RE: iPhone latest update
Do you have audio ducking on? If you turned it off that would explain why you are having difficulties hearing Voiceover over other audio that is playing. If audio ducking is on the volume of other audio is lowered if you are using the phone and Voiceover is speaking. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Jewel Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2019 4:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone latest update "SHOULD" being the word, but my phone must be, unduly sensative about which two fingers I use! Jewel -- From: "Gordon" Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 1:17 PM To: Subject: Re: iPhone latest update A two finger double tap should work to stop playback. On 12/25/2019 6:07 PM, Jewel wrote: > 13.3 was installed in the wee small hours of this morning, and, to > date, I have found no difference in the performance of the phone. > However, there is one thing: not connected with 13.3 I think, but, > when one is listening to a radio > station: in this case: Newstalk ZB, how does one turn the thing off? > > Jewel > > -- > From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net> > Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 7:44 AM > To: > Subject: RE: iPhone latest update > > But you can go to 13.3, and there is no problem with VoiceOver. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Steve Matzura > Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 10:46 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iPhone latest update > > I'll tell you why I don't want to. I'm panicky about that early-13 > phone and VoiceOver problem where VO died when disconnecting from a > telephone or FaceTime call. If that bug is till extant, I cannot > possibly have that happen to me when I'm away from sighted asistance to turn > the phone off. > > > On 12/24/2019 8:01 PM, Mr. Ed wrote: >> May I asked why you don't want to download IOS 13? >> Mr. Ed >> > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list > itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/a7783d80-317c-9014-0692-64d0ccc83201%40gmail.com. > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1a5d2973-6b93-7585-6c0d-e58a7dc3ee13%40gordonradio.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+un
RE: iPhone latest update
That phone bug is definitely fixed and I think as others pointed out, it was fixed even in one of the iOS 13.2 updates. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2019 5:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iPhone latest update Hi, First of all they have fix that issue. Second of all if that happens all I have done is press the home button three times to turn VO off then press it three times again to turn it on. If all else fails turn your iPhone off and then back on. Why do you need sighted assistance to turn your iPhone off and back on? Like I said since they have fix it in one of the last few updates I have not had this issue. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 9:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone latest update I'll tell you why I don't want to. I'm panicky about that early-13 phone and VoiceOver problem where VO died when disconnecting from a telephone or FaceTime call. If that bug is till extant, I cannot possibly have that happen to me when I'm away from sighted asistance to turn the phone off. On 12/24/2019 8:01 PM, Mr. Ed wrote: > May I asked why you don't want to download IOS 13? > Mr. Ed > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/a7783d80-317c-9014-0692-64d0ccc83201%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/004301d5bb8b%2427ee3af0%2477cab0d0%24%40abe.midco.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR06MB2573FEED1C319DB85BC5861AC7250%40MWHPR06MB2573.namprd06.prod.outlook.com.
Re: iPhone latest update
That's what I always do. When I turn it off in order to hand the phone to a sighted person who needs to do something for me which I cannot, I also must remember to tap the HOME button once, because Siri displays what it jut spoke, and the way to get rid of that is by tapping the HOME button once. On 12/27/2019 5:51 PM, Holly wrote: Steve: You can tell Siri to turn on voice over. That is the easiest way for me. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/f175e8b8-e0b7-0f5f-360a-29d7366b8703%40gmail.com.
Re: iPhone latest update
Steve: You can tell Siri to turn on voice over. That is the easiest way for me. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/0CAAD961C6424E02B62D88CA63413865%40HollyPC.
Re: iPhone latest update
If the hearing-aid accessibility shortcut is present, one mut choose between which triple-click-HOME function one wants to use. To turn VO off is easy enough, but not so to turn it back on again. Hence, I have removed that shortcut, so now my triple-click-HOME only turns off VO and shows no dialog about it. On 12/27/2019 11:43 AM, Holly wrote: Steve: I am not sure I understand your question. A triple tap on the home button will turn voice over off and will announce that voice over is off. Then another triple tap of the home button will turn voice over on again and it will announce voice over is on. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/c1566c65-c36d-26a7-eb9f-856cb1ebc16a%40gmail.com.
Re: iPhone latest update
What I think has happened is there are more than one apps selected for the accessibility shortcut. In order to have VoiceOver turn on and off with the triple tap, you must have voiceover selected only. Go to settings, accessibility and then the the shortcut. Make sure that it says voceiOver is selected only. Jenn and Kumi TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD! > On Dec 27, 2019, at 9:31 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: > > Yes, but that's only half the issue. The other half is turning VO back on. A > triple-tap of the HOME button brings up the same dialog, and since VO isn't > on, what does one do then? > > >> On 12/27/2019 10:27 AM, Carolyn wrote: >> Same here, and I just pressed the Home three times, flicked past the hearing >> short cut and double tapped VoiceOver. >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/63302099-93f1-ad25-baf5-483c20bedaf6%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2C7D5A99-FC7C-462F-8A0E-3C6792BFBD0F%40gmail.com.
Re: iPhone latest update
Steve: I am not sure I understand your question. A triple tap on the home button will turn voice over off and will announce that voice over is off. Then another triple tap of the home button will turn voice over on again and it will announce voice over is on. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/5F4BA7D9439E473197643FC2D5FA6DAC%40HollyPC.
Re: iPhone latest update
Yes, but that's only half the issue. The other half is turning VO back on. A triple-tap of the HOME button brings up the same dialog, and since VO isn't on, what does one do then? On 12/27/2019 10:27 AM, Carolyn wrote: Same here, and I just pressed the Home three times, flicked past the hearing short cut and double tapped VoiceOver. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/63302099-93f1-ad25-baf5-483c20bedaf6%40gmail.com.
RE: iPhone latest update
Same here, and I just pressed the Home three times, flicked past the hearing short cut and double tapped VoiceOver. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 4:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone latest update Thanks for reminding me about removing that hearing-aid shortcut. I ahve never used it, nor do or would I want to. On 12/26/2019 3:46 PM, Mr. Ed wrote: > Hi, > I have hearing aids and I turned off that short cut for pressing the home > button three times to turn VO on and off. I would rather have the option to > turn off VO with the home button then have the hearing aid short cut come up. > I did not have any issues turning off my iPhone when the VO problem existed. > But I don't think you have to worry about VO locking up with phone calls and > Facetime as they have fix that bug. > Mr. Ed > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/4165c671-6983-3b92-e818-f13b7ec3b46f%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/02f101d5bcca%241cfd36b0%2456f7a410%24%40windstream.net.
