Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3
> Thanks Richard for such a quick response. Inspired by your responses during > this thread, I've picked up my device and I'm using it now with the speech > turned off. The only difference is that because I'm from the old school of > braille reading and writing, I use the older Grade 2 braille. I just can't > bring myself to use UEB yet, though I can read it well enough when I see it > on restaurant menus and such. My device appears to be working for now. > Thanks again. > > > > Peace & Blessings, > Duane L. Steele > Phone (276) 730-5194 > > On Oct 24, 2019, at 3:44 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > I use UEB contracted for both output and input. > > > > > Richard > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." > -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane > Wagner > > > On Oct 24, 2019, at 12:34 PM, Duane Steele wrote: > > Richard, thanks for the info. Just one more question. Were you writing in > contracted or uncontracted braille? I ask this because if I put my > BrailleEdge in 8-dot modes for both output and input, and write in ASCII > braille, I'm less likely to have cursor-routing problems. I use 8-dot mode to > edit completed documents letter by letter. I also sometimes have problem > using the BrailleEdge for entering text when paying bills or filling out > other documents that I didn't experience in earlier iPhone versions. There > are definitely some bugs when using braille devices. > > > Peace & Blessings, > Duane L. Steele > Phone (276) 730-5194 > > On Oct 24, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > I just did a test with the Braille Edge and my work iPhone 8 plus running > iOS 13.1.3. > I wrote a long note in Voice Dream Writer, and in Email. > There was no lag to speak of. > I could use the routing buttons on the display to put me on a word or > character where I needed to make a correction. > When I then used the rotor commands to move by character or word, the cursor > moved exactly where I wanted it. > Now, if you are doing this with VoiceOver speech on, you will here VoiceOver > reading way too much. > Turn off the speech, and your editing experience might improve. > > > > > Richard > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." > -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane > Wagner > > > On Oct 23, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Duane Steele wrote: > > > Hello iPhone friends, > > You'll recall that I wrote on this particular thread about braille displays > yesterday when my phone made its own decision to update. I have since > discovered that the only way to get the routing keys to work properly when > editing a document is to make sure when you are in the document that the > rotor is set properly to words or characters. Unfortunately, you have to > check this every time you edit a document using your braille display. > > > > Peace & Blessings, > Duane L. Steele > Phone (276) 730-5194 > > On Oct 23, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Johnna Simmons wrote: > > Try using the ST cord dots 34 and to get your status informationTry using > the ST corn dogs 34 and to get your status > > Johnna Simmons > > On Oct 22, 2019, at 11:47 AM, Duane Steele wrote: > > > > Tom, I'm using the BrailleEdge 40 from Hims, and also having some issues > since my phone decided to update this morning. For example, holding down the > space-bar plus the braille letter s used to take me directly to the status > bar where I could check immediately how much charge I had left. Now, nothing > happens when I press that key combination. Since I'm still figuring out the > update, I'm bound to have more questions. I'm not happy about this either. > > > Peace & Blessings, > Duane L. Steele > Phone (276) 730-5194 > > On Oct 22, 2019, at 9:49 AM, Tom Lange wrote: > > Hi, > I’m using a Braille Sense U2 with an iphone 8 running IOS 13.1.3 and I’m > really disgusted with how this combination is working, particularly when it > comes to doing any kind of lengthy text editing. Cursor routing becomes > erratic. Voiceover can slow down and crash. It’s just awful. I could go into > detail, but VO will probably give me trouble while I do so. Anybody else out > there having trouble with Braille displays in IOs 13? > Tom > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: >
Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3
