Re: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-31 Thread Esther Levegnale
Hey, Joshua!

I absolutely love my iPhone 13 Pro Max!  I can't get over the incredible 
battery life it has!  Hope you are doing well.  I'm doing great and having a 
great summer.  I can't believe it's almost over, though.  It's my favorite 
season.

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Aug 29, 2022, at 4:52 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> The reason why I got a 13 pro max phone was because of the better
> battery life and more internal storage.  My iPhone 8, just didn't have
> that good a battery in it.  Although I swear the battery I had in my 8
> originally was better then the battery that I had to get replaced at
> best buy.  My iPhone 8 has 256 gigs of storage. The SE3 while still
> having the home button also doesn't have enough storage for me.  If I
> didn't have 217 gigs worth of bard books on my old iPhone 8, I
> probably would have gotten a SE3 phone.  Also, while the 13 mini is a
> small phone and can fit in a pocket, I don't think I'd like the
> battery life on it.  I am amazed at how much time I can get out of my
> 13 pro max.  I can easily listen to downloaded dramatized books, or
> stream movies and still have great battery life.  This wasn't possible
> with my old 8.  The reason why I'm still hanging on to my 8 phone is
> because it contains all my downloaded bard books.  As for face ID
> verses touch ID, I honestly like touch ID better.  I can get face ID
> to work, and I really didn't have trouble setting it up.  However, if
> you don't have your face pointed in the wright direction the face ID
> won't work correctly.  I have the one terabyte model of 13 pro max.  A
> very good friend of mine sent me the money to purchase my new phone
> via wire transfer which was kind of cool.
> 
>> On 8/28/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> You watch too much SciFi, there is a reason why if the police wants to
>> identify somebody's DNA it has to be sent to a lab where it takes 24 to 72
>> hours for it to be sequenced and matched to somebody.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> bentleyj1...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 6:24 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>> 
>> DNA recognition in a chip implanted some where in the body probably already
>> exist.  I suspect that for now, it is too expensive to implament.  Let's
>> give that technology another 10 to 15 years.
>> 
>> James B
>> 
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> mi...@eastlink.ca
>> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 8:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>> 
>> Yes but if we start getting recnised with dna then it is not so far off of
>> things like braine chips nad stuff like that. From Mich.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> bentleyj1...@gmail.com
>> Sent: August 28, 2022 9:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>> 
>> A tech support guy from Apple told me around 2 months ago that the sim card
>> is definitely on the way out in favor of E sim.  I would guess that the sim
>> slot is the first place that water might enterr.
>> 
>> I wouldn't care if my finger print sensor is under the screen, I just prefer
>> the Touch ID over face recognition.
>> 
>> I'm not sure how long it takes for technology to double these days but I
>> would not be surprised if smart phones don't recognize users via DNA at some
>> point in the future.
>> 
>> Take care,
>> 
>> James B
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:47 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>> 
>> Actually the IPX rating states 6 metres for up to 30 minutes which is
>> approx. 20 feet.
>> As for Touch Id it will be one of the things of the past in my opinion.
>> There have been rumours ever since Face Id was introduced in 2017 that one
>> day there will be an iPhone which has Face Id and under-display Touch Id
>> meaning your finger print will be read by a sensor embedded in a particular
>> area under the screen, but it's not going to be part of the iPhone 14 this
>> year and while one should never say never, I have a feeling it has gone the
>> way of the 3.5mm headphone jack. Of course such good water resistance can
>> only be achieved if there are fewer points where water can enter. I heard
>> that physical SIM car

RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-31 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
It was a joke Kelly, I thought I had included an appropriate emoji, but maybe I 
forgot.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 12:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thoughts on SE3

Sieghard,

No, I do not wear skinny jeans. I am a powerlifter with big legs from years of 
lifting heavy iron.  I wear basic dress pants from the military or tactical 
pants. these are roomy with extra pockets. The pockets with these pants easily 
fit an iPhone, battery charger, and a pocket speaker, if I decided to carry 
one.  What does not fit is Beats over the ear headphones. I attach the case to 
my belt with a carabiner clip. This allows me to have all the elements for a 
digital lifestyle while going hands free with no backpack or bag.

Kelly



On 8/30/22, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> Caroline,
>
> The iPhone 13 mini has significantly more battery life than the iPhone
> 7 or 8 and more battery life than the 12 Mini. Last year I compared 
> the 13 Mini’s battery life to that of other iPhones, as some on the 
> list were parroting technology journalists who said the 13 Mini had 
> poor battery life but gave no data to support their claims. If you are 
> concerned about battery life, buy a Slim II by Poweradd. It is a 5,000 
> mA battery that can charge an iPhone Mini two times before needing a 
> recharge.  It comes with a carrying case where I have added a 
> lightning charging cable.  I paid $11 without the cable.  The battery 
> is the size of two lighters for smoking or a thick lipstick tube. It 
> fits in most pockets.
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 8/29/22, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> Yes, it'll only be possible on newer phones. All of the options I 
>> mentioned below will require new hardware components, including the 
>> under the glass tough ID.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 5:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> So, if Apple gets it, it will be on newer phones, not likely to be 
>> possible in an update.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 5:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> On some Android devices you do have touch ID under the glass. You 
>> also have touch ID on the back of the phone or as part of the lock 
>> button on the side of the phone.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 1:33 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> Is touch ID without Home Button available yet?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 2:17 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> I don't want to return to a home button either, but you can have 
>> touch ID without a home button. I do prefer touch ID over face ID, 
>> although not enough to keep me from getting a phone I would otherwise prefer.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 9:13 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> No, the 13 mini does not have touch ID, thank goodness, since I do 
>> not want to return to Home Button.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.
>> That would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch 
>> ID on my S E 2020.
>>
>> How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is 
>> the
>> 13
>> mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?
>> That
>> is amazing.
>>
>> Sieghard , Thanks for your information.
>

Re: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-30 Thread Kelly Pierce
Sieghard,

No, I do not wear skinny jeans. I am a powerlifter with big legs from
years of lifting heavy iron.  I wear basic dress pants from the
military or tactical pants. these are roomy with extra pockets. The
pockets with these pants easily fit an iPhone, battery charger, and a
pocket speaker, if I decided to carry one.  What does not fit is Beats
over the ear headphones. I attach the case to my belt with a carabiner
clip. This allows me to have all the elements for a digital lifestyle
while going hands free with no backpack or bag.

Kelly



On 8/30/22, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> Caroline,
>
> The iPhone 13 mini has significantly more battery life than the iPhone
> 7 or 8 and more battery life than the 12 Mini. Last year I compared
> the 13 Mini’s battery life to that of other iPhones, as some on the
> list were parroting technology journalists who said the 13 Mini had
> poor battery life but gave no data to support their claims. If you are
> concerned about battery life, buy a Slim II by Poweradd. It is a 5,000
> mA battery that can charge an iPhone Mini two times before needing a
> recharge.  It comes with a carrying case where I have added a
> lightning charging cable.  I paid $11 without the cable.  The battery
> is the size of two lighters for smoking or a thick lipstick tube. It
> fits in most pockets.
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 8/29/22, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> Yes, it'll only be possible on newer phones. All of the options I
>> mentioned
>> below will require new hardware components, including the under the glass
>> tough ID.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 5:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> So, if Apple gets it, it will be on newer phones, not likely to be
>> possible
>> in an update.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 5:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> On some Android devices you do have touch ID under the glass. You also
>> have
>> touch ID on the back of the phone or as part of the lock button on the
>> side
>> of the phone.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 1:33 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> Is touch ID without Home Button available yet?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 2:17 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> I don't want to return to a home button either, but you can have touch ID
>> without a home button. I do prefer touch ID over face ID, although not
>> enough to keep me from getting a phone I would otherwise prefer.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 9:13 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> No, the 13 mini does not have touch ID, thank goodness, since I do not
>> want
>> to return to Home Button.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.
>> That would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch ID
>> on
>> my S E 2020.
>>
>> How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is the
>> 13
>> mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?
>> That
>> is amazing.
>>
>> Sieghard , Thanks for your information.
>>
>> James B
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups

Re: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-30 Thread Kelly Pierce
Caroline,

The iPhone 13 mini has significantly more battery life than the iPhone
7 or 8 and more battery life than the 12 Mini. Last year I compared
the 13 Mini’s battery life to that of other iPhones, as some on the
list were parroting technology journalists who said the 13 Mini had
poor battery life but gave no data to support their claims. If you are
concerned about battery life, buy a Slim II by Poweradd. It is a 5,000
mA battery that can charge an iPhone Mini two times before needing a
recharge.  It comes with a carrying case where I have added a
lightning charging cable.  I paid $11 without the cable.  The battery
is the size of two lighters for smoking or a thick lipstick tube. It
fits in most pockets.

