
screen.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Sep 19, 2020, at 5:09 AM, Gerardo Corripio 
mailto:gera1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yes I tried removing several widgets from Page0, but they might have changed 
how it’s done? I’d like to take out the Stock widget from there especially, but 
don’t get how with iOS14. Any ideas?
About my original question of moving widgets from Page0 to our Home screen, 
maybe not all widgets can be moved. If the widget doesn’t appear within Add 
Widget while editing the screen, that’s what I assumed too.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel


El 19 sep 2020, a la(s) 12:07 a.m., 
chalt...@gmail.com<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> escribió:

I'm not sure, but I played around with this a bit this afternoon, and from 
what I can tell not every widget can be placed on a home page. I ended up just 
treating these as two separate tasks. What I mean is I went into edit mode on 
my home page and then I used the button at the top to select the widgets I 
wanted on my first home page. Once I got the widgets I wanted, I then went to 
the page before the first home page and removed the widgets I no longer needed 
on that page. The widgets I ended up selecting were of the small variety, and 
it looks like they take up a two by two grid on the home page. I ended up just 
settling on three widgets, so I still had space for my most frequently used 
apps. I'm thinking that this plus the use of the apps library will make for a 
pretty efficient arrangement.

Note that the stacked widgets are interesting. They're like six widgets in one. 
You can edit them to delete widgets you don't want on the stack and rearrange 
the ones that are left. You can then use the context menu to cycle through the 
widgets on the stack.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf
Of Gerardo 

Re: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Richard,

I have to agree that the process for managing widgets on screen 0 is less than 
intuitive. Thanks for posting this explanation.

I'll admit that I've never been a big fan of widgets and I definitely will not 
be moving any to my home screens whether they are stackable or not.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Richard 
Turner 
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 8:06:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

I just figured out how to remkve ones you have added.
After the last widget, activate the edit button. Then, at the bottom of all 
that, activate the customize button.
Then, touch the asp you want to move or remove, and flick up or down with one 
finger. You will have remove, move up or move down depending on its position.
Talk about making something more complicated.
I'm not suoe I would ever want widgets on my main screen as they are wider and 
taller than standard app cons and will move apps you have onto the following 
screens.
My wife described them as about 1.25 inches tall, and most of the width of the 
screen.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 19, 2020, at 5:09 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:

Yes I tried removing several widgets from Page0, but they might have changed 
how it’s done? I’d like to take out the Stock widget from there especially, but 
don’t get how with iOS14. Any ideas?
About my original question of moving widgets from Page0 to our Home screen, 
maybe not all widgets can be moved. If the widget doesn’t appear within Add 
Widget while editing the screen, that’s what I assumed too.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 19 sep 2020, a la(s) 12:07 a.m., chalt...@gmail.com escribió:

I'm not sure, but I played around with this a bit this afternoon, and from 
what I can tell not every widget can be placed on a home page. I ended up just 
treating these as two separate tasks. What I mean is I went into edit mode on 
my home page and then I used the button at the top to select the widgets I 
wanted on my first home page. Once I got the widgets I wanted, I then went to 
the page before the first home page and removed the widgets I no longer needed 
on that page. The widgets I ended up selecting were of the small variety, and 
it looks like they take up a two by two grid on the home page. I ended up just 
settling on three widgets, so I still had space for my most frequently used 
apps. I'm thinking that this plus the use of the apps library will make for a 
pretty efficient arrangement.

Note that the stacked widgets are interesting. They're like six widgets in one. 
You can edit them to delete widgets you don't want on the stack and rearrange 
the ones that are left. You can then use the context menu to cycle through the 
widgets on the stack.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 8:59 PM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

Hope you guys can make sense of what I?m trying to do: On what I’ll call Page 0
(what used to be Page1 before iOS14), I’ve several widgets (TuneIn Radio,
Google News), that I want to somehow drag from Page0 to Page 2, but these
don’t move! I try flicking up or down, but no actions rotor. Can’t these widgets
not be moved? Because hwen I go to Add Widgets on Page2, from within the
editing area in which one can move icons around, the widgets that I?m wanting
to move from Page0 to Page2, don’t appear within the Widgets list!
What’s going on then? Thanks for info.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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Re: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

[Richard Turner]

I just figured out how to remkve ones you have added.
After the last widget, activate the edit button. Then, at the bottom of all 
that, activate the customize button.
Then, touch the asp you want to move or remove, and flick up or down with one 
finger. You will have remove, move up or move down depending on its position.
Talk about making something more complicated.
I'm not suoe I would ever want widgets on my main screen as they are wider and 
taller than standard app cons and will move apps you have onto the following 
screens.
My wife described them as about 1.25 inches tall, and most of the width of the 
screen.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 19, 2020, at 5:09 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:

Yes I tried removing several widgets from Page0, but they might have changed 
how it’s done? I’d like to take out the Stock widget from there especially, but 
don’t get how with iOS14. Any ideas?
About my original question of moving widgets from Page0 to our Home screen, 
maybe not all widgets can be moved. If the widget doesn’t appear within Add 
Widget while editing the screen, that’s what I assumed too.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 19 sep 2020, a la(s) 12:07 a.m., chalt...@gmail.com escribió:

I'm not sure, but I played around with this a bit this afternoon, and from 
what I can tell not every widget can be placed on a home page. I ended up just 
treating these as two separate tasks. What I mean is I went into edit mode on 
my home page and then I used the button at the top to select the widgets I 
wanted on my first home page. Once I got the widgets I wanted, I then went to 
the page before the first home page and removed the widgets I no longer needed 
on that page. The widgets I ended up selecting were of the small variety, and 
it looks like they take up a two by two grid on the home page. I ended up just 
settling on three widgets, so I still had space for my most frequently used 
apps. I'm thinking that this plus the use of the apps library will make for a 
pretty efficient arrangement.

Note that the stacked widgets are interesting. They're like six widgets in one. 
You can edit them to delete widgets you don't want on the stack and rearrange 
the ones that are left. You can then use the context menu to cycle through the 
widgets on the stack.

--
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Chaltain at Gmail

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 8:59 PM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

Hope you guys can make sense of what I?m trying to do: On what I’ll call Page 0
(what used to be Page1 before iOS14), I’ve several widgets (TuneIn Radio,
Google News), that I want to somehow drag from Page0 to Page 2, but these
don’t move! I try flicking up or down, but no actions rotor. Can’t these widgets
not be moved? Because hwen I go to Add Widgets on Page2, from within the
editing area in which one can move icons around, the widgets that I?m wanting
to move from Page0 to Page2, don’t appear within the Widgets list!
What’s going on then? Thanks for info.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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Re: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

[Gerardo Corripio]

