Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Ed Worrell]

Hello All,

I have used both the Dexcom G5/G6 and the Libre Link sensors. I liked certain 
features of both devices.

First the Dexcom system: The Dexcom system is the best sensor or CGM on the 
market here in the US. That is  a plus and a minus as it works the best and has 
the best application on iOS and Android, the down fall is it’s a very expensive 
system and some insurance companies will not cover it. I at times with the 
Dexcom get a overloaded with the notifications it spits at you all day long. I 
know they are there to help but sometimes the notifications are  a bit much. 
This is where the Libre system is a little nicer. The Dexcom application is 
fully accessible and easy to navigate and use. The only down fall is that the 
blood sugar graph is not accessible to Voiceover users. You can however 
download the Dexcom Clarity application to accessibly view your blood sugar 
trends and also see your insulin intake averages assuming you enter them using 
either the InPen insulin system or use the events section of the Dexcom 
application. You can even set your DR up with a option to view all of your data 
from your records.

Libre system: This system is great because of the affordability. It’s much 
cheaper then the Dexcom with a few trade offs. It will not send you 
notifications to alert you of high or low blood sugars, rapidly raising or 
dropping blood sugars, etc. You will have to scan the sensor with an iPhone 
that is at least an iPhone 7 or newer. The application is usable with VoiceOver 
but there are a lot of unlabeled buttons and mislabeled buttons. To get 
VoiceOver to announce the trend arrow (direction blood sugar is going, slowly 
falling, slowly raising, falling quickly, raising quickly, etc you will have to 
turn on the TTS function in settings of the app).As stated in a previous email 
in the thread you can get a transmitter that will allow you to utilize a 3rd 
party application that will scan the sensor every 5 minutes and send it to your 
phone. There are 2 different options and they are both limited in accuracy and 
you will have to calibrate the system multiple times through out the day.

Ultimately the choice is up to you and what your comfort level is with pricing 
and what your Dr recommends.

They both can be used by visually impaired diabetics and will work in the long 
run.

Ed W.  

> On Feb 4, 2020, at 6:27 AM, Joney  wrote:
> 
> Are use the Librelink and I have no problems with it at all. Dicks come does 
> have an extra transmitter, but everything is built in to the sensor on the 
> other. I do miss the ability to sync the numbers, as sometimes it can be many 
> points off. I tested, when I first put it in. After the hour layover. When 
> it’s ready, I get its number, and a blood test number. And I can pretty will 
> tell where it’s going to be the whole 14 days I have it. I don’t like having 
> to have the extra transmitter For the next game. Sometimes tests come about 
> in the oddest places. :-) But, from what I can tell, from what my 
> diabetologist says, it’s a matter of preference. So, which ever one works on 
> your phone, or you’re comfortable with, it’s what you should use. The 
> Librelink does not have alarms within the sensor. Perhaps they will add them 
> at some point. Just my opinions
> 
> Joney
> talk2o...@gmail.com
> "If God can bring you to it, 
> He will lead you through it."  
> 
>> On Feb 4, 2020, at 4:31 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> It’s a blue tooth transmitter that helps send the signal from the Dexcom to 
>> the phone
>> No the free style libre doesn’t have them built in but you can purchase a 
>> third party option.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
>> Malmquist
>> Sent: Tuesday, 4 February 2020 8:05 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?
>>  
>> I understand the disposable sensors, but what is the disposable transmitter 
>> for?  Sounds like one more piece of equipment that you have to keep track of 
>> that the Libre doesn't have.  If you could explain what this transmitter 
>> does, it would sure help.  Thanks for your in-depth answer and explanation.  
>> It cleared a lot of things up for me.
>>  
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>  
>> No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, 
>> you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
>> Rhonda Byrne
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Keith Bierman
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2020 10:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?
>>  
>> Dexcom doesn't use NFC; so I don't know why it wouldn't work with iphone's 
>> pre-7.
>>  
>> Operation

Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Joney]

Are use the Librelink and I have no problems with it at all. Dicks come does 
have an extra transmitter, but everything is built in to the sensor on the 
other. I do miss the ability to sync the numbers, as sometimes it can be many 
points off. I tested, when I first put it in. After the hour layover. When it’s 
ready, I get its number, and a blood test number. And I can pretty will tell 
where it’s going to be the whole 14 days I have it. I don’t like having to have 
the extra transmitter For the next game. Sometimes tests come about in the 
oddest places. :-) But, from what I can tell, from what my diabetologist says, 
it’s a matter of preference. So, which ever one works on your phone, or you’re 
comfortable with, it’s what you should use. The Librelink does not have alarms 
within the sensor. Perhaps they will add them at some point. Just my opinions

Joney
talk2o...@gmail.com
"If God can bring you to it, 
He will lead you through it."  

> On Feb 4, 2020, at 4:31 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> It’s a blue tooth transmitter that helps send the signal from the Dexcom to 
> the phone
> No the free style libre doesn’t have them built in but you can purchase a 
> third party option.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
> Malmquist
> Sent: Tuesday, 4 February 2020 8:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?
>  
> I understand the disposable sensors, but what is the disposable transmitter 
> for?  Sounds like one more piece of equipment that you have to keep track of 
> that the Libre doesn't have.  If you could explain what this transmitter 
> does, it would sure help.  Thanks for your in-depth answer and explanation.  
> It cleared a lot of things up for me.
>  
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>  
> No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, 
> you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
> Rhonda Byrne
> - Original Message -
> From: Keith Bierman
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2020 10:52 AM
> Subject: Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?
>  
> Dexcom doesn't use NFC; so I don't know why it wouldn't work with iphone's 
> pre-7.
>  
> Operational cost of the dexcom is higher, there's the disposable 
> sensors(similar to libre) + a transmitter (which is also disposable, but is 
> good for 3 months if memory serves). I much preferred the Dexcom, but as I'm 
> paying out of pocket I switched to the Libre (and was grey market importing 
> the "pro" version from India). I've just started using the miaomiao2, it is 
> consistently reading lower than the Libre app (ranging from 10 to 20 points); 
> but is more consistent with fingerstick. The miaomiao app (tomato) may be 
> somewhat accessible (but color me slightly dubious; it seems a bit 
> unpolished. I haven't tried spike.app (which seems more polished; but one has 
> to jump over some hoops on a weekly or yearly basis to authenticate.
>  
> The Dexcom allows for calibration to match your fingerstick device of choice, 
> the Libre doesn't. So, if covered by your insurance, I'd go with the Dexcom. 
>  
> As for alarms, Dexcom communicates by bluetooth and is in continuous (well, 
> every 5 min or so) which is why alarms are built into the app.
>  
> Libre uses NFC, so if you use their app (or reader) alarms aren't really 
> practical. If you add the miaomiao, there is the same sort of bluetooth 
> polling going on (as with the dexcom) so apps such as Tomato and spike can 
> provide alarms.
>  
> The miaomiao is a one time purchase, and is rechargeable (although, over time 
> the battery will wear out and isn't replaceable).
>  
>  
>  
>  
> On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 9:14 AM Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> According to one of my clients, the Dexcom is accessible.
> Both types need at least an iPhone 7 because they use the NFC chip that was 
> introduced starting with the 7.
> Their apps make it so a blind person doesn’t need their expensive stand-alone 
> device to scan the patch.
> I think the Freestyle ones last longer but if the app doesn’t have an alarm, 
> I can see why the doctor is leaning toward the Dexcom.
> Though, you may want to double check the specifications for each one to make 
> sure that feature hasn’t been added.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
>  Live long and prosper
>  
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
> Malmquist
> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 4:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?
>  
> Hi all,
> Yes, this is very much iPhone related.  I have a question about two glucose 
> readers.  One is the Free

RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Simon A Fogarty]

It’s a blue tooth transmitter that helps send the signal from the Dexcom to the 
phone
No the free style libre doesn’t have them built in but you can purchase a third 
party option.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Tuesday, 4 February 2020 8:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

I understand the disposable sensors, but what is the disposable transmitter 
for?  Sounds like one more piece of equipment that you have to keep track of 
that the Libre doesn't have.  If you could explain what this transmitter does, 
it would sure help.  Thanks for your in-depth answer and explanation.  It 
cleared a lot of things up for me.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you 
are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne
- Original Message -
From: Keith Bierman<mailto:khb...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2020 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

Dexcom doesn't use NFC; so I don't know why it wouldn't work with iphone's 
pre-7.