Kelly



On 8/29/22, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> Yes, it'll only be possible on newer phones. All of the options I mentioned
> below will require new hardware components, including the under the glass
> tough ID.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Carolyn
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 5:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>
> So, if Apple gets it, it will be on newer phones, not likely to be possible
> in an update.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 5:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>
> On some Android devices you do have touch ID under the glass. You also have
> touch ID on the back of the phone or as part of the lock button on the side
> of the phone.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Carolyn
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 1:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>
> Is touch ID without Home Button available yet?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 2:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>
> I don't want to return to a home button either, but you can have touch ID
> without a home button. I do prefer touch ID over face ID, although not
> enough to keep me from getting a phone I would otherwise prefer.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Carolyn
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 9:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>
> No, the 13 mini does not have touch ID, thank goodness, since I do not want
> to return to Home Button.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>
> I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.
> That would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch ID on
> my S E 2020.
>
> How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is the 13
> mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?  That
> is amazing.
>
> Sieghard , Thanks for your information.
>
> James B
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>
> Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder speakers I
> doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want good sound use your
> iPhone with a good headset or speaker.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>
> Which phone has the best sound?
>
> James B
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>
> The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well
> as IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search
> for "iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but
> let's not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13
> Mini it has a larger screen

RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-29 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Yes, it'll only be possible on newer phones. All of the options I mentioned 
below will require new hardware components, including the under the glass tough 
ID.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

So, if Apple gets it, it will be on newer phones, not likely to be possible in 
an update. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

On some Android devices you do have touch ID under the glass. You also have 
touch ID on the back of the phone or as part of the lock button on the side of 
the phone.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 1:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Is touch ID without Home Button available yet? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 2:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

I don't want to return to a home button either, but you can have touch ID 
without a home button. I do prefer touch ID over face ID, although not enough 
to keep me from getting a phone I would otherwise prefer.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 9:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

No, the 13 mini does not have touch ID, thank goodness, since I do not want to 
return to Home Button. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.  That 
would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch ID on my S E 
2020.

How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is the 13 
mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?  That is 
amazing.

Sieghard , Thanks for your information.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder speakers I 
doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want good sound use your 
iPhone with a good headset or speaker.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Which phone has the best sound?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the 
shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will 
just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned I agree 
with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer design with 
larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but then 
again I wouldn't buy either one since I hate having a phone in my pocket even 
one as small as the 13 Mini. In fact, I didn't even carry my iPhone 4S in my 
pocket and it was even smaller than that. I always wear a belt so a belt hip 
holster for me is simply the way to go. Here now those specs:

iPhone 13 mi

RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-29 Thread Dennis Long
Absolutely not as part of an update it isn't possible.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 6:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

So, if Apple gets it, it will be on newer phones, not likely to be possible in 
an update. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

On some Android devices you do have touch ID under the glass. You also have 
touch ID on the back of the phone or as part of the lock button on the side of 
the phone.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 1:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Is touch ID without Home Button available yet? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 2:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

I don't want to return to a home button either, but you can have touch ID 
without a home button. I do prefer touch ID over face ID, although not enough 
to keep me from getting a phone I would otherwise prefer.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 9:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

No, the 13 mini does not have touch ID, thank goodness, since I do not want to 
return to Home Button. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.  That 
would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch ID on my S E 
2020.

How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is the 13 
mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?  That is 
amazing.

Sieghard , Thanks for your information.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder speakers I 
doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want good sound use your 
iPhone with a good headset or speaker.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Which phone has the best sound?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the 
shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will 
just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned I agree 
with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer design with 
larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but then 
again I wouldn't buy either one since I hate having a phone in my pocket even 
one as small as the 13 Mini. In fact, I didn't even carry my iPhone 4S in my 
pocket and it was even smaller than that. I always wear a belt so a belt hip 
holster for me is simply the way to go. Here now those specs:

iPhone 13 mini
5.18 x 2.53 x 0.3 inches and 4.94 ounces
131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm and 140 grams
Rated IP68 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 6 metres up to 30

RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-29 Thread Carolyn
So, if Apple gets it, it will be on newer phones, not likely to be possible in 
an update. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

On some Android devices you do have touch ID under the glass. You also have 
touch ID on the back of the phone or as part of the lock button on the side of 
the phone.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 1:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Is touch ID without Home Button available yet? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 2:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

I don't want to return to a home button either, but you can have touch ID 
without a home button. I do prefer touch ID over face ID, although not enough 
to keep me from getting a phone I would otherwise prefer.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 9:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

No, the 13 mini does not have touch ID, thank goodness, since I do not want to 
return to Home Button. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.  That 
would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch ID on my S E 
2020.

How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is the 13 
mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?  That is 
amazing.

Sieghard , Thanks for your information.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder speakers I 
doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want good sound use your 
iPhone with a good headset or speaker.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Which phone has the best sound?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the 
shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will 
just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned I agree 
with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer design with 
larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but then 
again I wouldn't buy either one since I hate having a phone in my pocket even 
one as small as the 13 Mini. In fact, I didn't even carry my iPhone 4S in my 
pocket and it was even smaller than that. I always wear a belt so a belt hip 
holster for me is simply the way to go. Here now those specs:

iPhone 13 mini
5.18 x 2.53 x 0.3 inches and 4.94 ounces
131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm and 140 grams
Rated IP68 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 6 metres up to 30 minutes)

iPhone SE
5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29 inches and 5.08 ounces
138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm and 144 grams
Rated IP67 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 1 metres  up to 30 minutes)


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com

RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-29 Thread Christopher Chaltain
On some Android devices you do have touch ID under the glass. You also have 
touch ID on the back of the phone or as part of the lock button on the side of 
the phone.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 1:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Is touch ID without Home Button available yet? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 2:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

I don't want to return to a home button either, but you can have touch ID 
without a home button. I do prefer touch ID over face ID, although not enough 
to keep me from getting a phone I would otherwise prefer.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 9:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

No, the 13 mini does not have touch ID, thank goodness, since I do not want to 
return to Home Button. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.  That 
would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch ID on my S E 
2020.

How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is the 13 
mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?  That is 
amazing.

Sieghard , Thanks for your information.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder speakers I 
doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want good sound use your 
iPhone with a good headset or speaker.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Which phone has the best sound?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the 
shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will 
just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned I agree 
with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer design with 
larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but then 
again I wouldn't buy either one since I hate having a phone in my pocket even 
one as small as the 13 Mini. In fact, I didn't even carry my iPhone 4S in my 
pocket and it was even smaller than that. I always wear a belt so a belt hip 
holster for me is simply the way to go. Here now those specs:

iPhone 13 mini
5.18 x 2.53 x 0.3 inches and 4.94 ounces
131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm and 140 grams
Rated IP68 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 6 metres up to 30 minutes)

iPhone SE
5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29 inches and 5.08 ounces
138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm and 144 grams
Rated IP67 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 1 metres  up to 30 minutes)


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 12:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thoughts on SE3

The phone is not small. If you want a smaller size phone, then go for the 13 
Mini like I did.  I can carry the Mini easily in any pocket.

Kelly



On 8/27/22, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
>

RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-29 Thread Carolyn
Is touch ID without Home Button available yet? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 2:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

I don't want to return to a home button either, but you can have touch ID 
without a home button. I do prefer touch ID over face ID, although not enough 
to keep me from getting a phone I would otherwise prefer.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 9:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

No, the 13 mini does not have touch ID, thank goodness, since I do not want to 
return to Home Button. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.  That 
would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch ID on my S E 
2020.

How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is the 13 
mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?  That is 
amazing.

Sieghard , Thanks for your information.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder speakers I 
doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want good sound use your 
iPhone with a good headset or speaker.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Which phone has the best sound?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the 
shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will 
just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned I agree 
with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer design with 
larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but then 
again I wouldn't buy either one since I hate having a phone in my pocket even 
one as small as the 13 Mini. In fact, I didn't even carry my iPhone 4S in my 
pocket and it was even smaller than that. I always wear a belt so a belt hip 
holster for me is simply the way to go. Here now those specs:

iPhone 13 mini
5.18 x 2.53 x 0.3 inches and 4.94 ounces
131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm and 140 grams
Rated IP68 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 6 metres up to 30 minutes)

iPhone SE
5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29 inches and 5.08 ounces
138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm and 144 grams
Rated IP67 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 1 metres  up to 30 minutes)


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 12:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thoughts on SE3

The phone is not small. If you want a smaller size phone, then go for the 13 
Mini like I did.  I can carry the Mini easily in any pocket.

Kelly



On 8/27/22, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> I'm very pleased with mine. I needed to upgrade as my old Se was 
> having battery issues and had resigned myself to having to have an 
> iPhone without a home button so was pleasantly surprised. The battery 
> life is certainly much better but I've not experimented to find out 
> just how long it does last. But when I ran Duo Lingo on my old phone, 
> within a morning I w

RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-29 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I don't want to return to a home button either, but you can have touch ID 
without a home button. I do prefer touch ID over face ID, although not enough 
to keep me from getting a phone I would otherwise prefer.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 9:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

No, the 13 mini does not have touch ID, thank goodness, since I do not want to 
return to Home Button. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.  That 
would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch ID on my S E 
2020.

How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is the 13 
mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?  That is 
amazing.

Sieghard , Thanks for your information.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder speakers I 
doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want good sound use your 
iPhone with a good headset or speaker.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Which phone has the best sound?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the 
shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will 
just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned I agree 
with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer design with 
larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but then 
again I wouldn't buy either one since I hate having a phone in my pocket even 
one as small as the 13 Mini. In fact, I didn't even carry my iPhone 4S in my 
pocket and it was even smaller than that. I always wear a belt so a belt hip 
holster for me is simply the way to go. Here now those specs:

iPhone 13 mini
5.18 x 2.53 x 0.3 inches and 4.94 ounces
131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm and 140 grams
Rated IP68 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 6 metres up to 30 minutes)

iPhone SE
5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29 inches and 5.08 ounces
138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm and 144 grams
Rated IP67 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 1 metres  up to 30 minutes)


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 12:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thoughts on SE3

The phone is not small. If you want a smaller size phone, then go for the 13 
Mini like I did.  I can carry the Mini easily in any pocket.

