Re: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

[Caitlyn Furness]

Thanks so much for these hints, Richard!  this is very helpful!

Cait


> On May 14, 2018, at 9:21 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> OK, to help those who have struggled with the Seeing AI app's Product 
> identification, I tested it on a can of LeCroix sparking water. There is no 
> label, so you cannot use the seam as a location hint for the bar code, but 
> have to just turn the can until the beeps begin.
> I started with the iPhone about 18 inches from the can, and when the beeps 
> started, I slowly moved the can closer to the iPhone. When it got between 4 
> and 6 inches away, the product was identified. That took no more than 10 
> seconds and I think less.
> I then tried it on a carton of heavy cream.
> The first try, came back with product not identified. So I tried again and 
> made sure the side of the carton where the beeps had happened was straight on 
> and it worked. Again, I started about 18 inches away until the beeps started.
> After the identification was made, I flicked right to the more info button 
> and double tapped, and got this result:
> Darigold Whipping Cream Classic 36%, Heavy
> 
> Keep product refrigerated. For best quality, use within fifteen days after 
> opening. Especially for sauces and whipping. Farmer owned. Your local dairy. 
> Since 1918. This milk comes from cows not treated with the growth 
> hormone-rBST (According to the FDA, no significant difference has been shown 
> between milk derived from rbST treated and non-rbST treated cows) . 
> Ultra-pasteurized. Thank you for choosing Darigold. What is 
> ultra-pasteurization. Ultra-pasteurization is a process similar to regular 
> pasteurization that simply uses pressure, higher heat, and a shorter period 
> of time. The product is then packaged on special very clean filling machines. 
> The high heat process and clean packaging environment significantly extend 
> the freshness period for milk and other products like heavy whipping cream. 
> No chemicals or preservatives are added to the product as part of the 
> ultra-pasteurization process. This advanced technology extends the shelf life 
> to 60+ days (the shelf life for regular pasteurization is 21 days). Once the 
> carton is opened, it is best used within fifteen days. Grade A. A gluten free 
> product.
> 
> 
> On frozen dinners, the more info button usually gets all the nutrition info 
> plus cooking instructions for both regular ovens and microwaves.
> So, for me, the slightly slower time compared to an ID Mate is well worth it 
> so I can save my money for more important purchases.
> Just my two cents worth,
> Richard
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Re: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi,

I have the ID mate Galaxy reader.  I love that thing!

I’m not sure about everyone else, but every time I try to use any bar code 
reader on my i phone, I can never find the bar code.  the ID mate makes it easy 
because it’s multidirectional when it scans for a bar code, so you don’t have 
to be that precise when looking for the bar code.  for me, the database is 
always current because I update when the updates come out twice a year.  It’s 
also easy to record your own codes and then up load them to the universal 
database so they are included the next time an update comes out.  I know the ID 
mates are expensive compared to bar code reading apps on the i phone, but for 
me, it was worth it.

JMO, of course

Caitlyn


> On May 13, 2018, at 5:00 PM, Cristóbal  wrote:
> 
> Hello list,
> Was wondering if anyone has an I.D. Mate bar code reader and what their 
> thoughts are as far as having a standalone device as opposed to using an app 
> on their iPhone or some other bar code scanning app like SeeingAI?
> Someone is selling some I.D. Mate bar code readers on a buy/sell list I 
> belong to and while I’m somewhat interested, I’m wondering if ultimately, the 
> app more or less duplicates what the I.D. Mate bar code reader does? That or 
> is the singular task that the I.D. Mate bar code reader is designed for is 
> that much more superior at what it does that having a stand alone bar code 
> scanning device may be worth having? Also, for the record, I am completely 
> blind so any features that the I.D. Mate bar code reader  may have to assist 
> folks with low vision wouldn’t matter to me and not be some sort of plus for 
> having the device. 
> Would appreciate any input or observations.
> Thanks, 
> Cristóbal
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Re: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hi Sandy,


Got the product description.

The sun is out here in Wales and that is a rare enough thing to drink to!

