RE: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-15 Thread Carolyn Arnold
Ha ha ha ha - never too old! 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 12:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones

Hi Carol,

Good thing they didn't call the iPhone XS the iPhone XY because then if you 
liked the SE and the XY everybody would call you the SEXY girld *smile*!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones

Me too - I'm a SE girl! 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Mike Capelle
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

same here, i am happy with my se.

-Original Message-
From: Dave
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

Likewise.

Dave.


-Original Message-
From: Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones

I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.

On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new 
> iphones that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form 
> factor, the Iphone XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone 
> XS max sounds like it's the plus version with a larger screen, and the 
> Iphone XR is the cheaper version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as 
> Apple's budget iphone models and the Iphone SE has been discontinued.
> This means that Apple no longer sells any phones with a small form 
> factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got an iphone 8 and iphone 
> SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting any of these new 
> ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the home button 
> yet either.
>
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RE: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Carol,

Good thing they didn't call the iPhone XS the iPhone XY because then if you 
liked the SE and the XY everybody would call you the SEXY girld *smile*!

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones

Me too - I'm a SE girl! 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Mike Capelle
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:04 PM
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Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

same here, i am happy with my se.

-Original Message-
From: Dave
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:00 PM
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Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

Likewise.

Dave.


-Original Message-
From: Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones

I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
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Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.

On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new 
> iphones that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form 
> factor, the Iphone XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone 
> XS max sounds like it's the plus version with a larger screen, and the 
> Iphone XR is the cheaper version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as 
> Apple's budget iphone models and the Iphone SE has been discontinued. 
> This means that Apple no longer sells any phones with a small form 
> factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got an iphone 8 and iphone 
> SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting any of these new 
> ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the home button 
> yet either.
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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-14 Thread Gerardo Corripio
I’m very happy with this SE, though I do wish Apple would have thought better, 
and have gotten out a 2nd Generation SE. I know that in May of 2020 when my 
Telcel plan needs renewing, I’d have to go with at least a 7 or 8, but kind of 
hessitant to do this because of me wearing hearing aids and these not have 
bluetooth capabilities in them, and he lack of a headphone jack, owuld kind of 
make my life not too pleasant; I use my iPhone for reading, and music. Also the 
phone’s size of the 7 and upwards, isn’t to my taste too much. There’s nothing 
better than these smaller phones! Or who knows maybe Apple will have a March 
event, in which they’ll come out with a 2nd Generation SE? I guess we’ll just 
have to wait and see what happens?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 13/09/2018, a la(s) 11:50 a. m., Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> 
escribió:

> Me too - I'm a SE girl! 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mike Capelle
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
> 
> same here, i am happy with my se.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
> 
> Likewise.
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Sarai Bucciarelli
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones
> 
> I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.
> 
> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
> brown
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
> 
> Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.
> 
>> On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new 
>> iphones that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form 
>> factor, the Iphone XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone 
>> XS max sounds like it's the plus version with a larger screen, and the 
>> Iphone XR is the cheaper version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as 
>> Apple's budget iphone models and the Iphone SE has been discontinued. 
>> This means that Apple no longer sells any phones with a small form 
>> factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got an iphone 8 and iphone 
>> SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting any of these new 
>> ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the home button 
>> yet either.
>> 
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RE: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-13 Thread Cris Ali
Thanks Mary.  That helps.   

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

Hi Chris,
If you have never used 3D Touch, you would be missing nothing. Seeing as how 
you’re not used to it. Smile. I don’t use it very much. It gives you immediate 
access to certain things and certain apps. But it’s a learning curve, and you 
have to get used to using it to get that access. Pretty much the only reason I 
use it these days is in the notification area, where you can use it to get rid 
of all the notifications at one go. I understand that with iOS 12, 
notifications are going to be group differently. So I’m hoping that the absence 
of 3D Touch won’t be A big deal. If I do upgrade this year it’s going to be for 
the XR, because the version has the T-Mobile band in the 600 range which might 
be very helpful to me out here in Oregon.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:01 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> Hello Folks,
> I have never used a phone with 3D touch.  I am wondering, What are the 
> advantages of having a 3D touch iPhone?  What would I be missing, for 
> instance, If I order the iPhone XR which does not have the 3D touch 
> feature?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
> 
> Correct about the no 3D Touch. That haptic thing is just going to let you 
> into the camera, useless for me, but there might be others who will find it 
> useful who are blind. I’m sure it will be OK for sighted people who like to 
> take pictures. I don’t use 3D Touch all that much. And it supports the 
> T-Mobile band that they activated last year. That’s a big plus for me as a 
> T-Mobile customer. I would gladly trade 3D Touch for the new T-Mobile support.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 5:26 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>> 
>> No 3D Touch, but what they called Haptic something. I guess more than a step 
>> backwards, is because the type of display being used on the XR, isn’t 
>> compatible with 3D touch? it’d be interesting to see if the Haptic feature 
>> works like 3D touch if you guys get one of these soon.
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>> 
>> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:21 p. m., Dave  escribió:
>> 
>>> I think it said, there was no 3D touch, on the XR.
>>> 
>>> If this is true, then it is a backward step.
>>> 
>>> Dave.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Gerardo Corripio
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:15 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>>> 
>>> I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money would 
>>> allow, when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.
>>> 
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>>> 
>>> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave  
>>> escribió:
>>> 
>>>> Likewise.
>>>> 
>>>> Dave.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones
>>>> 
>>>> I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.
>>>> 
>>>> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of lenron brown
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>>>> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 
>>>>> new iphones that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X 
>>>>> form factor, the Iphone XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, 
>>>>> the Iphone XS max sounds like it's the plus version with a larger 
>>>>> screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper version. The iphone 7 and
>>>>> 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and the Iphone SE 
>>>>> has been discontinued. This m

Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-13 Thread Nimer Jaber
During the event, they mentioned that the iPhone has four stereo
microphones. And that the device would record in stereo. Not sure why blind
people like raising the alarm about things they don't understand or know
about.

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 4:40 PM Richard Turner 
wrote:

>
> I would be very much surprised if Apple is going to make it so only videos
> record in stereo, since the stereo is only involved in the sound portion of
> a video. I am quite sure if you record audio it will be in stereo.
> After all, they are pushing the camera portion of the phones so why would
> they mention audio recording?
> Time will tell.
> Richard
>
>
> "The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing at the
> right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment." -
> Dorothy Nevill
>
>
>
> [Sent from my little hand-held computer]
>
>
> On Sep 13, 2018, at 3:14 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>
> We'll just have to wait and see. I share your cynicism of Apple, but they
> get some things right, sometimes.
>
> Devin Prater
> Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the Blind
> JAWS certified
>
> On Sep 13, 2018, at 5:12 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>
> Devin;
>
> Apple is only going to incorporate into there iPhones what sells.
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
>
> On Sep 13, 2018, at 4:51 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>
> If it's only for video, I'd be pretty mad at Apple, for a while.
>
> Devin Prater
> Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the Blind
> JAWS certified
>
> On Sep 13, 2018, at 3:41 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>
> Interesting, because they do seem to mention microphone twice. That would
> imply two microphones I guess if I’m reading this right. I saw exactly
> nothing about 3D Touch however. There is a lot of stuff on that page, I
> might’ve missed it. But I sure didn’t see it. Also, as Jonathan noted
> yesterday, stereo recording was referenced under the video section, which
> kind of makes me wonder if it will be available as a standalone feature. I
> certainly hope so. I personally probably wouldn’t use it, but I’m sure
> plenty of people would.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 13, 2018, at 1:20 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>
> Here's all the source you could ever need, and it's right from Apple, so
> no fake news here. :)
> https://www.apple.com/iphone-xr/specs/
> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.apple.com%2Fiphone-xr%2Fspecs%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5c3befbefe9545e3b3a008d619c64b6b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636724736786679647&sdata=B9zROKqk4vB0W7UPznhjxA8KmseYhgrN1mgNSXQuEFw%3D&reserved=0>
>
> Devin Prater
> Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the Blind
> JAWS certified
>
> On Sep 13, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>
> I use 3D Touch for  afew things, but I think that a double tap and
> hold with 1 finger can basically do the same as 3D touch. I will be
> upgrading--but to an 8 Plus. I have the 7 Plus. I'm going to hang onto
> touch ID as long as I can. I'm sure that Face ID will continue to
> improve. I have no doubt that I can use the new gestures, but there's
> nothing like unlocking with a finger, and the speed and reliability
> that gives. It's not just blind people who say this; I've heard some
> folks on TWIT say the same thing, just yesterday in fact when
> listening to the presentation, one of the commentators said he prefers
> touch ID over facial recognition.
>
> Wayne
>
> On 9/13/18, Jim Weiss  wrote:
>
> Matthew,
>
> 3D Touch is being illuminated going forward, it is different than the
>
> haptic.
>
> The iPhone SR has a different type of screen, it also does not have the
> same
>
> cameras as the iPhone XS and 10 as Max. Thus making it the cheaper of the
>
> three options.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Sep 13, 2018, at 2:39 PM, matthew dyer
>
>  wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
> Gera, you are thinking of haptic touch.  From what I understand it is 3d
>
> touch under a different name.
>
>
> Also, IMO, don’t know or understand how the sr is cheeper than the xs
>
> since the xs is 5.8 inches the xr is 6.1 and xs max is 6.5.  Anyone care
>
> to explane this one?  Just my thoughts.
>
>
> Matthew
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>
> Gerardo Corripio 
>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:26:50 PM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-13 Thread Devin Prater
We'll just have to wait and see. I share your cynicism of Apple, but they get 
some things right, sometimes. 

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the Blind
JAWS certified 

> On Sep 13, 2018, at 5:12 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Devin;
> 
> Apple is only going to incorporate into there iPhones what sells.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
> 
>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 4:51 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>> If it's only for video, I'd be pretty mad at Apple, for a while. 
>> 
>> Devin Prater
>> Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the Blind
>> JAWS certified 
>> 
>>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 3:41 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Interesting, because they do seem to mention microphone twice. That would 
>>> imply two microphones I guess if I’m reading this right. I saw exactly 
>>> nothing about 3D Touch however. There is a lot of stuff on that page, I 
>>> might’ve missed it. But I sure didn’t see it. Also, as Jonathan noted 
>>> yesterday, stereo recording was referenced under the video section, which 
>>> kind of makes me wonder if it will be available as a standalone feature. I 
>>> certainly hope so. I personally probably wouldn’t use it, but I’m sure 
>>> plenty of people would.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 1:20 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Here's all the source you could ever need, and it's right from Apple, so 
>>>> no fake news here. :) 
>>>> https://www.apple.com/iphone-xr/specs/
>>>> 
>>>> Devin Prater
>>>> Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the Blind
>>>> JAWS certified 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I use 3D Touch for  afew things, but I think that a double tap and
>>>>> hold with 1 finger can basically do the same as 3D touch. I will be
>>>>> upgrading--but to an 8 Plus. I have the 7 Plus. I'm going to hang onto
>>>>> touch ID as long as I can. I'm sure that Face ID will continue to
>>>>> improve. I have no doubt that I can use the new gestures, but there's
>>>>> nothing like unlocking with a finger, and the speed and reliability
>>>>> that gives. It's not just blind people who say this; I've heard some
>>>>> folks on TWIT say the same thing, just yesterday in fact when
>>>>> listening to the presentation, one of the commentators said he prefers
>>>>> touch ID over facial recognition.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wayne
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9/13/18, Jim Weiss  wrote:
>>>>>> Matthew,
>>>>>> 3D Touch is being illuminated going forward, it is different than the
>>>>>> haptic.
>>>>>> The iPhone SR has a different type of screen, it also does not have the 
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> cameras as the iPhone XS and 10 as Max. Thus making it the cheaper of the
>>>>>> three options.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 2:39 PM, matthew dyer
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gera, you are thinking of haptic touch.  From what I understand it is 3d
>>>>>>> touch under a different name.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Also, IMO, don’t know or understand how the sr is cheeper than the xs
>>>>>>> since the xs is 5.8 inches the xr is 6.1 and xs max is 6.5.  Anyone care
>>>>>>> to explane this one?  Just my thoughts.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Matthew
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>>>>>>> Gerardo Corripio 
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:26:50 PM
>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> No 3D Touch, but what they called Haptic something. I guess more

Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-13 Thread Anthony Vece
Devin;

Apple is only going to incorporate into there iPhones what sells.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

> On Sep 13, 2018, at 4:51 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> If it's only for video, I'd be pretty mad at Apple, for a while. 
> 
> Devin Prater
> Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the Blind
> JAWS certified 
> 
>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 3:41 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting, because they do seem to mention microphone twice. That would 
>> imply two microphones I guess if I’m reading this right. I saw exactly 
>> nothing about 3D Touch however. There is a lot of stuff on that page, I 
>> might’ve missed it. But I sure didn’t see it. Also, as Jonathan noted 
>> yesterday, stereo recording was referenced under the video section, which 
>> kind of makes me wonder if it will be available as a standalone feature. I 
>> certainly hope so. I personally probably wouldn’t use it, but I’m sure 
>> plenty of people would.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 1:20 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here's all the source you could ever need, and it's right from Apple, so no 
>>> fake news here. :) 
>>> https://www.apple.com/iphone-xr/specs/
>>> 
>>> Devin Prater
>>> Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the Blind
>>> JAWS certified 
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I use 3D Touch for  afew things, but I think that a double tap and
>>>> hold with 1 finger can basically do the same as 3D touch. I will be
>>>> upgrading--but to an 8 Plus. I have the 7 Plus. I'm going to hang onto
>>>> touch ID as long as I can. I'm sure that Face ID will continue to
>>>> improve. I have no doubt that I can use the new gestures, but there's
>>>> nothing like unlocking with a finger, and the speed and reliability
>>>> that gives. It's not just blind people who say this; I've heard some
>>>> folks on TWIT say the same thing, just yesterday in fact when
>>>> listening to the presentation, one of the commentators said he prefers
>>>> touch ID over facial recognition.
>>>> 
>>>> Wayne
>>>> 
>>>>> On 9/13/18, Jim Weiss  wrote:
>>>>> Matthew,
>>>>> 3D Touch is being illuminated going forward, it is different than the
>>>>> haptic.
>>>>> The iPhone SR has a different type of screen, it also does not have the 
>>>>> same
>>>>> cameras as the iPhone XS and 10 as Max. Thus making it the cheaper of the
>>>>> three options.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 2:39 PM, matthew dyer
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gera, you are thinking of haptic touch.  From what I understand it is 3d
>>>>>> touch under a different name.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also, IMO, don’t know or understand how the sr is cheeper than the xs
>>>>>> since the xs is 5.8 inches the xr is 6.1 and xs max is 6.5.  Anyone care
>>>>>> to explane this one?  Just my thoughts.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Matthew
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>>>>>> Gerardo Corripio 
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:26:50 PM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No 3D Touch, but what they called Haptic something. I guess more than a
>>>>>> step backwards, is because the type of display being used on the XR, 
>>>>>> isn’t
>>>>>> compatible with 3D touch? it’d be interesting to see if the Haptic 
>>>>>> feature
>>>>>> works like 3D touch if you guys get one of these soon.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gera
>>>>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:21 p. m., Dave 
>>>>>> escribió:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I think 

Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-13 Thread Devin Prater
If it's only for video, I'd be pretty mad at Apple, for a while. 

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the Blind
JAWS certified 

> On Sep 13, 2018, at 3:41 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Interesting, because they do seem to mention microphone twice. That would 
> imply two microphones I guess if I’m reading this right. I saw exactly 
> nothing about 3D Touch however. There is a lot of stuff on that page, I 
> might’ve missed it. But I sure didn’t see it. Also, as Jonathan noted 
> yesterday, stereo recording was referenced under the video section, which 
> kind of makes me wonder if it will be available as a standalone feature. I 
> certainly hope so. I personally probably wouldn’t use it, but I’m sure plenty 
> of people would.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 1:20 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>> Here's all the source you could ever need, and it's right from Apple, so no 
>> fake news here. :) 
>> https://www.apple.com/iphone-xr/specs/
>> 
>> Devin Prater
>> Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the Blind
>> JAWS certified 
>> 
>>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I use 3D Touch for  afew things, but I think that a double tap and
>>> hold with 1 finger can basically do the same as 3D touch. I will be
>>> upgrading--but to an 8 Plus. I have the 7 Plus. I'm going to hang onto
>>> touch ID as long as I can. I'm sure that Face ID will continue to
>>> improve. I have no doubt that I can use the new gestures, but there's
>>> nothing like unlocking with a finger, and the speed and reliability
>>> that gives. It's not just blind people who say this; I've heard some
>>> folks on TWIT say the same thing, just yesterday in fact when
>>> listening to the presentation, one of the commentators said he prefers
>>> touch ID over facial recognition.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
>>>> On 9/13/18, Jim Weiss  wrote:
>>>> Matthew,
>>>> 3D Touch is being illuminated going forward, it is different than the
>>>> haptic.
>>>> The iPhone SR has a different type of screen, it also does not have the 
>>>> same
>>>> cameras as the iPhone XS and 10 as Max. Thus making it the cheaper of the
>>>> three options.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 2:39 PM, matthew dyer
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gera, you are thinking of haptic touch.  From what I understand it is 3d
>>>>> touch under a different name.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also, IMO, don’t know or understand how the sr is cheeper than the xs
>>>>> since the xs is 5.8 inches the xr is 6.1 and xs max is 6.5.  Anyone care
>>>>> to explane this one?  Just my thoughts.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matthew
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>>>>> Gerardo Corripio 
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:26:50 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>>>>> 
>>>>> No 3D Touch, but what they called Haptic something. I guess more than a
>>>>> step backwards, is because the type of display being used on the XR, isn’t
>>>>> compatible with 3D touch? it’d be interesting to see if the Haptic feature
>>>>> works like 3D touch if you guys get one of these soon.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gera
>>>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>>>>> 
>>>>> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:21 p. m., Dave 
>>>>> escribió:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think it said, there was no 3D touch, on the XR.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If this is true, then it is a backward step.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dave.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message- From: Gerardo Corripio
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:15 AM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous

Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-13 Thread Mary Otten
Interesting, because they do seem to mention microphone twice. That would imply 
two microphones I guess if I’m reading this right. I saw exactly nothing about 
3D Touch however. There is a lot of stuff on that page, I might’ve missed it. 
But I sure didn’t see it. Also, as Jonathan noted yesterday, stereo recording 
was referenced under the video section, which kind of makes me wonder if it 
will be available as a standalone feature. I certainly hope so. I personally 
probably wouldn’t use it, but I’m sure plenty of people would.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 13, 2018, at 1:20 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> Here's all the source you could ever need, and it's right from Apple, so no 
> fake news here. :) 
> https://www.apple.com/iphone-xr/specs/
> 
> Devin Prater
> Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the Blind
> JAWS certified 
> 
>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>> 
>> I use 3D Touch for  afew things, but I think that a double tap and
>> hold with 1 finger can basically do the same as 3D touch. I will be
>> upgrading--but to an 8 Plus. I have the 7 Plus. I'm going to hang onto
>> touch ID as long as I can. I'm sure that Face ID will continue to
>> improve. I have no doubt that I can use the new gestures, but there's
>> nothing like unlocking with a finger, and the speed and reliability
>> that gives. It's not just blind people who say this; I've heard some
>> folks on TWIT say the same thing, just yesterday in fact when
>> listening to the presentation, one of the commentators said he prefers
>> touch ID over facial recognition.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>>> On 9/13/18, Jim Weiss  wrote:
>>> Matthew,
>>> 3D Touch is being illuminated going forward, it is different than the
>>> haptic.
>>> The iPhone SR has a different type of screen, it also does not have the same
>>> cameras as the iPhone XS and 10 as Max. Thus making it the cheaper of the
>>> three options.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 2:39 PM, matthew dyer
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Gera, you are thinking of haptic touch.  From what I understand it is 3d
>>>> touch under a different name.
>>>> 
>>>> Also, IMO, don’t know or understand how the sr is cheeper than the xs
>>>> since the xs is 5.8 inches the xr is 6.1 and xs max is 6.5.  Anyone care
>>>> to explane this one?  Just my thoughts.
>>>> 
>>>> Matthew
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>>>> Gerardo Corripio 
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:26:50 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>>>> 
>>>> No 3D Touch, but what they called Haptic something. I guess more than a
>>>> step backwards, is because the type of display being used on the XR, isn’t
>>>> compatible with 3D touch? it’d be interesting to see if the Haptic feature
>>>> works like 3D touch if you guys get one of these soon.
>>>> 
>>>> Gera
>>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>>>> 
>>>> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:21 p. m., Dave 
>>>> escribió:
>>>> 
>>>>> I think it said, there was no 3D touch, on the XR.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If this is true, then it is a backward step.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dave.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message- From: Gerardo Corripio
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:15 AM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money would
>>>>> allow, when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gera
>>>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>>>>> 
>>>>> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave 
>>>>> escribió:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Likewise.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dave.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
>>>>>> To: v

Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-13 Thread Devin Prater
Here's all the source you could ever need, and it's right from Apple, so no 
fake news here. :) 
https://www.apple.com/iphone-xr/specs/

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the Blind
JAWS certified 

> On Sep 13, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> I use 3D Touch for  afew things, but I think that a double tap and
> hold with 1 finger can basically do the same as 3D touch. I will be
> upgrading--but to an 8 Plus. I have the 7 Plus. I'm going to hang onto
> touch ID as long as I can. I'm sure that Face ID will continue to
> improve. I have no doubt that I can use the new gestures, but there's
> nothing like unlocking with a finger, and the speed and reliability
> that gives. It's not just blind people who say this; I've heard some
> folks on TWIT say the same thing, just yesterday in fact when
> listening to the presentation, one of the commentators said he prefers
> touch ID over facial recognition.
> 
> Wayne
> 
>> On 9/13/18, Jim Weiss  wrote:
>> Matthew,
>> 3D Touch is being illuminated going forward, it is different than the
>> haptic.
>> The iPhone SR has a different type of screen, it also does not have the same
>> cameras as the iPhone XS and 10 as Max. Thus making it the cheaper of the
>> three options.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 2:39 PM, matthew dyer
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Gera, you are thinking of haptic touch.  From what I understand it is 3d
>>> touch under a different name.
>>> 
>>> Also, IMO, don’t know or understand how the sr is cheeper than the xs
>>> since the xs is 5.8 inches the xr is 6.1 and xs max is 6.5.  Anyone care
>>> to explane this one?  Just my thoughts.
>>> 
>>> Matthew
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>>> Gerardo Corripio 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:26:50 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>>> 
>>> No 3D Touch, but what they called Haptic something. I guess more than a
>>> step backwards, is because the type of display being used on the XR, isn’t
>>> compatible with 3D touch? it’d be interesting to see if the Haptic feature
>>> works like 3D touch if you guys get one of these soon.
>>> 
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>>> 
>>> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:21 p. m., Dave 
>>> escribió:
>>> 
>>>> I think it said, there was no 3D touch, on the XR.
>>>> 
>>>> If this is true, then it is a backward step.
>>>> 
>>>> Dave.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message- From: Gerardo Corripio
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:15 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>>>> 
>>>> I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money would
>>>> allow, when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.
>>>> 
>>>> Gera
>>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>>>> 
>>>> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave 
>>>> escribió:
>>>> 
>>>>> Likewise.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dave.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones
>>>>> 
>>>>> I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sarai D Bucciarelli
>>>>> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.linkedin.com%2Fin%2FSaraiDBucciarelli&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb9566e563302413cf5fd08d6190f9c4b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636723952161148487&sdata=CChaleJCOBlUgsgoWgIUOHyrujg2aXkZqW4fPMR7Biw%3D&reserved=0
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>>> lenron brown
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.
>>&g

Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-13 Thread Wayne Merritt
I use 3D Touch for  afew things, but I think that a double tap and
hold with 1 finger can basically do the same as 3D touch. I will be
upgrading--but to an 8 Plus. I have the 7 Plus. I'm going to hang onto
touch ID as long as I can. I'm sure that Face ID will continue to
improve. I have no doubt that I can use the new gestures, but there's
nothing like unlocking with a finger, and the speed and reliability
that gives. It's not just blind people who say this; I've heard some
folks on TWIT say the same thing, just yesterday in fact when
listening to the presentation, one of the commentators said he prefers
touch ID over facial recognition.

