RE: authenticator explanation

2021-05-26 Thread Anthony Borg
Excellent explanation thanks. 

Regards 

 

Anthony 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 26 May 2021 18:52
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Subject: RE: authenticator explanation

 

Authenticator apps are for accounts where you use 2-factor authentication. 
Typically after you put in your user name and password a code will be emailed 
or texted to you and you have to then enter this code. If you use an 
authenticator code, then the app will generate the code you use, of course you 
have to specify on whichever website, let's say on Dropbox, that you are using 
an authenticator app and you then have to set up the app for Dropbox which 
generally involves scanning a QR code on the computer screen.

With Microsoft, Google and some others this approach goes a step further in 
that your iPhone itself along with the Microsoft Authenticator app (in the case 
of Microsoft) is used for authentication. If I log into my Outlook.com account 
from a computer which is not on the trusted computer list, a notification is 
sent to the authenticator app on my iPhone. It pops up just like any 
notification on my phone and when I tap on it the authenticator app opens, I am 
asked if I want to allow or reject the login attempt and if I tap allow it uses 
my Face Id for verification and, in some cases, it even asks you to confirm one 
of three numbers which would be displayed on your computer's screen. So, for 
example, it may say "Tap the number displayed" and then on the computer screen 
let's say it shows the number 48, on my iPhone screen I see 17, 48 and 63 so 
then I tap on 48 and at this point the app communicates to my login attempt 
that everything was authenticated and I get logged in.

If you use 2-factor authentication for Google you can set it up to use the 
Google app on your iPhone for verification. It's currently probably one of the 
most secure methods because even if somebody had your phone they would not be 
able to authenticate the login because your Face Id or Touch Id would be 
needed. If you get the code sent to your iPhone via text message and as many do 
have it set up to show text messages on the lock screen, then as long as 
somebody had access to your phone they could log in and simply read the code 
which was sent on your lock screen.

It's actually somewhat ironic that you can set up 2-factor verification for 
many accounts such as Microsoft, Google, Apple, Dropbox etc. but most banks and 
credit card companies do not support or offer this.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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Subject: authenticator explanation

 

Hi 

 

Can someone explain more fully the usage of the Authenticator app please? 

Thanks in advance 

 

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RE: authenticator explanation

2021-05-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Authenticator apps are for accounts where you use 2-factor authentication. 
Typically after you put in your user name and password a code will be emailed 
or texted to you and you have to then enter this code. If you use an 
authenticator code, then the app will generate the code you use, of course you 
have to specify on whichever website, let's say on Dropbox, that you are using 
an authenticator app and you then have to set up the app for Dropbox which 
generally involves scanning a QR code on the computer screen.
With Microsoft, Google and some others this approach goes a step further in 
that your iPhone itself along with the Microsoft Authenticator app (in the case 
of Microsoft) is used for authentication. If I log into my Outlook.com account 
from a computer which is not on the trusted computer list, a notification is 
sent to the authenticator app on my iPhone. It pops up just like any 
notification on my phone and when I tap on it the authenticator app opens, I am 
asked if I want to allow or reject the login attempt and if I tap allow it uses 
my Face Id for verification and, in some cases, it even asks you to confirm one 
of three numbers which would be displayed on your computer's screen. So, for 
example, it may say "Tap the number displayed" and then on the computer screen 
let's say it shows the number 48, on my iPhone screen I see 17, 48 and 63 so 
then I tap on 48 and at this point the app communicates to my login attempt 
that everything was authenticated and I get logged in.
If you use 2-factor authentication for Google you can set it up to use the 
Google app on your iPhone for verification. It's currently probably one of the 
most secure methods because even if somebody had your phone they would not be 
able to authenticate the login because your Face Id or Touch Id would be 
needed. If you get the code sent to your iPhone via text message and as many do 
have it set up to show text messages on the lock screen, then as long as 
somebody had access to your phone they could log in and simply read the code 
which was sent on your lock screen.
It's actually somewhat ironic that you can set up 2-factor verification for 
many accounts such as Microsoft, Google, Apple, Dropbox etc. but most banks and 
credit card companies do not support or offer this.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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Borg
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 5:51 AM
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Subject: authenticator explanation

Hi

Can someone explain more fully the usage of the Authenticator app please?
Thanks in advance

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authenticator explanation

2021-05-26 Thread Anthony Borg
Hi 

 

Can someone explain more fully the usage of the Authenticator app please? 

Thanks in advance 

 

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RE: explanation

2021-03-29 Thread Anthony Borg
Hi 

 

Infact, that’s what I want to do, but there isn’t any share button. 

Anthony  

 

From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone  
Sent: 28 March 2021 21:57
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Are you able to share the file,

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 28, 2021, at 1:34 PM, Anthony Borg mailto:anthonyborg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hello list 

 

Can somebody tell me if there is away how to transfer a voice message in 
Whatsapp to a pc via email and if so, can you please explain to me how to do 
it? 

Thanks in advance 

 

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Re: explanation

2021-03-28 Thread 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone
Are you able to share the file,

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 28, 2021, at 1:34 PM, Anthony Borg  wrote:
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> Hello list
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> Can somebody tell me if there is away how to transfer a voice message in 
> Whatsapp to a pc via email and if so, can you please explain to me how to do 
> it?
> Thanks in advance
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explanation

2021-03-28 Thread Anthony Borg
Hello list 

 

Can somebody tell me if there is away how to transfer a voice message in
Whatsapp to a pc via email and if so, can you please explain to me how to do
it? 

Thanks in advance 

 

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Explanation of the structure and architecture with in Apple iOS software and with in apps, Rita’s iDevice Advice

2021-03-09 Thread Mike B
Hi All,

I thought some of you might be interested in this article.



From: Rita Howells
Explanation of the structure and architecture with in Apple iOS software and
with in apps:  Rita’s iDevice Advice for March 8, 2021


The below information comes from the San Francisco Lighthouse for the Blind.
Contact information is at the bottom.

Further down, is some visual description of the icons on an Apple iOS
Device.


Explanation of the structure and architecture in Apple iOS software and with
in apps:
App architecture:

The top of the screen
•Back button. The back button typically lives at or near the top-left
corner of your screen. When pressed, it will take you back to the previous
screen, category or menu. Visually, it is represented by a left-arrow. With
Voiceover, you may hear something like, “Settings, back button.” Voiceover
is reporting the back button as well as the previous category you will
return to if this button is pressed.
•Edit button. Edit buttons also live near the top-left corner of your
screen in native iOS apps. The edit button lets you make changes to the
information on the current screen. For example, finding your contact card,
and then finding the Edit button will let you edit your own contact
information.
•Done button. When you are finished making changes to information, you
can find the Done button near the top-left corner of your screen. This acts
as a confirmation button to save the changes you’ve made. This may also
appear as a Save button.
•Cancel button. This button occurs at the top-left corner in many native
iOS apps. It will cancel any changes you’ve made and close out the screen.

The bottom of the screen
Tab bars
A tab bar is a set of two to five tabs that let you move to different
sections of an app. It lies along the bottom of your screen from left to
right. Visually, tabs are often translucent, and may or may not have a
background tint to them. Let’s use the phone app as an example of what
Voiceover may report when encountering a tab bar.
•Tab bar announcement. As of iOS 14, Voiceover will announce that you
have encountered a tab bar when focus moves to the bottom of the screen.
•Tab name. Voiceover will announce the name of the tab you’ve
encountered. For example, “Keypad, tab.”
•Tab position. Voiceover will announce the position of the focused tab
in relation to how many tabs there are. For example, “Keypad, tab, 4 of 5.”
•Selection. When you double-tap a tab, its content will appear on the
screen. Along with this, you will hear that your chosen tab is selected. For
example, “Selected, keypad tab, 4 of 5.”

Tool bars
Just like a tab bar, a tool bar is a set of buttons that lies along the
bottom of your screen from left to right. Tab bars let you move between
sections of an app, whereas tool bars give you a list of actions to perform.
An easy tool bar to explore appears in your Safari app, which serves as your
internet browser. Let’s talk about what you will hear.
•Tool bar announcement. As of iOS 14, Voiceover will announce that you
have encountered a tool bar when focus moves to the bottom of the screen.
•Button name. Tool bars contain buttons that can be pressed to perform
actions. In Safari’s tool bar, you may hear, “Share, button.” Double-tapping
this will bring up an iOS share sheet.

The middle of the screen
This is where the main content of your app will appear. Let’s talk about
what you’ll find.
•Items. The items in your app will be different depending on which app
you’re working in. In the Voicemail tab of your Phone app, your items are
voicemails. In your inbox of your Mail app, your items are emails.
•Categories. These are sets of items or selectable options. Your
Settings app contains a wealth of categories represented by buttons.
•Actions. These are actions related to working with the individual item
you’ve found. These actions can vary depending on which app you’re in.
Voiceover will report to you that actions are available. This means you can
swipe up or down to move through your list of actions, and double-tap to
perform an action. Visually, lists of actions may appear after you perform a
long-press on an item, or they may appear as a button with three dots that
needs to be pressed.

Scrolling through content
There are a few ways to scroll through pages of content in an app.
•Headings. Headings separate your app into sections for easier
navigation. You can use the headings item in your rotor to move through
these. Use your rotate gesture until you hear, “Headings.” Swipe up to move
to the previous heading, and swipe down to move to the next heading.
•Scroll gestures. Voiceover lets you scroll with three-finger swipe
gestures. Swipe up with three fingers to scroll down, and swipe down with
three fingers to scroll up. While scrolling, Voiceover will report your
position and progress. You will hear things like, “Rows 1 through 10 of 50.
Rows 10 through 20 of 50,” etc.
•Indexes. An index is

RE: explanation, iPhone clock

2020-12-11 Thread anthonyborg001
Many thanks Richard for the info, 

and sorry for my bad explanation. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 10 December 2020 19:17
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Subject: RE: explanation, iPhone clock

 

Hi,

I added the words, iPhone clock to the subject line to help make it clear what 
you need help with.

 

You could try the Raise To Wake feature under settings, display and brightness.

 

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Can anyone explain to me how to make the iphone clock announcing time when you 
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RE: explanation, iPhone clock

2020-12-10 Thread Richard Turner
Hi,
I added the words, iPhone clock to the subject line to help make it clear what 
you need help with.

You could try the Raise To Wake feature under settings, display and brightness.

HTH,

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Hello all

Can anyone explain to me how to make the iphone clock announcing time when you 
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explanation

2020-12-10 Thread anthonyborg001
Hello all 

 

Can anyone explain to me how to make the iphone clock announcing time when
you pick it up or moving it. 

Thanks in advance 

 

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RE: need explanation

2020-02-10 Thread Anthony Borg
Many thanks once again richard for your good explanation. 

Regards 

 

Anthony 

 

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Turner
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Subject: Re: need explanation

 

In Voice Dream Reader, open the photo, select Document at the top, then choose 
export original file. 

In photos you select the photo and then choose share.

 

 

 

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Hi Anthony,

Select the photo and see if it has a Share or Export option. YOu can use those 
options to get the format you want and share via email.

Best,
Anna





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Hi folks 

 

I have a photo in the voice dream reader in my iphone and I need to know

what I should do to attach it to an email, can anyone help me please? 

Thanks in advance 

 

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Re: need explanation

2020-02-10 Thread Richard Turner
In Voice Dream Reader, open the photo, select Document at the top, then choose 
export original file.
In photos you select the photo and then choose share.




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On Feb 10, 2020, at 7:31 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hi Anthony,

Select the photo and see if it has a Share or Export option. YOu can use those 
options to get the format you want and share via email.

Best,
Anna


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Hi folks

I have a photo in the voice dream reader in my iphone and I need to know
what I should do to attach it to an email, can anyone help me please?
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Re: need explanation

2020-02-10 Thread Anna Dresner
Hi Anthony,

Select the photo and see if it has a Share or Export option. YOu can use those 
options to get the format you want and share via email.

Best,
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> Thanks in advance 
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need explanation

2020-02-10 Thread Anthony Borg
Hi folks 

I have a photo in the voice dream reader in my iphone and I need to know
what I should do to attach it to an email, can anyone help me please? 
Thanks in advance 

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explanation how to do the back up from the itunes

2019-09-02 Thread Anthony Borg
Hi folks 
I did the back up of my iphone in the itunes on my computer. So my question
is, 
What is the way how to do a back up from the itunes if something goes wrong
with my iphone? 
Thanks in advance 
Anthony 

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Re: explanation

2019-08-24 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
In voice dream reader, double tap on Document at top left of screen. You can 
then select Export original document and then selectMail or select Export all 
text and then select Mail. From Voice Dream Scanner, you have to highlight the 
scan and then double tap on Save to save it first to voice dream reader before 
exporting it as above. 
Harry

> On 24 Aug 2019, at 09:50, Alex Stone  wrote:
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> I don’t think you can, unfortunately.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> Hi list 
>> Could somebody explain to me please how to send a text or an a document from
>> the voice dreamer scanner or voice dreamer reader by email to somebody else?
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>> With thanks in advance 
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Re: explanation

2019-08-24 Thread Alex Stone
I don’t think you can, unfortunately.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 24 Aug 2019, at 09:22, Anthony Borg  wrote:
> 
> Hi list 
> Could somebody explain to me please how to send a text or an a document from
> the voice dreamer scanner or voice dreamer reader by email to somebody else?
> 
> With thanks in advance 
> Anthony 
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explanation

2019-08-24 Thread Anthony Borg
Hi list 
Could somebody explain to me please how to send a text or an a document from
the voice dreamer scanner or voice dreamer reader by email to somebody else?