Operational cost of the dexcom is higher, there's the disposable 
sensors(similar to libre) + a transmitter (which is also disposable, but is 
good for 3 months if memory serves). I much preferred the Dexcom, but as I'm 
paying out of pocket I switched to the Libre (and was grey market importing the 
"pro" version from India). I've just started using the miaomiao2, it is 
consistently reading lower than the Libre app (ranging from 10 to 20 points); 
but is more consistent with fingerstick. The miaomiao app (tomato) may be 
somewhat accessible (but color me slightly dubious; it seems a bit unpolished. 
I haven't tried spike.app (which seems more polished; but one has to jump over 
some hoops on a weekly or yearly basis to authenticate.

The Dexcom allows for calibration to match your fingerstick device of choice, 
the Libre doesn't. So, if covered by your insurance, I'd go with the Dexcom.

As for alarms, Dexcom communicates by bluetooth and is in continuous (well, 
every 5 min or so) which is why alarms are built into the app.

Libre uses NFC, so if you use their app (or reader) alarms aren't really 
practical. If you add the miaomiao, there is the same sort of bluetooth polling 
going on (as with the dexcom) so apps such as Tomato and spike can provide 
alarms.

The miaomiao is a one time purchase, and is rechargeable (although, over time 
the battery will wear out and isn't replaceable).




On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 9:14 AM Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
According to one of my clients, the Dexcom is accessible.
Both types need at least an iPhone 7 because they use the NFC chip that was 
introduced starting with the 7.
Their apps make it so a blind person doesn’t need their expensive stand-alone 
device to scan the patch.
I think the Freestyle ones last longer but if the app doesn’t have an alarm, I 
can see why the doctor is leaning toward the Dexcom.
Though, you may want to double check the specifications for each one to make 
sure that feature hasn’t been added.



Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 4:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

Hi all,
Yes, this is very much iPhone related.  I have a question about two glucose 
readers.  One is the Freestyle Libre and the other is the Dexcom.  I know that 
the Libre app is accessible but I don't know anything about the Dexcom.  My 
doctor wants me to get the Dexcom because it has alarms and the Libre does not. 
 The downside of it is that you have to enter in codes every so often.  To me, 
if it is accessible that doesn't really matter because there is always Aira or 
some way to work that out.  I also noticed that the Libre link app does not 
work on the 6 S.  Anyone know why?  Or do you have a customer service number?  
Does anyone have any answers or where I can go to find out more?  Thanks in 
advance.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you 
are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne
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RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Sorry Richard,

The libre has the need for the nfc chip which the Dexcom doesn’t
Dexcom I believe uses Bluetooth.

However the libre has the ability now to utilise a third party product called 
the miao miao which is a Bluetooth dongle that sits on top of the libre 
freestyle sensor.

This then links to the phone an reads every 5 seconds  passing that on to the 
phone and the libre software.

When I looked at the miao miao  third quarter of 2019  you needed to have a 
developers account for itunes to be able to get the software the miao miao uses 
to stay active longer than 7 days. Or jail break the phone for the app to work 
longer than the 7 days,

Note this was approx. 5 months ago, so may well now have been changed so it 
continues to work on.

I ope that makes better sense.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, 4 February 2020 5:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

I think people are making this topic more confusing than it needs to be by not 
being clear.
The Dexcom 6 works all the way down to the 5s.
I am pretty sure the comments about not working without some jail breaking was 
concerning the Bluetooth dongle for the Freestyle system if someone wanted to 
use it with an older iPhone.
But, they were not clear since the subject line has both names.
Everything I've read about the Dexcom and heard from a couple people I know, is 
that it is more accessible.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner



On Feb 3, 2020, at 8:53 AM, Keith Bierman 
mailto:khb...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Dexcom doesn't use NFC; so I don't know why it wouldn't work with iphone's 
pre-7.

Operational cost of the dexcom is higher, there's the disposable 
sensors(similar to libre) + a transmitter (which is also disposable, but is 
good for 3 months if memory serves). I much preferred the Dexcom, but as I'm 
paying out of pocket I switched to the Libre (and was grey market importing the 
"pro" version from India). I've just started using the miaomiao2, it is 
consistently reading lower than the Libre app (ranging from 10 to 20 points); 
but is more consistent with fingerstick. The miaomiao app (tomato) may be 
somewhat accessible (but color me slightly dubious; it seems a bit unpolished. 
I haven't tried spike.app (which seems more polished; but one has to jump over 
some hoops on a weekly or yearly basis to authenticate.

The Dexcom allows for calibration to match your fingerstick device of choice, 
the Libre doesn't. So, if covered by your insurance, I'd go with the Dexcom.

As for alarms, Dexcom communicates by bluetooth and is in continuous (well, 
every 5 min or so) which is why alarms are built into the app.

Libre uses NFC, so if you use their app (or reader) alarms aren't really 
practical. If you add the miaomiao, there is the same sort of bluetooth polling 
going on (as with the dexcom) so apps such as Tomato and spike can provide 
alarms.

The miaomiao is a one time purchase, and is rechargeable (although, over time 
the battery will wear out and isn't replaceable).




On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 9:14 AM Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
According to one of my clients, the Dexcom is accessible.
Both types need at least an iPhone 7 because they use the NFC chip that was 
introduced starting with the 7.
Their apps make it so a blind person doesn’t need their expensive stand-alone 
device to scan the patch.
I think the Freestyle ones last longer but if the app doesn’t have an alarm, I 
can see why the doctor is leaning toward the Dexcom.
Though, you may want to double check the specifications for each one to make 
sure that feature hasn’t been added.



Richard

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 4:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

Hi all,
Yes, this is very much iPhone related.  I have a question about two glucose 
readers.  One is the Freestyle Libre and the other is the Dexcom.  I know that 
the Libre app is accessible but I don't know anything about the Dexcom.  My 
doctor wants me to get the Dexcom because it has alarms and the Libre does not. 
 The downside of it is that you have to enter in codes every so often.  To me, 
if it is accessible that doesn't really matter because there is always Aira or 
some way to work that out.  I also n

RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Which is why her pone had no issue with the app installing.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Keith 
Bierman
Sent: Tuesday, 4 February 2020 5:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

Dexcom doesn't use NFC; so I don't know why it wouldn't work with iphone's 
pre-7.

Operational cost of the dexcom is higher, there's the disposable 
sensors(similar to libre) + a transmitter (which is also disposable, but is 
good for 3 months if memory serves). I much preferred the Dexcom, but as I'm 
paying out of pocket I switched to the Libre (and was grey market importing the 
"pro" version from India). I've just started using the miaomiao2, it is 
consistently reading lower than the Libre app (ranging from 10 to 20 points); 
but is more consistent with fingerstick. The miaomiao app (tomato) may be 
somewhat accessible (but color me slightly dubious; it seems a bit unpolished. 
I haven't tried spike.app (which seems more polished; but one has to jump over 
some hoops on a weekly or yearly basis to authenticate.

The Dexcom allows for calibration to match your fingerstick device of choice, 
the Libre doesn't. So, if covered by your insurance, I'd go with the Dexcom.

As for alarms, Dexcom communicates by bluetooth and is in continuous (well, 
every 5 min or so) which is why alarms are built into the app.

Libre uses NFC, so if you use their app (or reader) alarms aren't really 
practical. If you add the miaomiao, there is the same sort of bluetooth polling 
going on (as with the dexcom) so apps such as Tomato and spike can provide 
alarms.

The miaomiao is a one time purchase, and is rechargeable (although, over time 
the battery will wear out and isn't replaceable).




On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 9:14 AM Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
According to one of my clients, the Dexcom is accessible.
Both types need at least an iPhone 7 because they use the NFC chip that was 
introduced starting with the 7.
Their apps make it so a blind person doesn’t need their expensive stand-alone 
device to scan the patch.
I think the Freestyle ones last longer but if the app doesn’t have an alarm, I 
can see why the doctor is leaning toward the Dexcom.
Though, you may want to double check the specifications for each one to make 
sure that feature hasn’t been added.



Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 4:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

Hi all,
Yes, this is very much iPhone related.  I have a question about two glucose 
readers.  One is the Freestyle Libre and the other is the Dexcom.  I know that 
the Libre app is accessible but I don't know anything about the Dexcom.  My 
doctor wants me to get the Dexcom because it has alarms and the Libre does not. 
 The downside of it is that you have to enter in codes every so often.  To me, 
if it is accessible that doesn't really matter because there is always Aira or 
some way to work that out.  I also noticed that the Libre link app does not 
work on the 6 S.  Anyone know why?  Or do you have a customer service number?  
Does anyone have any answers or where I can go to find out more?  Thanks in 
advance.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

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Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Keith Bierman]

 Richard said : I think people are making this topic more confusing than it
needs to be by not being clear.
Yes, sorry for my part in that.