Cheers.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 May 2018, at 15:46, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Richard,
> 
> I just sent in, don't know if it arrived, of a successful scan of a ottle 
> of wine. I, like you, find the Seeing Ai product channel very useful and it 
> is free!! The only things I have difficulty with are smallish tubes of 
> cosmetic creams. It finds the barcode easily, but can't seem to get a good 
> enough purchase, so, I get the fast beeps, but no result. I didn't know that 
> if you get the "not identified" message, it was worth trying again.
> 
> Something I noticed, when doing the wine, was that it works best with the 
> bottle upright and just rotate until you hear the beep. Most round containers 
> seem to need to be on their sides. I suppose it comes from wine had a life of 
> its own, and was not to be put on its side or shaken. Most modern wines 
> wouldn't notice if you put them in the spin-dryer!
> 
> I went over to my larder, intending to try the product reader on some 
> jars, as soon as I got near enough, phone in hand, not having decided which 
> to try, the app started beeping and reading whatever it saw, barcode-wise! I 
> find it excellent at spotting the smallest indication of a barcode. I do 
> notice, sometimes, once you get the fast beeps, but no "processing" message, 
> it is worth gently changing the angle of the phone, in a sort of circular 
> movement, it sometimes does the trick!
> 
> Sandy, waiting for happy hour!  
> 
> Sent from The dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 14 May 2018, at 14:21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> OK, to help those who have struggled with the Seeing AI app's Product 
>> identification, I tested it on a can of LeCroix sparking water. There is no 
>> label, so you cannot use the seam as a location hint for the bar code, but 
>> have to just turn the can until the beeps begin.
>> I started with the iPhone about 18 inches from the can, and when the beeps 
>> started, I slowly moved the can closer to the iPhone. When it got between 4 
>> and 6 inches away, the product was identified. That took no more than 10 
>> seconds and I think less.
>> I then tried it on a carton of heavy cream.
>> The first try, came back with product not identified. So I tried again and 
>> made sure the side of the carton where the beeps had happened was straight 
>> on and it worked. Again, I started about 18 inches away until the beeps 
>> started.
>> After the identification was made, I flicked right to the more info button 
>> and double tapped, and got this result:
>> Darigold Whipping Cream Classic 36%, Heavy
>> 
>> Keep product refrigerated. For best quality, use within fifteen days after 
>> opening. Especially for sauces and whipping. Farmer owned. Your local dairy. 
>> Since 1918. This milk comes from cows not treated with the growth 
>> hormone-rBST (According to the FDA, no significant difference has been shown 
>> between milk derived from rbST treated and non-rbST treated cows) . 
>> Ultra-pasteurized. Thank you for choosing Darigold. What is 
>> ultra-pasteurization. Ultra-pasteurization is a process similar to regular 
>> pasteurization that simply uses pressure, higher heat, and a shorter period 
>> of time. The product is then packaged on special very clean filling 
>> machines. The high heat process and clean packaging environment 
>> significantly extend the freshness period for milk and other products like 
>> heavy whipping cream. No chemicals or preservatives are added to the product 
>> as part of the ultra-pasteurization process. This advanced technology 
>> extends the shelf life to 60+ days (the shelf life for regular 
>> pasteurization is 21 days). Once the carton is opened, it is best used 
>> within fifteen days. Grade A. A gluten free product.
>> 
>> 
>> On frozen dinners, the more info button usually gets all the nutrition info 
>> plus cooking instructions for both regular ovens and microwaves.
>> So, for me, the slightly slower time compared to an ID Mate is well worth it 
>> so I can save my money for more important purchases.
>> Just my two cents worth,
>> Richard
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Re: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

['Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone]

Richard,

I just sent in, don't know if it arrived, of a successful scan of a ottle 
of wine. I, like you, find the Seeing Ai product channel very useful and it is 
free!! The only things I have difficulty with are smallish tubes of cosmetic 
creams. It finds the barcode easily, but can't seem to get a good enough 
purchase, so, I get the fast beeps, but no result. I didn't know that if you 
get the "not identified" message, it was worth trying again.

Something I noticed, when doing the wine, was that it works best with the 
bottle upright and just rotate until you hear the beep. Most round containers 
seem to need to be on their sides. I suppose it comes from wine had a life of 
its own, and was not to be put on its side or shaken. Most modern wines 
wouldn't notice if you put them in the spin-dryer!

I went over to my larder, intending to try the product reader on some jars, 
as soon as I got near enough, phone in hand, not having decided which to try, 
the app started beeping and reading whatever it saw, barcode-wise! I find it 
excellent at spotting the smallest indication of a barcode. I do notice, 
sometimes, once you get the fast beeps, but no "processing" message, it is 
worth gently changing the angle of the phone, in a sort of circular movement, 
it sometimes does the trick!

Sandy, waiting for happy hour!  

Sent from The dark side of the moon

> On 14 May 2018, at 14:21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> OK, to help those who have struggled with the Seeing AI app's Product 
> identification, I tested it on a can of LeCroix sparking water. There is no 
> label, so you cannot use the seam as a location hint for the bar code, but 
> have to just turn the can until the beeps begin.
> I started with the iPhone about 18 inches from the can, and when the beeps 
> started, I slowly moved the can closer to the iPhone. When it got between 4 
> and 6 inches away, the product was identified. That took no more than 10 
> seconds and I think less.
> I then tried it on a carton of heavy cream.
> The first try, came back with product not identified. So I tried again and 
> made sure the side of the carton where the beeps had happened was straight on 
> and it worked. Again, I started about 18 inches away until the beeps started.
> After the identification was made, I flicked right to the more info button 
> and double tapped, and got this result:
> Darigold Whipping Cream Classic 36%, Heavy
> 
> Keep product refrigerated. For best quality, use within fifteen days after 
> opening. Especially for sauces and whipping. Farmer owned. Your local dairy. 
> Since 1918. This milk comes from cows not treated with the growth 
> hormone-rBST (According to the FDA, no significant difference has been shown 
> between milk derived from rbST treated and non-rbST treated cows) . 
> Ultra-pasteurized. Thank you for choosing Darigold. What is 
> ultra-pasteurization. Ultra-pasteurization is a process similar to regular 
> pasteurization that simply uses pressure, higher heat, and a shorter period 
> of time. The product is then packaged on special very clean filling machines. 
> The high heat process and clean packaging environment significantly extend 
> the freshness period for milk and other products like heavy whipping cream. 
> No chemicals or preservatives are added to the product as part of the 
> ultra-pasteurization process. This advanced technology extends the shelf life 
> to 60+ days (the shelf life for regular pasteurization is 21 days). Once the 
> carton is opened, it is best used within fifteen days. Grade A. A gluten free 
> product.
> 
> 
> On frozen dinners, the more info button usually gets all the nutrition info 
> plus cooking instructions for both regular ovens and microwaves.
> So, for me, the slightly slower time compared to an ID Mate is well worth it 
> so I can save my money for more important purchases.
> Just my two cents worth,
> Richard
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RE: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi, adding my 2 cents, I have the Galaxy device and it works great once you get 
past the boot time which is my one biggest complaint. Even though they have 
shortened the boot time considerably with its last firmware by 13 seconds, I 
find it is still too long which causes me to use one of the IOS solutions like 
seeing AI or KNFB reader. Having said that however, the Galaxy is more 
accurate. It’s what I use if I have several items to scan.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 5:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