Wayne

On 9/13/18, Jim Weiss  wrote:
> Matthew,
> 3D Touch is being illuminated going forward, it is different than the
> haptic.
> The iPhone SR has a different type of screen, it also does not have the same
> cameras as the iPhone XS and 10 as Max. Thus making it the cheaper of the
> three options.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 2:39 PM, matthew dyer
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Gera, you are thinking of haptic touch.  From what I understand it is 3d
>> touch under a different name.
>>
>> Also, IMO, don’t know or understand how the sr is cheeper than the xs
>> since the xs is 5.8 inches the xr is 6.1 and xs max is 6.5.  Anyone care
>> to explane this one?  Just my thoughts.
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>> Gerardo Corripio 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:26:50 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>>
>> No 3D Touch, but what they called Haptic something. I guess more than a
>> step backwards, is because the type of display being used on the XR, isn’t
>> compatible with 3D touch? it’d be interesting to see if the Haptic feature
>> works like 3D touch if you guys get one of these soon.
>>
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>>
>> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:21 p. m., Dave 
>> escribió:
>>
>> > I think it said, there was no 3D touch, on the XR.
>> >
>> > If this is true, then it is a backward step.
>> >
>> > Dave.
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message- From: Gerardo Corripio
>> > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:15 AM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>> >
>> > I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money would
>> > allow, when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.
>> >
>> > Gera
>> > Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>> >
>> > El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave 
>> > escribió:
>> >
>> >> Likewise.
>> >>
>> >> Dave.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
>> >> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
>> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >> Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones
>> >>
>> >> I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.
>> >>
>> >> Sarai D Bucciarelli
>> >> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.linkedin.com%2Fin%2FSaraiDBucciarelli&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb9566e563302413cf5fd08d6190f9c4b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636723952161148487&sdata=CChaleJCOBlUgsgoWgIUOHyrujg2aXkZqW4fPMR7Biw%3D&reserved=0
>> >>
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> >> lenron brown
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
>> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>> >>
>> >> Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.
>> >>
>> >>> On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> >>> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new
>> >>> iphones
>> >>> that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the
>> >>> Iphone
>> >>> XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like
>> >>> it's
>> >>> the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the
>> >>> cheaper
>> >>> version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone
>> >>> models and
>> >>> the Iphone SE has been discontinued. T

Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-13 Thread Jim Weiss
Matthew,
3D Touch is being illuminated going forward, it is different than the haptic.
The iPhone SR has a different type of screen, it also does not have the same 
cameras as the iPhone XS and 10 as Max. Thus making it the cheaper of the three 
options.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 13, 2018, at 2:39 PM, matthew dyer  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> Gera, you are thinking of haptic touch.  From what I understand it is 3d 
> touch under a different name.
>  
> Also, IMO, don’t know or understand how the sr is cheeper than the xs since 
> the xs is 5.8 inches the xr is 6.1 and xs max is 6.5.  Anyone care to explane 
> this one?  Just my thoughts.
>  
> Matthew
>  
>  
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
> Gerardo Corripio 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:26:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>  
> No 3D Touch, but what they called Haptic something. I guess more than a step 
> backwards, is because the type of display being used on the XR, isn’t 
> compatible with 3D touch? it’d be interesting to see if the Haptic feature 
> works like 3D touch if you guys get one of these soon.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
> 
> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:21 p. m., Dave  escribió:
> 
> > I think it said, there was no 3D touch, on the XR.
> > 
> > If this is true, then it is a backward step.
> > 
> > Dave.
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message- From: Gerardo Corripio
> > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:15 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
> > 
> > I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money would 
> > allow, when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.
> > 
> > Gera
> > Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
> > 
> > El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave  
> > escribió:
> > 
> >> Likewise.
> >> 
> >> Dave.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones
> >> 
> >> I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.
> >> 
> >> Sarai D Bucciarelli 
> >> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.linkedin.com%2Fin%2FSaraiDBucciarelli&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb9566e563302413cf5fd08d6190f9c4b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636723952161148487&sdata=CChaleJCOBlUgsgoWgIUOHyrujg2aXkZqW4fPMR7Biw%3D&reserved=0
> >> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> >> lenron brown
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
> >> 
> >> Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.
> >> 
> >>> On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> >>> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new 
> >>> iphones
> >>> that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone
> >>> XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like 
> >>> it's
> >>> the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper
> >>> version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models 
> >>> and
> >>> the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells
> >>> any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I 
> >>> got
> >>> an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting
> >>> any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the
> >>> home button yet either.
> >>> 
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RE: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-13 Thread matthew dyer
Hi,



Gera, you are thinking of haptic touch.  From what I understand it is 3d touch 
under a different name.



Also, IMO, don’t know or understand how the sr is cheeper than the xs since the 
xs is 5.8 inches the xr is 6.1 and xs max is 6.5.  Anyone care to explane this 
one?  Just my thoughts.



Matthew







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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Gerardo 
Corripio 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:26:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

No 3D Touch, but what they called Haptic something. I guess more than a step 
backwards, is because the type of display being used on the XR, isn’t 
compatible with 3D touch? it’d be interesting to see if the Haptic feature 
works like 3D touch if you guys get one of these soon.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:21 p. m., Dave  escribió:

> I think it said, there was no 3D touch, on the XR.
>
> If this is true, then it is a backward step.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>
> I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money would 
> allow, when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.
>
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>
> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave  escribió:
>
>> Likewise.
>>
>> Dave.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones
>>
>> I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.
>>
>> Sarai D Bucciarelli 
>> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.linkedin.com%2Fin%2FSaraiDBucciarelli&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb9566e563302413cf5fd08d6190f9c4b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636723952161148487&sdata=CChaleJCOBlUgsgoWgIUOHyrujg2aXkZqW4fPMR7Biw%3D&reserved=0
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> lenron brown
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>>
>> Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.
>>
>>> On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new iphones
>>> that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone
>>> XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like it's
>>> the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper
>>> version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and
>>> the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells
>>> any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got
>>> an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting
>>> any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the
>>> home button yet either.
>>>
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RE: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-13 Thread Carolyn Arnold
I am exactly like you, Sandra, about the screen, which is why I just love my 
little SE. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sandra Streeter
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

I also don't like the idea of a big, honkin' screen. I am small-handed, and 
appreciate it when I don't have to reach far for items; I know you can do that 
"reachability" thing, but it's also about just not wanting a wider distance 
from edge to edge. Plus, I don't want to have to find more real estate within 
whatever carry-bag I happen to have, just to accommodate a larger screen. If I 
were low-vision and not total, that would probably be different.



Sandra

"Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until 
it is faced."
(James Baldwin)
-Original Message-
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

I see a couple of things about not having a home button. The first one is the 
touch ID is simply more convenient for me as a blind person then Face ID. I 
don’t have to be looking at the phone. I can have it on my desk even under my 
desk on my keyboard shelf, and activate it with touch ID. I could have it in my 
pocket and activate it with touch ID. Also, if you happen to be one of those 
blind people who can’t use the attention feature of the Face ID, Face ID is 
massively not secure. If somebody takes your iPhone, all they have to do is put 
it in front of your face, and it opens, and they have access to everything. And 
that can be a problem in certain settings. If you’re lucky enough to be able to 
use the attention setting, which all ighted people do, that’s not a big deal. 
But in certain settings, it’s everything from a nuisance to a serious risk. And 
finally, there is the matter of the gestures. Yes, I’m sure they are doable. 
Blind people are doing them. But it’s just so unnecessary. It’s just a shame 
that they couldn’t keep a phone around with the home button and touch ID. But 
everybody has to have giant displays so they can watch movies on their phones I 
guess. It certainly is the wave of the future for Apple. So if you’re going to 
stick with Apple products, guess you have to get on the bandwagon. I certainly 
would not buy either of the S models. If I get an ex this year, it’s going to 
be the R. I just don’t see enough bang for the buck to splurge on those other 
things. If I traveled a lot, the dual sim feature is interesting. And the 
stereo recording would be good for some people. But it’s not worth at least 
$250 more over the cost of the entry-level r model.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 5:15 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>
> I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money 
> would allow, when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.
>
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>
> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave 
> escribió:
>
>> Likewise.
>>
>> Dave.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones
>>
>> I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.
>>
>> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of lenron brown
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>>
>> Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.
>>
>>> On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new 
>>> iphones that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form 
>>> factor, the Iphone XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the 
>>> Iphone XS max sounds like it's the plus version with a larger 
>>> screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper version. The iphone 7 and 8 
>>> will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and the Iphone SE has 
>>> been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells any phones 
>>> with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got an 
>>> iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in 
>>> getting any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready 
>>> to give up the home button yet either.
>>>
>>> --
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>>> iPh

RE: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-13 Thread Cristobal Muñoz
Hi Siegard,
Yeah, I'll probably end up taking the plunge and opt for the newer phone 
technology if I upgrade. 
Although, I may just see how iOS 12 performs on my SE and maybe it'll convince 
me to hang onto it. Either way, I've got at least a month to figure it out. I'm 
not on any sort of contract, so I'm pretty flexible on what I want to do. 
I'm curious to see what if anything Apple may put out on a future event for the 
iPads/Mac. Maybe if there are a new generation of airpods, I'll give those some 
serious consideration and cash in my BestBuy points that way to get them for 
free.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones

Hi Cristobal,

I am not as attached to Touch Id as many on this list and I guess I'm a bit 
more pragmatic in that I just take it for granted that sooner or later I'll 
have to give it up so if I needed a new phone now (or wanted one) I wouldn't 
hesitate to buy one. The 3.5mm jack for me is also not a big deal especially 
with the new phones all supporting wireless charging, as long as I can use my 
headset while the phone is charging I don't care if it's plugged into a 3.5mm 
port or a Lightning port.
I think $549 for an iPhone XR with 64Gb of storage is actually a pretty good 
deal, I haven't heard yet what capacity will be offered in the iPhone 7 and 8, 
but I assume you would be able to snatch an iPhone 7 for well below that, maybe 
even as low as $349 or $399?
Were I thinking of upgrading from my 6S Plus this year I would want the 10S, 
probably not the 10S Max, but I would want the better camera and whatever else 
the XS has over the XR.
For me the time of upgrading every 2 years are done, these phones are mature 
devices where there just is not as much reason to upgrade, after all, I am not 
buying a new laptop every year or two or even 3 or 4. There is no reason at all 
why an iPhone nowadays can't last for 4 years or even 5, do a battery 
replacement after 2 or two and a half years and you are good to go.
Of course there is also the fact that most likely the iPhones in 2019 will 
support 5G wireless and while this will only start to roll out then, if I do 
plan to keep a phone for 4 years I think waiting for another year and then get 
a new phone makes more sense to me. In the meantime iOS 12 brings speed and 
efficiency to my old 6S Plus and it does everything I want it do do at this 
point.
Once again, if you are on a plan where you pay a fair bit for the privilege to 
upgrade every year then go for it, but if like me you own your phone off 
contract and you are locked into a plan which especially for us here in Canada 
is a really good deal and where I would have to pay $40 or $50 more a month 
with one of the big carriers who then might give me a phone for less it just 
makes no financial sense.
My wife and I can both buy a new Apple Watch 4 for the price of one iPhone XS 
and I think we'll enjoy them much more and if I factor in what we probably 
still get for our second generation watches, I have a stainless steel version 
and she the sport version, it will probably almost pay for one new one.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

I won't be forced to upgrade, when a company doesn't give me something I need 
anymore it will be time to say good by. I have been happy with owning an IPhone 
for the most part but I can do with out if I need. It was really bad enough I 
was willing to give up the headphone jack and the adapter made that not so bad. 
Even though it can be annoying at times.