On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 12:01 PM Kay Malmquist 
wrote:

> I understand the disposable sensors, but what is the disposable
> transmitter for?
>

Conceptually, there's two major elements to any continuous glucose metering
solution (CGM):

   1. Sensor (all of the current systems use a small wire that is embedded
   into your skin, reading the interstitial  fluid).
  1. These are disposable.
  2. These have some local memory.
  3. These have some sort of power source (but since disposable, not
  user interesting)
  4. These cannot be reinserted
   2. Reader : get information from the sensor
  1. For FDA certification purposes, these were developed first; may be
  "mandatory" to write an RX for
  2. These may communicate directly with the sensor, or via an
  intermediary.
 1. Dexcom chose to make the communication to the sensor via
 Bluetooth. This is well integrated with the sensor, so it's
not so obvious
 that you've got some other channel to the sensor. By using bluetooth,
 phones and other medical devices can communicate directly and
across a fair
 distance. It also provides for true continuous monitoring
(although what's
 implemented is discrete ... 1 measurement every few minutes
... which is
 more than adequate for treatment purposes, even automated insulin
 delivery systems)
 2. Freestyle uses NFC, which means data is only transferred in
 batches, at user initiated intervals
1. The "pro" version only stores 1 reading for every 15m or so;
but stores a full 2 weeks of data. These aren't supposed
to be sold to
individuals, but to clinics and require a special reader
(the iphone app
refuses to talk to the pro version of the sensors)


Where it gets a bit messy is in the 2.1 vs 2.2 area. There are a couple of
vendors of "dongles" which speak NFC on one side (to the sensor) and
bluetooth to your phone (or whatever). The dexcom system *includes such a
device* but it's not so obvious that's what is does (and it may not use
NFC, whatever the communication between sensor and transmitter is
proprietary to dexcom). As to why they made it disposable ... other than
profit, I have no doubt it made the FDA certification easier. Nothing
exposed, nothing the user can screw up. Nothing that degrades over the
expected lifetime of the device. On the plus side, it makes the dexcom
easier to interface with and use (since it's well integrated it
mechanically stays in place well, etc.).

The Libre, lacking that extra bit ... is less expensive to operate, but
it's not suitable for folks who need:

   1. real time alarms
   2. integration with insulin pumps or other delivery systems


However, third parties stepped up, reverse engineered the NFC interface and
provide a *reusable* transmitter that closes the gap between the dexcom and
Libre systems. However, since it's not provided by Abbot, the quality of
the integration is mixed (better if you want to hack on the code and
customize, less good if you want an out of the box solution).

I'm surprised that Abbot didn't step up and provide a certified factory
solution (but the FDA approval process is slow, painful and expensive. So
perhaps they are still in process; perhaps it's a next generation thing. I
have no inside information).

Since the dexcom solution is all provided by the factory (and they do
quality work) I believe it is both more accessible, and easier to use.

Since the Libre+third party solution has at least one extra party, there's
both ease of use and accessibility challenges. The cost savings may make it
worthwhile. Or, if you really only need the in-depth, detailed
*retrospective* statistics, the Libre solution (minus the extra
transmitter) may suit your needs well (e.g. a non-insulin dependent
individual who "just" needs to continue tweaking their diet ... or
medication regimen and not make minute by minute treatment adjustments).
Indeed, the "pro" version which your clinic reads the results after 2 weeks
may be ideal (I used it for my diabetic cat for a few weeks).

Personally, I fall in the middle. I don't need alerts; but I do need enough
feedback to make optimal food choices. The bluetooth transmitter isn't
vital, but it does provide better data resolution ... but it is a bit of a
PITA (perhaps after a few months I'll have worked out the kinks for my
personal use cases). I'd have rather stayed with Dexcom, but the cost
savings was substantial ... because my insurance won't cover a CGM (I'm not
sick enough) ... which is kinda backwards, in that it will help delay
getting that sick.  Oh well, re-engineering our healthcare system is
something we've outsourced to lawyer/politicians.

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Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
The transmitter is what sends the reading to the phone. From what I understand 
the sensor sits inside the transmitter. It is a bluetooth transmitter. 

Greg Wocher


> On Feb 3, 2020, at 2:04 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> 
> I understand the disposable sensors, but what is the disposable transmitter 
> for?  Sounds like one more piece of equipment that you have to keep track of 
> that the Libre doesn't have.  If you could explain what this transmitter 
> does, it would sure help.  Thanks for your in-depth answer and explanation.  
> It cleared a lot of things up for me.
>  
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>
>  
> No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, 
> you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
> Rhonda Byrne
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Keith Bierman <mailto:khb...@gmail.com>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2020 10:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?
>> 
>> Dexcom doesn't use NFC; so I don't know why it wouldn't work with iphone's 
>> pre-7.
>> 
>> Operational cost of the dexcom is higher, there's the disposable 
>> sensors(similar to libre) + a transmitter (which is also disposable, but is 
>> good for 3 months if memory serves). I much preferred the Dexcom, but as I'm 
>> paying out of pocket I switched to the Libre (and was grey market importing 
>> the "pro" version from India). I've just started using the miaomiao2, it is 
>> consistently reading lower than the Libre app (ranging from 10 to 20 
>> points); but is more consistent with fingerstick. The miaomiao app (tomato) 
>> may be somewhat accessible (but color me slightly dubious; it seems a bit 
>> unpolished. I haven't tried spike.app (which seems more polished; but one 
>> has to jump over some hoops on a weekly or yearly basis to authenticate.
>> 
>> The Dexcom allows for calibration to match your fingerstick device of 
>> choice, the Libre doesn't. So, if covered by your insurance, I'd go with the 
>> Dexcom. 
>> 
>> As for alarms, Dexcom communicates by bluetooth and is in continuous (well, 
>> every 5 min or so) which is why alarms are built into the app.
>> 
>> Libre uses NFC, so if you use their app (or reader) alarms aren't really 
>> practical. If you add the miaomiao, there is the same sort of bluetooth 
>> polling going on (as with the dexcom) so apps such as Tomato and spike can 
>> provide alarms.
>> 
>> The miaomiao is a one time purchase, and is rechargeable (although, over 
>> time the battery will wear out and isn't replaceable).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 9:14 AM Richard Turner > <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>> According to one of my clients, the Dexcom is accessible.
>>> Both types need at least an iPhone 7 because they use the NFC chip that was 
>>> introduced starting with the 7.
>>> Their apps make it so a blind person doesn’t need their expensive 
>>> stand-alone device to scan the patch.
>>> I think the Freestyle ones last longer but if the app doesn’t have an 
>>> alarm, I can see why the doctor is leaning toward the Dexcom.
>>> Though, you may want to double check the specifications for each one to 
>>> make sure that feature hasn’t been added.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Richard
>>>  
>>>  Live long and prosper
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com/>
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 4:35 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?
>>>  
>>> Hi all,
>>> Yes, this is very much iPhone related.  I have a question about two glucose 
>>> readers.  One is the Freestyle Libre and the other is the Dexcom.  I know 
>>> that the Libre app is accessible but I don't know anything about the 
>>> Dexcom.  My doctor wants me to get the Dexcom because it has alarms and the 
>>> Libre does not.  The downside of it is that you have to enter in codes 
>>> every so often.  To me, if it is accessible that doesn't really matter 
>>> because there is always Aira or some way to work that out.  I also noticed 
>>> that the L

Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Kay Malmquist]

I understand the disposable sensors, but what is the disposable transmitter 
for?  Sounds like one more piece of equipment that you have to keep track of 
that the Libre doesn't have.  If you could explain what this transmitter 
does, it would sure help.  Thanks for your in-depth answer and explanation. 
It cleared a lot of things up for me.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, 
you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne

  - Original Message - 
  From: Keith Bierman
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, February 03, 2020 10:52 AM
  Subject: Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?


  Dexcom doesn't use NFC; so I don't know why it wouldn't work with iphone's 
pre-7.


  Operational cost of the dexcom is higher, there's the disposable 
sensors(similar to libre) + a transmitter (which is also disposable, but is 
good for 3 months if memory serves). I much preferred the Dexcom, but as I'm 
paying out of pocket I switched to the Libre (and was grey market importing 
the "pro" version from India). I've just started using the miaomiao2, it is 
consistently reading lower than the Libre app (ranging from 10 to 20 
points); but is more consistent with fingerstick. The miaomiao app (tomato) 
may be somewhat accessible (but color me slightly dubious; it seems a bit 
unpolished. I haven't tried spike.app (which seems more polished; but one 
has to jump over some hoops on a weekly or yearly basis to authenticate.


  The Dexcom allows for calibration to match your fingerstick device of 
choice, the Libre doesn't. So, if covered by your insurance, I'd go with the 
Dexcom.


  As for alarms, Dexcom communicates by bluetooth and is in continuous 
(well, every 5 min or so) which is why alarms are built into the app.


