Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring?
Now on this one I would say that I used to agree with your logic, however now-a-days, especially with keyboards easily available, if taking down notes, emails, or long typing is involved, iPads are not that bad. If you use an app like Drafts especially whether it's with dictation or a bluetooth keyboard you will not be doing bad. Now, if massive storage is a concern, then either an actual laptop or desktop is in order, or better yet, a nas of some kind or a collection of external hard drives which of course you will need to access easily. However I disagree with your opinion regarding the productivity angle. -- Raul A. Gallegos No one sits in my spot. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/18/2014 8:51 PM, Joseph FreeTech wrote: Writing is going to be a bit of a headache since you will have to turn on the edit mode on the iPad whenever you need to type text. Someone typed up an article regarding best apps for text entry, and I ran a quick search for you and did not find it, but the article is definitely on the AppleVis website. Since the experience on the iPad will for the most part be the same as your iPod, try quickly launching a text editing word processor type of app and quickly taking down a Note, and you will find it is more trouble than one would want to go through when taking down a quick Note or writing lengthy documents. I got along much better when I changed my mindset and concluded iOS devices are better used as consumption devices rather than production tools. I have carpeting and have had a cat for some 10 years, and this has not been a significant problem for me though my desktop is on cat level--the floor. Not challenging your personal experience, just stating that maybe my shaggy carpet and fluffy cat don't produce as much lint and stuff that gets caught in computer filters. Joseph - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:37 PM Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring?
No. It's the iPad Air and the iPhone 5s which both have the same chip. Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 12:19 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Oops, I caused confusion, I think. I meant to ask if the iPad Air and the Mini have the same a7 chip. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 23, 2014, at 9:58 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: The iPad Air has the same chip as does the iPhone 5s. Both are 64 bit architecture. Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 5:15 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hey, Alan, et al, I think I saw those same keyboards for the Minis as well. My thought is that in that case, the only difference between the two iPads is screen size, which I don't care about, since I have no sight. They are about $100 US different in price. They have the same chip, right? Of course, the keyboards for each might be different. I could see the iPad Air having a full keyboard. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 22, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: I would go with the iPad Air instead of the mini sense she is looking for something to replace an aging computer. The iPad Air in a QWERTY keyboard case is around the size of a Windows Netbook or a screen size that's roughly 10 by 5 inches. Before 50 people write in to give me the exact dimensions I said approximately grin I too wanted a replacement for a computer. In my case, it was to replace an XP laptop. The Air is solid state and has no moving parts like the iPhone etc. With the QWERTY case, it actually closes like a laptop as well and, when you don't need the keyboard, it's very easy to remove the iPad from the case. I should say too that the QWERTY keyboard is powered by a rechargeable battery. It takes 3 hours to fully recharge a dead keyboard and a charge lasts me roughly 2 weeks to a month depending on how often I reply to messages. HTH Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: rhondaprinc...@gmail.com To: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 1:22 AM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hello Teresa, I would recommend you get a iPad mini if that suits your needs. It is a good device. I also have a iPad mini and are you for the following gate some music, texting, and so much more. Comes very useful for my needs. Sent from my iPad On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:37 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The
Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring?
As far as I've been able to figure, iPad Air, iPad Mini with retina display, and iPhone 5S all have the a7 chip. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 24, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: No. It's the iPad Air and the iPhone 5s which both have the same chip. Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 12:19 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Oops, I caused confusion, I think. I meant to ask if the iPad Air and the Mini have the same a7 chip. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 23, 2014, at 9:58 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: The iPad Air has the same chip as does the iPhone 5s. Both are 64 bit architecture. Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 5:15 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hey, Alan, et al, I think I saw those same keyboards for the Minis as well. My thought is that in that case, the only difference between the two iPads is screen size, which I don't care about, since I have no sight. They are about $100 US different in price. They have the same chip, right? Of course, the keyboards for each might be different. I could see the iPad Air having a full keyboard. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 22, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: I would go with the iPad Air instead of the mini sense she is looking for something to replace an aging computer. The iPad Air in a QWERTY keyboard case is around the size of a Windows Netbook or a screen size that's roughly 10 by 5 inches. Before 50 people write in to give me the exact dimensions I said approximately grin I too wanted a replacement for a computer. In my case, it was to replace an XP laptop. The Air is solid state and has no moving parts like the iPhone etc. With the QWERTY case, it actually closes like a laptop as well and, when you don't need the keyboard, it's very easy to remove the iPad from the case. I should say too that the QWERTY keyboard is powered by a rechargeable battery. It takes 3 hours to fully recharge a dead keyboard and a charge lasts me roughly 2 weeks to a month depending on how often I reply to messages. HTH Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: rhondaprinc...@gmail.com To: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 1:22 AM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hello Teresa, I would recommend you get a iPad mini if that suits your needs. It is a good device. I also have a iPad mini and are you for the following gate some music, texting, and so much more. Comes very useful for my needs. Sent from my iPad On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:37 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with
Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring?
And the iPad mini too. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 24/06/2014 18:51, Alan Paganelli wrote: No. It's the iPad Air and the iPhone 5s which both have the same chip. Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 12:19 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Oops, I caused confusion, I think. I meant to ask if the iPad Air and the Mini have the same a7 chip. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 23, 2014, at 9:58 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: The iPad Air has the same chip as does the iPhone 5s. Both are 64 bit architecture. Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 5:15 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hey, Alan, et al, I think I saw those same keyboards for the Minis as well. My thought is that in that case, the only difference between the two iPads is screen size, which I don't care about, since I have no sight. They are about $100 US different in price. They have the same chip, right? Of course, the keyboards for each might be different. I could see the iPad Air having a full keyboard. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 22, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: I would go with the iPad Air instead of the mini sense she is looking for something to replace an aging computer. The iPad Air in a QWERTY keyboard case is around the size of a Windows Netbook or a screen size that's roughly 10 by 5 inches. Before 50 people write in to give me the exact dimensions I said approximately grin I too wanted a replacement for a computer. In my case, it was to replace an XP laptop. The Air is solid state and has no moving parts like the iPhone etc. With the QWERTY case, it actually closes like a laptop as well and, when you don't need the keyboard, it's very easy to remove the iPad from the case. I should say too that the QWERTY keyboard is powered by a rechargeable battery. It takes 3 hours to fully recharge a dead keyboard and a charge lasts me roughly 2 weeks to a month depending on how often I reply to messages. HTH Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: rhondaprinc...@gmail.com To: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 1:22 AM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hello Teresa, I would recommend you get a iPad mini if that suits your needs. It is a good device. I also have a iPad mini and are you for the following gate some music, texting, and so much more. Comes very useful for my needs. Sent from my iPad On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:37 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal
Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring?
No, it seems the iPad Mini without retina display actually has the a5 chip. The iPad with retina display has the A6X chip. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 24, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: And the iPad mini too. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 24/06/2014 18:51, Alan Paganelli wrote: No. It's the iPad Air and the iPhone 5s which both have the same chip. Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 12:19 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Oops, I caused confusion, I think. I meant to ask if the iPad Air and the Mini have the same a7 chip. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 23, 2014, at 9:58 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: The iPad Air has the same chip as does the iPhone 5s. Both are 64 bit architecture. Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 5:15 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hey, Alan, et al, I think I saw those same keyboards for the Minis as well. My thought is that in that case, the only difference between the two iPads is screen size, which I don't care about, since I have no sight. They are about $100 US different in price. They have the same chip, right? Of course, the keyboards for each might be different. I could see the iPad Air having a full keyboard. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 22, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: I would go with the iPad Air instead of the mini sense she is looking for something to replace an aging computer. The iPad Air in a QWERTY keyboard case is around the size of a Windows Netbook or a screen size that's roughly 10 by 5 inches. Before 50 people write in to give me the exact dimensions I said approximately grin I too wanted a replacement for a computer. In my case, it was to replace an XP laptop. The Air is solid state and has no moving parts like the iPhone etc. With the QWERTY case, it actually closes like a laptop as well and, when you don't need the keyboard, it's very easy to remove the iPad from the case. I should say too that the QWERTY keyboard is powered by a rechargeable battery. It takes 3 hours to fully recharge a dead keyboard and a charge lasts me roughly 2 weeks to a month depending on how often I reply to messages. HTH Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: rhondaprinc...@gmail.com To: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 1:22 AM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hello Teresa, I would recommend you get a iPad mini if that suits your needs. It is a good device. I also have a iPad mini and are you for the following gate some music, texting, and so much more. Comes very useful for my needs. Sent from my iPad On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:37 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't
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The iPhone 5s and the iPad Air both have the a7 chip which is the first 64 bit chip in a smart phone. Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:13 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? No, it seems the iPad Mini without retina display actually has the a5 chip. The iPad with retina display has the A6X chip. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 24, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: And the iPad mini too. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 24/06/2014 18:51, Alan Paganelli wrote: No. It's the iPad Air and the iPhone 5s which both have the same chip. Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 12:19 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Oops, I caused confusion, I think. I meant to ask if the iPad Air and the Mini have the same a7 chip. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 23, 2014, at 9:58 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: The iPad Air has the same chip as does the iPhone 5s. Both are 64 bit architecture. Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 5:15 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hey, Alan, et al, I think I saw those same keyboards for the Minis as well. My thought is that in that case, the only difference between the two iPads is screen size, which I don't care about, since I have no sight. They are about $100 US different in price. They have the same chip, right? Of course, the keyboards for each might be different. I could see the iPad Air having a full keyboard. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 22, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: I would go with the iPad Air instead of the mini sense she is looking for something to replace an aging computer. The iPad Air in a QWERTY keyboard case is around the size of a Windows Netbook or a screen size that's roughly 10 by 5 inches. Before 50 people write in to give me the exact dimensions I said approximately grin I too wanted a replacement for a computer. In my case, it was to replace an XP laptop. The Air is solid state and has no moving parts like the iPhone etc. With the QWERTY case, it actually closes like a laptop as well and, when you don't need the keyboard, it's very easy to remove the iPad from the case. I should say too that the QWERTY keyboard is powered by a rechargeable battery. It takes 3 hours to fully recharge a dead keyboard and a charge lasts me roughly 2 weeks to a month depending on how often I reply to messages. HTH Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: rhondaprinc...@gmail.com To: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 1:22 AM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hello Teresa, I would recommend you get a iPad
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That's what i meant the iPad mini with retina. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 24/06/2014 20:13, Teresa Cochran wrote: No, it seems the iPad Mini without retina display actually has the a5 chip. The iPad with retina display has the A6X chip. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 24, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: And the iPad mini too. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 24/06/2014 18:51, Alan Paganelli wrote: No. It's the iPad Air and the iPhone 5s which both have the same chip. Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 12:19 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Oops, I caused confusion, I think. I meant to ask if the iPad Air and the Mini have the same a7 chip. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 23, 2014, at 9:58 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: The iPad Air has the same chip as does the iPhone 5s. Both are 64 bit architecture. Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 5:15 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hey, Alan, et al, I think I saw those same keyboards for the Minis as well. My thought is that in that case, the only difference between the two iPads is screen size, which I don't care about, since I have no sight. They are about $100 US different in price. They have the same chip, right? Of course, the keyboards for each might be different. I could see the iPad Air having a full keyboard. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 22, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: I would go with the iPad Air instead of the mini sense she is looking for something to replace an aging computer. The iPad Air in a QWERTY keyboard case is around the size of a Windows Netbook or a screen size that's roughly 10 by 5 inches. Before 50 people write in to give me the exact dimensions I said approximately grin I too wanted a replacement for a computer. In my case, it was to replace an XP laptop. The Air is solid state and has no moving parts like the iPhone etc. With the QWERTY case, it actually closes like a laptop as well and, when you don't need the keyboard, it's very easy to remove the iPad from the case. I should say too that the QWERTY keyboard is powered by a rechargeable battery. It takes 3 hours to fully recharge a dead keyboard and a charge lasts me roughly 2 weeks to a month depending on how often I reply to messages. HTH Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: rhondaprinc...@gmail.com To: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 1:22 AM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hello Teresa, I would recommend you get a iPad mini if that suits your needs. It is a good device. I also have a iPad mini and are you for the following gate some music, texting, and so much more. Comes very useful for my needs. Sent from my iPad On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:37 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want
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The iPad Air has the same chip as does the iPhone 5s. Both are 64 bit architecture. Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 5:15 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hey, Alan, et al, I think I saw those same keyboards for the Minis as well. My thought is that in that case, the only difference between the two iPads is screen size, which I don't care about, since I have no sight. They are about $100 US different in price. They have the same chip, right? Of course, the keyboards for each might be different. I could see the iPad Air having a full keyboard. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 22, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: I would go with the iPad Air instead of the mini sense she is looking for something to replace an aging computer. The iPad Air in a QWERTY keyboard case is around the size of a Windows Netbook or a screen size that's roughly 10 by 5 inches. Before 50 people write in to give me the exact dimensions I said approximately grin I too wanted a replacement for a computer. In my case, it was to replace an XP laptop. The Air is solid state and has no moving parts like the iPhone etc. With the QWERTY case, it actually closes like a laptop as well and, when you don't need the keyboard, it's very easy to remove the iPad from the case. I should say too that the QWERTY keyboard is powered by a rechargeable battery. It takes 3 hours to fully recharge a dead keyboard and a charge lasts me roughly 2 weeks to a month depending on how often I reply to messages. HTH Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: rhondaprinc...@gmail.com To: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 1:22 AM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hello Teresa, I would recommend you get a iPad mini if that suits your needs. It is a good device. I also have a iPad mini and are you for the following gate some music, texting, and so much more. Comes very useful for my needs. Sent from my iPad On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:37 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by
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Oops, I caused confusion, I think. I meant to ask if the iPad Air and the Mini have the same a7 chip. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 23, 2014, at 9:58 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: The iPad Air has the same chip as does the iPhone 5s. Both are 64 bit architecture. Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 5:15 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hey, Alan, et al, I think I saw those same keyboards for the Minis as well. My thought is that in that case, the only difference between the two iPads is screen size, which I don't care about, since I have no sight. They are about $100 US different in price. They have the same chip, right? Of course, the keyboards for each might be different. I could see the iPad Air having a full keyboard. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 22, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: I would go with the iPad Air instead of the mini sense she is looking for something to replace an aging computer. The iPad Air in a QWERTY keyboard case is around the size of a Windows Netbook or a screen size that's roughly 10 by 5 inches. Before 50 people write in to give me the exact dimensions I said approximately grin I too wanted a replacement for a computer. In my case, it was to replace an XP laptop. The Air is solid state and has no moving parts like the iPhone etc. With the QWERTY case, it actually closes like a laptop as well and, when you don't need the keyboard, it's very easy to remove the iPad from the case. I should say too that the QWERTY keyboard is powered by a rechargeable battery. It takes 3 hours to fully recharge a dead keyboard and a charge lasts me roughly 2 weeks to a month depending on how often I reply to messages. HTH Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: rhondaprinc...@gmail.com To: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 1:22 AM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hello Teresa, I would recommend you get a iPad mini if that suits your needs. It is a good device. I also have a iPad mini and are you for the following gate some music, texting, and so much more. Comes very useful for my needs. Sent from my iPad On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:37 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from