I use UEB contracted for both output and input. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Oct 24, 2019, at 12:34 PM, Duane Steele wrote: Richard, thanks for the info. Just one more question. Were you writing in contracted or uncontracted braille? I ask this because if I put my BrailleEdge in 8-dot modes for both output and input, and write in ASCII braille, I'm less likely to have cursor-routing problems. I use 8-dot mode to edit completed documents letter by letter. I also sometimes have problem using the BrailleEdge for entering text when paying bills or filling out other documents that I didn't experience in earlier iPhone versions. There are definitely some bugs when using braille devices. Peace & Blessings, Duane L. Steele Phone (276) 730-5194 On Oct 24, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Richard Turner wrote: I just did a test with the Braille Edge and my work iPhone 8 plus running iOS 13.1.3. I wrote a long note in Voice Dream Writer, and in Email. There was no lag to speak of. I could use the routing buttons on the display to put me on a word or character where I needed to make a correction. When I then used the rotor commands to move by character or word, the cursor moved exactly where I wanted it. Now, if you are doing this with VoiceOver speech on, you will here VoiceOver reading way too much. Turn off the speech, and your editing experience might improve. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Oct 23, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Duane Steele wrote: Hello iPhone friends, You'll recall that I wrote on this particular thread about braille displays yesterday when my phone made its own decision to update. I have since discovered that the only way to get the routing keys to work properly when editing a document is to make sure when you are in the document that the rotor is set properly to words or characters. Unfortunately, you have to check this every time you edit a document using your braille display. Peace & Blessings, Duane L. Steele Phone (276) 730-5194 On Oct 23, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Johnna Simmons wrote: Try using the ST cord dots 34 and to get your status informationTry using the ST corn dogs 34 and to get your status Johnna Simmons On Oct 22, 2019, at 11:47 AM, Duane Steele wrote: Tom, I'm using the BrailleEdge 40 from Hims, and also having some issues since my phone decided to update this morning. For example, holding down the space-bar plus the braille letter s used to take me directly to the status bar where I could check immediately how much charge I had left. Now, nothing happens when I press that key combination. Since I'm still figuring out the update, I'm bound to have more questions. I'm not happy about this either. Peace & Blessings, Duane L. Steele Phone (276) 730-5194 On Oct 22, 2019, at 9:49 AM, Tom Lange wrote: Hi, I’m using a Braille Sense U2 with an iphone 8 running IOS 13.1.3 and I’m really disgusted with how this combination is working, particularly when it comes to doing any kind of lengthy text editing. Cursor routing becomes erratic. Voiceover can slow down and crash. It’s just awful. I could go into detail, but VO will probably give me trouble while I do so. Anybody else out there having trouble with Braille displays in IOs 13? Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C1f916bd3c8d3408938fc08d757caed12%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637074401379067181sdata=dPb3ie%2FiJtv6jBFrv7Nkm5g7x2z%2F2B1EhmXmx8F12g4%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F30B28196-0288-4FF4-921F-E6AE1418AF05%2540gmail.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C1f916bd3c8d3408938fc08d757caed12%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637074401379067181sdata=U6jCc3nPSFAplf2LoFP2c7k6tcXpRKA3oM4kXbQGQDU%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important
Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3
Richard, thanks for the info. Just one more question. Were you writing in contracted or uncontracted braille? I ask this because if I put my BrailleEdge in 8-dot modes for both output and input, and write in ASCII braille, I'm less likely to have cursor-routing problems. I use 8-dot mode to edit completed documents letter by letter. I also sometimes have problem using the BrailleEdge for entering text when paying bills or filling out other documents that I didn't experience in earlier iPhone versions. There are definitely some bugs when using braille devices. Peace & Blessings, Duane L. Steele Phone (276) 730-5194 > On Oct 24, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > I just did a test with the Braille Edge and my work iPhone 8 plus running > iOS 13.1.3. > I wrote a long note in Voice Dream Writer, and in Email. > There was no lag to speak of. > I could use the routing buttons on the display to put me on a word or > character where I needed to make a correction. > When I then used the rotor commands to move by character or word, the cursor > moved exactly where I wanted it. > Now, if you are doing this with VoiceOver speech on, you will here VoiceOver > reading way too much. > Turn off the speech, and your editing experience might improve. > > > > > Richard > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." > -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane > Wagner > > >>> On Oct 23, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Duane Steele wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> Hello iPhone friends, >>> >>> You'll recall that I wrote on this particular thread about braille displays >>> yesterday when my phone made its own decision to update. I have since >>> discovered that the only way to get the routing keys to work properly when >>> editing a document is to make sure when you are in the document that the >>> rotor is set properly to words or characters. Unfortunately, you have to >>> check this every time you edit a document using your braille display. >> >>> >>> >>> Peace & Blessings, >>> Duane L. Steele >>> Phone (276) 730-5194 >>> On Oct 23, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Johnna Simmons wrote: >>> >>> Try using the ST cord dots 34 and to get your status informationTry using >>> the ST corn dogs 34 and to get your status >>> >>> Johnna Simmons >>> On Oct 22, 2019, at 11:47 AM, Duane Steele wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Tom, I'm using the BrailleEdge 40 from Hims, and also having some issues >>> since my phone decided to update this morning. For example, holding down >>> the space-bar plus the braille letter s used to take me directly to the >>> status bar where I could check immediately how much charge I had left. >>> Now, nothing happens when I press that key combination. Since I'm still >>> figuring out the update, I'm bound to have more questions. I'm not happy >>> about this either. >>> >>> >>> Peace & Blessings, >>> Duane L. Steele >>> Phone (276) 730-5194 >>> On Oct 22, 2019, at 9:49 AM, Tom Lange wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> I’m using a Braille Sense U2 with an iphone 8 running IOS 13.1.3 and I’m >>> really disgusted with how this combination is working, particularly when it >>> comes to doing any kind of lengthy text editing. Cursor routing becomes >>> erratic. Voiceover can slow down and crash. It’s just awful. I could go >>> into detail, but VO will probably give me trouble while I do so. Anybody >>> else out there having trouble with Braille displays in IOs 13? >>> Tom >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C1f916bd3c8d3408938fc08d757caed12%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637074401379067181sdata=dPb3ie%2FiJtv6jBFrv7Nkm5g7x2z%2F2B1EhmXmx8F12g4%3Dreserved=0 >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>
Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3
I just did a test with the Braille Edge and my work iPhone 8 plus running iOS 13.1.3. I wrote a long note in Voice Dream Writer, and in Email. There was no lag to speak of. I could use the routing buttons on the display to put me on a word or character where I needed to make a correction. When I then used the rotor commands to move by character or word, the cursor moved exactly where I wanted it. Now, if you are doing this with VoiceOver speech on, you will here VoiceOver reading way too much. Turn off the speech, and your editing experience might improve. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Oct 23, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Duane Steele wrote: Hello iPhone friends, You'll recall that I wrote on this particular thread about braille displays yesterday when my phone made its own decision to update. I have since discovered that the only way to get the routing keys to work properly when editing a document is to make sure when you are in the document that the rotor is set properly to words or characters. Unfortunately, you have to check this every time you edit a document using your braille display. Peace & Blessings, Duane L. Steele Phone (276) 730-5194 On Oct 23, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Johnna Simmons wrote: Try using the ST cord dots 34 and to get your status informationTry using the ST corn dogs 34 and to get your status Johnna Simmons On Oct 22, 2019, at 11:47 AM, Duane Steele wrote: Tom, I'm using the BrailleEdge 40 from Hims, and also having some issues since my phone decided to update this morning. For example, holding down the space-bar plus the braille letter s used to take me directly to the status bar where I could check immediately how much charge I had left. Now, nothing happens when I press that key combination. Since I'm still figuring out the update, I'm bound to have more questions. I'm not happy about this either. Peace & Blessings, Duane L. Steele Phone (276) 730-5194 On Oct 22, 2019, at 9:49 AM, Tom Lange wrote: Hi, I’m using a Braille Sense U2 with an iphone 8 running IOS 13.1.3 and I’m really disgusted with how this combination is working, particularly when it comes to doing any kind of lengthy text editing. Cursor routing becomes erratic. Voiceover can slow down and crash. It’s just awful. I could go into detail, but VO will probably give me trouble while I do so. Anybody else out there having trouble with Braille displays in IOs 13? Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C1f916bd3c8d3408938fc08d757caed12%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637074401379067181sdata=dPb3ie%2FiJtv6jBFrv7Nkm5g7x2z%2F2B1EhmXmx8F12g4%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F30B28196-0288-4FF4-921F-E6AE1418AF05%2540gmail.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C1f916bd3c8d3408938fc08d757caed12%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637074401379067181sdata=U6jCc3nPSFAplf2LoFP2c7k6tcXpRKA3oM4kXbQGQDU%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C1f916bd3c8d3408938fc08d757caed12%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637074401379067181sdata=dPb3ie%2FiJtv6jBFrv7Nkm5g7x2z%2F2B1EhmXmx8F12g4%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3
> Hello iPhone friends, > > You'll recall that I wrote on this particular thread about braille displays > yesterday when my phone made its own decision to update. I have since > discovered that the only way to get the routing keys to work properly when > editing a document is to make sure when you are in the document that the > rotor is set properly to words or characters. Unfortunately, you have to > check this every time you edit a document using your braille display. > > > Peace & Blessings, > Duane L. Steele > Phone (276) 730-5194 > > On Oct 23, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Johnna Simmons wrote: > > Try using the ST cord dots 34 and to get your status informationTry using > the ST corn dogs 34 and to get your status > > Johnna Simmons > > On Oct 22, 2019, at 11:47 AM, Duane Steele wrote: > > > > Tom, I'm using the BrailleEdge 40 from Hims, and also having some issues > since my phone decided to update this morning. For example, holding down the > space-bar plus the braille letter s used to take me directly to the status > bar where I could check immediately how much charge I had left. Now, nothing > happens when I press that key combination. Since I'm still figuring out the > update, I'm bound to have more questions. I'm not happy about this either. > > > Peace & Blessings, > Duane L. Steele > Phone (276) 730-5194 > > On Oct 22, 2019, at 9:49 AM, Tom Lange wrote: > > Hi, > I’m using a Braille Sense U2 with an iphone 8 running IOS 13.1.3 and I’m > really disgusted with how this combination is working, particularly when it > comes to doing any kind of lengthy text editing. Cursor routing becomes > erratic. Voiceover can slow down and crash. It’s just awful. I could go into > detail, but VO will probably give me trouble while I do so. Anybody else out > there having trouble with Braille displays in IOs 13? > Tom > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/30B28196-0288-4FF4-921F-E6AE1418AF05%40gmail.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/45749B89-CAF6-426F-B963-188757F1191E%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/550CB23D-85B0-48A5-B79D-2E33F62C6C90%40gmail.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if
Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3
Try using the ST cord dots 34 and to get your status informationTry using the ST corn dogs 34 and to get your status Johnna Simmons > On Oct 22, 2019, at 11:47 AM, Duane Steele wrote: > > >> >> Tom, I'm using the BrailleEdge 40 from Hims, and also having some issues >> since my phone decided to update this morning. For example, holding down the >> space-bar plus the braille letter s used to take me directly to the status >> bar where I could check immediately how much charge I had left. Now, >> nothing happens when I press that key combination. Since I'm still figuring >> out the update, I'm bound to have more questions. I'm not happy about this >> either. > >> >> Peace & Blessings, >> Duane L. Steele >> Phone (276) 730-5194 >> >> On Oct 22, 2019, at 9:49 AM, Tom Lange wrote: >> >> Hi, >> I’m using a Braille Sense U2 with an iphone 8 running IOS 13.1.3 and I’m >> really disgusted with how this combination is working, particularly when it >> comes to doing any kind of lengthy text editing. Cursor routing becomes >> erratic. Voiceover can slow down and crash. It’s just awful. I could go into >> detail, but VO will probably give me trouble while I do so. Anybody else out >> there having trouble with Braille displays in IOs 13? >> Tom >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/30B28196-0288-4FF4-921F-E6AE1418AF05%40gmail.com. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/45749B89-CAF6-426F-B963-188757F1191E%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/550CB23D-85B0-48A5-B79D-2E33F62C6C90%40gmail.com.
Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3
> > Hi > Most of the text editing that I do on the phone is in the native mail app or > on Facebook app. Cursor routing is an issue, VO gets sluggish and can > crash, and losing focus is also a problem. It’s driving me nuts. I haven’t > seen Braille getting this flakey in years. > > On Oct 22, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw wrote: > > I would say the biggest problem I see is not being able to route the > cursor using my braille display. Now, I always have to use VO to make > sure that it is on the correct line; then I can route the cursor. But > it's a royal pain. > > On 10/22/19, Richard Turner wrote: > tom, > When you say long text editing, what app are you in? > Are you talking text messages, or other apps? > Knowing that would help trying to ,duplicate the issue. > > > > > Richard > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with > it." > -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane > Wagner > > > On Oct 22, 2019, at 10:22 AM, "kheve...@earthlink.net" > wrote: > > Tom, I have not taken the plunge to ios 13 because I understand there are > many problems with braille devices. So, am trying to hold off till those > bugs are fixed. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Tom Lange > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 9:50 AM > To: vi-phone list > Subject: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3 > > Hi, > I’m using a Braille Sense U2 with an iphone 8 running IOS 13.1.3 and I’m > really disgusted with how this combination is working, particularly when it > comes to doing any kind of lengthy text editing. Cursor routing becomes > erratic. Voiceover can slow down and crash. It’s just awful. I could go into > detail, but VO will probably give me trouble while I do so. Anybody else out > there having trouble with Braille displays in IOs 13? > Tom > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2415787c8fc4d5b66fe08d75714623e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637073617363771068sdata=%2BsKC7mBXvreS0ZGaFljmEuAmuxLdQjBgaociU52m40Q%3Dreserved=0 > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F30B28196-0288-4FF4-921F-E6AE1418AF05%2540gmail.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2415787c8fc4d5b66fe08d75714623e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637073617363771068sdata=CIpqCj0FnQc83%2FzzSyYz%2FOZi6epHEr1MMjB7B%2FiCSB0%3Dreserved=0. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2415787c8fc4d5b66fe08d75714623e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637073617363771068sdata=%2BsKC7mBXvreS0ZGaFljmEuAmuxLdQjBgaociU52m40Q%3Dreserved=0 > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F064801d588fd%25243aafc980%2524b00f5c80%2524%2540earthlink.netdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2415787c8fc4d5b66fe08d75714623e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637073617363771068sdata=3sBS8WU0TfB9SfdVyte9s6Q5xLN4IaHK63VuDLH2qQA%3Dreserved=0. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you
Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3
I would say the biggest problem I see is not being able to route the cursor using my braille display. Now, I always have to use VO to make sure that it is on the correct line; then I can route the cursor. But it's a royal pain. On 10/22/19, Richard Turner wrote: > tom, > When you say long text editing, what app are you in? > Are you talking text messages, or other apps? > Knowing that would help trying to ,duplicate the issue. > > > > > Richard > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with > it." > -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane > Wagner > > > On Oct 22, 2019, at 10:22 AM, "kheve...@earthlink.net" > wrote: > > Tom, I have not taken the plunge to ios 13 because I understand there are > many problems with braille devices. So, am trying to hold off till those > bugs are fixed. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Tom Lange > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 9:50 AM > To: vi-phone list > Subject: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3 > > Hi, > I’m using a Braille Sense U2 with an iphone 8 running IOS 13.1.3 and I’m > really disgusted with how this combination is working, particularly when it > comes to doing any kind of lengthy text editing. Cursor routing becomes > erratic. Voiceover can slow down and crash. It’s just awful. I could go into > detail, but VO will probably give me trouble while I do so. Anybody else out > there having trouble with Braille displays in IOs 13? > Tom > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2415787c8fc4d5b66fe08d75714623e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637073617363771068sdata=%2BsKC7mBXvreS0ZGaFljmEuAmuxLdQjBgaociU52m40Q%3Dreserved=0 > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F30B28196-0288-4FF4-921F-E6AE1418AF05%2540gmail.