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RE: I phone is now working after update. Here is the complete explanation. Was Re: iPhone seems to have died during update

2016-08-04 Thread Chip Orange
I have also seen charging only USB cables (not lightning though); these came as 
a an included cable about 6 inches long for some device which required a USB 
charger, and I think the manufacturer saved a few pennies by creating this 
charging only cable, which I’m guessing did not include lines for data 
transmission.  They frustrate me because I sometimes grab them by mistake, and 
then find my device won’t transfer data properly, until I recall that I owned a 
few of these charging only cables.

 

Chip

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lea W Langley
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I phone is now working after update. Here is the complete 
explanation. Was Re: iPhone seems to have died during update

 

Hi Sieghard,
How do you know if the cable you buy is Apple certified. I didn't even know 
that there was such a thing as an Apple certified cable. Thank you for the 
information. My iPhone is a 5S. I only just now found your message in my junk 
email. So I'm sorry for taking a little while to get back to you. Thank you 
again. God bless,
Wren Langley


Sent from my iPhone


On May 18, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I have never seen a cable that could only charge and not charge and sync except 
of course a complete Monoprice Lightning AC adapter which is a 6 foot lightning 
cable hardwired into an AC wall adapter rather than a Lightning cable with a 
regular USB plug on one end which can plug into a computer or a separate USB 
wall adapter. I have had cables from Monoprice, Amazon Basics cables, 
inexpensive cables I picked up from Best Buy and all worked just fine. As long 
as you buy a cable which is Apple certified it will work without issues.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lea W Langley
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 6:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I phone is now working after update. Here is the complete explanation. 
Was Re: iPhone seems to have died during update

 

First of all I would like to thank all of you for your help and for your 
suggestions and opinions. The problem with iTunes was this:
The download kept timing out, so I tunes with state would say problem with 
update and want me to start the update again. Finally I just decided to 
continue hitting the update button when I was told there was a problem, and 
eventually the whole update it downloaded after that the whole process went 
smoothly. The person at Apple said that sometimes the downloads do stop, and 
that the software is written to pick up where it leaves off when you restart 
the download. He said a lot of software is written to take care of things that 
happen as it is being used. I reconnected the iPhone and it said extracting 
software. Now there was another problem. There appear that there are some 
cables that are only for charging purposes, and others that will do the update 
as well as the charge. The person that I talk to at Apple said that Bilken is 
the only one besides Apple that will do both the charging and the updating.
I also was told that a lot of times we are at the mercy of the Internet so the 
update can die, and then as I did, you have to start all over.

 

In his opinion, he feels that it is more stable to use iTunes and update from 
there an over the air with Wi-Fi.
Again thank you all for your help and suggestions and thank you for telling me 
how to put the phone in recovery mode. God bless, Wren Langley PS. I'm sharing 
all of this information as it might be of some help to someone later. I 
couldn't get a ride to the Apple store yesterday, so I'm very grateful that my 
phone is working again. I also would like to give credit to God above, because 
I prayed a lot and I know that I received help from him. To get my phone 
working again.


Sent from my iPhone


On May 17, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:

This is a 5 s. I tried to help her by putting her phone in recovery mode and it 
was still giving us problems. She is on the phone with Apple now I guess. She 
had a bad cable. Thanks to everyone who responded. I think she got it. 





On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:39 AM -0700, "Sieghard Weitzel"  
wrote:

What model iPhone is this?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 7:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone seems to have died during update

 

hi Dave, and the rest of you. Thank you for all of the hints and that helps. 
The first way I did it was just by Wi-Fi. When it wouldn't come back on after 
an hour, that is when I tried connecting it to iTunes on the computer hoping 
that I could fix it that way. God bless, Wren Langley

Sent from my iPad


On May 17, 2016, at 9:33 AM, Dave  wrote:

in the future. don’t use iTunes. Just connect you

Re: I phone is now working after update. Here is the complete explanation. Was Re: iPhone seems to have died during update

2016-05-19 Thread Lea W Langley
Hi Sieghard,
How do you know if the cable you buy is Apple certified. I didn't even know 
that there was such a thing as an Apple certified cable. Thank you for the 
information. My iPhone is a 5S. I only just now found your message in my junk 
email. So I'm sorry for taking a little while to get back to you. Thank you 
again. God bless,
Wren Langley

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 18, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I have never seen a cable that could only charge and not charge and sync 
> except of course a complete Monoprice Lightning AC adapter which is a 6 foot 
> lightning cable hardwired into an AC wall adapter rather than a Lightning 
> cable with a regular USB plug on one end which can plug into a computer or a 
> separate USB wall adapter. I have had cables from Monoprice, Amazon Basics 
> cables, inexpensive cables I picked up from Best Buy and all worked just 
> fine. As long as you buy a cable which is Apple certified it will work 
> without issues.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Lea W Langley
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 6:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: I phone is now working after update. Here is the complete 
> explanation. Was Re: iPhone seems to have died during update
>  
> First of all I would like to thank all of you for your help and for your 
> suggestions and opinions. The problem with iTunes was this:
> The download kept timing out, so I tunes with state would say problem with 
> update and want me to start the update again. Finally I just decided to 
> continue hitting the update button when I was told there was a problem, and 
> eventually the whole update it downloaded after that the whole process went 
> smoothly. The person at Apple said that sometimes the downloads do stop, and 
> that the software is written to pick up where it leaves off when you restart 
> the download. He said a lot of software is written to take care of things 
> that happen as it is being used. I reconnected the iPhone and it said 
> extracting software. Now there was another problem. There appear that there 
> are some cables that are only for charging purposes, and others that will do 
> the update as well as the charge. The person that I talk to at Apple said 
> that Bilken is the only one besides Apple that will do both the charging and 
> the updating.
> I also was told that a lot of times we are at the mercy of the Internet so 
> the update can die, and then as I did, you have to start all over.
>  
> In his opinion, he feels that it is more stable to use iTunes and update from 
> there an over the air with Wi-Fi.
> Again thank you all for your help and suggestions and thank you for telling 
> me how to put the phone in recovery mode. God bless, Wren Langley PS. I'm 
> sharing all of this information as it might be of some help to someone later. 
> I couldn't get a ride to the Apple store yesterday, so I'm very grateful that 
> my phone is working again. I also would like to give credit to God above, 
> because I prayed a lot and I know that I received help from him. To get my 
> phone working again.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 17, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> This is a 5 s. I tried to help her by putting her phone in recovery mode and 
> it was still giving us problems. She is on the phone with Apple now I guess. 
> She had a bad cable. Thanks to everyone who responded.  I think she got it. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:39 AM -0700, "Sieghard Weitzel"  
> wrote:
> 
> What model iPhone is this?
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 7:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone seems to have died during update
>  
> hi Dave, and the rest of you. Thank you for all of the hints and that helps. 
> The first way I did it was just by Wi-Fi. When it wouldn't come back on after 
> an hour, that is when I tried connecting it to iTunes on the computer hoping 
> that I could fix it that way. God bless, Wren Langley
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On May 17, 2016, at 9:33 AM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> in the future. don’t use iTunes. Just connect your phone to the power 
> charger, and do it over WiFi.
>  
> I have never had any problems.
>  
> Good luck.
>  
> From: wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 3:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone seems to have died during update
>  
> I connected it to iTunes, and it kept telling me that there was a problem 
> with the update and it would say that

RE: I phone is now working after update. Here is the complete explanation. Was Re: iPhone seems to have died during update

2016-05-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I have never seen a cable that could only charge and not charge and sync except 
of course a complete Monoprice Lightning AC adapter which is a 6 foot lightning 
cable hardwired into an AC wall adapter rather than a Lightning cable with a 
regular USB plug on one end which can plug into a computer or a separate USB 
wall adapter. I have had cables from Monoprice, Amazon Basics cables, 
inexpensive cables I picked up from Best Buy and all worked just fine. As long 
as you buy a cable which is Apple certified it will work without issues.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lea W Langley
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 6:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I phone is now working after update. Here is the complete explanation. 
Was Re: iPhone seems to have died during update

First of all I would like to thank all of you for your help and for your 
suggestions and opinions. The problem with iTunes was this:
The download kept timing out, so I tunes with state would say problem with 
update and want me to start the update again. Finally I just decided to 
continue hitting the update button when I was told there was a problem, and 
eventually the whole update it downloaded after that the whole process went 
smoothly. The person at Apple said that sometimes the downloads do stop, and 
that the software is written to pick up where it leaves off when you restart 
the download. He said a lot of software is written to take care of things that 
happen as it is being used. I reconnected the iPhone and it said extracting 
software. Now there was another problem. There appear that there are some 
cables that are only for charging purposes, and others that will do the update 
as well as the charge. The person that I talk to at Apple said that Bilken is 
the only one besides Apple that will do both the charging and the updating.
I also was told that a lot of times we are at the mercy of the Internet so the 
update can die, and then as I did, you have to start all over.

In his opinion, he feels that it is more stable to use iTunes and update from 
there an over the air with Wi-Fi.
Again thank you all for your help and suggestions and thank you for telling me 
how to put the phone in recovery mode. God bless, Wren Langley PS. I'm sharing 
all of this information as it might be of some help to someone later. I 
couldn't get a ride to the Apple store yesterday, so I'm very grateful that my 
phone is working again. I also would like to give credit to God above, because 
I prayed a lot and I know that I received help from him. To get my phone 
working again.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 17, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Jennie Facer 
mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is a 5 s. I tried to help her by putting her phone in recovery mode and it 
was still giving us problems. She is on the phone with Apple now I guess. She 
had a bad cable. Thanks to everyone who responded. I think she got it.


On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:39 AM -0700, "Sieghard Weitzel" 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
What model iPhone is this?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 7:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iPhone seems to have died during update

hi Dave, and the rest of you. Thank you for all of the hints and that helps. 
The first way I did it was just by Wi-Fi. When it wouldn't come back on after 
an hour, that is when I tried connecting it to iTunes on the computer hoping 
that I could fix it that way. God bless, Wren Langley

Sent from my iPad

On May 17, 2016, at 9:33 AM, Dave 
mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com>> wrote:
in the future. don’t use iTunes. Just connect your phone to the power charger, 
and do it over WiFi.

I have never had any problems.

Good luck.

From: wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 3:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iPhone seems to have died during update

I connected it to iTunes, and it kept telling me that there was a problem with 
the update and it would say that iTunes was downloading software for the 
iPhone, but then it would keep telling me to restart the update. If anyone has 
any more suggestions such as how to put it in recovery road mode and restore it 
back to life I would really appreciate it. Thank you. Step-by-step instructions 
needed please. Thank you thank you. Godbless,
Wren Langley

Sent from my iPad

On May 17, 2016, at 7:39 AM, Feliciano Godoy 
mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Is the phone displaying connect to iTunes on the screen? It sounds like your 
iPhone got corrupted during the process. Hopefully you have a iCloud or iTunes 
back u

Re: I phone is now working after update. Here is the complete explanation. Was Re: iPhone seems to have died during update

2016-05-18 Thread Anthony Vece
I've never had any problem with Anker cords.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone SE