Re: iPhone latest update
Mr. Ed: Thanks. Got it! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FE4F3F61EB60401DA13E195CE582FD8A%40HollyPC.
RE: iPhone latest update
Hi Holly, Go to Accessibility Then do a four finger touch at the bottom of the screen to go to the last item on the menu which is accessibility short cut. Double tap on that and go to something about hearing aids. I don't have my aids paired right now so I don't remember exactly what it was called. But when you go down that list you will be able to tell because it will be selected. I have VO selected in my list which I want for the triple click home button. So just unselect whatever is selected regarding your hearing aids. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Holly Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 3:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone latest update Mr. Ed: How did you turn off the hearing aid shortcut. I have it on, and would rather not have it, as the app is not very accessible anyway. I went into accessibility and then hearing, but couldn't see any option for turning off the shortcut. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CF54C508EAB34F1F93FCCF59B43B50CF%40HollyPC. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00cb01d5bc49%24d8c1c630%248a455290%24%40abe.midco.net.
Re: iPhone latest update
Thanks for reminding me about removing that hearing-aid shortcut. I ahve never used it, nor do or would I want to. On 12/26/2019 3:46 PM, Mr. Ed wrote: Hi, I have hearing aids and I turned off that short cut for pressing the home button three times to turn VO on and off. I would rather have the option to turn off VO with the home button then have the hearing aid short cut come up. I did not have any issues turning off my iPhone when the VO problem existed. But I don't think you have to worry about VO locking up with phone calls and Facetime as they have fix that bug. Mr. Ed -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/4165c671-6983-3b92-e818-f13b7ec3b46f%40gmail.com.
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Mr. Ed: How did you turn off the hearing aid shortcut. I have it on, and would rather not have it, as the app is not very accessible anyway. I went into accessibility and then hearing, but couldn't see any option for turning off the shortcut. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CF54C508EAB34F1F93FCCF59B43B50CF%40HollyPC.
RE: iPhone latest update
Hi, I have hearing aids and I turned off that short cut for pressing the home button three times to turn VO on and off. I would rather have the option to turn off VO with the home button then have the hearing aid short cut come up. I did not have any issues turning off my iPhone when the VO problem existed. But I don't think you have to worry about VO locking up with phone calls and Facetime as they have fix that bug. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2019 7:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone latest update Because when this bug first appeared, it was not possible to turn VoiceOver off, then on again, so sighted assistance was required to do that. Second, if one is a hearing aid user, a triple-tap of the HOME button brings up a dialog that doesn't, or didn't, speak,offering the choice of turning VoiceOver off or doing some other thing with hearing aids which I forget just now how it's worded. In either case, that dialog didn't speak either, so someone relying on VoiceOver was rendered helpless without it. Third, Siri didn't do it either. VoiceOver was entirely hosed until the phone was rebooted. If that's been fixed in 13.3, I can deal with whatever else there might still be, long as I have VO. On 12/25/2019 8:24 PM, Mr. Ed wrote: > Hi, > First of all they have fix that issue. Second of all if that happens all I > have done is press the home button three times to turn VO off then press it > three times again to turn it on. If all else fails turn your iPhone off and > then back on. Why do you need sighted assistance to turn your iPhone off and > back on? Like I said since they have fix it in one of the last few updates I > have not had this issue. > Mr. Ed > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/07c317b6-c6ce-a04c-f6d7-5cc9f25305eb%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00b801d5bc2d%2489bb4780%249d31d680%24%40abe.midco.net.
Re: iPhone latest update
Because when this bug first appeared, it was not possible to turn VoiceOver off, then on again, so sighted assistance was required to do that. Second, if one is a hearing aid user, a triple-tap of the HOME button brings up a dialog that doesn't, or didn't, speak,offering the choice of turning VoiceOver off or doing some other thing with hearing aids which I forget just now how it's worded. In either case, that dialog didn't speak either, so someone relying on VoiceOver was rendered helpless without it. Third, Siri didn't do it either. VoiceOver was entirely hosed until the phone was rebooted. If that's been fixed in 13.3, I can deal with whatever else there might still be, long as I have VO. On 12/25/2019 8:24 PM, Mr. Ed wrote: Hi, First of all they have fix that issue. Second of all if that happens all I have done is press the home button three times to turn VO off then press it three times again to turn it on. If all else fails turn your iPhone off and then back on. Why do you need sighted assistance to turn your iPhone off and back on? Like I said since they have fix it in one of the last few updates I have not had this issue. Mr. Ed -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/07c317b6-c6ce-a04c-f6d7-5cc9f25305eb%40gmail.com.
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Hi guys: I finally updated a couple of days ago. I got my computer upgraded to Win 10 last week, so guess it is my time to catch up with the latest technology. I didn't find any major issues with 13.3, although, some say there is still a bug in the email app. I don't use my phone for much email, so can't address that. As far as voice over, I am sure they have fixed the bug Steve was worrying about. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CBD7B3E3460548E998C2926F6E944EED%40HollyPC.
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Good luck, Steve. we have 4 iphones, but haven't updated yet, and won't for a good while most likely. - Original Message - From: "Steve Matzura" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2019 6:30 PM Subject: Re: iPhone latest update And baby makes three! SOLD! :-)] On 12/25/2019 4:09 PM, kheve...@earthlink.net wrote: Steve, I have been using 13.3 for couple weeks now and have never experienced that problem. Honostly think you will be fine to upgrade. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/cf9fe258-8f0b-bea8-6c34-66f34f0092ab%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/D71047E710AC47EB96D471E989739F24%40love.