Kelly



On 8/27/22, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> I'm very pleased with mine. I needed to upgrade as my old Se was 
> having battery issues and had resigned myself to having to have an 
> iPhone without a home button so was pleasantly surprised. The battery 
> life is certainly much better but I've not experimented to find out 
> just how long it does last. But when I ran Duo Lingo on my old phone, 
> within a morning I was getting a low battery message whereas I now 
> very rarely get such a message and only after heavy useage.
>
> Alison
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: 26 August 2022 18:36
> To: viphone@

RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-29 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Just touching on one of Sieghard's points, but as Apple demonstrated on a few 
of their iPhones, you can have a home button without creating an entry point 
for water. They had two phones, I think, where the home button wasn't a 
mechanical button, but rather an indentation on the phone with a haptic 
reaction the simulated the press of a button.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

I agree with you, Sieghard about phones for the future - think that the Home 
Button is going bye bye. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 8:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Actually the IPX rating states 6 metres for up to 30 minutes which is approx. 
20 feet.
As for Touch Id it will be one of the things of the past in my opinion. There 
have been rumours ever since Face Id was introduced in 2017 that one day there 
will be an iPhone which has Face Id and under-display Touch Id meaning your 
finger print will be read by a sensor embedded in a particular area under the 
screen, but it's not going to be part of the iPhone 14 this year and while one 
should never say never, I have a feeling it has gone the way of the 3.5mm 
headphone jack. Of course such good water resistance can only be achieved if 
there are fewer points where water can enter. I heard that physical SIM cards 
may also soon be a thing of the past with e-SIM taking over, then it's long 
been rumoured that at some point the iPhone won't have any more connector at 
all and if then the volume buttons and the side button are appropriately 
designed we could be looking at an iPhone which may become the scuba divers new 
underwater camera. After all, most scuba diving is done in 40 feet or less and 
a recreational diver stays down maybe 55 minutes to an hour at the most with a 
single tank so that isn't so far fetched.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.  That 
would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch ID on my S E 
2020.

How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is the 13 
mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?  That is 
amazing.

Sieghard , Thanks for your information.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder speakers I 
doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want good sound use your 
iPhone with a good headset or speaker.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Which phone has the best sound?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the 
shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will 
just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned I agree 
with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer design with 
larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but then 
again I wouldn't buy either one since I hate having a phone in my pocket even 
one as small as the 13 Mini. In fact, I 

RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-29 Thread bentleyj1952
Maybe it takes 24 to 72 hours to match DNA today.  But, with many forms of 
technology doubling every 18 months, who knows what advances will occur in 10 
to 15 years.

Regards,

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 11:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

You watch too much SciFi, there is a reason why if the police wants to identify 
somebody's DNA it has to be sent to a lab where it takes 24 to 72 hours for it 
to be sequenced and matched to somebody.
 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 6:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

DNA recognition in a chip implanted some where in the body probably already 
exist.  I suspect that for now, it is too expensive to implament.  Let's give 
that technology another 10 to 15 years.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 8:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Yes but if we start getting recnised with dna then it is not so far off of 
things like braine chips nad stuff like that. From Mich. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: August 28, 2022 9:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

A tech support guy from Apple told me around 2 months ago that the sim card is 
definitely on the way out in favor of E sim.  I would guess that the sim slot 
is the first place that water might enterr.

I wouldn't care if my finger print sensor is under the screen, I just prefer 
the Touch ID over face recognition.

I'm not sure how long it takes for technology to double these days but I would 
not be surprised if smart phones don't recognize users via DNA at some point in 
the future.

Take care,

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Actually the IPX rating states 6 metres for up to 30 minutes which is approx. 
20 feet.
As for Touch Id it will be one of the things of the past in my opinion. There 
have been rumours ever since Face Id was introduced in 2017 that one day there 
will be an iPhone which has Face Id and under-display Touch Id meaning your 
finger print will be read by a sensor embedded in a particular area under the 
screen, but it's not going to be part of the iPhone 14 this year and while one 
should never say never, I have a feeling it has gone the way of the 3.5mm 
headphone jack. Of course such good water resistance can only be achieved if 
there are fewer points where water can enter. I heard that physical SIM cards 
may also soon be a thing of the past with e-SIM taking over, then it's long 
been rumoured that at some point the iPhone won't have any more connector at 
all and if then the volume buttons and the side button are appropriately 
designed we could be looking at an iPhone which may become the scuba divers new 
underwater camera. After all, most scuba diving is done in 40 feet or less and 
a recreational diver stays down maybe 55 minutes to an hour at the most with a 
single tank so that isn't so far fetched.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.  That 
would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch ID on my S E 
2020.

How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is the 13 
mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?  That is 
amazing.

Sieghard , Thanks for your information.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder speakers I 
doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want good sound use your 
iPhone with a good headset or speaker.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Which phone has the best sound?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifica

RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-29 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I also choose to leave my books in the cloud, but it doesn’t bother me if 
someone wants to download them to their phone. I don’t care how someone else 
uses their storage.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 12:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Lol.  I agree with you on that one 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 11:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3


Hi Dennis,



That is Joshua's preference so obviously his choice; I entirely agree that it 
is completely unnecessary to have all these books locally downloaded, I have a 
little over 1,000 books in my Audible Canada library and it would be like me 
having all them downloaded to my device or computer, however, since I can 
redownload any one of them at any time in a minute or less I really couldn't 
care less that they are in the cloud. I think it's a bit like some people 
collecting/hording certain items (no offense intended), it is just the way 
people are.



All I can do is maybe ask Joshua if the friend who gave him the money to 
purchase a $1,500 phone would like to be my friend as well, I'd be happy to 
provide my bank information to receive the wire transfer and just in time for 
the release of the iPhone 14 as well 藍 But then of course I'd be just as happy 
to take the iPhone 13 Pro Max 1 Tb off Joshua's hands since it is entirely 
possible that Apple will release an iPhone 14 Pro with 2 Gb of storage, imagine 
you could have twice as many books on your phone!



Take care,

Sieghard



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3



Joshua just my opinion you don't need all your bard books on your phone.  Have 
them saved and download as you want to read them.  This would allow you to get 
a phone such as the SE3.



-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson

Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 4:53 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: thoughts on SE3



The reason why I got a 13 pro max phone was because of the better battery life 
and more internal storage.  My iPhone 8, just didn't have that good a battery 
in it.  Although I swear the battery I had in my 8 originally was better then 
the battery that I had to get replaced at best buy.  My iPhone 8 has 256 gigs 
of storage. The SE3 while still having the home button also doesn't have enough 
storage for me.  If I didn't have 217 gigs worth of bard books on my old iPhone 
8, I probably would have gotten a SE3 phone.  Also, while the 13 mini is a 
small phone and can fit in a pocket, I don't think I'd like the battery life on 
it.  I am amazed at how much time I can get out of my

13 pro max.  I can easily listen to downloaded dramatized books, or stream 
movies and still have great battery life.  This wasn't possible with my old 8.  
The reason why I'm still hanging on to my 8 phone is because it contains all my 
downloaded bard books.  As for face ID verses touch ID, I honestly like touch 
ID better.  I can get face ID to work, and I really didn't have trouble setting 
it up.  However, if you don't have your face pointed in the wright direction 
the face ID won't work correctly.  I have the one terabyte model of 13 pro max. 
 A very good friend of mine sent me the money to purchase my new phone via wire 
transfer which was kind of cool.



On 8/28/22, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

> You watch too much SciFi, there is a reason why if the police wants to

> identify somebody's DNA it has to be sent to a lab where it takes 24

> to 72 hours for it to be sequenced and matched to somebody.

>

> -Original Message-

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of

> bentleyj1...@gmail.com<mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com>

> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 6:24 PM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

>

> DNA recognition in a chip implanted some where in the body probably

> already exist.  I suspect that for now, it is too expensive to

> implament.  Let's give that technology another 10 to 15 years.

>

> James B

>

> -Original Message-

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegr

RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-29 Thread Dennis Long
Lol.  I agree with you on that one 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 11:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

 

Hi Dennis,

 

That is Joshua's preference so obviously his choice; I entirely agree that it 
is completely unnecessary to have all these books locally downloaded, I have a 
little over 1,000 books in my Audible Canada library and it would be like me 
having all them downloaded to my device or computer, however, since I can 
redownload any one of them at any time in a minute or less I really couldn't 
care less that they are in the cloud. I think it's a bit like some people 
collecting/hording certain items (no offense intended), it is just the way 
people are.

 

All I can do is maybe ask Joshua if the friend who gave him the money to 
purchase a $1,500 phone would like to be my friend as well, I'd be happy to 
provide my bank information to receive the wire transfer and just in time for 
the release of the iPhone 14 as well 藍 But then of course I'd be just as happy 
to take the iPhone 13 Pro Max 1 Tb off Joshua's hands since it is entirely 
possible that Apple will release an iPhone 14 Pro with 2 Gb of storage, imagine 
you could have twice as many books on your phone!

 

Take care,

Sieghard

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

 

Joshua just my opinion you don't need all your bard books on your phone.  Have 
them saved and download as you want to read them.  This would allow you to get 
a phone such as the SE3.

