Re: Playing with the camera app

[Margaret Thomas]

I'm new to the Camera app on my SE 2020 and can't get this to work.  It 
says New Quick Take Video and tap and hold the shutter to record a quick 
video and something  about dragging the shutter to the left. It also 
says 0 people.  I'm sliding my finger around the screen and not hearing 
anything about view finder.  I've pointed the lens at my refrigerator 
and my computer keyboard and sometimes it says 0 people. It keeps 
repeating 0 people the way it does when the last thing I check on the 
home screen is the charge level when I'm charging the phone.


I think I need Camera 101!

Any help continuing my iPhone education is much appreciated.

Margaret



On 7/26/2022 8:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
This is probably old news to everyone, but I just stumbled across 
something, and I’m so excited, I want to share. This is how clueless I 
am, but I was looking for a screen recording I’d just done, and not 
knowing where else to look, I brought up the camera app. While I was 
exploring the camera app, I heard it announcing things like no people, 
keyboard, … I realized it was telling me what was on my desk! After 
playing around, I found out that if you move focus to the top to the 
view finder, the camera app will read text to you and identify objects. 
I ran downstairs to show my wife, and I heard it say “cat on a flat 
surface with a laptop and a glass with a beverage”. I was pointing it at 
my kitchen table which had our cat on it, waiting to be fed, my wife’s 
laptop and her glass of sparkling water! It’s not going to replace the 
Seeing AI app for me yet, but it seemed awfully fast and accurate!


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Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Margaret Thomas]

Good Evening:

The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.


The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line 
being my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time 
and might power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I 
have Apple ID, Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app 
on the App Store.  The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass 
code when I power up.  I can usually do it correctly the first or second 
time so typing it isn't the problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead 
if possible.  I am not in a work or school situation and my house does 
not resemble Grand Central Station and I do not have a lot of personal 
information on the cell.


The original post did say locked and not powered off.  When I first got 
the cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept 
saying locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty" 
word and I never investigated what it was good for.  I turned lock to 
never.  I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to 
change that if someone could explain why it would be good when I use the 
phone so little.  I'd greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass 
code for when I needed it for other things and could use Touch ID when 
powering on.

 Thanks,

Margaret


On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500  SoonerAnnie  wrote:

Subject: Face ID hit or miss
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500
From: SoonerAnnie 
Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Hi all,
Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and 
have set up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll 
work two or three times and then will require me to use my pass code to 
unlock my phone. I am getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my 
SE 20 lol. It's much easier to just reach over and unlock it with my 
finger than to pick up my mini and hope I can get it to unlock without 
having to type in my pass code. Any suggestions would be appreciated. 
Thanks for reading.


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Margaret Thomas]

Thank you.

It's normal state is powered off and I might use it 3 times a day, but 
don't always use it every day.


When it was new and before I set locked to never, I could unlock it by 
pressing the home button.  Is locked supposed to be so the screen can't 
inadvertently be changed rather than for keeping unauthorized people 
out, or is it a sort of sleep thing where the battery isn't being used 
at 100% capacity?  If it is on and the battery is only slowly draining 
and I can press the home button and not have to do the Pass Code, it 
might be a solution.  I think locked has something to do with 
inactivity, but it is only for occasional use and is not my primary phone.


Any help is much appreciated.

Margaret

On 9/7/2022 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required when 
you turn  your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone you have 
to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and after a certain 
number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, it will then ask for 
the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone.
I don't know if  you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. iPhones 
are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut down at all. 
From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and back on if you have 
strange issues or of course there could be a time when you simply run out of 
battery and the phone turns itself off, but I literally go weeks and sometimes 
months without turning my phone off and back on and the only time I have to put 
in my passcode is when for some reason Face Id isn't working a few times one 
attempt after another (same goes for Touch Id) or for some other strange 
reason. But typically I again often go days without having to enter my passcode 
manually.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now.

When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up.  My memory 
is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the App Store 
instead of Apple ID.  I turn on the phone much more than I get apps and had 
tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes of not being 
asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had to use the pass 
code.  I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I installed a free app 
from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID but it wasn't a good 
day and my memory may not be correct.

I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with some 
mishap I had.  I just would prefer not to have to type it in every time I use 
the phone.

Margaret

On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:

If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you 
unlock it.  If not than you should be able to use touch ID.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Margaret Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Good Evening:

The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.

The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power 
it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, Touch ID, 
and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store.  The way 
things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up.  I can 
usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the 
problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible.  I am not in a work or 
school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do 
not have a lot of personal information on the cell.

The original post did say locked and not powered off.  When I first got the cell and was 
trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying locked what sounded every 
30 seconds and locked became a "dirty"
word and I never investigated what it was good for.  I turned lock to never.  
I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if 
someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little.  I'd 
greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed it for 
other things and could use Touch ID when powering on.
Thanks,

Margaret


On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500  SoonerAnnie  wrote:

Subject: Face ID hit or miss
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500
From: SoonerAnnie 
Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Hi all,
Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPho

Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Margaret Thomas]

It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now.

When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up.  My 
memory is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on 
the App
Store instead of Apple ID.  I turn on the phone much more than I get 
apps and had tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in 
hopes of not
being asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had to 
use the pass code.  I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I 
installed
a free app from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID but 
it wasn't a good day and my memory may not be correct.


I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with 
some mishap I had.  I just would prefer not to have to type it in every 
time I

use the phone.

Margaret

On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:

If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you 
unlock it.  If not than you should be able to use touch ID.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Good Evening:

The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.

The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power 
it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, Touch ID, 
and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store.  The way 
things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up.  I can 
usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the 
problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible.  I am not in a work or 
school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do 
not have a lot of personal information on the cell.

The original post did say locked and not powered off.  When I first got the cell and was 
trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying locked what sounded every 
30 seconds and locked became a "dirty"
word and I never investigated what it was good for.  I turned lock to never.  
I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if 
someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little.  I'd 
greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed it for 
other things and could use Touch ID when powering on.
   Thanks,

Margaret


On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500  SoonerAnnie  wrote:

Subject: Face ID hit or miss
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500
From: SoonerAnnie 
Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Hi all,
Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set 
up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three 
times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am 
getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much easier 
to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to pick up my mini and 
hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in my pass code. Any 
suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks for reading.