  Libre uses NFC, so if you use their app (or reader) alarms aren't really 
practical. If you add the miaomiao, there is the same sort of bluetooth 
polling going on (as with the dexcom) so apps such as Tomato and spike can 
provide alarms.


  The miaomiao is a one time purchase, and is rechargeable (although, over 
time the battery will wear out and isn't replaceable).








  On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 9:14 AM Richard Turner 
 wrote:

According to one of my clients, the Dexcom is accessible.

Both types need at least an iPhone 7 because they use the NFC chip that 
was introduced starting with the 7.

Their apps make it so a blind person doesn’t need their expensive 
stand-alone device to scan the patch.

I think the Freestyle ones last longer but if the app doesn’t have an 
alarm, I can see why the doctor is leaning toward the Dexcom.

Though, you may want to double check the specifications for each one to 
make sure that feature hasn’t been added.







Richard



 Live long and prosper





Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 4:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?



Hi all,

Yes, this is very much iPhone related.  I have a question about two 
glucose readers.  One is the Freestyle Libre and the other is the Dexcom.  I 
know that the Libre app is accessible but I don't know anything about the 
Dexcom.  My doctor wants me to get the Dexcom because it has alarms and the 
Libre does not.  The downside of it is that you have to enter in codes every 
so often.  To me, if it is accessible that doesn't really matter because 
there is always Aira or some way to work that out.  I also noticed that the 
Libre link app does not work on the 6 S.  Anyone know why?  Or do you have a 
customer service number?  Does anyone have any answers or where I can go to 
find out more?  Thanks in advance.



Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



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Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Richard Turner]

I think people are making this topic more confusing than it needs to be by not 
being clear.
The Dexcom 6 works all the way down to the 5s.
I am pretty sure the comments about not working without some jail breaking was 
concerning the Bluetooth dongle for the Freestyle system if someone wanted to 
use it with an older iPhone.
But, they were not clear since the subject line has both names.
Everything I've read about the Dexcom and heard from a couple people I know, is 
that it is more accessible.




Richard
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On Feb 3, 2020, at 8:53 AM, Keith Bierman  wrote:


Dexcom doesn't use NFC; so I don't know why it wouldn't work with iphone's 
pre-7.

Operational cost of the dexcom is higher, there's the disposable 
sensors(similar to libre) + a transmitter (which is also disposable, but is 
good for 3 months if memory serves). I much preferred the Dexcom, but as I'm 
paying out of pocket I switched to the Libre (and was grey market importing the 
"pro" version from India). I've just started using the miaomiao2, it is 
consistently reading lower than the Libre app (ranging from 10 to 20 points); 
but is more consistent with fingerstick. The miaomiao app (tomato) may be 
somewhat accessible (but color me slightly dubious; it seems a bit unpolished. 
I haven't tried spike.app (which seems more polished; but one has to jump over 
some hoops on a weekly or yearly basis to authenticate.

The Dexcom allows for calibration to match your fingerstick device of choice, 
the Libre doesn't. So, if covered by your insurance, I'd go with the Dexcom.

As for alarms, Dexcom communicates by bluetooth and is in continuous (well, 
every 5 min or so) which is why alarms are built into the app.

Libre uses NFC, so if you use their app (or reader) alarms aren't really 
practical. If you add the miaomiao, there is the same sort of bluetooth polling 
going on (as with the dexcom) so apps such as Tomato and spike can provide 
alarms.

The miaomiao is a one time purchase, and is rechargeable (although, over time 
the battery will wear out and isn't replaceable).




On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 9:14 AM Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
According to one of my clients, the Dexcom is accessible.
Both types need at least an iPhone 7 because they use the NFC chip that was 
introduced starting with the 7.
Their apps make it so a blind person doesn’t need their expensive stand-alone 
device to scan the patch.
I think the Freestyle ones last longer but if the app doesn’t have an alarm, I 
can see why the doctor is leaning toward the Dexcom.
Though, you may want to double check the specifications for each one to make 
sure that feature hasn’t been added.



Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 4:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

Hi all,
Yes, this is very much iPhone related.  I have a question about two glucose 
readers.  One is the Freestyle Libre and the other is the Dexcom.  I know that 
the Libre app is accessible but I don't know anything about the Dexcom.  My 
doctor wants me to get the Dexcom because it has alarms and the Libre does not. 
 The downside of it is that you have to enter in codes every so often.  To me, 
if it is accessible that doesn't really matter because there is always Aira or 
some way to work that out.  I also noticed that the Libre link app does not 
work on the 6 S.  Anyone know why?  Or do you have a customer service number?  
Does anyone have any answers or where I can go to find out more?  Thanks in 
advance.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Keith Bierman]

Dexcom doesn't use NFC; so I don't know why it wouldn't work with iphone's
pre-7.

Operational cost of the dexcom is higher, there's the disposable
sensors(similar to libre) + a transmitter (which is also disposable, but is
good for 3 months if memory serves). I much preferred the Dexcom, but as
I'm paying out of pocket I switched to the Libre (and was grey market
importing the "pro" version from India). I've just started using the
miaomiao2, it is consistently reading lower than the Libre app (ranging
from 10 to 20 points); but is more consistent with fingerstick. The
miaomiao app (tomato) may be somewhat accessible (but color me slightly
dubious; it seems a bit unpolished. I haven't tried spike.app (which seems
more polished; but one has to jump over some hoops on a weekly or yearly
basis to authenticate.

The Dexcom allows for calibration to match your fingerstick device of
choice, the Libre doesn't. So, if covered by your insurance, I'd go with
the Dexcom.

As for alarms, Dexcom communicates by bluetooth and is in continuous (well,
every 5 min or so) which is why alarms are built into the app.

Libre uses NFC, so if you use their app (or reader) alarms aren't really
practical. If you add the miaomiao, there is the same sort of bluetooth
polling going on (as with the dexcom) so apps such as Tomato and spike can
provide alarms.

The miaomiao is a one time purchase, and is rechargeable (although, over
time the battery will wear out and isn't replaceable).




On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 9:14 AM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> According to one of my clients, the Dexcom is accessible.
>
> Both types need at least an iPhone 7 because they use the NFC chip that
> was introduced starting with the 7.
>
> Their apps make it so a blind person doesn’t need their expensive
> stand-alone device to scan the patch.
>
> I think the Freestyle ones last longer but if the app doesn’t have an
> alarm, I can see why the doctor is leaning toward the Dexcom.
>
> Though, you may want to double check the specifications for each one to
> make sure that feature hasn’t been added.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>  Live long and prosper
>
>
>
>
>
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Kay Malmquist
> *Sent:* Friday, January 31, 2020 4:35 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Yes, this is very much iPhone related.  I have a question about two
> glucose readers.  One is the Freestyle Libre and the other is the Dexcom.
> I know that the Libre app is accessible but I don't know anything about the
> Dexcom.  My doctor wants me to get the Dexcom because it has alarms and the
> Libre does not.  The downside of it is that you have to enter in codes
> every so often.  To me, if it is accessible that doesn't really matter
> because there is always Aira or some way to work that out.  I also noticed
> that the Libre link app does not work on the 6 S.  Anyone know why?  Or do
> you have a customer service number?  Does anyone have any answers or where
> I can go to find out more?  Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to
> be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
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RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Not really anymore,

Do a search in google for it,

I gave up on the idea of using it as you had to somewhat jail break your phone 
to get it working.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ari 
Moisio
Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2020 11:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

Hello

In Finland the Libre sensors also last two weeks.

I'll be interested about that bt dongle, do you  have any furhther information 
about it?