 

Ok… May I ask what you hated about it? How is SeeingAI better for example?

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Brandon Olivares
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 2:03 PM
To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

 

I hated mine. I think Seeing AI is a lot better at it.

 

Brandon

 

On May 13, 2018, at 5:00 PM, Cristóbal mailto:crismuno...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello list,

Was wondering if anyone has an I.D. Mate bar code reader and what their 
thoughts are as far as having a standalone device as opposed to using an app on 
their iPhone or some other bar code scanning app like SeeingAI?

Someone is selling some I.D. Mate bar code readers on a buy/sell list I belong 
to and while I’m somewhat interested, I’m wondering if ultimately, the app more 
or less duplicates what the I.D. Mate bar code reader does? That or is the 
singular task that the I.D. Mate bar code reader is designed for is that much 
more superior at what it does that having a stand alone bar code scanning 
device may be worth h having? Also, for the record, I am completely blind so 
any features that the I.D. Mate bar code reader  may have to assist folks with 
low vision wouldn’t matter to me and not be some sort of plus for having the 
device. 

Would appreciate any input or observations.

Thanks, 

Cristóbal

 

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Re: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

[Richard Turner]

OK, to help those who have struggled with the Seeing AI app's Product 
identification, I tested it on a can of LeCroix sparking water. There is no 
label, so you cannot use the seam as a location hint for the bar code, but have 
to just turn the can until the beeps begin.
I started with the iPhone about 18 inches from the can, and when the beeps 
started, I slowly moved the can closer to the iPhone. When it got between 4 and 
6 inches away, the product was identified. That took no more than 10 seconds 
and I think less.
I then tried it on a carton of heavy cream.
The first try, came back with product not identified. So I tried again and made 
sure the side of the carton where the beeps had happened was straight on and it 
worked. Again, I started about 18 inches away until the beeps started.
After the identification was made, I flicked right to the more info button and 
double tapped, and got this result:
Darigold Whipping Cream Classic 36%, Heavy

Keep product refrigerated. For best quality, use within fifteen days after 
opening. Especially for sauces and whipping. Farmer owned. Your local dairy. 
Since 1918. This milk comes from cows not treated with the growth hormone-rBST 
(According to the FDA, no significant difference has been shown between milk 
derived from rbST treated and non-rbST treated cows) . Ultra-pasteurized. Thank 
you for choosing Darigold. What is ultra-pasteurization. Ultra-pasteurization 
is a process similar to regular pasteurization that simply uses pressure, 
higher heat, and a shorter period of time. The product is then packaged on 
special very clean filling machines. The high heat process and clean packaging 
environment significantly extend the freshness period for milk and other 
products like heavy whipping cream. No chemicals or preservatives are added to 
the product as part of the ultra-pasteurization process. This advanced 
technology extends the shelf life to 60+ days (the shelf life for regular 
pasteurization is 21 days). Once the carton is opened, it is best used within 
fifteen days. Grade A. A gluten free product.


On frozen dinners, the more info button usually gets all the nutrition info 
plus cooking instructions for both regular ovens and microwaves.
So, for me, the slightly slower time compared to an ID Mate is well worth it so 
I can save my money for more important purchases.
Just my two cents worth,
Richard

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Re: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

[Gadget Girl]

I have an ID Mate Summit and upgraded to the ID Mate Galaxy.  The Galaxy is 
great and easy to use.  I like the fact that the Galaxy can be updated by 
Wi-Fi.  My Galaxy scans quickly, even if I’m upside down.  I think a stand 
alone unit is better than a smart phone app.  I am now going to sell my like 
new, hardly used Summit on CraigsList.