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Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Margaret Thomas]

Sieghard and All:

I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally 
disable it.


I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone 
powered off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try 
having it locked when I'm not using it to save the battery.  I thought 
powering off when it isn't being used was saving the battery.


I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I 
forget where I did it.  I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the 
word lock in the settings app.  I found one result for lock and never 
and there were several time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5 
minutes as an experiment.   It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my 
home screen is still talking.  I don't know if I missed a save button or 
if I'm misunderstanding something.  Could you please help me out and 
give the proper location and time period to choose for the way I use the 
phone?


I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen 
doesn't talk and I can press the home button and speech resumes.  It's 
been a long day and I'm confused since I don't understand your saying "I 
personally am not one of those and want my phone to lock relatively 
quickly after I use it"  since it went silent on me almost immediately.


All help is greatly appreciated.

Margaret

On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hello Margaret,

As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as backup 
for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off with 
Touch Id, only the passcode will work here.
Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into 
Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off 
Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of 
settings.

Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume if 
you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it and you 
don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id.

As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. There 
are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by pressing the 
side button, I personally am not one of those and want my phone to lock 
relatively quickly after I use it because the more it is unlocked the more 
battery is used up. But then of course I have about 80 apps on my phone and use 
it constantly for anything from checking the time and the weather to checking 
email, sending and receiving text messages to doing online banking and using a 
variety of home automation devices like smart thermostats for my home and 
business, I have video cameras and a monitored alarm system at my business and 
have apps for that and I have video doorbell and cameras at home. Even if I 
don't actively use my phone I probably am listening to an Audible book while I 
am walking to or from work, at night before I go to sleep and so on. I never 
counted how often I use my phone each day, but I guess it must be at least 1 to 
3 or 4 times an hour so over the course of a day I'd aay probably anywhere from 
40 to 60 times when I grab my phone and unlock it to do something.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 8:04 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Good Evening:

The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.

The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power 
it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, Touch ID, 
and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store.  The way 
things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up.  I can 
usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the 
problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible.  I am not in a work or 
school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do 
not have a lot of personal information on the cell.

The original post did say locked and not powered off.  When I first got the cell and was 
trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying locked what sounded every 
30 seconds and locked became a "dirty"
word and I never investigated what it was good for.  I turned lock to never.  
I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if 
someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little.  I'd 
greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed it for 
other things and could use Touch ID when powering on.
   Thanks,

Margaret


On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500  SoonerAnnie  wrote

Getting Weather Widget Back On iPhone Home Screen

[Margaret Thomas]

Good Evening, All:

I thought maybe I had reached enough of need to know on the learning 
curve for my SE 2 that I could try a little want to know or curious 
about things with the phone and had heard weather widget  stack so many 
times on my status bar that I decided to try to investigate widgets.


When I got the phone home from the Verizon store, it said   Cupertino 
and the weather there and not my town and weather in the status bar that 
was very annoying.  Several days
later, I asked my computer tech who was here for something else if he 
could turn off raise to tap and he did and my town and weather were 
magically in the status
bar instead of Cupertino when I looked at the phone when he left.  Maybe 
he changed it which was helpful, but I have no idea what he did, so I 
hadn't a clue about how to add a widget to the home screen.
Somehow, in my various phone misadventures, I inadvertently added maps 
and photos under the weather widget and had a stack.  At this stage, I 
have almost no need of either of these two and thought I could remove 
them from the stack and keep the very important weather widget.  I read 
a bunch of old posts and listened to a podcast by Thomas Domville on 
"How to add, remove, and customize widgets in iOS" on Applevis, but 
only found how to rearrange items in a stack and how to remove a stack. 
I tried removing one of the widgets I didn't want and probably didn't 
get far enough along to find a do you really want to delete this widget 
and landed on delete stack instead.


an old post VoiceOver Quiz and Answers: Rita's iDevice Advice for 
December 27, 2021
"51.  What are Widgets and how do you add them to any screen of apps on 
your iPhone?


Answer:  How to Add Widgets to Your Home Screen.  The extra widget 
options you can add to your Home screen. Adding these can range from 
fun, such as adding
featured photos, to useful, such as having the weather front and center 
for your daily planning.
Note:  These instructions were written for sighted persons, who are not 
using voiceOver.  If you are using VoiceOver:  when the instructions say 
"Tap on

an item", perform a one finger double tap.
1.  Unlock your iPhone if it is locked.
2.  Press your Home screen until the icons start to wiggle.
3.  Tap the Add button in the top left corner.
4.  Apple will suggest widgets. If your desired widget is there, tap it.
5.  If you don't see the widget you want to add, scroll down or use the 
search bar at the top of the feature.

6.  Tap Add Widget.
7.  Tap Done." in doesn't work for me.  How can a blind person tell when 
the icons start to wiggle?  I have a hearing problem and can't get the 
podcast by Thomas Domville on "How to add, remove, and customize widgets 
in iOS" on Applevis to work either.  He did something to get VO to 
announce column numbers that I missed and my Today View on 	IOS 15.6.1 
does not sound like his demonstration:


https://www.applevis.com/podcasts/how-add-remove-customize-widgets-ios


Also, I'm not clear about what size widget to choose to get all the 
extras like barometric pressure when I double tap on the widget.


My weather app is on screen 2 of my Home screen.

I'd be extremely grateful if anyone can help me get weather back 
prominently like it was before.


Margaret

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Re: Getting Weather Widget Back On iPhone Home Screen

[Margaret Thomas]

I did some more web searches and one from Hadley that the "transcript" 
was just a sample, but it gave me a hint that I tried with "VoiceOver 
Quiz and Answers: Rita's iDevice Advice for  December 27, 2021" that I 
mentioned.  I have partial success.  I once again have a weather widget, 
but, unfortunately, it's on page 2 of the home screen and not on page 1 
where it's more convenient.  I was wondering if I can manage to get it 
on page 1 if I can remove the one on page2 or should I remove the one on 
page 2 and try again to get it on page 1?