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Yes the mini with retina has the same hardware such as the chip as the Air. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 23/06/2014 20:19, Teresa Cochran wrote: Oops, I caused confusion, I think. I meant to ask if the iPad Air and the Mini have the same a7 chip. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 23, 2014, at 9:58 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: The iPad Air has the same chip as does the iPhone 5s. Both are 64 bit architecture. Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 5:15 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hey, Alan, et al, I think I saw those same keyboards for the Minis as well. My thought is that in that case, the only difference between the two iPads is screen size, which I don't care about, since I have no sight. They are about $100 US different in price. They have the same chip, right? Of course, the keyboards for each might be different. I could see the iPad Air having a full keyboard. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 22, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: I would go with the iPad Air instead of the mini sense she is looking for something to replace an aging computer. The iPad Air in a QWERTY keyboard case is around the size of a Windows Netbook or a screen size that's roughly 10 by 5 inches. Before 50 people write in to give me the exact dimensions I said approximately grin I too wanted a replacement for a computer. In my case, it was to replace an XP laptop. The Air is solid state and has no moving parts like the iPhone etc. With the QWERTY case, it actually closes like a laptop as well and, when you don't need the keyboard, it's very easy to remove the iPad from the case. I should say too that the QWERTY keyboard is powered by a rechargeable battery. It takes 3 hours to fully recharge a dead keyboard and a charge lasts me roughly 2 weeks to a month depending on how often I reply to messages. HTH Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: rhondaprinc...@gmail.com To: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 1:22 AM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hello Teresa, I would recommend you get a iPad mini if that suits your needs. It is a good device. I also have a iPad mini and are you for the following gate some music, texting, and so much more. Comes very useful for my needs. Sent from my iPad On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:37 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
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I would go with the iPad Air instead of the mini sense she is looking for something to replace an aging computer. The iPad Air in a QWERTY keyboard case is around the size of a Windows Netbook or a screen size that's roughly 10 by 5 inches. Before 50 people write in to give me the exact dimensions I said approximately grin I too wanted a replacement for a computer. In my case, it was to replace an XP laptop. The Air is solid state and has no moving parts like the iPhone etc. With the QWERTY case, it actually closes like a laptop as well and, when you don't need the keyboard, it's very easy to remove the iPad from the case. I should say too that the QWERTY keyboard is powered by a rechargeable battery. It takes 3 hours to fully recharge a dead keyboard and a charge lasts me roughly 2 weeks to a month depending on how often I reply to messages. HTH Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: rhondaprinc...@gmail.com To: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 1:22 AM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hello Teresa, I would recommend you get a iPad mini if that suits your needs. It is a good device. I also have a iPad mini and are you for the following gate some music, texting, and so much more. Comes very useful for my needs. Sent from my iPad On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:37 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To
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Hey, Alan, et al, I think I saw those same keyboards for the Minis as well. My thought is that in that case, the only difference between the two iPads is screen size, which I don't care about, since I have no sight. They are about $100 US different in price. They have the same chip, right? Of course, the keyboards for each might be different. I could see the iPad Air having a full keyboard. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 22, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: I would go with the iPad Air instead of the mini sense she is looking for something to replace an aging computer. The iPad Air in a QWERTY keyboard case is around the size of a Windows Netbook or a screen size that's roughly 10 by 5 inches. Before 50 people write in to give me the exact dimensions I said approximately grin I too wanted a replacement for a computer. In my case, it was to replace an XP laptop. The Air is solid state and has no moving parts like the iPhone etc. With the QWERTY case, it actually closes like a laptop as well and, when you don't need the keyboard, it's very easy to remove the iPad from the case. I should say too that the QWERTY keyboard is powered by a rechargeable battery. It takes 3 hours to fully recharge a dead keyboard and a charge lasts me roughly 2 weeks to a month depending on how often I reply to messages. HTH Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: rhondaprinc...@gmail.com To: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 1:22 AM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hello Teresa, I would recommend you get a iPad mini if that suits your needs. It is a good device. I also have a iPad mini and are you for the following gate some music, texting, and so much more. Comes very useful for my needs. Sent from my iPad On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:37 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
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Ok, an update on my situation: today was a bit of a roller coaster. The Apple Store called and said the logic board checked out. I gave them the go-ahead to replace the hard drive. Late this afternoon, the original genius bar guy I contacted called back and said the USB ports briefly lost power, which was probably a sign of logic board failure. I gave the go-ahead to recycle the computer. Until I get a windfall in a few months, I've bought a cheap BT keyboard to use with my iPod. The Apple Store guys were great. They were almost gentle when they explained things to me, anticipating my disappointment. The one guy said he was sorry things turned out the way they did, and I said onward. Of course, I am pretty sure I'll go back there for my next purchase. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 22, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: I would go with the iPad Air instead of the mini sense she is looking for something to replace an aging computer. The iPad Air in a QWERTY keyboard case is around the size of a Windows Netbook or a screen size that's roughly 10 by 5 inches. Before 50 people write in to give me the exact dimensions I said approximately grin I too wanted a replacement for a computer. In my case, it was to replace an XP laptop. The Air is solid state and has no moving parts like the iPhone etc. With the QWERTY case, it actually closes like a laptop as well and, when you don't need the keyboard, it's very easy to remove the iPad from the case. I should say too that the QWERTY keyboard is powered by a rechargeable battery. It takes 3 hours to fully recharge a dead keyboard and a charge lasts me roughly 2 weeks to a month depending on how often I reply to messages. HTH Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: rhondaprinc...@gmail.com To: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 1:22 AM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hello Teresa, I would recommend you get a iPad mini if that suits your needs. It is a good device. I also have a iPad mini and are you for the following gate some music, texting, and so much more. Comes very useful for my needs. Sent from my iPad On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:37 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be
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I admire all this and thank you for describing it for us. We just don't like having to start over with the learning process having got comfortable with one already, but accept your accessibility comments seriously enough to make that effort. I'd still be happier if the means of importing and retaining legacy material, was clearer and better understood. Many thanks, RobH. Ps: though still a novice at this too, but dictation including voiced punctuation marking, seems to work pretty good now, better than I found it before. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:36 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? I use VoiceOver. My vision is limited to slightly better than light perception. What I do is slowly explore the screen, the same way a sighted person would do with vision. VO reads the text in the line under one's finger and places the read cursor either at the beginning or the end of the line, depending on the direction the finger is moving. I then use the rotor to select words for moving quickly through the line, and characters for specific editing (when not using my braille display). Even when using my braille display, however, I still use the touchscreen for reading and exploring. The touchscreen gives us the same two-dimensional experience that the sighted get, but to take full advantage of this, blind people must retrain our conceptions of how to function with the system. It is absolutely fascinating watching blind children, who only have positive training on iPads, navigate and work with the touchscreen. They do things that most of you regularly say are impossible, because they do not know any better. I wish more TVI's would train their kids the way a few excellent ones do. As for the app I use for my case notes: after experimenting with a few notes apps, I decided Apple Notes works well enough for my needs, and has the best guarantee of always working with the latest iOS (I always upgrade shortly after release), and will most probably always be VO accessible. after all, if Apple ceases its focus on universal accessibility in general and blindness accessibility in particular (considering Tim Cooks comments in April when challenged on this specific matter, considerably less likely than Jaws becoming a completely free program tomorrow), the entire system will become inaccessible anyway. Our medical office software is completely inaccessible, so we set up work-arounds for me. I email the complete notes file to our admin after each update. Admin copies my latest entry from the beginning of the file and pastes it into the patient's permanent record. This way, I maintain my complete client file in case I need to look up information, and only the most recent entry is added to the permanent record each time. When others update patient records in the system, and it is information relevant to my work, that person emails a copy of their entry to me and I paste it at the relevant place in my notes file. I separate each entry with a blank line, and type the date at the top of each entry. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 7:19, denise avant denise.av...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, What edit program are you using to write your case notes? If I may ask, are you relying on voiceover or can you see the screen? I am asking because it seems that the weakest part of the iPhone for blind users seems to be the text editors. Otherwise, all of the other components are fabulus. I use my iPhone, and sometimes the iPad for everything except for keeping long notes, and editing documents. On Jun 20, 2014, at 11:53 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I actually find Safari on my iPhone to be quicker to navigate than Safari on my Mac, or IE on an office PC. Then again, I use the touchscreen exclusively for navigating. I do all my email on my iPhone. I turn my MacBook Air on once or twice per week, currently. I write all my case notes for work, manage my calendars, perform much of my research, and do my initial paper writing, all on my iPhone. I plan to acquire an iPad when Touch-ID becomes available on it. I will keep a computer around, for now, mainly to back-up the iDevices. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 3:38, Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com wrote: i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I
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AAaah, My first was Amstrad in 1986, and yes, not seen a floppy in years. I always had tandom drives and brought material from hd to hd. But yes, got external usb drive now. 250Gb, not a lot by today's standard, but more than enough in plain text. I've not had great success with ss memory sticks or cards above 16Gb yet, so hoping that improves. But, and hopefully nearer original subject, if the pen drive external storage concept could be advanced to the iPlatform, I'd probably be converted, finally!. Best, RobH. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:47 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. . But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing articles, recipes, information and such. When an email or webpage has information I might find useful in the future I copy the relevant info and quickly save it in my Dropbox folder. I have huge files of health articles, recipes, iDevice information, computer and Jaws info, and tons of other stuff. I have not figured out how to quickly (or slowly for that matter) copy items from the web or email on my IOS device and save them in my files for future reference. Another thing the Windows laptop can do is handle certain functions on Facebook that I can't do with the regular Facebook app.I also agree with the person who mentioned the ability to use USB memory sticks for the NLS readers and other backup purposes. I use my iPhone to listen to books during the day but find my NLS player easier for night listening. If you need a new computer you can get a budget laptop for less than an iPad and then you have the best of both worlds. just my biased opinion... Sherrie Gosling -Original Message- From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable
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True, but deterioration rates should be less, and each transfer effectively refreshes the data to full strength. True, a glitch could also proliferate at each re-write. A new copy is only as good as the old one. So taking a new copy sooner to minimise the degradation of the old one. I don't even understand the physics behind what holds memory in modern ss materials, so not sure how well its degradation process is understood and calculated yet. We are still looking for the ultimate in really permanent memory. Apple could really score big if they floated something like that. Bio-memory or atomic level storageI've not heard of the latest ideas for a hwile now. RobH. - Original Message - From: Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 11:47 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? David, actually, your current hard drive has the same type of magnetic surface as your previous floppies and is also susceptible to data rot, so you might want to reconsider how you're storing such old data. A hard disk drive platter (or disk) is the circular disk on which magnetic data is stored in a hard disk drive. The rigid nature of the platters in a hard drive is what gives them their name (as opposed to the flexible materials which are used to make floppy disk). Hard drives typically have several platters which are mounted on the same spindle. A platter can store information on both sides, requiring two heads per platter. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 2:47 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. . But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing articles, recipes, information and such. When an email or webpage has information I might find useful in the future I copy the relevant info and quickly save it in my Dropbox folder. I have huge files of health articles, recipes, iDevice information, computer and Jaws info, and tons of other stuff. I have not figured out how to quickly (or slowly for that matter) copy items from the web or email on my IOS device and save them in my files for future reference. Another thing the Windows laptop can do is handle certain functions on Facebook that I can't do with the regular Facebook app.I also agree with the person who mentioned the ability
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The nearest we have to this, is an adapter to take an SD card, which is just as good. Still a lightening connector, she uses on her iPad Mini. - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 1:23 AM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? What??? There are sticks with lightning ports??? This is much nicer than I expected. Wow. Teresa, doing a happy dance Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:47 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. . But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing articles, recipes, information and such. When an email or webpage has information I might find useful in the future I copy the relevant info and quickly save it in my Dropbox folder. I have huge files of health articles, recipes, iDevice information, computer and Jaws info, and tons of other stuff. I have not figured out how to quickly (or slowly for that matter) copy items from the web or email on my IOS device and save them in my files for future reference. Another thing the Windows laptop can do is handle certain functions on Facebook that I can't do with the regular Facebook app.I also agree with the person who mentioned the ability to use USB memory sticks for the NLS readers and other backup purposes. I use my iPhone to listen to books during the day but find my NLS player easier for night listening. If you need a new computer you can get a budget laptop for less than an iPad and then you have the best of both worlds. just my biased opinion... Sherrie Gosling -Original Message- From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a
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Please keep a list informed as to when these things become available, will you? Thanks, Sandy Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 05:18, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Billy, The flashdrive David referred to is made to work with iDevices and to plug directly into the Lightning port of an iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch. This would be of great value for people who would like to have access to data which does not fit on their iPhone or iPad. I believe the drive is designed with a regular USB connector so you can plug it into the computer, copy files to it and then plug it directly into your iDevice and access the files. Regards, Sieghardadditional data -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Billy Maynard Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 9:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? what is this new thing? a flash drive that uses a different connector? I hate sounding like a uneducated person but, Not sure how this is different or better than the flash drives we now have. Billy Maynard - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:55 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Well, that is fascinating. I'll definitely be monitoring this. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 8:26 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: It is a KickStarter project which just got funded. They are projecting a September fulfilment time, so it will hopefully be sometime between September and December. They raised so much funds that I expect to see the product for sale generally by the beginning of next year. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 12:23, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: What??? There are sticks with lightning ports??? This is much nicer than I expected. Wow. Teresa, doing a happy dance Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:47 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. . But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing
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A means to plug external memory products to your iDevice. Like I said a bit back, She got an Adapter off Apple themselves over here, which is a little thing with the Lightening connector plug, less than 3inches of cable, then a wide bit on the end, about the shape of the old connector, bigger, with a slot to take the SD card. £15, so $25 max, plus your own SD cards of course. A pen drive with the Lightening connector on already is a good step forward. Hope they remember the short flex to minimise risk to connector ports on the device though. - Original Message - From: Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 5:00 AM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? what is this new thing? a flash drive that uses a different connector? I hate sounding like a uneducated person but, Not sure how this is different or better than the flash drives we now have. Billy Maynard - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:55 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Well, that is fascinating. I'll definitely be monitoring this. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 8:26 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: It is a KickStarter project which just got funded. They are projecting a September fulfilment time, so it will hopefully be sometime between September and December. They raised so much funds that I expect to see the product for sale generally by the beginning of next year. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 12:23, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: What??? There are sticks with lightning ports??? This is much nicer than I expected. Wow. Teresa, doing a happy dance Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:47 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. . But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing articles, recipes, information and such. When an email or webpage has information I might find useful in the future I copy the relevant info and quickly save it in my Dropbox folder. I have huge files of health articles, recipes, iDevice