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson

Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 4:53 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 

Subject: Re: thoughts on SE3

 

The reason why I got a 13 pro max phone was because of the better battery life 
and more internal storage.  My iPhone 8, just didn't have that good a battery 
in it.  Although I swear the battery I had in my 8 originally was better then 
the battery that I had to get replaced at best buy.  My iPhone 8 has 256 gigs 
of storage. The SE3 while still having the home button also doesn't have enough 
storage for me.  If I didn't have 217 gigs worth of bard books on my old iPhone 
8, I probably would have gotten a SE3 phone.  Also, while the 13 mini is a 
small phone and can fit in a pocket, I don't think I'd like the battery life on 
it.  I am amazed at how much time I can get out of my

13 pro max.  I can easily listen to downloaded dramatized books, or stream 
movies and still have great battery life.  This wasn't possible with my old 8.  
The reason why I'm still hanging on to my 8 phone is because it contains all my 
downloaded bard books.  As for face ID verses touch ID, I honestly like touch 
ID better.  I can get face ID to work, and I really didn't have trouble setting 
it up.  However, if you don't have your face pointed in the wright direction 
the face ID won't work correctly.  I have the one terabyte model of 13 pro max. 
 A very good friend of mine sent me the money to purchase my new phone via wire 
transfer which was kind of cool.

 

On 8/28/22, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > 
wrote:

> You watch too much SciFi, there is a reason why if the police wants to 

> identify somebody's DNA it has to be sent to a lab where it takes 24 

> to 72 hours for it to be sequenced and matched to somebody.

> 

> -Original Message-

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 

> bentleyj1...@gmail.com <mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com> 

> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 6:24 PM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 

> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

> 

> DNA recognition in a chip implanted some where in the body probably 

> already exist.  I suspect that for now, it is too expensive to 

> implament.  Let's give that technology another 10 to 15 years.

> 

> James B

> 

> -Original Message-

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 

> mi...@eastlink.ca <mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca> 

> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 8:20 PM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 

> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

> 

> Yes but if we start getting recnised with dna then it is not so far 

> off of things like braine chips nad stuff like that. From Mich.

> 

RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Dennis,



That is Joshua's preference so obviously his choice; I entirely agree that it 
is completely unnecessary to have all these books locally downloaded, I have a 
little over 1,000 books in my Audible Canada library and it would be like me 
having all them downloaded to my device or computer, however, since I can 
redownload any one of them at any time in a minute or less I really couldn't 
care less that they are in the cloud. I think it's a bit like some people 
collecting/hording certain items (no offense intended), it is just the way 
people are.



All I can do is maybe ask Joshua if the friend who gave him the money to 
purchase a $1,500 phone would like to be my friend as well, I'd be happy to 
provide my bank information to receive the wire transfer and just in time for 
the release of the iPhone 14 as well 藍 But then of course I'd be just as happy 
to take the iPhone 13 Pro Max 1 Tb off Joshua's hands since it is entirely 
possible that Apple will release an iPhone 14 Pro with 2 Gb of storage, imagine 
you could have twice as many books on your phone!



Take care,

Sieghard



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3



Joshua just my opinion you don't need all your bard books on your phone.  Have 
them saved and download as you want to read them.  This would allow you to get 
a phone such as the SE3.



-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson

Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 4:53 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: thoughts on SE3



The reason why I got a 13 pro max phone was because of the better battery life 
and more internal storage.  My iPhone 8, just didn't have that good a battery 
in it.  Although I swear the battery I had in my 8 originally was better then 
the battery that I had to get replaced at best buy.  My iPhone 8 has 256 gigs 
of storage. The SE3 while still having the home button also doesn't have enough 
storage for me.  If I didn't have 217 gigs worth of bard books on my old iPhone 
8, I probably would have gotten a SE3 phone.  Also, while the 13 mini is a 
small phone and can fit in a pocket, I don't think I'd like the battery life on 
it.  I am amazed at how much time I can get out of my

13 pro max.  I can easily listen to downloaded dramatized books, or stream 
movies and still have great battery life.  This wasn't possible with my old 8.  
The reason why I'm still hanging on to my 8 phone is because it contains all my 
downloaded bard books.  As for face ID verses touch ID, I honestly like touch 
ID better.  I can get face ID to work, and I really didn't have trouble setting 
it up.  However, if you don't have your face pointed in the wright direction 
the face ID won't work correctly.  I have the one terabyte model of 13 pro max. 
 A very good friend of mine sent me the money to purchase my new phone via wire 
transfer which was kind of cool.



On 8/28/22, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

> You watch too much SciFi, there is a reason why if the police wants to

> identify somebody's DNA it has to be sent to a lab where it takes 24

> to 72 hours for it to be sequenced and matched to somebody.

>

> -Original Message-

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of

> bentleyj1...@gmail.com<mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com>

> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 6:24 PM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

>

> DNA recognition in a chip implanted some where in the body probably

> already exist.  I suspect that for now, it is too expensive to

> implament.  Let's give that technology another 10 to 15 years.

>

> James B

>

> -Original Message-

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of

> mi...@eastlink.ca<mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>

> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 8:20 PM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

>

> Yes but if we start getting recnised with dna then it is not so far

> off of things like braine chips nad stuff like that. From Mich.

>

> -Original Message-

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of

> bentleyj1...@gmail.com<mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com>

> Sent: August 28

RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-29 Thread Carolyn
Same here, James - pocket the way to go! I have a few things without pockets, 
so I have crocheted some pouches that I can wear like a cross over. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 9:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Ikeep my phone in my pocket for security.  Its too easy for some jerk/jerkette 
to just reach out and grab and run.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Well Sieghard needs a belt clip to hold his iPhone as he has those little 
noodle arms he can't lift it out of his pocket. LOL. 藍
Mr. Ed
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the 
shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will 
just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned I agree 
with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer design with 
larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but then 
again I wouldn't buy either one since I hate having a phone in my pocket even 
one as small as the 13 Mini. In fact, I didn't even carry my iPhone 4S in my 
pocket and it was even smaller than that. I always wear a belt so a belt hip 
holster for me is simply the way to go. Here now those specs:

iPhone 13 mini
5.18 x 2.53 x 0.3 inches and 4.94 ounces
131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm and 140 grams
Rated IP68 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 6 metres up to 30 minutes)

iPhone SE
5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29 inches and 5.08 ounces
138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm and 144 grams
Rated IP67 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 1 metres  up to 30 minutes)


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 12:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thoughts on SE3

The phone is not small. If you want a smaller size phone, then go for the 13 
Mini like I did.  I can carry the Mini easily in any pocket.

Kelly



On 8/27/22, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> I’m very pleased with mine. I needed to upgrade as my old Se was 
> having battery issues and had resigned myself to having to have an 
> iPhone without a home button so was pleasantly surprised. The battery 
> life is certainly much better but I’ve not experimented to find out 
> just how long it does last. But when I ran Duo Lingo on my old phone, 
> within a morning I was getting a low battery message whereas I now 
> very rarely get such a message and only after heavy useage.
>
> Alison
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: 26 August 2022 18:36
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: thoughts on SE3
>
>
>
> What are people’s thoughts on the SE3  that’s the one that came out 
> this year.  Thanks.
>
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RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-29 Thread Carolyn
I agree with you, Sieghard about phones for the future - think that the Home 
Button is going bye bye. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 8:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Actually the IPX rating states 6 metres for up to 30 minutes which is approx. 
20 feet.
As for Touch Id it will be one of the things of the past in my opinion. There 
have been rumours ever since Face Id was introduced in 2017 that one day there 
will be an iPhone which has Face Id and under-display Touch Id meaning your 
finger print will be read by a sensor embedded in a particular area under the 
screen, but it's not going to be part of the iPhone 14 this year and while one 
should never say never, I have a feeling it has gone the way of the 3.5mm 
headphone jack. Of course such good water resistance can only be achieved if 
there are fewer points where water can enter. I heard that physical SIM cards 
may also soon be a thing of the past with e-SIM taking over, then it's long 
been rumoured that at some point the iPhone won't have any more connector at 
all and if then the volume buttons and the side button are appropriately 
designed we could be looking at an iPhone which may become the scuba divers new 
underwater camera. After all, most scuba diving is done in 40 feet or less and 
a recreational diver stays down maybe 55 minutes to an hour at the most with a 
single tank so that isn't so far fetched.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.  That 
would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch ID on my S E 
2020.

How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is the 13 
mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?  That is 
amazing.

Sieghard , Thanks for your information.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder speakers I 
doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want good sound use your 
iPhone with a good headset or speaker.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Which phone has the best sound?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the 
shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will 
just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned I agree 
with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer design with 
larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but then 
again I wouldn't buy either one since I hate having a phone in my pocket even 
one as small as the 13 Mini. In fact, I didn't even carry my iPhone 4S in my 
pocket and it was even smaller than that. I always wear a belt so a belt hip 
holster for me is simply the way to go. Here now those specs:

iPhone 13 mini
5.18 x 2.53 x 0.3 inches and 4.94 ounces
131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm and 140 grams
Rated IP68 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 6 metres up to 30 minutes)

iPhone SE
5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29 inches and 5.08 ounces
138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm and 144 grams
Rated IP67 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 1 metres  up to 30 minutes)


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com

RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-29 Thread Carolyn
No, the 13 mini does not have touch ID, thank goodness, since I do not want to 
return to Home Button. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.  That 
would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch ID on my S E 
2020.

How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is the 13 
mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?  That is 
amazing.

Sieghard , Thanks for your information.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder speakers I 
doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want good sound use your 
iPhone with a good headset or speaker.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Which phone has the best sound?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the 
shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will 
just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned I agree 
with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer design with 
larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but then 
again I wouldn't buy either one since I hate having a phone in my pocket even 
one as small as the 13 Mini. In fact, I didn't even carry my iPhone 4S in my 
pocket and it was even smaller than that. I always wear a belt so a belt hip 
holster for me is simply the way to go. Here now those specs:

iPhone 13 mini
5.18 x 2.53 x 0.3 inches and 4.94 ounces
131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm and 140 grams
Rated IP68 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 6 metres up to 30 minutes)

iPhone SE
5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29 inches and 5.08 ounces
138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm and 144 grams
Rated IP67 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 1 metres  up to 30 minutes)


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 12:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thoughts on SE3

The phone is not small. If you want a smaller size phone, then go for the 13 
Mini like I did.  I can carry the Mini easily in any pocket.