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Make sure your two fingers are spread out just a little bit. Don't have them together. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jewel Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2019 6:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone latest update "SHOULD" being the word, but my phone must be, unduly sensative about which two fingers I use! Jewel -- From: "Gordon" Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 1:17 PM To: Subject: Re: iPhone latest update A two finger double tap should work to stop playback. On 12/25/2019 6:07 PM, Jewel wrote: > 13.3 was installed in the wee small hours of this morning, and, to date, I > have found no > difference > in the performance of the phone. > However, there is one thing: not connected with 13.3 I think, but, when one > is listening to a > radio > station: in this case: Newstalk ZB, how does one turn the thing off? > > Jewel > > -- > From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net> > Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 7:44 AM > To: > Subject: RE: iPhone latest update > > But you can go to 13.3, and there is no problem with VoiceOver. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Steve Matzura > Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 10:46 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iPhone latest update > > I'll tell you why I don't want to. I'm panicky about that early-13 phone and > VoiceOver problem > where > VO died when disconnecting from a telephone or FaceTime call. If that bug is > till extant, I cannot > possibly have that happen to me when I'm away from sighted asistance to turn > the phone off. > > > On 12/24/2019 8:01 PM, Mr. Ed wrote: >> May I asked why you don't want to download IOS 13? >> Mr. Ed >> > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a > member's > post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly > rather than posting on the > list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list > owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/a7783d80-317c-9014-0692-64d0ccc83201%40gmail.com. > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1a5d2973-6b93-7585-6c0d-e58a7dc3ee13%40gordonradio.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.
RE: iPhone latest update
Hi, First of all they have fix that issue. Second of all if that happens all I have done is press the home button three times to turn VO off then press it three times again to turn it on. If all else fails turn your iPhone off and then back on. Why do you need sighted assistance to turn your iPhone off and back on? Like I said since they have fix it in one of the last few updates I have not had this issue. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 9:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone latest update I'll tell you why I don't want to. I'm panicky about that early-13 phone and VoiceOver problem where VO died when disconnecting from a telephone or FaceTime call. If that bug is till extant, I cannot possibly have that happen to me when I'm away from sighted asistance to turn the phone off. On 12/24/2019 8:01 PM, Mr. Ed wrote: > May I asked why you don't want to download IOS 13? > Mr. Ed > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/a7783d80-317c-9014-0692-64d0ccc83201%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/004301d5bb8b%2427ee3af0%2477cab0d0%24%40abe.midco.net.
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Jewel: The echo probably has a better speaker anyway. I don't like listening to music on my phone, as the sound quality is not very good, even for just news. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/112C88D7971B478A9E22D46F5B135F2B%40HollyPC.
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Holly! When I ask Siri to close the app, he does give instructions re how to, forcibly close it, but the problem that I have is that the radio is yapping all the time and it is difficult to hear what v/o is saying. I did, eventually, close Newstalk ZB, but I have no idea of which of my many flicks/swipes did it. I think that I will stick to the Echo for radio because I can just issue the command: "Alexa! Stop/GO TO SLEEP, SHUT UP!" and, although her feelings may be hurt, by my third choice, she does not show it, and does as she is bid! Jewel -- From: "Holly" Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 1:17 PM To: Subject: Re: iPhone latest update jewel: Just press the home button to get the home screen to come up, then press the home button twice quickly till the phone announces the app switcher, then listen for the station app and do a three finger swipe up to close the radio app. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A7657CEE26D34B45A9C117963503561B%40HollyPC. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/B2CE82C94AE74387930CD7C706E0D48B%40JewelPC.
Re: iPhone latest update
And baby makes three! SOLD! :-)] On 12/25/2019 4:09 PM, kheve...@earthlink.net wrote: Steve, I have been using 13.3 for couple weeks now and have never experienced that problem. Honostly think you will be fine to upgrade. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/cf9fe258-8f0b-bea8-6c34-66f34f0092ab%40gmail.com.
Re: iPhone latest update
"SHOULD" being the word, but my phone must be, unduly sensative about which two fingers I use! Jewel -- From: "Gordon" Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 1:17 PM To: Subject: Re: iPhone latest update A two finger double tap should work to stop playback. On 12/25/2019 6:07 PM, Jewel wrote: > 13.3 was installed in the wee small hours of this morning, and, to date, I > have found no > difference > in the performance of the phone. > However, there is one thing: not connected with 13.3 I think, but, when one > is listening to a > radio > station: in this case: Newstalk ZB, how does one turn the thing off? > > Jewel > > -- > From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net> > Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 7:44 AM > To: > Subject: RE: iPhone latest update > > But you can go to 13.3, and there is no problem with VoiceOver. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Steve Matzura > Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 10:46 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iPhone latest update > > I'll tell you why I don't want to. I'm panicky about that early-13 phone and > VoiceOver problem > where > VO died when disconnecting from a telephone or FaceTime call. If that bug is > till extant, I cannot > possibly have that happen to me when I'm away from sighted asistance to turn > the phone off. > > > On 12/24/2019 8:01 PM, Mr. Ed wrote: >> May I asked why you don't want to download IOS 13? >> Mr. Ed >> > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a > member's > post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly > rather than posting on the > list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list > owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/a7783d80-317c-9014-0692-64d0ccc83201%40gmail.com. > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1a5d2973-6b93-7585-6c0d-e58a7dc3ee13%40gordonradio.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/71C576DC78634D1E84120A15E1FA2A84%40JewelPC.
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OK, my heart is wending its way down from my throat back to its correct position. I'll do the update probably tonight. Sure wish there was a way to roll back that actually works. On 12/24/2019 11:25 PM, terri...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Steve, that bug seems to have been fixed as of 13.2.3. I have not had that problem since 13.1. Best, Terri13.3 -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2ea881c5-2b1b-31a4-0526-fc67b2ed5b34%40gmail.com.
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OK, that's two yeses. On 12/25/2019 1:44 PM, Carolyn wrote: But you can go to 13.3, and there is no problem with VoiceOver. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9b79e0b3-095f-5846-560e-ce6013a61253%40gmail.com.
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jewel: Just press the home button to get the home screen to come up, then press the home button twice quickly till the phone announces the app switcher, then listen for the station app and do a three finger swipe up to close the radio app. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A7657CEE26D34B45A9C117963503561B%40HollyPC.
Re: iPhone latest update
A two finger double tap should work to stop playback. On 12/25/2019 6:07 PM, Jewel wrote: 13.3 was installed in the wee small hours of this morning, and, to date, I have found no difference in the performance of the phone. However, there is one thing: not connected with 13.3 I think, but, when one is listening to a radio station: in this case: Newstalk ZB, how does one turn the thing off? Jewel -- From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 7:44 AM To: Subject: RE: iPhone latest update But you can go to 13.3, and there is no problem with VoiceOver. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 10:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone latest update I'll tell you why I don't want to. I'm panicky about that early-13 phone and VoiceOver problem where VO died when disconnecting from a telephone or FaceTime call. If that bug is till extant, I cannot possibly have that happen to me when I'm away from sighted asistance to turn the phone off. On 12/24/2019 8:01 PM, Mr. Ed wrote: May I asked why you don't want to download IOS 13? Mr. Ed -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/a7783d80-317c-9014-0692-64d0ccc83201%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1a5d2973-6b93-7585-6c0d-e58a7dc3ee13%40gordonradio.com.