On 9/12/18, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> While I wasn't really expecting it, I was mildly bummed that Apple 
> didn't introduce a more economical model or at the very least keep the 
> headphone jack for one design if for nothing else, the emerging 
> markets. I know bluetooth headphones are more or less ubiquitous in 
> developed countries, but these phones are so expensive on their own, 
> now someone in all those still growing markets will have to incur the 
> extra cost of bluetooth headphones and or an adaptor. OH well, not my 
> problem I guess, but still, I would have totally been game for some sort of 
> upgraded SE.
> I’m such a fanboy of the touch ID/home button and find it so 
> incredibly convenient to be able to interact with my phone without 
> ever having to pull it out of my pocket that I don't know... I'm semi 
> torn between snagging a cheaper 8 plus or just bite the bullet on the 
> face ID technology and grab the XR.
> The XS models don’t' interest me in the least.
> Anyway,

RE: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-13 Thread Carolyn Arnold
I'd get the R, if I had to. It seems to me that there is a large enough demand 
for Home Button to offer a choice of models, at least of some models. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

I see a couple of things about not having a home button. The first one is the 
touch ID is simply more convenient for me as a blind person then Face ID. I 
don’t have to be looking at the phone. I can have it on my desk even under my 
desk on my keyboard shelf, and activate it with touch ID. I could have it in my 
pocket and activate it with touch ID. Also, if you happen to be one of those 
blind people who can’t use the attention feature of the Face ID, Face ID is 
massively not secure. If somebody takes your iPhone, all they have to do is put 
it in front of your face, and it opens, and they have access to everything. And 
that can be a problem in certain settings. If you’re lucky enough to be able to 
use the attention setting, which all ighted people do, that’s not a big deal. 
But in certain settings, it’s everything from a nuisance to a serious risk. And 
finally, there is the matter of the gestures. Yes, I’m sure they are doable. 
Blind people are doing them. But it’s just so unnecessary. It’s just a shame 
that they couldn’t keep a phone around with the home button and touch ID. But 
everybody has to have giant displays so they can watch movies on their phones I 
guess. It certainly is the wave of the future for Apple. So if you’re going to 
stick with Apple products, guess you have to get on the bandwagon. I certainly 
would not buy either of the S models. If I get an ex this year, it’s going to 
be the R. I just don’t see enough bang for the buck to splurge on those other 
things. If I traveled a lot, the dual sim feature is interesting. And the 
stereo recording would be good for some people. But it’s not worth at least 
$250 more over the cost of the entry-level r model.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 5:15 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money would 
> allow, when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
> 
> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave  escribió:
> 
>> Likewise.
>> 
>> Dave.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones
>> 
>> I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.
>> 
>> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of lenron brown
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>> 
>> Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.
>> 
>>> On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new 
>>> iphones that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form 
>>> factor, the Iphone XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the 
>>> Iphone XS max sounds like it's the plus version with a larger 
>>> screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper version. The iphone 7 and 8 
>>> will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and the Iphone SE has 
>>> been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells any phones 
>>> with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got an 
>>> iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in 
>>> getting any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give 
>>> up the home button yet either.
>>> 
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RE: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-13 Thread Carolyn Arnold
I think that haptic is an under the screen button. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

No 3D Touch, but what they called Haptic something. I guess more than a step 
backwards, is because the type of display being used on the XR, isn’t 
compatible with 3D touch? it’d be interesting to see if the Haptic feature 
works like 3D touch if you guys get one of these soon.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:21 p. m., Dave  escribió:

> I think it said, there was no 3D touch, on the XR.
> 
> If this is true, then it is a backward step.
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
> 
> I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money would 
> allow, when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
> 
> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave  escribió:
> 
>> Likewise.
>> 
>> Dave.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones
>> 
>> I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.
>> 
>> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of lenron brown
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>> 
>> Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.
>> 
>>> On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new 
>>> iphones that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form 
>>> factor, the Iphone XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the 
>>> Iphone XS max sounds like it's the plus version with a larger 
>>> screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper version. The iphone 7 and 8 
>>> will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and the Iphone SE has 
>>> been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells any phones 
>>> with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got an 
>>> iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in 
>>> getting any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give 
>>> up the home button yet either.
>>> 
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RE: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-13 Thread Carolyn Arnold
Me too - I'm a SE girl! 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Capelle
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

same here, i am happy with my se.

-Original Message-
From: Dave
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

Likewise.

Dave.


-Original Message-
From: Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones

I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.

On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new 
> iphones that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form 
> factor, the Iphone XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone 
> XS max sounds like it's the plus version with a larger screen, and the 
> Iphone XR is the cheaper version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as 
> Apple's budget iphone models and the Iphone SE has been discontinued. 
> This means that Apple no longer sells any phones with a small form 
> factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got an iphone 8 and iphone 
> SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting any of these new 
> ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the home button 
> yet either.
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone 
> list.
>
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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-13 Thread Davy Cuppens

Devin

Thanx for that clarification, later next year I will decide for the xr or xs 
depending on the sound quality of both speakers which I will test in a 
switch store.

Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Devin Prater

Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 4:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

Let's clear the air a little.
• the iPho Xr will have stereo recording support.
• The iPhone Xr will use ... whatever they're calling the 3D touch 
replacement just like 3D touch, not just for the camera, lol.
• The iPhone Xr will come in at a good $749, being the price of an iPhone 
8+, with 64 GB of storage.


Devin Prater
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JAWS certified

On Sep 13, 2018, at 9:15 AM,   
wrote:


Hi,

I use it all the time.

I'm so excited for Monday.



-Original Message-
From: 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

I feel like nobody uses 3D Touch anyway.

On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:27 PM, Mike Capelle  
wrote:


that is right, no more 3d touch.

-Original Message- From: Dave
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

I think it said, there was no 3D touch, on the XR.

If this is true, then it is a backward step.

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money
would allow, when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave 
escribió:


Likewise.

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones

I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of lenron brown
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.


On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new
iphones that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form
factor, the Iphone XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the
Iphone XS max sounds like it's the plus version with a larger
screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper version. The iphone 7 and 8
will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and the Iphone SE has
been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells any phones
with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got an
iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in
getting any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to 
give up the home button yet either.


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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-13 Thread Dave

Hi Mary i agree with you.

and the sighted person, is jonathan's daughter.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Mary Otten

Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 3:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

What is your source for the claim that this new haptic feedback thing is 
going to be usable just as 3D Touch is now? The alternative has been all 
over the mainstream tech press, so unless you have a really good source, I 
am inclined not to believe it. Also regarding stereo recording, the thought 
at least from Jonathan Mosen was that it might have stereo recording support 
with an external mic, but that it doesn’t have internal support, and the 
sighted person who was watching the thing with him supposedly saw 
confirmation of the lack of two microphones on one of the slides. So again, 
what is your source?



Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 13, 2018, at 7:32 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:

Let's clear the air a little.
• the iPho Xr will have stereo recording support.
• The iPhone Xr will use ... whatever they're calling the 3D touch 
replacement just like 3D touch, not just for the camera, lol.
• The iPhone Xr will come in at a good $749, being the price of an iPhone 
8+, with 64 GB of storage.


Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the Blind
JAWS certified

On Sep 13, 2018, at 9:15 AM,   
wrote:


Hi,

I use it all the time.

I'm so excited for Monday.



-Original Message-
From: 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

I feel like nobody uses 3D Touch anyway.

On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:27 PM, Mike Capelle  
wrote:


that is right, no more 3d touch.

-Original Message- From: Dave
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

I think it said, there was no 3D touch, on the XR.

If this is true, then it is a backward step.

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money
would allow, when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave 
escribió:


Likewise.

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones

I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of lenron brown
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.


On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new
iphones that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form
factor, the Iphone XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the
Iphone XS max sounds like it's the plus version with a larger
screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper version. The iphone 7 and 8
will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and the Iphone SE has
been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells any phones
with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got an
iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in
getting any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to 
give up the home button yet either.


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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-13 Thread Mary Otten
 What is your source for the claim that this new haptic feedback thing is going 
to be usable just as 3D Touch is now? The alternative has been all over the 
mainstream tech press, so unless you have a really good source, I am inclined 
not to believe it. Also regarding stereo recording, the thought at least from 
Jonathan Mosen was that it might have stereo recording support with an external 
mic, but that it doesn’t have internal support, and the sighted person who was 
watching the thing with him supposedly saw confirmation of the lack of two 
microphones on one of the slides. So again, what is your source?


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 13, 2018, at 7:32 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> Let's clear the air a little.
> • the iPho Xr will have stereo recording support.
> • The iPhone Xr will use ... whatever they're calling the 3D touch 
> replacement just like 3D touch, not just for the camera, lol.
> • The iPhone Xr will come in at a good $749, being the price of an iPhone 8+, 
> with 64 GB of storage.
> 
> Devin Prater
> Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the Blind
> JAWS certified 
> 
>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 9:15 AM,   wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I use it all the time.
>> 
>> I'm so excited for Monday.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone  
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:36 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>> 
>> I feel like nobody uses 3D Touch anyway. 
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:27 PM, Mike Capelle  wrote:
>>> 
>>> that is right, no more 3d touch.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Dave
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:21 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>>> 
>>> I think it said, there was no 3D touch, on the XR.
>>> 
>>> If this is true, then it is a backward step.
>>> 
>>> Dave.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Gerardo Corripio
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:15 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>>> 
>>> I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money 
>>> would allow, when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.
>>> 
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>>> 
>>> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave 
>>> escribió:
>>> 
>>>> Likewise.
>>>> 
>>>> Dave.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones
>>>> 
>>>> I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.
>>>> 
>>>> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of lenron brown
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>>>> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new 
>>>>> iphones that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form 
>>>>> factor, the Iphone XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the 
>>>>> Iphone XS max sounds like it's the plus version with a larger 
>>>>> screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper version. The iphone 7 and 8 
>>>>> will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and the Iphone SE has 
>>>>> been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells any phones 
>>>>> with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got an 
>>>>> iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in 
>>>>> getting any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to 
>>>>> give up the home button yet either.
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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-13 Thread Devin Prater
Let's clear the air a little.
• the iPho Xr will have stereo recording support.
• The iPhone Xr will use ... whatever they're calling the 3D touch replacement 
just like 3D touch, not just for the camera, lol.
• The iPhone Xr will come in at a good $749, being the price of an iPhone 8+, 
with 64 GB of storage.

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the Blind
JAWS certified 

> On Sep 13, 2018, at 9:15 AM,   wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I use it all the time.
> 
> I'm so excited for Monday.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
> 
> I feel like nobody uses 3D Touch anyway. 
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:27 PM, Mike Capelle  wrote:
>> 
>> that is right, no more 3d touch.
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Dave
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>> 
>> I think it said, there was no 3D touch, on the XR.
>> 
>> If this is true, then it is a backward step.
>> 
>> Dave.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Gerardo Corripio
>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:15 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>> 
>> I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money 
>> would allow, when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>> 
>> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave 
>> escribió:
>> 
>>> Likewise.
>>> 
>>> Dave.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones
>>> 
>>> I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.
>>> 
>>> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of lenron brown
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>>> 
>>> Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.
>>> 
>>>> On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>>> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new 
>>>> iphones that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form 
>>>> factor, the Iphone XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the 
>>>> Iphone XS max sounds like it's the plus version with a larger 
>>>> screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper version. The iphone 7 and 8 
>>>> will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and the Iphone SE has 
>>>> been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells any phones 
>>>> with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got an 
>>>> iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in 
>>>> getting any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to 
>>>> give up the home button yet either.
>>>> 
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RE: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-13 Thread jldail13
Hi,

I use it all the time.

I'm so excited for Monday.



-Original Message-
From: 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

I feel like nobody uses 3D Touch anyway. 