Regards, 
Gadget Girl 

> On May 13, 2018, at 5:02 PM, Brandon Olivares  
> wrote:
> 
> I hated mine. I think Seeing AI is a lot better at it.
> 
> Brandon
> 
>> On May 13, 2018, at 5:00 PM, Cristóbal  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello list,
>> Was wondering if anyone has an I.D. Mate bar code reader and what their 
>> thoughts are as far as having a standalone device as opposed to using an app 
>> on their iPhone or some other bar code scanning app like SeeingAI?
>> Someone is selling some I.D. Mate bar code readers on a buy/sell list I 
>> belong to and while I’m somewhat interested, I’m wondering if ultimately, 
>> the app more or less duplicates what the I.D. Mate bar code reader does? 
>> That or is the singular task that the I.D. Mate bar code reader is designed 
>> for is that much more superior at what it does that having a stand alone bar 
>> code scanning device may be worth h having? Also, for the record, I am 
>> completely blind so any features that the I.D. Mate bar code reader  may 
>> have to assist folks with low vision wouldn’t matter to me and not be some 
>> sort of plus for having the device.
>> Would appreciate any input or observations.
>> Thanks,
>> Cristóbal
>> 
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Re: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

[Marie]

I have used an ID Mate bar code scanner for almost ten years and while the 
Seeing AI app is nice, it can not compare with the ID Mate. There is more info 
available and the ability to record your own labels is fantastic.
Marie


From: Cristóbal 
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

Hello list,

Was wondering if anyone has an I.D. Mate bar code reader and what their 
thoughts are as far as having a standalone device as opposed to using an app on 
their iPhone or some other bar code scanning app like SeeingAI?

Someone is selling some I.D. Mate bar code readers on a buy/sell list I belong 
to and while I’m somewhat interested, I’m wondering if ultimately, the app more 
or less duplicates what the I.D. Mate bar code reader does? That or is the 
singular task that the I.D. Mate bar code reader is designed for is that much 
more superior at what it does that having a stand alone bar code scanning 
device may be worth having? Also, for the record, I am completely blind so any 
features that the I.D. Mate bar code reader  may have to assist folks with low 
vision wouldn’t matter to me and not be some sort of plus for having the 
device. 

Would appreciate any input or observations.

Thanks, 

Cristóbal

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Re: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

[Rebecca Ilniski]

I love my Summit. It's definitely better than  my iPhone. If I had to pick an 
app that is good withbar codes it would be Seeing AI.   

Rebecca and Zeb
email: rilni...@gmail.com
Twitter: applegirl1994

On May 13, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
wrote:

I love the Summit.
It is awesome. Way better then the iPhone apps.
 
Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 4:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?
 
Hello list,
Was wondering if anyone has an I.D. Mate bar code reader and what their 
thoughts are as far as having a standalone device as opposed to using an app on 
their iPhone or some other bar code scanning app like SeeingAI?
Someone is selling some I.D. Mate bar code readers on a buy/sell list I belong 
to and while I’m somewhat interested, I’m wondering if ultimately, the app more 
or less duplicates what the I.D. Mate bar code reader does? That or is the 
singular task that the I.D. Mate bar code reader is designed for is that much 
more superior at what it does that having a stand alone bar code scanning 
device may be worth having? Also, for the record, I am completely blind so any 
features that the I.D. Mate bar code reader  may have to assist folks with low 
vision wouldn’t matter to me and not be some sort of plus for having the device.
Would appreciate any input or observations.
Thanks,
Cristóbal
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RE: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

I love the Summit.

It is awesome. Way better then the iPhone apps.

 

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 4:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

 

Hello list,

Was wondering if anyone has an I.D. Mate bar code reader and what their 
thoughts are as far as having a standalone device as opposed to using an app on 
their iPhone or some other bar code scanning app like SeeingAI?

Someone is selling some I.D. Mate bar code readers on a buy/sell list I belong 
to and while I’m somewhat interested, I’m wondering if ultimately, the app more 
or less duplicates what the I.D. Mate bar code reader does? That or is the 
singular task that the I.D. Mate bar code reader is designed for is that much 
more superior at what it does that having a stand alone bar code scanning 
device may be worth having? Also, for the record, I am completely blind so any 
features that the I.D. Mate bar code reader  may have to assist folks with low 
vision wouldn’t matter to me and not be some sort of plus for having the 
device. 

Would appreciate any input or observations.

Thanks, 

Cristóbal

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Re: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

[Penny Reeder]

I have an ID Mate, and I have used the Seeing AI app for bar code
identification. While the Seeing AI app works quite well, I do love my
ID Mate and use it more often than the app. For one thing, one can
record extra information, including instructions which might not be
available from the app's web-based database, and I do use the
recording feature of the ID Mate whenever I have a product that is not
available from the commercial datrabase.
HTH,
Penny

On 5/13/18, Donald L. Roberts  wrote:
> Cristobal, We have had an I D mate Omni for more than six years and really
> enjoy using it. The database is updated twice per year and is quite
> comprehensive.
>
> Admittedly, we haven’t played that much with Seeing A I, however, it has
> been our experience that it is far easier to locate the bar code with the
> Omni than with the Seeing A I barcode channel.  The issue for us is not
> recognition; rather, it is locating the barcode.
>
> Don Roberts
>
> From: Cristóbal
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 2:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?
> Ok… May I ask what you hated about it? How is SeeingAI better for example?
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Brandon Olivares
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 2:03 PM
> To: VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?
>
>
>
> I hated mine. I think Seeing AI is a lot better at it.
>
>
>
> Brandon
>
>
>
>
>
>   On May 13, 2018, at 5:00 PM, Cristóbal  wrote:
>
>
>
>   Hello list,
>
>   Was wondering if anyone has an I.D. Mate bar code reader and what their
> thoughts are as far as having a standalone device as opposed to using an app
> on their iPhone or some other bar code scanning app like SeeingAI?
>
>   Someone is selling some I.D. Mate bar code readers on a buy/sell list I
> belong to and while I’m somewhat interested, I’m wondering if ultimately,
> the app more or less duplicates what the I.D. Mate bar code reader does?
> That or is the singular task that the I.D. Mate bar code reader is designed
> for is that much more superior at what it does that having a stand alone bar
> code scanning device may be worth h having? Also, for the record, I am
> completely blind so any features that the I.D. Mate bar code reader  may
> have to assist folks with low vision wouldn’t matter to me and not be some
> sort of plus for having the device.
>
>   Would appreciate any input or observations.
>
>   Thanks,
>
>   Cristóbal
>
>
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Re: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