Re: iPhone latest update
13.3 was installed in the wee small hours of this morning, and, to date, I have found no difference in the performance of the phone. However, there is one thing: not connected with 13.3 I think, but, when one is listening to a radio station: in this case: Newstalk ZB, how does one turn the thing off? Jewel -- From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 7:44 AM To: Subject: RE: iPhone latest update But you can go to 13.3, and there is no problem with VoiceOver. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 10:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone latest update I'll tell you why I don't want to. I'm panicky about that early-13 phone and VoiceOver problem where VO died when disconnecting from a telephone or FaceTime call. If that bug is till extant, I cannot possibly have that happen to me when I'm away from sighted asistance to turn the phone off. On 12/24/2019 8:01 PM, Mr. Ed wrote: > May I asked why you don't want to download IOS 13? > Mr. Ed > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/a7783d80-317c-9014-0692-64d0ccc83201%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/021401d5bb53%2461a06940%2424e13bc0%24%40windstream.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/8EC97765F0054DF7A26FA47E9282FE2B%40JewelPC.
RE: iPhone latest update
Steve, I have been using 13.3 for couple weeks now and have never experienced that problem. Honostly think you will be fine to upgrade. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 10:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone latest update I'll tell you why I don't want to. I'm panicky about that early-13 phone and VoiceOver problem where VO died when disconnecting from a telephone or FaceTime call. If that bug is till extant, I cannot possibly have that happen to me when I'm away from sighted asistance to turn the phone off. On 12/24/2019 8:01 PM, Mr. Ed wrote: > May I asked why you don't want to download IOS 13? > Mr. Ed > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/a7783d80-317c-9014-0692-64d0ccc83201%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/04a901d5bb67%249a0879d0%24ce196d70%24%40earthlink.net.
RE: iPhone latest update
But you can go to 13.3, and there is no problem with VoiceOver. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 10:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone latest update I'll tell you why I don't want to. I'm panicky about that early-13 phone and VoiceOver problem where VO died when disconnecting from a telephone or FaceTime call. If that bug is till extant, I cannot possibly have that happen to me when I'm away from sighted asistance to turn the phone off. On 12/24/2019 8:01 PM, Mr. Ed wrote: > May I asked why you don't want to download IOS 13? > Mr. Ed > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/a7783d80-317c-9014-0692-64d0ccc83201%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/021401d5bb53%2461a06940%2424e13bc0%24%40windstream.net.
RE: iPhone latest update
Hello Steve, that bug seems to have been fixed as of 13.2.3. I have not had that problem since 13.1. Best, Terri13.3 -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 8:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone latest update I'll tell you why I don't want to. I'm panicky about that early-13 phone and VoiceOver problem where VO died when disconnecting from a telephone or FaceTime call. If that bug is till extant, I cannot possibly have that happen to me when I'm away from sighted asistance to turn the phone off. On 12/24/2019 8:01 PM, Mr. Ed wrote: > May I asked why you don't want to download IOS 13? > Mr. Ed > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/a7783d80-317c-9014-0692-64d0ccc83201%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00e301d5badb%2448e41910%24daac4b30%24%40gmail.com.
Re: iPhone latest update
Absolutely not. It updates when I say it can, and I won't unless and until the aforementioned VoiceOver problem has definitely been fixed. Tell me that one's been squashed, and I'll lower the gates and let it in. Otherwise, no thank you. Don't need it, don't want it. On 12/24/2019 10:12 PM, Terri Hedgpeth wrote: ey guys, I do not understand this absolute fear of updating your iPhones. You’re going to have to do it at some point regardless. 13.3 has a lot of cool things in it and a lot of the bugs are gone. Please explain why you guys are so paranoid about updating? Best, Terri Hedgpeth -- Best, Terri Hedgpeth, Ed.D. -- -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/cf32a78c-f119-979c-fd21-0428b5ac9eb9%40gmail.com.
Re: iPhone latest update
Yes, looks that way. On 12/24/2019 3:33 PM, janet gross wrote: HI Steve, I think it might depend on which iPhone you have, as far as the iOS 12 updates. Although, I could very well be wrong, in which I wouldn't mind being wrong now, as I do not want the iOS 13 update either. I just downloaded the iOS 12.4.4, but that was on my iPhone 6, and I don't see that particular update on my xr iPhone though. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/101f71c5-f7a9-18f6-c85c-7f5e6f597fde%40gmail.com.
Re: iPhone latest update
OK, I guess it' 13.3 or bust. Maybe I'll get brave. On 12/24/2019 2:14 PM, Dave wrote: If your phone, is higher than an iPhone 6, then you can't do it. Dave. -Original Message- From: Steve Matzura Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 7:00 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone latest update Now there's a fine question: I'm on 12.4.1. If there are version 12 updates, how do I get them, and avoid installing 13.3, which I absolutely do not want to do? -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/5e45149f-8411-7f7d-3f9b-d0bbfcdc3323%40gmail.com.
Re: iPhone latest update
I'll tell you why I don't want to. I'm panicky about that early-13 phone and VoiceOver problem where VO died when disconnecting from a telephone or FaceTime call. If that bug is till extant, I cannot possibly have that happen to me when I'm away from sighted asistance to turn the phone off. On 12/24/2019 8:01 PM, Mr. Ed wrote: May I asked why you don't want to download IOS 13? Mr. Ed -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/a7783d80-317c-9014-0692-64d0ccc83201%40gmail.com.
Re: iPhone latest update
You can also put "Sounds" on the rotor and turn them off that way. On 12/23/2019 6:18 PM, Gordon wrote: It's been a little while since I've turned that stuff off on my phone, but I think you'll go to settings, accessibility, voice over and then audio if I remember correctly. On 12/23/2019 4:38 PM, Holly wrote: Hi all: Finally took the plunge and updated to 13.3. All good so far. I know it has been discussed before but forgot how to get rid of the clicks when swiping through a page on the screen. I went to settings, sounds and hapticks, but could not tell which option should be turned off. Thanks in advance. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/414c2e2d-cc86-f993-655a-1b2eae1d0ae5%40gmail.com.