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Wondrful!... this is getting better all the time. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 5:16 AM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? It is a flash drive with both an Apple certified Lightning connector and a standard USB connector. The company has also released, to the general market, a bluetooth drive port with USB ports for external drives. So, there are a couple ways available to store data from an iOS device that are personal rather than using a computer or the cloud. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 16:00, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote: what is this new thing? a flash drive that uses a different connector? I hate sounding like a uneducated person but, Not sure how this is different or better than the flash drives we now have. Billy Maynard - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:55 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Well, that is fascinating. I'll definitely be monitoring this. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 8:26 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: It is a KickStarter project which just got funded. They are projecting a September fulfilment time, so it will hopefully be sometime between September and December. They raised so much funds that I expect to see the product for sale generally by the beginning of next year. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 12:23, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: What??? There are sticks with lightning ports??? This is much nicer than I expected. Wow. Teresa, doing a happy dance Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:47 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. . But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing articles, recipes, information and such. When an email or webpage has information I might find useful in the future I copy the relevant info and quickly save it in my Dropbox
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Every system you ever learned was just as hard, at the time of learning, as this new conception is now. But, just think, you can always go back to the significantly more expensive and less full-featured AT products that tend to separate you from the sighted public. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 21:47, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I admire all this and thank you for describing it for us. We just don't like having to start over with the learning process having got comfortable with one already, but accept your accessibility comments seriously enough to make that effort. I'd still be happier if the means of importing and retaining legacy material, was clearer and better understood. Many thanks, RobH. Ps: though still a novice at this too, but dictation including voiced punctuation marking, seems to work pretty good now, better than I found it before. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:36 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? I use VoiceOver. My vision is limited to slightly better than light perception. What I do is slowly explore the screen, the same way a sighted person would do with vision. VO reads the text in the line under one's finger and places the read cursor either at the beginning or the end of the line, depending on the direction the finger is moving. I then use the rotor to select words for moving quickly through the line, and characters for specific editing (when not using my braille display). Even when using my braille display, however, I still use the touchscreen for reading and exploring. The touchscreen gives us the same two-dimensional experience that the sighted get, but to take full advantage of this, blind people must retrain our conceptions of how to function with the system. It is absolutely fascinating watching blind children, who only have positive training on iPads, navigate and work with the touchscreen. They do things that most of you regularly say are impossible, because they do not know any better. I wish more TVI's would train their kids the way a few excellent ones do. As for the app I use for my case notes: after experimenting with a few notes apps, I decided Apple Notes works well enough for my needs, and has the best guarantee of always working with the latest iOS (I always upgrade shortly after release), and will most probably always be VO accessible. after all, if Apple ceases its focus on universal accessibility in general and blindness accessibility in particular (considering Tim Cooks comments in April when challenged on this specific matter, considerably less likely than Jaws becoming a completely free program tomorrow), the entire system will become inaccessible anyway. Our medical office software is completely inaccessible, so we set up work-arounds for me. I email the complete notes file to our admin after each update. Admin copies my latest entry from the beginning of the file and pastes it into the patient's permanent record. This way, I maintain my complete client file in case I need to look up information, and only the most recent entry is added to the permanent record each time. When others update patient records in the system, and it is information relevant to my work, that person emails a copy of their entry to me and I paste it at the relevant place in my notes file. I separate each entry with a blank line, and type the date at the top of each entry. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 7:19, denise avant denise.av...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, What edit program are you using to write your case notes? If I may ask, are you relying on voiceover or can you see the screen? I am asking because it seems that the weakest part of the iPhone for blind users seems to be the text editors. Otherwise, all of the other components are fabulus. I use my iPhone, and sometimes the iPad for everything except for keeping long notes, and editing documents. On Jun 20, 2014, at 11:53 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I actually find Safari on my iPhone to be quicker to navigate than Safari on my Mac, or IE on an office PC. Then again, I use the touchscreen exclusively for navigating. I do all my email on my iPhone. I turn my MacBook Air on once or twice per week, currently. I write all my case notes for work, manage my calendars, perform much of my research, and do my initial paper writing, all on my iPhone. I plan to acquire an iPad when Touch-ID becomes available on it. I will keep a computer around, for now, mainly to back-up the iDevices. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email:
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Hunmnm,.. I didn't know this either, I have been in a dark place for a long time. Sorry, what I meant was - you can get at music and play it without hauling it through iTunes. This and the growing number of external storage solutions is making this more appealing all the time. RobH. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 6:01 AM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Yes, but Apple is under agreements with music labels that they will not do this with their music app. So, you need to use one of the many third-party music apps available on the App Store. I have a couple which are pretty good. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 16:55, Gerardo Corripio gera1...@gmail.com wrote: But you would still need ITunes to transfer data I imagine? it'd be great if they'd have maybe two paths to transfer: ITunes, and via regular USB! El 20/06/2014 11:18 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel escribió: Billy, The flashdrive David referred to is made to work with iDevices and to plug directly into the Lightning port of an iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch. This would be of great value for people who would like to have access to data which does not fit on their iPhone or iPad. I believe the drive is designed with a regular USB connector so you can plug it into the computer, copy files to it and then plug it directly into your iDevice and access the files. Regards, Sieghardadditional data -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Billy Maynard Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 9:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? what is this new thing? a flash drive that uses a different connector? I hate sounding like a uneducated person but, Not sure how this is different or better than the flash drives we now have. Billy Maynard - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochranbatsfly...@me.com To:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:55 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Well, that is fascinating. I'll definitely be monitoring this. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 8:26 PM, David Chittendendchitten...@gmail.com wrote: It is a KickStarter project which just got funded. They are projecting a September fulfilment time, so it will hopefully be sometime between September and December. They raised so much funds that I expect to see the product for sale generally by the beginning of next year. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 12:23, Teresa Cochranbatsfly...@me.com wrote: What??? There are sticks with lightning ports??? This is much nicer than I expected. Wow. Teresa, doing a happy dance Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:47 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH.bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrienanagoose4...@gmail.com To:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re:
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We could live with it if the app was accessible. Better if existing file managers like Ubidisk and Phonedrive? could handle the external devices themselves. RobH. - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 6:06 AM Subject: RE: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? I imagine you would use some kind of file manager app that was made by the manufacturer of the flash drive. This could allow you to store and manage files including copying them to or from your device. The app could also allow you to play back media. I could be wrong, though. Grant -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio Sent: June 20, 2014 9:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? But you would still need ITunes to transfer data I imagine? it'd be great if they'd have maybe two paths to transfer: ITunes, and via regular USB! El 20/06/2014 11:18 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel escribió: Billy, The flashdrive David referred to is made to work with iDevices and to plug directly into the Lightning port of an iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch. This would be of great value for people who would like to have access to data which does not fit on their iPhone or iPad. I believe the drive is designed with a regular USB connector so you can plug it into the computer, copy files to it and then plug it directly into your iDevice and access the files. Regards, Sieghardadditional data -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Billy Maynard Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 9:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? what is this new thing? a flash drive that uses a different connector? I hate sounding like a uneducated person but, Not sure how this is different or better than the flash drives we now have. Billy Maynard - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochranbatsfly...@me.com To:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:55 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Well, that is fascinating. I'll definitely be monitoring this. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 8:26 PM, David Chittendendchitten...@gmail.com wrote: It is a KickStarter project which just got funded. They are projecting a September fulfilment time, so it will hopefully be sometime between September and December. They raised so much funds that I expect to see the product for sale generally by the beginning of next year. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 12:23, Teresa Cochranbatsfly...@me.com wrote: What??? There are sticks with lightning ports??? This is much nicer than I expected. Wow. Teresa, doing a happy dance Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:47 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH.bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrienanagoose4...@gmail.com To:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If
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Apparently, the biggest problem with solid-state memory is the controller. The memory is estimated to last 60,000 rewrite cycles before starting to fail, which is significantly longer than HD technology. What fails is the memory allocation controller. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 22:09, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: True, but deterioration rates should be less, and each transfer effectively refreshes the data to full strength. True, a glitch could also proliferate at each re-write. A new copy is only as good as the old one. So taking a new copy sooner to minimise the degradation of the old one. I don't even understand the physics behind what holds memory in modern ss materials, so not sure how well its degradation process is understood and calculated yet. We are still looking for the ultimate in really permanent memory. Apple could really score big if they floated something like that. Bio-memory or atomic level storageI've not heard of the latest ideas for a hwile now. RobH. - Original Message - From: Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 11:47 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? David, actually, your current hard drive has the same type of magnetic surface as your previous floppies and is also susceptible to data rot, so you might want to reconsider how you're storing such old data. A hard disk drive platter (or disk) is the circular disk on which magnetic data is stored in a hard disk drive. The rigid nature of the platters in a hard drive is what gives them their name (as opposed to the flexible materials which are used to make floppy disk). Hard drives typically have several platters which are mounted on the same spindle. A platter can store information on both sides, requiring two heads per platter. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 2:47 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. . But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing articles, recipes, information and such. When an email or webpage has information I might find useful in the future I copy the relevant info and quickly save it in
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Oh, and that is 60,000 cycles per sector. If I remember correctly, the magneto layer on the HD platter is between 10,000 and 20,000 read/write cycles per sector. However, the highspeed spinning actually slowly causes magnetic layer degradation. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 22:09, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: True, but deterioration rates should be less, and each transfer effectively refreshes the data to full strength. True, a glitch could also proliferate at each re-write. A new copy is only as good as the old one. So taking a new copy sooner to minimise the degradation of the old one. I don't even understand the physics behind what holds memory in modern ss materials, so not sure how well its degradation process is understood and calculated yet. We are still looking for the ultimate in really permanent memory. Apple could really score big if they floated something like that. Bio-memory or atomic level storageI've not heard of the latest ideas for a hwile now. RobH. - Original Message - From: Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 11:47 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? David, actually, your current hard drive has the same type of magnetic surface as your previous floppies and is also susceptible to data rot, so you might want to reconsider how you're storing such old data. A hard disk drive platter (or disk) is the circular disk on which magnetic data is stored in a hard disk drive. The rigid nature of the platters in a hard drive is what gives them their name (as opposed to the flexible materials which are used to make floppy disk). Hard drives typically have several platters which are mounted on the same spindle. A platter can store information on both sides, requiring two heads per platter. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 2:47 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. . But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing articles, recipes, information and such. When an email or webpage has information I might find useful in the future I copy the relevant info and quickly save it in my
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We will see what happens with iOS 8. Apple refuses to sacrifice security, and given the nature and extreme portability of the iPhone, I personally agree with their approach. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 22:33, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: We could live with it if the app was accessible. Better if existing file managers like Ubidisk and Phonedrive? could handle the external devices themselves. RobH. - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 6:06 AM Subject: RE: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? I imagine you would use some kind of file manager app that was made by the manufacturer of the flash drive. This could allow you to store and manage files including copying them to or from your device. The app could also allow you to play back media. I could be wrong, though. Grant -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio Sent: June 20, 2014 9:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? But you would still need ITunes to transfer data I imagine? it'd be great if they'd have maybe two paths to transfer: ITunes, and via regular USB! El 20/06/2014 11:18 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel escribió: Billy, The flashdrive David referred to is made to work with iDevices and to plug directly into the Lightning port of an iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch. This would be of great value for people who would like to have access to data which does not fit on their iPhone or iPad. I believe the drive is designed with a regular USB connector so you can plug it into the computer, copy files to it and then plug it directly into your iDevice and access the files. Regards, Sieghardadditional data -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Billy Maynard Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 9:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? what is this new thing? a flash drive that uses a different connector? I hate sounding like a uneducated person but, Not sure how this is different or better than the flash drives we now have. Billy Maynard - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochranbatsfly...@me.com To:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:55 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Well, that is fascinating. I'll definitely be monitoring this. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 8:26 PM, David Chittendendchitten...@gmail.com wrote: It is a KickStarter project which just got funded. They are projecting a September fulfilment time, so it will hopefully be sometime between September and December. They raised so much funds that I expect to see the product for sale generally by the beginning of next year. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 12:23, Teresa Cochranbatsfly...@me.com wrote: What??? There are sticks with lightning ports??? This is much nicer than I expected. Wow. Teresa, doing a happy dance Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:47 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH.bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far
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Hard drive sectors can be written over up to 300,000 times on spinning hard drives which are not even considered enterprise drives but are considered good drives such as the Western Digital Black series. http://media.webcollage.net/rwvfp/wc/live/13689131/module/wdc/products.wdc.com/library/SpecSheet/ENG/2879-771434.pdf?action=download-resourcecaption=Drive%20Specification%20Sheet%20(PDF)a=d Joseph - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 3:36 AM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Apparently, the biggest problem with solid-state memory is the controller. The memory is estimated to last 60,000 rewrite cycles before starting to fail, which is significantly longer than HD technology. What fails is the memory allocation controller. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 22:09, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: True, but deterioration rates should be less, and each transfer effectively refreshes the data to full strength. True, a glitch could also proliferate at each re-write. A new copy is only as good as the old one. So taking a new copy sooner to minimise the degradation of the old one. I don't even understand the physics behind what holds memory in modern ss materials, so not sure how well its degradation process is understood and calculated yet. We are still looking for the ultimate in really permanent memory. Apple could really score big if they floated something like that. Bio-memory or atomic level storageI've not heard of the latest ideas for a hwile now. RobH. - Original Message - From: Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 11:47 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? David, actually, your current hard drive has the same type of magnetic surface as your previous floppies and is also susceptible to data rot, so you might want to reconsider how you're storing such old data. A hard disk drive platter (or disk) is the circular disk on which magnetic data is stored in a hard disk drive. The rigid nature of the platters in a hard drive is what gives them their name (as opposed to the flexible materials which are used to make floppy disk). Hard drives typically have several platters which are mounted on the same spindle. A platter can store information on both sides, requiring two heads per platter. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 2:47 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for
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Maybe older hard drives, but this is no longer the case and hasn't been for years. New drives can run healthily for some 11 years max--under special conditions of course. I believe it was Google who released a paper some time ago stating that the average life of their spinning hard drives was 5 years. This is not of course the 11 years I stated, but you've gotta consider that Google's hard drives are constantly moving whereas one's personal computer's hard drives at times can spin down at operating system's will as well as falling asleep altogether. In short, if you buy a quality drive you can expect it to last quite a few years--I've only had 1 drive of about 20 die on me, and strangely enough, it was Western Digital's top performing drive, their Velociraptor drive series. I called Western digital and a brand new drive was delivered overnight--I was actually really impressed. Smile. Joseph - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 3:42 AM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Oh, and that is 60,000 cycles per sector. If I remember correctly, the magneto layer on the HD platter is between 10,000 and 20,000 read/write cycles per sector. However, the highspeed spinning actually slowly causes magnetic layer degradation. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 22:09, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: True, but deterioration rates should be less, and each transfer effectively refreshes the data to full strength. True, a glitch could also proliferate at each re-write. A new copy is only as good as the old one. So taking a new copy sooner to minimise the degradation of the old one. I don't even understand the physics behind what holds memory in modern ss materials, so not sure how well its degradation process is understood and calculated yet. We are still looking for the ultimate in really permanent memory. Apple could really score big if they floated something like that. Bio-memory or atomic level storageI've not heard of the latest ideas for a hwile now. RobH. - Original Message - From: Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 11:47 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? David, actually, your current hard drive has the same type of magnetic surface as your previous floppies and is also susceptible to data rot, so you might want to reconsider how you're storing such old data. A hard disk drive platter (or disk) is the circular disk on which magnetic data is stored in a hard disk drive. The rigid nature of the platters in a hard drive is what gives them their name (as opposed to the flexible materials which are used to make floppy disk). Hard drives typically have several platters which are mounted on the same spindle. A platter can store information on both sides, requiring two heads per platter. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 2:47 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To:
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Thank you, I forgot the proper number of zeros. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 23:02, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: Hard drive sectors can be written over up to 300,000 times on spinning hard drives which are not even considered enterprise drives but are considered good drives such as the Western Digital Black series. http://media.webcollage.net/rwvfp/wc/live/13689131/module/wdc/products.wdc.com/library/SpecSheet/ENG/2879-771434.pdf?action=download-resourcecaption=Drive%20Specification%20Sheet%20(PDF)a=d Joseph - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 3:36 AM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Apparently, the biggest problem with solid-state memory is the controller. The memory is estimated to last 60,000 rewrite cycles before starting to fail, which is significantly longer than HD technology. What fails is the memory allocation controller. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 22:09, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: True, but deterioration rates should be less, and each transfer effectively refreshes the data to full strength. True, a glitch could also proliferate at each re-write. A new copy is only as good as the old one. So taking a new copy sooner to minimise the degradation of the old one. I don't even understand the physics behind what holds memory in modern ss materials, so not sure how well its degradation process is understood and calculated yet. We are still looking for the ultimate in really permanent memory. Apple could really score big if they floated something like that. Bio-memory or atomic level storageI've not heard of the latest ideas for a hwile now. RobH. - Original Message - From: Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 11:47 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? David, actually, your current hard drive has the same type of magnetic surface as your previous floppies and is also susceptible to data rot, so you might want to reconsider how you're storing such old data. A hard disk drive platter (or disk) is the circular disk on which magnetic data is stored in a hard disk drive. The rigid nature of the platters in a hard drive is what gives them their name (as opposed to the flexible materials which are used to make floppy disk). Hard drives typically have several platters which are mounted on the same spindle. A platter can store information on both sides, requiring two heads per platter. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 2:47 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted
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Thanks for the thoughts and discussion. This thread is great. Random musing: I can only think of one thing I would miss about the computer at this point: being able to transfer files to and from my ancient Braille Lite 40, which still works just fine, and has a long battery life. (Speaking of technology for the blind that is expentive :) I'm entirely all for using standard technology. However, my BL40 is the exception that proves the rule. I still have the serial-transfer software on my backup drive. This might have been a deal-breaker before NLS Bard came out, and I could read Braille books on iOS. Still gives me pause. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 21, 2014, at 4:13 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, I forgot the proper number of zeros. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 23:02, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: Hard drive sectors can be written over up to 300,000 times on spinning hard drives which are not even considered enterprise drives but are considered good drives such as the Western Digital Black series. http://media.webcollage.net/rwvfp/wc/live/13689131/module/wdc/products.wdc.com/library/SpecSheet/ENG/2879-771434.pdf?action=download-resourcecaption=Drive%20Specification%20Sheet%20(PDF)a=d Joseph - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 3:36 AM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Apparently, the biggest problem with solid-state memory is the controller. The memory is estimated to last 60,000 rewrite cycles before starting to fail, which is significantly longer than HD technology. What fails is the memory allocation controller. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 22:09, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: True, but deterioration rates should be less, and each transfer effectively refreshes the data to full strength. True, a glitch could also proliferate at each re-write. A new copy is only as good as the old one. So taking a new copy sooner to minimise the degradation of the old one. I don't even understand the physics behind what holds memory in modern ss materials, so not sure how well its degradation process is understood and calculated yet. We are still looking for the ultimate in really permanent memory. Apple could really score big if they floated something like that. Bio-memory or atomic level storageI've not heard of the latest ideas for a hwile now. RobH. - Original Message - From: Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 11:47 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? David, actually, your current hard drive has the same type of magnetic surface as your previous floppies and is also susceptible to data rot, so you might want to reconsider how you're storing such old data. A hard disk drive platter (or disk) is the circular disk on which magnetic data is stored in a hard disk drive. The rigid nature of the platters in a hard drive is what gives them their name (as opposed to the flexible materials which are used to make floppy disk). Hard drives typically have several platters which are mounted on the same spindle. A platter can store information on both sides, requiring two heads per platter. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 2:47 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is
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Can you access the data on the sd card from the ipad? Such as music, audio books etc.? On 6/21/2014 3:23 AM, RobH. wrote: A means to plug external memory products to your iDevice. Like I said a bit back, She got an Adapter off Apple themselves over here, which is a little thing with the Lightening connector plug, less than 3inches of cable, then a wide bit on the end, about the shape of the old connector, bigger, with a slot to take the SD card. £15, so $25 max, plus your own SD cards of course. A pen drive with the Lightening connector on already is a good step forward. Hope they remember the short flex to minimise risk to connector ports on the device though. - Original Message - From: Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 5:00 AM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? what is this new thing? a flash drive that uses a different connector? I hate sounding like a uneducated person but, Not sure how this is different or better than the flash drives we now have. Billy Maynard - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:55 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Well, that is fascinating. I'll definitely be monitoring this. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 8:26 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: It is a KickStarter project which just got funded. They are projecting a September fulfilment time, so it will hopefully be sometime between September and December. They raised so much funds that I expect to see the product for sale generally by the beginning of next year. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 12:23, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: What??? There are sticks with lightning ports??? This is much nicer than I expected. Wow. Teresa, doing a happy dance Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:47 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. . But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing articles, recipes, information and such. When an email or webpage has information I might find useful in the future I copy the relevant info and quickly save it in my Dropbox folder. I have huge files of health
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For saving and reading backup, these figures are overkill impressive, but SS is getting into mainstream drives and having to cope with being virtual memory for swapping in and out by the system. In that circumstance, I don't think that would amount to anything so impressive in running time if it was declared. The fastest general drives are proportional hybrids of the two technologies. - Original Message - From: Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 12:02 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hard drive sectors can be written over up to 300,000 times on spinning hard drives which are not even considered enterprise drives but are considered good drives such as the Western Digital Black series. http://media.webcollage.net/rwvfp/wc/live/13689131/module/wdc/products.wdc.com/library/SpecSheet/ENG/2879-771434.pdf?action=download-resourcecaption=Drive%20Specification%20Sheet%20(PDF)a=d Joseph - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 3:36 AM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Apparently, the biggest problem with solid-state memory is the controller. The memory is estimated to last 60,000 rewrite cycles before starting to fail, which is significantly longer than HD technology. What fails is the memory allocation controller. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 22:09, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: True, but deterioration rates should be less, and each transfer effectively refreshes the data to full strength. True, a glitch could also proliferate at each re-write. A new copy is only as good as the old one. So taking a new copy sooner to minimise the degradation of the old one. I don't even understand the physics behind what holds memory in modern ss materials, so not sure how well its degradation process is understood and calculated yet. We are still looking for the ultimate in really permanent memory. Apple could really score big if they floated something like that. Bio-memory or atomic level storageI've not heard of the latest ideas for a hwile now. RobH. - Original Message - From: Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 11:47 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? David, actually, your current hard drive has the same type of magnetic surface as your previous floppies and is also susceptible to data rot, so you might want to reconsider how you're storing such old data. A hard disk drive platter (or disk) is the circular disk on which magnetic data is stored in a hard disk drive. The rigid nature of the platters in a hard drive is what gives them their name (as opposed to the flexible materials which are used to make floppy disk). Hard drives typically have several platters which are mounted on the same spindle. A platter can store information on both sides, requiring two heads per platter. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 2:47 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all
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Oh fond memories, the old BnS 200 was my best bit of kit for noting and looking them up. Flick it on, boot up in seconds, do my thing, flick it off. Used to go months without use and still work. But battery died eventually, and longer before I chased doing anything about it. It's over 20 now and should be given a decent burial. But,and something I gripe about too often maybe, the editing, searching and navigation even on that relatively crude device, was still more efficient than anything I do on idevice yet. I had it for university, cost £1200 or so around 1991. RobH. - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 1:17 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Thanks for the thoughts and discussion. This thread is great. Random musing: I can only think of one thing I would miss about the computer at this point: being able to transfer files to and from my ancient Braille Lite 40, which still works just fine, and has a long battery life. (Speaking of technology for the blind that is expentive :) I'm entirely all for using standard technology. However, my BL40 is the exception that proves the rule. I still have the serial-transfer software on my backup drive. This might have been a deal-breaker before NLS Bard came out, and I could read Braille books on iOS. Still gives me pause. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 21, 2014, at 4:13 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, I forgot the proper number of zeros. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 23:02, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: Hard drive sectors can be written over up to 300,000 times on spinning hard drives which are not even considered enterprise drives but are considered good drives such as the Western Digital Black series. http://media.webcollage.net/rwvfp/wc/live/13689131/module/wdc/products.wdc.com/library/SpecSheet/ENG/2879-771434.pdf?action=download-resourcecaption=Drive%20Specification%20Sheet%20(PDF)a=d Joseph - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 3:36 AM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Apparently, the biggest problem with solid-state memory is the controller. The memory is estimated to last 60,000 rewrite cycles before starting to fail, which is significantly longer than HD technology. What fails is the memory allocation controller. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 22:09, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: True, but deterioration rates should be less, and each transfer effectively refreshes the data to full strength. True, a glitch could also proliferate at each re-write. A new copy is only as good as the old one. So taking a new copy sooner to minimise the degradation of the old one. I don't even understand the physics behind what holds memory in modern ss materials, so not sure how well its degradation process is understood and calculated yet. We are still looking for the ultimate in really permanent memory. Apple could really score big if they floated something like that. Bio-memory or atomic level storageI've not heard of the latest ideas for a hwile now. RobH. - Original Message - From: Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 11:47 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? David, actually, your current hard drive has the same type of magnetic surface as your previous floppies and is also susceptible to data rot, so you might want to reconsider how you're storing such old data. A hard disk drive platter (or disk) is the circular disk on which magnetic data is stored in a hard disk drive. The rigid nature of the platters in a hard drive is what gives them their name (as opposed to the flexible materials which are used to make floppy disk). Hard drives typically have several platters which are mounted on the same spindle. A platter can store information on both sides, requiring two heads per platter. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 2:47 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one
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That's what Mrs is doing, she has outdoor auto-cameras on time-lapse or motion-sense and full IR night capability; these feed pics and video onto SD cards. She gathers the cards in and looks at the new wildlife footage on her iPad mini. - Original Message - From: Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 2:45 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Can you access the data on the sd card from the ipad? Such as music, audio books etc.? On 6/21/2014 3:23 AM, RobH. wrote: A means to plug external memory products to your iDevice. Like I said a bit back, She got an Adapter off Apple themselves over here, which is a little thing with the Lightening connector plug, less than 3inches of cable, then a wide bit on the end, about the shape of the old connector, bigger, with a slot to take the SD card. £15, so $25 max, plus your own SD cards of course. A pen drive with the Lightening connector on already is a good step forward. Hope they remember the short flex to minimise risk to connector ports on the device though. - Original Message - From: Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 5:00 AM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? what is this new thing? a flash drive that uses a different connector? I hate sounding like a uneducated person but, Not sure how this is different or better than the flash drives we now have. Billy Maynard - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:55 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Well, that is fascinating. I'll definitely be monitoring this. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 8:26 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: It is a KickStarter project which just got funded. They are projecting a September fulfilment time, so it will hopefully be sometime between September and December. They raised so much funds that I expect to see the product for sale generally by the beginning of next year. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 12:23, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: What??? There are sticks with lightning ports??? This is much nicer than I expected. Wow. Teresa, doing a happy dance Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:47 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at
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There's also the Kingston MobileLite Wireless, is a piece of hardware that can accept USB sticks or SD or microSD cards that connects to your iPhone via WiFi. You access files on the media put into the MobileLite through the MobileLite app. Apart from some VO focus issues and some poorly though still usable button labels, the app is decent. The drive also features the ability to connect to the Internet through another Wi-Fi network, while playing your media over its own Wi-Fi network. I think you would call the network the MobileLite creates an ad hoc network, but don't quote me on that. Anyhow, I have the MobileLite, and like it quite a bit. Thanks, Ari On Jun 21, 2014, at 6:48 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: We will see what happens with iOS 8. Apple refuses to sacrifice security, and given the nature and extreme portability of the iPhone, I personally agree with their approach. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 22:33, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: We could live with it if the app was accessible. Better if existing file managers like Ubidisk and Phonedrive? could handle the external devices themselves. RobH. - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 6:06 AM Subject: RE: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? I imagine you would use some kind of file manager app that was made by the manufacturer of the flash drive. This could allow you to store and manage files including copying them to or from your device. The app could also allow you to play back media. I could be wrong, though. Grant -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio Sent: June 20, 2014 9:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? But you would still need ITunes to transfer data I imagine? it'd be great if they'd have maybe two paths to transfer: ITunes, and via regular USB! El 20/06/2014 11:18 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel escribió: Billy, The flashdrive David referred to is made to work with iDevices and to plug directly into the Lightning port of an iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch. This would be of great value for people who would like to have access to data which does not fit on their iPhone or iPad. I believe the drive is designed with a regular USB connector so you can plug it into the computer, copy files to it and then plug it directly into your iDevice and access the files. Regards, Sieghardadditional data -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Billy Maynard Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 9:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? what is this new thing? a flash drive that uses a different connector? I hate sounding like a uneducated person but, Not sure how this is different or better than the flash drives we now have. Billy Maynard - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochranbatsfly...@me.com To:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:55 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Well, that is fascinating. I'll definitely be monitoring this. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 8:26 PM, David Chittendendchitten...@gmail.com wrote: It is a KickStarter project which just got funded. They are projecting a September fulfilment time, so it will hopefully be sometime between September and December. They raised so much funds that I expect to see the product for sale generally by the beginning of next year. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 12:23, Teresa Cochranbatsfly...@me.com wrote: What??? There are sticks with lightning ports??? This is much nicer than I expected. Wow. Teresa, doing a happy dance Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:47 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a
