Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated
Hi, thank you for this information. Dave. -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 5:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Slide to type does not kick in unless you hold your finger on the screen in one spot for 1 second. Just don't do this and it won't be a problem. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 10:04 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated What happens, with that new slide to type keyboard, when setting up a new phone from scratch? I usually set up a new phone, from an iCloud back-up. Which means i will have to put in my apple ID. Will a new phone use the slide to type, from the start, or will it only kick in, after the phone is up and running, as it could prove difficult, because you can't turn it off, until you can access the settings. Dave. -Original Message- From: Alan Lemly Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Gera, I did not have a good experience when using the NFC phone to phone setup when upgrading from an iPhone 7 to an iPhone 8. I got some sort of confusing response from the new phone that my Apple ID did not match. Since I had only ever had one Apple ID, I decided at that point to restore from my encrypted iTunes backup which worked fine after the delay to re-download all the apps from the cloud. I believe when I get my SE 2020, I'll just restore from a backup and proceed without the phone to phone transfer. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Exactly what I m wondering too. When I did this method of phone to phone transfer from a 5S to my currently-running SE, it asked me nevertheless if I wanted either an Icloud or an ITunes backup. Shouldn t it have transferred everything from one to another phone (even my music from ITunes) without having me asked it for which backup I wanted to restore from? What s the essence then, in usin the phone to phone method? Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel El 24 abr 2020, a la(s) 2:19 a.m., Simon A Fogarty escribi : ?Richard and others, If you have an old phone with IOS 11 on it then setup is even easier, Once you have vo switched on, And your sim card in, You get asked if you have a aphone or ipad that you could hold close to your new phone, And that close procsimatry will allow the phones to talk to each other and a copy of the data from old to new will be instigated behind the seens. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 4:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct. A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push too hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great if the sim removal tool is not in the box. Yes, triple tapping the home button when you power it on will start VoiceOver. The one risk in setting up from a backup is that if there are any lingering problems, they will be inherited. I'm debating whether to set it up as a new device, then sync with my computer. The advantage to using an encrypted backup is that more settings like passwords are supposed to be included along with email account details. I may even just call Apple Accessibility and have them help walk me through it. Though I'm just stubborn enough to go ahead on my own. But, I would set it up via wifi first, then put in the sim I think. I'll be calling my carrier to double check. Richard On Apr 23, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: ?Eleanor, I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 and will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've never transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your questions. My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see below for other steps you need to do before this. I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing anything else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over the air or to a local computer has changed over the past few
RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated
Just follow the prompts on the screen. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Saturday, 25 April 2020 4:33 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated When transfering between two phones, is it all or nothing, or can one transfer specific data, such as mail? Thanks for any information. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone Six On Apr 24, 2020, at 10:52 AM, Kathy Brandt wrote: When doing this, you have to make sure that Bluetooth on both devices is on, and, at least initially, you have to position the back camera of your new phone just so in relation to the front of the old phone so that the process gets started. This at least was my experience last time with iPods. You can do a screen share with Apple accessibility to help you. > On Apr 24, 2020, at 3:19 AM, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > > Richard and others, > > If you have an old phone with IOS 11 on it then setup is even easier, > > Once you have vo switched on, > And your sim card in, > You get asked if you have a aphone or ipad that you could hold close > to your new phone, And that close procsimatry will allow the phones to talk > to each other and a copy of the data from old to new will be instigated > behind the seens. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 4:43 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from > scratch - all help appreciated > > As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct. > A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to > remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push too > hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great if the > sim removal tool is not in the box. > Yes, triple tapping the home button when you power it on will start VoiceOver. > The one risk in setting up from a backup is that if there are any lingering > problems, they will be inherited. > I'm debating whether to set it up as a new device, then sync with my computer. > The advantage to using an encrypted backup is that more settings like > passwords are supposed to be included along with email account details. > I may even just call Apple Accessibility and have them help walk me through > it. > Though I'm just stubborn enough to go ahead on my own. > But, I would set it up via wifi first, then put in the sim I think. > I'll be calling my carrier to double check. > > > > > Richard > > >> On Apr 23, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: >> >> Eleanor, >> >> >> >> I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 and >> will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've never >> transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your >> questions. >> >> >> >> My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be >> able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see >> below for other steps you need to do before this. >> >> >> >> I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing >> anything else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over the >> air or to a local computer has changed over the past few years in my >> opinion. In the past, more things were backed up to a local encrypted iTunes >> backup than to iCloud but I'm not sure that is still the case. Since your >> Mac is not available, you should definitely do an iCloud backup before >> setting up your new SE. To do so: >> >> >> >> 1. From your iPhone 8, open Settings, and at the top of the list, >> double tap on your name, Apple ID, iCloud, iTunes and App Store. >> >> 2. Swipe to iCloud and double tap. >> >> 3. Under the heading Apps using iCloud, swipe to iCloud backup and >> double tap. >> >> 4. Make sure iCloud backup is turned on which will be the first in the >> list on the screen that opens. Swipe again to the Backup now button and >> double tap to initiate a current iCloud backup. Give the process a few >> minutes to complete and you will be given the current time of the latest >> backup when it's done. >> >> >> >> I will be following the above steps as well but will also do an encrypted >> iTunes backup on my Windows 7 computer because I really don't believe you >> can have too many backups. >
RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated
Slide to type does not kick in unless you hold your finger on the screen in one spot for 1 second. Just don't do this and it won't be a problem. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 10:04 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated What happens, with that new slide to type keyboard, when setting up a new phone from scratch? I usually set up a new phone, from an iCloud back-up. Which means i will have to put in my apple ID. Will a new phone use the slide to type, from the start, or will it only kick in, after the phone is up and running, as it could prove difficult, because you can't turn it off, until you can access the settings. Dave. -Original Message- From: Alan Lemly Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Gera, I did not have a good experience when using the NFC phone to phone setup when upgrading from an iPhone 7 to an iPhone 8. I got some sort of confusing response from the new phone that my Apple ID did not match. Since I had only ever had one Apple ID, I decided at that point to restore from my encrypted iTunes backup which worked fine after the delay to re-download all the apps from the cloud. I believe when I get my SE 2020, I'll just restore from a backup and proceed without the phone to phone transfer. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Exactly what I m wondering too. When I did this method of phone to phone transfer from a 5S to my currently-running SE, it asked me nevertheless if I wanted either an Icloud or an ITunes backup. Shouldn t it have transferred everything from one to another phone (even my music from ITunes) without having me asked it for which backup I wanted to restore from? What s the essence then, in usin the phone to phone method? Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel > El 24 abr 2020, a la(s) 2:19 a.m., Simon A Fogarty > escribi : > > ?Richard and others, > > If you have an old phone with IOS 11 on it then setup is even easier, > > Once you have vo switched on, > And your sim card in, > You get asked if you have a aphone or ipad that you could hold close > to your new phone, And that close procsimatry will allow the phones to > talk to each other and a copy of the data from old to new will be > instigated behind the seens. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 4:43 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from > scratch - all help appreciated > > As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct. > A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to > remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push > too hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great > if the sim removal tool is not in the box. > Yes, triple tapping the home button when you power it on will start > VoiceOver. > The one risk in setting up from a backup is that if there are any > lingering problems, they will be inherited. > I'm debating whether to set it up as a new device, then sync with my > computer. > The advantage to using an encrypted backup is that more settings like > passwords are supposed to be included along with email account details. > I may even just call Apple Accessibility and have them help walk me > through it. > Though I'm just stubborn enough to go ahead on my own. > But, I would set it up via wifi first, then put in the sim I think. > I'll be calling my carrier to double check. > > > > > Richard > > >> On Apr 23, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: >> >> ?Eleanor, >> >> >> >> I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 >> and will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've >> never transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your >> questions. >> >> >> >> My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be >> able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see >> below for other steps you need to do before this. >> >> >> >> I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doin
RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated
It'll use slide to type to start. If you type quickly enough, it won't be a problem. If you leave your finger on the keyboard too long then you can just double tap the delete button to erase what was inserted by slide to type and then you can pick up where you left off. I found it a bit tedious, coming from and Android phone to an iPhone, but it was doable. I suspect people just upgrading their iPhones will have even less problems then I did. Once you get into your phone you can turn off slide to type or just increase the time it takes before it kicks in. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf > Of Dave > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 12:04 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch > - all help appreciated > > What happens, with that new slide to type keyboard, when setting up a new > phone from scratch? > > I usually set up a new phone, from an iCloud back-up. Which means i will have > to > put in my apple ID. > > Will a new phone use the slide to type, from the start, or will it only kick > in, after > the phone is up and running, as it could prove difficult, because you can't > turn it > off, until you can access the settings. > > Dave. > > > -Original Message- > From: Alan Lemly > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:36 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch > - all help appreciated > > Gera, > > I did not have a good experience when using the NFC phone to phone setup > when upgrading from an iPhone 7 to an iPhone 8. I got some sort of confusing > response from the new phone that my Apple ID did not match. Since I had only > ever had one Apple ID, I decided at that point to restore from my encrypted > iTunes backup which worked fine after the delay to re-download all the apps > from the cloud. I believe when I get my SE 2020, I'll just restore from a > backup > and proceed without the phone to phone transfer. > > Alan Lemly > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:35 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch > - all help appreciated > > Exactly what I m wondering too. When I did this method of phone to phone > transfer from a 5S to my currently-running SE, it asked me nevertheless if I > wanted either an Icloud or an ITunes backup. Shouldn t it have transferred > everything from one to another phone (even my music from ITunes) without > having me asked it for which backup I wanted to restore from? What s the > essence then, in usin the phone to phone method? > > Gera > Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel > > > El 24 abr 2020, a la(s) 2:19 a.m., Simon A Fogarty > > escribi : > > > > ?Richard and others, > > > > If you have an old phone with IOS 11 on it then setup is even easier, > > > > Once you have vo switched on, > > And your sim card in, > > You get asked if you have a aphone or ipad that you could hold close > > to your new phone, And that close procsimatry will allow the phones to > > talk to each other and a copy of the data from old to new will be > > instigated behind the seens. > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf > Of > > Richard Turner > > Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 4:43 AM > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from > > scratch - all help appreciated > > > > As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct. > > A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to > > remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push > > too hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great > > if the sim removal tool is not in the box. > > Yes, triple tapping the home button when you power it on will start > > VoiceOver. > > The one risk in setting up from a backup is that if there are any > > lingering problems, they will be inherited. > > I'm debating whether to set it up as a new device, then sync with my > > computer. > > The advantage to using an encrypted backup is that more settings like > > passwords are supposed to be included along with email account details. > > I may even just call Apple Accessibility and have them help walk me > > through it. > > Though I'm just st
Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated
-Original Message- From: Dave Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 6:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated What happens, with that new slide to type keyboard, when setting up a new phone from scratch? I usually set up a new phone, from an iCloud back-up. Which means i will have to put in my apple ID. Will a new phone use the slide to type, from the start, or will it only kick in, after the phone is up and running, as it could prove difficult, because you can't turn it off, until you can access the settings. Dave. -Original Message- From: Alan Lemly Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Gera, I did not have a good experience when using the NFC phone to phone setup when upgrading from an iPhone 7 to an iPhone 8. I got some sort of confusing response from the new phone that my Apple ID did not match. Since I had only ever had one Apple ID, I decided at that point to restore from my encrypted iTunes backup which worked fine after the delay to re-download all the apps from the cloud. I believe when I get my SE 2020, I'll just restore from a backup and proceed without the phone to phone transfer. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Exactly what I m wondering too. When I did this method of phone to phone transfer from a 5S to my currently-running SE, it asked me nevertheless if I wanted either an Icloud or an ITunes backup. Shouldn t it have transferred everything from one to another phone (even my music from ITunes) without having me asked it for which backup I wanted to restore from? What s the essence then, in usin the phone to phone method? Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel El 24 abr 2020, a la(s) 2:19 a.m., Simon A Fogarty escribi : ?Richard and others, If you have an old phone with IOS 11 on it then setup is even easier, Once you have vo switched on, And your sim card in, You get asked if you have a aphone or ipad that you could hold close to your new phone, And that close procsimatry will allow the phones to talk to each other and a copy of the data from old to new will be instigated behind the seens. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 4:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct. A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push too hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great if the sim removal tool is not in the box. Yes, triple tapping the home button when you power it on will start VoiceOver. The one risk in setting up from a backup is that if there are any lingering problems, they will be inherited. I'm debating whether to set it up as a new device, then sync with my computer. The advantage to using an encrypted backup is that more settings like passwords are supposed to be included along with email account details. I may even just call Apple Accessibility and have them help walk me through it. Though I'm just stubborn enough to go ahead on my own. But, I would set it up via wifi first, then put in the sim I think. I'll be calling my carrier to double check. Richard On Apr 23, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: ?Eleanor, I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 and will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've never transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your questions. My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see below for other steps you need to do before this. I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing anything else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over the air or to a local computer has changed over the past few years in my opinion. In the past, more things were backed up to a local encrypted iTunes backup than to iCloud but I'm not sure that is still the case. Since your Mac is not available, you should definitely do an iCloud backup before setting up your new SE. To do so: 1. From your iPhone 8, open Settings, and at the top of the list, double tap on your name, Apple ID, iCloud, iTunes and App Store. 2. Swipe to iCloud and double tap
RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated
Thanks. I poked around but must have missed it. Alan From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 4:09 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated It was updated October, 2019. It said that near the author's name. Richard On Apr 24, 2020, at 1:32 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: Richard, Thanks for the article link about differences between iTunes encrypted backups and iCloud backups. The article was good but I wish I could have found a date indicating when it was written or last updated. I would think anyone publishing anything to the internet would realize the importance of dating their work especially where technology is concerned. I've decided my approach when I receive my SE 2020. I'm going to turn it on without transferring my SIM card from my iPhone 8, turn Voiceover on, answer any questions about Apple ID, language, etc., and then restore from my iTunes encrypted backup which I will have done before unboxing the new SE. I'll also have my iCloud backup which I'll also do before opening the new phone in case it is needed. I have a push pin and SIM card removal tool at hand and expect to use the push pin when it's time to transfer the SIM from my iPhone 8 to the SE 2020. I'll do my best to keep a record of my experience which I'll post to the list when done. Alan Lemly From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 2:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Hi Mike and others, This article may help: https://www.imyfone.com/ios-data-recovery/is-it-better-to-backup-to-icloud-or-computer/ <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.imyfone.com%2Fios-data-recovery%2Fis-it-better-to-backup-to-icloud-or-computer%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C35cf9209de334feb538808d7e88e93ec%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637233571382708740=5cf6uMbYr38%2FEOyoGxIueHA6bxDgHlQu0cjQOwbYMgI%3D=0> Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 12:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Hi Alan, Would you or someone please explain the difference between backing up through my iPhone to iCloud, and backing up through iTunes? I've read mixed opinions on this and since I backup both my wife's phone and mine both ways I would like to know which backup to use when we get our new SE 2020 iPhones. Thanks much. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet. - Original Message - From: Alan Lemly <mailto:wale...@gmail.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 9:36 AM Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Gera, I did not have a good experience when using the NFC phone to phone setup when upgrading from an iPhone 7 to an iPhone 8. I got some sort of confusing response from the new phone that my Apple ID did not match. Since I had only ever had one Apple ID, I decided at that point to restore from my encrypted iTunes backup which worked fine after the delay to re-download all the apps from the cloud. I believe when I get my SE 2020, I'll just restore from a backup and proceed without the phone to phone transfer. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Exactly what I m wondering too. When I did this method of phone to phone transfer from a 5S to my currently-running SE, it asked me nevertheless if I wanted either an Icloud or an ITunes backup. Shouldn t it have transferred everything from one to another phone (even my music from ITunes) without having me asked it for which backup I wanted to restore from? What s the essence then, in usin the phone to phone method? Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel > El 24 abr 2020, a la(s) 2:19 a.m., Simon A Fogarty > escribi : > > ?Richard and others, > > If you have an old phone with IOS 11 on it then setup is even easier, > > Once you have vo switched on, > And your sim card in, > You get asked if you have a aphone or ipad that you could hold close > to your new phone, And that close pro
Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated
You will also receive instructions with your new IPhone to assist you in setting up your new phone. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: "Simon A Fogarty" To: Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 1:59 AM Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Turn it on, Press the home button three times quickly and listen to the voiceover voices in your head! -Original Message- From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 1:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Hi all After any advice/help from people on this list with this situation. I’ve ordered a new IPhone SE, and have just had confirmation of its despatch. So have some questions re setting it up which I’m hoping people might be able to assist with. Firstly, I know this sounds somewhat daft, but if anyone could e-mail me some idiot-proof instructions on how to set it up from scratch, including on how to get Voiceover started from the word go I’d be really grateful please?. I’m far more nervous about doing it than normal, probably because I know all the shops are closed, and sighted friends who would normally be able to assist me can’t do so at the moment due to the lockdown. So any step-by-step guide much appreciated. Secondly, is it better to set the phone up over the air?, or is it better to set it up through my Mac? I ask this because my Mac is currently away being fixed/serviced. So I just wondered whether it would make any difference which way I did it?, and if so whether I should wait for my Mac to return before attempting set-up? Finally, can anyone send me some step-by-step idiots instructions on how to swap my SIM card over from my currrent IPhone 8 to the new SE?? I’ve never done this before, and again, in normal times I’d happily get sighted help with this, but obviously I can’t do that right now. So any help appreciated. My apologies for all the questions, but I really don’t want to make a mess of this/muck it up completely/ruin the new phone/etc. So many thanks in advance for any help/advice that anyone can give me. Eleanor Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/8C7C56F7-0DC7-4463-97FD-AD4F14F16205%40googlemail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SYCPR01MB40485574268D8E52C54EE14D8AD00%40SYCPR01MB4048.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view
Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated
It was updated October, 2019. It said that near the author's name. Richard On Apr 24, 2020, at 1:32 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: Richard, Thanks for the article link about differences between iTunes encrypted backups and iCloud backups. The article was good but I wish I could have found a date indicating when it was written or last updated. I would think anyone publishing anything to the internet would realize the importance of dating their work especially where technology is concerned. I've decided my approach when I receive my SE 2020. I'm going to turn it on without transferring my SIM card from my iPhone 8, turn Voiceover on, answer any questions about Apple ID, language, etc., and then restore from my iTunes encrypted backup which I will have done before unboxing the new SE. I'll also have my iCloud backup which I'll also do before opening the new phone in case it is needed. I have a push pin and SIM card removal tool at hand and expect to use the push pin when it's time to transfer the SIM from my iPhone 8 to the SE 2020. I'll do my best to keep a record of my experience which I'll post to the list when done. Alan Lemly From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 2:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Hi Mike and others, This article may help: https://www.imyfone.com/ios-data-recovery/is-it-better-to-backup-to-icloud-or-computer/<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.imyfone.com%2Fios-data-recovery%2Fis-it-better-to-backup-to-icloud-or-computer%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C35cf9209de334feb538808d7e88e93ec%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637233571382708740=5cf6uMbYr38%2FEOyoGxIueHA6bxDgHlQu0cjQOwbYMgI%3D=0> Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 12:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Hi Alan, Would you or someone please explain the difference between backing up through my iPhone to iCloud, and backing up through iTunes? I've read mixed opinions on this and since I backup both my wife's phone and mine both ways I would like to know which backup to use when we get our new SE 2020 iPhones. Thanks much. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet. - Original Message - From: Alan Lemly<mailto:wale...@gmail.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 9:36 AM Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Gera, I did not have a good experience when using the NFC phone to phone setup when upgrading from an iPhone 7 to an iPhone 8. I got some sort of confusing response from the new phone that my Apple ID did not match. Since I had only ever had one Apple ID, I decided at that point to restore from my encrypted iTunes backup which worked fine after the delay to re-download all the apps from the cloud. I believe when I get my SE 2020, I'll just restore from a backup and proceed without the phone to phone transfer. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Exactly what I m wondering too. When I did this method of phone to phone transfer from a 5S to my currently-running SE, it asked me nevertheless if I wanted either an Icloud or an ITunes backup. Shouldn t it have transferred everything from one to another phone (even my music from ITunes) without having me asked it for which backup I wanted to restore from? What s the essence then, in usin the phone to phone method? Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel > El 24 abr 2020, a la(s) 2:19 a.m., Simon A Fogarty > mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> escribi : > > ?Richard and others, > > If you have an old phone with IOS 11 on it then setup is even easier, > > Once you have vo switched on, > And your sim card in, > You get asked if you have a aphone or ipad that you could hold close > to your new phone, And that close procsimatry will allow the phones to talk > to each other and a copy of the data from old to new will be instigated > behind the
RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated
Richard, Thanks for the article link about differences between iTunes encrypted backups and iCloud backups. The article was good but I wish I could have found a date indicating when it was written or last updated. I would think anyone publishing anything to the internet would realize the importance of dating their work especially where technology is concerned. I've decided my approach when I receive my SE 2020. I'm going to turn it on without transferring my SIM card from my iPhone 8, turn Voiceover on, answer any questions about Apple ID, language, etc., and then restore from my iTunes encrypted backup which I will have done before unboxing the new SE. I'll also have my iCloud backup which I'll also do before opening the new phone in case it is needed. I have a push pin and SIM card removal tool at hand and expect to use the push pin when it's time to transfer the SIM from my iPhone 8 to the SE 2020. I'll do my best to keep a record of my experience which I'll post to the list when done. Alan Lemly From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 2:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Hi Mike and others, This article may help: https://www.imyfone.com/ios-data-recovery/is-it-better-to-backup-to-icloud-or-computer/ Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 12:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Hi Alan, Would you or someone please explain the difference between backing up through my iPhone to iCloud, and backing up through iTunes? I've read mixed opinions on this and since I backup both my wife's phone and mine both ways I would like to know which backup to use when we get our new SE 2020 iPhones. Thanks much. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet. - Original Message - From: Alan Lemly <mailto:wale...@gmail.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 9:36 AM Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Gera, I did not have a good experience when using the NFC phone to phone setup when upgrading from an iPhone 7 to an iPhone 8. I got some sort of confusing response from the new phone that my Apple ID did not match. Since I had only ever had one Apple ID, I decided at that point to restore from my encrypted iTunes backup which worked fine after the delay to re-download all the apps from the cloud. I believe when I get my SE 2020, I'll just restore from a backup and proceed without the phone to phone transfer. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Exactly what I m wondering too. When I did this method of phone to phone transfer from a 5S to my currently-running SE, it asked me nevertheless if I wanted either an Icloud or an ITunes backup. Shouldn t it have transferred everything from one to another phone (even my music from ITunes) without having me asked it for which backup I wanted to restore from? What s the essence then, in usin the phone to phone method? Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel > El 24 abr 2020, a la(s) 2:19 a.m., Simon A Fogarty > escribi : > > ?Richard and others, > > If you have an old phone with IOS 11 on it then setup is even easier, > > Once you have vo switched on, > And your sim card in, > You get asked if you have a aphone or ipad that you could hold close > to your new phone, And that close procsimatry will allow the phones to talk > to each other and a copy of the data from old to new will be instigated > behind the seens. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 4:43 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from > scratch - all help appreciated > > As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct. > A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to > remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push too > hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great if the > sim removal tool is not in the box. > Yes,
Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated
That's the best idea using your itunes backup to set up your new se 2020. - Original Message - From: "Alan Lemly" To: Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 11:36 AM Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Gera, I did not have a good experience when using the NFC phone to phone setup when upgrading from an iPhone 7 to an iPhone 8. I got some sort of confusing response from the new phone that my Apple ID did not match. Since I had only ever had one Apple ID, I decided at that point to restore from my encrypted iTunes backup which worked fine after the delay to re-download all the apps from the cloud. I believe when I get my SE 2020, I'll just restore from a backup and proceed without the phone to phone transfer. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Exactly what I m wondering too. When I did this method of phone to phone transfer from a 5S to my currently-running SE, it asked me nevertheless if I wanted either an Icloud or an ITunes backup. Shouldn t it have transferred everything from one to another phone (even my music from ITunes) without having me asked it for which backup I wanted to restore from? What s the essence then, in usin the phone to phone method? Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel El 24 abr 2020, a la(s) 2:19 a.m., Simon A Fogarty escribi : ?Richard and others, If you have an old phone with IOS 11 on it then setup is even easier, Once you have vo switched on, And your sim card in, You get asked if you have a aphone or ipad that you could hold close to your new phone, And that close procsimatry will allow the phones to talk to each other and a copy of the data from old to new will be instigated behind the seens. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 4:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct. A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push too hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great if the sim removal tool is not in the box. Yes, triple tapping the home button when you power it on will start VoiceOver. The one risk in setting up from a backup is that if there are any lingering problems, they will be inherited. I'm debating whether to set it up as a new device, then sync with my computer. The advantage to using an encrypted backup is that more settings like passwords are supposed to be included along with email account details. I may even just call Apple Accessibility and have them help walk me through it. Though I'm just stubborn enough to go ahead on my own. But, I would set it up via wifi first, then put in the sim I think. I'll be calling my carrier to double check. Richard On Apr 23, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: ?Eleanor, I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 and will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've never transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your questions. My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see below for other steps you need to do before this. I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing anything else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over the air or to a local computer has changed over the past few years in my opinion. In the past, more things were backed up to a local encrypted iTunes backup than to iCloud but I'm not sure that is still the case. Since your Mac is not available, you should definitely do an iCloud backup before setting up your new SE. To do so: 1. From your iPhone 8, open Settings, and at the top of the list, double tap on your name, Apple ID, iCloud, iTunes and App Store. 2. Swipe to iCloud and double tap. 3. Under the heading Apps using iCloud, swipe to iCloud backup and double tap. 4. Make sure iCloud backup is turned on which will be the first in the list on the screen that opens. Swipe again to the Backup now button and double tap to initiate a current iCloud backup. Give the process a few minutes to complete and you will be given the current time of the latest backup when it's done. I will be following the above steps as well but will also do an encrypted iTunes backup on my Windows 7 computer because I re
Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated
Good article. Sent from my Verizon iPhone 11!! Pro! > On Apr 24, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > > Hi Mike and others, > This article may help: > > https://www.imyfone.com/ios-data-recovery/is-it-better-to-backup-to-icloud-or-computer/ > > > > > Richard > "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon. > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mike B. > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 12:13 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from > scratch - all help appreciated > > Hi Alan, > > Would you or someone please explain the difference between backing up through > my iPhone to iCloud, and backing up through iTunes? I've read mixed opinions > on this and since I backup both my wife's phone and mine both ways I would > like to know which backup to use when we get our new SE 2020 iPhones. Thanks > much. > > Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. > *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee > it cleans the toilet. > - Original Message ----- > From: Alan Lemly > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 9:36 AM > Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from > scratch - all help appreciated > > Gera, > > I did not have a good experience when using the NFC phone to phone setup when > upgrading from an iPhone 7 to an iPhone 8. I got some sort of confusing > response from the new phone that my Apple ID did not match. Since I had only > ever had one Apple ID, I decided at that point to restore from my encrypted > iTunes backup which worked fine after the delay to re-download all the apps > from the cloud. I believe when I get my SE 2020, I'll just restore from a > backup and proceed without the phone to phone transfer. > > Alan Lemly > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Gerardo Corripio > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:35 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from > scratch - all help appreciated > > Exactly what I m wondering too. When I did this method of phone to phone > transfer from a 5S to my currently-running SE, it asked me nevertheless if I > wanted either an Icloud or an ITunes backup. Shouldn t it have transferred > everything from one to another phone (even my music from ITunes) without > having me asked it for which backup I wanted to restore from? What s the > essence then, in usin the phone to phone method? > > Gera > Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel > > > El 24 abr 2020, a la(s) 2:19 a.m., Simon A Fogarty > > escribi : > > > > ?Richard and others, > > > > If you have an old phone with IOS 11 on it then setup is even easier, > > > > Once you have vo switched on, > > And your sim card in, > > You get asked if you have a aphone or ipad that you could hold close > > to your new phone, And that close procsimatry will allow the phones to talk > > to each other and a copy of the data from old to new will be instigated > > behind the seens. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > > Richard Turner > > Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 4:43 AM > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from > > scratch - all help appreciated > > > > As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct. > > A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to > > remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push > > too hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great > > if the sim removal tool is not in the box. > > Yes, triple tapping the home button when you power it on will start > > VoiceOver. > > The one risk in setting up from a backup is that if there are any lingering > > problems, they will be inherited. > > I'm debating whether to set it up as a new device, then sync with my > > computer. > > The advantage to using an encrypted backup is that more settings like > > passwords are supposed to be included along with email account details. > > I may even just call Apple Accessibility and have them help walk me through > > it. > > Though I'm just stubborn enough to go ahead on my own. > > But, I would set it up via wifi first, then put in the sim I think. > > I'll be calling my carrier to doub
RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated
Hi Mike and others, This article may help: https://www.imyfone.com/ios-data-recovery/is-it-better-to-backup-to-icloud-or-computer/ Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 12:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Hi Alan, Would you or someone please explain the difference between backing up through my iPhone to iCloud, and backing up through iTunes? I've read mixed opinions on this and since I backup both my wife's phone and mine both ways I would like to know which backup to use when we get our new SE 2020 iPhones. Thanks much. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet. - Original Message - From: Alan Lemly<mailto:wale...@gmail.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 9:36 AM Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Gera, I did not have a good experience when using the NFC phone to phone setup when upgrading from an iPhone 7 to an iPhone 8. I got some sort of confusing response from the new phone that my Apple ID did not match. Since I had only ever had one Apple ID, I decided at that point to restore from my encrypted iTunes backup which worked fine after the delay to re-download all the apps from the cloud. I believe when I get my SE 2020, I'll just restore from a backup and proceed without the phone to phone transfer. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Exactly what I m wondering too. When I did this method of phone to phone transfer from a 5S to my currently-running SE, it asked me nevertheless if I wanted either an Icloud or an ITunes backup. Shouldn t it have transferred everything from one to another phone (even my music from ITunes) without having me asked it for which backup I wanted to restore from? What s the essence then, in usin the phone to phone method? Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel > El 24 abr 2020, a la(s) 2:19 a.m., Simon A Fogarty > mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> escribi : > > ?Richard and others, > > If you have an old phone with IOS 11 on it then setup is even easier, > > Once you have vo switched on, > And your sim card in, > You get asked if you have a aphone or ipad that you could hold close > to your new phone, And that close procsimatry will allow the phones to talk > to each other and a copy of the data from old to new will be instigated > behind the seens. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 4:43 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from > scratch - all help appreciated > > As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct. > A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to > remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push too > hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great if the > sim removal tool is not in the box. > Yes, triple tapping the home button when you power it on will start VoiceOver. > The one risk in setting up from a backup is that if there are any lingering > problems, they will be inherited. > I'm debating whether to set it up as a new device, then sync with my computer. > The advantage to using an encrypted backup is that more settings like > passwords are supposed to be included along with email account details. > I may even just call Apple Accessibility and have them help walk me through > it. > Though I'm just stubborn enough to go ahead on my own. > But, I would set it up via wifi first, then put in the sim I think. > I'll be calling my carrier to double check. > > > > > Richard > > >> On Apr 23, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Alan Lemly >> mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> ?Eleanor, >> >> >> >> I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 and >> will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've never &g
Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated
Hi Alan, Would you or someone please explain the difference between backing up through my iPhone to iCloud, and backing up through iTunes? I've read mixed opinions on this and since I backup both my wife's phone and mine both ways I would like to know which backup to use when we get our new SE 2020 iPhones. Thanks much. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet. - Original Message - From: Alan Lemly To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 9:36 AM Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Gera, I did not have a good experience when using the NFC phone to phone setup when upgrading from an iPhone 7 to an iPhone 8. I got some sort of confusing response from the new phone that my Apple ID did not match. Since I had only ever had one Apple ID, I decided at that point to restore from my encrypted iTunes backup which worked fine after the delay to re-download all the apps from the cloud. I believe when I get my SE 2020, I'll just restore from a backup and proceed without the phone to phone transfer. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Exactly what I m wondering too. When I did this method of phone to phone transfer from a 5S to my currently-running SE, it asked me nevertheless if I wanted either an Icloud or an ITunes backup. Shouldn t it have transferred everything from one to another phone (even my music from ITunes) without having me asked it for which backup I wanted to restore from? What s the essence then, in usin the phone to phone method? Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel > El 24 abr 2020, a la(s) 2:19 a.m., Simon A Fogarty > escribi : > > ?Richard and others, > > If you have an old phone with IOS 11 on it then setup is even easier, > > Once you have vo switched on, > And your sim card in, > You get asked if you have a aphone or ipad that you could hold close > to your new phone, And that close procsimatry will allow the phones to > talk to each other and a copy of the data from old to new will be > instigated behind the seens. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 4:43 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from > scratch - all help appreciated > > As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct. > A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to > remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push > too hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great > if the sim removal tool is not in the box. > Yes, triple tapping the home button when you power it on will start > VoiceOver. > The one risk in setting up from a backup is that if there are any > lingering problems, they will be inherited. > I'm debating whether to set it up as a new device, then sync with my > computer. > The advantage to using an encrypted backup is that more settings like > passwords are supposed to be included along with email account details. > I may even just call Apple Accessibility and have them help walk me > through it. > Though I'm just stubborn enough to go ahead on my own. > But, I would set it up via wifi first, then put in the sim I think. > I'll be calling my carrier to double check. > > > > > Richard > > >> On Apr 23, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: >> >> ?Eleanor, >> >> >> >> I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 >> and will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've >> never transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your >> questions. >> >> >> >> My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be >> able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see >> below for other steps you need to do before this. >> >> >> >> I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing >> anything else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over >> the air or to a local computer has changed over the past few years in my >> opinion. In the past, more things were backed up to a local encrypted >> iTunes backup than to iCloud but I'm not sure that is still the case. >>