> On May 18, 2016, at 9:46 AM, Lea W Langley  wrote:
> 
> First of all I would like to thank all of you for your help and for your 
> suggestions and opinions. The problem with iTunes was this:
> The download kept timing out, so I tunes with state would say problem with 
> update and want me to start the update again. Finally I just decided to 
> continue hitting the update button when I was told there was a problem, and 
> eventually the whole update it downloaded after that the whole process went 
> smoothly. The person at Apple said that sometimes the downloads do stop, and 
> that the software is written to pick up where it leaves off when you restart 
> the download. He said a lot of software is written to take care of things 
> that happen as it is being used. I reconnected the iPhone and it said 
> extracting software. Now there was another problem. There appear that there 
> are some cables that are only for charging purposes, and others that will do 
> the update as well as the charge. The person that I talk to at Apple said 
> that Bilken is the only one besides Apple that will do both the charging and 
> the updating.
> I also was told that a lot of times we are at the mercy of the Internet so 
> the update can die, and then as I did, you have to start all over.
> 
> In his opinion, he feels that it is more stable to use iTunes and update from 
> there an over the air with Wi-Fi.
> Again thank you all for your help and suggestions and thank you for telling 
> me how to put the phone in recovery mode. God bless, Wren Langley PS. I'm 
> sharing all of this information as it might be of some help to someone later. 
> I couldn't get a ride to the Apple store yesterday, so I'm very grateful that 
> my phone is working again. I also would like to give credit to God above, 
> because I prayed a lot and I know that I received help from him. To get my 
> phone working again.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 17, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> 
>> This is a 5 s. I tried to help her by putting her phone in recovery mode and 
>> it was still giving us problems. She is on the phone with Apple now I guess. 
>> She had a bad cable. Thanks to everyone who responded. I think she got it. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:39 AM -0700, "Sieghard Weitzel"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> What model iPhone is this?
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 7:36 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seems to have died during update
>>>  
>>> hi Dave, and the rest of you. Thank you for all of the hints and that 
>>> helps. The first way I did it was just by Wi-Fi. When it wouldn't come back 
>>> on after an hour, that is when I tried connecting it to iTunes on the 
>>> computer hoping that I could fix it that way. God bless, Wren Langley
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On May 17, 2016, at 9:33 AM, Dave  wrote:
>>> 
>>> in the future. don’t use iTunes. Just connect your phone to the power 
>>> charger, and do it over WiFi.
>>>  
>>> I have never had any problems.
>>>  
>>> Good luck.
>>>  
>>> From: wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 3:18 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seems to have died during update
>>>  
>>> I connected it to iTunes, and it kept telling me that there was a problem 
>>> with the update and it would say that iTunes was downloading software for 
>>> the iPhone, but then it would keep telling me to restart the update. If 
>>> anyone has any more suggestions such as how to put it in recovery road mode 
>>> and restore it back to life I would really appreciate it. Thank you. 
>>> Step-by-step instructions needed please. Thank you thank you. Godbless,
>>> Wren Langley
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On May 17, 2016, at 7:39 AM, Feliciano Godoy  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is the phone displaying connect to iTunes on the screen? It sounds like 
>>> your iPhone got corrupted during the process. Hopefully you have a iCloud 
>>> or iTunes back up. Last resort, you will have to get the iPhone in recovery 
>>> mode and use the iTunes player on the computer to bring it back to life.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Feliciano
>>> For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
>>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>>> 
>>> On May 16, 2016, at 8:26 PM, "wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi all,
>>> Thank you for the help
>>> If you get a duplicate duplicate of this I apologize. I looked in my sent 
>>> messages and I did not see this one. The iPhone told me the update would 
>>> begin in so many seconds, and then stopped. It never rebooted after that. I 
>>> connected it to the computer and try to update through iTunes, which I do 
>>> have the latest version of, but iTunes said that there was a problem 
>>> updating t

I phone is now working after update. Here is the complete explanation. Was Re: iPhone seems to have died during update

2016-05-18 Thread Lea W Langley
First of all I would like to thank all of you for your help and for your 
suggestions and opinions. The problem with iTunes was this:
The download kept timing out, so I tunes with state would say problem with 
update and want me to start the update again. Finally I just decided to 
continue hitting the update button when I was told there was a problem, and 
eventually the whole update it downloaded after that the whole process went 
smoothly. The person at Apple said that sometimes the downloads do stop, and 
that the software is written to pick up where it leaves off when you restart 
the download. He said a lot of software is written to take care of things that 
happen as it is being used. I reconnected the iPhone and it said extracting 
software. Now there was another problem. There appear that there are some 
cables that are only for charging purposes, and others that will do the update 
as well as the charge. The person that I talk to at Apple said that Bilken is 
the only one besides Apple that will do both the charging and the updating.
I also was told that a lot of times we are at the mercy of the Internet so the 
update can die, and then as I did, you have to start all over.

In his opinion, he feels that it is more stable to use iTunes and update from 
there an over the air with Wi-Fi.
Again thank you all for your help and suggestions and thank you for telling me 
how to put the phone in recovery mode. God bless, Wren Langley PS. I'm sharing 
all of this information as it might be of some help to someone later. I 
couldn't get a ride to the Apple store yesterday, so I'm very grateful that my 
phone is working again. I also would like to give credit to God above, because 
I prayed a lot and I know that I received help from him. To get my phone 
working again.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 17, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> This is a 5 s. I tried to help her by putting her phone in recovery mode and 
> it was still giving us problems. She is on the phone with Apple now I guess. 
> She had a bad cable. Thanks to everyone who responded. I think she got it. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:39 AM -0700, "Sieghard Weitzel"  
> wrote:
> 
>> What model iPhone is this?
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 7:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone seems to have died during update
>>  
>> hi Dave, and the rest of you. Thank you for all of the hints and that helps. 
>> The first way I did it was just by Wi-Fi. When it wouldn't come back on 
>> after an hour, that is when I tried connecting it to iTunes on the computer 
>> hoping that I could fix it that way. God bless, Wren Langley
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On May 17, 2016, at 9:33 AM, Dave  wrote:
>> 
>> in the future. don’t use iTunes. Just connect your phone to the power 
>> charger, and do it over WiFi.
>>  
>> I have never had any problems.
>>  
>> Good luck.
>>  
>> From: wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 3:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone seems to have died during update
>>  
>> I connected it to iTunes, and it kept telling me that there was a problem 
>> with the update and it would say that iTunes was downloading software for 
>> the iPhone, but then it would keep telling me to restart the update. If 
>> anyone has any more suggestions such as how to put it in recovery road mode 
>> and restore it back to life I would really appreciate it. Thank you. 
>> Step-by-step instructions needed please. Thank you thank you. Godbless,
>> Wren Langley
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On May 17, 2016, at 7:39 AM, Feliciano Godoy  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Is the phone displaying connect to iTunes on the screen? It sounds like your 
>> iPhone got corrupted during the process. Hopefully you have a iCloud or 
>> iTunes back up. Last resort, you will have to get the iPhone in recovery 
>> mode and use the iTunes player on the computer to bring it back to life.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Feliciano
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>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>> 
>> On May 16, 2016, at 8:26 PM, "wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> hi all,
>> Thank you for the help
>> If you get a duplicate duplicate of this I apologize. I looked in my sent 
>> messages and I did not see this one. The iPhone told me the update would 
>> begin in so many seconds, and then stopped. It never rebooted after that. I 
>> connected it to the computer and try to update through iTunes, which I do 
>> have the latest version of, but iTunes said that there was a problem 
>> updating the phone. I tried several times, but each time iTunes kept saying 
>> that it was downloading software for the update but then trying to start the 
>> update process over. If anyone can help I would really appreciate it. The 
>> iPhone is the only phone I have.
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Re: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

2014-11-22 Thread Wren Langley
Hi all, regarding the capture that was mentioned to sign up for the Microsoft 
account there is a place on it where you can get an audio challenge. That is 
how I did it. The numbers are pretty clear, so it will work. It took me a while 
to get it done but I did get the account created without cited help. God bless, 
Wren Langley

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 21, 2014, at 1:51 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> You can, or you can create an account on a computer that will then be used 
> when you sign in to the apps.
> Go to:
> https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?lic=1
>  
> HTH,
> Richard
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 11:12 AM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
> Subject: RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!
>  
> Is the Microsoft Account something that is created from within the app?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 11:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!
>  
> Hi,
> Search for Microsoft in the app store.
> One of the first results will be Word.
> It is free to edit and create and read Word documents.  You do have to create 
> a free Microsoft account and there is a captia that requires sight to 
> complete, but once you have that, you have basic word editing functions 
> without costing anything.
> HTH,
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Regina Alvarado
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 7:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!
>  
> Hi, I would love to have a Word app for iPhone and/or iPad. Can I just buy 
> Word? Do I have to buy a subscription to get the ability to write documents 
> or open Word documents? When I looked in the app store for Word there were a 
> lot of choices, and none of what I looked at did what I wanted. Help with 
> this appreciated.
>  
> 
> reggie and Allegra
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RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

2014-11-21 Thread Rose Combs
Oh, well since May I have been alone, even before that I was alone a lot but my 
former husband passed on in May so there is no one here to help except 
relatives that have absolutely no computer savvy, people who want to know 50 
questions before they will help ad generally screw it up!  I need a solution 
some time.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 12:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

Actually, no, I can't see.  I depend on my wife to look at these things when I 
run into them.
The visuals are also often hard to see.  They obscure the text to make it 
difficult so audimated software can't read them and fill in the answer 
automatically.  So, using a braille display wouldn't help.
Neither I think using something like KNFB Reader or another OCR app.  
My wife sometimes has to get a new challenge until she can read it and she has 
really good vision.
I'm lucky that she is wlling to bail me out at these times.

Sorry to hear about your job.  That is a drag and a half.  You certinaly didn't 
need that news.

I hope you can find a good alternative soon.

Richard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 11:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

I assume you are able to see the screen!  I just had another example of a 
CAPTCHA yesterday that had no audio on the computer, if I want to go someplace 
I generally do so from the computer first time, easier for me but I have 
Firefox, dislike it and have not been able to get Webvism to load into it, but 
then, I have not had a lot of time to mess with it and over the next months 
until mid-March probably won't have time, just found out my job has been 
outsourced and will be working on my options, stay and do only one report type, 
one I am not familiar with in a program I am not familiar with, move to a 
service that pays far less than I feel comfortable with, start on disability or 
retire which my person says is not optimal just now.  

I approached a site that sells to Blind people a few months ago and discovered 
a CAPTCHA and decided they just did not want my business.  

I even tried using a couple of different apps to snap a picture of my screen 
and see if I could read the jumbo, not in time to type it in, maybe had I had a 
braille display hooked up, have a Refresh-A-Braille but it was not hooked up as 
for the most part the controls just don't work after having use a Focus 80 at 
work and a Braille Note, braille is great but navigation controls don't seem to 
be anywhere the right places for my use and I generally have so much going on 
that I don't have the time to play when I want to use it.  Works just fine, but 
not for speed for me.  Was thinking about a Focus 14, but now that this 
outsourcing is in my future hesitate to do it.  I know it would be more 
compatible with how I generally work.  My Brail note is an mPower so it is not 
going to work with the phone no matter what I do.  I won't say much more than 
after HW moved operations to Canada and I have occasionally called and gotten 
messages in a language I don't understand, I don't want another product from 
them, thus I never upgraded my Braille note that works just fine for the most 
part.  

They really should do something about these things some of us will never see.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 12:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

Exactly, which is why I don't bother with the audio any longer.  Especially, 
since most of them the audio quality is awful!
I wish more would use things like "What color is an orange?" or What is five 
plus nine?"  etc.
I talked with a web designer who is big into security and he uses one of those 
kind and says they are just as secure as the hard to see/hear captia that most 
sites use.

Later,
Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

Hi Richard,

Keep in mind that audio catpchas are usually totally different from visual 
captchas. The visual captcha may be 6 or 7 letters or letters and numbers 
whereas an audio captcha might ask you to enter a number of words or letters or 
numbers.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turn

Re: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

2014-11-21 Thread Wayne Merritt
Richard and all,
I did not go through the sign-up process for the Microsoft account
since I was short on time. I am thinking of doing so though since it
is free to edit and create basic Word documents with the Word app.
When I looked over the sign-up screen, the directions for the audio
CAPTCHA said to enter the words in any order. I've certainly dealt
with CAPTCHA's that were very difficult to hear under the best of
circumstances, but this one seemed to be fairly easy for me to hear
and distinguish the words I needed to enter. Too many sites say, "If
you're blind, call our customer service number during business hours,"
so it was good to see the account creation process in the Word app
take a more proactive approach.

Wayne

On 11/21/14, Richard Turner  wrote:
> You can, or you can create an account on a computer that will then be used
> when you sign in to the apps.
>
> Go to:
>
> https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?lic=1
>
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 11:12 AM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
> Subject: RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!
>
>
>
> Is the Microsoft Account something that is created from within the app?
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 11:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Search for Microsoft in the app store.
>
> One of the first results will be Word.
>
> It is free to edit and create and read Word documents.  You do have to
> create a free Microsoft account and there is a captia that requires sight to
> complete, but once you have that, you have basic word editing functions
> without costing anything.
>
> HTH,
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Regina Alvarado
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 7:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!
>
>
>
> Hi, I would love to have a Word app for iPhone and/or iPad. Can I just buy
> Word? Do I have to buy a subscription to get the ability to write documents
> or open Word documents? When I looked in the app store for Word there were a
> lot of choices, and none of what I looked at did what I wanted. Help with
> this appreciated.
>
>
>
> reggie and Allegra
>
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RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

2014-11-21 Thread Richard Turner
You can, or you can create an account on a computer that will then be used when 
you sign in to the apps.

Go to:

https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?lic=1

 

HTH,

Richard

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 11:12 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

 

Is the Microsoft Account something that is created from within the app?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

 

Hi,

Search for Microsoft in the app store.

One of the first results will be Word.

It is free to edit and create and read Word documents.  You do have to create a 
free Microsoft account and there is a captia that requires sight to complete, 
but once you have that, you have basic word editing functions without costing 
anything.

HTH,

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 7:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

 

Hi, I would love to have a Word app for iPhone and/or iPad. Can I just buy 
Word? Do I have to buy a subscription to get the ability to write documents or 
open Word documents? When I looked in the app store for Word there were a lot 
of choices, and none of what I looked at did what I wanted. Help with this 
appreciated.