Many thanks,

Margaret


On 10/21/2022 12:38 AM, Margaret Thomas wrote:

Good Evening, All:

I thought maybe I had reached enough of need to know on the learning 
curve for my SE 2 that I could try a little want to know or curious 
about things with the phone and had heard weather widget  stack so many 
times on my status bar that I decided to try to investigate widgets.


When I got the phone home from the Verizon store, it said   Cupertino 
and the weather there and not my town and weather in the status bar that 
was very annoying.  Several days
later, I asked my computer tech who was here for something else if he 
could turn off raise to tap and he did and my town and weather were 
magically in the status
bar instead of Cupertino when I looked at the phone when he left.  Maybe 
he changed it which was helpful, but I have no idea what he did, so I 
hadn't a clue about how to add a widget to the home screen.
Somehow, in my various phone misadventures, I inadvertently added maps 
and photos under the weather widget and had a stack.  At this stage, I 
have almost no need of either of these two and thought I could remove 
them from the stack and keep the very important weather widget.  I read 
a bunch of old posts and listened to a podcast by Thomas Domville on 
"How to add, remove, and customize widgets in iOS" on Applevis, but only 
found how to rearrange items in a stack and how to remove a stack. I 
tried removing one of the widgets I didn't want and probably didn't get 
far enough along to find a do you really want to delete this widget and 
landed on delete stack instead.


an old post VoiceOver Quiz and Answers: Rita's iDevice Advice for 
December 27, 2021
"51.  What are Widgets and how do you add them to any screen of apps on 
your iPhone?


Answer:  How to Add Widgets to Your Home Screen.  The extra widget 
options you can add to your Home screen. Adding these can range from 
fun, such as adding
featured photos, to useful, such as having the weather front and center 
for your daily planning.
Note:  These instructions were written for sighted persons, who are not 
using voiceOver.  If you are using VoiceOver:  when the instructions say 
"Tap on

an item", perform a one finger double tap.
1.  Unlock your iPhone if it is locked.
2.  Press your Home screen until the icons start to wiggle.
3.  Tap the Add button in the top left corner.
4.  Apple will suggest widgets. If your desired widget is there, tap it.
5.  If you don't see the widget you want to add, scroll down or use the 
search bar at the top of the feature.

6.  Tap Add Widget.
7.  Tap Done." in doesn't work for me.  How can a blind person tell when 
the icons start to wiggle?  I have a hearing problem and can't get the 
podcast by Thomas Domville on "How to add, remove, and customize widgets 
in iOS" on Applevis to work either.  He did something to get VO to 
announce column numbers that I missed and my Today View on IOS 
15.6.1 does not sound like his demonstration:


https://www.applevis.com/podcasts/how-add-remove-customize-widgets-ios


Also, I'm not clear about what size widget to choose to get all the 
extras like barometric pressure when I double tap on the widget.


My weather app is on screen 2 of my Home screen.

I'd be extremely grateful if anyone can help me get weather back 
prominently like it was before.


Margaret



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Re: Widgets Virtual Event

[Margaret Thomas]

Sorry for the typo in my earlier message.  I meant IOS  and should know 
better than to post when I'm tired.


Margaret


On 10/22/2022 4:49 PM, Margaret Thomas wrote:

Hi, All:

Since we've been talking about iPhone widgets, I thought I'd pass along 
news of a free virtual event that I heard Mystic Access is holding about 
ISO Widgets on Thursday, October 27, (.


The e-mail I got says:

"This time we'll again be in the world of iOS as we share all about 
widgets. for those who don't use them, they're helpful productivity 
tools which can help you learn tidbits of interest to you without 
searching for and opening an app. While we won't talk about adding and 
using lock screen widgets, as we've found this a complicated endeavor, 
we will discuss what kinds of widgets are available, and how to install 
and use them to make your life and work more convenient.


This event is at 8:30 PM ET, and as with all our live events, it will be 
recorded if you can't attend live. Because it's been a while since our 
last free live event, here's the joining info for your convenience:


Join Zoom Meeting
https://mysticaccess.zoom.us/j/82573154671?pwd=Z1NwbGpSSlk2aUR1cVpEU3Jld05tUT09

Meeting ID: 825 7315 4671
Passcode: 842370
One tap mobile
+16469313860,,82573154671# US
+16465588656,,82573154671# US (New York)

Dial by your location
+1 646 931 3860 US
+1 646 558 8656 US (New York)
+1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)
+1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC)
+1 309 205 3325 US
+1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)
+1 360 209 5623 US
+1 386 347 5053 US
+1 564 217 2000 US
+1 669 444 9171 US
+1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)
+1 719 359 4580 US
+1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma)
Meeting ID: 825 7315 4671
Find your local number: https://mysticaccess.zoom.us/u/kcZYieZtLa


Margaret



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Widgets Virtual Event

[Margaret Thomas]

Hi, All:

Since we've been talking about iPhone widgets, I thought I'd pass along 
news of a free virtual event that I heard Mystic Access is holding about 
ISO Widgets on Thursday, October 27, (.


The e-mail I got says:

"This time we'll again be in the world of iOS as we share all about 
widgets. for those who don't use them, they're helpful productivity 
tools which can help you learn tidbits of interest to you without 
searching for and opening an app. While we won't talk about adding and 
using lock screen widgets, as we've found this a complicated endeavor, 
we will discuss what kinds of widgets are available, and how to install 
and use them to make your life and work more convenient.