Re: iPhone latest update
On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 7:33 PM Joshua Hendrickson wrote: > My iPhone almost began the update process. If I had entered in my > passcode my phone would have updated. However, I found the remind me > later button and that's what I double tapped on. I was also told that > if my iPhone were on power between 2 and 4 in the morning my iPhone > would update automatically. Well I won't have my iPhone connected to > AC power tonight. > > On 12/24/19, Mr. Ed wrote: > > If you have an iPhone 6 you will not be able to update it to IOS 13 or > > higher. But if you have a 6s or higher you can update to IOS 13 or > higher. > > If you have an 6s,6s plus,6 SE, 7, 7 plus, 8, 8 plus or higher why would > you > > not want to update to IOS 13. It workds quite well now. > > Mr. Ed > > > > -Original Message- > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf > > Of janet gross > > Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 2:33 PM > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > Subject: RE: iPhone latest update > > > > HI Steve, > > I think it might depend on which iPhone you have, as far as the iOS 12 > > updates. Although, I could very well be wrong, in which I wouldn't mind > > being wrong now, as I do not want the iOS 13 update either. I just > > downloaded the iOS 12.4.4, but that was on my iPhone 6, and I don't see > that > > particular update on my xr iPhone though. > > Janet > > > > -Original Message- > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf > > Of Steve Matzura > > Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 1:01 PM > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: iPhone latest update > > > > Now there's a fine question: I'm on 12.4.1. If there are version 12 > > updates, how do I get them, and avoid installing 13.3, which I > > absolutely do not want to do? > > > > > > On 12/24/2019 1:57 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: > >> I don't know how long they will last, but we got a security update > today, > >> to 12.4.4. It took a while to get straightened out, but if this iPhone 6 > >> would update to it, I would have long since updated it to 13. > >> > > > > -- > > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > > list. > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if > > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or > > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "VIPhone" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/cb5b7e10-5726-813e-5ec6-377b6071a964%40gmail.com > . > > > > -- > > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > > list. > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if > > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or > > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "VIPhone" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CY4PR13MB13033F91AE5CF39B11E097BBFC290%40CY4PR13MB1303.namprd13.prod.outlook.com > . > > > > -- > > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > > list. > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the runni
Re: iPhone latest update
My iPhone almost began the update process. If I had entered in my passcode my phone would have updated. However, I found the remind me later button and that's what I double tapped on. I was also told that if my iPhone were on power between 2 and 4 in the morning my iPhone would update automatically. Well I won't have my iPhone connected to AC power tonight. On 12/24/19, Mr. Ed wrote: > If you have an iPhone 6 you will not be able to update it to IOS 13 or > higher. But if you have a 6s or higher you can update to IOS 13 or higher. > If you have an 6s,6s plus,6 SE, 7, 7 plus, 8, 8 plus or higher why would you > not want to update to IOS 13. It workds quite well now. > Mr. Ed > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of janet gross > Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 2:33 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: iPhone latest update > > HI Steve, > I think it might depend on which iPhone you have, as far as the iOS 12 > updates. Although, I could very well be wrong, in which I wouldn't mind > being wrong now, as I do not want the iOS 13 update either. I just > downloaded the iOS 12.4.4, but that was on my iPhone 6, and I don't see that > particular update on my xr iPhone though. > Janet > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Steve Matzura > Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 1:01 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iPhone latest update > > Now there's a fine question: I'm on 12.4.1. If there are version 12 > updates, how do I get them, and avoid installing 13.3, which I > absolutely do not want to do? > > > On 12/24/2019 1:57 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: >> I don't know how long they will last, but we got a security update today, >> to 12.4.4. It took a while to get straightened out, but if this iPhone 6 >> would update to it, I would have long since updated it to 13. >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/cb5b7e10-5726-813e-5ec6-377b6071a964%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CY4PR13MB13033F91AE5CF39B11E097BBFC290%40CY4PR13MB1303.namprd13.prod.outlook.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To uns
RE: iPhone latest update
If you have an iPhone 6 you will not be able to update it to IOS 13 or higher. But if you have a 6s or higher you can update to IOS 13 or higher. If you have an 6s,6s plus,6 SE, 7, 7 plus, 8, 8 plus or higher why would you not want to update to IOS 13. It workds quite well now. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 2:33 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iPhone latest update HI Steve, I think it might depend on which iPhone you have, as far as the iOS 12 updates. Although, I could very well be wrong, in which I wouldn't mind being wrong now, as I do not want the iOS 13 update either. I just downloaded the iOS 12.4.4, but that was on my iPhone 6, and I don't see that particular update on my xr iPhone though. Janet -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 1:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone latest update Now there's a fine question: I'm on 12.4.1. If there are version 12 updates, how do I get them, and avoid installing 13.3, which I absolutely do not want to do? On 12/24/2019 1:57 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: > I don't know how long they will last, but we got a security update today, to > 12.4.4. It took a while to get straightened out, but if this iPhone 6 would > update to it, I would have long since updated it to 13. > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/cb5b7e10-5726-813e-5ec6-377b6071a964%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CY4PR13MB13033F91AE5CF39B11E097BBFC290%40CY4PR13MB1303.namprd13.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011901d5babf%24640e0d20%242c2a2760%24%40abe.midco.net.