 

reggie and Allegra

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RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

2014-11-21 Thread Richard Turner
Actually, no, I can't see.  I depend on my wife to look at these things when I 
run into them.
The visuals are also often hard to see.  They obscure the text to make it 
difficult so audimated software can't read them and fill in the answer 
automatically.  So, using a braille display wouldn't help.
Neither I think using something like KNFB Reader or another OCR app.  
My wife sometimes has to get a new challenge until she can read it and she has 
really good vision.
I'm lucky that she is wlling to bail me out at these times.

Sorry to hear about your job.  That is a drag and a half.  You certinaly didn't 
need that news.

I hope you can find a good alternative soon.

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 11:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

I assume you are able to see the screen!  I just had another example of a 
CAPTCHA yesterday that had no audio on the computer, if I want to go someplace 
I generally do so from the computer first time, easier for me but I have 
Firefox, dislike it and have not been able to get Webvism to load into it, but 
then, I have not had a lot of time to mess with it and over the next months 
until mid-March probably won't have time, just found out my job has been 
outsourced and will be working on my options, stay and do only one report type, 
one I am not familiar with in a program I am not familiar with, move to a 
service that pays far less than I feel comfortable with, start on disability or 
retire which my person says is not optimal just now.  

I approached a site that sells to Blind people a few months ago and discovered 
a CAPTCHA and decided they just did not want my business.  

I even tried using a couple of different apps to snap a picture of my screen 
and see if I could read the jumbo, not in time to type it in, maybe had I had a 
braille display hooked up, have a Refresh-A-Braille but it was not hooked up as 
for the most part the controls just don't work after having use a Focus 80 at 
work and a Braille Note, braille is great but navigation controls don't seem to 
be anywhere the right places for my use and I generally have so much going on 
that I don't have the time to play when I want to use it.  Works just fine, but 
not for speed for me.  Was thinking about a Focus 14, but now that this 
outsourcing is in my future hesitate to do it.  I know it would be more 
compatible with how I generally work.  My Brail note is an mPower so it is not 
going to work with the phone no matter what I do.  I won't say much more than 
after HW moved operations to Canada and I have occasionally called and gotten 
messages in a language I don't understand, I don't want another product from 
them, thus I never upgraded my Braille note that works just fine for the most 
part.  

They really should do something about these things some of us will never see.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 12:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

Exactly, which is why I don't bother with the audio any longer.  Especially, 
since most of them the audio quality is awful!
I wish more would use things like "What color is an orange?" or What is five 
plus nine?"  etc.
I talked with a web designer who is big into security and he uses one of those 
kind and says they are just as secure as the hard to see/hear captia that most 
sites use.

Later,
Richard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

Hi Richard,

Keep in mind that audio catpchas are usually totally different from visual 
captchas. The visual captcha may be 6 or 7 letters or letters and numbers 
whereas an audio captcha might ask you to enter a number of words or letters or 
numbers.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

Well done.
How could you tell which was the things to enter?
When I tried it is seemed like an awful lot of words.
When my wife looked at it there were about 6 or 7 letters to enter.
I must have missed something obvious.
Richard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

2014-11-21 Thread Rose Combs
I assume you are able to see the screen!  I just had another example of a 
CAPTCHA yesterday that had no audio on the computer, if I want to go someplace 
I generally do so from the computer first time, easier for me but I have 
Firefox, dislike it and have not been able to get Webvism to load into it, but 
then, I have not had a lot of time to mess with it and over the next months 
until mid-March probably won't have time, just found out my job has been 
outsourced and will be working on my options, stay and do only one report type, 
one I am not familiar with in a program I am not familiar with, move to a 
service that pays far less than I feel comfortable with, start on disability or 
retire which my person says is not optimal just now.  

I approached a site that sells to Blind people a few months ago and discovered 
a CAPTCHA and decided they just did not want my business.  

I even tried using a couple of different apps to snap a picture of my screen 
and see if I could read the jumbo, not in time to type it in, maybe had I had a 
braille display hooked up, have a Refresh-A-Braille but it was not hooked up as 
for the most part the controls just don't work after having use a Focus 80 at 
work and a Braille Note, braille is great but navigation controls don't seem to 
be anywhere the right places for my use and I generally have so much going on 
that I don't have the time to play when I want to use it.  Works just fine, but 
not for speed for me.  Was thinking about a Focus 14, but now that this 
outsourcing is in my future hesitate to do it.  I know it would be more 
compatible with how I generally work.  My Brail note is an mPower so it is not 
going to work with the phone no matter what I do.  I won't say much more than 
after HW moved operations to Canada and I have occasionally called and gotten 
messages in a language I don't understand, I don't want another product from 
them, thus I never upgraded my Braille note that works just fine for the most 
part.  

They really should do something about these things some of us will never see.  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 12:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

Exactly, which is why I don't bother with the audio any longer.  Especially, 
since most of them the audio quality is awful!
I wish more would use things like "What color is an orange?" or What is five 
plus nine?"  etc.
I talked with a web designer who is big into security and he uses one of those 
kind and says they are just as secure as the hard to see/hear captia that most 
sites use.

Later,
Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

Hi Richard,

Keep in mind that audio catpchas are usually totally different from visual 
captchas. The visual captcha may be 6 or 7 letters or letters and numbers 
whereas an audio captcha might ask you to enter a number of words or letters or 
numbers.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

Well done.
How could you tell which was the things to enter?
When I tried it is seemed like an awful lot of words.
When my wife looked at it there were about 6 or 7 letters to enter.
I must have missed something obvious.
Richard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

Actually, I was able to use the audio option when doing the CAPTCHA to know 
what to fill in on my iPhone 6. I was curious to how that would work and it 
looked accessible. If you have a hearing loss and/or have trouble 
distinguishing between syntheic speech voices, then you may have trouble. There 
was a softer syncthetic voice and then a louder one which read off the things 
you needed to enter. This was awesome to see; hopefully other companies will 
offer audio options within their apps when signing up for services.

Best,
Wayne

On 11/21/14, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Search for Microsoft in the app store.
>
> One of the first results will be Word.
>
> It is free to edit and create and read Word documents.  You do have to 
> create a free Microsoft account and there is a captia that requires 
> sight to complete, but once you have that, you have basic word editing 
&g

RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

2014-11-21 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Is the Microsoft Account something that is created from within the app?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

Hi,
Search for Microsoft in the app store.
One of the first results will be Word.
It is free to edit and create and read Word documents.  You do have to create a 
free Microsoft account and there is a captia that requires sight to complete, 
but once you have that, you have basic word editing functions without costing 
anything.
HTH,
Richard


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 7:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

Hi, I would love to have a Word app for iPhone and/or iPad. Can I just buy 
Word? Do I have to buy a subscription to get the ability to write documents or 
open Word documents? When I looked in the app store for Word there were a lot 
of choices, and none of what I looked at did what I wanted. Help with this 
appreciated.

reggie and Allegra
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RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

2014-11-21 Thread Richard Turner
Exactly, which is why I don't bother with the audio any longer.  Especially, 
since most of them the audio quality is awful!
I wish more would use things like "What color is an orange?" or What is five 
plus nine?"  etc.
I talked with a web designer who is big into security and he uses one of those 
kind and says they are just as secure as the hard to see/hear captia that most 
sites use.

Later,
Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

Hi Richard,

Keep in mind that audio catpchas are usually totally different from visual 
captchas. The visual captcha may be 6 or 7 letters or letters and numbers 
whereas an audio captcha might ask you to enter a number of words or letters or 
numbers.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

Well done.
How could you tell which was the things to enter?
When I tried it is seemed like an awful lot of words.
When my wife looked at it there were about 6 or 7 letters to enter.
I must have missed something obvious.
Richard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

Actually, I was able to use the audio option when doing the CAPTCHA to
know what to fill in on my iPhone 6. I was curious to how that would
work and it looked accessible. If you have a hearing loss and/or have
trouble distinguishing between syntheic speech voices, then you may
have trouble. There was a softer syncthetic voice and then a louder
one which read off the things you needed to enter. This was awesome to
see; hopefully other companies will offer audio options within their
apps when signing up for services.

Best,
Wayne

On 11/21/14, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Search for Microsoft in the app store.
>
> One of the first results will be Word.
>
> It is free to edit and create and read Word documents.  You do have to
> create a free Microsoft account and there is a captia that requires sight to
> complete, but once you have that, you have basic word editing functions
> without costing anything.
>
> HTH,
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Regina Alvarado
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 7:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!
>
>
>
> Hi, I would love to have a Word app for iPhone and/or iPad. Can I just buy
> Word? Do I have to buy a subscription to get the ability to write documents
> or open Word documents? When I looked in the app store for Word there were a
> lot of choices, and none of what I looked at did what I wanted. Help with
> this appreciated.
>
>
>
> reggie and Allegra
>
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RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

2014-11-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Richard,

Keep in mind that audio catpchas are usually totally different from visual 
captchas. The visual captcha may be 6 or 7 letters or letters and numbers 
whereas an audio captcha might ask you to enter a number of words or letters or 
numbers.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

Well done.
How could you tell which was the things to enter?
When I tried it is seemed like an awful lot of words.
When my wife looked at it there were about 6 or 7 letters to enter.
I must have missed something obvious.
Richard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

Actually, I was able to use the audio option when doing the CAPTCHA to
know what to fill in on my iPhone 6. I was curious to how that would
work and it looked accessible. If you have a hearing loss and/or have
trouble distinguishing between syntheic speech voices, then you may
have trouble. There was a softer syncthetic voice and then a louder
one which read off the things you needed to enter. This was awesome to
see; hopefully other companies will offer audio options within their
apps when signing up for services.

Best,
Wayne

On 11/21/14, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Search for Microsoft in the app store.
>
> One of the first results will be Word.
>
> It is free to edit and create and read Word documents.  You do have to
> create a free Microsoft account and there is a captia that requires sight to
> complete, but once you have that, you have basic word editing functions
> without costing anything.
>
> HTH,
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Regina Alvarado
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 7:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!
>
>
>
> Hi, I would love to have a Word app for iPhone and/or iPad. Can I just buy
> Word? Do I have to buy a subscription to get the ability to write documents
> or open Word documents? When I looked in the app store for Word there were a
> lot of choices, and none of what I looked at did what I wanted. Help with
> this appreciated.
>
>
>
> reggie and Allegra
>
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RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

2014-11-21 Thread Richard Turner
Well done.
How could you tell which was the things to enter?
When I tried it is seemed like an awful lot of words.
When my wife looked at it there were about 6 or 7 letters to enter.
I must have missed something obvious.
Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

Actually, I was able to use the audio option when doing the CAPTCHA to
know what to fill in on my iPhone 6. I was curious to how that would
work and it looked accessible. If you have a hearing loss and/or have
trouble distinguishing between syntheic speech voices, then you may
have trouble. There was a softer syncthetic voice and then a louder
one which read off the things you needed to enter. This was awesome to
see; hopefully other companies will offer audio options within their
apps when signing up for services.

Best,
Wayne

On 11/21/14, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Search for Microsoft in the app store.
>
> One of the first results will be Word.
>
> It is free to edit and create and read Word documents.  You do have to
> create a free Microsoft account and there is a captia that requires sight to
> complete, but once you have that, you have basic word editing functions
> without costing anything.
>
> HTH,
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Regina Alvarado
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 7:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!
>
>
>
> Hi, I would love to have a Word app for iPhone and/or iPad. Can I just buy
> Word? Do I have to buy a subscription to get the ability to write documents
> or open Word documents? When I looked in the app store for Word there were a
> lot of choices, and none of what I looked at did what I wanted. Help with
> this appreciated.
>
>
>
> reggie and Allegra
>
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Re: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

2014-11-21 Thread Wayne Merritt
Actually, I was able to use the audio option when doing the CAPTCHA to
know what to fill in on my iPhone 6. I was curious to how that would
work and it looked accessible. If you have a hearing loss and/or have
trouble distinguishing between syntheic speech voices, then you may
have trouble. There was a softer syncthetic voice and then a louder
one which read off the things you needed to enter. This was awesome to
see; hopefully other companies will offer audio options within their
apps when signing up for services.

Best,
Wayne

On 11/21/14, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Search for Microsoft in the app store.
>
> One of the first results will be Word.
>
> It is free to edit and create and read Word documents.  You do have to
> create a free Microsoft account and there is a captia that requires sight to
> complete, but once you have that, you have basic word editing functions
> without costing anything.
>
> HTH,
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Regina Alvarado
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 7:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!
>
>
>
> Hi, I would love to have a Word app for iPhone and/or iPad. Can I just buy
> Word? Do I have to buy a subscription to get the ability to write documents
> or open Word documents? When I looked in the app store for Word there were a
> lot of choices, and none of what I looked at did what I wanted. Help with
> this appreciated.
>
>
>
> reggie and Allegra
>
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RE: word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

2014-11-21 Thread Richard Turner
Hi,

Search for Microsoft in the app store.

One of the first results will be Word.

It is free to edit and create and read Word documents.  You do have to create a 
free Microsoft account and there is a captia that requires sight to complete, 
but once you have that, you have basic word editing functions without costing 
anything.