This event is at 8:30 PM ET, and as with all our live events, it will be 
recorded if you can't attend live. Because it's been a while since our 
last free live event, here's the joining info for your convenience:


Join Zoom Meeting
https://mysticaccess.zoom.us/j/82573154671?pwd=Z1NwbGpSSlk2aUR1cVpEU3Jld05tUT09

Meeting ID: 825 7315 4671
Passcode: 842370
One tap mobile
+16469313860,,82573154671# US
+16465588656,,82573154671# US (New York)

Dial by your location
+1 646 931 3860 US
+1 646 558 8656 US (New York)
+1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)
+1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC)
+1 309 205 3325 US
+1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)
+1 360 209 5623 US
+1 386 347 5053 US
+1 564 217 2000 US
+1 669 444 9171 US
+1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)
+1 719 359 4580 US
+1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma)
Meeting ID: 825 7315 4671
Find your local number: https://mysticaccess.zoom.us/u/kcZYieZtLa


Margaret

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Widgets Live Event Postponed

[Margaret Thomas]

Hi, All:
There's an update for anyone who was interested in the free virtual 
event on widgets Mystic Access had scheduled for this Thursday night.


Apparently, both Kim and Chris got hit by a bad bug and the live event 
has had to be postponed and no date for the live event has been set.


Kim said:

"So, here's what we're going to do. Because of how our calendars are 
looking over the next couple weeks, we're going to record this event as 
soon as we're
well enough and put it up on our Free Downloads site so you can listen 
at your convenience."


Margaret

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Re: Getting Weather Widget Back On iPhone Home Screen

[Margaret Thomas]

mplete once I have done that and weather is once again in the top
left of the first page.

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Windows

*From: *Margaret Thomas <mailto:avidrea...@fastmail.com>
*Sent: *Friday, October 21, 2022 11:14 AM
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I did some more web searches and one from Hadley that the "transcript"

was just a sample, but it gave me a hint that I tried with "VoiceOver

Quiz and Answers: Rita's iDevice Advice for  December 27, 2021" that I

mentioned.  I have partial success.  I once again have a weather
widget,

but, unfortunately, it's on page 2 of the home screen and not on page 1

where it's more convenient.  I was wondering if I can manage to get it

on page 1 if I can remove the one on page2 or should I remove the
one on

page 2 and try again to get it on page 1?

Many thanks,

Margaret

On 10/21/2022 12:38 AM, Margaret Thomas wrote:

 > Good Evening, All:

 >

 > I thought maybe I had reached enough of need to know on the learning

 > curve for my SE 2 that I could try a little want to know or curious

 > about things with the phone and had heard weather widget  stack
so many

 > times on my status bar that I decided to try to investigate widgets.

 >

 > When I got the phone home from the Verizon store, it said  
Cupertino


 > and the weather there and not my town and weather in the status
bar that

 > was very annoying.  Several days

 > later, I asked my computer tech who was here for something else
if he

 > could turn off raise to tap and he did and my town and weather were

 > magically in the status

 > bar instead of Cupertino when I looked at the phone when he
left.  Maybe

 > he changed it which was helpful, but I have no idea what he did,
so I

 > hadn't a clue about how to add a widget to the home screen.

 > Somehow, in my various phone misadventures, I inadvertently added
maps

 > and photos under the weather widget and had a stack.  At this
stage, I

 > have almost no need of either of these two and thought I could
remove

 > them from the stack and keep the very important weather widget. 
I read


 > a bunch of old posts and listened to a podcast by Thomas Domville on

 > "How to add, remove, and customize widgets in iOS" on Applevis,
but only

 > found how to rearrange items in a stack and how to remove a stack. I

 > tried removing one of the widgets I didn't want and probably
didn't get

 > far enough along to find a do you really want to delete this
widget and

 > landed on delete stack instead.

 >

 > an old post VoiceOver Quiz and Answers: Rita's iDevice Advice for

 > December 27, 2021

 > "51.  What are Widgets and how do you add them to any screen of
apps on

 > your iPhone?

 >

 > Answer:  How to Add Widgets to Your Home Screen.  The extra widget

 > options you can add to your Home screen. Adding these can range from

 > fun, such as adding

 > featured photos, to useful, such as having the weather front and
center

 > for your daily planning.

 > Note:  These instructions were written for sighted persons, who
are not

 > using voiceOver.  If you are using VoiceOver:  when the
instructions say

 > "Tap on

 > an item", perform a one finger double tap.

 > 1.  Unlock your iPhone if it is locked.

 > 2.  Press your Home screen until the icons start to wiggle.

 > 3.  Tap the Add button in the top left corner.

 > 4.  Apple will suggest widgets. If your desired widget is there,
tap it.

 > 5.  If you don't see the widget you want to add, scroll down or
use the

 > search bar at the top of the feature.

 > 6.  Tap Add Widget.

 > 7.  Tap Done." in doesn't work for me.  How can a blind person
tell when

 > the icons start to wiggle?  I have a hearing problem and can't
get the

 > podcast by Thomas Domville on "How to add, remove, and customize
widgets

 > in iOS" on Applevis to work either.  He did something to get VO to

 > announce column numbers that I missed and my Today View on IOS

 > 15.6.1 does not sound like his demonstration:

 >

 >
https://www.applevis.com/podcasts/how-add-remove-customize-widgets-ios 
<https://www.applevis.com/podcasts/how-add-remove-customize-widgets-ios>

 >

 >

 > Also, I'm not clear about what size widget to choose to ge

Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Margaret Thomas]

Thank you for confirming I was in the right place.  Still no luck.  I 
had trouble with Notifications when I tried to work with them before and 
maybe that's part of the problem.


Margaret


On 9/7/2022 3:13 PM, davidmac1...@gmail.com wrote:

Open the Settings app on your iPhone.

Scroll down and double tap Display & Brightness.
In the Display and Brightness settings, double tap Auto-Lock.
Choose the amount of time you want your screen to stay on after you last touch 
your iPhone.
Hope this helps.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 3:00 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Sieghard and All:

I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally disable 
it.

I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone powered 
off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try having it locked 
when I'm not using it to save the battery.  I thought powering off when it 
isn't being used was saving the battery.

I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I forget where 
I did it.  I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the word lock in the 
settings app.  I found one result for lock and never and there were several 
time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5
minutes as an experiment.   It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my
home screen is still talking.  I don't know if I missed a save button or if I'm 
misunderstanding something.  Could you please help me out and give the proper 
location and time period to choose for the way I use the phone?

I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen doesn't talk and I 
can press the home button and speech resumes.  It's been a long day and I'm confused 
since I don't understand your saying "I personally am not one of those and want my 
phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it"  since it went silent on me almost 
immediately.