RE: iPhone latest update
May I asked why you don't want to download IOS 13? Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 2:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iPhone latest update HI Joshua, I don't think you will get any iOS 12 updates unless you're on an iPhone 6 or less. I did download iOS 12.4.4, but that was for my iPhone 6, but I didn't see that update on my xr iPhone though. I still haven't downloaded iOS 13 as of yet either. Janet -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 1:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone latest update I'm wondering the same thing. I would want my phone to be updated to 12.44 if at all possible. On 12/24/19, Steve Matzura wrote: > Now there's a fine question: I'm on 12.4.1. If there are version 12 > updates, how do I get them, and avoid installing 13.3, which I > absolutely do not want to do? > > > On 12/24/2019 1:57 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: >> I don't know how long they will last, but we got a security update today, >> to 12.4.4. It took a while to get straightened out, but if this iPhone 6 >> would update to it, I would have long since updated it to 13. >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/cb5b7e10-5726-813e-5ec6-377b6071a964%40gmail.com. > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CADUoy9u5Vm2XZZ-B%3DAbcgx0o1Q4XhrnouhKHEnJV63oRNmCD8Q%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CY4PR13MB1303153BA6BAD5D4A87635DBFC290%40CY4PR13MB1303.namprd13.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-ar
RE: iPhone latest update
HI Steve, I think it might depend on which iPhone you have, as far as the iOS 12 updates. Although, I could very well be wrong, in which I wouldn't mind being wrong now, as I do not want the iOS 13 update either. I just downloaded the iOS 12.4.4, but that was on my iPhone 6, and I don't see that particular update on my xr iPhone though. Janet -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 1:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone latest update Now there's a fine question: I'm on 12.4.1. If there are version 12 updates, how do I get them, and avoid installing 13.3, which I absolutely do not want to do? On 12/24/2019 1:57 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: > I don't know how long they will last, but we got a security update today, to > 12.4.4. It took a while to get straightened out, but if this iPhone 6 would > update to it, I would have long since updated it to 13. > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/cb5b7e10-5726-813e-5ec6-377b6071a964%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CY4PR13MB13033F91AE5CF39B11E097BBFC290%40CY4PR13MB1303.namprd13.prod.outlook.com.
Re: iPhone latest update
I think that is unfortunate. But then, I guess they want to encourage those who can to update to 13. If I could, I would. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Dec 24, 2019, at 3:15 PM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote: Dave is correct. I just talked to apple accessibility and that's what I was told as well. > On 12/24/19, Dave wrote: > If your phone, is higher than an iPhone 6, then you can't do it. > > Dave. > > > -Original Message- > From: Steve Matzura > Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 7:00 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iPhone latest update > > Now there's a fine question: I'm on 12.4.1. If there are version 12 > updates, how do I get them, and avoid installing 13.3, which I > absolutely do not want to do? > > >> On 12/24/2019 1:57 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: >> I don't know how long they will last, but we got a security update today, >> >> to 12.4.4. It took a while to get straightened out, but if this iPhone 6 >> would update to it, I would have long since updated it to 13. >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/cb5b7e10-5726-813e-5ec6-377b6071a964%40gmail.com. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/EF5604CF0EC146A491CB1ABFDF2E2AA2%40DaveTOSH. > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CADUoy9upCrz0ePfhboEkvtwraThjTYEnGYoTdhLfEm3JD8nb0A%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/B2735F5D-30BB-4A6C-9ABE-DBCA19D2E820%40gmail.com.
RE: iPhone latest update
HI Joshua, I don't think you will get any iOS 12 updates unless you're on an iPhone 6 or less. I did download iOS 12.4.4, but that was for my iPhone 6, but I didn't see that update on my xr iPhone though. I still haven't downloaded iOS 13 as of yet either. Janet -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 1:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone latest update I'm wondering the same thing. I would want my phone to be updated to 12.44 if at all possible. On 12/24/19, Steve Matzura wrote: > Now there's a fine question: I'm on 12.4.1. If there are version 12 > updates, how do I get them, and avoid installing 13.3, which I > absolutely do not want to do? > > > On 12/24/2019 1:57 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: >> I don't know how long they will last, but we got a security update today, >> to 12.4.4. It took a while to get straightened out, but if this iPhone 6 >> would update to it, I would have long since updated it to 13. >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/cb5b7e10-5726-813e-5ec6-377b6071a964%40gmail.com. > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CADUoy9u5Vm2XZZ-B%3DAbcgx0o1Q4XhrnouhKHEnJV63oRNmCD8Q%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CY4PR13MB1303153BA6BAD5D4A87635DBFC290%40CY4PR13MB1303.namprd13.prod.outlook.com.
RE: iPhone latest update
That is most certainly correct. Since Apple stopped signing iOS 12 a long time ago, if you update, you will get 13.3. on any device newer than an iPhone 6. Having said that, there might be a way to dig up the full operating system install file from the Internet Archive. But, that is way beyond my pay-grade, grin. I know someone found a lot of the Jaws Scripts from a page that was taken down. The Internet Archive is a nonprofit group that is trying to retain everything that appears on the web. So, they may have archived the Apple previous versions if one really wants to go through the work to avoid 13.3. Richard 🖖 Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 12:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone latest update Dave is correct. I just talked to apple accessibility and that's what I was told as well. On 12/24/19, Dave wrote: > If your phone, is higher than an iPhone 6, then you can't do it. > > Dave. > > > -Original Message- > From: Steve Matzura > Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 7:00 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iPhone latest update > > Now there's a fine question: I'm on 12.4.1. If there are version 12 > updates, how do I get them, and avoid installing 13.3, which I > absolutely do not want to do? > > > On 12/24/2019 1:57 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: >> I don't know how long they will last, but we got a security update >> today, >> >> to 12.4.4. It took a while to get straightened out, but if this >> iPhone 6 would update to it, I would have long since updated it to 13. >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if > > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or > > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.m > ail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C > b566deb318374bce519208d788adf8fe%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C > 1%7C0%7C637128153088597690&sdata=uz8xodhXkPxIqofkYeHWHiVJ45TC2qPly > uo8QkbrxTs%3D&reserved=0 > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2Fcb5b7e10-5726-813e-5ec6-377b6071a964%2540gmail.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb566deb318374bce519208d788adf8fe%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637128153088597690&sdata=d1HZPX1IF74okZf60h44R8q0nSVnvbfP5ApD8mMzC%2BU%3D&reserved=0. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.m > ail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C > b566deb318374bce519208d788adf8fe%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C > 1%7C0%7C637128153088597690&sdata=uz8xodhXkPxIqofkYeHWHiVJ45TC2qPly > uo8QkbrxTs%3D&reserved=0 > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FEF5604CF0EC146A491CB1ABFDF2E2AA2%2540DaveTOSH&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb566deb318374bce519208d788adf8fe%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637128153088597690&sdata=edV7S3KytkMCVlobzb2IGyD4Y4ONlYOPiK%2BdBaXCu54%3D&reserved