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Sandy, I've been using idevices, and on lists about them for just over three years, and I've never heard of this. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean it's not possible, but it's the sort of thing I'd probably have heard of if it was. Cheers Alex -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sandratomkins Sent: 20 June 2014 10:31 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, I may be wrong here: but I am under the impression you can plug USB drives into your router and then upload data to those drives from your IOS device. Perhaps, someone here may know more about this… Interested, Sandy Sent from my iPhone On 19 Jun 2014, at 16:57, 'David Goldfield' via VIPhone viphone@googlegroups.com wrote: For me, the real issue with using an iOS device as my only computer would be how data can and can't be backed up. I know there are online backup services but I'd like to be able to back up data onto thumb drives. Also, while my iPhone is now my primary book player, I'd still like the option of plugging in my thumb drive to my NLS player and there seems to be no easy way to transfer iPhone content to a thumb drive. I know, my mindset is so 2010 but I like being able to easily make offline, local backups. David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator, Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.davidgoldfield.info/ Teresa Cochran wrote: I certainly wouldn't use an iPad if the virtual keyboard was the only input option and I had to turn the rotor to edit mode. Cheryl, thanks for your thoughts. It does also look to me as if mobile devices are the wave of the future. They aren't there yet, but they will be very soon. I rarely do Braille translation, but that definitely is a consideration. As for MS WORD, everybody sit down for a minute and hope not to be shocked. I haven't used it in five years. Being a Mac user, it was irrelevant, except for viewing Word documents. Ok, you can breathe now. grin. In fact, before I got a Mac, I used Word Perfect. Oh, forgot to warn you all again. LOL Teresa Winging its way from my iPod On Jun 19, 2014, at 6:58 AM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com mailto:cah4...@icloud.com wrote: Hmm, I don't find taking down a quick note to be trouble. I guess it's all in what you are used to; I do have braille and that probably helps. But if by turning on edit mode you mean double-tapping the text field, I don't find that to be trouble myself. But it would be a boring and rather uncreative world if we all thought alike about these things. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jun 18, 2014, at 8:51 PM, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com mailto:joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: Writing is going to be a bit of a headache since you will have to turn on the edit mode on the iPad whenever you need to type text. Someone typed up an article regarding best apps for text entry, and I ran a quick search for you and did not find it, but the article is definitely on the AppleVis website. Since the experience on the iPad will for the most part be the same as your iPod, try quickly launching a text editing word processor type of app and quickly taking down a Note, and you will find it is more trouble than one would want to go through when taking down a quick Note or writing lengthy documents. I got along much better when I changed my mindset and concluded iOS devices are better used as consumption devices rather than production tools. I have carpeting and have had a cat for some 10 years, and this has not been a significant problem for me though my desktop is on cat level--the floor. Not challenging your personal experience, just stating that maybe my shaggy carpet and fluffy cat don't produce as much lint and stuff that gets caught in computer filters. Joseph - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com mailto:batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:37 PM Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only
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Hello Teresa, I would recommend you get a iPad mini if that suits your needs. It is a good device. I also have a iPad mini and are you for the following gate some music, texting, and so much more. Comes very useful for my needs. Sent from my iPad On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:37 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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HI. where are the blue tooth drives available from? Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 21 Jun 2014, at 2:16 pm, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: It is a flash drive with both an Apple certified Lightning connector and a standard USB connector. The company has also released, to the general market, a bluetooth drive port with USB ports for external drives. So, there are a couple ways available to store data from an iOS device that are personal rather than using a computer or the cloud. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 16:00, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote: what is this new thing? a flash drive that uses a different connector? I hate sounding like a uneducated person but, Not sure how this is different or better than the flash drives we now have. Billy Maynard - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:55 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Well, that is fascinating. I'll definitely be monitoring this. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 8:26 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: It is a KickStarter project which just got funded. They are projecting a September fulfilment time, so it will hopefully be sometime between September and December. They raised so much funds that I expect to see the product for sale generally by the beginning of next year. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 12:23, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: What??? There are sticks with lightning ports??? This is much nicer than I expected. Wow. Teresa, doing a happy dance Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:47 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. . But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing articles, recipes, information and such. When an email or webpage has information I might find useful in the future I copy the relevant info and quickly save it in my Dropbox folder. I have huge files of health articles, recipes, iDevice information,
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Actually, it is a bluetooth drive connector. One must acquire the external USB drive separately. I will find the information and send it. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jun 2014, at 16:34, Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote: HI. where are the blue tooth drives available from? Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 21 Jun 2014, at 2:16 pm, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: It is a flash drive with both an Apple certified Lightning connector and a standard USB connector. The company has also released, to the general market, a bluetooth drive port with USB ports for external drives. So, there are a couple ways available to store data from an iOS device that are personal rather than using a computer or the cloud. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 16:00, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote: what is this new thing? a flash drive that uses a different connector? I hate sounding like a uneducated person but, Not sure how this is different or better than the flash drives we now have. Billy Maynard - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:55 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Well, that is fascinating. I'll definitely be monitoring this. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 8:26 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: It is a KickStarter project which just got funded. They are projecting a September fulfilment time, so it will hopefully be sometime between September and December. They raised so much funds that I expect to see the product for sale generally by the beginning of next year. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 12:23, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: What??? There are sticks with lightning ports??? This is much nicer than I expected. Wow. Teresa, doing a happy dance Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:47 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or
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HI. thank you. this is the first time Ive heard of anything like this. Warm regards and blessings Maria, Joe and FurBabies Email: iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 22 Jun 2014, at 2:39 pm, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, it is a bluetooth drive connector. One must acquire the external USB drive separately. I will find the information and send it. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jun 2014, at 16:34, Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote: HI. where are the blue tooth drives available from? Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 21 Jun 2014, at 2:16 pm, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: It is a flash drive with both an Apple certified Lightning connector and a standard USB connector. The company has also released, to the general market, a bluetooth drive port with USB ports for external drives. So, there are a couple ways available to store data from an iOS device that are personal rather than using a computer or the cloud. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 16:00, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote: what is this new thing? a flash drive that uses a different connector? I hate sounding like a uneducated person but, Not sure how this is different or better than the flash drives we now have. Billy Maynard - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:55 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Well, that is fascinating. I'll definitely be monitoring this. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 8:26 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: It is a KickStarter project which just got funded. They are projecting a September fulfilment time, so it will hopefully be sometime between September and December. They raised so much funds that I expect to see the product for sale generally by the beginning of next year. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 12:23, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: What??? There are sticks with lightning ports??? This is much nicer than I expected. Wow. Teresa, doing a happy dance Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:47 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but
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Hi, I may be wrong here: but I am under the impression you can plug USB drives into your router and then upload data to those drives from your IOS device. Perhaps, someone here may know more about this… Interested, Sandy Sent from my iPhone On 19 Jun 2014, at 16:57, 'David Goldfield' via VIPhone viphone@googlegroups.com wrote: For me, the real issue with using an iOS device as my only computer would be how data can and can't be backed up. I know there are online backup services but I'd like to be able to back up data onto thumb drives. Also, while my iPhone is now my primary book player, I'd still like the option of plugging in my thumb drive to my NLS player and there seems to be no easy way to transfer iPhone content to a thumb drive. I know, my mindset is so 2010 but I like being able to easily make offline, local backups. David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator, Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.davidgoldfield.info/ Teresa Cochran wrote: I certainly wouldn't use an iPad if the virtual keyboard was the only input option and I had to turn the rotor to edit mode. Cheryl, thanks for your thoughts. It does also look to me as if mobile devices are the wave of the future. They aren't there yet, but they will be very soon. I rarely do Braille translation, but that definitely is a consideration. As for MS WORD, everybody sit down for a minute and hope not to be shocked. I haven't used it in five years. Being a Mac user, it was irrelevant, except for viewing Word documents. Ok, you can breathe now. grin. In fact, before I got a Mac, I used Word Perfect. Oh, forgot to warn you all again. LOL Teresa Winging its way from my iPod On Jun 19, 2014, at 6:58 AM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com mailto:cah4...@icloud.com wrote: Hmm, I don't find taking down a quick note to be trouble. I guess it's all in what you are used to; I do have braille and that probably helps. But if by turning on edit mode you mean double-tapping the text field, I don't find that to be trouble myself. But it would be a boring and rather uncreative world if we all thought alike about these things. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jun 18, 2014, at 8:51 PM, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com mailto:joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: Writing is going to be a bit of a headache since you will have to turn on the edit mode on the iPad whenever you need to type text. Someone typed up an article regarding best apps for text entry, and I ran a quick search for you and did not find it, but the article is definitely on the AppleVis website. Since the experience on the iPad will for the most part be the same as your iPod, try quickly launching a text editing word processor type of app and quickly taking down a Note, and you will find it is more trouble than one would want to go through when taking down a quick Note or writing lengthy documents. I got along much better when I changed my mindset and concluded iOS devices are better used as consumption devices rather than production tools. I have carpeting and have had a cat for some 10 years, and this has not been a significant problem for me though my desktop is on cat level--the floor. Not challenging your personal experience, just stating that maybe my shaggy carpet and fluffy cat don't produce as much lint and stuff that gets caught in computer filters. Joseph - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com mailto:batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:37 PM Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal
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i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. . But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing articles, recipes, information and such. When an email or webpage has information I might find useful in the future I copy the relevant info and quickly save it in my Dropbox folder. I have huge files of health articles, recipes, iDevice information, computer and Jaws info, and tons of other stuff. I have not figured out how to quickly (or slowly for that matter) copy items from the web or email on my IOS device and save them in my files for future reference. Another thing the Windows laptop can do is handle certain functions on Facebook that I can't do with the regular Facebook app.I also agree with the person who mentioned the ability to use USB memory sticks for the NLS readers and other backup purposes. I use my iPhone to listen to books during the day but find my NLS player easier for night listening. If you need a new computer you can get a budget laptop for less than an iPad and then you have the best of both worlds. just my biased opinion... Sherrie Gosling -Original Message- From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I actually find Safari on my iPhone to be quicker to navigate than Safari on my Mac, or IE on an office PC. Then again, I use the touchscreen exclusively for navigating. I do all my email on my iPhone. I turn my MacBook Air on once or twice per week, currently. I write all my case notes for work, manage my calendars, perform much of my research, and do my initial paper writing, all on my iPhone. I plan to acquire an iPad when Touch-ID becomes available on it. I will keep a computer around, for now, mainly to back-up the iDevices. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 3:38, Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com wrote: i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. . But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing articles, recipes, information and such. When an email or webpage has information I might find useful in the future I copy the relevant info and quickly save it in my Dropbox folder. I have huge files of health articles, recipes, iDevice information, computer and Jaws info, and tons of other stuff. I have not figured out how to quickly (or slowly for that matter) copy items from the web or email on my IOS device and save them in my files for future reference. Another thing the Windows laptop can do is handle certain functions on Facebook that I can't do with the regular Facebook app.I also agree with the person who mentioned the ability to use USB memory sticks for the NLS readers and other backup purposes. I use my iPhone to listen to books during the day but find my NLS player easier for night listening. If you need a new computer you can get a budget laptop for less than an iPad and then you have the best of both worlds. just my biased opinion... Sherrie Gosling -Original Message- From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you
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I had one of those devices before, I just could not work with the iPad mini in the landscape position, seemed that everything tried to open before I could even touch it, have a Logitech BT keyboard for mine now and it works great, or did until it seems everything in my house seems to not want to work these days. Rose Combs roseco...@q.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 1:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? There are cases out there which let you put an iPad in a holder on the top. It then looks like a laptop with the iPad laying sideways. Mine has the home button to the right. Then there is a QWERTY style keyboard on the lower half and the two halves close like a laptop. The connection of the keyboard to the iPad is made through Bluetooth paring. Mine connects and disconnects so that the rechargeable keyboard lasts about 2 weeks worth of typing but I get a lot of email. It only takes 3 hours to recharge from a totally dead battery to a fully charged one. The charging cable comes with the keyboard case. There are cases for all iPads being sold today. I like the iPad Air with WI-FI and cellular and my Air has 128 GGB of storage. If you rarely travel then you can just get the WI-FI only model assuming of course you own a wireless router at home. It isn't to hard to find free WI-FI and it's as close as that mall we've talked about. I keep my music collection on my iPad and the Bard reading app. NLS Talking Books sound much better when heard on an iPad Air then on an iPhone 5s. Sorry this is probably longer then you would of liked it! On the other hand, you already I can be talkative! LOL! HTH Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:37 PM Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit
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Hi Rose; I can't imagine how difficult it is for you. Here is our phone number: (856) 885-1730 If you have any iPhone or equipment problems, please call me. I know it can be frustrating to wait for an answer from the list. With Warmest Regards Anthony y Sent from my iPhone 5s! On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: I had one of those devices before, I just could not work with the iPad mini in the landscape position, seemed that everything tried to open before I could even touch it, have a Logitech BT keyboard for mine now and it works great, or did until it seems everything in my house seems to not want to work these days. Rose Combs roseco...@q.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 1:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? There are cases out there which let you put an iPad in a holder on the top. It then looks like a laptop with the iPad laying sideways. Mine has the home button to the right. Then there is a QWERTY style keyboard on the lower half and the two halves close like a laptop. The connection of the keyboard to the iPad is made through Bluetooth paring. Mine connects and disconnects so that the rechargeable keyboard lasts about 2 weeks worth of typing but I get a lot of email. It only takes 3 hours to recharge from a totally dead battery to a fully charged one. The charging cable comes with the keyboard case. There are cases for all iPads being sold today. I like the iPad Air with WI-FI and cellular and my Air has 128 GGB of storage. If you rarely travel then you can just get the WI-FI only model assuming of course you own a wireless router at home. It isn't to hard to find free WI-FI and it's as close as that mall we've talked about. I keep my music collection on my iPad and the Bard reading app. NLS Talking Books sound much better when heard on an iPad Air then on an iPhone 5s. Sorry this is probably longer then you would of liked it! On the other hand, you already I can be talkative! LOL! HTH Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:37 PM Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can
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Hi David, What edit program are you using to write your case notes? If I may ask, are you relying on voiceover or can you see the screen? I am asking because it seems that the weakest part of the iPhone for blind users seems to be the text editors. Otherwise, all of the other components are fabulus. I use my iPhone, and sometimes the iPad for everything except for keeping long notes, and editing documents. On Jun 20, 2014, at 11:53 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I actually find Safari on my iPhone to be quicker to navigate than Safari on my Mac, or IE on an office PC. Then again, I use the touchscreen exclusively for navigating. I do all my email on my iPhone. I turn my MacBook Air on once or twice per week, currently. I write all my case notes for work, manage my calendars, perform much of my research, and do my initial paper writing, all on my iPhone. I plan to acquire an iPad when Touch-ID becomes available on it. I will keep a computer around, for now, mainly to back-up the iDevices. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 3:38, Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com wrote: i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. . But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing articles, recipes, information and such. When an email or webpage has information I might find useful in the future I copy the relevant info and quickly save it in my Dropbox folder. I have huge files of health articles, recipes, iDevice information, computer and Jaws info, and tons of other stuff. I have not figured out how to quickly (or slowly for that matter) copy items from the web or email on my IOS device and save them in my files for future reference. Another thing the Windows laptop can do is handle certain functions on Facebook that I can't do with the regular Facebook app.I also agree with the person who mentioned the ability to use USB memory sticks for the NLS readers and other backup purposes. I use my iPhone to listen to books during the day but find my NLS player easier for night listening. If you need a new computer you can get a budget laptop for less than an iPad and then you have the best of both worlds. just my biased opinion... Sherrie Gosling -Original Message- From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring?