Yes I tried removing several widgets from Page0, but they might have changed 
how it’s done? I’d like to take out the Stock widget from there especially, but 
don’t get how with iOS14. Any ideas?
About my original question of moving widgets from Page0 to our Home screen, 
maybe not all widgets can be moved. If the widget doesn’t appear within Add 
Widget while editing the screen, that’s what I assumed too.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 19 sep 2020, a la(s) 12:07 a.m., chalt...@gmail.com escribió:
> 
> I'm not sure, but I played around with this a bit this afternoon, and from 
> what I can tell not every widget can be placed on a home page. I ended up 
> just treating these as two separate tasks. What I mean is I went into edit 
> mode on my home page and then I used the button at the top to select the 
> widgets I wanted on my first home page. Once I got the widgets I wanted, I 
> then went to the page before the first home page and removed the widgets I no 
> longer needed on that page. The widgets I ended up selecting were of the 
> small variety, and it looks like they take up a two by two grid on the home 
> page. I ended up just settling on three widgets, so I still had space for my 
> most frequently used apps. I'm thinking that this plus the use of the apps 
> library will make for a pretty efficient arrangement.
> 
> Note that the stacked widgets are interesting. They're like six widgets in 
> one. You can edit them to delete widgets you don't want on the stack and 
> rearrange the ones that are left. You can then use the context menu to cycle 
> through the widgets on the stack.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Gerardo Corripio
>> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 8:59 PM
>> To: iPhone List 
>> Subject: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?
>> 
>> Hope you guys can make sense of what I?m trying to do: On what I’ll call 
>> Page 0
>> (what used to be Page1 before iOS14), I’ve several widgets (TuneIn Radio,
>> Google News), that I want to somehow drag from Page0 to Page 2, but these
>> don’t move! I try flicking up or down, but no actions rotor. Can’t these 
>> widgets
>> not be moved? Because hwen I go to Add Widgets on Page2, from within the
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>> to move from Page0 to Page2, don’t appear within the Widgets list!
>> What’s going on then? Thanks for info.
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RE: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

[chaltain]

I'm not sure, but I played around with this a bit this afternoon, and from what 
I can tell not every widget can be placed on a home page. I ended up just 
treating these as two separate tasks. What I mean is I went into edit mode on 
my home page and then I used the button at the top to select the widgets I 
wanted on my first home page. Once I got the widgets I wanted, I then went to 
the page before the first home page and removed the widgets I no longer needed 
on that page. The widgets I ended up selecting were of the small variety, and 
it looks like they take up a two by two grid on the home page. I ended up just 
settling on three widgets, so I still had space for my most frequently used 
apps. I'm thinking that this plus the use of the apps library will make for a 
pretty efficient arrangement.

Note that the stacked widgets are interesting. They're like six widgets in one. 
You can edit them to delete widgets you don't want on the stack and rearrange 
the ones that are left. You can then use the context menu to cycle through the 
widgets on the stack.

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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
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> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 8:59 PM
> To: iPhone List 
> Subject: Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?
> 
> Hope you guys can make sense of what I?m trying to do: On what I’ll call Page > 0
> (what used to be Page1 before iOS14), I’ve several widgets (TuneIn Radio,
> Google News), that I want to somehow drag from Page0 to Page 2, but these
> don’t move! I try flicking up or down, but no actions rotor. Can’t these 
> widgets
> not be moved? Because hwen I go to Add Widgets on Page2, from within the
> editing area in which one can move icons around, the widgets that I?m wanting
> to move from Page0 to Page2, don’t appear within the Widgets list!
> What’s going on then? Thanks for info.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
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Can’t move Widgets on Page0 to other pages?

[Gerardo Corripio]

Hope you guys can make sense of what I?m trying to do: On what I’ll call Page 0 
(what used to be Page1 before iOS14), I’ve several widgets (TuneIn Radio, 
Google News), that I want to somehow drag from Page0 to Page 2, but these don’t 
move! I try flicking up or down, but no actions rotor. Can’t these widgets not 
be moved? Because hwen I go to Add Widgets on Page2, from within the editing 
area in which one can move icons around, the widgets that I?m wanting to move 
from Page0 to Page2, don’t appear within the Widgets list!
What’s going on then? Thanks for info.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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Ios 14 and the pages on your phone

[Casey]

Before upgrading to ios 14 the pates like the selection to choose what 
page you go to.


Was on the left of your screen just above the phone in your dock.

Now when i upgraded it is moved over is that the way it is now or can 
you put this back and if so how?


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Re: Can My iPhone8 Scan Two Pages of My Passport As *.pdf File With Sighted Assistance?

[Richard Turner]

If you are not trying to get both pages at once, you could do it by yourself 
with Voice Dream Scanner.
To scan to PDF, you need some kind of scanning app.
Voice Dream Scanner is $5.99.




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On Jan 17, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Fazil  wrote:


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Can My iPhone8 Scan Two Pages of My Passport As *.pdf File With Sighted Assistance?

[Fazil]

Hi, list.

Can My iPhone8 Scan Two Pages of My Passport As *.pdf File With Sighted
Assistance?

If yes, what should I ask the sight person to do, please?

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Re: Deleting messages from the facebook pages app

[Donna]

Ok, try this..Find your post, just past your name there is a Nore button, tap 
on More, a list of options will appear, one of which is delete post, tap delete 
& confirm that you want to delete the post. If this doesn’t work, Im at a loss. 

Donna
> 
> have tried your  method Donna but it doesn't seem to work probably missing 
> something obvious but can't work out what Janet
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> Find your message, use 1 finger & double tap, a menu list will show up, one 
> of the options in the list is delete post.  This is how to remove a post 
> using the facebook app.
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> Donna
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Can you delete messages from the Facebook pages app.  How do you do this 
>> since it is not the same procedure as regular messenger.
>> Jen
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Re: Deleting messages from the facebook pages app

[Janet Bell]

have tried your  method Donna but it doesn't seem to work probably missing 
something obvious but can't work out what Janet


-Original Message- 
From: Donna

Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Deleting messages from the facebook pages app

Find your message, use 1 finger & double tap, a menu list will show up, one 
of the options in the list is delete post.  This is how to remove a post 
using the facebook app.


Donna


Hi,
Can you delete messages from the Facebook pages app.  How do you do this 
since it is not the same procedure as regular messenger.

Jen

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Re: Deleting messages from the facebook pages app

[Donna]

Find your message, use 1 finger & double tap, a menu list will show up, one of 
the options in the list is delete post.  This is how to remove a post using the 
facebook app. 

Donna
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> since it is not the same procedure as regular messenger.
> Jen
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Deleting messages from the facebook pages app

[Jen .]

Hi,
Can you delete messages from the Facebook pages app.  How do you do this since 
it is not the same procedure as regular messenger.
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Publish your book with Pages - Apple Support

[M. Taylor]

Publish your book with Pages
Publish your book directly to Apple Books from Pages on your iPad, iPhone,
Mac, or online at iCloud.com.
 
With Pages, you can create a book, then publish it directly to the store in
Apple Books. You can customize your book during the publishing process: add
a cover, set your price or offer it for free, add tags to specify age groups
or subjects, set up a pre-order, customize availability by date and country,
and more. You can also update an already submitted book.
Here's what you need

For Pages on your Apple device, here's what you need:
.   macOS High Sierra or later and Pages 7.3 or later on your Mac
.   iOS 11 or later and Pages 4.3 or later on your iOS device
.   An iTunes Connect account for Apple Books

For Pages online at iCloud.com, here's what you need:
.   Safari 9 or later, or Google Chrome 50 or later for your Mac
.   Internet Explorer 11 or later, or Google Chrome 50 or later for your
Windows PC
.   An iTunes Connect account for Apple Books
 
Prepare to publish your book
Before you publish your book, check this list to make sure your book is
ready to be published.
.   Use paragraph styles in your Pages document, so your book formats
correctly when published.
.   Save your book in the Pages folder in iCloud Drive. If you're not
using iCloud Drive, set up iCloud on all of your devices and turn on iCloud
Drive.
.   Get your cover image ready* or plan to use the first page as the
cover. If you plan to publish with Pages on an iPhone or iPad, save the
image in iCloud Drive.
.   If you want to use an International Standard Book Number (ISBN-13)
for your book, which identifies books worldwide, have it ready. An ISBN-13
number can't be added after you publish your book.
.   To submit your book successfully, review the submission checklist in
the Apple Books Publisher User Guide before you try to publish.
* A cover image must be in PNG or JPEG format, and must be at least 1400
pixels on its shortest side.
 