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What happens, with that new slide to type keyboard, when setting up a new phone from scratch? I usually set up a new phone, from an iCloud back-up. Which means i will have to put in my apple ID. Will a new phone use the slide to type, from the start, or will it only kick in, after the phone is up and running, as it could prove difficult, because you can't turn it off, until you can access the settings. Dave. -Original Message- From: Alan Lemly Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Gera, I did not have a good experience when using the NFC phone to phone setup when upgrading from an iPhone 7 to an iPhone 8. I got some sort of confusing response from the new phone that my Apple ID did not match. Since I had only ever had one Apple ID, I decided at that point to restore from my encrypted iTunes backup which worked fine after the delay to re-download all the apps from the cloud. I believe when I get my SE 2020, I'll just restore from a backup and proceed without the phone to phone transfer. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Exactly what I m wondering too. When I did this method of phone to phone transfer from a 5S to my currently-running SE, it asked me nevertheless if I wanted either an Icloud or an ITunes backup. Shouldn t it have transferred everything from one to another phone (even my music from ITunes) without having me asked it for which backup I wanted to restore from? What s the essence then, in usin the phone to phone method? Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel El 24 abr 2020, a la(s) 2:19 a.m., Simon A Fogarty escribi : ?Richard and others, If you have an old phone with IOS 11 on it then setup is even easier, Once you have vo switched on, And your sim card in, You get asked if you have a aphone or ipad that you could hold close to your new phone, And that close procsimatry will allow the phones to talk to each other and a copy of the data from old to new will be instigated behind the seens. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 4:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct. A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push too hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great if the sim removal tool is not in the box. Yes, triple tapping the home button when you power it on will start VoiceOver. The one risk in setting up from a backup is that if there are any lingering problems, they will be inherited. I'm debating whether to set it up as a new device, then sync with my computer. The advantage to using an encrypted backup is that more settings like passwords are supposed to be included along with email account details. I may even just call Apple Accessibility and have them help walk me through it. Though I'm just stubborn enough to go ahead on my own. But, I would set it up via wifi first, then put in the sim I think. I'll be calling my carrier to double check. Richard On Apr 23, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: ?Eleanor, I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 and will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've never transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your questions. My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see below for other steps you need to do before this. I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing anything else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over the air or to a local computer has changed over the past few years in my opinion. In the past, more things were backed up to a local encrypted iTunes backup than to iCloud but I'm not sure that is still the case. Since your Mac is not available, you should definitely do an iCloud backup before setting up your new SE. To do so: 1. From your iPhone 8, open Settings, and at the top of the list, double tap on your name, Apple ID, iCloud, iTunes and App Store. 2. Swipe to iCloud and double tap. 3. Under the heading Apps using iCloud, swipe to iCloud backup and double tap. 4. Make sure iCloud backup is turned on which will be the first in the list on the screen
RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated
Gera, I did not have a good experience when using the NFC phone to phone setup when upgrading from an iPhone 7 to an iPhone 8. I got some sort of confusing response from the new phone that my Apple ID did not match. Since I had only ever had one Apple ID, I decided at that point to restore from my encrypted iTunes backup which worked fine after the delay to re-download all the apps from the cloud. I believe when I get my SE 2020, I'll just restore from a backup and proceed without the phone to phone transfer. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Exactly what I m wondering too. When I did this method of phone to phone transfer from a 5S to my currently-running SE, it asked me nevertheless if I wanted either an Icloud or an ITunes backup. Shouldn t it have transferred everything from one to another phone (even my music from ITunes) without having me asked it for which backup I wanted to restore from? What s the essence then, in usin the phone to phone method? Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel > El 24 abr 2020, a la(s) 2:19 a.m., Simon A Fogarty > escribi : > > ?Richard and others, > > If you have an old phone with IOS 11 on it then setup is even easier, > > Once you have vo switched on, > And your sim card in, > You get asked if you have a aphone or ipad that you could hold close > to your new phone, And that close procsimatry will allow the phones to talk > to each other and a copy of the data from old to new will be instigated > behind the seens. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 4:43 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from > scratch - all help appreciated > > As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct. > A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to > remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push too > hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great if the > sim removal tool is not in the box. > Yes, triple tapping the home button when you power it on will start VoiceOver. > The one risk in setting up from a backup is that if there are any lingering > problems, they will be inherited. > I'm debating whether to set it up as a new device, then sync with my computer. > The advantage to using an encrypted backup is that more settings like > passwords are supposed to be included along with email account details. > I may even just call Apple Accessibility and have them help walk me through > it. > Though I'm just stubborn enough to go ahead on my own. > But, I would set it up via wifi first, then put in the sim I think. > I'll be calling my carrier to double check. > > > > > Richard > > >> On Apr 23, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: >> >> ?Eleanor, >> >> >> >> I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 and >> will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've never >> transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your >> questions. >> >> >> >> My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be >> able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see >> below for other steps you need to do before this. >> >> >> >> I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing >> anything else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over the >> air or to a local computer has changed over the past few years in my >> opinion. In the past, more things were backed up to a local encrypted iTunes >> backup than to iCloud but I'm not sure that is still the case. Since your >> Mac is not available, you should definitely do an iCloud backup before >> setting up your new SE. To do so: >> >> >> >> 1. From your iPhone 8, open Settings, and at the top of the list, >> double tap on your name, Apple ID, iCloud, iTunes and App Store. >> >> 2. Swipe to iCloud and double tap. >> >> 3. Under the heading Apps using iCloud, swipe to iCloud backup and >> double tap. >> >> 4. Make sure iCloud backup is turned on which will be the first in the >> list on the screen that opens. Swipe again to the Backup now button and >> double tap to ini
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When transfering between two phones, is it all or nothing, or can one transfer specific data, such as mail? Thanks for any information. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone Six On Apr 24, 2020, at 10:52 AM, Kathy Brandt wrote: When doing this, you have to make sure that Bluetooth on both devices is on, and, at least initially, you have to position the back camera of your new phone just so in relation to the front of the old phone so that the process gets started. This at least was my experience last time with iPods. You can do a screen share with Apple accessibility to help you. > On Apr 24, 2020, at 3:19 AM, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > > Richard and others, > > If you have an old phone with IOS 11 on it then setup is even easier, > > Once you have vo switched on, > And your sim card in, > You get asked if you have a aphone or ipad that you could hold close to your > new phone, > And that close procsimatry will allow the phones to talk to each other and a > copy of the data from old to new will be instigated behind the seens. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 4:43 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from > scratch - all help appreciated > > As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct. > A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to > remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push too > hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great if the > sim removal tool is not in the box. > Yes, triple tapping the home button when you power it on will start VoiceOver. > The one risk in setting up from a backup is that if there are any lingering > problems, they will be inherited. > I'm debating whether to set it up as a new device, then sync with my computer. > The advantage to using an encrypted backup is that more settings like > passwords are supposed to be included along with email account details. > I may even just call Apple Accessibility and have them help walk me through > it. > Though I'm just stubborn enough to go ahead on my own. > But, I would set it up via wifi first, then put in the sim I think. > I'll be calling my carrier to double check. > > > > > Richard > > >> On Apr 23, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: >> >> Eleanor, >> >> >> >> I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 and >> will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've never >> transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your >> questions. >> >> >> >> My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be >> able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see >> below for other steps you need to do before this. >> >> >> >> I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing >> anything else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over the >> air or to a local computer has changed over the past few years in my >> opinion. In the past, more things were backed up to a local encrypted iTunes >> backup than to iCloud but I'm not sure that is still the case. Since your >> Mac is not available, you should definitely do an iCloud backup before >> setting up your new SE. To do so: >> >> >> >> 1. From your iPhone 8, open Settings, and at the top of the list, >> double tap on your name, Apple ID, iCloud, iTunes and App Store. >> >> 2. Swipe to iCloud and double tap. >> >> 3. Under the heading Apps using iCloud, swipe to iCloud backup and >> double tap. >> >> 4. Make sure iCloud backup is turned on which will be the first in the >> list on the screen that opens. Swipe again to the Backup now button and >> double tap to initiate a current iCloud backup. Give the process a few >> minutes to complete and you will be given the current time of the latest >> backup when it's done. >> >> >> >> I will be following the above steps as well but will also do an encrypted >> iTunes backup on my Windows 7 computer because I really don't believe you >> can have too many backups. >> >> >> >> I've never transferred a SIM card myself because my previous new iPhones >> came with SIM cards. However, since I've switched to a Verizon prepaid plan >> recently, my SE 2020 will not have a SIM card. In portrait mode with your >> iPhone 8's