[Donald L. Roberts]

Cristobal, We have had an I D mate Omni for more than six years and really 
enjoy using it. The database is updated twice per year and is quite 
comprehensive.

Admittedly, we haven’t played that much with Seeing A I, however, it has been 
our experience that it is far easier to locate the bar code with the Omni than 
with the Seeing A I barcode channel.  The issue for us is not recognition; 
rather, it is locating the barcode.

Don Roberts

From: Cristóbal 
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?
Ok… May I ask what you hated about it? How is SeeingAI better for example?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brandon 
Olivares
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 2:03 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

 

I hated mine. I think Seeing AI is a lot better at it.

 

Brandon





  On May 13, 2018, at 5:00 PM, Cristóbal  wrote:

   

  Hello list,

  Was wondering if anyone has an I.D. Mate bar code reader and what their 
thoughts are as far as having a standalone device as opposed to using an app on 
their iPhone or some other bar code scanning app like SeeingAI?

  Someone is selling some I.D. Mate bar code readers on a buy/sell list I 
belong to and while I’m somewhat interested, I’m wondering if ultimately, the 
app more or less duplicates what the I.D. Mate bar code reader does? That or is 
the singular task that the I.D. Mate bar code reader is designed for is that 
much more superior at what it does that having a stand alone bar code scanning 
device may be worth h having? Also, for the record, I am completely blind so 
any features that the I.D. Mate bar code reader  may have to assist folks with 
low vision wouldn’t matter to me and not be some sort of plus for having the 
device. 

  Would appreciate any input or observations.

  Thanks, 

  Cristóbal

   

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Re: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

[Andy Baracco]

The dedicated devices have an omnidirectional camera while the smart phone apps 
are dependent on the phone's camera which only sees straight ahead.

Andy

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  Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 2:57 PM
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  I do not have the ID Mate, but it stands to reason that a device with a 
deducated function will work better than an add on to a device with many 
functions, and, of course, you get what you pay for. The question you need to 
ask yourself is would it be worth $1000 to you to be able to perform this 
function.

  Andy

- Original Message - 
From: Cristóbal 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 2:00 PM
Subject: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?


Hello list,

Was wondering if anyone has an I.D. Mate bar code reader and what their 
thoughts are as far as having a standalone device as opposed to using an app on 
their iPhone or some other bar code scanning app like SeeingAI?

Someone is selling some I.D. Mate bar code readers on a buy/sell list I 
belong to and while I’m somewhat interested, I’m wondering if ultimately, the 
app more or less duplicates what the I.D. Mate bar code reader does? That or is 
the singular task that the I.D. Mate bar code reader is designed for is that 
much more superior at what it does that having a stand alone bar code scanning 
device may be worth having? Also, for the record, I am completely blind so any 
features that the I.D. Mate bar code reader  may have to assist folks with low 
vision wouldn’t matter to me and not be some sort of plus for having the 
device. 

Would appreciate any input or observations.

Thanks, 

Cristóbal


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Re: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

[Andy Baracco]

The newer models connect to WIFI so the database is automatically updated.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 2:24 PM
  Subject: RE: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?


  First, which versions of the ID Mate are they selling and for how much?

   

  New they run $1299.00.

  The current model is the Galaxy.  The prior one was the Quest I think and the 
Summit before that, or I could have those reversed.

   

  There are older models, but I personally wouldn’t spend the money.

  We have an ID Mate Quest at work.

   

  The ID Mate scanners have no screen, so they are great for those who are 
totally blind.  They are a dedicated bar code scanner, so they are very fast 
and they handle curves on things like cans and bottles better than an iPhone.

  Envision America updates their database about twice a year, after the first 
year, I believe it is $50 to update the database.  

  But, unless you have a large inventory you are trying to keep track of, the 
free Seeing AI app’s Product Channel does a great job!  And, since it uses an 
online database, you don’t have to worry about updates.

   

  The key with Seeing AI is to start with the iPhone camera about a foot or 
more away from the item and slowly bring it closer.

  I happened to have just used it yesterday on two bottles of wine and a box of 
mineral water cans and I would say it may have been a few seconds slower than 
an ID Mate.  But, only a few seconds.  

  One of the wines came from Trader Joe’s so I was quite surprised that Seeing 
AI had it in its database.

   

  Of course, there are other bar code apps like Digit-eyes…

   

  HTH,

  Richard


   

   

   

   

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  - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
  Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 2:00 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

   

  Hello list,

  Was wondering if anyone has an I.D. Mate bar code reader and what their 
thoughts are as far as having a standalone device as opposed to using an app on 
their iPhone or some other bar code scanning app like SeeingAI?