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  Simon A Fogarty kirjoitti
> Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?
> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2020 11:45:53
> From: Simon A Fogarty 
> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
> 
> 
> Yeah in the US the libre last 10 days,
> 
>  
> 
> Here in Nz and in the UK and I believe everywhere else
> 
> The free style libre last 14 days.
> 
>  
> 
> Yes the NFC chip is what the sensors and the phone use to communicate however 
> there is a device available for each of the
> products that allows them to talk using blutetooth to your phone.
> 
>  
> 
> The Dexcom is I believe their own product
> 
> The freestyle uses a third party product called the miaomiao
> 
> I believe this is Chinese but that?s only a guess.
> 
>  
> 
> With this product currently or still I believe you have to either jailbreak 
> your phone or set the software up as an apple
> ddeveloper.
> 
>  
> 
> this may have changed in the passed couple of months but it was like this 
> when I started using the freestyle 6 months ago.
> 
>  
> 
> The bt dongles for the devices do cost but they let your phone talk to your 
> sensors without having to worry about the
> manual  swiping
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2020 5:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?
> 
>  
> 
> According to one of my clients, the Dexcom is accessible.
> 
> Both types need at least an iPhone 7 because they use the NFC chip that was 
> introduced starting with the 7.
> 
> Their apps make it so a blind person doesn?t need their expensive stand-alone 
> device to scan the patch.
> 
> I think the Freestyle ones last longer but if the app doesn?t have an alarm, 
> I can see why the doctor is leaning toward the
> Dexcom.
> 
> Though, you may want to double check the specifications for each one to make 
> sure that feature hasn?t been added.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Richard
> 
>  
> 
> ? Live long and prosper
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
>  
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
> Malmquist
> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 4:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?
> 
>  
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Yes, this is very much iPhone related.  I have a question about two glucose 
> readers.  One is the Freestyle Libre and the
> other is the Dexcom.  I know that the Libre app is accessible but I don't 
> know anything about the Dexcom.  My doctor wants
> me to get the Dexcom because it has alarms and the Libre does not.  The 
> downside of it is that you have to enter in codes
> every so often.  To me, if it is accessible that doesn't really matter 
> because there is always Aira or some way to work that
> out.  I also noticed that the Libre link app does not work on the 6 S.  
> Anyone know why?  Or do you have a customer service
> number?  Does anyone have any answers or where I can go to find out more?  
> Thanks in advance.
> 
>  
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
> 
>  
> 
> No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, 
> you are always being moved toward magnificence.
> Always.
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RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Greg,

That's interesting 
The documentation I read said the USA only had 10 days,

 I wondered why that would be when everyone else is 14.
But thanks for that correction.

And yes the app could be somewhat better,

  I've tried sharing through another system but that didn't work for some 
reason either.

I wish they'd release the Libre 2 in to NZ,
It's got a Bluetooth adapter built in so it talkl to the phone from a distance.

I think it's out in the UK already.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Greg 
Wocher
Sent: Monday, 3 February 2020 12:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

Hello,
We also have the sensors that last 14 days in the United States. It is what I 
use. The app for the libra works fine to test your sugar. There are parts of 
the app that could be better. The part of the app where you can share your 
readings is not all that accessible.

Greg Wocher


> On Feb 2, 2020, at 5:02 AM, Ari Moisio  wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> In Finland the Libre sensors also last two weeks.
> 
> I'll be interested about that bt dongle, do you  have any furhther 
> information about it?
> 
> 
> 
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> hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net B784D020 fp:0C1F6A76 DC9DDD58 33838B5D 0E769600 
> B7840D02
> 
> 
> Simon A Fogarty kirjoitti
>> Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?
>> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2020 11:45:53
>> From: Simon A Fogarty 
>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  Yeah in the 
>> US the libre last 10 days,
>>  
>> Here in Nz and in the UK and I believe everywhere else The free style 
>> libre last 14 days.
>>  
>> Yes the NFC chip is what the sensors and the phone use to communicate 
>> however there is a device available for each of the products that allows 
>> them to talk using blutetooth to your phone.
>>  
>> The Dexcom is I believe their own product The freestyle uses a third 
>> party product called the miaomiao I believe this is Chinese but 
>> that?s only a guess.
>>  
>> With this product currently or still I believe you have to either 
>> jailbreak your phone or set the software up as an apple ddeveloper.
>>  
>> this may have changed in the passed couple of months but it was like this 
>> when I started using the freestyle 6 months ago.
>>  
>> The bt dongles for the devices do cost but they let your phone talk 
>> to your sensors without having to worry about the manual  swiping
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2020 5:15 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?
>>  
>> According to one of my clients, the Dexcom is accessible.
>> Both types need at least an iPhone 7 because they use the NFC chip that was 
>> introduced starting with the 7.
>> Their apps make it so a blind person doesn?t need their expensive 
>> stand-alone device to scan the patch.
>> I think the Freestyle ones last longer but if the app doesn?t have an 
>> alarm, I can see why the doctor is leaning toward the Dexcom.
>> Though, you may want to double check the specifications for each one to make 
>> sure that feature hasn?t been added.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>>  
>> ? Live long and prosper
>>  
>>  
>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Kay Malmquist
>> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 4:35 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?
>>  
>> Hi all,
>> Yes, this is very much iPhone related.  I have a question about two 
>> glucose readers.  One is the Freestyle Libre and the other is the 
>> Dexcom.  I know that the Libre app is accessible but I don't know 
>> anything about the Dexcom.  My doctor wants me to get the Dexcom 
>> because it has alarms and the Libre does not.  The downside of it is 
>> that you have to enter in codes every so often.  To me, if it is accessible 
>> that doesn't really matter because there is always Aira or some way to work 
>> that out.  I also noticed that the Libre link app does not work on the 6 S.  
>> Anyone know why?  Or do you have a customer service number?  Does anyone 
>> have any answers or where I can go to find out more?  Thanks in advance.
>>  
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>  
>> No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, 
>> you are always being moved toward magnificence.
>> Always.

Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
We also have the sensors that last 14 days in the United States. It is what I 
use. The app for the libra works fine to test your sugar. There are parts of 
the app that could be better. The part of the app where you can share your 
readings is not all that accessible.

Greg Wocher


> On Feb 2, 2020, at 5:02 AM, Ari Moisio  wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> In Finland the Libre sensors also last two weeks.
> 
> I'll be interested about that bt dongle, do you  have any furhther 
> information about it?
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> Simon A Fogarty kirjoitti
>> Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?
>> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2020 11:45:53
>> From: Simon A Fogarty 
>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
>> Yeah in the US the libre last 10 days,
>>  
>> Here in Nz and in the UK and I believe everywhere else
>> The free style libre last 14 days.
>>  
>> Yes the NFC chip is what the sensors and the phone use to communicate 
>> however there is a device available for each of the
>> products that allows them to talk using blutetooth to your phone.
>>  
>> The Dexcom is I believe their own product
>> The freestyle uses a third party product called the miaomiao
>> I believe this is Chinese but that?s only a guess.
>>  
>> With this product currently or still I believe you have to either jailbreak 
>> your phone or set the software up as an apple
>> ddeveloper.
>>  
>> this may have changed in the passed couple of months but it was like this 
>> when I started using the freestyle 6 months ago.
>>  
>> The bt dongles for the devices do cost but they let your phone talk to your 
>> sensors without having to worry about the
>> manual  swiping
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2020 5:15 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?
>>  
>> According to one of my clients, the Dexcom is accessible.
>> Both types need at least an iPhone 7 because they use the NFC chip that was 
>> introduced starting with the 7.
>> Their apps make it so a blind person doesn?t need their expensive 
>> stand-alone device to scan the patch.
>> I think the Freestyle ones last longer but if the app doesn?t have an alarm, 
>> I can see why the doctor is leaning toward the
>> Dexcom.
>> Though, you may want to double check the specifications for each one to make 
>> sure that feature hasn?t been added.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>>  
>> ? Live long and prosper
>>  
>>  
>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
>> Malmquist
>> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 4:35 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?
>>  
>> Hi all,
>> Yes, this is very much iPhone related.  I have a question about two glucose 
>> readers.  One is the Freestyle Libre and the
>> other is the Dexcom.  I know that the Libre app is accessible but I don't 
>> know anything about the Dexcom.  My doctor wants
>> me to get the Dexcom because it has alarms and the Libre does not.  The 
>> downside of it is that you have to enter in codes
>> every so often.  To me, if it is accessible that doesn't really matter 
>> because there is always Aira or some way to work that
>> out.  I also noticed that the Libre link app does not work on the 6 S.  
>> Anyone know why?  Or do you have a customer service
>> number?  Does anyone have any answers or where I can go to find out more?  
>> Thanks in advance.
>>  
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>  
>> No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, 
>> you are always being moved toward magnificence.
>> Always.
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RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Ari Moisio]

Hello

In Finland the Libre sensors also last two weeks.

I'll be interested about that bt dongle, do you  have any furhther 
information about it?




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 Simon A Fogarty kirjoitti

Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2020 11:45:53
From: Simon A Fogarty 
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 


Yeah in the US the libre last 10 days,

 

Here in Nz and in the UK and I believe everywhere else

The free style libre last 14 days.

 

Yes the NFC chip is what the sensors and the phone use to communicate however 
there is a device available for each of the
products that allows them to talk using blutetooth to your phone.

 

The Dexcom is I believe their own product

The freestyle uses a third party product called the miaomiao

I believe this is Chinese but that?s only a guess.

 

With this product currently or still I believe you have to either jailbreak 
your phone or set the software up as an apple
ddeveloper.

 

this may have changed in the passed couple of months but it was like this when 
I started using the freestyle 6 months ago.

 

The bt dongles for the devices do cost but they let your phone talk to your 
sensors without having to worry about the
manual  swiping

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2020 5:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

 

According to one of my clients, the Dexcom is accessible.