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When doing this, you have to make sure that Bluetooth on both devices is on, and, at least initially, you have to position the back camera of your new phone just so in relation to the front of the old phone so that the process gets started. This at least was my experience last time with iPods. You can do a screen share with Apple accessibility to help you. > On Apr 24, 2020, at 3:19 AM, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > > Richard and others, > > If you have an old phone with IOS 11 on it then setup is even easier, > > Once you have vo switched on, > And your sim card in, > You get asked if you have a aphone or ipad that you could hold close to your > new phone, > And that close procsimatry will allow the phones to talk to each other and a > copy of the data from old to new will be instigated behind the seens. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 4:43 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from > scratch - all help appreciated > > As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct. > A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to > remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push too > hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great if the > sim removal tool is not in the box. > Yes, triple tapping the home button when you power it on will start VoiceOver. > The one risk in setting up from a backup is that if there are any lingering > problems, they will be inherited. > I'm debating whether to set it up as a new device, then sync with my computer. > The advantage to using an encrypted backup is that more settings like > passwords are supposed to be included along with email account details. > I may even just call Apple Accessibility and have them help walk me through > it. > Though I'm just stubborn enough to go ahead on my own. > But, I would set it up via wifi first, then put in the sim I think. > I'll be calling my carrier to double check. > > > > > Richard > > >> On Apr 23, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: >> >> Eleanor, >> >> >> >> I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 and >> will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've never >> transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your >> questions. >> >> >> >> My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be >> able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see >> below for other steps you need to do before this. >> >> >> >> I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing >> anything else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over the >> air or to a local computer has changed over the past few years in my >> opinion. In the past, more things were backed up to a local encrypted iTunes >> backup than to iCloud but I'm not sure that is still the case. Since your >> Mac is not available, you should definitely do an iCloud backup before >> setting up your new SE. To do so: >> >> >> >> 1. From your iPhone 8, open Settings, and at the top of the list, >> double tap on your name, Apple ID, iCloud, iTunes and App Store. >> >> 2. Swipe to iCloud and double tap. >> >> 3. Under the heading Apps using iCloud, swipe to iCloud backup and >> double tap. >> >> 4. Make sure iCloud backup is turned on which will be the first in the >> list on the screen that opens. Swipe again to the Backup now button and >> double tap to initiate a current iCloud backup. Give the process a few >> minutes to complete and you will be given the current time of the latest >> backup when it's done. >> >> >> >> I will be following the above steps as well but will also do an encrypted >> iTunes backup on my Windows 7 computer because I really don't believe you >> can have too many backups. >> >> >> >> I've never transferred a SIM card myself because my previous new iPhones >> came with SIM cards. However, since I've switched to a Verizon prepaid plan >> recently, my SE 2020 will not have a SIM card. In portrait mode with your >> iPhone 8's power button near the top right edge, the SIM release hole will >> be in the very middle of that right edge below the power button. You will >> need a SIM card removal tool or a push pin or an unfolded paper clip to ha
RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated
Transferring from one phone to another often does work very well, but just keep in mind that just holding the phones close is not enough, you will have to scan a code which I believe is displayed on your old phone and you have to scan it with the camera on the new phone. It could be the other way around, don't remember, but it will tell you exactly what to do. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 3:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Exactly what I’m wondering too. When I did this method of phone to phone transfer from a 5S to my currently-running SE, it asked me nevertheless if I wanted either an Icloud or an ITunes backup. Shouldn’t it have transferred everything from one to another phone (even my music from ITunes) without having me asked it for which backup I wanted to restore from? What’s the essence then, in usin the phone to phone method? Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel > El 24 abr 2020, a la(s) 2:19 a.m., Simon A Fogarty > escribió: > > Richard and others, > > If you have an old phone with IOS 11 on it then setup is even easier, > > Once you have vo switched on, > And your sim card in, > You get asked if you have a aphone or ipad that you could hold close > to your new phone, And that close procsimatry will allow the phones to talk > to each other and a copy of the data from old to new will be instigated > behind the seens. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 4:43 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from > scratch - all help appreciated > > As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct. > A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to > remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push too > hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great if the > sim removal tool is not in the box. > Yes, triple tapping the home button when you power it on will start VoiceOver. > The one risk in setting up from a backup is that if there are any lingering > problems, they will be inherited. > I'm debating whether to set it up as a new device, then sync with my computer. > The advantage to using an encrypted backup is that more settings like > passwords are supposed to be included along with email account details. > I may even just call Apple Accessibility and have them help walk me through > it. > Though I'm just stubborn enough to go ahead on my own. > But, I would set it up via wifi first, then put in the sim I think. > I'll be calling my carrier to double check. > > > > > Richard > > >> On Apr 23, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: >> >> Eleanor, >> >> >> >> I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 and >> will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've never >> transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your >> questions. >> >> >> >> My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be >> able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see >> below for other steps you need to do before this. >> >> >> >> I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing >> anything else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over the >> air or to a local computer has changed over the past few years in my >> opinion. In the past, more things were backed up to a local encrypted iTunes >> backup than to iCloud but I'm not sure that is still the case. Since your >> Mac is not available, you should definitely do an iCloud backup before >> setting up your new SE. To do so: >> >> >> >> 1. From your iPhone 8, open Settings, and at the top of the list, >> double tap on your name, Apple ID, iCloud, iTunes and App Store. >> >> 2. Swipe to iCloud and double tap. >> >> 3. Under the heading Apps using iCloud, swipe to iCloud backup and >> double tap. >> >> 4. Make sure iCloud backup is turned on which will be the first in the >> list on the screen that opens. Swipe again to the Backup now button and >> double tap to initiate a current iCloud backup. Give the process a few >> minutes to complete and you will be given the current time of the latest >> backup when it's done. >> >> >>
Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated
Exactly what I’m wondering too. When I did this method of phone to phone transfer from a 5S to my currently-running SE, it asked me nevertheless if I wanted either an Icloud or an ITunes backup. Shouldn’t it have transferred everything from one to another phone (even my music from ITunes) without having me asked it for which backup I wanted to restore from? What’s the essence then, in usin the phone to phone method? Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel > El 24 abr 2020, a la(s) 2:19 a.m., Simon A Fogarty > escribió: > > Richard and others, > > If you have an old phone with IOS 11 on it then setup is even easier, > > Once you have vo switched on, > And your sim card in, > You get asked if you have a aphone or ipad that you could hold close to your > new phone, > And that close procsimatry will allow the phones to talk to each other and a > copy of the data from old to new will be instigated behind the seens. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 4:43 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from > scratch - all help appreciated > > As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct. > A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to > remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push too > hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great if the > sim removal tool is not in the box. > Yes, triple tapping the home button when you power it on will start VoiceOver. > The one risk in setting up from a backup is that if there are any lingering > problems, they will be inherited. > I'm debating whether to set it up as a new device, then sync with my computer. > The advantage to using an encrypted backup is that more settings like > passwords are supposed to be included along with email account details. > I may even just call Apple Accessibility and have them help walk me through > it. > Though I'm just stubborn enough to go ahead on my own. > But, I would set it up via wifi first, then put in the sim I think. > I'll be calling my carrier to double check. > > > > > Richard > > >> On Apr 23, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: >> >> Eleanor, >> >> >> >> I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 and >> will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've never >> transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your >> questions. >> >> >> >> My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be >> able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see >> below for other steps you need to do before this. >> >> >> >> I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing >> anything else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over the >> air or to a local computer has changed over the past few years in my >> opinion. In the past, more things were backed up to a local encrypted iTunes >> backup than to iCloud but I'm not sure that is still the case. Since your >> Mac is not available, you should definitely do an iCloud backup before >> setting up your new SE. To do so: >> >> >> >> 1. From your iPhone 8, open Settings, and at the top of the list, >> double tap on your name, Apple ID, iCloud, iTunes and App Store. >> >> 2. Swipe to iCloud and double tap. >> >> 3. Under the heading Apps using iCloud, swipe to iCloud backup and >> double tap. >> >> 4. Make sure iCloud backup is turned on which will be the first in the >> list on the screen that opens. Swipe again to the Backup now button and >> double tap to initiate a current iCloud backup. Give the process a few >> minutes to complete and you will be given the current time of the latest >> backup when it's done. >> >> >> >> I will be following the above steps as well but will also do an encrypted >> iTunes backup on my Windows 7 computer because I really don't believe you >> can have too many backups. >> >> >> >> I've never transferred a SIM card myself because my previous new iPhones >> came with SIM cards. However, since I've switched to a Verizon prepaid plan >> recently, my SE 2020 will not have a SIM card. In portrait mode with your >> iPhone 8's power button near the top right edge, the SIM release hole will >> be in the very middle of that right edge below
RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated
Richard and others, If you have an old phone with IOS 11 on it then setup is even easier, Once you have vo switched on, And your sim card in, You get asked if you have a aphone or ipad that you could hold close to your new phone, And that close procsimatry will allow the phones to talk to each other and a copy of the data from old to new will be instigated behind the seens. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 4:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct. A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push too hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great if the sim removal tool is not in the box. Yes, triple tapping the home button when you power it on will start VoiceOver. The one risk in setting up from a backup is that if there are any lingering problems, they will be inherited. I'm debating whether to set it up as a new device, then sync with my computer. The advantage to using an encrypted backup is that more settings like passwords are supposed to be included along with email account details. I may even just call Apple Accessibility and have them help walk me through it. Though I'm just stubborn enough to go ahead on my own. But, I would set it up via wifi first, then put in the sim I think. I'll be calling my carrier to double check. Richard > On Apr 23, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: > > Eleanor, > > > > I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 and > will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've never > transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your questions. > > > > My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be > able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see > below for other steps you need to do before this. > > > > I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing > anything else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over the > air or to a local computer has changed over the past few years in my opinion. > In the past, more things were backed up to a local encrypted iTunes backup > than to iCloud but I'm not sure that is still the case. Since your Mac is not > available, you should definitely do an iCloud backup before setting up your > new SE. To do so: > > > > 1. From your iPhone 8, open Settings, and at the top of the list, double > tap on your name, Apple ID, iCloud, iTunes and App Store. > > 2. Swipe to iCloud and double tap. > > 3. Under the heading Apps using iCloud, swipe to iCloud backup and > double tap. > > 4. Make sure iCloud backup is turned on which will be the first in the > list on the screen that opens. Swipe again to the Backup now button and > double tap to initiate a current iCloud backup. Give the process a few > minutes to complete and you will be given the current time of the latest > backup when it's done. > > > > I will be following the above steps as well but will also do an encrypted > iTunes backup on my Windows 7 computer because I really don't believe you can > have too many backups. > > > > I've never transferred a SIM card myself because my previous new iPhones came > with SIM cards. However, since I've switched to a Verizon prepaid plan > recently, my SE 2020 will not have a SIM card. In portrait mode with your > iPhone 8's power button near the top right edge, the SIM release hole will > be in the very middle of that right edge below the power button. You will > need a SIM card removal tool or a push pin or an unfolded paper clip to have > something to insert slowly into the SIM removal hole in order to release its > tray. I personally think a push pin like I used to use on a cork bulletin > board works the best because it is easier to hold onto and apply any needed > pressure. If you have such a thing, I would recommend doing the SIM removal > over a tray with raised edges to provide something to catch the SIM to be > removed should it decide to leap out. This is really all the practical advice > I can give since I've never replaced a SIM myself. My understanding is that > they only go in one way and I believe one of their corners may be notched to > provide for this one way only insertion but I expect others will be able to > offer much more detailed advice. > > > > Since I only set up new iPhones every couple of years, I don't remember
RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated
Turn it on, Press the home button three times quickly and listen to the voiceover voices in your head! -Original Message- From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 1:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Hi all After any advice/help from people on this list with this situation. I’ve ordered a new IPhone SE, and have just had confirmation of its despatch. So have some questions re setting it up which I’m hoping people might be able to assist with. Firstly, I know this sounds somewhat daft, but if anyone could e-mail me some idiot-proof instructions on how to set it up from scratch, including on how to get Voiceover started from the word go I’d be really grateful please?. I’m far more nervous about doing it than normal, probably because I know all the shops are closed, and sighted friends who would normally be able to assist me can’t do so at the moment due to the lockdown. So any step-by-step guide much appreciated. Secondly, is it better to set the phone up over the air?, or is it better to set it up through my Mac? I ask this because my Mac is currently away being fixed/serviced. So I just wondered whether it would make any difference which way I did it?, and if so whether I should wait for my Mac to return before attempting set-up? Finally, can anyone send me some step-by-step idiots instructions on how to swap my SIM card over from my currrent IPhone 8 to the new SE?? I’ve never done this before, and again, in normal times I’d happily get sighted help with this, but obviously I can’t do that right now. So any help appreciated. My apologies for all the questions, but I really don’t want to make a mess of this/muck it up completely/ruin the new phone/etc. So many thanks in advance for any help/advice that anyone can give me. Eleanor Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/8C7C56F7-0DC7-4463-97FD-AD4F14F16205%40googlemail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SYCPR01MB40485574268D8E52C54EE14D8AD00%40SYCPR01MB4048.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com.
RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated
The most important thing with the SIM is to make sure you don't turn it around or flip it over after taking it out of your old phone. The Nano SIM cards are so tiny that it's somewhat difficult to feel which side is up and which side goes into the phone first. In other words, don't drop it. I find it easiest to sit at a table or desk, put down the new phone after you take it out of the box and remove the screen protectors and pop out the SIM tray. Then take your old phone, pop out the SIM tray and pull it out completely, carefully take the SIM card and put it on the tray of the new phone and slide it in. I would be prepared to call Be my Eyes or Aira with your old phone, as long as you are connected to your WiFi you can easily do this even with the SIM removed, just in case you need help to figure out how to put in the SIM card. Of course if you had a family member there to do it or help that would be best if you can't ask or don't want to ask another sighted person to do it. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:05 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Richard, Maybe you could summarize your experience after you get your SE 2020 up and working. When it comes to SIM removal, extra care is the order of the day whether using a push pin, a unfolded paper clip, or a SIM removal tool. They all have pretty sharp points and the key is to ensure that point gets in the SIM tray hole with utmost care in order to avoid scratching the device. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 11:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct. A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push too hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great if the sim removal tool is not in the box. Yes, triple tapping the home button when you power it on will start VoiceOver. The one risk in setting up from a backup is that if there are any lingering problems, they will be inherited. I'm debating whether to set it up as a new device, then sync with my computer. The advantage to using an encrypted backup is that more settings like passwords are supposed to be included along with email account details. I may even just call Apple Accessibility and have them help walk me through it. Though I'm just stubborn enough to go ahead on my own. But, I would set it up via wifi first, then put in the sim I think. I'll be calling my carrier to double check. Richard > On Apr 23, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: > > ?Eleanor, > > > > I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 and > will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've never > transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your questions. > > > > My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be > able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see > below for other steps you need to do before this. > > > > I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing > anything else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over the > air or to a local computer has changed over the past few years in my opinion. > In the past, more things were backed up to a local encrypted iTunes backup > than to iCloud but I'm not sure that is still the case. Since your Mac is not > available, you should definitely do an iCloud backup before setting up your > new SE. To do so: > > > > 1. From your iPhone 8, open Settings, and at the top of the list, double > tap on your name, Apple ID, iCloud, iTunes and App Store. > > 2. Swipe to iCloud and double tap. > > 3. Under the heading Apps using iCloud, swipe to iCloud backup and > double tap. > > 4. Make sure iCloud backup is turned on which will be the first in the > list on the screen that opens. Swipe again to the Backup now button and > double tap to initiate a current iCloud backup. Give the process a few > minutes to complete and you will be given the current time of the latest > backup when it's done. > > > > I will be following the above steps as well but will also do an encrypted > iTunes backup on my Windows 7 computer because I really don't believe you can > have too many backups. > > > > I've never transferred a SIM card myself b
RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated
Richard, Maybe you could summarize your experience after you get your SE 2020 up and working. When it comes to SIM removal, extra care is the order of the day whether using a push pin, a unfolded paper clip, or a SIM removal tool. They all have pretty sharp points and the key is to ensure that point gets in the SIM tray hole with utmost care in order to avoid scratching the device. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 11:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct. A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push too hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great if the sim removal tool is not in the box. Yes, triple tapping the home button when you power it on will start VoiceOver. The one risk in setting up from a backup is that if there are any lingering problems, they will be inherited. I'm debating whether to set it up as a new device, then sync with my computer. The advantage to using an encrypted backup is that more settings like passwords are supposed to be included along with email account details. I may even just call Apple Accessibility and have them help walk me through it. Though I'm just stubborn enough to go ahead on my own. But, I would set it up via wifi first, then put in the sim I think. I'll be calling my carrier to double check. Richard > On Apr 23, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: > > ?Eleanor, > > > > I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 and > will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've never > transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your questions. > > > > My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be > able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see > below for other steps you need to do before this. > > > > I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing > anything else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over the > air or to a local computer has changed over the past few years in my opinion. > In the past, more things were backed up to a local encrypted iTunes backup > than to iCloud but I'm not sure that is still the case. Since your Mac is not > available, you should definitely do an iCloud backup before setting up your > new SE. To do so: > > > > 1. From your iPhone 8, open Settings, and at the top of the list, double > tap on your name, Apple ID, iCloud, iTunes and App Store. > > 2. Swipe to iCloud and double tap. > > 3. Under the heading Apps using iCloud, swipe to iCloud backup and > double tap. > > 4. Make sure iCloud backup is turned on which will be the first in the > list on the screen that opens. Swipe again to the Backup now button and > double tap to initiate a current iCloud backup. Give the process a few > minutes to complete and you will be given the current time of the latest > backup when it's done. > > > > I will be following the above steps as well but will also do an encrypted > iTunes backup on my Windows 7 computer because I really don't believe you can > have too many backups. > > > > I've never transferred a SIM card myself because my previous new iPhones came > with SIM cards. However, since I've switched to a Verizon prepaid plan > recently, my SE 2020 will not have a SIM card. In portrait mode with your > iPhone 8's power button near the top right edge, the SIM release hole will > be in the very middle of that right edge below the power button. You will > need a SIM card removal tool or a push pin or an unfolded paper clip to have > something to insert slowly into the SIM removal hole in order to release its > tray. I personally think a push pin like I used to use on a cork bulletin > board works the best because it is easier to hold onto and apply any needed > pressure. If you have such a thing, I would recommend doing the SIM removal > over a tray with raised edges to provide something to catch the SIM to be > removed should it decide to leap out. This is really all the practical advice > I can give since I've never replaced a SIM myself. My understanding is that > they only go in one way and I believe one of their corners may be notched to > provide for this one way only insertion but I expect others will be able to > offer much more detailed advice. > > > > Since I only set
Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated
Alan, those instructions sound helpful and good. While I haven't set up any of our se phones when new, and put sim cards in the phones, Wayne's done that . He does really well with putting the sim card in the phone and I'm glad he can do that well, since just the thought of it makes me nervous. From listening to him setting up the phones and when he told me how he handles putting the sim card in, your instructions are very clear, and Wayne said you explained very well how to do it. and the Turtles are one of my most favorite groups, and I think Eleanor is swell too. I don't know if I'll ever switch or put in a new sim card, as I said just the thought of it makes me nervous, but the most important thing to do, while you're doing the inserting of the sim card, just make sure to do it over something, just in case it falls, this way if you're doing it over a box or table you'll be able to find it. I think I'll have Wayne show me how to do it, it would probably be a good thing to get use to doing for when I might need too. Arlene - Original Message - From: "Alan Lemly" To: Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:26 AM Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Eleanor, I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 and will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've never transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your questions. My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see below for other steps you need to do before this. I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing anything else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over the air or to a local computer has changed over the past few years in my opinion. In the past, more things were backed up to a local encrypted iTunes backup than to iCloud but I'm not sure that is still the case. Since your Mac is not available, you should definitely do an iCloud backup before setting up your new SE. To do so: 1. From your iPhone 8, open Settings, and at the top of the list, double tap on your name, Apple ID, iCloud, iTunes and App Store. 2. Swipe to iCloud and double tap. 3. Under the heading Apps using iCloud, swipe to iCloud backup and double tap. 4. Make sure iCloud backup is turned on which will be the first in the list on the screen that opens. Swipe again to the Backup now button and double tap to initiate a current iCloud backup. Give the process a few minutes to complete and you will be given the current time of the latest backup when it's done. I will be following the above steps as well but will also do an encrypted iTunes backup on my Windows 7 computer because I really don't believe you can have too many backups. I've never transferred a SIM card myself because my previous new iPhones came with SIM cards. However, since I've switched to a Verizon prepaid plan recently, my SE 2020 will not have a SIM card. In portrait mode with your iPhone 8's power button near the top right edge, the SIM release hole will be in the very middle of that right edge below the power button. You will need a SIM card removal tool or a push pin or an unfolded paper clip to have something to insert slowly into the SIM removal hole in order to release its tray. I personally think a push pin like I used to use on a cork bulletin board works the best because it is easier to hold onto and apply any needed pressure. If you have such a thing, I would recommend doing the SIM removal over a tray with raised edges to provide something to catch the SIM to be removed should it decide to leap out. This is really all the practical advice I can give since I've never replaced a SIM myself. My understanding is that they only go in one way and I believe one of their corners may be notched to provide for this one way only insertion but I expect others will be able to offer much more detailed advice. Since I only set up new iPhones every couple of years, I don't remember exactly what Voiceover will say when setting up your new SE but I believe it offers you the choice of setting it up as a new device or from restoring a backup. I always restore from a backup. Also, I'm not sure when the best time is for you to transfer your SIM from your iPhone 8 to your new SE. My cautionary side tells me to do this after the new phone is set up so you'll have a device that works until you're ready to make the new one a workable cell phone. I would think all your apps and settings should download from the cloud just fine and the new SE would work like a WiFi only device until you transfer the SIM to it but others more experienced than I will have to comment on this. I hope the above will be somewhat helpful. Finally, my
Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated
e until you > transfer the SIM to it but others more experienced than I will have to > comment on this. > > > > I hope the above will be somewhat helpful. Finally, my apologies to you, the > list, and the Turtles but I just have to close by saying Eleanor, gee I think > you're swell. I'm a fan of 60's music. > > > > Alan Lemly > > > > -Original Message- > From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 8:20 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - > all help appreciated > > > > Hi all > > > > After any advice/help from people on this list with this situation. I�ve > ordered a new IPhone SE, and have just had confirmation of its despatch. So > have some questions re setting it up which I�m hoping people might be able to > assist with. > > > > Firstly, I know this sounds somewhat daft, but if anyone could e-mail me some > idiot-proof instructions on how to set it up from scratch, including on how > to get Voiceover started from the word go I�d be really grateful please?. I�m > far more nervous about doing it than normal, probably because I know all the > shops are closed, and sighted friends who would normally be able to assist me > can�t do so at the moment due to the lockdown. So any step-by-step guide much > appreciated. > > > > Secondly, is it better to set the phone up over the air?, or is it better to > set it up through my Mac? I ask this because my Mac is currently away being > fixed/serviced. So I just wondered whether it would make any difference which > way I did it?, and if so whether I should wait for my Mac to return before > attempting set-up? > > > > Finally, can anyone send me some step-by-step idiots instructions on how to > swap my SIM card over from my currrent IPhone 8 to the new SE?? I�ve never > done this before, and again, in normal times I�d happily get sighted help > with this, but obviously I can�t do that right now. So any help appreciated. > > > > My apologies for all the questions, but I really don�t want to make a mess of > this/muck it up completely/ruin the new phone/etc. So many thanks in advance > for any help/advice that anyone can give me. > > > > Eleanor > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > -- > > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C1143759f91324a8b8cc008d7e79aba7b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637232524040427500sdata=HWJ73Fsa7xudZv4M6EPSNwajq7G9ecCgYkyC6vwobpw%3Dreserved=0> > > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C1143759f91324a8b8cc008d7e79aba7b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637232524040432494sdata=cTyZfRzRAZQAgKMslKiHBLrAw7XFYIPyh%2BB1DctdNQQ%3Dreserved=0 > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F8C7C56F7-0DC7-4463-97FD-AD4F14F16205%2540googlemail.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C1143759f91324a8b8cc008d7e79aba7b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637232524040432494sdata=zx2QjBCX7%2B6yiQJ0zQFO54IZtPq45zCfkxuz8dxxkf0%3Dreserved=0> > > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F8C7C56F7-0DC7-4463-97FD-AD4F14F16205%2540googlemail.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C1143759f91324a8b8cc008d7e79aba7b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637232524040432494sdata=zx2QjBCX7%2B6yiQJ0zQFO54IZtPq45zCfkxuz8dxxkf0%3Dreserved=0. > >
RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated
Eleanor, I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 and will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've never transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your questions. My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see below for other steps you need to do before this. I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing anything else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over the air or to a local computer has changed over the past few years in my opinion. In the past, more things were backed up to a local encrypted iTunes backup than to iCloud but I'm not sure that is still the case. Since your Mac is not available, you should definitely do an iCloud backup before setting up your new SE. To do so: 1. From your iPhone 8, open Settings, and at the top of the list, double tap on your name, Apple ID, iCloud, iTunes and App Store. 2. Swipe to iCloud and double tap. 3. Under the heading Apps using iCloud, swipe to iCloud backup and double tap. 4. Make sure iCloud backup is turned on which will be the first in the list on the screen that opens. Swipe again to the Backup now button and double tap to initiate a current iCloud backup. Give the process a few minutes to complete and you will be given the current time of the latest backup when it's done. I will be following the above steps as well but will also do an encrypted iTunes backup on my Windows 7 computer because I really don't believe you can have too many backups. I've never transferred a SIM card myself because my previous new iPhones came with SIM cards. However, since I've switched to a Verizon prepaid plan recently, my SE 2020 will not have a SIM card. In portrait mode with your iPhone 8's power button near the top right edge, the SIM release hole will be in the very middle of that right edge below the power button. You will need a SIM card removal tool or a push pin or an unfolded paper clip to have something to insert slowly into the SIM removal hole in order to release its tray. I personally think a push pin like I used to use on a cork bulletin board works the best because it is easier to hold onto and apply any needed pressure. If you have such a thing, I would recommend doing the SIM removal over a tray with raised edges to provide something to catch the SIM to be removed should it decide to leap out. This is really all the practical advice I can give since I've never replaced a SIM myself. My understanding is that they only go in one way and I believe one of their corners may be notched to provide for this one way only insertion but I expect others will be able to offer much more detailed advice. Since I only set up new iPhones every couple of years, I don't remember exactly what Voiceover will say when setting up your new SE but I believe it offers you the choice of setting it up as a new device or from restoring a backup. I always restore from a backup. Also, I'm not sure when the best time is for you to transfer your SIM from your iPhone 8 to your new SE. My cautionary side tells me to do this after the new phone is set up so you'll have a device that works until you're ready to make the new one a workable cell phone. I would think all your apps and settings should download from the cloud just fine and the new SE would work like a WiFi only device until you transfer the SIM to it but others more experienced than I will have to comment on this. I hope the above will be somewhat helpful. Finally, my apologies to you, the list, and the Turtles but I just have to close by saying Eleanor, gee I think you're swell. I'm a fan of 60's music. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 8:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Hi all After any advice/help from people on this list with this situation. I�ve ordered a new IPhone SE, and have just had confirmation of its despatch. So have some questions re setting it up which I�m hoping people might be able to assist with. Firstly, I know this sounds somewhat daft, but if anyone could e-mail me some idiot-proof instructions on how to set it up from scratch, including on how to get Voiceover started from the word go I�d be really grateful please?. I�m far more nervous about doing it than normal, probably because I know all the shops are closed, and sighted friends who would normally be able to assist me can�t do so at the moment due to the lockdown. So any step-by-step guide much appreciated. Secondly, is it better to set the phone up over the air?, or is it better to set it up through my