Publish your book
To publish your book, open your document in Pages, provide seller and
version information, enter book information, preview and upload your book,
then finalize your submission.

Open your document in Pages
1.  Open the Pages document that you want to publish as a book.
2.  On iPad or iPhone, tap the More button  , then tap Publish to Apple
Books.On Mac, choose File > Publish to Apple Books.
Online at iCloud.com, click the Tools button  , then choose Publish to Apple
Books.
3.  Tap or click Continue, then sign in to iTunes Connect. If you've
never signed in, on Mac click Create iTunes Connect Account. On an iPad,
iPhone, or online at iCloud.com, sign up for an account.
4.  Tap or click Continue. Beyond this step, any changes you make to the
Pages document won't appear in the published book. If you need to stop the
publishing flow and make changes to the Pages document, just close the
publishing window.
Provide seller and version information
Next, choose the seller of the book and the version:
1.  If your iTunes Connect account has more than one seller, tap or
click the Seller pop-up menu, then choose a seller. All those listed in your
iTunes Connect account appear in the menu-choose any as the seller.
2.  If you're publishing this book for the first time, select "This is a
new book." You can also update a previously submitted book.
3.  Click Continue.
Provide book information
After you provide seller and version information, you can choose a layout
type for your book and enter other information about your book. Not every
field is required, but many fields can help readers find your book in the
Book Store. Here are some tips about the options on this page:
.   If your Pages document is a word-processing document, choose a
layout for your book. Choose Reflowable for books that are mostly text.
Choose Fixed for image-heavy or multi-column documents.
.   To add a subtitle or a series name, in the Title section click the
Add button  . If you're not using a subtitle or series name, click the
Remove button   to remove the field.
.   To add additional roles such as Editor, Illustrated by, Narrated by,
and more, tap or click the Add button   in the Author section, click the
Author pop-up menu, choose a role, then enter a name.
.   If your book is for minors, set an interest age. Or, tap or click
the Interest Age pop-up menu and choose one of the school grade options:
o   To set a minimum grade, set the first option only.
o   To set a maximum grade, set the second option only.
o   To set a grade range, set both options.
o   To set a specific grade, set both options to the same grade.
.   To set up a pre-order, tap or click the Pre-Order pop-up menu, then
choose Yes. To upload your book now, click the Upload Book pop-up menu and
choose Yes. After you upload your book, you'll add pricing, territory
information, and pre-order details in iTunes C

Re: safari not picking up modified web pages

[Donald Raikes]

Anna,

Thanks that worked!

On 5/30/19, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> Hi Donald,
>
> Open the Settings app, and choose Safari. The last item in the Privacy and
> Security section is the Clear History and Website Data button.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>
>
>> On May 30, 2019, at 4:15 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
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>> Hi,
>>
>> I am working on an internal website for some training, and I was
>> testing the pages on my IPhone 8.  After revamping the main webpage, I
>> tapped the reload button on safari, but it just keeps showing the old
>> version of the page.
>>
>> I opened the website in firefox and it is shows the new page.
>>
>> Is there any way to force safari to "forget" its browsing history?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Don
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Re: safari not picking up modified web pages

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Donald,

Open the Settings app, and choose Safari. The last item in the Privacy and 
Security section is the Clear History and Website Data button.

Best,
Anna




> On May 30, 2019, at 4:15 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am working on an internal website for some training, and I was
> testing the pages on my IPhone 8.  After revamping the main webpage, I
> tapped the reload button on safari, but it just keeps showing the old
> version of the page.
> 
> I opened the website in firefox and it is shows the new page.
> 
> Is there any way to force safari to "forget" its browsing history?
> 
> Thanks,
> Don
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safari not picking up modified web pages

[Donald Raikes]

Hi,

I am working on an internal website for some training, and I was
testing the pages on my IPhone 8.  After revamping the main webpage, I
tapped the reload button on safari, but it just keeps showing the old
version of the page.

I opened the website in firefox and it is shows the new page.

Is there any way to force safari to "forget" its browsing history?

Thanks,
Don

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Re: notifications from facebook pages

[l . d . ethier23]

Group is not the same thing than page

Lyne

> Le 18 août 2018 à 09:10, Sherrie Gosling  a écrit :
> 
> To set which group posts appear in your notifications do the following:
> Facebook menu tab, bottom right
> All shortcuts
> Groups
> Choose which group
> Group info
> Notifications
> Then it gives you choices suchh as all posts, friends posts, etc
>  
> Sherrie Gosling
>
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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> From: l.d.ethie...@gmail.com
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 10:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: notifications from facebook pages
>  
> Hi Jed,
> Sorry for my pore english... I hope I understand well but you just have to go 
> to the page you wish to be notify and search for subscribe  button and select 
> it and you will have more options.
> Hope is the good word in english but if not it's the button just after like.
>  
>  
> Lyne
>  
> > Le 17 août 2018 à 20:53, Jed Barton  a écrit :
> >
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > OK, so there are 2 pretty big pages on facebook that i follow.  Is
> > there any way with any of our apps, when i follow a particular page,
> > when someone posts on it i can get notified?  I've tried to find a
> > method to do this, but nothing.  Any ideas?
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RE: notifications from facebook pages

[Sherrie Gosling]

To set which group posts appear in your notifications do the following:
Facebook menu tab, bottom right
All shortcuts
Groups
Choose which group
Group info
Notifications
Then it gives you choices suchh as all posts, friends posts, etc

Sherrie Gosling


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From: l.d.ethie...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 10:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: notifications from facebook pages

Hi Jed,
Sorry for my pore english... I hope I understand well but you just have to go 
to the page you wish to be notify and search for subscribe  button and select 
it and you will have more options. 
Hope is the good word in english but if not it's the button just after like.


Lyne

> Le 17 août 2018 à 20:53, Jed Barton  a écrit :
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> OK, so there are 2 pretty big pages on facebook that i follow.  Is
> there any way with any of our apps, when i follow a particular page,
> when someone posts on it i can get notified?  I've tried to find a
> method to do this, but nothing.  Any ideas?
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Re: notifications from facebook pages

[l . d . ethier23]

Hi Jed,
Sorry for my pore english... I hope I understand well but you just have to go 
to the page you wish to be notify and search for subscribe  button and select 
it and you will have more options. 
Hope is the good word in english but if not it's the button just after like.