Both types need at least an iPhone 7 because they use the NFC chip that was 
introduced starting with the 7.

Their apps make it so a blind person doesn?t need their expensive stand-alone 
device to scan the patch.

I think the Freestyle ones last longer but if the app doesn?t have an alarm, I 
can see why the doctor is leaning toward the
Dexcom.

Though, you may want to double check the specifications for each one to make 
sure that feature hasn?t been added.

 

 

 

Richard

 

? Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 4:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

 

Hi all,

Yes, this is very much iPhone related.  I have a question about two glucose 
readers.  One is the Freestyle Libre and the
other is the Dexcom.  I know that the Libre app is accessible but I don't know 
anything about the Dexcom.  My doctor wants
me to get the Dexcom because it has alarms and the Libre does not.  The 
downside of it is that you have to enter in codes
every so often.  To me, if it is accessible that doesn't really matter because 
there is always Aira or some way to work that
out.  I also noticed that the Libre link app does not work on the 6 S.  Anyone 
know why?  Or do you have a customer service
number?  Does anyone have any answers or where I can go to find out more?  
Thanks in advance.

 

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

 

No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you 
are always being moved toward magnificence.
Always.
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RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah kay,

The phone needs to have the NFC chip which I think Richard said came out in the 
7.

I have an 11 so don’t need to worry but have used the freestyle for six plus 
months now and I love it
I know someone that uses the Dexcom and they do say it has better features re 
useability


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2020 6:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

Richard,
Interestingly enough, the Dexcom app downloaded to my 6 S and I could open it.  
Of course, I couldn't do anything with it because I did not have a sensor but 
what I read in the beginning set up was totally accessible.  The Libre app 
would not even download and said that the phone was not able to be used with 
this app.

Kay Malmquist
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From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2020 10:14 AM
Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

According to one of my clients, the Dexcom is accessible.
Both types need at least an iPhone 7 because they use the NFC chip that was 
introduced starting with the 7.
Their apps make it so a blind person doesn’t need their expensive stand-alone 
device to scan the patch.
I think the Freestyle ones last longer but if the app doesn’t have an alarm, I 
can see why the doctor is leaning toward the Dexcom.
Though, you may want to double check the specifications for each one to make 
sure that feature hasn’t been added.



Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 4:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

Hi all,
Yes, this is very much iPhone related.  I have a question about two glucose 
readers.  One is the Freestyle Libre and the other is the Dexcom.  I know that 
the Libre app is accessible but I don't know anything about the Dexcom.  My 
doctor wants me to get the Dexcom because it has alarms and the Libre does not. 
 The downside of it is that you have to enter in codes every so often.  To me, 
if it is accessible that doesn't really matter because there is always Aira or 
some way to work that out.  I also noticed that the Libre link app does not 
work on the 6 S.  Anyone know why?  Or do you have a customer service number?  
Does anyone have any answers or where I can go to find out more?  Thanks in 
advance.

Kay Malmquist
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RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah in the US the libre last 10 days,

Here in Nz and in the UK and I believe everywhere else
The free style libre last 14 days.

Yes the NFC chip is what the sensors and the phone use to communicate however 
there is a device available for each of the products that allows them to talk 
using blutetooth to your phone.

The Dexcom is I believe their own product
The freestyle uses a third party product called the miaomiao
I believe this is Chinese but that’s only a guess.

With this product currently or still I believe you have to either jailbreak 
your phone or set the software up as an apple ddeveloper.

this may have changed in the passed couple of months but it was like this when 
I started using the freestyle 6 months ago.

The bt dongles for the devices do cost but they let your phone talk to your 
sensors without having to worry about the manual  swiping



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2020 5:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

According to one of my clients, the Dexcom is accessible.
Both types need at least an iPhone 7 because they use the NFC chip that was 
introduced starting with the 7.
Their apps make it so a blind person doesn’t need their expensive stand-alone 
device to scan the patch.
I think the Freestyle ones last longer but if the app doesn’t have an alarm, I 
can see why the doctor is leaning toward the Dexcom.
Though, you may want to double check the specifications for each one to make 
sure that feature hasn’t been added.



Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 4:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

Hi all,
Yes, this is very much iPhone related.  I have a question about two glucose 
readers.  One is the Freestyle Libre and the other is the Dexcom.  I know that 
the Libre app is accessible but I don't know anything about the Dexcom.  My 
doctor wants me to get the Dexcom because it has alarms and the Libre does not. 
 The downside of it is that you have to enter in codes every so often.  To me, 
if it is accessible that doesn't really matter because there is always Aira or 
some way to work that out.  I also noticed that the Libre link app does not 
work on the 6 S.  Anyone know why?  Or do you have a customer service number?  
Does anyone have any answers or where I can go to find out more?  Thanks in 
advance.

Kay Malmquist
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Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Kay Malmquist]

Thanks Richard,  This is appreciated.

Kay Malmquist
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2020 2:49 PM
  Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?


  OK, I checked the compatibility for Dexcom and your 6S is compatible.



  Here is the Freestyle phone number and hours.

  1-855-632-8658

  Available 7 days a week 8 AM to 8 PM Eastern Time; excluding Holidays







  Richard



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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
  Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 12:46 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?



  Richard,

  Thanks much for this.  I hate to trouble you for this, but could you fined 
the Freestyle Libre info for me?  Many thanks for what you already did 
though.



  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



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be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
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- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2020 1:50 PM

Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?



Here you go.

From their web site:

Support with Dexcom orders and general customer questions

1-888-738-3646

Monday - Friday  6 AM - 5 PM PST

Saturday 8 AM - 4 PM PST

Email: customerserv...@dexcom.com

Web site: https://www.dexcom.com/



Richard



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 11:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?



It communicates with Bluetooth.  As far as the scanning, I would think 
that it would have to use the NFC chip for that.  I am confused and wonder 
how I can find a number to talk with a live human to answer some of these 
questions.



Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to 
be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne

  - Original Message - 

  From: Richard Turner

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2020 1:08 PM

  Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?



  So, does the Dexcom system not use the NFC chips in their patches?

  How does it communicate with the app?







  Richard



   Live long and prosper





  Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
  Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 9:39 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?



  Richard,

  Interestingly enough, the Dexcom app downloaded to my 6 S and I could 
open it.  Of course, I couldn't do anything with it because I did not have a 
sensor but what I read in the beginning set up was totally accessible.  The 
Libre app would not even download and said that the phone was not able to be 
used with this app.



  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



  No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear 
to be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
  Rhonda Byrne

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2020 10:14 AM

Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?



According to one of my clients, the Dexcom is accessible.

Both types need at least an iPhone 7 because they use the NFC chip 
that was introduced starting with the 7.

Their apps make it so a blind person doesn’t need their expensive 
stand-alone device to scan the patch.

I think the Freestyle ones last longer but if the app doesn’t have 
an alarm, I can see why the doctor is leaning toward the Dexcom.

Though, you may want to double check the specifications for each one 
to make sure that feature hasn’t been added.







Richard



 Live long and prosper





Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 4:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?



Hi all,

Yes, this is very much iPhone related.  I have a question about two 
glucose readers.  One is the Freestyle Libre and the other is the Dexcom.  I 
know that the Libre app is accessible but I don't know anything about the 
Dexcom.  My

RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Richard Turner]

OK, I checked the compatibility for Dexcom and your 6S is compatible.

Here is the Freestyle phone number and hours.
1-855-632-8658
Available 7 days a week 8 AM to 8 PM Eastern Time; excluding Holidays



Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 12:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

Richard,
Thanks much for this.  I hate to trouble you for this, but could you fined the 
Freestyle Libre info for me?  Many thanks for what you already did though.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you 
are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2020 1:50 PM
Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

Here you go.
>From their web site:
Support with Dexcom orders and general customer questions
1-888-738-3646
Monday - Friday  6 AM - 5 PM PST
Saturday 8 AM - 4 PM PST
Email: customerserv...@dexcom.com<mailto:customerserv...@dexcom.com>
Web site: 
https://www.dexcom.com/<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dexcom.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cebe0197b3517411c1e5308d7a756bc92%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637161863279032303=90ksypTgl042gZ4XTynXqEXDykf47IZMEoyAoq%2B0LzU%3D=0>

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 11:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

It communicates with Bluetooth.  As far as the scanning, I would think that it 
would have to use the NFC chip for that.  I am confused and wonder how I can 
find a number to talk with a live human to answer some of these questions.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you 
are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2020 1:08 PM
Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

So, does the Dexcom system not use the NFC chips in their patches?
How does it communicate with the app?