RE: iPhone latest update
HI All, Yes, I just downloaded iOS 12.4.4 to my iPhone 6. I have to admit though, I was quite surprised to see this update. Janet -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 1:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone latest update As I wrote in another message, it is up to 12.4.4 now. It downloaded itself to my phone earlier today, even though I have automatic updates turned off. I will install it later today. Go into settings, general, software updates, and have it check, it should find it. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Dec 24, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote: I'm wondering the same thing. I would want my phone to be updated to 12.44 if at all possible. > On 12/24/19, Steve Matzura wrote: > Now there's a fine question: I'm on 12.4.1. If there are version 12 > updates, how do I get them, and avoid installing 13.3, which I > absolutely do not want to do? > > >> On 12/24/2019 1:57 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: >> I don't know how long they will last, but we got a security update today, >> to 12.4.4. It took a while to get straightened out, but if this iPhone 6 >> would update to it, I would have long since updated it to 13. >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/cb5b7e10-5726-813e-5ec6-377b6071a964%40gmail.com. > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CADUoy9u5Vm2XZZ-B%3DAbcgx0o1Q4XhrnouhKHEnJV63oRNmCD8Q%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/0EB20247-E8E6-4705-B750-BC938CF27123%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are sub
Re: iPhone latest update
Dave is correct. I just talked to apple accessibility and that's what I was told as well. On 12/24/19, Dave wrote: > If your phone, is higher than an iPhone 6, then you can't do it. > > Dave. > > > -Original Message- > From: Steve Matzura > Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 7:00 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iPhone latest update > > Now there's a fine question: I'm on 12.4.1. If there are version 12 > updates, how do I get them, and avoid installing 13.3, which I > absolutely do not want to do? > > > On 12/24/2019 1:57 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: >> I don't know how long they will last, but we got a security update today, >> >> to 12.4.4. It took a while to get straightened out, but if this iPhone 6 >> would update to it, I would have long since updated it to 13. >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/cb5b7e10-5726-813e-5ec6-377b6071a964%40gmail.com. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/EF5604CF0EC146A491CB1ABFDF2E2AA2%40DaveTOSH. > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CADUoy9upCrz0ePfhboEkvtwraThjTYEnGYoTdhLfEm3JD8nb0A%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: iPhone latest update
If your phone, is higher than an iPhone 6, then you can't do it. Dave. -Original Message- From: Steve Matzura Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 7:00 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone latest update Now there's a fine question: I'm on 12.4.1. If there are version 12 updates, how do I get them, and avoid installing 13.3, which I absolutely do not want to do? On 12/24/2019 1:57 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I don't know how long they will last, but we got a security update today, to 12.4.4. It took a while to get straightened out, but if this iPhone 6 would update to it, I would have long since updated it to 13. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/cb5b7e10-5726-813e-5ec6-377b6071a964%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/EF5604CF0EC146A491CB1ABFDF2E2AA2%40DaveTOSH.
Re: iPhone latest update
As I wrote in another message, it is up to 12.4.4 now. It downloaded itself to my phone earlier today, even though I have automatic updates turned off. I will install it later today. Go into settings, general, software updates, and have it check, it should find it. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Dec 24, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote: I'm wondering the same thing. I would want my phone to be updated to 12.44 if at all possible. > On 12/24/19, Steve Matzura wrote: > Now there's a fine question: I'm on 12.4.1. If there are version 12 > updates, how do I get them, and avoid installing 13.3, which I > absolutely do not want to do? > > >> On 12/24/2019 1:57 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: >> I don't know how long they will last, but we got a security update today, >> to 12.4.4. It took a while to get straightened out, but if this iPhone 6 >> would update to it, I would have long since updated it to 13. >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/cb5b7e10-5726-813e-5ec6-377b6071a964%40gmail.com. > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CADUoy9u5Vm2XZZ-B%3DAbcgx0o1Q4XhrnouhKHEnJV63oRNmCD8Q%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/0EB20247-E8E6-4705-B750-BC938CF27123%40gmail.com.
Re: iPhone latest update
I'm wondering the same thing. I would want my phone to be updated to 12.44 if at all possible. On 12/24/19, Steve Matzura wrote: > Now there's a fine question: I'm on 12.4.1. If there are version 12 > updates, how do I get them, and avoid installing 13.3, which I > absolutely do not want to do? > > > On 12/24/2019 1:57 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: >> I don't know how long they will last, but we got a security update today, >> to 12.4.4. It took a while to get straightened out, but if this iPhone 6 >> would update to it, I would have long since updated it to 13. >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/cb5b7e10-5726-813e-5ec6-377b6071a964%40gmail.com. > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CADUoy9u5Vm2XZZ-B%3DAbcgx0o1Q4XhrnouhKHEnJV63oRNmCD8Q%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: iPhone latest update
Now there's a fine question: I'm on 12.4.1. If there are version 12 updates, how do I get them, and avoid installing 13.3, which I absolutely do not want to do? On 12/24/2019 1:57 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I don't know how long they will last, but we got a security update today, to 12.4.4. It took a while to get straightened out, but if this iPhone 6 would update to it, I would have long since updated it to 13. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/cb5b7e10-5726-813e-5ec6-377b6071a964%40gmail.com.