Lyne

> Le 17 août 2018 à 20:53, Jed Barton  a écrit :
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> OK, so there are 2 pretty big pages on facebook that i follow.  Is
> there any way with any of our apps, when i follow a particular page,
> when someone posts on it i can get notified?  I've tried to find a
> method to do this, but nothing.  Any ideas?
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notifications from facebook pages

[Jed Barton]

Hey guys,

OK, so there are 2 pretty big pages on facebook that i follow.  Is
there any way with any of our apps, when i follow a particular page,
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Re: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios only

[Kliphton Miller]

You can use these commands in any editing app, notes, pages, email, even text 
messaging.  And to go to the top and bottom of text, use control down arrow to 
go to bottom, and control up arrow to go to the beginning.
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> On May 24, 2018, at 11:19 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Selecting text with the keyboard with these commands only work if you are 
> editing.So, if in an Email that you are reading, you still have to use the 
> Text Selection, the same on a web page.
> I just tested it.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
> 
> On May 24, 2018, at 7:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca 
> <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
> 
>> Well, that is good to know. However, does this only work in Pages or can you 
>> also use it to select, copy or move text when composing an email, writing a 
>> note etc.? How about selecting text on a web page?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> Maria Reyes
>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 2:48 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching 
>> to ios only
>> 
>> 
>> So if you want to select text using a Bluetooth keyboard, you press option 
>> shift left, right, or up and down arrows. command o takes you to your 
>> document list, command v pastes. You obviously have your command b for bold 
>> and command i and u for italic and underline. 
>> 
>> Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2018, at 4:50 PM, Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net 
>>> <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Anouk,
>>> 
>>> Command-Up Arrow goes to the top, and Command-Down Arrow takes you to the 
>>> end.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On May 24, 2018, at 12:19 PM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:radix.an...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Anna, How can you move to the beginning and end of a document using 
>>>> pages? Can this be done through the keyboard or do you need the 
>>>> touchscreen for that?
>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>> 
>>>>> Op 24 mei 2018, om 19:05 heeft Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net 
>>>>> <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> het volgende geschreven:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Sieghard and all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just tried using a bluetooth keyboard in Pages. I was able to add Shift 
>>>>> to commands to select words, characters and lines. For some reason, the 
>>>>> commands for moving to the beginning and end of a line didn't work, so 
>>>>> neither did those selection commands, but the others worked fine.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Anna
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 24, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca 
>>>>>> <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There are commands for moving to the beginning or the end of a document, 
>>>>>> but you can't select text the way you do in Windows. I am not aS 
>>>>>> Pprofficient with bluetooth keyboard commands since all I use them for 
>>>>>> is typing long text, but as far as I know you still have to change the 
>>>>>> rotor to words if, for example, you want to go back a few words etc. I 
>>>>>> think you also need to use the rotor and the text selection set to 
>>>>>> characters, words or lines to select text, you can't just arrow up a few 
>>>>>> lines, press home to go to the beginning of a line and then hold down 
>>>>>> control+shift and arrow right to select a bunch of words, then use 
>>>>>> Control+c or Control+X to copy or move them etc. These are exactly the 
>>

Re: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios only

[Anouk Radix]

Great! Thanks,
Greetings,Anouk,

> Op 24 mei 2018, om 22:50 heeft Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> Hi Anouk,
> 
> Command-Up Arrow goes to the top, and Command-Down Arrow takes you to the end.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 24, 2018, at 12:19 PM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anna, How can you move to the beginning and end of a document using 
>> pages? Can this be done through the keyboard or do you need the touchscreen 
>> for that?
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>> 
>>> Op 24 mei 2018, om 19:05 heeft Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> het 
>>> volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sieghard and all,
>>> 
>>> I just tried using a bluetooth keyboard in Pages. I was able to add Shift 
>>> to commands to select words, characters and lines. For some reason, the 
>>> commands for moving to the beginning and end of a line didn't work, so 
>>> neither did those selection commands, but the others worked fine.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 24, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> There are commands for moving to the beginning or the end of a document, 
>>>> but you can't select text the way you do in Windows. I am not aS 
>>>> Pprofficient with bluetooth keyboard commands since all I use them for is 
>>>> typing long text, but as far as I know you still have to change the rotor 
>>>> to words if, for example, you want to go back a few words etc. I think you 
>>>> also need to use the rotor and the text selection set to characters, words 
>>>> or lines to select text, you can't just arrow up a few lines, press home 
>>>> to go to the beginning of a line and then hold down control+shift and 
>>>> arrow right to select a bunch of words, then use Control+c or Control+X to 
>>>> copy or move them etc. These are exactly the things people talk about when 
>>>> the topic of efficient word processing comes up. Sighted people have it a 
>>>> bit easier as they can pinch and stuff like that and see as they are doing 
>>>> it what is being selected and so on.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Anouk Radix
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:39 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to 
>>>> ios only
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if its possible with the bt keyboard 
>>>> and pages or word for ios to use shift+up or down arrow to select text (i 
>>>> know you can copy and paste with command+v and command+c). 
>>>> And if its possible to move to the beginning and the end of a document 
>>>> with command+up/command+down arrow?
>>>> Thanks in advance for any info,
>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>> 
>>>>> Op 23 mei 2018, om 16:58 heeft Candy Lowe <candyrl...@gmail.com> het 
>>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard 
>>>>> for when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on 
>>>>> the individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but 
>>>>> very seldom turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It 
>>>>> just depends on what you want to do.  
>>>>> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He 
>>>>> likes it better and he prefers the bigger screen.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it 
>>>>>> less and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not 
>>>>>> getting a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had 
>>>>>> laptops since 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a 
>>>>>> waste of money. Still its a big jump, are there people who have done 
>>>>>> this already and what are your experiences?
>>>>

Re: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios only

[Russ Kiehne]

Perhaps the following will help.  From the ios 11 users guide.

Use these commands (with Quick Nav turned off) to work with text. VoiceOver
reads the text as you move the insertion point.

Go forward or back one character:
Right Arrow or Left Arrow
Go forward or back one word:
Option–Right Arrow or Option–Left Arrow
Go up or down one line:
Up Arrow or Down Arrow
Go to the beginning or end of the line:
Command–Left Arrow or Command–Down Arrow
Go to the beginning or end of the paragraph:
Option–Up Arrow or Option–Down Arrow
Go to the previous or next paragraph:
Option–Up Arrow or Option–Down Arrow
Go to the top or bottom of the text field:
Command–Up Arrow or Command–Down Arrow
Select text as you move:
Shift + any of the insertion point movement commands above
Select all text:
Command–A
Copy, cut, or paste the selected text:
Command–C, Command–X, or Command–V
Undo or redo last change:
Command–Z or Shift–Command–Z


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching 
to ios only


There are commands for moving to the beginning or the end of a document, but 
you can't select text the way you do in Windows. I am not aS Pprofficient 
with bluetooth keyboard commands since all I use them for is typing long 
text, but as far as I know you still have to change the rotor to words if, 
for example, you want to go back a few words etc. I think you also need to 
use the rotor and the text selection set to characters, words or lines to 
select text, you can't just arrow up a few lines, press home to go to the 
beginning of a line and then hold down control+shift and arrow right to 
select a bunch of words, then use Control+c or Control+X to copy or move 
them etc. These are exactly the things people talk about when the topic of 
efficient word processing comes up. Sighted people have it a bit easier as 
they can pinch and stuff like that and see as they are doing it what is 
being selected and so on.`~~~`


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Anouk 
Radix

Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to 
ios only


Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if its possible with the bt keyboard and 
pages or word for ios to use shift+up or down arrow to select text (i know 
you can copy and paste with command+v and command+c).
And if its possible to move to the beginning and the end of a document with 
command+up/command+down arrow?

Thanks in advance for any info,
Greetings, Anouk,

Op 23 mei 2018, om 16:58 heeft Candy Lowe <candyrl...@gmail.com> het 
volgende geschreven:


I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard 
for when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on 
the individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but very 
seldom turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It just 
depends on what you want to do.
My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He 
likes it better and he prefers the bigger screen.