  Someone is selling some I.D. Mate bar code readers on a buy/sell list I 
belong to and while I’m somewhat interested, I’m wondering if ultimately, the 
app more or less duplicates what the I.D. Mate bar code reader does? That or is 
the singular task that the I.D. Mate bar code reader is designed for is that 
much more superior at what it does that having a stand alone bar code scanning 
device may be worth having? Also, for the record, I am completely blind so any 
features that the I.D. Mate bar code reader  may have to assist folks with low 
vision wouldn’t matter to me and not be some sort of plus for having the 
device. 

  Would appreciate any input or observations.

  Thanks, 

  Cristóbal

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Re: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

[Andy Baracco]

I do not have the ID Mate, but it stands to reason that a device with a 
deducated function will work better than an add on to a device with many 
functions, and, of course, you get what you pay for. The question you need to 
ask yourself is would it be worth $1000 to you to be able to perform this 
function.

Andy

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  Subject: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?


  Hello list,

  Was wondering if anyone has an I.D. Mate bar code reader and what their 
thoughts are as far as having a standalone device as opposed to using an app on 
their iPhone or some other bar code scanning app like SeeingAI?

  Someone is selling some I.D. Mate bar code readers on a buy/sell list I 
belong to and while I’m somewhat interested, I’m wondering if ultimately, the 
app more or less duplicates what the I.D. Mate bar code reader does? That or is 
the singular task that the I.D. Mate bar code reader is designed for is that 
much more superior at what it does that having a stand alone bar code scanning 
device may be worth having? Also, for the record, I am completely blind so any 
features that the I.D. Mate bar code reader  may have to assist folks with low 
vision wouldn’t matter to me and not be some sort of plus for having the 
device. 

  Would appreciate any input or observations.

  Thanks, 

  Cristóbal


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Re: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

[Brandon Olivares]

Seeing AI is better because it beeps when you're in the proximity of the 
barcode. The ID Mate, at least the one I had, gave no such indication, so it 
took a lot longer to find the barcode.

> On May 13, 2018, at 5:23 PM, Cristóbal  wrote:
> 
> Ok… May I ask what you hated about it? How is SeeingAI better for example?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Brandon Olivares
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 2:03 PM
> To: VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?
>  
> I hated mine. I think Seeing AI is a lot better at it.
>  
> Brandon
> 
> 
>> On May 13, 2018, at 5:00 PM, Cristóbal > <mailto:crismuno...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hello list,
>> Was wondering if anyone has an I.D. Mate bar code reader and what their 
>> thoughts are as far as having a standalone device as opposed to using an app 
>> on their iPhone or some other bar code scanning app like SeeingAI?
>> Someone is selling some I.D. Mate bar code readers on a buy/sell list I 
>> belong to and while I’m somewhat interested, I’m wondering if ultimately, 
>> the app more or less duplicates what the I.D. Mate bar code reader does? 
>> That or is the singular task that the I.D. Mate bar code reader is designed 
>> for is that much more superior at what it does that having a stand alone bar 
>> code scanning device may be worth h having? Also, for the record, I am 
>> completely blind so any features that the I.D. Mate bar code reader  may 
>> have to assist folks with low vision wouldn’t matter to me and not be some 
>> sort of plus for having the device.
>> Would appreciate any input or observations.
>> Thanks,
>> Cristóbal
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RE: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

[Cristóbal]

He’s selling “new to excellent condition” the I.D. Mate Summit with 16gb 
upgraded memory card Latest data base of products dated October 2017 Padded 
carry case Genuine power adapter Sample bar codes for use on products that 
don't currently have a bar code label. $140.

I asked him this same question and this is what I got back. 

“The I.D. Mate bar code reader has a much larger scanning device and is a lot 
more sensative to reading bar codes than a smart phone Ap.It also projects 
out a blue target for those who have limited vision to assist in getting a bar 
code scanned.  From what I have heard from those who have both the I.D. mate 
and the ap; they tell me the I.D. mate works much better and is far more 
accurate.

But then it is also a matter of choice for what works best for each individual.”

 

This is why I mentioned that I’m completely blind as one of the features he 
pointed out has to do with folks who have lo vision which would be irrelevant 
to me. 

He’s legitimate as far as what he’s selling since he’s always posting 
accessibility stuff and computers without complaints from people. For less than 
$150 I’m mildly interested, but again, if something like SeeingAI more or less 
already does what the I.D. Mate does, then I’m probably going to pass. If it on 
the other hand is faster than an app or is more forgiving as far as trying to 
scan stuff without hassling with a package or can or whatever then maybe we’re 
talking. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 2:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

 

First, which versions of the ID Mate are they selling and for how much?

 

New they run $1299.00.

The current model is the Galaxy.  The prior one was the Quest I think and the 
Summit before that, or I could have those reversed.

 

There are older models, but I personally wouldn’t spend the money.

We have an ID Mate Quest at work.

 

The ID Mate scanners have no screen, so they are great for those who are 
totally blind.  They are a dedicated bar code scanner, so they are very fast 
and they handle curves on things like cans and bottles better than an iPhone.

Envision America updates their database about twice a year, after the first 
year, I believe it is $50 to update the database.  