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:27 PM, Mike Capelle  wrote:
> 
> that is right, no more 3d touch.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Dave
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
> 
> I think it said, there was no 3D touch, on the XR.
> 
> If this is true, then it is a backward step.
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
> 
> I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money 
> would allow, when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
> 
> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave 
> escribió:
> 
>> Likewise.
>> 
>> Dave.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones
>> 
>> I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.
>> 
>> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of lenron brown
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>> 
>> Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.
>> 
>>> On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new 
>>> iphones that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form 
>>> factor, the Iphone XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the 
>>> Iphone XS max sounds like it's the plus version with a larger 
>>> screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper version. The iphone 7 and 8 
>>> will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and the Iphone SE has 
>>> been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells any phones 
>>> with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got an 
>>> iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in 
>>> getting any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give 
>>> up the home button yet either.
>>> 
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RE: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Cristobal,

I am not as attached to Touch Id as many on this list and I guess I'm a bit 
more pragmatic in that I just take it for granted that sooner or later I'll 
have to give it up so if I needed a new phone now (or wanted one) I wouldn't 
hesitate to buy one. The 3.5mm jack for me is also not a big deal especially 
with the new phones all supporting wireless charging, as long as I can use my 
headset while the phone is charging I don't care if it's plugged into a 3.5mm 
port or a Lightning port.
I think $549 for an iPhone XR with 64Gb of storage is actually a pretty good 
deal, I haven't heard yet what capacity will be offered in the iPhone 7 and 8, 
but I assume you would be able to snatch an iPhone 7 for well below that, maybe 
even as low as $349 or $399?
Were I thinking of upgrading from my 6S Plus this year I would want the 10S, 
probably not the 10S Max, but I would want the better camera and whatever else 
the XS has over the XR.
For me the time of upgrading every 2 years are done, these phones are mature 
devices where there just is not as much reason to upgrade, after all, I am not 
buying a new laptop every year or two or even 3 or 4. There is no reason at all 
why an iPhone nowadays can't last for 4 years or even 5, do a battery 
replacement after 2 or two and a half years and you are good to go.
Of course there is also the fact that most likely the iPhones in 2019 will 
support 5G wireless and while this will only start to roll out then, if I do 
plan to keep a phone for 4 years I think waiting for another year and then get 
a new phone makes more sense to me. In the meantime iOS 12 brings speed and 
efficiency to my old 6S Plus and it does everything I want it do do at this 
point.
Once again, if you are on a plan where you pay a fair bit for the privilege to 
upgrade every year then go for it, but if like me you own your phone off 
contract and you are locked into a plan which especially for us here in Canada 
is a really good deal and where I would have to pay $40 or $50 more a month 
with one of the big carriers who then might give me a phone for less it just 
makes no financial sense.
My wife and I can both buy a new Apple Watch 4 for the price of one iPhone XS 
and I think we'll enjoy them much more and if I factor in what we probably 
still get for our second generation watches, I have a stainless steel version 
and she the sport version, it will probably almost pay for one new one.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

I won't be forced to upgrade, when a company doesn't give me something I need 
anymore it will be time to say good by. I have been happy with owning an IPhone 
for the most part but I can do with out if I need. It was really bad enough I 
was willing to give up the headphone jack and the adapter made that not so bad. 
Even though it can be annoying at times.

On 9/12/18, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> While I wasn't really expecting it, I was mildly bummed that Apple 
> didn't introduce a more economical model or at the very least keep the 
> headphone jack for one design if for nothing else, the emerging 
> markets. I know bluetooth headphones are more or less ubiquitous in 
> developed countries, but these phones are so expensive on their own, 
> now someone in all those still growing markets will have to incur the 
> extra cost of bluetooth headphones and or an adaptor. OH well, not my 
> problem I guess, but still, I would have totally been game for some sort of 
> upgraded SE.
> I’m such a fanboy of the touch ID/home button and find it so 
> incredibly convenient to be able to interact with my phone without 
> ever having to pull it out of my pocket that I don't know... I'm semi 
> torn between snagging a cheaper 8 plus or just bite the bullet on the 
> face ID technology and grab the XR.
> The XS models don’t' interest me in the least.
> Anyway, since the XR doesn't come out for another month, I guess I 
> have enough time to go back and forth on what I want or maybe even 
> convince myself to stick with my SE.
> It's too bad BestBuy doesn’t' sell off contract phones anymore. I 
> could cash in some points and really try to score a deal.
> Talk about first world problems.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones
>
> For a few years we can use iPhones like the 8 or 8 Plus although one 
> should point out that they also don't have a physical/mechanical home 
> button, they have a virtual home button or whatever one wants to 

Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Mike Capelle

we sure will.

-Original Message- 
From: kitty hevener

Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

me too.  Just hope will be able to use it for a few years.  smile!!

-Original Message- 
From: Mike Capelle

Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

not happy at all, love my SE.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike Arrigo

Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple's new iphones

It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new iphones
that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone
XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like it's
the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper
version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and
the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells
any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got
an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting
any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the
home button yet either.

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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread lenron brown
I won't be forced to upgrade, when a company doesn't give me something
I need anymore it will be time to say good by. I have been happy with
owning an IPhone for the most part but I can do with out if I need. It
was really bad enough I was willing to give up the headphone jack and
the adapter made that not so bad. Even though it can be annoying at
times.

On 9/12/18, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> While I wasn't really expecting it, I was mildly bummed that Apple didn't
> introduce a more economical model or at the very least keep the headphone
> jack for one design if for nothing else, the emerging markets. I know
> bluetooth headphones are more or less ubiquitous in developed countries, but
> these phones are so expensive on their own, now someone in all those still
> growing markets will have to incur the extra cost of bluetooth headphones
> and or an adaptor. OH well, not my problem I guess, but still, I would have
> totally been game for some sort of upgraded SE.
> I’m such a fanboy of the touch ID/home button and find it so incredibly
> convenient to be able to interact with my phone without ever having to pull
> it out of my pocket that I don't know... I'm semi torn between snagging a
> cheaper 8 plus or just bite the bullet on the face ID technology and grab
> the XR.
> The XS models don’t' interest me in the least.
> Anyway, since the XR doesn't come out for another month, I guess I have
> enough time to go back and forth on what I want or maybe even convince
> myself to stick with my SE.
> It's too bad BestBuy doesn’t' sell off contract phones anymore. I could cash
> in some points and really try to score a deal.
> Talk about first world problems.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones
>
> For a few years we can use iPhones like the 8 or 8 Plus although one should
> point out that they also don't have a physical/mechanical home button, they
> have a virtual home button or whatever one wants to call it. After that
> time, say in 4 or 5 years, almost all of us will have either upgraded or be
> forced to upgrade to whatever Apple is then offering and I don't see them
> going back to Touch Id.
> As for 3D Touch I think it is also dead in the water and eventually will go
> away and it will be replaced by something better.
> As for smaller form factor iPhones I am not sure if Apple may not bring back
> a 4 to 5 inch phone if they think the demand is there. In a few years LCD
> screens will be a thing of the past and all iPhones will have OLED screens
> and a phone with a 4.7 inch OLED edge to edge display which is the same size
> display of an iPhone 6, 6S, 7 or 8 would probably be physically smaller than
> an iPhone SE.
> This year Apple has released the XR which has the 6.1 LCD display and
> apparently Apple has also managed to make the bezel much smaller so that the
> phone is actually not so huge (I haven't seen/compared the actual dimensions
> to a current Plus size phone), but like I said, OLED technology will take
> over and get cheaper and I somehow wouldn't be surprised is the iPhone XR is
> a little bit like the 5C which was a sort of one-year wonder and then Apple
> discontinued it.
> I guess we'll find out on Tuesday, September 190 which is when the 2019
> Apple Event will take place and don't worry, I'll make sure to let Tim Cook
> know that I predicted this and ask him to make sure it is so *smile*.
> Until then I'll keep my trusty 6S Plus with its new battery and if Apple has
> figured out where they are going with all of this OLED stuff, Face Id and so
> on maybe I'll buy a new phone in 2019, if not I bet my 6S Plus will still
> get iOS 13 and serve me until September of 2020.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary
> Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>
> You know, Mike, the fact that you can use the attention feature is
> wonderful. But one person‘s experience does not mean it will be the same for
> everyone. I know people who can’t use the attention feature. So don’t
> generalize. We are all going to be stuck with this eventually. But making
> light of a very real security risk for those who cannot successfully use
> this feature is not OK.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:25 PM, Michael Maslo 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello list,
>>
>> I am a proud owner of the iphone x and have had it s

RE: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Cristobal Muñoz
While I wasn't really expecting it, I was mildly bummed that Apple didn't 
introduce a more economical model or at the very least keep the headphone jack 
for one design if for nothing else, the emerging markets. I know bluetooth 
headphones are more or less ubiquitous in developed countries, but these phones 
are so expensive on their own, now someone in all those still growing markets 
will have to incur the extra cost of bluetooth headphones and or an adaptor. OH 
well, not my problem I guess, but still, I would have totally been game for 
some sort of upgraded SE. 
I’m such a fanboy of the touch ID/home button and find it so incredibly 
convenient to be able to interact with my phone without ever having to pull it 
out of my pocket that I don't know... I'm semi torn between snagging a cheaper 
8 plus or just bite the bullet on the face ID technology and grab the XR.
The XS models don’t' interest me in the least. 
Anyway, since the XR doesn't come out for another month, I guess I have enough 
time to go back and forth on what I want or maybe even convince myself to stick 
with my SE. 
It's too bad BestBuy doesn’t' sell off contract phones anymore. I could cash in 
some points and really try to score a deal. 
Talk about first world problems.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones

For a few years we can use iPhones like the 8 or 8 Plus although one should 
point out that they also don't have a physical/mechanical home button, they 
have a virtual home button or whatever one wants to call it. After that time, 
say in 4 or 5 years, almost all of us will have either upgraded or be forced to 
upgrade to whatever Apple is then offering and I don't see them going back to 
Touch Id.
As for 3D Touch I think it is also dead in the water and eventually will go 
away and it will be replaced by something better.
As for smaller form factor iPhones I am not sure if Apple may not bring back a 
4 to 5 inch phone if they think the demand is there. In a few years LCD screens 
will be a thing of the past and all iPhones will have OLED screens and a phone 
with a 4.7 inch OLED edge to edge display which is the same size display of an 
iPhone 6, 6S, 7 or 8 would probably be physically smaller than an iPhone SE.
This year Apple has released the XR which has the 6.1 LCD display and 
apparently Apple has also managed to make the bezel much smaller so that the 
phone is actually not so huge (I haven't seen/compared the actual dimensions to 
a current Plus size phone), but like I said, OLED technology will take over and 
get cheaper and I somehow wouldn't be surprised is the iPhone XR is a little 
bit like the 5C which was a sort of one-year wonder and then Apple discontinued 
it.
I guess we'll find out on Tuesday, September 190 which is when the 2019 Apple 
Event will take place and don't worry, I'll make sure to let Tim Cook know that 
I predicted this and ask him to make sure it is so *smile*.
Until then I'll keep my trusty 6S Plus with its new battery and if Apple has 
figured out where they are going with all of this OLED stuff, Face Id and so on 
maybe I'll buy a new phone in 2019, if not I bet my 6S Plus will still get iOS 
13 and serve me until September of 2020.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

You know, Mike, the fact that you can use the attention feature is wonderful. 
But one person‘s experience does not mean it will be the same for everyone. I 
know people who can’t use the attention feature. So don’t generalize. We are 
all going to be stuck with this eventually. But making light of a very real 
security risk for those who cannot successfully use this feature is not OK.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:25 PM, Michael Maslo  wrote:
> 
> Hello list,
> 
> I am a proud owner of the iphone x and have had it since it came out. I 
> personally find the facial id more secure and faster than the touch id ever 
> was. Also who ever said that a blind person could not use attention as part 
> of the facial id never has tried it. I use it all the time without issues.  
> Also for the person who said they like the touch id easier for the could 
> unlock their phone while it was on desk or in their lap, I could do the very 
> same thing as you do. Never have issues with it. The gestures used are super 
> easy and now that I have switched from the touch id,. I would never go back. 
> I have no intent to get a new phone since 30 minutes better battery life does 
> not make it worth operating it. Maybe next year. I saw the largest phone and 
&g

Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Robin
Also People, who have FineMotor difficulties, 
will have Greater Difficulty performing 
TouchScreen gestures No Matter if they are Google's or Apple's

Just Sayin
At 08:41 PM 9/12/2018, you wrote:
That's True pertaining to the NEW TouchScreen 
gestures in place of the Home Button, but Google 
has also Removed its Home Button & Put similar 
TouchScreen gestures in place of its Home Button


Just Sain

At 08:08 PM 9/12/2018, you wrote:
True enough, but there are other distinctions. 
Talkback relies even today on angle jesters 
which are very hard for a lot of blind people. 
Voiceover makes use of two and three finger 
gestures. Talk back does not have any three 
finger gestures ever. So there are still 
differences. And Apple has implemented jesters 
on the iPhone X to make up for the lack of a 
home button. And plenty of blind people are using them successfully.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:02 PM, Robin  wrote:
>
> the Physical Home Button & Then the 3DTouch 
Home Button enhanced VoiceOver's functionality 
on iOS & Distinguished it from Google's TalkBack  TouchScreen gestures

> At 05:14 PM 9/12/2018, you wrote:
>> I’ve never understood what the big 
dealeal is the ph phones not having a Home 
button. Remember more and more devices lack 
Home buttons, thus instead of buttons, you use 
gestures to simulate Home button functions.