Sent from my iPhone


On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less 
and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not 
getting a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had 
laptops since 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a 
waste of money. Still its a big jump, are there people who have done this 
already and what are your experiences?

Can office on ios be used?
Greetings, Anouk,

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Re: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios only

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
Selecting text with the keyboard with these commands only work if you are 
editing.So, if in an Email that you are reading, you still have to use the Text 
Selection, the same on a web page.
I just tested it.
Richard




“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On May 24, 2018, at 7:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Well, that is good to know. However, does this only work in Pages or can you 
also use it to select, copy or move text when composing an email, writing a 
note etc.? How about selecting text on a web page?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Maria 
Reyes
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 2:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to 
ios only


So if you want to select text using a Bluetooth keyboard, you press option 
shift left, right, or up and down arrows. command o takes you to your document 
list, command v pastes. You obviously have your command b for bold and command 
i and u for italic and underline.

Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!

On May 24, 2018, at 4:50 PM, Anna Dresner 
<wadres...@att.net<mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:

Hi Anouk,

Command-Up Arrow goes to the top, and Command-Down Arrow takes you to the end.

Best,
Anna

Sent from my iPhone

On May 24, 2018, at 12:19 PM, Anouk Radix 
<radix.an...@gmail.com<mailto:radix.an...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Anna, How can you move to the beginning and end of a document using pages? 
Can this be done through the keyboard or do you need the touchscreen for that?
Greetings, Anouk,

Op 24 mei 2018, om 19:05 heeft Anna Dresner 
<wadres...@att.net<mailto:wadres...@att.net>> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Sieghard and all,

I just tried using a bluetooth keyboard in Pages. I was able to add Shift to 
commands to select words, characters and lines. For some reason, the commands 
for moving to the beginning and end of a line didn't work, so neither did those 
selection commands, but the others worked fine.

Best,
Anna




On May 24, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

There are commands for moving to the beginning or the end of a document, but 
you can't select text the way you do in Windows. I am not aS Pprofficient with 
bluetooth keyboard commands since all I use them for is typing long text, but 
as far as I know you still have to change the rotor to words if, for example, 
you want to go back a few words etc. I think you also need to use the rotor and 
the text selection set to characters, words or lines to select text, you can't 
just arrow up a few lines, press home to go to the beginning of a line and then 
hold down control+shift and arrow right to select a bunch of words, then use 
Control+c or Control+X to copy or move them etc. These are exactly the things 
people talk about when the topic of efficient word processing comes up. Sighted 
people have it a bit easier as they can pinch and stuff like that and see as 
they are doing it what is being selected and so on.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anouk 
Radix
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios 
only

Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if its possible with the bt keyboard and 
pages or word for ios to use shift+up or down arrow to select text (i know you 
can copy and paste with command+v and command+c).
And if its possible to move to the beginning and the end of a document with 
command+up/command+down arrow?
Thanks in advance for any info,
Greetings, Anouk,

Op 23 mei 2018, om 16:58 heeft Candy Lowe 
<candyrl...@gmail.com<mailto:candyrl...@gmail.com>> het volgende geschreven:

I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard for 
when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on the 
individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but very seldom 
turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It just depends on what 
you want to do.
My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He likes it 
better and he prefers the bigger screen.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix 
<radix.an...@gmail.com<mailto:radix.an...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less and 
less. I have been thinking about jus

RE: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios only

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Well, that is good to know. However, does this only work in Pages or can you 
also use it to select, copy or move text when composing an email, writing a 
note etc.? How about selecting text on a web page?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Maria 
Reyes
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 2:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to 
ios only


So if you want to select text using a Bluetooth keyboard, you press option 
shift left, right, or up and down arrows. command o takes you to your document 
list, command v pastes. You obviously have your command b for bold and command 
i and u for italic and underline. 

Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!

> On May 24, 2018, at 4:50 PM, Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Anouk,
> 
> Command-Up Arrow goes to the top, and Command-Down Arrow takes you to the end.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 24, 2018, at 12:19 PM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anna, How can you move to the beginning and end of a document using 
>> pages? Can this be done through the keyboard or do you need the touchscreen 
>> for that?
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>> 
>>> Op 24 mei 2018, om 19:05 heeft Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> het 
>>> volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sieghard and all,
>>> 
>>> I just tried using a bluetooth keyboard in Pages. I was able to add Shift 
>>> to commands to select words, characters and lines. For some reason, the 
>>> commands for moving to the beginning and end of a line didn't work, so 
>>> neither did those selection commands, but the others worked fine.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 24, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> There are commands for moving to the beginning or the end of a document, 
>>>> but you can't select text the way you do in Windows. I am not aS 
>>>> Pprofficient with bluetooth keyboard commands since all I use them for is 
>>>> typing long text, but as far as I know you still have to change the rotor 
>>>> to words if, for example, you want to go back a few words etc. I think you 
>>>> also need to use the rotor and the text selection set to characters, words 
>>>> or lines to select text, you can't just arrow up a few lines, press home 
>>>> to go to the beginning of a line and then hold down control+shift and 
>>>> arrow right to select a bunch of words, then use Control+c or Control+X to 
>>>> copy or move them etc. These are exactly the things people talk about when 
>>>> the topic of efficient word processing comes up. Sighted people have it a 
>>>> bit easier as they can pinch and stuff like that and see as they are doing 
>>>> it what is being selected and so on.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Anouk Radix
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:39 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to 
>>>> ios only
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if its possible with the bt keyboard 
>>>> and pages or word for ios to use shift+up or down arrow to select text (i 
>>>> know you can copy and paste with command+v and command+c). 
>>>> And if its possible to move to the beginning and the end of a document 
>>>> with command+up/command+down arrow?
>>>> Thanks in advance for any info,
>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>> 
>>>>> Op 23 mei 2018, om 16:58 heeft Candy Lowe <candyrl...@gmail.com> het 
>>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard 
>>>>> for when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on 
>>>>> the individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but 
>>>>> very seldom turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It 
>>>>> just depends on what you want to do.  
>>>>> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He 
>>>>> likes it better and he prefers the bigger screen.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent 

Re: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios only

[Maria Reyes]

So if you want to select text using a Bluetooth keyboard, you press option 
shift left, right, or up and down arrows. command o takes you to your document 
list, command v pastes. You obviously have your command b for bold and command 
i and u for italic and underline. 

Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!