Kelly



On 8/27/22, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> I’m very pleased with mine. I needed to upgrade as my old Se was 
> having battery issues and had resigned myself to having to have an 
> iPhone without a home button so was pleasantly surprised. The battery 
> life is certainly much better but I’ve not experimented to find out 
> just how long it does last. But when I ran Duo Lingo on my old phone, 
> within a morning I was getting a low battery message whereas I now 
> very rarely get such a message and only after heavy useage.
>
> Alison
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: 26 August 2022 18:36
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: thoughts on SE3
>
>
>
> What are people’s thoughts on the SE3  that’s the one that came out 
> this year.  Thanks.
>
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RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-29 Thread Dennis Long
Joshua just my opinion you don't need all your bard books on your phone.  Have 
them saved and download as you want to read them.  This would allow you to get 
a phone such as the SE3.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 4:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thoughts on SE3

The reason why I got a 13 pro max phone was because of the better battery life 
and more internal storage.  My iPhone 8, just didn't have that good a battery 
in it.  Although I swear the battery I had in my 8 originally was better then 
the battery that I had to get replaced at best buy.  My iPhone 8 has 256 gigs 
of storage. The SE3 while still having the home button also doesn't have enough 
storage for me.  If I didn't have 217 gigs worth of bard books on my old iPhone 
8, I probably would have gotten a SE3 phone.  Also, while the 13 mini is a 
small phone and can fit in a pocket, I don't think I'd like the battery life on 
it.  I am amazed at how much time I can get out of my
13 pro max.  I can easily listen to downloaded dramatized books, or stream 
movies and still have great battery life.  This wasn't possible with my old 8.  
The reason why I'm still hanging on to my 8 phone is because it contains all my 
downloaded bard books.  As for face ID verses touch ID, I honestly like touch 
ID better.  I can get face ID to work, and I really didn't have trouble setting 
it up.  However, if you don't have your face pointed in the wright direction 
the face ID won't work correctly.  I have the one terabyte model of 13 pro max. 
 A very good friend of mine sent me the money to purchase my new phone via wire 
transfer which was kind of cool.

On 8/28/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> You watch too much SciFi, there is a reason why if the police wants to 
> identify somebody's DNA it has to be sent to a lab where it takes 24 
> to 72 hours for it to be sequenced and matched to somebody.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 6:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>
> DNA recognition in a chip implanted some where in the body probably 
> already exist.  I suspect that for now, it is too expensive to 
> implament.  Let's give that technology another 10 to 15 years.
>
> James B
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> mi...@eastlink.ca
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 8:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>
> Yes but if we start getting recnised with dna then it is not so far 
> off of things like braine chips nad stuff like that. From Mich.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> Sent: August 28, 2022 9:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>
> A tech support guy from Apple told me around 2 months ago that the sim 
> card is definitely on the way out in favor of E sim.  I would guess 
> that the sim slot is the first place that water might enterr.
>
> I wouldn't care if my finger print sensor is under the screen, I just 
> prefer the Touch ID over face recognition.
>
> I'm not sure how long it takes for technology to double these days but 
> I would not be surprised if smart phones don't recognize users via DNA 
> at some point in the future.
>
> Take care,
>
> James B
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>
> Actually the IPX rating states 6 metres for up to 30 minutes which is 
> approx. 20 feet.
> As for Touch Id it will be one of the things of the past in my opinion.
> There have been rumours ever since Face Id was introduced in 2017 that 
> one day there will be an iPhone which has Face Id and under-display 
> Touch Id meaning your finger print will be read by a sensor embedded 
> in a particular area under the screen, but it's not going to be part 
> of the iPhone 14 this year and while one should never say never, I 
> have a feeling it has gone the way of the 3.5mm headphone jack. Of 
> course such good water resistance can only be achieved if there are 
> fewer points where water can enter. I heard that physical SIM cards 
> may also soon be a thing of the past with e-SIM taking over, then it's 
> long been rumoured that at some point the iPhone won't have any more 
> connector at all and if then the volume buttons and the side button 
> are appropriately designed we could be looking at an iPhone which may 
> become the scuba divers new underwater camera. After all, most scub

Re: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-29 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
The reason why I got a 13 pro max phone was because of the better
battery life and more internal storage.  My iPhone 8, just didn't have
that good a battery in it.  Although I swear the battery I had in my 8
originally was better then the battery that I had to get replaced at
best buy.  My iPhone 8 has 256 gigs of storage. The SE3 while still
having the home button also doesn't have enough storage for me.  If I
didn't have 217 gigs worth of bard books on my old iPhone 8, I
probably would have gotten a SE3 phone.  Also, while the 13 mini is a
small phone and can fit in a pocket, I don't think I'd like the
battery life on it.  I am amazed at how much time I can get out of my
13 pro max.  I can easily listen to downloaded dramatized books, or
stream movies and still have great battery life.  This wasn't possible
with my old 8.  The reason why I'm still hanging on to my 8 phone is
because it contains all my downloaded bard books.  As for face ID
verses touch ID, I honestly like touch ID better.  I can get face ID
to work, and I really didn't have trouble setting it up.  However, if
you don't have your face pointed in the wright direction the face ID
won't work correctly.  I have the one terabyte model of 13 pro max.  A
very good friend of mine sent me the money to purchase my new phone
via wire transfer which was kind of cool.

On 8/28/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> You watch too much SciFi, there is a reason why if the police wants to
> identify somebody's DNA it has to be sent to a lab where it takes 24 to 72
> hours for it to be sequenced and matched to somebody.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 6:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>
> DNA recognition in a chip implanted some where in the body probably already
> exist.  I suspect that for now, it is too expensive to implament.  Let's
> give that technology another 10 to 15 years.
>
> James B
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> mi...@eastlink.ca
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 8:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>
> Yes but if we start getting recnised with dna then it is not so far off of
> things like braine chips nad stuff like that. From Mich.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> Sent: August 28, 2022 9:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>
> A tech support guy from Apple told me around 2 months ago that the sim card
> is definitely on the way out in favor of E sim.  I would guess that the sim
> slot is the first place that water might enterr.
>
> I wouldn't care if my finger print sensor is under the screen, I just prefer
> the Touch ID over face recognition.
>
> I'm not sure how long it takes for technology to double these days but I
> would not be surprised if smart phones don't recognize users via DNA at some
> point in the future.
>
> Take care,
>
> James B
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>
> Actually the IPX rating states 6 metres for up to 30 minutes which is
> approx. 20 feet.
> As for Touch Id it will be one of the things of the past in my opinion.
> There have been rumours ever since Face Id was introduced in 2017 that one
> day there will be an iPhone which has Face Id and under-display Touch Id
> meaning your finger print will be read by a sensor embedded in a particular
> area under the screen, but it's not going to be part of the iPhone 14 this
> year and while one should never say never, I have a feeling it has gone the
> way of the 3.5mm headphone jack. Of course such good water resistance can
> only be achieved if there are fewer points where water can enter. I heard
> that physical SIM cards may also soon be a thing of the past with e-SIM
> taking over, then it's long been rumoured that at some point the iPhone
> won't have any more connector at all and if then the volume buttons and the
> side button are appropriately designed we could be looking at an iPhone
> which may become the scuba divers new underwater camera. After all, most
> scuba diving is done in 40 feet or less and a recreational diver stays down
> maybe 55 minutes to an hour at the most with a single tank so that isn't so
> far fetched.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>
> I have no

RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
You watch too much SciFi, there is a reason why if the police wants to identify 
somebody's DNA it has to be sent to a lab where it takes 24 to 72 hours for it 
to be sequenced and matched to somebody.
 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 6:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

DNA recognition in a chip implanted some where in the body probably already 
exist.  I suspect that for now, it is too expensive to implament.  Let's give 
that technology another 10 to 15 years.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 8:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Yes but if we start getting recnised with dna then it is not so far off of 
things like braine chips nad stuff like that. From Mich. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: August 28, 2022 9:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

A tech support guy from Apple told me around 2 months ago that the sim card is 
definitely on the way out in favor of E sim.  I would guess that the sim slot 
is the first place that water might enterr.

I wouldn't care if my finger print sensor is under the screen, I just prefer 
the Touch ID over face recognition.

I'm not sure how long it takes for technology to double these days but I would 
not be surprised if smart phones don't recognize users via DNA at some point in 
the future.

Take care,

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Actually the IPX rating states 6 metres for up to 30 minutes which is approx. 
20 feet.
As for Touch Id it will be one of the things of the past in my opinion. There 
have been rumours ever since Face Id was introduced in 2017 that one day there 
will be an iPhone which has Face Id and under-display Touch Id meaning your 
finger print will be read by a sensor embedded in a particular area under the 
screen, but it's not going to be part of the iPhone 14 this year and while one 
should never say never, I have a feeling it has gone the way of the 3.5mm 
headphone jack. Of course such good water resistance can only be achieved if 
there are fewer points where water can enter. I heard that physical SIM cards 
may also soon be a thing of the past with e-SIM taking over, then it's long 
been rumoured that at some point the iPhone won't have any more connector at 
all and if then the volume buttons and the side button are appropriately 
designed we could be looking at an iPhone which may become the scuba divers new 
underwater camera. After all, most scuba diving is done in 40 feet or less and 
a recreational diver stays down maybe 55 minutes to an hour at the most with a 
single tank so that isn't so far fetched.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.  That 
would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch ID on my S E 
2020.