But, unless you have a large inventory you are trying to keep track of, the 
free Seeing AI app’s Product Channel does a great job!  And, since it uses an 
online database, you don’t have to worry about updates.

 

The key with Seeing AI is to start with the iPhone camera about a foot or more 
away from the item and slowly bring it closer.

I happened to have just used it yesterday on two bottles of wine and a box of 
mineral water cans and I would say it may have been a few seconds slower than 
an ID Mate.  But, only a few seconds.  

One of the wines came from Trader Joe’s so I was quite surprised that Seeing AI 
had it in its database.

 

Of course, there are other bar code apps like Digit-eyes…

 

HTH,

Richard

 

 

 

 

 

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- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

 

Hello list,

Was wondering if anyone has an I.D. Mate bar code reader and what their 
thoughts are as far as having a standalone device as opposed to using an app on 
their iPhone or some other bar code scanning app like SeeingAI?

Someone is selling some I.D. Mate bar code readers on a buy/sell list I belong 
to and while I’m somewhat interested, I’m wondering if ultimately, the app more 
or less duplicates what the I.D. Mate bar code reader does? That or is the 
singular task that the I.D. Mate bar code reader is designed for is that much 
more superior at what it does that having a stand alone bar code scanning 
device may be worth having? Also, for the record, I am completely blind so any 
features that the I.D. Mate bar code reader  may have to assist folks with low 
vision wouldn’t matter to me and not be some sort of plus for having the 
device. 

Would appreciate any input or observations.

Thanks, 

Cristóbal

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Re: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

[Mary Otten]

Hi richard,
I have mostly found the barcode scanning feature of seeing AI frustrating. I 
have occasionally had luck, especially in the beginning. But now it seems, 
admittedly I am often trying it on cans or bottles, that I can get that really 
fast beeping which indicates I’m on the barcode. And then it just keeps doing 
that. If I move the phone closer or maybe even further away, eventually the 
beating goes away, indicating I’ve lost it. But I don’t get that sweet spot 
where it actually sees the thing and identifies it. Are used to have a scanner 
that AT. guys sold. That connected to a PC and had that multi directional or 
whatever they call it scanning like the idea makes do. I would love to have an 
ID mate, but the price tag is absurd. Cannot justify it. I sure would like to 
know what that last little step is to get from the fast beeps to actual paydirt.
Mary


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> On May 13, 2018, at 2:24 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> First, which versions of the ID Mate are they selling and for how much?
>  
> New they run $1299.00.
> The current model is the Galaxy.  The prior one was the Quest I think and the 
> Summit before that, or I could have those reversed.
>  
> There are older models, but I personally wouldn’t spend the money.
> We have an ID Mate Quest at work.
>  
> The ID Mate scanners have no screen, so they are great for those who are 
> totally blind.  They are a dedicated bar code scanner, so they are very fast 
> and they handle curves on things like cans and bottles better than an iPhone.
> Envision America updates their database about twice a year, after the first 
> year, I believe it is $50 to update the database. 
> But, unless you have a large inventory you are trying to keep track of, the 
> free Seeing AI app’s Product Channel does a great job!  And, since it uses an 
> online database, you don’t have to worry about updates.
>  
> The key with Seeing AI is to start with the iPhone camera about a foot or 
> more away from the item and slowly bring it closer.
> I happened to have just used it yesterday on two bottles of wine and a box of 
> mineral water cans and I would say it may have been a few seconds slower than 
> an ID Mate.   But, only a few seconds. 
> One of the wines came from Trader Joe’s so I was quite surprised that Seeing 
> AI had it in its database.
>  
> Of course, there are other bar code apps like Digit-eyes…
>  
> HTH,
> Richard
>  
>  
>  
> 
>  
> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Cristóbal
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 2:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?
>  
> Hello list,
> Was wondering if anyone has an I.D. Mate bar code reader and what their 
> thoughts are as far as having a standalone device as opposed to using an app 
> on their iPhone or some other bar code scanning app like SeeingAI?
> Someone is selling some I.D. Mate bar code readers on a buy/sell list I 
> belong to and while I’m somewhat interested, I’m wondering if ultimately, the 
> app more or less duplicates what the I.D. Mate bar code reader does? That or 
> is the singular task that the I.D. Mate bar code reader is designed for is 
> that much more superior at what it does that having a stand alone bar code 
> scanning device may be worth having? Also, for the record, I am completely 
> blind so any features that the I.D. Mate bar code reader  may have to assist 
> folks with low vision wouldn’t matter to me and not be some sort of plus for 
> having the device.
> Would appreciate any input or observations.
> Thanks,
> Cristóbal
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RE: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

[Richard Turner]

First, which versions of the ID Mate are they selling and for how much?

New they run $1299.00.
The current model is the Galaxy.  The prior one was the Quest I think and the 
Summit before that, or I could have those reversed.

There are older models, but I personally wouldn’t spend the money.
We have an ID Mate Quest at work.

The ID Mate scanners have no screen, so they are great for those who are 
totally blind.  They are a dedicated bar code scanner, so they are very fast 
and they handle curves on things like cans and bottles better than an iPhone.
Envision America updates their database about twice a year, after the first 
year, I believe it is $50 to update the database.
But, unless you have a large inventory you are trying to keep track of, the 
free Seeing AI app’s Product Channel does a great job!  And, since it uses an 
online database, you don’t have to worry about updates.