> On May 24, 2018, at 4:50 PM, Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Anouk,
> 
> Command-Up Arrow goes to the top, and Command-Down Arrow takes you to the end.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 24, 2018, at 12:19 PM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anna, How can you move to the beginning and end of a document using 
>> pages? Can this be done through the keyboard or do you need the touchscreen 
>> for that?
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>> 
>>> Op 24 mei 2018, om 19:05 heeft Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> het 
>>> volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sieghard and all,
>>> 
>>> I just tried using a bluetooth keyboard in Pages. I was able to add Shift 
>>> to commands to select words, characters and lines. For some reason, the 
>>> commands for moving to the beginning and end of a line didn't work, so 
>>> neither did those selection commands, but the others worked fine.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 24, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> There are commands for moving to the beginning or the end of a document, 
>>>> but you can't select text the way you do in Windows. I am not aS 
>>>> Pprofficient with bluetooth keyboard commands since all I use them for is 
>>>> typing long text, but as far as I know you still have to change the rotor 
>>>> to words if, for example, you want to go back a few words etc. I think you 
>>>> also need to use the rotor and the text selection set to characters, words 
>>>> or lines to select text, you can't just arrow up a few lines, press home 
>>>> to go to the beginning of a line and then hold down control+shift and 
>>>> arrow right to select a bunch of words, then use Control+c or Control+X to 
>>>> copy or move them etc. These are exactly the things people talk about when 
>>>> the topic of efficient word processing comes up. Sighted people have it a 
>>>> bit easier as they can pinch and stuff like that and see as they are doing 
>>>> it what is being selected and so on.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Anouk Radix
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:39 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to 
>>>> ios only
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if its possible with the bt keyboard 
>>>> and pages or word for ios to use shift+up or down arrow to select text (i 
>>>> know you can copy and paste with command+v and command+c). 
>>>> And if its possible to move to the beginning and the end of a document 
>>>> with command+up/command+down arrow?
>>>> Thanks in advance for any info,
>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>> 
>>>>> Op 23 mei 2018, om 16:58 heeft Candy Lowe <candyrl...@gmail.com> het 
>>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard 
>>>>> for when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on 
>>>>> the individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but 
>>>>> very seldom turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It 
>>>>> just depends on what you want to do.  
>>>>> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He 
>>>>> likes it better and he prefers the bigger screen.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it 
>>>>>> less and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not 
>>>>>> getting a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had 
>>>>>> laptops

Re: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios only

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Anouk,

Command-Up Arrow goes to the top, and Command-Down Arrow takes you to the end.

Best,
Anna

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 24, 2018, at 12:19 PM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Anna, How can you move to the beginning and end of a document using pages? 
> Can this be done through the keyboard or do you need the touchscreen for that?
> Greetings, Anouk,
> 
>> Op 24 mei 2018, om 19:05 heeft Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> het volgende 
>> geschreven:
>> 
>> Hi Sieghard and all,
>> 
>> I just tried using a bluetooth keyboard in Pages. I was able to add Shift to 
>> commands to select words, characters and lines. For some reason, the 
>> commands for moving to the beginning and end of a line didn't work, so 
>> neither did those selection commands, but the others worked fine.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> There are commands for moving to the beginning or the end of a document, 
>>> but you can't select text the way you do in Windows. I am not aS 
>>> Pprofficient with bluetooth keyboard commands since all I use them for is 
>>> typing long text, but as far as I know you still have to change the rotor 
>>> to words if, for example, you want to go back a few words etc. I think you 
>>> also need to use the rotor and the text selection set to characters, words 
>>> or lines to select text, you can't just arrow up a few lines, press home to 
>>> go to the beginning of a line and then hold down control+shift and arrow 
>>> right to select a bunch of words, then use Control+c or Control+X to copy 
>>> or move them etc. These are exactly the things people talk about when the 
>>> topic of efficient word processing comes up. Sighted people have it a bit 
>>> easier as they can pinch and stuff like that and see as they are doing it 
>>> what is being selected and so on.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>>> Anouk Radix
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:39 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to 
>>> ios only
>>> 
>>> Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if its possible with the bt keyboard 
>>> and pages or word for ios to use shift+up or down arrow to select text (i 
>>> know you can copy and paste with command+v and command+c). 
>>> And if its possible to move to the beginning and the end of a document with 
>>> command+up/command+down arrow?
>>> Thanks in advance for any info,
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>> 
>>>> Op 23 mei 2018, om 16:58 heeft Candy Lowe <candyrl...@gmail.com> het 
>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>> 
>>>> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard 
>>>> for when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on 
>>>> the individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but very 
>>>> seldom turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It just 
>>>> depends on what you want to do.  
>>>> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He 
>>>> likes it better and he prefers the bigger screen.  
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less 
>>>>> and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not 
>>>>> getting a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had 
>>>>> laptops since 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a 
>>>>> waste of money. Still its a big jump, are there people who have done this 
>>>>> already and what are your experiences?
>>>>> Can office on ios be used?
>>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>>> 
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Re: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios only

[Anouk Radix]

Hi Anna, How can you move to the beginning and end of a document using pages? 
Can this be done through the keyboard or do you need the touchscreen for that?
Greetings, Anouk,

> Op 24 mei 2018, om 19:05 heeft Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> Hi Sieghard and all,
> 
> I just tried using a bluetooth keyboard in Pages. I was able to add Shift to 
> commands to select words, characters and lines. For some reason, the commands 
> for moving to the beginning and end of a line didn't work, so neither did 
> those selection commands, but the others worked fine.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 24, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> There are commands for moving to the beginning or the end of a document, but 
>> you can't select text the way you do in Windows. I am not aS Pprofficient 
>> with bluetooth keyboard commands since all I use them for is typing long 
>> text, but as far as I know you still have to change the rotor to words if, 
>> for example, you want to go back a few words etc. I think you also need to 
>> use the rotor and the text selection set to characters, words or lines to 
>> select text, you can't just arrow up a few lines, press home to go to the 
>> beginning of a line and then hold down control+shift and arrow right to 
>> select a bunch of words, then use Control+c or Control+X to copy or move 
>> them etc. These are exactly the things people talk about when the topic of 
>> efficient word processing comes up. Sighted people have it a bit easier as 
>> they can pinch and stuff like that and see as they are doing it what is 
>> being selected and so on.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Anouk 
>> Radix
>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:39 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to 
>> ios only
>> 
>> Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if its possible with the bt keyboard and 
>> pages or word for ios to use shift+up or down arrow to select text (i know 
>> you can copy and paste with command+v and command+c). 
>> And if its possible to move to the beginning and the end of a document with 
>> command+up/command+down arrow?
>> Thanks in advance for any info,
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>> 
>>> Op 23 mei 2018, om 16:58 heeft Candy Lowe <candyrl...@gmail.com> het 
>>> volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard 
>>> for when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on 
>>> the individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but very 
>>> seldom turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It just 
>>> depends on what you want to do.  
>>> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He 
>>> likes it better and he prefers the bigger screen.  
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less 
>>>> and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not 
>>>> getting a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops 
>>>> since 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a waste of 
>>>> money. Still its a big jump, are there people who have done this already 
>>>> and what are your experiences?
>>>> Can office on ios be used?
>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>> 
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Re: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios only

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Sieghard and all,

I just tried using a bluetooth keyboard in Pages. I was able to add Shift to 
commands to select words, characters and lines. For some reason, the commands 
for moving to the beginning and end of a line didn't work, so neither did those 
selection commands, but the others worked fine.