>>
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>>
>> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 6:51 p. m., Mike 
Arrigo  escribió:

>>
>> > It looks like Apple is done with the home 
button for good, the 3 new iphones that Apple 
announced are based on the new iphone X form 
factor, the Iphone XS replaces the Iphone X 
from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like 
it's the plus version with a larger screen, 
and the Iphone XR is the cheaper version. The 
iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget 
iphone models and the Iphone SE has been 
discontinued. This means that Apple no longer 
sells any phones with a small form factor now 
or that have a headphone jack. I got an iphone 
8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no 
interest in getting any of these new ones at 
this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the home button yet either.

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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Robin
That's True pertaining to the NEW TouchScreen 
gestures in place of the Home Button, but Google 
has also Removed its Home Button & Put similar 
TouchScreen gestures in place of its Home Button


Just Sain

At 08:08 PM 9/12/2018, you wrote:
True enough, but there are other distinctions. 
Talkback relies even today on angle jesters 
which are very hard for a lot of blind people. 
Voiceover makes use of two and three finger 
gestures. Talk back does not have any three 
finger gestures ever. So there are still 
differences. And Apple has implemented jesters 
on the iPhone X to make up for the lack of a 
home button. And plenty of blind people are using them successfully.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:02 PM, Robin  wrote:
>
> the Physical Home Button & Then the 3DTouch 
Home Button enhanced VoiceOver's functionality 
on iOS & Distinguished it from Google's TalkBack  TouchScreen gestures

> At 05:14 PM 9/12/2018, you wrote:
>> I̢۪ve never understood what the big deal 
is the ph phones not having a Home button. 
Remember more and more devices lack Home 
buttons, thus instead of buttons, you use 
gestures to simulate Home button functions.

>>
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>>
>> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 6:51 p. m., Mike 
Arrigo  escribió:

>>
>> > It looks like Apple is done with the home 
button for good, the 3 new iphones that Apple 
announced are based on the new iphone X form 
factor, the Iphone XS replaces the Iphone X 
from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like 
it's the plus version with a larger screen, and 
the Iphone XR is the cheaper version. The 
iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget 
iphone models and the Iphone SE has been 
discontinued. This means that Apple no longer 
sells any phones with a small form factor now 
or that have a headphone jack. I got an iphone 
8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no 
interest in getting any of these new ones at 
this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the home button yet either.

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RE: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
For a few years we can use iPhones like the 8 or 8 Plus although one should 
point out that they also don't have a physical/mechanical home button, they 
have a virtual home button or whatever one wants to call it. After that time, 
say in 4 or 5 years, almost all of us will have either upgraded or be forced to 
upgrade to whatever Apple is then offering and I don't see them going back to 
Touch Id.
As for 3D Touch I think it is also dead in the water and eventually will go 
away and it will be replaced by something better.
As for smaller form factor iPhones I am not sure if Apple may not bring back a 
4 to 5 inch phone if they think the demand is there. In a few years LCD screens 
will be a thing of the past and all iPhones will have OLED screens and a phone 
with a 4.7 inch OLED edge to edge display which is the same size display of an 
iPhone 6, 6S, 7 or 8 would probably be physically smaller than an iPhone SE.
This year Apple has released the XR which has the 6.1 LCD display and 
apparently Apple has also managed to make the bezel much smaller so that the 
phone is actually not so huge (I haven't seen/compared the actual dimensions to 
a current Plus size phone), but like I said, OLED technology will take over and 
get cheaper and I somehow wouldn't be surprised is the iPhone XR is a little 
bit like the 5C which was a sort of one-year wonder and then Apple discontinued 
it.
I guess we'll find out on Tuesday, September 190 which is when the 2019 Apple 
Event will take place and don't worry, I'll make sure to let Tim Cook know that 
I predicted this and ask him to make sure it is so *smile*.
Until then I'll keep my trusty 6S Plus with its new battery and if Apple has 
figured out where they are going with all of this OLED stuff, Face Id and so on 
maybe I'll buy a new phone in 2019, if not I bet my 6S Plus will still get iOS 
13 and serve me until September of 2020.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

You know, Mike, the fact that you can use the attention feature is wonderful. 
But one person‘s experience does not mean it will be the same for everyone. I 
know people who can’t use the attention feature. So don’t generalize. We are 
all going to be stuck with this eventually. But making light of a very real 
security risk for those who cannot successfully use this feature is not OK.
Mary


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> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:25 PM, Michael Maslo  wrote:
> 
> Hello list,
> 
> I am a proud owner of the iphone x and have had it since it came out. I 
> personally find the facial id more secure and faster than the touch id ever 
> was. Also who ever said that a blind person could not use attention as part 
> of the facial id never has tried it. I use it all the time without issues.  
> Also for the person who said they like the touch id easier for the could 
> unlock their phone while it was on desk or in their lap, I could do the very 
> same thing as you do. Never have issues with it. The gestures used are super 
> easy and now that I have switched from the touch id,. I would never go back. 
> I have no intent to get a new phone since 30 minutes better battery life does 
> not make it worth operating it. Maybe next year. I saw the largest phone and 
> I find it way to bid. I would not want to Barry a iPad as a phone.
> 
> My opinion only. Have a great day.  
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Michael maslo
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 20:02, kitty hevener  wrote:
>> 
>> me too.  Just hope will be able to use it for a few years.  smile!!
>> 
>> -----Original Message- From: Mike Capelle
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>> 
>> not happy at all, love my SE.
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Mike Arrigo
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:51 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple's new iphones
>> 
>> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new 
>> iphones that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form 
>> factor, the Iphone XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the 
>> Iphone XS max sounds like it's the plus version with a larger screen, 
>> and the Iphone XR is the cheaper version. The iphone 7 and 8 will 
>> remain as Apple's budget iphone models and the Iphone SE has been 
>> discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells any phones with a 
>> small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got an iphone 
>> 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting any 
>> of these new one

Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Mary Otten
Really? How absurd! You think the anniversary edition would’ve been more 
valuable a year or two from now with its old processor at Cetera, just because 
newer phones didn’t have whatever special features? Hardly. Ridiculous! As much 
as I am not a fan of the Face ID thing, I really do not understand where you’re 
coming from here. And I strongly doubt Apple is going to go i mbed touch ID in 
their screen if they haven’t done it by now.
Mary

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> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:59 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> In MyPersonal opinion, Apple  miss'd a Big Opportunity  with the Launch of 
> its Anniversary Edition iPhone, the iPhoneX. Because Apple could have 
> distinguished this Anniversary Edition by not incorporating its Unique 
> features InTo other iPhone Models for  another 2 or 3  years, which would 
> have made that Anniversary Edition iPhone more special & valuable.  Thus, 
> justifying the Hike or Huge Price increase from previous iPhones
> 
> I Bet Apple will eventually Jump on the BandWagon of  Built IN TouchID InTo 
> its Display as it finally came around with Wireless Charging
> At 05:07 PM 9/12/2018, you wrote:
>> Mike,
>> 
>> Thanks for this summary of the new models. No surprises here which is why I 
>> got a new iPhone 8 about a month ago. I also wasn't ready to give up the 
>> home button.
>> 
>> I'm kind of curious where Apple is going with its iPhone naming convention. 
>> They chose that Roman numeral X but everyone calls it a 10 anyway and I'm 
>> not thinking they will go to a Roman numeral 11 XI model. It seems that most 
>> car models these days are a combination of letters and numbers so maybe they 
>> thought the X was fashionable.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mike Arrigo
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:51 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple's new iphones
>> 
>> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new iphones 
>> that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone 
>> XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like it's 
>> the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper 
>> version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and 
>> the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells 
>> any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got 
>> an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting 
>> any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the 
>> home button yet either.
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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Chris,
If you have never used 3D Touch, you would be missing nothing. Seeing as how 
you’re not used to it. Smile. I don’t use it very much. It gives you immediate 
access to certain things and certain apps. But it’s a learning curve, and you 
have to get used to using it to get that access. Pretty much the only reason I 
use it these days is in the notification area, where you can use it to get rid 
of all the notifications at one go. I understand that with iOS 12, 
notifications are going to be group differently. So I’m hoping that the absence 
of 3D Touch won’t be A big deal. If I do upgrade this year it’s going to be for 
the XR, because the version has the T-Mobile band in the 600 range which might 
be very helpful to me out here in Oregon.


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> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:01 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> Hello Folks,
> I have never used a phone with 3D touch.  I am wondering, What are the 
> advantages of having a 3D touch iPhone?  What would I be missing, for 
> instance, If I order the iPhone XR which does not have the 3D touch 
> feature?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
> 
> Correct about the no 3D Touch. That haptic thing is just going to let you 
> into the camera, useless for me, but there might be others who will find it 
> useful who are blind. I’m sure it will be OK for sighted people who like to 
> take pictures. I don’t use 3D Touch all that much. And it supports the 
> T-Mobile band that they activated last year. That’s a big plus for me as a 
> T-Mobile customer. I would gladly trade 3D Touch for the new T-Mobile support.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 5:26 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>> 
>> No 3D Touch, but what they called Haptic something. I guess more than a step 
>> backwards, is because the type of display being used on the XR, isn’t 
>> compatible with 3D touch? it’d be interesting to see if the Haptic feature 
>> works like 3D touch if you guys get one of these soon.
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>> 
>> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:21 p. m., Dave  escribió:
>> 
>>> I think it said, there was no 3D touch, on the XR.
>>> 
>>> If this is true, then it is a backward step.
>>> 
>>> Dave.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Gerardo Corripio
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:15 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>>> 
>>> I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money would 
>>> allow, when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.
>>> 
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>>> 
>>> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave  
>>> escribió:
>>> 
>>>> Likewise.
>>>> 
>>>> Dave.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones
>>>> 
>>>> I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.
>>>> 
>>>> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of lenron brown
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>>>> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 
>>>>> new iphones that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form 
>>>>> factor, the Iphone XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the 
>>>>> Iphone XS max sounds like it's the plus version with a larger 
>>>>> screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper version. The iphone 7 and 
>>>>> 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and the Iphone SE has 
>>>>> been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells any phones 
>>>>> with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got 
>>>>> an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in 
>>>

Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Mary Otten
True enough, but there are other distinctions. Talkback relies even today on 
angle jesters which are very hard for a lot of blind people. Voiceover makes 
use of two and three finger gestures. Talk back does not have any three finger 
gestures ever. So there are still differences. And Apple has implemented 
jesters on the iPhone X to make up for the lack of a home button. And plenty of 
blind people are using them successfully.