HTH,

Richard

 

 

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Hi, I would love to have a Word app for iPhone and/or iPad. Can I just buy 
Word? Do I have to buy a subscription to get the ability to write documents or 
open Word documents? When I looked in the app store for Word there were a lot 
of choices, and none of what I looked at did what I wanted. Help with this 
appreciated.

 

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word only, subscription, and just explanation, thanks!

2014-11-21 Thread Regina Alvarado
Hi, I would love to have a Word app for iPhone and/or iPad. Can I just buy 
Word? Do I have to buy a subscription to get the ability to write documents or 
open Word documents? When I looked in the app store for Word there were a lot 
of choices, and none of what I looked at did what I wanted. Help with this 
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an explanation of the AT&T next plan - Fwd: the 16 or the 64G?

2014-09-28 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
I am forwarding this message which was posted on this very same list under a 
different topic. This is for those people who may not of seen it but who might 
have questions about how the AT&T next plan works..


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Vicky Collins 
> Date: September 28, 2014 at 4:00:10 PM CDT
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: the 16 or the 64G?
> Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> 
> Since I didn't see a copyright notice at the bottom of the page, here is the 
> AT&T next FAQ information from their website; and, best I can tell, one does 
> pay more with the Next plan than with a two-year contract, but then one has 
> more freedom with the Next plan or with buying the phone outright.
> Taken from:
> 
> www.att.com/shop/wireless/next.html
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Expand All
> What is AT&T Next? AT&T Next offers you the opportunity to get a new 
> smartphone every year or every 18 months.  You have the choice to pay for 
> your smartphone over 20 or 24 monthly installments.  After 12 monthly 
> installment payments (under 20-month plan) or 18 monthly installment payments 
> (under 24-month plan), you may trade your smartphone in to upgrade to a new 
> smartphone, or choose to keep it and make the remaining monthly installment 
> payments.  With AT&T Next, tax is due at the time of sale, but there are no 
> down payment, activation, upgrade, or financing fees required.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Who is eligible for AT&T Next? AT&T Next is available for current customers 
> who are eligible for an upgrade and whose accounts are in good standing, or 
> for new customers with qualifying credit.
> 
> With respect to business customers and their Corporate Responsibility Users, 
> a qualified small business agreement (for example, an AT&T Mobile Business 
> Agreement) is also required.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> Are there additional charges? Sales tax is charged on your new smartphone at 
> the time of sale.  There's no down payment and no activation or upgrade fee.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Is a contract required with AT&T Next? AT&T Next requires that you sign an 
> installment agreement to pay for the smartphone over 20 or 24 monthly 
> payments.  If you cancel your wireless service, the remaining unpaid balance 
> on the smartphone is due.  Also, a Wireless Customer Agreement for your 
> wireless service or qualified small business agreement (voice and data) is 
> required.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> How many installment plans can I have on my account? There's a limit of four 
> per Consumer and Individual Responsibility account, and 10 per small business 
> account.  This includes AT&T Next installment agreements and tablet 
> installment agreements.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> What devices are eligible for AT&T Next? You can choose from a huge selection 
> of the latest and most popular smartphones!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Do I own the smartphone? Or is this a leasing offer? The smartphone is yours, 
> and you're responsible for 20 or 24 monthly installment payments.  You're 
> also responsible for any loss, theft, or damage to the smartphone - both 
> during the installment agreement period and afterward.  We recommend you 
> purchase the optional Mobile Insurance to protect your investment.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> How do I get a new smartphone every year with the program? After you have 
> made 12 installment payments under a 20-month plan, or 18 installment 
> payments under a 24-month plan, if your wireless account is in good standing, 
> you can trade in your current smartphone to upgrade to a new one.  All 
> trade-ins must be fully functional, in good physical condition, and have the 
> activation lock disabled.  Select a new smartphone under a qualifying offer, 
> which may include a new AT&T Next installment agreement.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> How do I get a new tablet with the program? If you purchased a tablet with an 
> AT&T Next installment plan (prior to Nov.  20, 2013), you can trade in the 
> tablet for a new tablet after you have made 12 installment payments, but 
> before you have made 20 installment payments, if your wireless account is in 
> good standing.  The tablet must be fully functional and in good physical 
> condition.  Your new tablet can be purchased with a new installment plan or 
> any other currently available offers.  Tablets purchased on or after Nov.  
> 20, 2013, are not eligible for AT&T Next trade-ins.
> 
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> 
> When I trade in my smartphone after 12 or 18 months and get a new one, what's 
> the length of my new installment plan? When you trade in your smartphone, no 
> further installments are billed for the smartphone you traded in.  You can 
> start over with a new AT&T Next installment plan on a new smartphone.  
> Currently available installment plans are 20 and 24 months long.
> 
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> 
> 
> Will I be able to pay off this smartphone early? Yes, you have the option to 
> pay off your installment agreement, but the full outstanding balance will be 
> due immediately.
> 
> 

Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices

2013-09-22 Thread Christopher Chaltain
It should be downloaded automatically. If not, you can go into Settings 
-> General -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver On -> Languages and Dialects 
and make sure enhanced is enabled and the voice will start downloading 
if it hasn't already been downloaded.


On 09/21/2013 09:38 PM, cnmyh...@gmail.com wrote:

How and where can you do that?

Celeste N. MyHand
☺😘If it is to be, it is up to me.


On 20 Sep 2013, at 6:31 pm, Adi Kushnir  wrote:

Yes guies, The commpact voices of Vocalizer Expressive are very bad.
I recommend you to download the HQ voices.
In iOS 6, it downloaded the HQ voice after the phone was plugged in
and connected to wi-fi for the first time, same true for 7.

2013/9/21, Christopher Chaltain :

When I upgraded to IOS 7, it did default to the HQ voice for me. I
wasn't paying too close attention, and it might have been using the
compact voice until the HQ voice had a chance to download. I was using
the HQ voice before too long though, and when I went into the Languages
and Dialects settings, enhanced was already on and the use compact voice
option was off in my VO settings.


On 09/20/2013 04:50 PM, Troy Sullivan wrote:
Anyone know why apple did not have the hq voice already defaulted like
in previous versions?
- Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7
TTS voices



I don't like any of the compact voices, they sound like they are
trapped in a box. Higher quality voices take up more space of course,
but it's worth it, hands down.
Original message:

Thank you for sharing. I absolutely cannot stand the compact British
English voice. Sounds like Daniel with well I don't know, cinucitis
maybe! Lol! But the one compact voice I do like is Irish English. Not
really tried the Australian and U.S. English voices yet in compact
mode.



On 20/09/2013 00:22, Adi Kushnir wrote:
Hi all,



As one who uses the new Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices to
develop with
them for other platforms, I wanna to explain to you all, what are
the iOS 7
voices and which of them are being used when.



So, let's start from sirie:



The new and better Sirie voices are not Vocalizer Expressive voices.



These are custom voices that Nuance or some other company makes a
specially
for Apple, I think it's Nuance because Apple always works with them
on TTS
related stuff.





Now, let's move on to VoiceOver:



In iOS 6, Apple used the Nuance Vocalizer for automotive version 5.5
platform for it's screen reader and Sirie.



Since Nuance stopped supporting and developing Vocalizer for
Automotive, and
released Vocalizer Expressive, in iOS 7, Apple has swiched to using
these
voices for VoiceOver.



Most of them sound the same as the previous generation of Vocalizer,
such as
Samantha Premium for example, they just read longer texts better.



The Vocalizer Expressive platform contains some new and very
expressive
voices, but Apple decided to use the ones that wer already available,
because they are still offerd with Vocalizer Expressive, or VE for
short.



Some other facts that thanks to them you can know it's the new
Expressive
version, are the bad compact voices, a specially Daniel, and the new
voices
for some languages such as Arabic, they have replaced Maged with
Tarik for
this language because Nuance doesn't offer Maged any more.



Vocalizer Expressive has a Hebrew voice as well, so I hope Apple
will add it
soon too:) (Smile).





Hope now you understand it better..





Adi.




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Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices

2013-09-21 Thread cnmyhand
How and where can you do that?

Celeste N. MyHand
☺😘If it is to be, it is up to me. 

> On 20 Sep 2013, at 6:31 pm, Adi Kushnir  wrote:
> 
> Yes guies, The commpact voices of Vocalizer Expressive are very bad.
> I recommend you to download the HQ voices.
> In iOS 6, it downloaded the HQ voice after the phone was plugged in
> and connected to wi-fi for the first time, same true for 7.
> 
> 2013/9/21, Christopher Chaltain :
>> When I upgraded to IOS 7, it did default to the HQ voice for me. I
>> wasn't paying too close attention, and it might have been using the
>> compact voice until the HQ voice had a chance to download. I was using
>> the HQ voice before too long though, and when I went into the Languages
>> and Dialects settings, enhanced was already on and the use compact voice
>> option was off in my VO settings.
>> 
>>> On 09/20/2013 04:50 PM, Troy Sullivan wrote:
>>> Anyone know why apple did not have the hq voice already defaulted like
>>> in previous versions?
>>> - Original Message ----- From: "Mike Arrigo" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:53 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7
>>> TTS voices
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I don't like any of the compact voices, they sound like they are
>>>> trapped in a box. Higher quality voices take up more space of course,
>>>> but it's worth it, hands down.
>>>> Original message:
>>>>> Thank you for sharing. I absolutely cannot stand the compact British
>>>>> English voice. Sounds like Daniel with well I don't know, cinucitis
>>>>> maybe! Lol! But the one compact voice I do like is Irish English. Not
>>>>> really tried the Australian and U.S. English voices yet in compact
>>>>> mode.
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 20/09/2013 00:22, Adi Kushnir wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>>>> As one who uses the new Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices to
>>>>>> develop with
>>>>>> them for other platforms, I wanna to explain to you all, what are
>>>>>> the iOS 7
>>>>>> voices and which of them are being used when.
>>>> 
>>>>>> So, let's start from sirie:
>>>> 
>>>>>> The new and better Sirie voices are not Vocalizer Expressive voices.
>>>> 
>>>>>> These are custom voices that Nuance or some other company makes a
>>>>>> specially
>>>>>> for Apple, I think it's Nuance because Apple always works with them
>>>>>> on TTS
>>>>>> related stuff.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> Now, let's move on to VoiceOver:
>>>> 
>>>>>> In iOS 6, Apple used the Nuance Vocalizer for automotive version 5.5
>>>>>> platform for it's screen reader and Sirie.
>>>> 
>>>>>> Since Nuance stopped supporting and developing Vocalizer for
>>>>>> Automotive, and
>>>>>> released Vocalizer Expressive, in iOS 7, Apple has swiched to using
>>>>>> these
>>>>>> voices for VoiceOver.
>>>> 
>>>>>> Most of them sound the same as the previous generation of Vocalizer,
>>>>>> such as
>>>>>> Samantha Premium for example, they just read longer texts better.
>>>> 
>>>>>> The Vocalizer Expressive platform contains some new and very
>>>>>> expressive
>>>>>> voices, but Apple decided to use the ones that wer already available,
>>>>>> because they are still offerd with Vocalizer Expressive, or VE for
>>>>>> short.
>>>> 
>>>>>> Some other facts that thanks to them you can know it's the new
>>>>>> Expressive
>>>>>> version, are the bad compact voices, a specially Daniel, and the new
>>>>>> voices
>>>>>> for some languages such as Arabic, they have replaced Maged with
>>>>>> Tarik for
>>>>>> this language because Nuance doesn't offer Maged any more.
>>>> 
>>>>>> Vocalizer Expressive has a Hebrew voice as well, so I hope Apple
>>>>>> will add it
>>>>>> soon too:) (Smile).
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> Hope now you understand it better..
>&

Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices

2013-09-21 Thread Adi Kushnir
Yes guies, The commpact voices of Vocalizer Expressive are very bad.
I recommend you to download the HQ voices.
In iOS 6, it downloaded the HQ voice after the phone was plugged in
and connected to wi-fi for the first time, same true for 7.