How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is the 13 
mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?  That is 
amazing.

Sieghard , Thanks for your information.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder speakers I 
doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want good sound use your 
iPhone with a good headset or speaker.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Which phone has the best sound?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in t

RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-28 Thread Christopher Chaltain
You still have a mute button, two volume buttons, a lock button and speaker 
grills. From what I've read, the key to making smart phones water resistant 
isn't by keeping water out but rather by keeping water from damaging internal 
components.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 8:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

A tech support guy from Apple told me around 2 months ago that the sim card is 
definitely on the way out in favor of E sim.  I would guess that the sim slot 
is the first place that water might enterr.

I wouldn't care if my finger print sensor is under the screen, I just prefer 
the Touch ID over face recognition.

I'm not sure how long it takes for technology to double these days but I would 
not be surprised if smart phones don't recognize users via DNA at some point in 
the future.

Take care,

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Actually the IPX rating states 6 metres for up to 30 minutes which is approx. 
20 feet.
As for Touch Id it will be one of the things of the past in my opinion. There 
have been rumours ever since Face Id was introduced in 2017 that one day there 
will be an iPhone which has Face Id and under-display Touch Id meaning your 
finger print will be read by a sensor embedded in a particular area under the 
screen, but it's not going to be part of the iPhone 14 this year and while one 
should never say never, I have a feeling it has gone the way of the 3.5mm 
headphone jack. Of course such good water resistance can only be achieved if 
there are fewer points where water can enter. I heard that physical SIM cards 
may also soon be a thing of the past with e-SIM taking over, then it's long 
been rumoured that at some point the iPhone won't have any more connector at 
all and if then the volume buttons and the side button are appropriately 
designed we could be looking at an iPhone which may become the scuba divers new 
underwater camera. After all, most scuba diving is done in 40 feet or less and 
a recreational diver stays down maybe 55 minutes to an hour at the most with a 
single tank so that isn't so far fetched.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.  That 
would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch ID on my S E 
2020.

How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is the 13 
mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?  That is 
amazing.

Sieghard , Thanks for your information.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder speakers I 
doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want good sound use your 
iPhone with a good headset or speaker.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Which phone has the best sound?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the 
shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will 
just not be another model with home button. As far as I 

RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-28 Thread bentleyj1952
DNA recognition in a chip implanted some where in the body probably already 
exist.  I suspect that for now, it is too expensive to implament.  Let's give 
that technology another 10 to 15 years.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 8:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Yes but if we start getting recnised with dna then it is not so far off of 
things like braine chips nad stuff like that. From Mich. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: August 28, 2022 9:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

A tech support guy from Apple told me around 2 months ago that the sim card is 
definitely on the way out in favor of E sim.  I would guess that the sim slot 
is the first place that water might enterr.

I wouldn't care if my finger print sensor is under the screen, I just prefer 
the Touch ID over face recognition.

I'm not sure how long it takes for technology to double these days but I would 
not be surprised if smart phones don't recognize users via DNA at some point in 
the future.

Take care,

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Actually the IPX rating states 6 metres for up to 30 minutes which is approx. 
20 feet.
As for Touch Id it will be one of the things of the past in my opinion. There 
have been rumours ever since Face Id was introduced in 2017 that one day there 
will be an iPhone which has Face Id and under-display Touch Id meaning your 
finger print will be read by a sensor embedded in a particular area under the 
screen, but it's not going to be part of the iPhone 14 this year and while one 
should never say never, I have a feeling it has gone the way of the 3.5mm 
headphone jack. Of course such good water resistance can only be achieved if 
there are fewer points where water can enter. I heard that physical SIM cards 
may also soon be a thing of the past with e-SIM taking over, then it's long 
been rumoured that at some point the iPhone won't have any more connector at 
all and if then the volume buttons and the side button are appropriately 
designed we could be looking at an iPhone which may become the scuba divers new 
underwater camera. After all, most scuba diving is done in 40 feet or less and 
a recreational diver stays down maybe 55 minutes to an hour at the most with a 
single tank so that isn't so far fetched.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.  That 
would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch ID on my S E 
2020.

How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is the 13 
mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?  That is 
amazing.

Sieghard , Thanks for your information.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder speakers I 
doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want good sound use your 
iPhone with a good headset or speaker.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Which phone has the best sound?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they

RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-28 Thread michv
Yes but if we start getting recnised with dna then it is not so far off of 
things like braine chips nad stuff like that. From Mich. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: August 28, 2022 9:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

A tech support guy from Apple told me around 2 months ago that the sim card is 
definitely on the way out in favor of E sim.  I would guess that the sim slot 
is the first place that water might enterr.

I wouldn't care if my finger print sensor is under the screen, I just prefer 
the Touch ID over face recognition.

I'm not sure how long it takes for technology to double these days but I would 
not be surprised if smart phones don't recognize users via DNA at some point in 
the future.

Take care,

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Actually the IPX rating states 6 metres for up to 30 minutes which is approx. 
20 feet.
As for Touch Id it will be one of the things of the past in my opinion. There 
have been rumours ever since Face Id was introduced in 2017 that one day there 
will be an iPhone which has Face Id and under-display Touch Id meaning your 
finger print will be read by a sensor embedded in a particular area under the 
screen, but it's not going to be part of the iPhone 14 this year and while one 
should never say never, I have a feeling it has gone the way of the 3.5mm 
headphone jack. Of course such good water resistance can only be achieved if 
there are fewer points where water can enter. I heard that physical SIM cards 
may also soon be a thing of the past with e-SIM taking over, then it's long 
been rumoured that at some point the iPhone won't have any more connector at 
all and if then the volume buttons and the side button are appropriately 
designed we could be looking at an iPhone which may become the scuba divers new 
underwater camera. After all, most scuba diving is done in 40 feet or less and 
a recreational diver stays down maybe 55 minutes to an hour at the most with a 
single tank so that isn't so far fetched.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.  That 
would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch ID on my S E 
2020.

How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is the 13 
mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?  That is 
amazing.

Sieghard , Thanks for your information.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder speakers I 
doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want good sound use your 
iPhone with a good headset or speaker.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Which phone has the best sound?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the 
shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will 
just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned I agree 
with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer design with 
larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but th

RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-28 Thread bentleyj1952
Ikeep my phone in my pocket for security.  Its too easy for some jerk/jerkette 
to just reach out and grab and run.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Well Sieghard needs a belt clip to hold his iPhone as he has those little 
noodle arms he can't lift it out of his pocket. LOL. 藍  
Mr. Ed
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the 
shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will 
just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned I agree 
with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer design with 
larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but then 
again I wouldn't buy either one since I hate having a phone in my pocket even 
one as small as the 13 Mini. In fact, I didn't even carry my iPhone 4S in my 
pocket and it was even smaller than that. I always wear a belt so a belt hip 
holster for me is simply the way to go. Here now those specs:

iPhone 13 mini
5.18 x 2.53 x 0.3 inches and 4.94 ounces
131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm and 140 grams
Rated IP68 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 6 metres up to 30 minutes)

iPhone SE
5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29 inches and 5.08 ounces
138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm and 144 grams
Rated IP67 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 1 metres  up to 30 minutes)


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 12:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thoughts on SE3

The phone is not small. If you want a smaller size phone, then go for the 13 
Mini like I did.  I can carry the Mini easily in any pocket.

Kelly



On 8/27/22, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> I’m very pleased with mine. I needed to upgrade as my old Se was 
> having battery issues and had resigned myself to having to have an 
> iPhone without a home button so was pleasantly surprised. The battery 
> life is certainly much better but I’ve not experimented to find out 
> just how long it does last. But when I ran Duo Lingo on my old phone, 
> within a morning I was getting a low battery message whereas I now 
> very rarely get such a message and only after heavy useage.
>
> Alison
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: 26 August 2022 18:36
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: thoughts on SE3
>
>
>
> What are people’s thoughts on the SE3  that’s the one that came out 
> this year.  Thanks.
>
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RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-28 Thread bentleyj1952
A tech support guy from Apple told me around 2 months ago that the sim card is 
definitely on the way out in favor of E sim.  I would guess that the sim slot 
is the first place that water might enterr.

I wouldn't care if my finger print sensor is under the screen, I just prefer 
the Touch ID over face recognition.

I'm not sure how long it takes for technology to double these days but I would 
not be surprised if smart phones don't recognize users via DNA at some point in 
the future.

Take care,

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Actually the IPX rating states 6 metres for up to 30 minutes which is approx. 
20 feet.
As for Touch Id it will be one of the things of the past in my opinion. There 
have been rumours ever since Face Id was introduced in 2017 that one day there 
will be an iPhone which has Face Id and under-display Touch Id meaning your 
finger print will be read by a sensor embedded in a particular area under the 
screen, but it's not going to be part of the iPhone 14 this year and while one 
should never say never, I have a feeling it has gone the way of the 3.5mm 
headphone jack. Of course such good water resistance can only be achieved if 
there are fewer points where water can enter. I heard that physical SIM cards 
may also soon be a thing of the past with e-SIM taking over, then it's long 
been rumoured that at some point the iPhone won't have any more connector at 
all and if then the volume buttons and the side button are appropriately 
designed we could be looking at an iPhone which may become the scuba divers new 
underwater camera. After all, most scuba diving is done in 40 feet or less and 
a recreational diver stays down maybe 55 minutes to an hour at the most with a 
single tank so that isn't so far fetched.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.  That 
would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch ID on my S E 
2020.