Best,
Anna




> On May 24, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> There are commands for moving to the beginning or the end of a document, but 
> you can't select text the way you do in Windows. I am not aS Pprofficient 
> with bluetooth keyboard commands since all I use them for is typing long 
> text, but as far as I know you still have to change the rotor to words if, 
> for example, you want to go back a few words etc. I think you also need to 
> use the rotor and the text selection set to characters, words or lines to 
> select text, you can't just arrow up a few lines, press home to go to the 
> beginning of a line and then hold down control+shift and arrow right to 
> select a bunch of words, then use Control+c or Control+X to copy or move them 
> etc. These are exactly the things people talk about when the topic of 
> efficient word processing comes up. Sighted people have it a bit easier as 
> they can pinch and stuff like that and see as they are doing it what is being 
> selected and so on.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Anouk 
> Radix
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to 
> ios only
> 
> Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if its possible with the bt keyboard and 
> pages or word for ios to use shift+up or down arrow to select text (i know 
> you can copy and paste with command+v and command+c). 
> And if its possible to move to the beginning and the end of a document with 
> command+up/command+down arrow?
> Thanks in advance for any info,
> Greetings, Anouk,
> 
>> Op 23 mei 2018, om 16:58 heeft Candy Lowe <candyrl...@gmail.com> het 
>> volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard 
>> for when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on 
>> the individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but very 
>> seldom turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It just 
>> depends on what you want to do.  
>> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He likes 
>> it better and he prefers the bigger screen.  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less 
>>> and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not getting 
>>> a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops since 
>>> 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a waste of money. 
>>> Still its a big jump, are there people who have done this already and what 
>>> are your experiences?
>>> Can office on ios be used?
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>> 
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RE: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios only

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There are commands for moving to the beginning or the end of a document, but 
you can't select text the way you do in Windows. I am not aS Pprofficient with 
bluetooth keyboard commands since all I use them for is typing long text, but 
as far as I know you still have to change the rotor to words if, for example, 
you want to go back a few words etc. I think you also need to use the rotor and 
the text selection set to characters, words or lines to select text, you can't 
just arrow up a few lines, press home to go to the beginning of a line and then 
hold down control+shift and arrow right to select a bunch of words, then use 
Control+c or Control+X to copy or move them etc. These are exactly the things 
people talk about when the topic of efficient word processing comes up. Sighted 
people have it a bit easier as they can pinch and stuff like that and see as 
they are doing it what is being selected and so on.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Anouk 
Radix
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios 
only

Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if its possible with the bt keyboard and 
pages or word for ios to use shift+up or down arrow to select text (i know you 
can copy and paste with command+v and command+c). 
And if its possible to move to the beginning and the end of a document with 
command+up/command+down arrow?
Thanks in advance for any info,
Greetings, Anouk,

> Op 23 mei 2018, om 16:58 heeft Candy Lowe <candyrl...@gmail.com> het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard for 
> when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on the 
> individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but very seldom 
> turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It just depends on 
> what you want to do.  
> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He likes 
> it better and he prefers the bigger screen.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less 
>> and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not getting 
>> a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops since 
>> 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a waste of money. 
>> Still its a big jump, are there people who have done this already and what 
>> are your experiences?
>> Can office on ios be used?
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>> 
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shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios only

[Anouk Radix]

Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if its possible with the bt keyboard and 
pages or word for ios to use shift+up or down arrow to select text (i know you 
can copy and paste with command+v and command+c). 
And if its possible to move to the beginning and the end of a document with 
command+up/command+down arrow?
Thanks in advance for any info,
Greetings, Anouk,

> Op 23 mei 2018, om 16:58 heeft Candy Lowe <candyrl...@gmail.com> het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard for 
> when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on the 
> individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but very seldom 
> turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It just depends on 
> what you want to do.  
> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He likes 
> it better and he prefers the bigger screen.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less 
>> and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not getting 
>> a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops since 
>> 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a waste of money. 
>> Still its a big jump, are there people who have done this already and what 
>> are your experiences?
>> Can office on ios be used?
>> Greetings, Anouk,
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RE: switching pages in an app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Can you provide the name of the app? It may simply be that the app lacks 
accessibility in that regard.
You can also try a 3-finger swipe from the right side of the phone to the left 
although I agree that the vertical swipe from bottom to the top is usually used 
for these situations. Also, have you tried to simply swipe right through the 
list of items?

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: jedbar...@gmail.com <jedbar...@gmail.com> On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 7:48 AM
To: viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: switching pages in an app

Hey guys,

OK, so i am using an app.  I'm viewing a list of products, and it tell me that 
there are 20 listing of products, i need to switch to a new page.  So i did the 
3 finger swipe up.  here's the problem.  All indications are that it did swipe, 
but the same listing is still there instead of going to the new listing.  Has 
anyone seen this before?
What's the best way to view the content of the new page?

Cheers,
jed

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switching pages in an app

[Jed Barton]

Hey guys,

OK, so i am using an app.  I'm viewing a list of products, and it tell
me that there are 20 listing of products, i need to switch to a new
page.  So i did the 3 finger swipe up.  here's the problem.  All
indications are that it did swipe, but the same listing is still there
instead of going to the new listing.  Has anyone seen this before?
What's the best way to view the content of the new page?

Cheers,
jed

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Re: Pages bugs in iOS?

[Harry Bell]

Thanks, Sieghard! Another usual avenue!
Thanks
Harry

> On 19 Jan 2018, at 17:26, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> If you have an Office 365 subscription and need to use a Wordprocessor on the 
> iPhone try Word, I personally don't use it, but heard that it works fairly 
> well.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Harry Bell
> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 9:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Pages bugs in iOS?
> 
> Reassuring to hear this from someone as experienced as you, Richard! I will 
> sigh deeply and report the issues to Apple Accessibility...
> Thanks
> Harry
> 
>> On 19 Jan 2018, at 16:37, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>> 
>> In my very biased opinion, Pages is useless on the iDevices.  Possibly it 
>> could work with a Bluetooth keyboard, but unti Apple figures out how to 
>> truly make Pages work with VoiceOver so it actually reports where the heck 
>> you are in a document, I'm not sure even a keyboard would help.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Harry Bell
>> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 6:24 AM
>> To: Abridged Recipients <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Pages bugs in iOS?
>> 
>> I am using the pages app on my iPhone 7 Plus and on my iPad, both running 
>> iOS 11 .2 .2. I use voice-over and when I open pages and see displayed all 
>> my folders, if I double tap with one finger on any folder it simply invites 
>> me to edit the name not open the folder.  This happens on both iPhone and 
>> iPad. The only way to open the folder to display all the pages documents is 
>> to turn voiceover off and get someone to tap once on the folder, which does 
>> then open!
>> The other bug is that if I use the rotor for text selection, I can select 
>> all using text selection but it does not seem to actually select the text 
>> even though I have double tap on select all. If I go afterwards to edit menu 
>> on the rotor, there is no copy option. Instead the Edit menu offers to 
>> select all and then I can copy and paste. The Text Selection rotor Option 
>> seems to be broken. Can others confirm this before I report it to Apple 
>> Accessibility?
>> Cheers
>> Harry
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RE: Pages bugs in iOS?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you have an Office 365 subscription and need to use a Wordprocessor on the 
iPhone try Word, I personally don't use it, but heard that it works fairly well.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Harry Bell
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 9:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pages bugs in iOS?

Reassuring to hear this from someone as experienced as you, Richard! I will 
sigh deeply and report the issues to Apple Accessibility...
Thanks
Harry

> On 19 Jan 2018, at 16:37, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> In my very biased opinion, Pages is useless on the iDevices.  Possibly it 
> could work with a Bluetooth keyboard, but unti Apple figures out how to truly 
> make Pages work with VoiceOver so it actually reports where the heck you are 
> in a document, I'm not sure even a keyboard would help.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Harry Bell
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> Subject: Pages bugs in iOS?
> 
> I am using the pages app on my iPhone 7 Plus and on my iPad, both running iOS 
> 11 .2 .2. I use voice-over and when I open pages and see displayed all my 
> folders, if I double tap with one finger on any folder it simply invites me 
> to edit the name not open the folder.  This happens on both iPhone and iPad. 
> The only way to open the folder to display all the pages documents is to turn 
> voiceover off and get someone to tap once on the folder, which does then open!
> The other bug is that if I use the rotor for text selection, I can select all 
> using text selection but it does not seem to actually select the text even 
> though I have double tap on select all. If I go afterwards to edit menu on 
> the rotor, there is no copy option. Instead the Edit menu offers to select 
> all and then I can copy and paste. The Text Selection rotor Option seems to 
> be broken. Can others confirm this before I report it to Apple Accessibility?
> Cheers
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Re: Pages bugs in iOS?