2013/9/21, Christopher Chaltain :
> When I upgraded to IOS 7, it did default to the HQ voice for me. I
> wasn't paying too close attention, and it might have been using the
> compact voice until the HQ voice had a chance to download. I was using
> the HQ voice before too long though, and when I went into the Languages
> and Dialects settings, enhanced was already on and the use compact voice
> option was off in my VO settings.
>
> On 09/20/2013 04:50 PM, Troy Sullivan wrote:
>> Anyone know why apple did not have the hq voice already defaulted like
>> in previous versions?
>> - Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7
>> TTS voices
>>
>>
>>> I don't like any of the compact voices, they sound like they are
>>> trapped in a box. Higher quality voices take up more space of course,
>>> but it's worth it, hands down.
>>> Original message:
>>>> Thank you for sharing. I absolutely cannot stand the compact British
>>>> English voice. Sounds like Daniel with well I don't know, cinucitis
>>>> maybe! Lol! But the one compact voice I do like is Irish English. Not
>>>> really tried the Australian and U.S. English voices yet in compact
>>>> mode.
>>>
>>>> On 20/09/2013 00:22, Adi Kushnir wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>>> As one who uses the new Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices to
>>>>> develop with
>>>>> them for other platforms, I wanna to explain to you all, what are
>>>>> the iOS 7
>>>>> voices and which of them are being used when.
>>>
>>>>> So, let's start from sirie:
>>>
>>>>> The new and better Sirie voices are not Vocalizer Expressive voices.
>>>
>>>>> These are custom voices that Nuance or some other company makes a
>>>>> specially
>>>>> for Apple, I think it's Nuance because Apple always works with them
>>>>> on TTS
>>>>> related stuff.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Now, let's move on to VoiceOver:
>>>
>>>>> In iOS 6, Apple used the Nuance Vocalizer for automotive version 5.5
>>>>> platform for it's screen reader and Sirie.
>>>
>>>>> Since Nuance stopped supporting and developing Vocalizer for
>>>>> Automotive, and
>>>>> released Vocalizer Expressive, in iOS 7, Apple has swiched to using
>>>>> these
>>>>> voices for VoiceOver.
>>>
>>>>> Most of them sound the same as the previous generation of Vocalizer,
>>>>> such as
>>>>> Samantha Premium for example, they just read longer texts better.
>>>
>>>>> The Vocalizer Expressive platform contains some new and very
>>>>> expressive
>>>>> voices, but Apple decided to use the ones that wer already available,
>>>>> because they are still offerd with Vocalizer Expressive, or VE for
>>>>> short.
>>>
>>>>> Some other facts that thanks to them you can know it's the new
>>>>> Expressive
>>>>> version, are the bad compact voices, a specially Daniel, and the new
>>>>> voices
>>>>> for some languages such as Arabic, they have replaced Maged with
>>>>> Tarik for
>>>>> this language because Nuance doesn't offer Maged any more.
>>>
>>>>> Vocalizer Expressive has a Hebrew voice as well, so I hope Apple
>>>>> will add it
>>>>> soon too:) (Smile).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Hope now you understand it better..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Adi.
>>>
>>>
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Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices

2013-09-21 Thread Kamal Haffar

Hi Adi:

The new Arabic voice Tarik which replaced Majed is terrible, :-)
Also, I tested the enhanced Australian voice but quickly went back to 
the compact voice as the enhanced did not sound as good. to me.


Cheers,



On 20/09/2013 00:22, Adi Kushnir wrote:

Hi all,

As one who uses the new Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices to develop
with them for other platforms, I wanna to explain to you all, what are
the iOS 7 voices and which of them are being used when.

So, let's start from sirie:

The new and better Sirie voices are not Vocalizer Expressive voices.

These are custom voices that Nuance or some other company makes a
specially for Apple, I think it's Nuance because Apple always works
with them on TTS related stuff.



Now, let's move on to VoiceOver:

In iOS 6, Apple used the Nuance Vocalizer for automotive version 5.5
platform for it's screen reader and Sirie.

Since Nuance stopped supporting and developing Vocalizer for
Automotive, and released Vocalizer Expressive, in iOS 7, Apple has
swiched to using these voices for VoiceOver.

Most of them sound the same as the previous generation of Vocalizer,
such as Samantha Premium for example, they just read longer texts better.

The Vocalizer Expressive platform contains some new and very
expressive voices, but Apple decided to use the ones that wer already
available, because they are still offerd with Vocalizer Expressive, or VE

for short.

Some other facts that thanks to them you can know it's the new
Expressive version, are the bad compact voices, a specially Daniel,
and the new voices for some languages such as Arabic, they have
replaced Maged with Tarik for this language because Nuance doesn't offer

Maged any more.

Vocalizer Expressive has a Hebrew voice as well, so I hope Apple will
add it soon too:) (Smile).



Hope now you understand it better..



Adi.


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RE: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices

2013-09-21 Thread Mike Cassidy
Hi Chris,

I agree about Compact Daniel; he sounds rather like the high-quality Nokia
voice I had on the E7. The Australian and US voices aren't too bad, and I'm
sure their HQ voices would sound fine.

Cheers,

Mike

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chris H
Sent: 20 September 2013 19:25
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS
voices

Thank you for sharing. I absolutely cannot stand the compact British English
voice. Sounds like Daniel with well I don't know, cinucitis maybe! Lol! But
the one compact voice I do like is Irish English. Not really tried the
Australian and U.S. English voices yet in compact mode.

On 20/09/2013 00:22, Adi Kushnir wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> As one who uses the new Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices to develop 
> with them for other platforms, I wanna to explain to you all, what are 
> the iOS 7 voices and which of them are being used when.
>
> So, let's start from sirie:
>
> The new and better Sirie voices are not Vocalizer Expressive voices.
>
> These are custom voices that Nuance or some other company makes a 
> specially for Apple, I think it's Nuance because Apple always works 
> with them on TTS related stuff.
>
>
>
> Now, let's move on to VoiceOver:
>
> In iOS 6, Apple used the Nuance Vocalizer for automotive version 5.5 
> platform for it's screen reader and Sirie.
>
> Since Nuance stopped supporting and developing Vocalizer for 
> Automotive, and released Vocalizer Expressive, in iOS 7, Apple has 
> swiched to using these voices for VoiceOver.
>
> Most of them sound the same as the previous generation of Vocalizer, 
> such as Samantha Premium for example, they just read longer texts better.
>
> The Vocalizer Expressive platform contains some new and very 
> expressive voices, but Apple decided to use the ones that wer already 
> available, because they are still offerd with Vocalizer Expressive, or VE
for short.
>
> Some other facts that thanks to them you can know it's the new 
> Expressive version, are the bad compact voices, a specially Daniel, 
> and the new voices for some languages such as Arabic, they have 
> replaced Maged with Tarik for this language because Nuance doesn't offer
Maged any more.
>
> Vocalizer Expressive has a Hebrew voice as well, so I hope Apple will 
> add it soon too:) (Smile).
>
>
>
> Hope now you understand it better..
>
>
>
> Adi.
>

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Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices

2013-09-20 Thread SoonerAnnie
Same here.

- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS 
voices


When I upgraded to IOS 7, it did default to the HQ voice for me. I
wasn't paying too close attention, and it might have been using the
compact voice until the HQ voice had a chance to download. I was using
the HQ voice before too long though, and when I went into the Languages
and Dialects settings, enhanced was already on and the use compact voice
option was off in my VO settings.

On 09/20/2013 04:50 PM, Troy Sullivan wrote:
> Anyone know why apple did not have the hq voice already defaulted like
> in previous versions?
> - Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:53 PM
> Subject: Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7
> TTS voices
>
>
>> I don't like any of the compact voices, they sound like they are
>> trapped in a box. Higher quality voices take up more space of course,
>> but it's worth it, hands down.
>> Original message:
>>> Thank you for sharing. I absolutely cannot stand the compact British
>>> English voice. Sounds like Daniel with well I don't know, cinucitis
>>> maybe! Lol! But the one compact voice I do like is Irish English. Not
>>> really tried the Australian and U.S. English voices yet in compact mode.
>>
>>> On 20/09/2013 00:22, Adi Kushnir wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>
>>>> As one who uses the new Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices to
>>>> develop with
>>>> them for other platforms, I wanna to explain to you all, what are
>>>> the iOS 7
>>>> voices and which of them are being used when.
>>
>>>> So, let's start from sirie:
>>
>>>> The new and better Sirie voices are not Vocalizer Expressive voices.
>>
>>>> These are custom voices that Nuance or some other company makes a
>>>> specially
>>>> for Apple, I think it's Nuance because Apple always works with them
>>>> on TTS
>>>> related stuff.
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Now, let's move on to VoiceOver:
>>
>>>> In iOS 6, Apple used the Nuance Vocalizer for automotive version 5.5
>>>> platform for it's screen reader and Sirie.
>>
>>>> Since Nuance stopped supporting and developing Vocalizer for
>>>> Automotive, and
>>>> released Vocalizer Expressive, in iOS 7, Apple has swiched to using
>>>> these
>>>> voices for VoiceOver.
>>
>>>> Most of them sound the same as the previous generation of Vocalizer,
>>>> such as
>>>> Samantha Premium for example, they just read longer texts better.
>>
>>>> The Vocalizer Expressive platform contains some new and very expressive
>>>> voices, but Apple decided to use the ones that wer already available,
>>>> because they are still offerd with Vocalizer Expressive, or VE for
>>>> short.
>>
>>>> Some other facts that thanks to them you can know it's the new
>>>> Expressive
>>>> version, are the bad compact voices, a specially Daniel, and the new
>>>> voices
>>>> for some languages such as Arabic, they have replaced Maged with
>>>> Tarik for
>>>> this language because Nuance doesn't offer Maged any more.
>>
>>>> Vocalizer Expressive has a Hebrew voice as well, so I hope Apple
>>>> will add it
>>>> soon too:) (Smile).
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Hope now you understand it better..
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Adi.
>>
>>
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Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices

2013-09-20 Thread Christopher Chaltain
When I upgraded to IOS 7, it did default to the HQ voice for me. I 
wasn't paying too close attention, and it might have been using the 
compact voice until the HQ voice had a chance to download. I was using 
the HQ voice before too long though, and when I went into the Languages 
and Dialects settings, enhanced was already on and the use compact voice 
option was off in my VO settings.


On 09/20/2013 04:50 PM, Troy Sullivan wrote:

Anyone know why apple did not have the hq voice already defaulted like
in previous versions?
- Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7
TTS voices



I don't like any of the compact voices, they sound like they are
trapped in a box. Higher quality voices take up more space of course,
but it's worth it, hands down.
Original message:

Thank you for sharing. I absolutely cannot stand the compact British
English voice. Sounds like Daniel with well I don't know, cinucitis
maybe! Lol! But the one compact voice I do like is Irish English. Not
really tried the Australian and U.S. English voices yet in compact mode.



On 20/09/2013 00:22, Adi Kushnir wrote:

Hi all,



As one who uses the new Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices to
develop with
them for other platforms, I wanna to explain to you all, what are
the iOS 7
voices and which of them are being used when.



So, let's start from sirie:



The new and better Sirie voices are not Vocalizer Expressive voices.



These are custom voices that Nuance or some other company makes a
specially
for Apple, I think it's Nuance because Apple always works with them
on TTS
related stuff.





Now, let's move on to VoiceOver:



In iOS 6, Apple used the Nuance Vocalizer for automotive version 5.5
platform for it's screen reader and Sirie.



Since Nuance stopped supporting and developing Vocalizer for
Automotive, and
released Vocalizer Expressive, in iOS 7, Apple has swiched to using
these
voices for VoiceOver.



Most of them sound the same as the previous generation of Vocalizer,
such as
Samantha Premium for example, they just read longer texts better.



The Vocalizer Expressive platform contains some new and very expressive
voices, but Apple decided to use the ones that wer already available,
because they are still offerd with Vocalizer Expressive, or VE for
short.



Some other facts that thanks to them you can know it's the new
Expressive
version, are the bad compact voices, a specially Daniel, and the new
voices
for some languages such as Arabic, they have replaced Maged with
Tarik for
this language because Nuance doesn't offer Maged any more.



Vocalizer Expressive has a Hebrew voice as well, so I hope Apple
will add it
soon too:) (Smile).





Hope now you understand it better..





Adi.




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Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices

2013-09-20 Thread Troy Sullivan
Anyone know why apple did not have the hq voice already defaulted like in 
previous versions?
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Arrigo" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS 
voices



I don't like any of the compact voices, they sound like they are trapped in 
a box. Higher quality voices take up more space of course, but it's worth 
it, hands down.

Original message:

Thank you for sharing. I absolutely cannot stand the compact British
English voice. Sounds like Daniel with well I don't know, cinucitis
maybe! Lol! But the one compact voice I do like is Irish English. Not
really tried the Australian and U.S. English voices yet in compact mode.



On 20/09/2013 00:22, Adi Kushnir wrote:

Hi all,


As one who uses the new Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices to develop 
with
them for other platforms, I wanna to explain to you all, what are the 
iOS 7

voices and which of them are being used when.



So, let's start from sirie:



The new and better Sirie voices are not Vocalizer Expressive voices.


These are custom voices that Nuance or some other company makes a 
specially
for Apple, I think it's Nuance because Apple always works with them on 
TTS

related stuff.





Now, let's move on to VoiceOver:



In iOS 6, Apple used the Nuance Vocalizer for automotive version 5.5
platform for it's screen reader and Sirie.


Since Nuance stopped supporting and developing Vocalizer for Automotive, 
and
released Vocalizer Expressive, in iOS 7, Apple has swiched to using 
these

voices for VoiceOver.


Most of them sound the same as the previous generation of Vocalizer, 
such as

Samantha Premium for example, they just read longer texts better.



The Vocalizer Expressive platform contains some new and very expressive
voices, but Apple decided to use the ones that wer already available,
because they are still offerd with Vocalizer Expressive, or VE for 
short.


Some other facts that thanks to them you can know it's the new 
Expressive
version, are the bad compact voices, a specially Daniel, and the new 
voices
for some languages such as Arabic, they have replaced Maged with Tarik 
for

this language because Nuance doesn't offer Maged any more.