Re: iPhone latest update
I don't know how long they will last, but we got a security update today, to 12.4.4. It took a while to get straightened out, but if this iPhone 6 would update to it, I would have long since updated it to 13. Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Dec 24, 2019, at 12:48 PM, Mr. Ed wrote: Also you don't get security updates if you stay on IOS 12. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 9:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone latest update How about the automatic battery conservation feature? I like how iOS 13 is designed to increase wear and tear on the battery, extending its life. Kelly > On 12/23/19, Joshua Hendrickson wrote: > I will still not by choice update my iPhone 8 to IOS 13. My iPhone is > working perfectly fine for me at present. I can't think of anything > about IOS 13 that would make me want to update. > >> On 12/23/19, Holly wrote: >> Richard: >> >> Thanks. I didn’t mind the clicks, but they were just too loud. Adjusted >> them down to an acceptable level for me. >> >> All is good now. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >> or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2D23A2D7B3E541F6AB503B9DA00D418C%40HollyPC. >> > > > -- > Joshua Hendrickson > > Joshua Hendrickson > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CADUoy9syvTSsQUfBUXNrqKT81pvPw1%3DQkbKX2zLJCA%2B%3DLwY9WA%40mail.gmail.com. > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAOQRLb_3gcPLdZ_fp%2B_-WCC%3Dd6wSzqhwbtQ_ZA8FA0hxhUzq4w%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can
RE: iPhone latest update
Also you don't get security updates if you stay on IOS 12. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 9:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone latest update How about the automatic battery conservation feature? I like how iOS 13 is designed to increase wear and tear on the battery, extending its life. Kelly On 12/23/19, Joshua Hendrickson wrote: > I will still not by choice update my iPhone 8 to IOS 13. My iPhone is > working perfectly fine for me at present. I can't think of anything > about IOS 13 that would make me want to update. > > On 12/23/19, Holly wrote: >> Richard: >> >> Thanks. I didn’t mind the clicks, but they were just too loud. Adjusted >> them down to an acceptable level for me. >> >> All is good now. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >> or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2D23A2D7B3E541F6AB503B9DA00D418C%40HollyPC. >> > > > -- > Joshua Hendrickson > > Joshua Hendrickson > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CADUoy9syvTSsQUfBUXNrqKT81pvPw1%3DQkbKX2zLJCA%2B%3DLwY9WA%40mail.gmail.com. > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAOQRLb_3gcPLdZ_fp%2B_-WCC%3Dd6wSzqhwbtQ_ZA8FA0hxhUzq4w%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00a301d5ba82%2449e95180%24ddbbf480%24%40abe.midco.net.
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How about the automatic battery conservation feature? I like how iOS 13 is designed to increase wear and tear on the battery, extending its life. Kelly On 12/23/19, Joshua Hendrickson wrote: > I will still not by choice update my iPhone 8 to IOS 13. My iPhone is > working perfectly fine for me at present. I can't think of anything > about IOS 13 that would make me want to update. > > On 12/23/19, Holly wrote: >> Richard: >> >> Thanks. I didn’t mind the clicks, but they were just too loud. Adjusted >> them down to an acceptable level for me. >> >> All is good now. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >> or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2D23A2D7B3E541F6AB503B9DA00D418C%40HollyPC. >> > > > -- > Joshua Hendrickson > > Joshua Hendrickson > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CADUoy9syvTSsQUfBUXNrqKT81pvPw1%3DQkbKX2zLJCA%2B%3DLwY9WA%40mail.gmail.com. > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAOQRLb_3gcPLdZ_fp%2B_-WCC%3Dd6wSzqhwbtQ_ZA8FA0hxhUzq4w%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: iPhone latest update
I will still not by choice update my iPhone 8 to IOS 13. My iPhone is working perfectly fine for me at present. I can't think of anything about IOS 13 that would make me want to update. On 12/23/19, Holly wrote: > Richard: > > Thanks. I didn’t mind the clicks, but they were just too loud. Adjusted > them down to an acceptable level for me. > > All is good now. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2D23A2D7B3E541F6AB503B9DA00D418C%40HollyPC. > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CADUoy9syvTSsQUfBUXNrqKT81pvPw1%3DQkbKX2zLJCA%2B%3DLwY9WA%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: iPhone latest update
Richard: Thanks. I didn’t mind the clicks, but they were just too loud. Adjusted them down to an acceptable level for me. All is good now. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2D23A2D7B3E541F6AB503B9DA00D418C%40HollyPC.
RE: iPhone latest update
You can adjust all that now in those settings. It has its own volume, though I haven’t tried it as the clicks don’t’ bother me. Richard 🖖 Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Holly Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 5:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone latest update Richard: Turning off ‘sounds’ stopped the clicking noise while swiping. As I remembered in the old version, the clicks were there, but they were not as loud. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cec19887991a24c47cd0f08d7881258f5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637127484682997052&sdata=65iDgFR5cUa3Eb05UMXsKEgZbCrFZ6tI8fdcJAIl15w%3D&reserved=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/3729C697D2654058B9C5206F94FEB466%40HollyPC<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F3729C697D2654058B9C5206F94FEB466%2540HollyPC%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cec19887991a24c47cd0f08d7881258f5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637127484683007057&sdata=YNnoW5lt6zn6KxoXy3NywdPjjgGzfYNt3vFLvBOe6Zc%3D&reserved=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR1701MB1901882EB6262CE93D228B4EB7290%40MWHPR1701MB1901.namprd17.prod.outlook.com.
Re: iPhone latest update
Richard: Turning off ‘sounds’ stopped the clicking noise while swiping. As I remembered in the old version, the clicks were there, but they were not as loud. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/3729C697D2654058B9C5206F94FEB466%40HollyPC.
Re: iPhone latest update
So, if you want VoiceOver silent when flicking, did you try going to Accessibility, VoiceOver, Audio, Sound, and turning it off there? That seems to turn off all the sounds. Or, you can go through each sound setting in there and preview each one and then decide if you want to turn it off. The main ones you are maybe talking about are the ones with item in their name. HTH, Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Dec 23, 2019, at 4:48 PM, Holly wrote: Gordon: Couldn't find anything in the audio section that seemed to pertain to the clicks. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C16e93796cd064e879dab08d7880b09be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637127453291471434&sdata=QW1cqyipJxopX6q1ZwrSDgWYmq7B2QmHaGNgMGY8bGk%3D&reserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F7986D0E96C75418D94C28979CC74ED09%2540HollyPC&data=02%7C01%7C%7C16e93796cd064e879dab08d7880b09be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637127453291471434&sdata=G8ByCi%2BWjbVHYKeWFh7UvuYzm%2BhaPXaMrlKxTNqMqWE%3D&reserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR1701MB1901FE2B9150BCA7824D3B19B7290%40MWHPR1701MB1901.namprd17.prod.outlook.com.
Re: iPhone latest update
Gordon: Couldn't find anything in the audio section that seemed to pertain to the clicks. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/7986D0E96C75418D94C28979CC74ED09%40HollyPC.
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It's been a little while since I've turned that stuff off on my phone, but I think you'll go to settings, accessibility, voice over and then audio if I remember correctly. On 12/23/2019 4:38 PM, Holly wrote: Hi all: Finally took the plunge and updated to 13.3. All good so far. I know it has been discussed before but forgot how to get rid of the clicks when swiping through a page on the screen. I went to settings, sounds and hapticks, but could not tell which option should be turned off. Thanks in advance. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/f33ce379-d1da-fb3d-b3dc-b29b095a3608%40gordonradio.com.