[Harry Bell]

Reassuring to hear this from someone as experienced as you, Richard! I will 
sigh deeply and report the issues to Apple Accessibility...
Thanks
Harry

> On 19 Jan 2018, at 16:37, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> In my very biased opinion, Pages is useless on the iDevices.  Possibly it 
> could work with a Bluetooth keyboard, but unti Apple figures out how to truly 
> make Pages work with VoiceOver so it actually reports where the heck you are 
> in a document, I'm not sure even a keyboard would help.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Harry Bell
> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 6:24 AM
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> Subject: Pages bugs in iOS?
> 
> I am using the pages app on my iPhone 7 Plus and on my iPad, both running iOS 
> 11 .2 .2. I use voice-over and when I open pages and see displayed all my 
> folders, if I double tap with one finger on any folder it simply invites me 
> to edit the name not open the folder.  This happens on both iPhone and iPad. 
> The only way to open the folder to display all the pages documents is to turn 
> voiceover off and get someone to tap once on the folder, which does then open!
> The other bug is that if I use the rotor for text selection, I can select all 
> using text selection but it does not seem to actually select the text even 
> though I have double tap on select all. If I go afterwards to edit menu on 
> the rotor, there is no copy option. Instead the Edit menu offers to select 
> all and then I can copy and paste. The Text Selection rotor Option seems to 
> be broken. Can others confirm this before I report it to Apple Accessibility?
> Cheers
> Harry
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RE: Pages bugs in iOS?

[Richard Turner]

In my very biased opinion, Pages is useless on the iDevices.  Possibly it could 
work with a Bluetooth keyboard, but unti Apple figures out how to truly make 
Pages work with VoiceOver so it actually reports where the heck you are in a 
document, I'm not sure even a keyboard would help.

Richard


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Harry Bell
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Subject: Pages bugs in iOS?

I am using the pages app on my iPhone 7 Plus and on my iPad, both running iOS 
11 .2 .2. I use voice-over and when I open pages and see displayed all my 
folders, if I double tap with one finger on any folder it simply invites me to 
edit the name not open the folder.  This happens on both iPhone and iPad. The 
only way to open the folder to display all the pages documents is to turn 
voiceover off and get someone to tap once on the folder, which does then open!
The other bug is that if I use the rotor for text selection, I can select all 
using text selection but it does not seem to actually select the text even 
though I have double tap on select all. If I go afterwards to edit menu on the 
rotor, there is no copy option. Instead the Edit menu offers to select all and 
then I can copy and paste. The Text Selection rotor Option seems to be broken. 
Can others confirm this before I report it to Apple Accessibility?
Cheers
Harry

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Pages bugs in iOS?

[Harry Bell]

I am using the pages app on my iPhone 7 Plus and on my iPad, both running iOS 
11 .2 .2. I use voice-over and when I open pages and see displayed all my 
folders, if I double tap with one finger on any folder it simply invites me to 
edit the name not open the folder.  This happens on both iPhone and iPad. The 
only way to open the folder to display all the pages documents is to turn 
voiceover off and get someone to tap once on the folder, which does then open!
The other bug is that if I use the rotor for text selection, I can select all 
using text selection but it does not seem to actually select the text even 
though I have double tap on select all. If I go afterwards to edit menu on the 
rotor, there is no copy option. Instead the Edit menu offers to select all and 
then I can copy and paste. The Text Selection rotor Option seems to be broken. 
Can others confirm this before I report it to Apple Accessibility?
Cheers
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Re: Recognizing Multiple Pages in Seeing AI

[Richard Turner]

In my humble opinion, that is the only thing KNFB Reader has over Seeing AI.
No, you cannot at this time.
Though, you can recognize a document and then copy and paste it into another 
app, scan the next page, copy and add that to the previous, etc.
Later,
Richard



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> On Dec 18, 2017, at 8:34 AM, K. Scott Carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I assume the answer is no, but I'd like to confirm. Is there a way to 
> recognize multiple pages in Seeing AI similar to KNFB Reader? That is, 
> recognize a number of pages of a document in succession and then save them 
> all? This is one of the useful features of KNFB reader and, at this point, 
> one of the few reasons its document reader still has a small advantage (at 
> least for me.)
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Recognizing Multiple Pages in Seeing AI

[K. Scott Carlson]

I assume the answer is no, but I'd like to confirm. Is there a way to 
recognize multiple pages in Seeing AI similar to KNFB Reader? That is, 
recognize a number of pages of a document in succession and then save 
them all? This is one of the useful features of KNFB reader and, at this 
point, one of the few reasons its document reader still has a small 
advantage (at least for me.)


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RE: Scanning Multiple Pages in Seeing AI

[Richard Turner]

Only by copying them into a text editor, then do the next scan, copy and paste 
it after the first, etc.
Granted, more steps, but in my experience, better results.

Richard


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Is there a way to scan multiple pages of a document in Seeing AI and 
have them in one place, as you can do with KNFB Reader?

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Scanning Multiple Pages in Seeing AI

[K. Scott Carlson]

Is there a way to scan multiple pages of a document in Seeing AI and 
have them in one place, as you can do with KNFB Reader?


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Re: Copying Entire Pages

[Michael D. Ulrich]

First you have to turn the road or to text selection, then flip up or down 
until you get whole page, then switch the rotor to edit, then flip up or down 
till you get copy. Then you can move it wherever your white switch back to edit 
mode and split up or down until you hit paste and double tap on it. Hope this 
helps.g

Sent from a land far far away in a not so distant time zone!


> On Sep 3, 2017, at 3:53 AM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> My only thought on the matter:  with the open page, use rotor to select 
> Editing, flick up/down to find select all,  then flick some 
> more to find Copy. Then go to your other, editor app, go back to the rotor 
> and editing, and flick up/down to find Paste.
> 
> If that don't work, noet will.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Joe" <jsoro...@gmail.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2017 12:15 AM
> Subject: Copying Entire Pages
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> How would I go about copying the contents of an entire page? I don't mean
> just the text in one screen, but rather, the contents of a whole page. Is
> this even possible? Thanks in advance.
> 
> Joe
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Re: Copying Entire Pages

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

My only thought on the matter:  with the open page, use rotor to select 
Editing, flick up/down to find select all,  then flick some 
more to find Copy. Then go to your other, editor app, go back to the rotor and 
editing, and flick up/down to find Paste.

If that don't work, noet will.

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2017 12:15 AM
Subject: Copying Entire Pages


Hello,

How would I go about copying the contents of an entire page? I don't mean
just the text in one screen, but rather, the contents of a whole page. Is
this even possible? Thanks in advance.

Joe

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Copying Entire Pages

[Joe]

Hello,

How would I go about copying the contents of an entire page? I don't mean
just the text in one screen, but rather, the contents of a whole page. Is
this even possible? Thanks in advance.

Joe

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