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> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:02 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> the Physical Home Button & Then the 3DTouch Home Button enhanced VoiceOver's 
> functionality on iOS & Distinguished it from Google's TalkBack  TouchScreen 
> gestures
> At 05:14 PM 9/12/2018, you wrote:
>> I’ve never understood what the big deal is the phones not having a Home 
>> button. Remember more and more devices lack Home buttons, thus instead of 
>> buttons, you use gestures to simulate Home button functions.
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>> 
>> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 6:51 p. m., Mike Arrigo  escribió:
>> 
>> > It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new 
>> > iphones that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, 
>> > the Iphone XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max 
>> > sounds like it's the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR 
>> > is the cheaper version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget 
>> > iphone models and the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that 
>> > Apple no longer sells any phones with a small form factor now or that have 
>> > a headphone jack. I got an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so 
>> > have no interest in getting any of these new ones at this point, and I'm 
>> > just not ready to give up the home button yet either.
>> >
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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Robin
the Physical Home Button & Then the 3DTouch Home 
Button enhanced VoiceOver's functionality on iOS 
& Distinguished it from Google's TalkBack  TouchScreen gestures

At 05:14 PM 9/12/2018, you wrote:
I’ve never understood what the big deal is the 
phones not having a Home button. Remember more 
and more devices lack Home buttons, thus instead 
of buttons, you use gestures to simulate Home button functions.


Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 6:51 p. m., Mike Arrigo  escribió:

> It looks like Apple is done with the home 
button for good, the 3 new iphones that Apple 
announced are based on the new iphone X form 
factor, the Iphone XS replaces the Iphone X 
from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like 
it's the plus version with a larger screen, and 
the Iphone XR is the cheaper version. The 
iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget 
iphone models and the Iphone SE has been 
discontinued. This means that Apple no longer 
sells any phones with a small form factor now 
or that have a headphone jack. I got an iphone 
8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no 
interest in getting any of these new ones at 
this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the home button yet either.

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RE: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Cris Ali
Hello Folks,
I have never used a phone with 3D touch.  I am wondering, What are the 
advantages of having a 3D touch iPhone?  What would I be missing, for instance, 
If I order the iPhone XR whichdoes not have the 3D touch feature?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

Correct about the no 3D Touch. That haptic thing is just going to let you into 
the camera, useless for me, but there might be others who will find it useful 
who are blind. I’m sure it will be OK for sighted people who like to take 
pictures. I don’t use 3D Touch all that much. And it supports the T-Mobile band 
that they activated last year. That’s a big plus for me as a T-Mobile customer. 
I would gladly trade 3D Touch for the new T-Mobile support.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 5:26 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> No 3D Touch, but what they called Haptic something. I guess more than a step 
> backwards, is because the type of display being used on the XR, isn’t 
> compatible with 3D touch? it’d be interesting to see if the Haptic feature 
> works like 3D touch if you guys get one of these soon.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
> 
> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:21 p. m., Dave  escribió:
> 
>> I think it said, there was no 3D touch, on the XR.
>> 
>> If this is true, then it is a backward step.
>> 
>> Dave.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Gerardo Corripio
>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:15 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>> 
>> I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money would 
>> allow, when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>> 
>> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave  escribió:
>> 
>>> Likewise.
>>> 
>>> Dave.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones
>>> 
>>> I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.
>>> 
>>> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of lenron brown
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>>> 
>>> Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.
>>> 
>>>> On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>>> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 
>>>> new iphones that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form 
>>>> factor, the Iphone XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the 
>>>> Iphone XS max sounds like it's the plus version with a larger 
>>>> screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper version. The iphone 7 and 
>>>> 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and the Iphone SE has 
>>>> been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells any phones 
>>>> with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got 
>>>> an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in 
>>>> getting any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to 
>>>> give up the home button yet either.
>>>> 
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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread goshawk on horseback
I'm also now using the iPhone x. personally, give me the touch ID any day, 
as it could still be easily worked if for example, the phone was in 
something like a bumbag, where as this pesky face id can't.
when I use my phone whilst I am horse riding for example, I prefer to keep 
it in the bumbag, as then there is 0 risk of it dropping to the ground. 
thanks to which ever idiot decided to do away with touch ID however, this is 
now considerably less easy, as I either have to take it out for the face ID, 
or mess around entering the pass code. very not ideal from my point of view, 
which is rather a big shame, as it is a really nice phone apart from this 
issue.

Simon


- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Maslo" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 3:25 AM
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones


Hello list,

I am a proud owner of the iphone x and have had it since it came out. I 
personally find the facial id more secure and faster than the touch id ever 
was. Also who ever said that a blind person could not use attention as part 
of the facial id never has tried it. I use it all the time without issues. 
Also for the person who said they like the touch id easier for the could 
unlock their phone while it was on desk or in their lap, I could do the very 
same thing as you do. Never have issues with it. The gestures used are super 
easy and now that I have switched from the touch id,. I would never go back. 
I have no intent to get a new phone since 30 minutes better battery life 
does not make it worth operating it. Maybe next year. I saw the largest 
phone and I find it way to bid. I would not want to Barry a iPad as a phone.

My opinion only. Have a great day.

Sincerely,

Michael maslo

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 20:02, kitty hevener  wrote:
>
> me too.  Just hope will be able to use it for a few years.  smile!!
>
> -Original Message- From: Mike Capelle
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>
> not happy at all, love my SE.
>
> -Original Message- From: Mike Arrigo
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple's new iphones
>
> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new 
> iphones
> that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone
> XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like 
> it's
> the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper
> version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models 
> and
> the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells
> any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I 
> got
> an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting
> any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the
> home button yet either.
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RE: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Robin
In MyPersonal opinion, Apple  miss'd a Big Opportunity  with the 
Launch of its Anniversary Edition iPhone, the iPhoneX. Because Apple 
could have distinguished this Anniversary Edition by not 
incorporating its Unique features InTo other iPhone Models 
for  another 2 or 3  years, which would have made that Anniversary 
Edition iPhone more special & valuable.  Thus, justifying the Hike or 
Huge Price increase from previous iPhones


I Bet Apple will eventually Jump on the BandWagon of  Built IN 
TouchID InTo its Display as it finally came around with Wireless Charging

At 05:07 PM 9/12/2018, you wrote:

Mike,

Thanks for this summary of the new models. No surprises here which 
is why I got a new iPhone 8 about a month ago. I also wasn't ready 
to give up the home button.


I'm kind of curious where Apple is going with its iPhone naming 
convention. They chose that Roman numeral X but everyone calls it a 
10 anyway and I'm not thinking they will go to a Roman numeral 11 XI 
model. It seems that most car models these days are a combination of 
letters and numbers so maybe they thought the X was fashionable.


Alan Lemly

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Behalf Of Mike Arrigo

Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple's new iphones

It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new 
iphones that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form 
factor, the Iphone XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the 
Iphone XS max sounds like it's the plus version with a larger 
screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper version. The iphone 7 and 8 
will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and the Iphone SE has 
been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells any phones 
with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got an 
iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in 
getting any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready 
to give up the home button yet either.


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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Mary Otten
You know, Mike, the fact that you can use the attention feature is wonderful. 
But one person‘s experience does not mean it will be the same for everyone. I 
know people who can’t use the attention feature. So don’t generalize. We are 
all going to be stuck with this eventually. But making light of a very real 
security risk for those who cannot successfully use this feature is not OK.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:25 PM, Michael Maslo  wrote:
> 
> Hello list,
> 
> I am a proud owner of the iphone x and have had it since it came out. I 
> personally find the facial id more secure and faster than the touch id ever 
> was. Also who ever said that a blind person could not use attention as part 
> of the facial id never has tried it. I use it all the time without issues.  
> Also for the person who said they like the touch id easier for the could 
> unlock their phone while it was on desk or in their lap, I could do the very 
> same thing as you do. Never have issues with it. The gestures used are super 
> easy and now that I have switched from the touch id,. I would never go back. 
> I have no intent to get a new phone since 30 minutes better battery life does 
> not make it worth operating it. Maybe next year. I saw the largest phone and 
> I find it way to bid. I would not want to Barry a iPad as a phone.
> 
> My opinion only. Have a great day.  
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Michael maslo
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 20:02, kitty hevener  wrote:
>> 
>> me too.  Just hope will be able to use it for a few years.  smile!!
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Mike Capelle
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>> 
>> not happy at all, love my SE.
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Mike Arrigo
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:51 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple's new iphones
>> 
>> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new iphones
>> that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone
>> XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like it's
>> the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper
>> version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and
>> the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells
>> any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got
>> an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting
>> any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the
>> home button yet either.
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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Michael Maslo
Hello list,

I am a proud owner of the iphone x and have had it since it came out. I 
personally find the facial id more secure and faster than the touch id ever 
was. Also who ever said that a blind person could not use attention as part of 
the facial id never has tried it. I use it all the time without issues.  Also 
for the person who said they like the touch id easier for the could unlock 
their phone while it was on desk or in their lap, I could do the very same 
thing as you do. Never have issues with it. The gestures used are super easy 
and now that I have switched from the touch id,. I would never go back. I have 
no intent to get a new phone since 30 minutes better battery life does not make 
it worth operating it. Maybe next year. I saw the largest phone and I find it 
way to bid. I would not want to Barry a iPad as a phone.

My opinion only. Have a great day.  

Sincerely,

Michael maslo

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 20:02, kitty hevener  wrote:
> 
> me too.  Just hope will be able to use it for a few years.  smile!!
> 
> -Original Message- From: Mike Capelle
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
> 
> not happy at all, love my SE.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Mike Arrigo
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple's new iphones
> 
> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new iphones
> that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone
> XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like it's
> the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper
> version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and
> the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells
> any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got
> an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting
> any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the
> home button yet either.
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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Mike Arrigo
The iphone 8 will start out at $549 and I think this is for the 64 GB model so 
that's a pretty good price.

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:00 PM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> Likewise.
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones
> 
> I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.
> 
> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
> brown
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
> 
> Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.
> 
> On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new iphones
>> that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone
>> XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like it's
>> the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper
>> version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and
>> the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells
>> any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got
>> an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting
>> any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the
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RE: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Alan Lemly
Maria,

Yes, I'm aware that X is the Roman numeral for 10. My point was that I wondered 
why they switched from Arabic to Roman numerals if they were going to call it a 
10 anyway.

Alan

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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The X is the roman numeral for 10 and if it was iPhone XI it would be iPhone 
11. Speeking about the iPhone X it has been discontinued.

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:07 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Mike,
> 
> Thanks for this summary of the new models. No surprises here which is why I 
> got a new iPhone 8 about a month ago. I also wasn't ready to give up the home 
> button. 
> 
> I'm kind of curious where Apple is going with its iPhone naming convention. 
> They chose that Roman numeral X but everyone calls it a 10 anyway and I'm not 
> thinking they will go to a Roman numeral 11 XI model. It seems that most car 
> models these days are a combination of letters and numbers so maybe they 
> thought the X was fashionable.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple's new iphones
> 
> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new iphones 
> that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone XS 
> replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like it's the 
> plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper version. 
> The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and the Iphone 
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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Gestures on the touch screen will only work when the touch screen is on 
and active. The nice thing about a home button, in addition to the fact 
that it's another anchor point to use for orientation, is that it's 
another mechanical switch that will work even when the touch screen 
isn't on and active. This gives you more options when the touch screen 
isn't active to interact with your phone, such as waking it up from the 
lock state, resetting the phone when there's a problem with the 
interface or enabling a screen reader before you have feedback from the 
screen.



On 09/12/2018 07:14 PM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:

I’ve never understood what the big deal is the phones not having a Home button. 
Remember more and more devices lack Home buttons, thus instead of buttons, you 
use gestures to simulate Home button functions.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 6:51 p. m., Mike Arrigo  escribió:


It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new iphones 
that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone XS 
replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like it's the 
plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper version. 
The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and the Iphone 
SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells any phones with 
a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got an iphone 8 and 
iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting any of these new 
ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the home button yet 
either.

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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Sandra Streeter

I do.





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until it is faced."

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-Original Message- 
From: 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone

Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

I feel like nobody uses 3D Touch anyway.

On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:27 PM, Mike Capelle  
wrote:


that is right, no more 3d touch.

-Original Message- From: Dave
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

I think it said, there was no 3D touch, on the XR.

If this is true, then it is a backward step.

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money would
allow, when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave 
escribió:


Likewise.

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones

I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
lenron brown

Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.


On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new 
iphones
that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the 
Iphone
XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like 
it's

the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper
version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models 
and
the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer 
sells
any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I 
got
an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in 
getting
any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up 
the

home button yet either.