Vocalizer Expressive has a Hebrew voice as well, so I hope Apple will 
add it

soon too:) (Smile).





Hope now you understand it better..





Adi.




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Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices

2013-09-20 Thread Mike Arrigo
I don't like any of the compact voices, they sound like they are 
trapped in a box. Higher quality voices take up more space of course, 
but it's worth it, hands down.

Original message:

Thank you for sharing. I absolutely cannot stand the compact British
English voice. Sounds like Daniel with well I don't know, cinucitis
maybe! Lol! But the one compact voice I do like is Irish English. Not
really tried the Australian and U.S. English voices yet in compact mode.



On 20/09/2013 00:22, Adi Kushnir wrote:

Hi all,



As one who uses the new Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices to develop with
them for other platforms, I wanna to explain to you all, what are the iOS 7
voices and which of them are being used when.



So, let's start from sirie:



The new and better Sirie voices are not Vocalizer Expressive voices.



These are custom voices that Nuance or some other company makes a specially
for Apple, I think it's Nuance because Apple always works with them on TTS
related stuff.





Now, let's move on to VoiceOver:



In iOS 6, Apple used the Nuance Vocalizer for automotive version 5.5
platform for it's screen reader and Sirie.



Since Nuance stopped supporting and developing Vocalizer for Automotive, and
released Vocalizer Expressive, in iOS 7, Apple has swiched to using these
voices for VoiceOver.



Most of them sound the same as the previous generation of Vocalizer, such as
Samantha Premium for example, they just read longer texts better.



The Vocalizer Expressive platform contains some new and very expressive
voices, but Apple decided to use the ones that wer already available,
because they are still offerd with Vocalizer Expressive, or VE for short.



Some other facts that thanks to them you can know it's the new Expressive
version, are the bad compact voices, a specially Daniel, and the new voices
for some languages such as Arabic, they have replaced Maged with Tarik for
this language because Nuance doesn't offer Maged any more.



Vocalizer Expressive has a Hebrew voice as well, so I hope Apple will add it
soon too:) (Smile).





Hope now you understand it better..





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Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices

2013-09-20 Thread Richard Turner
Thank you,
That explains why I can listen at a much faster rate now.
HTH,


Richard
(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)

> On Sep 19, 2013, at 4:22 PM, "Adi Kushnir"  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> As one who uses the new Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices to develop with 
> them for other platforms, I wanna to explain to you all, what are the iOS 7 
> voices and which of them are being used when.
> So, let's start from sirie:
> The new and better Sirie voices are not Vocalizer Expressive voices.
> These are custom voices that Nuance or some other company makes a specially 
> for Apple, I think it's Nuance because Apple always works with them on TTS 
> related stuff.
>  
> Now, let's move on to VoiceOver:
> In iOS 6, Apple used the Nuance Vocalizer for automotive version 5.5 platform 
> for it's screen reader and Sirie.
> Since Nuance stopped supporting and developing Vocalizer for Automotive, and 
> released Vocalizer Expressive, in iOS 7, Apple has swiched to using these 
> voices for VoiceOver.
> Most of them sound the same as the previous generation of Vocalizer, such as 
> Samantha Premium for example, they just read longer texts better.
> The Vocalizer Expressive platform contains some new and very expressive 
> voices, but Apple decided to use the ones that wer already available, because 
> they are still offerd with Vocalizer Expressive, or VE for short.
> Some other facts that thanks to them you can know it's the new Expressive 
> version, are the bad compact voices, a specially Daniel, and the new voices 
> for some languages such as Arabic, they have replaced Maged with Tarik for 
> this language because Nuance doesn't offer Maged any more.
> Vocalizer Expressive has a Hebrew voice as well, so I hope Apple will add it 
> soon too:) (Smile).
>  
> Hope now you understand it better..
>  
> Adi.
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Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices

2013-09-20 Thread Chris H
Thank you for sharing. I absolutely cannot stand the compact British 
English voice. Sounds like Daniel with well I don't know, cinucitis 
maybe! Lol! But the one compact voice I do like is Irish English. Not 
really tried the Australian and U.S. English voices yet in compact mode.


On 20/09/2013 00:22, Adi Kushnir wrote:

Hi all,

As one who uses the new Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices to develop with
them for other platforms, I wanna to explain to you all, what are the iOS 7
voices and which of them are being used when.

So, let's start from sirie:

The new and better Sirie voices are not Vocalizer Expressive voices.

These are custom voices that Nuance or some other company makes a specially
for Apple, I think it's Nuance because Apple always works with them on TTS
related stuff.



Now, let's move on to VoiceOver:

In iOS 6, Apple used the Nuance Vocalizer for automotive version 5.5
platform for it's screen reader and Sirie.

Since Nuance stopped supporting and developing Vocalizer for Automotive, and
released Vocalizer Expressive, in iOS 7, Apple has swiched to using these
voices for VoiceOver.

Most of them sound the same as the previous generation of Vocalizer, such as
Samantha Premium for example, they just read longer texts better.

The Vocalizer Expressive platform contains some new and very expressive
voices, but Apple decided to use the ones that wer already available,
because they are still offerd with Vocalizer Expressive, or VE for short.

Some other facts that thanks to them you can know it's the new Expressive
version, are the bad compact voices, a specially Daniel, and the new voices
for some languages such as Arabic, they have replaced Maged with Tarik for
this language because Nuance doesn't offer Maged any more.

Vocalizer Expressive has a Hebrew voice as well, so I hope Apple will add it
soon too:) (Smile).



Hope now you understand it better..



Adi.



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Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices

2013-09-20 Thread Adi Kushnir
Hi all,

As one who uses the new Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices to develop with
them for other platforms, I wanna to explain to you all, what are the iOS 7
voices and which of them are being used when.

So, let's start from sirie:

The new and better Sirie voices are not Vocalizer Expressive voices.

These are custom voices that Nuance or some other company makes a specially
for Apple, I think it's Nuance because Apple always works with them on TTS
related stuff.

 

Now, let's move on to VoiceOver:

In iOS 6, Apple used the Nuance Vocalizer for automotive version 5.5
platform for it's screen reader and Sirie.

Since Nuance stopped supporting and developing Vocalizer for Automotive, and
released Vocalizer Expressive, in iOS 7, Apple has swiched to using these
voices for VoiceOver.

Most of them sound the same as the previous generation of Vocalizer, such as
Samantha Premium for example, they just read longer texts better.

The Vocalizer Expressive platform contains some new and very expressive
voices, but Apple decided to use the ones that wer already available,
because they are still offerd with Vocalizer Expressive, or VE for short.

Some other facts that thanks to them you can know it's the new Expressive
version, are the bad compact voices, a specially Daniel, and the new voices
for some languages such as Arabic, they have replaced Maged with Tarik for
this language because Nuance doesn't offer Maged any more.

Vocalizer Expressive has a Hebrew voice as well, so I hope Apple will add it
soon too:) (Smile).

 

Hope now you understand it better..

 

Adi.

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Re: Explanation Of Camera Dark In,Text Grabber

2013-03-20 Thread David Chittenden
I stand corrected. Originally, the camera dock for the iPad was going to become 
a bridge device that would allow a digital camera attachment. I did not track 
such developments, and later iPads received a built-in camera. I also have Text 
Grabber, and assumed the camera dock portion of the button was for taking an 
image with the older iPad camera dock bridge that I understood was originally 
going to be developed.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Sent from my iPhone

On 21/03/2013, at 7:14, Esther  wrote:

> Hi David and Eileen,
> 
> I'm puzzled by David's reply that the "Camera Dark" button in the
> TextGrabber app would support an external iPad camera for the original
> iPad.  First of all, all the ways that I know of getting photos to the
> original iPad involve transferring images to the camera roll.  If you
> use the Camera Connection kit that plugs in where the 30-pin charging
> or sync cable attaches, just below the Home button, you can either
> insert an SD card with camera images, if you are using the camera kit
> attachment that has a slotted opening to insert an SD card, or you can
> use the USB camera kit attachment that lets you plug in an unpowered
> USB device, like a card reader, into the USB plug at the other end.
> (At least, I used to be able to do this.) in either case, you can only
> transfer images, and only to the camera roll.  You can't plug in an
> external camera device and control it through the camera kit plug.
> I've also read that  are also apps that let you link to your iPhone
> through WiFi to display the camera contents on the screen of an iPad
> or iPod Touch, and then transfer the picture to the iPad or iPod Touch
> camera roll when the picture is taken. None of these apps are
> interactive, and you have to take the picture using the controls on
> the iPhone.  You also only directly use the iPhone's camera app, and
> can't access any other apps that use the camera.
> 
> In answer to Eileen's question about what the "camera dark" button
> option is on the TextGrabber screen, I think it is just the label for
> the image icon of a camera that sits in the middle of the "photo bttn"
> button on the main TextGrabber screen.  If you slowly move your finger
> vertically up from the home button at the bottom of the iPhone screen,
> you'll hear both "camera dark" and "photo bttn" announced (but not at
> the same time).  While touching the screen where VO says "camera
> dark", try moving your finger to the left or right, and then back in
> the opposite direction.  You'll hear "photo bttn" announced when you
> are on either side of where "camera dark" is announced.  You can
> double tap when focus is on either of these two button elements, and
> get th e same results with TextGrabber.  Spatially, I thin that the
> "camera dark" is an icon that sits in the very center of the "photo
> bttn" button, but that tapping anywhere in the "photo bttn" region on
> the screen will take a picture.  So if you flick to the button
> controls, you'll hear separate announcements for "photo bttn" and
> "camera dark"; and if you do a four-finger tap on the bottom half of
> the screen to move to the last element, you'll be focused on the
> "camera dark" button.  But if you directly touch the bottom of the
> screen above the home button, you might hear VO announce either
> button, depending on whether you have touched near the center of the
> "photo bttn" button or closer to its edge. However, double tapping
> when focus is on either button gives the same results.
> 
> The only confusing point is that if you flick through the controls, VO
> first announces the "photo bttn" button (in the bottom center of the
> screen), then "album" button (in the bottom right corner of the
> screen), then "camera dark" button (again in the bottom center of the
> screen, but occupying a more restricted region.
> 
> Hope this explanation helps.  just my thoughts on this, though. In my
> experience you can use either of the two button controls
> interchangeably, and you can also directly touch the bottom center of
> the screen to locate the button(s) for taking pictures with the
> camera, or you can directly touch the bottom right corner of the
> screen to locate the button for using the album to get pictures from
> the camera roll.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Mar 19, 9:48 pm, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> The original iPad does not have a built-in camera. This would support the 
>> external iPad camera.
>> 
>> 

Re: Explanation Of Camera Dark In,Text Grabber

2013-03-20 Thread Esther
Hi David and Eileen,

I'm puzzled by David's reply that the "Camera Dark" button in the
TextGrabber app would support an external iPad camera for the original
iPad.  First of all, all the ways that I know of getting photos to the
original iPad involve transferring images to the camera roll.  If you
use the Camera Connection kit that plugs in where the 30-pin charging
or sync cable attaches, just below the Home button, you can either
insert an SD card with camera images, if you are using the camera kit
attachment that has a slotted opening to insert an SD card, or you can
use the USB camera kit attachment that lets you plug in an unpowered
USB device, like a card reader, into the USB plug at the other end.
(At least, I used to be able to do this.) in either case, you can only
transfer images, and only to the camera roll.  You can't plug in an
external camera device and control it through the camera kit plug.
I've also read that  are also apps that let you link to your iPhone
through WiFi to display the camera contents on the screen of an iPad
or iPod Touch, and then transfer the picture to the iPad or iPod Touch
camera roll when the picture is taken. None of these apps are
interactive, and you have to take the picture using the controls on
the iPhone.  You also only directly use the iPhone's camera app, and
can't access any other apps that use the camera.

In answer to Eileen's question about what the "camera dark" button
option is on the TextGrabber screen, I think it is just the label for
the image icon of a camera that sits in the middle of the "photo bttn"
button on the main TextGrabber screen.  If you slowly move your finger
vertically up from the home button at the bottom of the iPhone screen,
you'll hear both "camera dark" and "photo bttn" announced (but not at
the same time).  While touching the screen where VO says "camera
dark", try moving your finger to the left or right, and then back in
the opposite direction.  You'll hear "photo bttn" announced when you
are on either side of where "camera dark" is announced.  You can
double tap when focus is on either of these two button elements, and
get th e same results with TextGrabber.  Spatially, I thin that the
"camera dark" is an icon that sits in the very center of the "photo
bttn" button, but that tapping anywhere in the "photo bttn" region on
the screen will take a picture.  So if you flick to the button
controls, you'll hear separate announcements for "photo bttn" and
"camera dark"; and if you do a four-finger tap on the bottom half of
the screen to move to the last element, you'll be focused on the
"camera dark" button.  But if you directly touch the bottom of the
screen above the home button, you might hear VO announce either
button, depending on whether you have touched near the center of the
"photo bttn" button or closer to its edge. However, double tapping
when focus is on either button gives the same results.