All help is greatly appreciated.

Margaret

On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hello Margaret,

As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as backup 
for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off with 
Touch Id, only the passcode will work here.
Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into 
Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off 
Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of 
settings.

Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume if 
you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it and you 
don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id.

As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. There 
are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by pressing the 
side button, I personally am not one of those and want my phone to lock 
relatively quickly after I use it because the more it is unlocked the more 
battery is used up. But then of course I have about 80 apps on my phone and use 
it constantly for anything from checking the time and the weather to checking 
email, sending and receiving text messages to doing online banking and using a 
variety of home automation devices like smart thermostats for my home and 
business, I have video cameras and a monitored alarm system at my business and 
have apps for that and I have video doorbell and cameras at home. Even if I 
don't actively use my phone I probably am listening to an Audible book while I 
am walking to or from work, at night before I go to sleep and so on. I never 
counted how often I use my phone each day, but I guess it must be at least 1 to 
3 or 4 times an hour so over the course of a day I'd aay probably anywhere from 
40 to 60 times when I grab my phone and unlock it to do something.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Margaret Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 8:04 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Good Evening:

The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.

The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power 
it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, Touch ID, 
and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store.  The way 
things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up.  I can 
usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the 
problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible.  I am not in a work or 
school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do 
not have a lot of per

Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Margaret Thomas]

Richard,

I tried 2 more times with different amounts of time and it didn't lock. 
 I think Notifications and maybe Focus is my homework assignment. 
Smile.  I was having trouble with Notifications when I tried to work 
with them before.  At least I can do a manual lock.


Margaret


On 9/7/2022 3:06 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Margaret,

Auto Lock under Display and brightness locks the phone when there is no screen 
activity.  If you touch the screen or something is running that is causing the 
screen to refresh, it won't lock.

Set it to five minutes, lay the phone down with nothing running and in five 
minutes it will lock.
I have mine set to 5 minutes because it is only there in case I forget to 
manually lock the phone when I won't be using it for a while.



Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: https://www.turner42.com
礪

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 12:00 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Sieghard and All:

I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally disable 
it.

I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone powered 
off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try having it locked 
when I'm not using it to save the battery.  I thought powering off when it 
isn't being used was saving the battery.

I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I forget where 
I did it.  I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the word lock in the 
settings app.  I found one result for lock and never and there were several 
time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5
minutes as an experiment.   It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my
home screen is still talking.  I don't know if I missed a save button or if I'm 
misunderstanding something.  Could you please help me out and give the proper 
location and time period to choose for the way I use the phone?

I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen doesn't talk and I 
can press the home button and speech resumes.  It's been a long day and I'm confused 
since I don't understand your saying "I personally am not one of those and want my 
phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it"  since it went silent on me almost 
immediately.

All help is greatly appreciated.

Margaret

On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hello Margaret,

As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as backup 
for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off with 
Touch Id, only the passcode will work here.
Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into 
Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off 
Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of 
settings.

Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume if 
you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it and you 
don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id.

As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. There 
are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by pressing the 
side button, I personally am not one of those and want my phone to lock 
relatively quickly after I use it because the more it is unlocked the more 
battery is used up. But then of course I have about 80 apps on my phone and use 
it constantly for anything from checking the time and the weather to checking 
email, sending and receiving text messages to doing online banking and using a 
variety of home automation devices like smart thermostats for my home and 
business, I have video cameras and a monitored alarm system at my business and 
have apps for that and I have video doorbell and cameras at home. Even if I 
don't actively use my phone I probably am listening to an Audible book while I 
am walking to or from work, at night before I go to sleep and so on. I never 
counted how often I use my phone each day, but I guess it must be at least 1 to 
3 or 4 times an hour so over the course of a day I'd aay probably anywhere from 
40 to 60 times when I grab my phone and unlock it to do something.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Margaret Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 8:04 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Good Evening:

The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.

The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power 
it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I 

Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Margaret Thomas]

Thanks, turning the phone completely off and back on worked with 
automatic lock and 1 minute and it is locked.


Margaret

On 9/8/2022 1:18 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

There are times my iPhone 11 doesn't seem to lock automatically, I have it set 
to 1 minute, and typically a reboot fixes this. By reboot I mean turning the 
phone off completely and back on.
I have the same issue but also very rarely when the phone doesn't start 
charging when I put it down on my charging pad and once again this usually goes 
away if I turn the phone off and back on.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:16 AM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Richard,

I tried 2 more times with different amounts of time and it didn't lock.
   I think Notifications and maybe Focus is my homework assignment.
Smile.  I was having trouble with Notifications when I tried to work with them 
before.  At least I can do a manual lock.

Margaret


On 9/7/2022 3:06 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Margaret,

Auto Lock under Display and brightness locks the phone when there is no screen 
activity.  If you touch the screen or something is running that is causing the 
screen to refresh, it won't lock.

Set it to five minutes, lay the phone down with nothing running and in five 
minutes it will lock.
I have mine set to 5 minutes because it is only there in case I forget to 
manually lock the phone when I won't be using it for a while.



Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of
thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: https://www.turner42.com
礪

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Margaret Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 12:00 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Sieghard and All:

I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally disable 
it.

I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone powered 
off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try having it locked 
when I'm not using it to save the battery.  I thought powering off when it 
isn't being used was saving the battery.

I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I forget where 
I did it.  I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the word lock in the 
settings app.  I found one result for lock and never and there were several 
time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5
minutes as an experiment.   It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my
home screen is still talking.  I don't know if I missed a save button or if I'm 
misunderstanding something.  Could you please help me out and give the proper 
location and time period to choose for the way I use the phone?

I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen doesn't talk and I 
can press the home button and speech resumes.  It's been a long day and I'm confused 
since I don't understand your saying "I personally am not one of those and want my 
phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it"  since it went silent on me almost 
immediately.

All help is greatly appreciated.

Margaret

On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hello Margaret,

As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as backup 
for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off with 
Touch Id, only the passcode will work here.
Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into 
Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off 
Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of 
settings.

Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume if 
you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it and you 
don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id.