Richard

 Live long and prosper


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

Richard,
Interestingly enough, the Dexcom app downloaded to my 6 S and I could open it.  
Of course, I couldn't do anything with it because I did not have a sensor but 
what I read in the beginning set up was totally accessible.  The Libre app 
would not even download and said that the phone was not able to be used with 
this app.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you 
are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2020 10:14 AM
Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

According to one of my clients, the Dexcom is accessible.
Both types need at least an iPhone 7 because they use the NFC chip that was 
introduced starting with the 7.
Their apps make it so a blind person doesn’t need their expensive stand-alone 
device to scan the patch.
I think the Freestyle ones last longer but if the app doesn’t have an alarm, I 
can see why the doctor is leaning toward the Dexcom.
Though, you may want to double check the specifications for each one to make 
sure that

Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Kay Malmquist]

Richard,
Thanks much for this.  I hate to trouble you for this, but could you fined 
the Freestyle Libre info for me?  Many thanks for what you already did 
though.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, 
you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2020 1:50 PM
  Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?


  Here you go.

  From their web site:

  Support with Dexcom orders and general customer questions

  1-888-738-3646

  Monday - Friday  6 AM - 5 PM PST

  Saturday 8 AM - 4 PM PST

  Email: customerserv...@dexcom.com

  Web site: https://www.dexcom.com/



  Richard



   Live long and prosper





  Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
  Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 11:46 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?



  It communicates with Bluetooth.  As far as the scanning, I would think 
that it would have to use the NFC chip for that.  I am confused and wonder 
how I can find a number to talk with a live human to answer some of these 
questions.



  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



  No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to 
be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
  Rhonda Byrne

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2020 1:08 PM

Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?



So, does the Dexcom system not use the NFC chips in their patches?

How does it communicate with the app?







Richard



 Live long and prosper





Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?



Richard,

Interestingly enough, the Dexcom app downloaded to my 6 S and I could 
open it.  Of course, I couldn't do anything with it because I did not have a 
sensor but what I read in the beginning set up was totally accessible.  The 
Libre app would not even download and said that the phone was not able to be 
used with this app.



Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to 
be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne

  - Original Message - 

  From: Richard Turner

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2020 10:14 AM

  Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?



  According to one of my clients, the Dexcom is accessible.

  Both types need at least an iPhone 7 because they use the NFC chip 
that was introduced starting with the 7.

  Their apps make it so a blind person doesn’t need their expensive 
stand-alone device to scan the patch.

  I think the Freestyle ones last longer but if the app doesn’t have an 
alarm, I can see why the doctor is leaning toward the Dexcom.

  Though, you may want to double check the specifications for each one 
to make sure that feature hasn’t been added.







  Richard



   Live long and prosper





  Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
  Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 4:35 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?



  Hi all,

  Yes, this is very much iPhone related.  I have a question about two 
glucose readers.  One is the Freestyle Libre and the other is the Dexcom.  I 
know that the Libre app is accessible but I don't know anything about the 
Dexcom.  My doctor wants me to get the Dexcom because it has alarms and the 
Libre does not.  The downside of it is that you have to enter in codes every 
so often.  To me, if it is accessible that doesn't really matter because 
there is always Aira or some way to work that out.  I also noticed that the 
Libre link app does not work on the 6 S.  Anyone know why?  Or do you have a 
customer service number?  Does anyone have any answers or where I can go to 
find out more?  Thanks in advance.



  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



  No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear 
to be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
  Rhonda Byrne

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RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Richard Turner]

Here you go.
>From their web site:
Support with Dexcom orders and general customer questions
1-888-738-3646
Monday - Friday  6 AM - 5 PM PST
Saturday 8 AM - 4 PM PST
Email: customerserv...@dexcom.com<mailto:customerserv...@dexcom.com>
Web site: https://www.dexcom.com/

Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 11:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

It communicates with Bluetooth.  As far as the scanning, I would think that it 
would have to use the NFC chip for that.  I am confused and wonder how I can 
find a number to talk with a live human to answer some of these questions.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you 
are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2020 1:08 PM
Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

So, does the Dexcom system not use the NFC chips in their patches?
How does it communicate with the app?



Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com<https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com=02%7C01%7C%7C3d346a19138f413b71f108d7a74e3aea%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637161826752533951=JrpwnboxQOV%2Bs6vq6tViP3Fe62BPk3IR%2B375HzMZOuU%3D=0>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

Richard,
Interestingly enough, the Dexcom app downloaded to my 6 S and I could open it.  
Of course, I couldn't do anything with it because I did not have a sensor but 
what I read in the beginning set up was totally accessible.  The Libre app 
would not even download and said that the phone was not able to be used with 
this app.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you 
are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2020 10:14 AM
Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

According to one of my clients, the Dexcom is accessible.
Both types need at least an iPhone 7 because they use the NFC chip that was 
introduced starting with the 7.
Their apps make it so a blind person doesn’t need their expensive stand-alone 
device to scan the patch.
I think the Freestyle ones last longer but if the app doesn’t have an alarm, I 
can see why the doctor is leaning toward the Dexcom.
Though, you may want to double check the specifications for each one to make 
sure that feature hasn’t been added.



Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com<https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C3d346a19138f413b71f108d7a74e3aea%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637161826752543960=mqZLEeJTTM3eK2aBQ2234FaZYbNMsuYked%2BCuELTWSw%3D=0>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 4:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

Hi all,
Yes, this is very much iPhone related.  I have a question about two glucose 
readers.  One is the Freestyle Libre and the other is the Dexcom.  I know that 
the Libre app is accessible but I don't know anything about the Dexcom.  My 
doctor wants me to get the Dexcom because it has alarms and the Libre does not. 
 The downside of it is that you have to enter in codes every so often.  To me, 
if it is accessible that doesn't really matter because there is always Aira or 
some way to work that out.  I also noticed that the Libre link app does not 
work on the 6 S.  Anyone know why?  Or do you have a customer service number?  
Does anyone have any answers or where I can go to find out more?  Thanks in 
advance.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you 
are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne
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Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Kay Malmquist]

It communicates with Bluetooth.  As far as the scanning, I would think that 
it would have to use the NFC chip for that.  I am confused and wonder how I 
can find a number to talk with a live human to answer some of these 
questions.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, 
you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2020 1:08 PM
  Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?


  So, does the Dexcom system not use the NFC chips in their patches?

  How does it communicate with the app?







  Richard



   Live long and prosper





  Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
  Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 9:39 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?



  Richard,

  Interestingly enough, the Dexcom app downloaded to my 6 S and I could open 
it.  Of course, I couldn't do anything with it because I did not have a 
sensor but what I read in the beginning set up was totally accessible.  The 
Libre app would not even download and said that the phone was not able to be 
used with this app.



  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



  No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to 
be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
  Rhonda Byrne

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2020 10:14 AM

Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?



According to one of my clients, the Dexcom is accessible.

Both types need at least an iPhone 7 because they use the NFC chip that 
was introduced starting with the 7.

Their apps make it so a blind person doesn’t need their expensive 
stand-alone device to scan the patch.

I think the Freestyle ones last longer but if the app doesn’t have an 
alarm, I can see why the doctor is leaning toward the Dexcom.

Though, you may want to double check the specifications for each one to 
make sure that feature hasn’t been added.







Richard



 Live long and prosper





Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 4:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?



Hi all,

Yes, this is very much iPhone related.  I have a question about two 
glucose readers.  One is the Freestyle Libre and the other is the Dexcom.  I 
know that the Libre app is accessible but I don't know anything about the 
Dexcom.  My doctor wants me to get the Dexcom because it has alarms and the 
Libre does not.  The downside of it is that you have to enter in codes every 
so often.  To me, if it is accessible that doesn't really matter because 
there is always Aira or some way to work that out.  I also noticed that the 
Libre link app does not work on the 6 S.  Anyone know why?  Or do you have a 
customer service number?  Does anyone have any answers or where I can go to 
find out more?  Thanks in advance.



Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to 
be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
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RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Richard Turner]

So, does the Dexcom system not use the NFC chips in their patches?
How does it communicate with the app?



Richard

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Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

Richard,
Interestingly enough, the Dexcom app downloaded to my 6 S and I could open it.  
Of course, I couldn't do anything with it because I did not have a sensor but 
what I read in the beginning set up was totally accessible.  The Libre app 
would not even download and said that the phone was not able to be used with 
this app.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you 
are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2020 10:14 AM
Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

According to one of my clients, the Dexcom is accessible.
Both types need at least an iPhone 7 because they use the NFC chip that was 
introduced starting with the 7.
Their apps make it so a blind person doesn’t need their expensive stand-alone 
device to scan the patch.
I think the Freestyle ones last longer but if the app doesn’t have an alarm, I 
can see why the doctor is leaning toward the Dexcom.
Though, you may want to double check the specifications for each one to make 
sure that feature hasn’t been added.



Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: 
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 4:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

Hi all,
Yes, this is very much iPhone related.  I have a question about two glucose 
readers.  One is the Freestyle Libre and the other is the Dexcom.  I know that 
the Libre app is accessible but I don't know anything about the Dexcom.  My 
doctor wants me to get the Dexcom because it has alarms and the Libre does not. 
 The downside of it is that you have to enter in codes every so often.  To me, 
if it is accessible that doesn't really matter because there is always Aira or 
some way to work that out.  I also noticed that the Libre link app does not 
work on the 6 S.  Anyone know why?  Or do you have a customer service number?  
Does anyone have any answers or where I can go to find out more?  Thanks in 
advance.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you 
are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
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Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Kay Malmquist]

Richard,
Interestingly enough, the Dexcom app downloaded to my 6 S and I could open 
it.  Of course, I couldn't do anything with it because I did not have a 
sensor but what I read in the beginning set up was totally accessible.  The 
Libre app would not even download and said that the phone was not able to be 
used with this app.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2020 10:14 AM
  Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?


  According to one of my clients, the Dexcom is accessible.

  Both types need at least an iPhone 7 because they use the NFC chip that 
was introduced starting with the 7.

  Their apps make it so a blind person doesn’t need their expensive 
stand-alone device to scan the patch.

  I think the Freestyle ones last longer but if the app doesn’t have an 
alarm, I can see why the doctor is leaning toward the Dexcom.

  Though, you may want to double check the specifications for each one to 
make sure that feature hasn’t been added.







  Richard



   Live long and prosper





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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
  Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 4:35 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?



  Hi all,

  Yes, this is very much iPhone related.  I have a question about two 
glucose readers.  One is the Freestyle Libre and the other is the Dexcom.  I 
know that the Libre app is accessible but I don't know anything about the 
Dexcom.  My doctor wants me to get the Dexcom because it has alarms and the 
Libre does not.  The downside of it is that you have to enter in codes every 
so often.  To me, if it is accessible that doesn't really matter because 
there is always Aira or some way to work that out.  I also noticed that the 
Libre link app does not work on the 6 S.  Anyone know why?  Or do you have a 
customer service number?  Does anyone have any answers or where I can go to 
find out more?  Thanks in advance.



  Kay Malmquist
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Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Kay Malmquist]

Thanks sieghard,
I had a feeling it might be something like that.  I'll either have to update 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 11:46 PM
  Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?


  It does not work with a 6S or earlier because they did not have an NFC 
chip which was available for third party developers, it was locked down to 
allow Apple Pay and that’s it.

  The iPhone 7 and later have an NFC chip which developers can access and 
use for their apps/devices.





  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
  Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 9:39 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?



  Hi Kay,



  I’m a libre user and I have no issues with it at all.



  I went with the libre  simply because of the price of the device here in 
new Zealand,



  The app is very usable as you said but could be better still



  I have chatted to someone who if I remember uses the Dexcom so I can only 
assume it is usable.



  Can’t you download the app and try it without a sensor?

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
  Sent: Saturday, 1 February 2020 1:35 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?



  Hi all,

  Yes, this is very much iPhone related.  I have a question about two 
glucose readers.  One is the Freestyle Libre and the other is the Dexcom.  I 
know that the Libre app is accessible but I don't know anything about the 
Dexcom.  My doctor wants me to get the Dexcom because it has alarms and the 
Libre does not.  The downside of it is that you have to enter in codes every 
so often.  To me, if it is accessible that doesn't really matter because 
there is always Aira or some way to work that out.  I also noticed that the 
Libre link app does not work on the 6 S.  Anyone know why?  Or do you have a 
customer service number?  Does anyone have any answers or where I can go to 
find out more?  Thanks in advance.



  Kay Malmquist
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RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Richard Turner]

According to one of my clients, the Dexcom is accessible.
Both types need at least an iPhone 7 because they use the NFC chip that was 
introduced starting with the 7.
Their apps make it so a blind person doesn’t need their expensive stand-alone 
device to scan the patch.
I think the Freestyle ones last longer but if the app doesn’t have an alarm, I 
can see why the doctor is leaning toward the Dexcom.
Though, you may want to double check the specifications for each one to make 
sure that feature hasn’t been added.



Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 4:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

Hi all,
Yes, this is very much iPhone related.  I have a question about two glucose 
readers.  One is the Freestyle Libre and the other is the Dexcom.  I know that 
the Libre app is accessible but I don't know anything about the Dexcom.  My 
doctor wants me to get the Dexcom because it has alarms and the Libre does not. 
 The downside of it is that you have to enter in codes every so often.  To me, 
if it is accessible that doesn't really matter because there is always Aira or 
some way to work that out.  I also noticed that the Libre link app does not 
work on the 6 S.  Anyone know why?  Or do you have a customer service number?  
Does anyone have any answers or where I can go to find out more?  Thanks in 
advance.

Kay Malmquist
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RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Simon A Fogarty]

The libre doesn’t by default sync with the phone,

You need to wave the phone near it.

Dexcom does sync auto with the phone from a somewhat distance
There is an adapter you can get called a miaomiao  that you can stick on to the 
libre which uses Bluetooth to sync with the phone.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, 1 February 2020 6:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

It does not work with a 6S or earlier because they did not have an NFC chip 
which was available for third party developers, it was locked down to allow 
Apple Pay and that’s it.
The iPhone 7 and later have an NFC chip which developers can access and use for 
their apps/devices.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 9:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

Hi Kay,

I’m a libre user and I have no issues with it at all.

I went with the libre  simply because of the price of the device here in new 
Zealand,

The app is very usable as you said but could be better still

I have chatted to someone who if I remember uses the Dexcom so I can only 
assume it is usable.

Can’t you download the app and try it without a sensor?
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, 1 February 2020 1:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

Hi all,
Yes, this is very much iPhone related.  I have a question about two glucose 
readers.  One is the Freestyle Libre and the other is the Dexcom.  I know that 
the Libre app is accessible but I don't know anything about the Dexcom.  My 
doctor wants me to get the Dexcom because it has alarms and the Libre does not. 
 The downside of it is that you have to enter in codes every so often.  To me, 
if it is accessible that doesn't really matter because there is always Aira or 
some way to work that out.  I also noticed that the Libre link app does not 
work on the 6 S.  Anyone know why?  Or do you have a customer service number?  
Does anyone have any answers or where I can go to find out more?  Thanks in 
advance.

Kay Malmquist
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RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It does not work with a 6S or earlier because they did not have an NFC chip 
which was available for third party developers, it was locked down to allow 
Apple Pay and that’s it.
The iPhone 7 and later have an NFC chip which developers can access and use for 
their apps/devices.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 9:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

Hi Kay,

I’m a libre user and I have no issues with it at all.

I went with the libre  simply because of the price of the device here in new 
Zealand,

The app is very usable as you said but could be better still

I have chatted to someone who if I remember uses the Dexcom so I can only 
assume it is usable.

Can’t you download the app and try it without a sensor?
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, 1 February 2020 1:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

Hi all,
Yes, this is very much iPhone related.  I have a question about two glucose 
readers.  One is the Freestyle Libre and the other is the Dexcom.  I know that 
the Libre app is accessible but I don't know anything about the Dexcom.  My 
doctor wants me to get the Dexcom because it has alarms and the Libre does not. 
 The downside of it is that you have to enter in codes every so often.  To me, 
if it is accessible that doesn't really matter because there is always Aira or 
some way to work that out.  I also noticed that the Libre link app does not 
work on the 6 S.  Anyone know why?  Or do you have a customer service number?  
Does anyone have any answers or where I can go to find out more?  Thanks in 
advance.

Kay Malmquist
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RE: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Kay,

I’m a libre user and I have no issues with it at all.

I went with the libre  simply because of the price of the device here in new 
Zealand,

The app is very usable as you said but could be better still

I have chatted to someone who if I remember uses the Dexcom so I can only 
assume it is usable.

Can’t you download the app and try it without a sensor?
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, 1 February 2020 1:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

Hi all,
Yes, this is very much iPhone related.  I have a question about two glucose 
readers.  One is the Freestyle Libre and the other is the Dexcom.  I know that 
the Libre app is accessible but I don't know anything about the Dexcom.  My 
doctor wants me to get the Dexcom because it has alarms and the Libre does not. 
 The downside of it is that you have to enter in codes every so often.  To me, 
if it is accessible that doesn't really matter because there is always Aira or 
some way to work that out.  I also noticed that the Libre link app does not 
work on the 6 S.  Anyone know why?  Or do you have a customer service number?  
Does anyone have any answers or where I can go to find out more?  Thanks in 
advance.

Kay Malmquist
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