The only confusing point is that if you flick through the controls, VO
first announces the "photo bttn" button (in the bottom center of the
screen), then "album" button (in the bottom right corner of the
screen), then "camera dark" button (again in the bottom center of the
screen, but occupying a more restricted region.

Hope this explanation helps.  just my thoughts on this, though. In my
experience you can use either of the two button controls
interchangeably, and you can also directly touch the bottom center of
the screen to locate the button(s) for taking pictures with the
camera, or you can directly touch the bottom right corner of the
screen to locate the button for using the album to get pictures from
the camera roll.

Cheers,

Esther

On Mar 19, 9:48 pm, David Chittenden  wrote:
> The original iPad does not have a built-in camera. This would support the 
> external iPad camera.
>
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile:+64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 20/03/2013, at 19:44, Eileens Misrahi  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In,Text Grabber, The last option on the bottom is labeled "camera Dark." 
> > Can anyone who uses Text Grabber explai what this option does in capturing 
> > an image? Thanks for the information in advance.
>
> > Best,
> > Eileen
>
> > Sent from my iPhone
>

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Re: Explanation Of Camera Dark In,Text Grabber

2013-03-20 Thread David Chittenden
The original iPad does not have a built-in camera. This would support the 
external iPad camera. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Sent from my iPhone

On 20/03/2013, at 19:44, Eileens Misrahi  wrote:

> In,Text Grabber, The last option on the bottom is labeled "camera Dark." Can 
> anyone who uses Text Grabber explai what this option does in capturing an 
> image? Thanks for the information in advance.
> 
> Best,
> Eileen
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Explanation Of Camera Dark In,Text Grabber

2013-03-19 Thread Eileens Misrahi
In,Text Grabber, The last option on the bottom is labeled "camera Dark." Can 
anyone who uses Text Grabber explai what this option does in capturing an 
image? Thanks for the information in advance.

Best,
Eileen

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RE: Looking for an explanation

2013-02-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Donald,

I think what your sister in law did is embed the picture into the email
itself rather than sending it as an attachment. 47 K is actually not very
big, if you were to attach a picture from even a 3 Megapixel camera without
resizing it first it would be a couple of Megabites. I sometimes get these
emails from sales reps who want to let us know about a product and they put
the picture right into the email which means it's perfectly available to a
sighted person, but you can't open or save it as you would if it were an
attachment.


Regards,
Sieghard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Donald L. Roberts
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 10:18 AM
To: Viphone
Subject: Looking for an explanation

I apologize for the vague subject line, but I couldn't determine a way 
to state the problem succinctly.

My sister-in-law forwarded an email message to us which contained some 
photos. The message was sent from my sister-in-law's ipad to one of our 
Gmail accounts.  Neither Thunderbird nor Windows Live Mail indicated 
that this message contained an attachment.  Nor did I see any indication 
of same when I went to the Gmail web site.  However because the message 
was 47 K in size, I suspected that something was there.  So, I forwarded 
the message using Thunderbird to our sighted daughter who confirmed that 
the message did contain a picture.

This is certainly not a big thing, but I would certainly appreciate an 
explanation as there seems to be an incompatibility as none of the mail 
programs indicated that the message contained an attachment.

Thanks much for any response.

Don Roberts

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Re: Looking for an explanation

2013-02-06 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi. It sounds like the picture was embedded in the message itself. If 
the message was sent as an html file, I think it can be done that way, 
which unfortunately makes the picture inaccessible to save or remove 
from the message itself for saving separately.


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On 2/6/2013 12:17 PM, Donald L. Roberts wrote:

I apologize for the vague subject line, but I couldn't determine a way
to state the problem succinctly.

My sister-in-law forwarded an email message to us which contained some
photos. The message was sent from my sister-in-law's ipad to one of our
Gmail accounts.  Neither Thunderbird nor Windows Live Mail indicated
that this message contained an attachment.  Nor did I see any indication
of same when I went to the Gmail web site.  However because the message
was 47 K in size, I suspected that something was there.  So, I forwarded
the message using Thunderbird to our sighted daughter who confirmed that
the message did contain a picture.

This is certainly not a big thing, but I would certainly appreciate an
explanation as there seems to be an incompatibility as none of the mail
programs indicated that the message contained an attachment.

Thanks much for any response.

Don Roberts



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Looking for an explanation

2013-02-06 Thread Donald L. Roberts
I apologize for the vague subject line, but I couldn't determine a way 
to state the problem succinctly.


My sister-in-law forwarded an email message to us which contained some 
photos. The message was sent from my sister-in-law's ipad to one of our 
Gmail accounts.  Neither Thunderbird nor Windows Live Mail indicated 
that this message contained an attachment.  Nor did I see any indication 
of same when I went to the Gmail web site.  However because the message 
was 47 K in size, I suspected that something was there.  So, I forwarded 
the message using Thunderbird to our sighted daughter who confirmed that 
the message did contain a picture.


This is certainly not a big thing, but I would certainly appreciate an 
explanation as there seems to be an incompatibility as none of the mail 
programs indicated that the message contained an attachment.


Thanks much for any response.

Don Roberts

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Re: Explanation on iPad please

2012-10-04 Thread Garth Humphreys
Hi shane

I see what you mean with getting stuck. However you can get to the subject 
field by tapping on enter a couple of times. It sort of works like a tab key 
would 
 
Sent from my iPhone

On 04/10/2012, at 15:07, Shane Clark  wrote:

Garth, I apologize, when I pasted what I wanted to say in that last message, it 
was pasted in the first part of the message versus the last part. Hope to hear 
from you soon. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 4, 2012, at 12:39 AM, Garth Humphreys  wrote:

> Hi Shane 
> 
> As far as I know, yes you do need to click on the tab to bring up the close 
> tab button. There may be another way but I have not come across it.
> 
> As for containers, these are major sections of the current UI. For example go 
> to the Mail app and put the rotor option on containers. Now use the up and 
> down flick to see how your focus is moved through the app. It is basically 
> just another way of moving through an interface. You might like to check out 
> my podcast on gestures specifically for the iPad in which I cover this topic. 
> Link below.
> http://www.iblindtech.com/storage/iBt-006-Gestures201-iPad.mp3
> The iPad does not get the passbook app.
> 
> Garth 
> Www.iblindtech.com
> 
> 
> On 04/10/2012, at 2:15 PM, Shane Clark  wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> I've an iPad 3, and I need a little help on tabs. When Closing a tab, do you 
>> have to click on the tab before you can close it? And how can you see how 
>> many tabs are opened when in Safari? And when in the rotor what does 
>> containers mean?
>> Also, does passbook come with the iPad when updating to iOS six? I can't 
>> seem to find It anywhere. 
>> Thanks, Shane.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Explanation on iPad please

2012-10-03 Thread Shane Clark
Garth, I apologize, when I pasted what I wanted to say in that last message, it 
was pasted in the first part of the message versus the last part. Hope to hear 
from you soon. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 4, 2012, at 12:39 AM, Garth Humphreys  wrote:

> Hi Shane 
> 
> As far as I know, yes you do need to click on the tab to bring up the close 
> tab button. There may be another way but I have not come across it.
> 
> As for containers, these are major sections of the current UI. For example go 
> to the Mail app and put the rotor option on containers. Now use the up and 
> down flick to see how your focus is moved through the app. It is basically 
> just another way of moving through an interface. You might like to check out 
> my podcast on gestures specifically for the iPad in which I cover this topic. 
> Link below.
> http://www.iblindtech.com/storage/iBt-006-Gestures201-iPad.mp3
> The iPad does not get the passbook app.
> 
> Garth 
> Www.iblindtech.com
> 
> 
> On 04/10/2012, at 2:15 PM, Shane Clark  wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> I've an iPad 3, and I need a little help on tabs. When Closing a tab, do you 
>> have to click on the tab before you can close it? And how can you see how 
>> many tabs are opened when in Safari? And when in the rotor what does 
>> containers mean?
>> Also, does passbook come with the iPad when updating to iOS six? I can't 
>> seem to find It anywhere. 
>> Thanks, Shane.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Explanation on iPad please

2012-10-03 Thread Shane Clark
Hi,
Has anyone noticed that when writing an email, but sending it To multiple 
addresses, One gets stuck in the cc/B CC field? What has happened to me, is 
when I entered in three email addresses, and I go to find the subject field, I 
get stuck in this Cc/B cc field. The only way I can find the subject field, is 
to remove the third email address, then write my email, then before sending, I 
Anter the third email address, and all goes well. Is this a possible bug in iOS 
six?  I have already tried closing the app switcher  and removing apps from it 
and rebooting the phone. I'm running iOS six onan iPhone 4S. Thanks, Shane.

Sent from my iPhoneThanks So much Garth. 
Did you by chance read my post regarding email? If not, here it is below. 


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 4, 2012, at 12:39 AM, Garth Humphreys  wrote:

> Hi Shane 
> 
> As far as I know, yes you do need to click on the tab to bring up the close 
> tab button. There may be another way but I have not come across it.
> 
> As for containers, these are major sections of the current UI. For example go 
> to the Mail app and put the rotor option on containers. Now use the up and 
> down flick to see how your focus is moved through the app. It is basically 
> just another way of moving through an interface. You might like to check out 
> my podcast on gestures specifically for the iPad in which I cover this topic. 
> Link below.
> http://www.iblindtech.com/storage/iBt-006-Gestures201-iPad.mp3
> The iPad does not get the passbook app.
> 
> Garth 
> Www.iblindtech.com
> 
> 
> On 04/10/2012, at 2:15 PM, Shane Clark  wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> I've an iPad 3, and I need a little help on tabs. When Closing a tab, do you 
>> have to click on the tab before you can close it? And how can you see how 
>> many tabs are opened when in Safari? And when in the rotor what does 
>> containers mean?
>> Also, does passbook come with the iPad when updating to iOS six? I can't 
>> seem to find It anywhere. 
>> Thanks, Shane.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Hi,
Has anyone noticed that when writing an email, but sending it To multiple 
addresses, One gets stuck in the cc/B CC field? What has happened to me, is 
when I entered in three email addresses, and I go to find the subject field, I 
get stuck in this Cc/B cc field. The only way I can find the subject field, is 
to remove the third email address, then write my email, then before sending, I 
Anter the third email address, and all goes well. Is this a possible bug in iOS 
six?  I have already tried closing the app switcher  and removing apps from it 
and rebooting the phone. I'm running iOS six onan iPhone 4S. Thanks, Shane.

Sent from my iPhoneHi,
Has anyone noticed that when writing an email, but sending it To multiple 
addresses, One gets stuck in the cc/B CC field? What has happened to me, is 
when I entered in three email addresses, and I go to find the subject field, I 
get stuck in this Cc/B cc field. The only way I can find the subject field, is 
to remove the third email address, then write my email, then before sending, I 
Anter the third email address, and all goes well. Is this a possible bug in iOS 
six?  I have already tried closing the app switcher  and removing apps from it 
and rebooting the phone. I'm running iOS six onan iPhone 4S. Thanks, Shane.

Sent from my iPhoneHi,
Has anyone noticed that when writing an email, but sending it To multiple 
addresses, One gets stuck in the cc/B CC field? What has happened to me, is 
when I entered in three email addresses, and I go to find the subject field, I 
get stuck in this Cc/B cc field. The only way I can find the subject field, is 
to remove the third email address, then write my email, then before sending, I 
Anter the third email address, and all goes well. Is this a possible bug in iOS 
six?  I have already tried closing the app switcher  and removing apps from it 
and rebooting the phone. I'm running iOS six onan iPhone 4S. Thanks, Shane.

Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Explanation on iPad please

2012-10-03 Thread Garth Humphreys
Hi Shane 

As far as I know, yes you do need to click on the tab to bring up the close tab 
button. There may be another way but I have not come across it.

As for containers, these are major sections of the current UI. For example go 
to the Mail app and put the rotor option on containers. Now use the up and down 
flick to see how your focus is moved through the app. It is basically just 
another way of moving through an interface. You might like to check out my 
podcast on gestures specifically for the iPad in which I cover this topic. Link 
below.
http://www.iblindtech.com/storage/iBt-006-Gestures201-iPad.mp3
The iPad does not get the passbook app.

Garth 
Www.iblindtech.com


On 04/10/2012, at 2:15 PM, Shane Clark  wrote:

> Hi All,
> I've an iPad 3, and I need a little help on tabs. When Closing a tab, do you 
> have to click on the tab before you can close it? And how can you see how 
> many tabs are opened when in Safari? And when in the rotor what does 
> containers mean?
> Also, does passbook come with the iPad when updating to iOS six? I can't seem 
> to find It anywhere. 
> Thanks, Shane.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Explanation on iPad please

2012-10-03 Thread Shane Clark
Hi All,
I've an iPad 3, and I need a little help on tabs. When Closing a tab, do you 
have to click on the tab before you can close it? And how can you see how many 
tabs are opened when in Safari? And when in the rotor what does containers mean?
Also, does passbook come with the iPad when updating to iOS six? I can't seem 
to find It anywhere. 
Thanks, Shane.

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