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2415787c8fc4d5b66fe08d75714623e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637073617363771068sdata=CIpqCj0FnQc83%2FzzSyYz%2FOZi6epHEr1MMjB7B%2FiCSB0%3Dreserved=0. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2415787c8fc4d5b66fe08d75714623e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637073617363771068sdata=%2BsKC7mBXvreS0ZGaFljmEuAmuxLdQjBgaociU52m40Q%3Dreserved=0 > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F064801d588fd%25243aafc980%2524b00f5c80%2524%2540earthlink.netdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2415787c8fc4d5b66fe08d75714623e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637073617363771068sdata=3sBS8WU0TfB9SfdVyte9s6Q5xLN4IaHK63VuDLH2qQA%3Dreserved=0. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: >
Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3
tom, When you say long text editing, what app are you in? Are you talking text messages, or other apps? Knowing that would help trying to ,duplicate the issue. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Oct 22, 2019, at 10:22 AM, "kheve...@earthlink.net" wrote: Tom, I have not taken the plunge to ios 13 because I understand there are many problems with braille devices. So, am trying to hold off till those bugs are fixed. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Lange Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 9:50 AM To: vi-phone list Subject: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3 Hi, I’m using a Braille Sense U2 with an iphone 8 running IOS 13.1.3 and I’m really disgusted with how this combination is working, particularly when it comes to doing any kind of lengthy text editing. Cursor routing becomes erratic. Voiceover can slow down and crash. It’s just awful. I could go into detail, but VO will probably give me trouble while I do so. Anybody else out there having trouble with Braille displays in IOs 13? Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2415787c8fc4d5b66fe08d75714623e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637073617363771068sdata=%2BsKC7mBXvreS0ZGaFljmEuAmuxLdQjBgaociU52m40Q%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F30B28196-0288-4FF4-921F-E6AE1418AF05%2540gmail.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2415787c8fc4d5b66fe08d75714623e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637073617363771068sdata=CIpqCj0FnQc83%2FzzSyYz%2FOZi6epHEr1MMjB7B%2FiCSB0%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2415787c8fc4d5b66fe08d75714623e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637073617363771068sdata=%2BsKC7mBXvreS0ZGaFljmEuAmuxLdQjBgaociU52m40Q%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F064801d588fd%25243aafc980%2524b00f5c80%2524%2540earthlink.netdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2415787c8fc4d5b66fe08d75714623e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637073617363771068sdata=3sBS8WU0TfB9SfdVyte9s6Q5xLN4IaHK63VuDLH2qQA%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit
RE: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3
Tom, I have not taken the plunge to ios 13 because I understand there are many problems with braille devices. So, am trying to hold off till those bugs are fixed. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Lange Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 9:50 AM To: vi-phone list Subject: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3 Hi, I’m using a Braille Sense U2 with an iphone 8 running IOS 13.1.3 and I’m really disgusted with how this combination is working, particularly when it comes to doing any kind of lengthy text editing. Cursor routing becomes erratic. Voiceover can slow down and crash. It’s just awful. I could go into detail, but VO will probably give me trouble while I do so. Anybody else out there having trouble with Braille displays in IOs 13? Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/30B28196-0288-4FF4-921F-E6AE1418AF05%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/064801d588fd%243aafc980%24b00f5c80%24%40earthlink.net.
Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3
The hotkey to go to the status bar is broken for all keyboards, QWERTY and Braille. Write Apple Accessibility. The more they get reports, the sooner it will get fixed. Fingers Crossed. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Oct 22, 2019, at 8:47 AM, Duane Steele wrote: Tom, I'm using the BrailleEdge 40 from Hims, and also having some issues since my phone decided to update this morning. For example, holding down the space-bar plus the braille letter s used to take me directly to the status bar where I could check immediately how much charge I had left. Now, nothing happens when I press that key combination. Since I'm still figuring out the update, I'm bound to have more questions. I'm not happy about this either. Peace & Blessings, Duane L. Steele Phone (276) 730-5194 On Oct 22, 2019, at 9:49 AM, Tom Lange wrote: Hi, I’m using a Braille Sense U2 with an iphone 8 running IOS 13.1.3 and I’m really disgusted with how this combination is working, particularly when it comes to doing any kind of lengthy text editing. Cursor routing becomes erratic. Voiceover can slow down and crash. It’s just awful. I could go into detail, but VO will probably give me trouble while I do so. Anybody else out there having trouble with Braille displays in IOs 13? Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ce891db950bf0485da78608d757072935%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637073560568096820sdata=CrfvLoMbmZahA0dtoNUsDlEbUQIbrOX3HTHCIhHMxpc%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F30B28196-0288-4FF4-921F-E6AE1418AF05%2540gmail.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ce891db950bf0485da78608d757072935%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637073560568096820sdata=USezelQm99Qhw4rJJbS1hWTfDhrwruAIMM1ccVmfxBU%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ce891db950bf0485da78608d757072935%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637073560568096820sdata=CrfvLoMbmZahA0dtoNUsDlEbUQIbrOX3HTHCIhHMxpc%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F45749B89-CAF6-426F-B963-188757F1191E%2540gmail.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ce891db950bf0485da78608d757072935%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637073560568096820sdata=PdmhvSL0AyXnfW2qPSPdEDusTRk0zAiA517Y53hPj68%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3
> Tom, I'm using the BrailleEdge 40 from Hims, and also having some issues > since my phone decided to update this morning. For example, holding down the > space-bar plus the braille letter s used to take me directly to the status > bar where I could check immediately how much charge I had left. Now, nothing > happens when I press that key combination. Since I'm still figuring out the > update, I'm bound to have more questions. I'm not happy about this either. > > Peace & Blessings, > Duane L. Steele > Phone (276) 730-5194 > > On Oct 22, 2019, at 9:49 AM, Tom Lange wrote: > > Hi, > I’m using a Braille Sense U2 with an iphone 8 running IOS 13.1.3 and I’m > really disgusted with how this combination is working, particularly when it > comes to doing any kind of lengthy text editing. Cursor routing becomes > erratic. Voiceover can slow down and crash. It’s just awful. I could go into > detail, but VO will probably give me trouble while I do so. Anybody else out > there having trouble with Braille displays in IOs 13? > Tom > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/30B28196-0288-4FF4-921F-E6AE1418AF05%40gmail.com. > > > > > > > > > > > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/45749B89-CAF6-426F-B963-188757F1191E%40gmail.com.
Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3
Hi Tom, I am having trouble as well. I can tell you that this trouble has been the same since betas started, and nothing has seemed to change. I’m really frustrated about it, and have reported it several times. Aleeha > On Oct 22, 2019, at 8:49 AM, Tom Lange wrote: > > Hi, > I’m using a Braille Sense U2 with an iphone 8 running IOS 13.1.3 and I’m > really disgusted with how this combination is working, particularly when it > comes to doing any kind of lengthy text editing. Cursor routing becomes > erratic. Voiceover can slow down and crash. It’s just awful. I could go into > detail, but VO will probably give me trouble while I do so. Anybody else out > there having trouble with Braille displays in IOs 13? > Tom > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/30B28196-0288-4FF4-921F-E6AE1418AF05%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/F21B4FAE-CF80-42A1-8BD8-078D6CB425E9%40gmail.com.