As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. There 
are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by pressing the 
side button, I personally am not one of those and want my phone to lock 
relatively quickly after I use it because the more it is unlocked the more 
battery is used up. But then of course I have about 80 apps on my phone and use 
it constantly for anything from checking the time and the weather to checking 
email, sending and receiving text messages to doing online banking and using a 
variety of home automation devices like smart thermostats for my home and 
business, I have video cameras and a monitored alarm system at my business and 
have apps for that and I have video doorbell and cameras at home. Even if I 
don't actively use my phone I probably am listening to an Audible book while I 
am walking to or from work, at night before I go to sleep and so on. I never 
counted how often I use my p

Containers And iPhone Weather App

[Margaret Thomas]

Hi, All:

I can get Siri to give me the barometric pressure by verbally asking, 
but doesn't say if the pressure is rising or falling.  I've been looking 
for something with a little more pressure information and someone 
suggested Dark Sky, but I understand it will be going away in 2023.  I 
found an old post from Richard which mentions pressure and some other 
items like moon phase that I'm interested in being on the native weather 
app.


Apparently having containers on the rotor allows more information to be 
heard on the screen than I'm getting.  Containers were new to me and I 
sort of understand them now,but I'm not finding them on the rotor for 
the screen that lists some of today's weather 10 day forecast etc. 
I've got Characters; Words; Headings and Speaking Rate on the rotor


Could someone please tell me how to add containers to the rotor so I can 
get this additional weather information.


I'm running IOS 15.6.1 on an iPhone SE 2020.

I'd be very grateful for any help.

Margaret

On 10/8/2021 5:20 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Kay,
When I use containers in the native weather app, it jumps from the current 
conditions, to Today's forecast as in Partly cloudy conditions from 4 pm-6pm 
with sunny conditions expected at 6pm.
The next flick down gets me "now, partly cloudy 58 degrees."
The next flick down gets to the ten day forecast.  Next is air quality, 
Temperature, UV index, sunset, Wind, rainfall, feels like, humidity, visibility 
Pressure, Then it seems to circle back to the 10 day forecast.

 From the point where it says Now, partly cloudy 58 degrees, if I right flick, 
then I get the hours through tomorrow and I then bump into the 10 day forecast.

If I right flick from the 10 day forecast, I get each day's forecast, Today, 
Saturday, Sunday, etc.
  
I think that is everything that is on the screen.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 1:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weather.

By Apple weather, do you mean the native weather app?  In the native weather
app, when you go to containers, it takes you to hourly information and then
to updates.  Unfortunately, it skips the daily forecast.  This is
interesting though and I will keep trying containers to see what it might do
to make navigation easier.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

- Original Message -
From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2021 3:29 PM
Subject: RE: Weather.


That should help. I just about make D on rotor, but I'll see what I can do,
thanks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ed Worrell
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 4:19 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Weather.

Containers are groups of information that you can jump between with the
rotor feature. These are kind of like regions with in an application. You
also see containers or landmarks on websites: such as navigation menus, main
page content, or footer content.

In the Apple Weather app you have: current weather, hourly weather and 10
day forecast. You can add the container option to your rotor. When you
switch the containers option you can flick down to move down the application
via containers and once you get to the container you want to explore, now
you can flick right to read the content in the container. You can also flick
up to view containers above your current reading position.

I hope this helps,
Ed



On Oct 4, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

What are Containers? How are they used?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ed Worrell
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 10:27 AM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Weather.

In the default weather app on the iPhone you do not have to navigate it
line by line. If you have the containers option in your rotor you can jump
between the sections such as current conditions, hourly, daily forecast
and even jump down to the bottom of the app to read amount of rain, temp
details, sun and moon phases, etc.

I hope this helps,

Ed



On Sep 24, 2021, at 4:37 PM, Richard Turner 
wrote:

That's it.
It resets them to their default.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
it." -- Jane Wagner





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On Sep 24, 

Re: Containers And iPhone Weather App

[Margaret Thomas]

Thank you.

I asked Siri to open weather and what it opened was very much if not 
totally like what I've been double tapping on the status bar to get 
weather.  I got more of the "extra" weather items like pressure using 
that screen today than yesterday, but still no phase of the moon.


One thing that I heard that I don't remember hearing before was 
something like scroll left to get to today view.  I have to look up 
scroll left, but maybe if I can get there it will help enlighten me 
about what today view might be.


I'll have another try at adding containers to the rotor after a break.

I couldn't find an icon that said weather when I first got the phone and 
only had 1 home screen and thought it was a very important app not to be 
there.  I'll have another try after some tea just in case I've missed it.



A change in what the status bar originally said and a change on another 
part of the phone I asked someone to make may be part of the cause of my 
weather app problem. When I got the phone home from the Verizon store, 
it said   Cupertino and not my town in the status bar that was very 
annoying.  Several days later, I asked my computer tech who was here for 
something else if he could turn off raise to tap and he did and my town 
and weather were in the status bar instead of Cupertino when I looked at 
the phone when he left.  Maybe he changed it which was helpful, but I 
have no idea what he did and if it had anything to do with the "missing" 
weather icon.  I kept hearing weather in the status bar with widget 
stack and my town and got more weather when I finally got brave and 
double tapped on it.


I haven't knowingly created any folders and use them on my computer but 
pretty much know little about them on the phone.


This is my backup phone that was intended for hurricanes and Nor'easters 
when my land line is down and my land line is my primary phone.  The guy 
at the Verizon store claimed that he was unable to transfer my contacts 
from my Haven 3G flip phone to the SE 2020 and reconstructing them was 
job #1.  I'm not learning new things nearly as well as I did even five 
years ago and I suspect that my phone life would have been much easier 
if I had been able to get it at an Apple store, but there was none close 
to me.  I greatly appreciate everyone's help and patience.