The key with Seeing AI is to start with the iPhone camera about a foot or more 
away from the item and slowly bring it closer.
I happened to have just used it yesterday on two bottles of wine and a box of 
mineral water cans and I would say it may have been a few seconds slower than 
an ID Mate.  But, only a few seconds.
One of the wines came from Trader Joe’s so I was quite surprised that Seeing AI 
had it in its database.

Of course, there are other bar code apps like Digit-eyes…

HTH,
Richard




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

Hello list,
Was wondering if anyone has an I.D. Mate bar code reader and what their 
thoughts are as far as having a standalone device as opposed to using an app on 
their iPhone or some other bar code scanning app like SeeingAI?
Someone is selling some I.D. Mate bar code readers on a buy/sell list I belong 
to and while I’m somewhat interested, I’m wondering if ultimately, the app more 
or less duplicates what the I.D. Mate bar code reader does? That or is the 
singular task that the I.D. Mate bar code reader is designed for is that much 
more superior at what it does that having a stand alone bar code scanning 
device may be worth having? Also, for the record, I am completely blind so any 
features that the I.D. Mate bar code reader  may have to assist folks with low 
vision wouldn’t matter to me and not be some sort of plus for having the device.
Would appreciate any input or observations.
Thanks,
Cristóbal
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RE: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Hi,

We have an I.D. Mate Quest, and I love it.  I find it quicker and more reliable 
at finding the barcode than most apps.  I use it almost daily to identify 
packages and hear the directions for cooking.  Maybe I am just not as 
proficient as some others at finding barcodes with the phone apps, including 
Seeing AI, but I find that the I.D. Mate is a lot more forgiving as to how it 
is positioned to find the barcode.

We also use the recording feature to label some things that it can't identify 
by the barcode, such as meats we bring home from the meat store.

Pam



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Brandon 
Olivares [programmer2...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 5:02 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Re: I.D. Mate bar code reader  instead of iOS barcode app?

I hated mine. I think Seeing AI is a lot better at it.

Brandon

On May 13, 2018, at 5:00 PM, Cristóbal 
mailto:crismuno...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello list,
Was wondering if anyone has an I.D. Mate bar code reader and what their 
thoughts are as far as having a standalone device as opposed to using an app on 
their iPhone or some other bar code scanning app like SeeingAI?
Someone is selling some I.D. Mate bar code readers on a buy/sell list I belong 
to and while I’m somewhat interested, I’m wondering if ultimately, the app more 
or less duplicates what the I.D. Mate bar code reader does? That or is the 
singular task that the I.D. Mate bar code reader is designed for is that much 
more superior at what it does that having a stand alone bar code scanning 
device may be worth h having? Also, for the record, I am completely blind so 
any features that the I.D. Mate bar code reader  may have to assist folks with 
low vision wouldn’t matter to me and not be some sort of plus for having the 
device.
Would appreciate any input or observations.
Thanks,
Cristóbal

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RE: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

[Cristóbal]

Ok… May I ask what you hated about it? How is SeeingAI better for example?

 

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Subject: Re: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

 

I hated mine. I think Seeing AI is a lot better at it.

 

Brandon





On May 13, 2018, at 5:00 PM, Cristóbal mailto:crismuno...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello list,

Was wondering if anyone has an I.D. Mate bar code reader and what their 
thoughts are as far as having a standalone device as opposed to using an app on 
their iPhone or some other bar code scanning app like SeeingAI?

Someone is selling some I.D. Mate bar code readers on a buy/sell list I belong 
to and while I’m somewhat interested, I’m wondering if ultimately, the app more 
or less duplicates what the I.D. Mate bar code reader does? That or is the 
singular task that the I.D. Mate bar code reader is designed for is that much 
more superior at what it does that having a stand alone bar code scanning 
device may be worth h having? Also, for the record, I am completely blind so 
any features that the I.D. Mate bar code reader  may have to assist folks with 
low vision wouldn’t matter to me and not be some sort of plus for having the 
device. 

Would appreciate any input or observations.

Thanks, 

Cristóbal

 

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Re: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

[Brandon Olivares]

I hated mine. I think Seeing AI is a lot better at it.

Brandon

> On May 13, 2018, at 5:00 PM, Cristóbal  wrote:
> 
> Hello list,
> Was wondering if anyone has an I.D. Mate bar code reader and what their 
> thoughts are as far as having a standalone device as opposed to using an app 
> on their iPhone or some other bar code scanning app like SeeingAI?
> Someone is selling some I.D. Mate bar code readers on a buy/sell list I 
> belong to and while I’m somewhat interested, I’m wondering if ultimately, the 
> app more or less duplicates what the I.D. Mate bar code reader does? That or 
> is the singular task that the I.D. Mate bar code reader is designed for is 
> that much more superior at what it does that having a stand alone bar code 
> scanning device may be worth h having? Also, for the record, I am completely 
> blind so any features that the I.D. Mate bar code reader  may have to assist 
> folks with low vision wouldn’t matter to me and not be some sort of plus for 
> having the device.
> Would appreciate any input or observations.
> Thanks,
> Cristóbal
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