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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Sandra Streeter
I also don't like the idea of a big, honkin' screen. I am small-handed, and 
appreciate it when I don't have to reach far for items; I know you can do 
that "reachability" thing, but it's also about just not wanting a wider 
distance from edge to edge. Plus, I don't want to have to find more real 
estate within whatever carry-bag I happen to have, just to accommodate a 
larger screen. If I were low-vision and not total, that would probably be 
different.




Sandra

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until it is faced."

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-Original Message- 
From: Mary Otten

Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

I see a couple of things about not having a home button. The first one is 
the touch ID is simply more convenient for me as a blind person then Face 
ID. I don’t have to be looking at the phone. I can have it on my desk even 
under my desk on my keyboard shelf, and activate it with touch ID. I could 
have it in my pocket and activate it with touch ID. Also, if you happen to 
be one of those blind people who can’t use the attention feature of the Face 
ID, Face ID is massively not secure. If somebody takes your iPhone, all they 
have to do is put it in front of your face, and it opens, and they have 
access to everything. And that can be a problem in certain settings. If you’re 
lucky enough to be able to use the attention setting, which all ighted 
people do, that’s not a big deal. But in certain settings, it’s everything 
from a nuisance to a serious risk. And finally, there is the matter of the 
gestures. Yes, I’m sure they are doable. Blind people are doing them. But it’s 
just so unnecessary. It’s just a shame that they couldn’t keep a phone 
around with the home button and touch ID. But everybody has to have giant 
displays so they can watch movies on their phones I guess. It certainly is 
the wave of the future for Apple. So if you’re going to stick with Apple 
products, guess you have to get on the bandwagon. I certainly would not buy 
either of the S models. If I get an ex this year, it’s going to be the R. I 
just don’t see enough bang for the buck to splurge on those other things. If 
I traveled a lot, the dual sim feature is interesting. And the stereo 
recording would be good for some people. But it’s not worth at least $250 
more over the cost of the entry-level r model.



Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 12, 2018, at 5:15 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:

I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money would 
allow, when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.


Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave  
escribió:



Likewise.

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones

I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
lenron brown

Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.


On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new 
iphones
that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the 
Iphone
XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like 
it's

the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper
version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models 
and
the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer 
sells
any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I 
got
an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in 
getting
any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up 
the

home button yet either.

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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Mary Otten
Correct about the no 3D Touch. That haptic thing is just going to let you into 
the camera, useless for me, but there might be others who will find it useful 
who are blind. I’m sure it will be OK for sighted people who like to take 
pictures. I don’t use 3D Touch all that much. And it supports the T-Mobile band 
that they activated last year. That’s a big plus for me as a T-Mobile customer. 
I would gladly trade 3D Touch for the new T-Mobile support.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 5:26 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> No 3D Touch, but what they called Haptic something. I guess more than a step 
> backwards, is because the type of display being used on the XR, isn’t 
> compatible with 3D touch? it’d be interesting to see if the Haptic feature 
> works like 3D touch if you guys get one of these soon.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
> 
> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:21 p. m., Dave  escribió:
> 
>> I think it said, there was no 3D touch, on the XR.
>> 
>> If this is true, then it is a backward step.
>> 
>> Dave.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Gerardo Corripio
>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:15 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>> 
>> I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money would 
>> allow, when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>> 
>> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave  escribió:
>> 
>>> Likewise.
>>> 
>>> Dave.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones
>>> 
>>> I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.
>>> 
>>> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> lenron brown
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>>> 
>>> Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.
>>> 
>>>> On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>>> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new 
>>>> iphones
>>>> that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone
>>>> XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like it's
>>>> the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper
>>>> version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and
>>>> the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells
>>>> any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I 
>>>> got
>>>> an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting
>>>> any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the
>>>> home button yet either.
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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Sandra Streeter

Adding my vote for nothing higher than an 8, at this point, too.




Sandra

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until it is faced."

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-Original Message- 
From: Dave

Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

Likewise.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Sarai Bucciarelli

Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones

I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
lenron brown
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.

On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new 
iphones

that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone
XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like 
it's

the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper
version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models 
and

the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells
any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I 
got

an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting
any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the
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2018-09-12 Thread kitty hevener

me too.  Just hope will be able to use it for a few years.  smile!!

-Original Message- 
From: Mike Capelle

Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

not happy at all, love my SE.

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple's new iphones

It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new iphones
that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone
XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like it's
the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper
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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone
I feel like nobody uses 3D Touch anyway. 

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:27 PM, Mike Capelle  wrote:
> 
> that is right, no more 3d touch.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Dave
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
> 
> I think it said, there was no 3D touch, on the XR.
> 
> If this is true, then it is a backward step.
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
> 
> I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money would
> allow, when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
> 
> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave 
> escribió:
> 
>> Likewise.
>> 
>> Dave.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones
>> 
>> I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.
>> 
>> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
>> 
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> lenron brown
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>> 
>> Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.
>> 
>>> On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new iphones
>>> that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone
>>> XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like it's
>>> the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper
>>> version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and
>>> the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells
>>> any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got
>>> an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting
>>> any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the
>>> home button yet either.
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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Mike Capelle

that is right, no more 3d touch.

-Original Message- 
From: Dave

Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

I think it said, there was no 3D touch, on the XR.

If this is true, then it is a backward step.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Gerardo Corripio

Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money would
allow, when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave 
escribió:


Likewise.

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones

I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
lenron brown

Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.


On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new 
iphones
that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the 
Iphone
XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like 
it's

the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper
version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models 
and
the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer 
sells
any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I 
got
an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in 
getting
any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up 
the

home button yet either.

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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Gerardo Corripio
No 3D Touch, but what they called Haptic something. I guess more than a step 
backwards, is because the type of display being used on the XR, isn’t 
compatible with 3D touch? it’d be interesting to see if the Haptic feature 
works like 3D touch if you guys get one of these soon.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:21 p. m., Dave  escribió:

> I think it said, there was no 3D touch, on the XR.
> 
> If this is true, then it is a backward step.
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
> 
> I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money would 
> allow, when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
> 
> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave  escribió:
> 
>> Likewise.
>> 
>> Dave.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones
>> 
>> I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.
>> 
>> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> lenron brown
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>> 
>> Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.
>> 
>>> On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new iphones
>>> that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone
>>> XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like it's
>>> the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper
>>> version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and
>>> the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells
>>> any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got
>>> an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting
>>> any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the
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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Mary Otten
I see a couple of things about not having a home button. The first one is the 
touch ID is simply more convenient for me as a blind person then Face ID. I 
don’t have to be looking at the phone. I can have it on my desk even under my 
desk on my keyboard shelf, and activate it with touch ID. I could have it in my 
pocket and activate it with touch ID. Also, if you happen to be one of those 
blind people who can’t use the attention feature of the Face ID, Face ID is 
massively not secure. If somebody takes your iPhone, all they have to do is put 
it in front of your face, and it opens, and they have access to everything. And 
that can be a problem in certain settings. If you’re lucky enough to be able to 
use the attention setting, which all ighted people do, that’s not a big deal. 
But in certain settings, it’s everything from a nuisance to a serious risk. And 
finally, there is the matter of the gestures. Yes, I’m sure they are doable. 
Blind people are doing them. But it’s just so unnecessary. It’s just a shame 
that they couldn’t keep a phone around with the home button and touch ID. But 
everybody has to have giant displays so they can watch movies on their phones I 
guess. It certainly is the wave of the future for Apple. So if you’re going to 
stick with Apple products, guess you have to get on the bandwagon. I certainly 
would not buy either of the S models. If I get an ex this year, it’s going to 
be the R. I just don’t see enough bang for the buck to splurge on those other 
things. If I traveled a lot, the dual sim feature is interesting. And the 
stereo recording would be good for some people. But it’s not worth at least 
$250 more over the cost of the entry-level r model.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 5:15 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money would 
> allow, when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
> 
> El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave  escribió:
> 
>> Likewise.
>> 
>> Dave.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones
>> 
>> I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.
>> 
>> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> lenron brown
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>> 
>> Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.
>> 
>>> On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new iphones
>>> that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone
>>> XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like it's
>>> the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper
>>> version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and
>>> the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells
>>> any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got
>>> an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting
>>> any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the
>>> home button yet either.
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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Dave

I think it said, there was no 3D touch, on the XR.

If this is true, then it is a backward step.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Gerardo Corripio

Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money would 
allow, when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.


Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave  
escribió:



Likewise.

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones

I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
lenron brown

Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.


On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new 
iphones
that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the 
Iphone
XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like 
it's

the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper
version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models 
and
the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer 
sells
any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I 
got
an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in 
getting
any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up 
the

home button yet either.

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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Gerardo Corripio
I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money would allow, 
when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave  escribió:

> Likewise.
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones
> 
> I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.
> 
> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
> brown
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
> 
> Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.
> 
>> On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new iphones
>> that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone
>> XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like it's
>> the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper
>> version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and
>> the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells
>> any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got
>> an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting
>> any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the
>> home button yet either.
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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Gerardo Corripio
I’ve never understood what the big deal is the phones not having a Home button. 
Remember more and more devices lack Home buttons, thus instead of buttons, you 
use gestures to simulate Home button functions.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 6:51 p. m., Mike Arrigo  escribió:

> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new iphones 
> that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone XS 
> replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like it's the 
> plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper version. 
> The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and the Iphone 
> SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells any phones 
> with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got an iphone 8 
> and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting any of these 
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> either.
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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone
The X is the roman numeral for 10 and if it was iPhone XI it would be iPhone 
11. Speeking about the iPhone X it has been discontinued.

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:07 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Mike,
> 
> Thanks for this summary of the new models. No surprises here which is why I 
> got a new iPhone 8 about a month ago. I also wasn't ready to give up the home 
> button. 
> 
> I'm kind of curious where Apple is going with its iPhone naming convention. 
> They chose that Roman numeral X but everyone calls it a 10 anyway and I'm not 
> thinking they will go to a Roman numeral 11 XI model. It seems that most car 
> models these days are a combination of letters and numbers so maybe they 
> thought the X was fashionable.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
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> Subject: Apple's new iphones
> 
> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new iphones 
> that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone XS 
> replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like it's the 
> plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper version. 
> The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and the Iphone 
> SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells any phones 
> with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got an iphone 8 
> and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting any of these 
> new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the home button yet 
> either.
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RE: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Alan Lemly
Mike,

Thanks for this summary of the new models. No surprises here which is why I got 
a new iPhone 8 about a month ago. I also wasn't ready to give up the home 
button. 

I'm kind of curious where Apple is going with its iPhone naming convention. 
They chose that Roman numeral X but everyone calls it a 10 anyway and I'm not 
thinking they will go to a Roman numeral 11 XI model. It seems that most car 
models these days are a combination of letters and numbers so maybe they 
thought the X was fashionable.

Alan Lemly

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Subject: Apple's new iphones

It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new iphones 
that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone XS 
replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like it's the 
plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper version. 
The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and the Iphone 
SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells any phones with 
a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got an iphone 8 and 
iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting any of these new 
ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the home button yet 
either.

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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Mike Capelle

same here, i am happy with my se.

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Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

Likewise.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
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Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones

I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

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Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.

On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new 
iphones

that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone
XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like 
it's

the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper
version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models 
and

the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells
any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I 
got

an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting
any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the
home button yet either.

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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Mike Capelle

not happy at all, love my SE.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike Arrigo

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Subject: Apple's new iphones

It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new iphones 
that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone 
XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like it's 
the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper 
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the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells 
any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got 
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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Dave

Likewise.

Dave.


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I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

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Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.

On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new 
iphones

that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone
XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like 
it's

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version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models 
and

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any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I 
got

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RE: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
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Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones

Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.

On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new iphones
> that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone
> XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like it's
> the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper
> version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and
> the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells
> any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got
> an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting
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> home button yet either.
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Re: Apple's new iphones

2018-09-12 Thread lenron brown
Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.

On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new iphones
> that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone
> XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like it's
> the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper
> version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and
> the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells
> any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got
> an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting
> any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the
> home button yet either.
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