No calls right now, dealing with business oriented stuff, for the foreseeable future, and reluctant to trust since over the past weeks all help seems to create more problems than solutions, need to figure out what I will be responsible for paying, figure finances, where I am going if I am going etc. Minor things I could do with the iPhone and can't seem to accomplish today will eventually work out, have the books and do better reading than talking about most of it. Sorry if I seem ungrateful, but I just don't think at this particular time I would retain it unless it is under my fingers, just too many other things requiring attention, and still very intensely coping with loss. Only 3 weeks today, hope you understand. Maybe at a later time I will be willing to share phone numbers, but please forgive me not today. Rose Combs roseco...@q.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Vece Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 11:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi Rose; I can't imagine how difficult it is for you. Here is our phone number: (856) 885-1730 If you have any iPhone or equipment problems, please call me. I know it can be frustrating to wait for an answer from the list. With Warmest Regards Anthony y Sent from my iPhone 5s! On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: I had one of those devices before, I just could not work with the iPad mini in the landscape position, seemed that everything tried to open before I could even touch it, have a Logitech BT keyboard for mine now and it works great, or did until it seems everything in my house seems to not want to work these days. Rose Combs roseco...@q.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 1:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? There are cases out there which let you put an iPad in a holder on the top. It then looks like a laptop with the iPad laying sideways. Mine has the home button to the right. Then there is a QWERTY style keyboard on the lower half and the two halves close like a laptop. The connection of the keyboard to the iPad is made through Bluetooth paring. Mine connects and disconnects so that the rechargeable keyboard lasts about 2 weeks worth of typing but I get a lot of email. It only takes 3 hours to recharge from a totally dead battery to a fully charged one. The charging cable comes with the keyboard case. There are cases for all iPads being sold today. I like the iPad Air with WI-FI and cellular and my Air has 128 GGB of storage. If you rarely travel then you can just get the WI-FI only model assuming of course you own a wireless router at home. It isn't to hard to find free WI-FI and it's as close as that mall we've talked about. I keep my music collection on my iPad and the Bard reading app. NLS Talking Books sound much better when heard on an iPad Air then on an iPhone 5s. Sorry this is probably longer then you would of liked it! On the other hand, you already I can be talkative! LOL! HTH Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:37 PM Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new
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I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. . But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing articles, recipes, information and such. When an email or webpage has information I might find useful in the future I copy the relevant info and quickly save it in my Dropbox folder. I have huge files of health articles, recipes, iDevice information, computer and Jaws info, and tons of other stuff. I have not figured out how to quickly (or slowly for that matter) copy items from the web or email on my IOS device and save them in my files for future reference. Another thing the Windows laptop can do is handle certain functions on Facebook that I can't do with the regular Facebook app.I also agree with the person who mentioned the ability to use USB memory sticks for the NLS readers and other backup purposes. I use my iPhone to listen to books during the day but find my NLS player easier for night listening. If you need a new computer you can get a budget laptop for less than an iPad and then you have the best of both worlds. just my biased opinion... Sherrie Gosling -Original Message- From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
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Just thought I could help. Can't give it away. Take care Anthony Sent from my iPhone 5s! On Jun 20, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: No calls right now, dealing with business oriented stuff, for the foreseeable future, and reluctant to trust since over the past weeks all help seems to create more problems than solutions, need to figure out what I will be responsible for paying, figure finances, where I am going if I am going etc. Minor things I could do with the iPhone and can't seem to accomplish today will eventually work out, have the books and do better reading than talking about most of it. Sorry if I seem ungrateful, but I just don't think at this particular time I would retain it unless it is under my fingers, just too many other things requiring attention, and still very intensely coping with loss. Only 3 weeks today, hope you understand. Maybe at a later time I will be willing to share phone numbers, but please forgive me not today. Rose Combs roseco...@q.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Vece Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 11:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi Rose; I can't imagine how difficult it is for you. Here is our phone number: (856) 885-1730 If you have any iPhone or equipment problems, please call me. I know it can be frustrating to wait for an answer from the list. With Warmest Regards Anthony y Sent from my iPhone 5s! On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote: I had one of those devices before, I just could not work with the iPad mini in the landscape position, seemed that everything tried to open before I could even touch it, have a Logitech BT keyboard for mine now and it works great, or did until it seems everything in my house seems to not want to work these days. Rose Combs roseco...@q.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 1:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? There are cases out there which let you put an iPad in a holder on the top. It then looks like a laptop with the iPad laying sideways. Mine has the home button to the right. Then there is a QWERTY style keyboard on the lower half and the two halves close like a laptop. The connection of the keyboard to the iPad is made through Bluetooth paring. Mine connects and disconnects so that the rechargeable keyboard lasts about 2 weeks worth of typing but I get a lot of email. It only takes 3 hours to recharge from a totally dead battery to a fully charged one. The charging cable comes with the keyboard case. There are cases for all iPads being sold today. I like the iPad Air with WI-FI and cellular and my Air has 128 GGB of storage. If you rarely travel then you can just get the WI-FI only model assuming of course you own a wireless router at home. It isn't to hard to find free WI-FI and it's as close as that mall we've talked about. I keep my music collection on my iPad and the Bard reading app. NLS Talking Books sound much better when heard on an iPad Air then on an iPhone 5s. Sorry this is probably longer then you would of liked it! On the other hand, you already I can be talkative! LOL! HTH Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:37 PM Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and
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I use VoiceOver. My vision is limited to slightly better than light perception. What I do is slowly explore the screen, the same way a sighted person would do with vision. VO reads the text in the line under one's finger and places the read cursor either at the beginning or the end of the line, depending on the direction the finger is moving. I then use the rotor to select words for moving quickly through the line, and characters for specific editing (when not using my braille display). Even when using my braille display, however, I still use the touchscreen for reading and exploring. The touchscreen gives us the same two-dimensional experience that the sighted get, but to take full advantage of this, blind people must retrain our conceptions of how to function with the system. It is absolutely fascinating watching blind children, who only have positive training on iPads, navigate and work with the touchscreen. They do things that most of you regularly say are impossible, because they do not know any better. I wish more TVI's would train their kids the way a few excellent ones do. As for the app I use for my case notes: after experimenting with a few notes apps, I decided Apple Notes works well enough for my needs, and has the best guarantee of always working with the latest iOS (I always upgrade shortly after release), and will most probably always be VO accessible. after all, if Apple ceases its focus on universal accessibility in general and blindness accessibility in particular (considering Tim Cooks comments in April when challenged on this specific matter, considerably less likely than Jaws becoming a completely free program tomorrow), the entire system will become inaccessible anyway. Our medical office software is completely inaccessible, so we set up work-arounds for me. I email the complete notes file to our admin after each update. Admin copies my latest entry from the beginning of the file and pastes it into the patient's permanent record. This way, I maintain my complete client file in case I need to look up information, and only the most recent entry is added to the permanent record each time. When others update patient records in the system, and it is information relevant to my work, that person emails a copy of their entry to me and I paste it at the relevant place in my notes file. I separate each entry with a blank line, and type the date at the top of each entry. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 7:19, denise avant denise.av...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, What edit program are you using to write your case notes? If I may ask, are you relying on voiceover or can you see the screen? I am asking because it seems that the weakest part of the iPhone for blind users seems to be the text editors. Otherwise, all of the other components are fabulus. I use my iPhone, and sometimes the iPad for everything except for keeping long notes, and editing documents. On Jun 20, 2014, at 11:53 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I actually find Safari on my iPhone to be quicker to navigate than Safari on my Mac, or IE on an office PC. Then again, I use the touchscreen exclusively for navigating. I do all my email on my iPhone. I turn my MacBook Air on once or twice per week, currently. I write all my case notes for work, manage my calendars, perform much of my research, and do my initial paper writing, all on my iPhone. I plan to acquire an iPad when Touch-ID becomes available on it. I will keep a computer around, for now, mainly to back-up the iDevices. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 3:38, Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com wrote: i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. . But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing articles, recipes, information and such. When an email or webpage has information I might find useful in the future I copy the relevant info and quickly save it in my Dropbox folder. I have huge files of health articles, recipes, iDevice information, computer and Jaws info, and tons of other stuff. I
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I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. . But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing articles, recipes, information and such. When an email or webpage has information I might find useful in the future I copy the relevant info and quickly save it in my Dropbox folder. I have huge files of health articles, recipes, iDevice information, computer and Jaws info, and tons of other stuff. I have not figured out how to quickly (or slowly for that matter) copy items from the web or email on my IOS device and save them in my files for future reference. Another thing the Windows laptop can do is handle certain functions on Facebook that I can't do with the regular Facebook app.I also agree with the person who mentioned the ability to use USB memory sticks for the NLS readers and other backup purposes. I use my iPhone to listen to books during the day but find my NLS player easier for night listening. If you need a new computer you can get a budget laptop for less than an iPad and then you have the best of both worlds. just my biased opinion... Sherrie Gosling -Original Message- From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The
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David, actually, your current hard drive has the same type of magnetic surface as your previous floppies and is also susceptible to data rot, so you might want to reconsider how you're storing such old data. A hard disk drive platter (or disk) is the circular disk on which magnetic data is stored in a hard disk drive. The rigid nature of the platters in a hard drive is what gives them their name (as opposed to the flexible materials which are used to make floppy disk). Hard drives typically have several platters which are mounted on the same spindle. A platter can store information on both sides, requiring two heads per platter. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 2:47 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. . But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing articles, recipes, information and such. When an email or webpage has information I might find useful in the future I copy the relevant info and quickly save it in my Dropbox folder. I have huge files of health articles, recipes, iDevice information, computer and Jaws info, and tons of other stuff. I have not figured out how to quickly (or slowly for that matter) copy items from the web or email on my IOS device and save them in my files for future reference. Another thing the Windows laptop can do is handle certain functions on Facebook that I can't do with the regular Facebook app.I also agree with the person who mentioned the ability to use USB memory sticks for the NLS readers and other backup purposes. I use my iPhone to listen to books during the day but find my NLS player easier for night listening. If you need a new computer you can get a budget laptop for less than an iPad and then you have the best of both worlds. just my biased opinion... Sherrie Gosling -Original Message- From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle
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I have an old Braille Lite 40 that I still use for ramblings. As for writings on iDevice, I use Notes and Pages. I use my Braille display most ofthe time, and intend to use a keyboard. I can comfortably use the virtual keyboard, but it's impractical in my opinion to expect to use it exclusively. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 1:27 PM, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. . But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing articles, recipes, information and such. When an email or webpage has information I might find useful in the future I copy the relevant info and quickly save it in my Dropbox folder. I have huge files of health articles, recipes, iDevice information, computer and Jaws info, and tons of other stuff. I have not figured out how to quickly (or slowly for that matter) copy items from the web or email on my IOS device and save them in my files for future reference. Another thing the Windows laptop can do is handle certain functions on Facebook that I can't do with the regular Facebook app.I also agree with the person who mentioned the ability to use USB memory sticks for the NLS readers and other backup purposes. I use my iPhone to listen to books during the day but find my NLS player easier for night listening. If you need a new computer you can get a budget laptop for less than an iPad and then you have the best of both worlds. just my biased opinion... Sherrie Gosling -Original Message- From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop
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What??? There are sticks with lightning ports??? This is much nicer than I expected. Wow. Teresa, doing a happy dance Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:47 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. . But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing articles, recipes, information and such. When an email or webpage has information I might find useful in the future I copy the relevant info and quickly save it in my Dropbox folder. I have huge files of health articles, recipes, iDevice information, computer and Jaws info, and tons of other stuff. I have not figured out how to quickly (or slowly for that matter) copy items from the web or email on my IOS device and save them in my files for future reference. Another thing the Windows laptop can do is handle certain functions on Facebook that I can't do with the regular Facebook app.I also agree with the person who mentioned the ability to use USB memory sticks for the NLS readers and other backup purposes. I use my iPhone to listen to books during the day but find my NLS player easier for night listening. If you need a new computer you can get a budget laptop for less than an iPad and then you have the best of both worlds. just my biased opinion... Sherrie Gosling -Original Message- From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone
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Yes, and, the data can become corrupt when not accessed for an extended period of time. It is safer to have the data stored on multiple media, and even safer to utilise at least one off-site storage solution. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 10:47, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: David, actually, your current hard drive has the same type of magnetic surface as your previous floppies and is also susceptible to data rot, so you might want to reconsider how you're storing such old data. A hard disk drive platter (or disk) is the circular disk on which magnetic data is stored in a hard disk drive. The rigid nature of the platters in a hard drive is what gives them their name (as opposed to the flexible materials which are used to make floppy disk). Hard drives typically have several platters which are mounted on the same spindle. A platter can store information on both sides, requiring two heads per platter. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 2:47 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. . But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing articles, recipes, information and such. When an email or webpage has information I might find useful in the future I copy the relevant info and quickly save it in my Dropbox folder. I have huge files of health articles, recipes, iDevice information, computer and Jaws info, and tons of other stuff. I have not figured out how to quickly (or slowly for that matter) copy items from the web or email on my IOS device and save them in my files for future reference. Another thing the Windows laptop can do is handle certain functions on Facebook that I can't do with the regular Facebook app.I also agree with the person who mentioned the ability to use USB memory sticks for the NLS readers and other backup purposes. I use my iPhone to listen to books during the day but find my NLS player easier for night listening. If you need a new computer you can get a budget laptop for less than an iPad and then you have the best of both worlds. just my biased opinion... Sherrie Gosling -Original Message- From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:37 PM To:
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It is a KickStarter project which just got funded. They are projecting a September fulfilment time, so it will hopefully be sometime between September and December. They raised so much funds that I expect to see the product for sale generally by the beginning of next year. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 12:23, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: What??? There are sticks with lightning ports??? This is much nicer than I expected. Wow. Teresa, doing a happy dance Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:47 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. . But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing articles, recipes, information and such. When an email or webpage has information I might find useful in the future I copy the relevant info and quickly save it in my Dropbox folder. I have huge files of health articles, recipes, iDevice information, computer and Jaws info, and tons of other stuff. I have not figured out how to quickly (or slowly for that matter) copy items from the web or email on my IOS device and save them in my files for future reference. Another thing the Windows laptop can do is handle certain functions on Facebook that I can't do with the regular Facebook app.I also agree with the person who mentioned the ability to use USB memory sticks for the NLS readers and other backup purposes. I use my iPhone to listen to books during the day but find my NLS player easier for night listening. If you need a new computer you can get a budget laptop for less than an iPad and then you have the best of both worlds. just my biased opinion... Sherrie Gosling -Original Message- From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS
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Well, that is fascinating. I'll definitely be monitoring this. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 8:26 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: It is a KickStarter project which just got funded. They are projecting a September fulfilment time, so it will hopefully be sometime between September and December. They raised so much funds that I expect to see the product for sale generally by the beginning of next year. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 12:23, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: What??? There are sticks with lightning ports??? This is much nicer than I expected. Wow. Teresa, doing a happy dance Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:47 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. . But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing articles, recipes, information and such. When an email or webpage has information I might find useful in the future I copy the relevant info and quickly save it in my Dropbox folder. I have huge files of health articles, recipes, iDevice information, computer and Jaws info, and tons of other stuff. I have not figured out how to quickly (or slowly for that matter) copy items from the web or email on my IOS device and save them in my files for future reference. Another thing the Windows laptop can do is handle certain functions on Facebook that I can't do with the regular Facebook app.I also agree with the person who mentioned the ability to use USB memory sticks for the NLS readers and other backup purposes. I use my iPhone to listen to books during the day but find my NLS player easier for night listening. If you need a new computer you can get a budget laptop for less than an iPad and then you have the best of both worlds. just my biased opinion... Sherrie Gosling -Original Message- From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since
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what is this new thing? a flash drive that uses a different connector? I hate sounding like a uneducated person but, Not sure how this is different or better than the flash drives we now have. Billy Maynard - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:55 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Well, that is fascinating. I'll definitely be monitoring this. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 8:26 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: It is a KickStarter project which just got funded. They are projecting a September fulfilment time, so it will hopefully be sometime between September and December. They raised so much funds that I expect to see the product for sale generally by the beginning of next year. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 12:23, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: What??? There are sticks with lightning ports??? This is much nicer than I expected. Wow. Teresa, doing a happy dance Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:47 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. . But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing articles, recipes, information and such. When an email or webpage has information I might find useful in the future I copy the relevant info and quickly save it in my Dropbox folder. I have huge files of health articles, recipes, iDevice information, computer and Jaws info, and tons of other stuff. I have not figured out how to quickly (or slowly for that matter) copy items from the web or email on my IOS device and save them in my files for future reference. Another thing the Windows laptop can do is handle certain functions on Facebook that I can't do with the regular Facebook app.I also agree with the person who mentioned the ability to use USB memory sticks for the NLS readers and other backup purposes. I use my iPhone to listen to books during the day but find my NLS player easier for night listening. If you need a new computer you can get a budget laptop for less than an iPad and then you have the best of both worlds. just my biased opinion... Sherrie Gosling -Original Message- From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Wednesday,
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It is a flash drive with both an Apple certified Lightning connector and a standard USB connector. The company has also released, to the general market, a bluetooth drive port with USB ports for external drives. So, there are a couple ways available to store data from an iOS device that are personal rather than using a computer or the cloud. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 16:00, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote: what is this new thing? a flash drive that uses a different connector? I hate sounding like a uneducated person but, Not sure how this is different or better than the flash drives we now have. Billy Maynard - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:55 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Well, that is fascinating. I'll definitely be monitoring this. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 8:26 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: It is a KickStarter project which just got funded. They are projecting a September fulfilment time, so it will hopefully be sometime between September and December. They raised so much funds that I expect to see the product for sale generally by the beginning of next year. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 12:23, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: What??? There are sticks with lightning ports??? This is much nicer than I expected. Wow. Teresa, doing a happy dance Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:47 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. . But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing articles, recipes, information and such. When an email or webpage has information I might find useful in the future I copy the relevant info and quickly save it in my Dropbox folder. I have huge files of health articles, recipes, iDevice information, computer and Jaws info, and tons of other stuff. I have not figured out how to quickly (or slowly for that matter) copy items from the web or email on my IOS device and save them in my files for future
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Billy, The flashdrive David referred to is made to work with iDevices and to plug directly into the Lightning port of an iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch. This would be of great value for people who would like to have access to data which does not fit on their iPhone or iPad. I believe the drive is designed with a regular USB connector so you can plug it into the computer, copy files to it and then plug it directly into your iDevice and access the files. Regards, Sieghardadditional data -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Billy Maynard Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 9:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? what is this new thing? a flash drive that uses a different connector? I hate sounding like a uneducated person but, Not sure how this is different or better than the flash drives we now have. Billy Maynard - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:55 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Well, that is fascinating. I'll definitely be monitoring this. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 8:26 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: It is a KickStarter project which just got funded. They are projecting a September fulfilment time, so it will hopefully be sometime between September and December. They raised so much funds that I expect to see the product for sale generally by the beginning of next year. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 12:23, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: What??? There are sticks with lightning ports??? This is much nicer than I expected. Wow. Teresa, doing a happy dance Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:47 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. . But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing articles, recipes, information and such. When an email or webpage has information I might find useful in the future I copy the relevant info and quickly save it in my Dropbox folder. I have huge files of health articles, recipes, iDevice
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But you would still need ITunes to transfer data I imagine? it'd be great if they'd have maybe two paths to transfer: ITunes, and via regular USB! El 20/06/2014 11:18 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel escribió: Billy, The flashdrive David referred to is made to work with iDevices and to plug directly into the Lightning port of an iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch. This would be of great value for people who would like to have access to data which does not fit on their iPhone or iPad. I believe the drive is designed with a regular USB connector so you can plug it into the computer, copy files to it and then plug it directly into your iDevice and access the files. Regards, Sieghardadditional data -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Billy Maynard Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 9:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? what is this new thing? a flash drive that uses a different connector? I hate sounding like a uneducated person but, Not sure how this is different or better than the flash drives we now have. Billy Maynard - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochranbatsfly...@me.com To:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:55 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Well, that is fascinating. I'll definitely be monitoring this. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 8:26 PM, David Chittendendchitten...@gmail.com wrote: It is a KickStarter project which just got funded. They are projecting a September fulfilment time, so it will hopefully be sometime between September and December. They raised so much funds that I expect to see the product for sale generally by the beginning of next year. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 12:23, Teresa Cochranbatsfly...@me.com wrote: What??? There are sticks with lightning ports??? This is much nicer than I expected. Wow. Teresa, doing a happy dance Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:47 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH.bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrienanagoose4...@gmail.com To:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop. I use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet. Also, doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop. Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. . But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing articles, recipes, information and such. When an email or webpage has information I might find useful in the future I copy the relevant info and quickly
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Yes, but Apple is under agreements with music labels that they will not do this with their music app. So, you need to use one of the many third-party music apps available on the App Store. I have a couple which are pretty good. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 16:55, Gerardo Corripio gera1...@gmail.com wrote: But you would still need ITunes to transfer data I imagine? it'd be great if they'd have maybe two paths to transfer: ITunes, and via regular USB! El 20/06/2014 11:18 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel escribió: Billy, The flashdrive David referred to is made to work with iDevices and to plug directly into the Lightning port of an iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch. This would be of great value for people who would like to have access to data which does not fit on their iPhone or iPad. I believe the drive is designed with a regular USB connector so you can plug it into the computer, copy files to it and then plug it directly into your iDevice and access the files. Regards, Sieghardadditional data -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Billy Maynard Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 9:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? what is this new thing? a flash drive that uses a different connector? I hate sounding like a uneducated person but, Not sure how this is different or better than the flash drives we now have. Billy Maynard - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochranbatsfly...@me.com To:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:55 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Well, that is fascinating. I'll definitely be monitoring this. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 8:26 PM, David Chittendendchitten...@gmail.com wrote: It is a KickStarter project which just got funded. They are projecting a September fulfilment time, so it will hopefully be sometime between September and December. They raised so much funds that I expect to see the product for sale generally by the beginning of next year. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 12:23, Teresa Cochranbatsfly...@me.com wrote: What??? There are sticks with lightning ports??? This is much nicer than I expected. Wow. Teresa, doing a happy dance Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:47 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH.bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrienanagoose4...@gmail.com To:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want. I have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few
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I imagine you would use some kind of file manager app that was made by the manufacturer of the flash drive. This could allow you to store and manage files including copying them to or from your device. The app could also allow you to play back media. I could be wrong, though. Grant -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio Sent: June 20, 2014 9:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? But you would still need ITunes to transfer data I imagine? it'd be great if they'd have maybe two paths to transfer: ITunes, and via regular USB! El 20/06/2014 11:18 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel escribió: Billy, The flashdrive David referred to is made to work with iDevices and to plug directly into the Lightning port of an iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch. This would be of great value for people who would like to have access to data which does not fit on their iPhone or iPad. I believe the drive is designed with a regular USB connector so you can plug it into the computer, copy files to it and then plug it directly into your iDevice and access the files. Regards, Sieghardadditional data -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Billy Maynard Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 9:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? what is this new thing? a flash drive that uses a different connector? I hate sounding like a uneducated person but, Not sure how this is different or better than the flash drives we now have. Billy Maynard - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochranbatsfly...@me.com To:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:55 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Well, that is fascinating. I'll definitely be monitoring this. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 8:26 PM, David Chittendendchitten...@gmail.com wrote: It is a KickStarter project which just got funded. They are projecting a September fulfilment time, so it will hopefully be sometime between September and December. They raised so much funds that I expect to see the product for sale generally by the beginning of next year. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 12:23, Teresa Cochranbatsfly...@me.com wrote: What??? There are sticks with lightning ports??? This is much nicer than I expected. Wow. Teresa, doing a happy dance Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:47 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, to the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do. My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it in a few months. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, RobH.bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm glad you wrote this. The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes accumulation of written work to manage. this is ever my issue with giving up a PC of any type when this argument arises. Great here and now consumer infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of material with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the characters and spaces to produce it. But it is our stuff, and we don't wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an esculating fee no doubt, and so on. We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies. We got it this far, so not giving up now. Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit from it. RobH. - Original Message - From: Sherrienanagoose4...@gmail.com To:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my sighted husband. I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at all anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I find the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts
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The mail app that comes with the i-devices can be a pain if you get a lot a lot of email, but it is possible. The only problem I see is that you don't have any additional memory issues with an i-device as you do a computer. I seriously doubt that the mail app will ever be a productive and reliable full proof app especially if you use most of your i-device's memory. I have to leave 2-3 gig of memory on my iphone in order for mail to cooperate and be a normal productive app. On Jun 18, 2014, at 9:51 PM, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: Writing is going to be a bit of a headache since you will have to turn on the edit mode on the iPad whenever you need to type text. Someone typed up an article regarding best apps for text entry, and I ran a quick search for you and did not find it, but the article is definitely on the AppleVis website. Since the experience on the iPad will for the most part be the same as your iPod, try quickly launching a text editing word processor type of app and quickly taking down a Note, and you will find it is more trouble than one would want to go through when taking down a quick Note or writing lengthy documents. I got along much better when I changed my mindset and concluded iOS devices are better used as consumption devices rather than production tools. I have carpeting and have had a cat for some 10 years, and this has not been a significant problem for me though my desktop is on cat level--the floor. Not challenging your personal experience, just stating that maybe my shaggy carpet and fluffy cat don't produce as much lint and stuff that gets caught in computer filters. Joseph - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:37 PM Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at