How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is the 13 
mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?  That is 
amazing.

Sieghard , Thanks for your information.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder speakers I 
doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want good sound use your 
iPhone with a good headset or speaker.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Which phone has the best sound?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the 
shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will 
just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned I agree 
with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer design with 
larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but then 
again I wouldn't buy either one since I hate having a phone in my pocket even 
one as small as the 13 Mini. In fact, I didn't even carry my iPhone 4S in my 
pocket and it was even smaller than that. I always wear a belt so a belt hip 
holster for me is simply the way to go. Here now those specs:

iPhone 13 mini
5.18

RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Not bad, Mr. Ed, but if we ever met you'd be very astonished as you'd have 
never seen such noodles!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Well Sieghard needs a belt clip to hold his iPhone as he has those little 
noodle arms he can't lift it out of his pocket. LOL. 藍
Mr. Ed
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the 
shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will 
just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned I agree 
with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer design with 
larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but then 
again I wouldn't buy either one since I hate having a phone in my pocket even 
one as small as the 13 Mini. In fact, I didn't even carry my iPhone 4S in my 
pocket and it was even smaller than that. I always wear a belt so a belt hip 
holster for me is simply the way to go. Here now those specs:

iPhone 13 mini
5.18 x 2.53 x 0.3 inches and 4.94 ounces
131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm and 140 grams
Rated IP68 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 6 metres up to 30 minutes)

iPhone SE
5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29 inches and 5.08 ounces
138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm and 144 grams
Rated IP67 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 1 metres  up to 30 minutes)


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 12:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thoughts on SE3

The phone is not small. If you want a smaller size phone, then go for the 13 
Mini like I did.  I can carry the Mini easily in any pocket.

Kelly



On 8/27/22, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> I’m very pleased with mine. I needed to upgrade as my old Se was 
> having battery issues and had resigned myself to having to have an 
> iPhone without a home button so was pleasantly surprised. The battery 
> life is certainly much better but I’ve not experimented to find out 
> just how long it does last. But when I ran Duo Lingo on my old phone, 
> within a morning I was getting a low battery message whereas I now 
> very rarely get such a message and only after heavy useage.
>
> Alison
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: 26 August 2022 18:36
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: thoughts on SE3
>
>
>
> What are people’s thoughts on the SE3  that’s the one that came out 
> this year.  Thanks.
>
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RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Actually the IPX rating states 6 metres for up to 30 minutes which is approx. 
20 feet.
As for Touch Id it will be one of the things of the past in my opinion. There 
have been rumours ever since Face Id was introduced in 2017 that one day there 
will be an iPhone which has Face Id and under-display Touch Id meaning your 
finger print will be read by a sensor embedded in a particular area under the 
screen, but it's not going to be part of the iPhone 14 this year and while one 
should never say never, I have a feeling it has gone the way of the 3.5mm 
headphone jack. Of course such good water resistance can only be achieved if 
there are fewer points where water can enter. I heard that physical SIM cards 
may also soon be a thing of the past with e-SIM taking over, then it's long 
been rumoured that at some point the iPhone won't have any more connector at 
all and if then the volume buttons and the side button are appropriately 
designed we could be looking at an iPhone which may become the scuba divers new 
underwater camera. After all, most scuba diving is done in 40 feet or less and 
a recreational diver stays down maybe 55 minutes to an hour at the most with a 
single tank so that isn't so far fetched.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.  That 
would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch ID on my S E 
2020.

How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is the 13 
mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?  That is 
amazing.

Sieghard , Thanks for your information.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder speakers I 
doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want good sound use your 
iPhone with a good headset or speaker.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Which phone has the best sound?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the 
shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will 
just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned I agree 
with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer design with 
larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but then 
again I wouldn't buy either one since I hate having a phone in my pocket even 
one as small as the 13 Mini. In fact, I didn't even carry my iPhone 4S in my 
pocket and it was even smaller than that. I always wear a belt so a belt hip 
holster for me is simply the way to go. Here now those specs:

iPhone 13 mini
5.18 x 2.53 x 0.3 inches and 4.94 ounces
131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm and 140 grams
Rated IP68 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 6 metres up to 30 minutes)

iPhone SE
5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29 inches and 5.08 ounces
138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm and 144 grams
Rated IP67 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 1 metres  up to 30 minutes)


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 12:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thoughts on SE3

The phone is not small. If you want a smaller size phone, then go for the 13 
Mini like I did.  I can carry the Mini easily in any pocket.

Kelly



On 8/27/22, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> I’m very 

RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-28 Thread Mr. Ed
Well Sieghard needs a belt clip to hold his iPhone as he has those little 
noodle arms he can't lift it out of his pocket. LOL. 藍  
Mr. Ed
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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the 
shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will 
just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned I agree 
with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer design with 
larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but then 
again I wouldn't buy either one since I hate having a phone in my pocket even 
one as small as the 13 Mini. In fact, I didn't even carry my iPhone 4S in my 
pocket and it was even smaller than that. I always wear a belt so a belt hip 
holster for me is simply the way to go. Here now those specs:

iPhone 13 mini
5.18 x 2.53 x 0.3 inches and 4.94 ounces
131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm and 140 grams
Rated IP68 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 6 metres up to 30 minutes)

iPhone SE
5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29 inches and 5.08 ounces
138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm and 144 grams
Rated IP67 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 1 metres  up to 30 minutes)


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 12:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thoughts on SE3

The phone is not small. If you want a smaller size phone, then go for the 13 
Mini like I did.  I can carry the Mini easily in any pocket.

Kelly



On 8/27/22, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> I’m very pleased with mine. I needed to upgrade as my old Se was 
> having battery issues and had resigned myself to having to have an 
> iPhone without a home button so was pleasantly surprised. The battery 
> life is certainly much better but I’ve not experimented to find out 
> just how long it does last. But when I ran Duo Lingo on my old phone, 
> within a morning I was getting a low battery message whereas I now 
> very rarely get such a message and only after heavy useage.
>
> Alison
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: 26 August 2022 18:36
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: thoughts on SE3
>
>
>
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RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-28 Thread bentleyj1952
I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.  That 
would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch ID on my S E 
2020.

How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is the 13 
mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?  That is 
amazing.

Sieghard , Thanks for your information.

James B  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder speakers I 
doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want good sound use your 
iPhone with a good headset or speaker.


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Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Which phone has the best sound?

James B  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the 
shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will 
just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned I agree 
with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer design with 
larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but then 
again I wouldn't buy either one since I hate having a phone in my pocket even 
one as small as the 13 Mini. In fact, I didn't even carry my iPhone 4S in my 
pocket and it was even smaller than that. I always wear a belt so a belt hip 
holster for me is simply the way to go. Here now those specs:

iPhone 13 mini
5.18 x 2.53 x 0.3 inches and 4.94 ounces
131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm and 140 grams
Rated IP68 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 6 metres up to 30 minutes)

iPhone SE
5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29 inches and 5.08 ounces
138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm and 144 grams
Rated IP67 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 1 metres  up to 30 minutes)


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 12:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thoughts on SE3

The phone is not small. If you want a smaller size phone, then go for the 13 
Mini like I did.  I can carry the Mini easily in any pocket.

Kelly



On 8/27/22, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> I’m very pleased with mine. I needed to upgrade as my old Se was 
> having battery issues and had resigned myself to having to have an 
> iPhone without a home button so was pleasantly surprised. The battery 
> life is certainly much better but I’ve not experimented to find out 
> just how long it does last. But when I ran Duo Lingo on my old phone, 
> within a morning I was getting a low battery message whereas I now 
> very rarely get such a message and only after heavy useage.
>
> Alison
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: 26 August 2022 18:36
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: thoughts on SE3
>
>
>
> What are people’s thoughts on the SE3  that’s the one that came out 
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RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-28 Thread Carolyn
Kelly, I want to get a mini. Is the battery good? 

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Kelly Pierce
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thoughts on SE3

The phone is not small. If you want a smaller size phone, then go for the 13 
Mini like I did.  I can carry the Mini easily in any pocket.

Kelly



On 8/27/22, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> I’m very pleased with mine. I needed to upgrade as my old Se was 
> having battery issues and had resigned myself to having to have an 
> iPhone without a home button so was pleasantly surprised. The battery 
> life is certainly much better but I’ve not experimented to find out 
> just how long it does last. But when I ran Duo Lingo on my old phone, 
> within a morning I was getting a low battery message whereas I now 
> very rarely get such a message and only after heavy useage.
>
> Alison
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: 26 August 2022 18:36
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: thoughts on SE3
>
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Re: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-28 Thread Devin Prater
Thanks y'all for all the comparion. I might be getting an SE3 soon, to replace this iPhone X R. Does the SE3 have that spatial audio thing, like the 11 and up?Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 28, 2022, at 4:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Holly, 
 
Yes, you are correct there, the first sentence that "the phone is not small" is misleading.
The rest of what he says is fine, "
If you want a smaller size phone, then go for the 13 Mini like I did.  I can carry the Mini easily in any pocket".
The fact is that if you can carry a 13 Mini in any of your pockets you could put an SE 2022 in that same pocket unless Kelly wears skinny jeans with such small pockets that the eight inch more in width and the quarter
 inch more in length really is an issue 
As I stated, the size difference is very small, but still you get a significantly larger screen on the 13 Mini and better water proofness so if I wanted a small phone the 13 Mini is what I would also buy.
 