Margaret




On 10/10/2022 8:42 AM, Barbara Stahl wrote:

Yes weather is an app if you're not seeing it on your main home screen it must 
be on another page or maybe inside of a folder you can either scroll through 
all of the icons on your pages and do you find it or you can tell Siri to open 
Weather and it'll open the app for you


On Oct 9, 2022, at 5:17 PM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:

Hi, All:

Thank you all for your help, but I am missing something.  Finding the "extra" weather 
like pressure without using containers seems to be a bit hit or miss.  I got a good number of them 
a couple days ago, but am only finding 1 or 2  today using Barbara's instructions:  "You just 
slide your finger down the screen til you hear the weather announced by days rather than hours. 
Scroll through this and then you will reach all the extra information like uv index, wind speed 
pressure visibility and so on."

I thought I would have better luck if I could add containers to the rotor but am not having 
any luck with either Barbara's instructions "You add containers to the roder by going to 
settings, accessibility, then roder, then select containers." or Marda's below: "In 
order to put items in the rotor you have to go to

settings, then voiceover, then rotor."


I've never found an icon on the home screen for weather like there is for 
settings, health, etc. and begin by double tapping onWeather Widget Stack? my 
City and temperature to the right of some Verizon information on the status 
bar.   I don't know what a widget is and thought weather was an app

Lately, instead of saying Weather widget etc. the status bar sometimes says 
Notes widget and other times photos widget other times.  I was trying to work 
with notes the other day and may have accidentally messed something up.  I 
don't think I have even accidentally taken a photograph.  I want weather front 
and center and I don't want notes or photos the focus of attention.

In trying to find out what a widget is, I found some posts that referred to 
today view.  I know there can be multiple home screens and, right now, I seem 
to have 3, but today view is completely new for me.  Please, can someone 
enlighten me?


I'm running IOS 15.6.1 on an SE 2020.
Any help is greatly appreciated.

Margaret


On 10/5/2022 7:07 PM, Marda wrote:
Hi Margaret.  In order to put items in the rotor you have to go to settings, 
then voiceover, then rotor.  if you're swiping through settings you have to go 
through eight or nine of them before you get to rotor.  Then you have to select 
the things you want in the rotor.  I have conta

Re: Containers And iPhone Weather App

[Margaret Thomas]

I found a podcast by Thomas Domville called "How to Check Weather 
Information with Siri in iOS" on Applevis that I'll listen to later. 
The item is listed at:


https://www.applevis.com/new-to-ios?type=All=1


I found the "missing" actual native weather app apparently clearly 
labeled Weather on the second page of my Home Screen.  How I missed it 
for all this time is a mystery!!!  I was so focused on all the stuff 
needed to learn how to get my contacts in that I didn't pay attention to 
apps.  And there was this thing that clearly said Weather right on the 
status bar.


I think I found my way to Today View and I found another podcast by 
Thomas Domville on "How to add, remove, and customize widgets in iOS" on 
Applevis listed at


https://www.applevis.com/new-to-ios?type=All=1

that I'll add to my to do list.

Adding containers to the rotor will be for another day.

Margaret


On 10/10/2022 12:16 PM, Carolyn wrote:

I haven't gotten moon phase, but after a few days after full moon, I ask Siri 
when is the next full moon.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Margaret Thomas
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2022 11:58 AM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Containers And iPhone Weather App

Thank you.

I asked Siri to open weather and what it opened was very much if not
totally like what I've been double tapping on the status bar to get
weather.  I got more of the "extra" weather items like pressure using
that screen today than yesterday, but still no phase of the moon.

One thing that I heard that I don't remember hearing before was
something like scroll left to get to today view.  I have to look up
scroll left, but maybe if I can get there it will help enlighten me
about what today view might be.

I'll have another try at adding containers to the rotor after a break.

I couldn't find an icon that said weather when I first got the phone and
only had 1 home screen and thought it was a very important app not to be
there.  I'll have another try after some tea just in case I've missed it.


A change in what the status bar originally said and a change on another
part of the phone I asked someone to make may be part of the cause of my
weather app problem. When I got the phone home from the Verizon store,
it said   Cupertino and not my town in the status bar that was very
annoying.  Several days later, I asked my computer tech who was here for
something else if he could turn off raise to tap and he did and my town
and weather were in the status bar instead of Cupertino when I looked at
the phone when he left.  Maybe he changed it which was helpful, but I
have no idea what he did and if it had anything to do with the "missing"
weather icon.  I kept hearing weather in the status bar with widget
stack and my town and got more weather when I finally got brave and
double tapped on it.

I haven't knowingly created any folders and use them on my computer but
pretty much know little about them on the phone.

This is my backup phone that was intended for hurricanes and Nor'easters
when my land line is down and my land line is my primary phone.  The guy
at the Verizon store claimed that he was unable to transfer my contacts
from my Haven 3G flip phone to the SE 2020 and reconstructing them was
job #1.  I'm not learning new things nearly as well as I did even five
years ago and I suspect that my phone life would have been much easier
if I had been able to get it at an Apple store, but there was none close
to me.  I greatly appreciate everyone's help and patience.

Margaret




On 10/10/2022 8:42 AM, Barbara Stahl wrote:

Yes weather is an app if you're not seeing it on your main home screen it must 
be on another page or maybe inside of a folder you can either scroll through 
all of the icons on your pages and do you find it or you can tell Siri to open 
Weather and it'll open the app for you


On Oct 9, 2022, at 5:17 PM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:

Hi, All:

Thank you all for your help, but I am missing something.  Finding the "extra" weather 
like pressure without using containers seems to be a bit hit or miss.  I got a good number of them 
a couple days ago, but am only finding 1 or 2  today using Barbara's instructions:  "You just 
slide your finger down the screen til you hear the weather announced by days rather than hours. 
Scroll through this and then you will reach all the extra information like uv index, wind speed 
pressure visibility and so on."

I thought I would have better luck if I could add containers to the rotor but am not having 
any luck with either Barbara's instructions "You add containers to the roder by going to 
settings, accessibility, then roder, then select containers." or Marda's below: "In 
order to put items in the rotor you have to go to

settings, then voiceover, then rotor."