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Teresa, The one thing I would add to what others have said is that, in my experience, there doesn't seem to be a word processor available for the iPad that can match the muscle of MS Word. Even my friends who are devoted Mac users still return to Word for heavy-duty word processing. I love my iPhone/iPad, but I will keep my laptop for the foreseeable future. Kimber On 6/18/14, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Kimberly -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi I will completely agree 100% here. I use a mac exclusively for personal stuff, but for any kind of productive stuff I use windows. E.G. Embossing, word processing, work related email and excel etc. Otherwise I use the mac for itunes, mail, browsing etc. I also have a few notetakers that I use as well. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2014 5:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Teresa, The one thing I would add to what others have said is that, in my experience, there doesn't seem to be a word processor available for the iPad that can match the muscle of MS Word. Even my friends who are devoted Mac users still return to Word for heavy-duty word processing. I love my iPhone/iPad, but I will keep my laptop for the foreseeable future. Kimber On 6/18/14, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Kimberly -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Actually, the only thing that really holds me back from going completely to iOS, other than the fact that I do enjoy playing with my technology, is that I don't yet have a way to use the braille embosser and do braille translation without my Mac and/or linux; actually even with linux I can't at this point emboss. But for about a year now I've been thinking eventually this might happen and so I am deliberately doing more and more tasks on my i-devices. If you don't have a reason to have to specifically use MS Word, I think it might be doable. I have a sighted friend who is doing more and more with his iPad and mainly uses Windows now only for some online courses he is taking that require very strict MS WORD formatting; I don't remember if he is also using the MICROSOFT apps on the iPad; I think perhaps he is. But I think the day will come when using i-devices only is a viable option even in this area and for blind as well as sighted users. While I have to read some Word files I don't need to write in it so this isn't an issue for me. So I'm using my iPad especially, but also my iPhones, more and more and eventually hope to do what you are thinking of doing. I think the only way to know for sure would be to get an iPad or borrow one and use it for a few weeks exclusively to see if there are unworkable situations that come up. I also think that as the Mac and i-devices become more popular MS Word may someday not be demanded in some places as emphatically as now, but only time will tell about this. You know, there was a time, in my lifetime, when MS Word didn't exist and nothing lasts forever, not MS Word, not any OS or iOS or android or whatever. So who knows what may devellop just around the corner! -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jun 19, 2014, at 3:37 AM, Scott Erichsen serich...@scotterichsen.com wrote: Hi I will completely agree 100% here. I use a mac exclusively for personal stuff, but for any kind of productive stuff I use windows. E.G. Embossing, word processing, work related email and excel etc. Otherwise I use the mac for itunes, mail, browsing etc. I also have a few notetakers that I use as well. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2014 5:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Teresa, The one thing I would add to what others have said is that, in my experience, there doesn't seem to be a word processor available for the iPad that can match the muscle of MS Word. Even my friends who are devoted Mac users still return to Word for heavy-duty word processing. I love my iPhone/iPad, but I will keep my laptop for the foreseeable future. Kimber On 6/18/14, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options,
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Hmm, I don't find taking down a quick note to be trouble. I guess it's all in what you are used to; I do have braille and that probably helps. But if by turning on edit mode you mean double-tapping the text field, I don't find that to be trouble myself. But it would be a boring and rather uncreative world if we all thought alike about these things. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jun 18, 2014, at 8:51 PM, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: Writing is going to be a bit of a headache since you will have to turn on the edit mode on the iPad whenever you need to type text. Someone typed up an article regarding best apps for text entry, and I ran a quick search for you and did not find it, but the article is definitely on the AppleVis website. Since the experience on the iPad will for the most part be the same as your iPod, try quickly launching a text editing word processor type of app and quickly taking down a Note, and you will find it is more trouble than one would want to go through when taking down a quick Note or writing lengthy documents. I got along much better when I changed my mindset and concluded iOS devices are better used as consumption devices rather than production tools. I have carpeting and have had a cat for some 10 years, and this has not been a significant problem for me though my desktop is on cat level--the floor. Not challenging your personal experience, just stating that maybe my shaggy carpet and fluffy cat don't produce as much lint and stuff that gets caught in computer filters. Joseph - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:37 PM Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you
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Hi, I would also add that Numbers for IOS is somewhat accessible but it isn't nearly as accessible or as efficient to use as MS Excel for the PC. HTH, Scott Duck -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 2:46 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Teresa, The one thing I would add to what others have said is that, in my experience, there doesn't seem to be a word processor available for the iPad that can match the muscle of MS Word. Even my friends who are devoted Mac users still return to Word for heavy-duty word processing. I love my iPhone/iPad, but I will keep my laptop for the foreseeable future. Kimber On 6/18/14, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Kimberly -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I actually use IMAP with Mail, so this doesn't seem to be an issue for me. Teresa Winging its way from my iPod On Jun 19, 2014, at 12:33 AM, melissa tucker melissatuck...@att.net wrote: The mail app that comes with the i-devices can be a pain if you get a lot a lot of email, but it is possible. The only problem I see is that you don't have any additional memory issues with an i-device as you do a computer. I seriously doubt that the mail app will ever be a productive and reliable full proof app especially if you use most of your i-device's memory. I have to leave 2-3 gig of memory on my iphone in order for mail to cooperate and be a normal productive app. On Jun 18, 2014, at 9:51 PM, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: Writing is going to be a bit of a headache since you will have to turn on the edit mode on the iPad whenever you need to type text. Someone typed up an article regarding best apps for text entry, and I ran a quick search for you and did not find it, but the article is definitely on the AppleVis website. Since the experience on the iPad will for the most part be the same as your iPod, try quickly launching a text editing word processor type of app and quickly taking down a Note, and you will find it is more trouble than one would want to go through when taking down a quick Note or writing lengthy documents. I got along much better when I changed my mindset and concluded iOS devices are better used as consumption devices rather than production tools. I have carpeting and have had a cat for some 10 years, and this has not been a significant problem for me though my desktop is on cat level--the floor. Not challenging your personal experience, just stating that maybe my shaggy carpet and fluffy cat don't produce as much lint and stuff that gets caught in computer filters. Joseph - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:37 PM Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post
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I certainly wouldn't use an iPad if the virtual keyboard was the only input option and I had to turn the rotor to edit mode. Cheryl, thanks for your thoughts. It does also look to me as if mobile devices are the wave of the future. They aren't there yet, but they will be very soon. I rarely do Braille translation, but that definitely is a consideration. As for MS WORD, everybody sit down for a minute and hope not to be shocked. I haven't used it in five years. Being a Mac user, it was irrelevant, except for viewing Word documents. Ok, you can breathe now. grin. In fact, before I got a Mac, I used Word Perfect. Oh, forgot to warn you all again. LOL Teresa Winging its way from my iPod On Jun 19, 2014, at 6:58 AM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote: Hmm, I don't find taking down a quick note to be trouble. I guess it's all in what you are used to; I do have braille and that probably helps. But if by turning on edit mode you mean double-tapping the text field, I don't find that to be trouble myself. But it would be a boring and rather uncreative world if we all thought alike about these things. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jun 18, 2014, at 8:51 PM, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: Writing is going to be a bit of a headache since you will have to turn on the edit mode on the iPad whenever you need to type text. Someone typed up an article regarding best apps for text entry, and I ran a quick search for you and did not find it, but the article is definitely on the AppleVis website. Since the experience on the iPad will for the most part be the same as your iPod, try quickly launching a text editing word processor type of app and quickly taking down a Note, and you will find it is more trouble than one would want to go through when taking down a quick Note or writing lengthy documents. I got along much better when I changed my mindset and concluded iOS devices are better used as consumption devices rather than production tools. I have carpeting and have had a cat for some 10 years, and this has not been a significant problem for me though my desktop is on cat level--the floor. Not challenging your personal experience, just stating that maybe my shaggy carpet and fluffy cat don't produce as much lint and stuff that gets caught in computer filters. Joseph - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:37 PM Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a
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For me, the real issue with using an iOS device as my only computer would be how data can and can't be backed up. I know there are online backup services but I'd like to be able to back up data onto thumb drives. Also, while my iPhone is now my primary book player, I'd still like the option of plugging in my thumb drive to my NLS player and there seems to be no easy way to transfer iPhone content to a thumb drive. I know, my mindset is so 2010 but I like being able to easily make offline, local backups. David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator, Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.davidgoldfield.info/ Teresa Cochran wrote: I certainly wouldn't use an iPad if the virtual keyboard was the only input option and I had to turn the rotor to edit mode. Cheryl, thanks for your thoughts. It does also look to me as if mobile devices are the wave of the future. They aren't there yet, but they will be very soon. I rarely do Braille translation, but that definitely is a consideration. As for MS WORD, everybody sit down for a minute and hope not to be shocked. I haven't used it in five years. Being a Mac user, it was irrelevant, except for viewing Word documents. Ok, you can breathe now. grin. In fact, before I got a Mac, I used Word Perfect. Oh, forgot to warn you all again. LOL Teresa Winging its way from my iPod On Jun 19, 2014, at 6:58 AM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com mailto:cah4...@icloud.com wrote: Hmm, I don't find taking down a quick note to be trouble. I guess it's all in what you are used to; I do have braille and that probably helps. But if by turning on edit mode you mean double-tapping the text field, I don't find that to be trouble myself. But it would be a boring and rather uncreative world if we all thought alike about these things. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jun 18, 2014, at 8:51 PM, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com mailto:joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: Writing is going to be a bit of a headache since you will have to turn on the edit mode on the iPad whenever you need to type text. Someone typed up an article regarding best apps for text entry, and I ran a quick search for you and did not find it, but the article is definitely on the AppleVis website. Since the experience on the iPad will for the most part be the same as your iPod, try quickly launching a text editing word processor type of app and quickly taking down a Note, and you will find it is more trouble than one would want to go through when taking down a quick Note or writing lengthy documents. I got along much better when I changed my mindset and concluded iOS devices are better used as consumption devices rather than production tools. I have carpeting and have had a cat for some 10 years, and this has not been a significant problem for me though my desktop is on cat level--the floor. Not challenging your personal experience, just stating that maybe my shaggy carpet and fluffy cat don't produce as much lint and stuff that gets caught in computer filters. Joseph - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com mailto:batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:37 PM Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than
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Perhaps the third party keyboard support and whatever this Braille input is will make typing much more productive in iOS8. Just to throw in a comment regarding typing as of now. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 19/06/2014 02:51, Joseph FreeTech wrote: Writing is going to be a bit of a headache since you will have to turn on the edit mode on the iPad whenever you need to type text. Someone typed up an article regarding best apps for text entry, and I ran a quick search for you and did not find it, but the article is definitely on the AppleVis website. Since the experience on the iPad will for the most part be the same as your iPod, try quickly launching a text editing word processor type of app and quickly taking down a Note, and you will find it is more trouble than one would want to go through when taking down a quick Note or writing lengthy documents. I got along much better when I changed my mindset and concluded iOS devices are better used as consumption devices rather than production tools. I have carpeting and have had a cat for some 10 years, and this has not been a significant problem for me though my desktop is on cat level--the floor. Not challenging your personal experience, just stating that maybe my shaggy carpet and fluffy cat don't produce as much lint and stuff that gets caught in computer filters. Joseph - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:37 PM Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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There are cases out there which let you put an iPad in a holder on the top. It then looks like a laptop with the iPad laying sideways. Mine has the home button to the right. Then there is a QWERTY style keyboard on the lower half and the two halves close like a laptop. The connection of the keyboard to the iPad is made through Bluetooth paring. Mine connects and disconnects so that the rechargeable keyboard lasts about 2 weeks worth of typing but I get a lot of email. It only takes 3 hours to recharge from a totally dead battery to a fully charged one. The charging cable comes with the keyboard case. There are cases for all iPads being sold today. I like the iPad Air with WI-FI and cellular and my Air has 128 GGB of storage. If you rarely travel then you can just get the WI-FI only model assuming of course you own a wireless router at home. It isn't to hard to find free WI-FI and it's as close as that mall we've talked about. I keep my music collection on my iPad and the Bard reading app. NLS Talking Books sound much better when heard on an iPad Air then on an iPhone 5s. Sorry this is probably longer then you would of liked it! On the other hand, you already I can be talkative! LOL! HTH Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:37 PM Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I would say that if you only did email and web browsing with a document here or there, you could easily make the change. I know for traveling the iPad Air with both WI-FI and Cellular lets you access the web and email in more places then just WI-FI alone. If you insist on your music collection, then you may decide to limit it to 40 or 50 GB of your favorite tunes and on an 128 GB iPad Air you should have plenty of room left for documents and maybe even a picture or two. Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Cheryl Homiak To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 6:43 AM Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Actually, the only thing that really holds me back from going completely to iOS, other than the fact that I do enjoy playing with my technology, is that I don't yet have a way to use the braille embosser and do braille translation without my Mac and/or linux; actually even with linux I can't at this point emboss. But for about a year now I've been thinking eventually this might happen and so I am deliberately doing more and more tasks on my i-devices. If you don't have a reason to have to specifically use MS Word, I think it might be doable. I have a sighted friend who is doing more and more with his iPad and mainly uses Windows now only for some online courses he is taking that require very strict MS WORD formatting; I don't remember if he is also using the MICROSOFT apps on the iPad; I think perhaps he is. But I think the day will come when using i-devices only is a viable option even in this area and for blind as well as sighted users. While I have to read some Word files I don't need to write in it so this isn't an issue for me. So I'm using my iPad especially, but also my iPhones, more and more and eventually hope to do what you are thinking of doing. I think the only way to know for sure would be to get an iPad or borrow one and use it for a few weeks exclusively to see if there are unworkable situations that come up. I also think that as the Mac and i-devices become more popular MS Word may someday not be demanded in some places as emphatically as now, but only time will tell about this. You know, there was a time, in my lifetime, when MS Word didn't exist and nothing lasts forever, not MS Word, not any OS or iOS or android or whatever. So who knows what may devellop just around the corner! -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jun 19, 2014, at 3:37 AM, Scott Erichsen serich...@scotterichsen.com wrote: Hi I will completely agree 100% here. I use a mac exclusively for personal stuff, but for any kind of productive stuff I use windows. E.G. Embossing, word processing, work related email and excel etc. Otherwise I use the mac for itunes, mail, browsing etc. I also have a few notetakers that I use as well. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2014 5:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Teresa, The one thing I would add to what others have said is that, in my experience, there doesn't seem to be a word processor available for the iPad that can match the muscle of MS Word. Even my friends who are devoted Mac users still return to Word for heavy-duty word processing. I love my iPhone/iPad, but I will keep my laptop for the foreseeable future. Kimber On 6/18/14, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it.
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I keep a laptop for a couple of reasons. I like to have external drives. we have *tons* of music on our external harddrive. I would run out of space on an ipad, even one with the most storage. that is my number one reason for keeping a computer. Alia On Jun 18, 2014, at 9:37 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Writing is going to be a bit of a headache since you will have to turn on the edit mode on the iPad whenever you need to type text. Someone typed up an article regarding best apps for text entry, and I ran a quick search for you and did not find it, but the article is definitely on the AppleVis website. Since the experience on the iPad will for the most part be the same as your iPod, try quickly launching a text editing word processor type of app and quickly taking down a Note, and you will find it is more trouble than one would want to go through when taking down a quick Note or writing lengthy documents. I got along much better when I changed my mindset and concluded iOS devices are better used as consumption devices rather than production tools. I have carpeting and have had a cat for some 10 years, and this has not been a significant problem for me though my desktop is on cat level--the floor. Not challenging your personal experience, just stating that maybe my shaggy carpet and fluffy cat don't produce as much lint and stuff that gets caught in computer filters. Joseph - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:37 PM Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You Faring? Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi, I've heard people have tried this with different levels of success. The majority haven't had success because an iPad is more of a media device then a work tool. It all depends on what you are planning on doing. On Jun 18, 2014, at 7:37 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least, and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering replacing it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the iPad. Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting dust and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable with iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a keyboard. So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do you think this is doable? I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music and games, and occasionally write for informal publications. What do you guys think? Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