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 
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Siegardt:
 
Yes, but Kelly's statement that the SE 3 is not a small phone is really misleading.  The SE 3 fits nicely in my pocket, and the price difference is a factor for many.

 
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RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Holly,



Yes, you are correct there, the first sentence that "the phone is not small" is 
misleading.

The rest of what he says is fine, " If you want a smaller size phone, then go 
for the 13 Mini like I did.  I can carry the Mini easily in any pocket".

The fact is that if you can carry a 13 Mini in any of your pockets you could 
put an SE 2022 in that same pocket unless Kelly wears skinny jeans with such 
small pockets that the eight inch more in width and the quarter inch more in 
length really is an issue 

As I stated, the size difference is very small, but still you get a 
significantly larger screen on the 13 Mini and better water proofness so if I 
wanted a small phone the 13 Mini is what I would also buy.





Best regards,

Sieghard



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Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Siegardt:



Yes, but Kelly's statement that the SE 3 is not a small phone is really 
misleading.  The SE 3 fits nicely in my pocket, and the price difference is a 
factor for many.



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Re: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-28 Thread Holly

Siegardt:

Yes, but Kelly's statement that the SE 3 is not a small phone is really 
misleading.  The SE 3 fits nicely in my pocket, and the price difference is 
a factor for many. 


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RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder speakers I 
doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want good sound use your 
iPhone with a good headset or speaker.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Which phone has the best sound?

James B  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the 
shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will 
just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned I agree 
with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer design with 
larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but then 
again I wouldn't buy either one since I hate having a phone in my pocket even 
one as small as the 13 Mini. In fact, I didn't even carry my iPhone 4S in my 
pocket and it was even smaller than that. I always wear a belt so a belt hip 
holster for me is simply the way to go. Here now those specs:

iPhone 13 mini
5.18 x 2.53 x 0.3 inches and 4.94 ounces
131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm and 140 grams
Rated IP68 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 6 metres up to 30 minutes)

iPhone SE
5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29 inches and 5.08 ounces
138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm and 144 grams
Rated IP67 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 1 metres  up to 30 minutes)


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 12:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thoughts on SE3

The phone is not small. If you want a smaller size phone, then go for the 13 
Mini like I did.  I can carry the Mini easily in any pocket.

Kelly



On 8/27/22, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> I’m very pleased with mine. I needed to upgrade as my old Se was 
> having battery issues and had resigned myself to having to have an 
> iPhone without a home button so was pleasantly surprised. The battery 
> life is certainly much better but I’ve not experimented to find out 
> just how long it does last. But when I ran Duo Lingo on my old phone, 
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RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-28 Thread bentleyj1952
Which phone has the best sound?

James B  

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Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the 
shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will 
just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned I agree 
with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer design with 
larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but then 
again I wouldn't buy either one since I hate having a phone in my pocket even 
one as small as the 13 Mini. In fact, I didn't even carry my iPhone 4S in my 
pocket and it was even smaller than that. I always wear a belt so a belt hip 
holster for me is simply the way to go. Here now those specs:

iPhone 13 mini
5.18 x 2.53 x 0.3 inches and 4.94 ounces
131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm and 140 grams
Rated IP68 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 6 metres up to 30 minutes)

iPhone SE
5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29 inches and 5.08 ounces
138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm and 144 grams
Rated IP67 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 1 metres  up to 30 minutes)


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 12:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thoughts on SE3

The phone is not small. If you want a smaller size phone, then go for the 13 
Mini like I did.  I can carry the Mini easily in any pocket.

Kelly



On 8/27/22, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> I’m very pleased with mine. I needed to upgrade as my old Se was 
> having battery issues and had resigned myself to having to have an 
> iPhone without a home button so was pleasantly surprised. The battery 
> life is certainly much better but I’ve not experimented to find out 
> just how long it does last. But when I ran Duo Lingo on my old phone, 
> within a morning I was getting a low battery message whereas I now 
> very rarely get such a message and only after heavy useage.
>
> Alison
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: 26 August 2022 18:36
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: thoughts on SE3
>
>
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RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello Holly,

Correct, but physically the 13 Mini is still a tiny bit smaller than the SE 
despite the larger screen. This is possible primarily because the 13 Mini 
doesn't have a home button which takes up a lot of space on the bottom.
Purely on specs the 13 Mini is less tall, less wide, less thick and it weighs 
less although thickness and weight differences are so small as to be only 
detectable with a caliper and a good scale.
The largest difference is in the height/length where the 13 Mini is a bit more 
than a quarter inch shorter.

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Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 1:13 PM
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Kelly:

Actually, the SE 3 has a display of 4.7" compared to the 13 mini which has a 
5.4 display. 

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RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the 
shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will 
just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned I agree 
with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer design with 
larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but then 
again I wouldn't buy either one since I hate having a phone in my pocket even 
one as small as the 13 Mini. In fact, I didn't even carry my iPhone 4S in my 
pocket and it was even smaller than that. I always wear a belt so a belt hip 
holster for me is simply the way to go. Here now those specs:

iPhone 13 mini
5.18 x 2.53 x 0.3 inches and 4.94 ounces
131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm and 140 grams
Rated IP68 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 6 metres up to 30 minutes)

iPhone SE
5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29 inches and 5.08 ounces
138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm and 144 grams
Rated IP67 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 1 metres  up to 30 minutes)


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 12:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thoughts on SE3

The phone is not small. If you want a smaller size phone, then go for the 13 
Mini like I did.  I can carry the Mini easily in any pocket.

Kelly



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> I’m very pleased with mine. I needed to upgrade as my old Se was 
> having battery issues and had resigned myself to having to have an 
> iPhone without a home button so was pleasantly surprised. The battery 
> life is certainly much better but I’ve not experimented to find out 
> just how long it does last. But when I ran Duo Lingo on my old phone, 
> within a morning I was getting a low battery message whereas I now 
> very rarely get such a message and only after heavy useage.
>
> Alison
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: 26 August 2022 18:36
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>
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Re: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-28 Thread Holly

Kelly:

Actually, the SE 3 has a display of 4.7" compared to the 13 mini which has a 
5.4 display. 


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Re: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-28 Thread Kelly Pierce
The phone is not small. If you want a smaller size phone, then go for
the 13 Mini like I did.  I can carry the Mini easily in any pocket.

Kelly



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> better but I’ve not experimented to find out just how long it does last. But
> when I ran Duo Lingo on my old phone, within a morning I was getting a low
> battery message whereas I now very rarely get such a message and only after
> heavy useage.
>
> Alison
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Dennis Long
> Sent: 26 August 2022 18:36
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-27 Thread CJ & AA MAY
I’m very pleased with mine. I needed to upgrade as my old Se was having battery 
issues and had resigned myself to having to have an iPhone without a home 
button so was pleasantly surprised. The battery life is certainly much better 
but I’ve not experimented to find out just how long it does last. But when I 
ran Duo Lingo on my old phone, within a morning I was getting a low battery 
message whereas I now very rarely get such a message and only after heavy 
useage.

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: 26 August 2022 18:36
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: thoughts on SE3

 

What are people’s thoughts on the SE3  that’s the one that came out this year.  
Thanks.

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RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-26 Thread Karen Poulakos
I get about 2 days.  But I’m not on my phone all the time.  We have a land 
line, so I use that for calls when at home.  I prefer to use my laptop for the 
Internet.

 

My iPhone is used for listening to an occasional podcast, reading an occasional 
book, checking weather, banking, occasionally reading a product label, etc.  We 
haven’t traveled since getting this phone, so I don’t know how much the maps 
would drain the battery.

 

Battery life is going to depend on how, and how much you use your phone.

 

Karen P

 

 

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Dennis Long
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 2:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

 

How long do you get out of a charge roughly?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
Poulakos
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 3:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

 

I’ve had mine for about a month, and am very happy with it.  I upgraded from 
the original SE.  For me, the newer phone is much more responsive, and has 
better battery life.  I find the sound quality from the speaker to be much 
better.  It took me a couple of days to get used to the feedback I was getting 
whe pressing the Home button.  It wasn’t really a problem, just a little 
different, because the button doesn’t actually press..

 

Karen P

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Dennis Long
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 12:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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What are people’s thoughts on the SE3  that’s the one that came out this year.  
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RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-26 Thread Dennis Long
How long do you get out of a charge roughly?

 

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I’ve had mine for about a month, and am very happy with it.  I upgraded from 
the original SE.  For me, the newer phone is much more responsive, and has 
better battery life.  I find the sound quality from the speaker to be much 
better.  It took me a couple of days to get used to the feedback I was getting 
whe pressing the Home button.  It wasn’t really a problem, just a little 
different, because the button doesn’t actually press..

 

Karen P

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What are people’s thoughts on the SE3  that’s the one that came out this year.  
Thanks.

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RE: thoughts on SE3

2022-08-26 Thread Karen Poulakos
I’ve had mine for about a month, and am very happy with it.  I upgraded from 
the original SE.  For me, the newer phone is much more responsive, and has 
better battery life.  I find the sound quality from the speaker to be much 
better.  It took me a couple of days to get used to the feedback I was getting 
whe pressing the Home button.  It wasn’t really a problem, just a little 
different, because the button doesn’t actually press..

 

Karen P

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Subject: thoughts on SE3

 

What are people’s thoughts on the SE3  that’s the one that came out this year.  
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thoughts on SE3

2022-08-26 Thread Dennis Long
What are people's thoughts on the SE3  that's the one that came out this
year.  Thanks.

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