I've never found an icon on the home screen for weather like t

Re: Containers And iPhone Weather App

[Margaret Thomas]

Hi, All:

Good news is that I got containers added to the rotor.  What worked for 
me was:

settings, accessibility, voice over, then rotor, then select containers

The middling news is that I still can't hear moon phase in the bunch of 
"extras" like pressure in either the native weather app or weather as a 
widget.  Siri does give it when verbally asked, so that is something. 
The "extras" give rising or falling for the pressure and that was a good 
portion of my original question  .  They include just about everything I 
normally want to know about local weather except for moon phase, so I'm 
good.


Thank you all,

Margaret


On 10/10/2022 4:01 PM, Margaret Thomas wrote:
I found a podcast by Thomas Domville called "How to Check Weather 
Information with Siri in iOS" on Applevis that I'll listen to later. The 
item is listed at:


https://www.applevis.com/new-to-ios?type=All=1


I found the "missing" actual native weather app apparently clearly 
labeled Weather on the second page of my Home Screen.  How I missed it 
for all this time is a mystery!!!  I was so focused on all the stuff 
needed to learn how to get my contacts in that I didn't pay attention to 
apps.  And there was this thing that clearly said Weather right on the 
status bar.


I think I found my way to Today View and I found another podcast by 
Thomas Domville on "How to add, remove, and customize widgets in iOS" on 
Applevis listed at


https://www.applevis.com/new-to-ios?type=All=1

that I'll add to my to do list.

Adding containers to the rotor will be for another day.

Margaret


On 10/10/2022 12:16 PM, Carolyn wrote:
I haven't gotten moon phase, but after a few days after full moon, I 
ask Siri when is the next full moon.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Margaret Thomas

Sent: Monday, October 10, 2022 11:58 AM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Containers And iPhone Weather App

Thank you.

I asked Siri to open weather and what it opened was very much if not
totally like what I've been double tapping on the status bar to get
weather.  I got more of the "extra" weather items like pressure using
that screen today than yesterday, but still no phase of the moon.

One thing that I heard that I don't remember hearing before was
something like scroll left to get to today view.  I have to look up
scroll left, but maybe if I can get there it will help enlighten me
about what today view might be.

I'll have another try at adding containers to the rotor after a break.

I couldn't find an icon that said weather when I first got the phone and
only had 1 home screen and thought it was a very important app not to be
there.  I'll have another try after some tea just in case I've missed it.


A change in what the status bar originally said and a change on another
part of the phone I asked someone to make may be part of the cause of my
weather app problem. When I got the phone home from the Verizon store,
it said   Cupertino and not my town in the status bar that was very
annoying.  Several days later, I asked my computer tech who was here for
something else if he could turn off raise to tap and he did and my town
and weather were in the status bar instead of Cupertino when I looked at
the phone when he left.  Maybe he changed it which was helpful, but I
have no idea what he did and if it had anything to do with the "missing"
weather icon.  I kept hearing weather in the status bar with widget
stack and my town and got more weather when I finally got brave and
double tapped on it.

I haven't knowingly created any folders and use them on my computer but
pretty much know little about them on the phone.

This is my backup phone that was intended for hurricanes and Nor'easters
when my land line is down and my land line is my primary phone.  The guy
at the Verizon store claimed that he was unable to transfer my contacts
from my Haven 3G flip phone to the SE 2020 and reconstructing them was
job #1.  I'm not learning new things nearly as well as I did even five
years ago and I suspect that my phone life would have been much easier
if I had been able to get it at an Apple store, but there was none close
to me.  I greatly appreciate everyone's help and patience.

Margaret




On 10/10/2022 8:42 AM, Barbara Stahl wrote:
Yes weather is an app if you're not seeing it on your main home 
screen it must be on another page or maybe inside of a folder you can 
either scroll through all of the icons on your pages and do you find 
it or you can tell Siri to open Weather and it'll open the app for you


On Oct 9, 2022, at 5:17 PM, Margaret Thomas 
 wrote:


Hi, All:

Thank you all for your help, but I am missing something.  Finding 
the "extra" weather like pressure without using containers seems to 
be a bit hit or miss.  I got a good number of them a couple days 
ago, but am only finding 1 or 2  today using Bar

Re: Containers And iPhone Weather App

[Margaret Thomas]

Hi, All:

Thank you all for your help, but I am missing something.  Finding the 
"extra" weather like pressure without using containers seems to be a bit 
hit or miss.  I got a good number of them a couple days ago, but am only 
finding 1 or 2  today using Barbara's instructions:  "You just slide 
your finger down the screen til you hear the weather announced by days 
rather than hours. Scroll through this and then you will reach all the 
extra information like uv index, wind speed pressure visibility and so on."


I thought I would have better luck if I could add containers to the 
rotor but am not having any luck with either Barbara's instructions "You 
add containers to the roder by going to settings, accessibility, then 
roder, then select containers." or Marda's below: "In order to put items 
in the rotor you have to go to

> settings, then voiceover, then rotor."

I've never found an icon on the home screen for weather like there is 
for settings, health, etc. and begin by double tapping onWeather Widget 
Stack? my City and temperature to the right of some Verizon information 
on the status bar.   I don't know what a widget is and thought weather 
was an app


Lately, instead of saying Weather widget etc. the status bar sometimes 
says Notes widget and other times photos widget other times.  I was 
trying to work with notes the other day and may have accidentally messed 
something up.  I don't think I have even accidentally taken a 
photograph.  I want weather front and center and I don't want notes or 
photos the focus of attention.


In trying to find out what a widget is, I found some posts that referred 
to today view.  I know there can be multiple home screens and, right 
now, I seem to have 3, but today view is completely new for me.  Please, 
can someone enlighten me?



I'm running IOS 15.6.1 on an SE 2020.
Any help is greatly appreciated.

Margaret

On 10/5/2022 7:07 PM, Marda wrote:
Hi Margaret.  In order to put items in the rotor you have to go to 
settings, then voiceover, then rotor.  if you're swiping through 
settings you have to go through eight or nine of them before you get to 
rotor.  Then you have to select the things you want in the rotor.  I 
have containers in my rotor too but when I went to the rotor settings I 
didn't find that setting.  So I don't know if they still have it or 
not.  I don't know anything about containers so can't help with that. If 
you do find that setting and put it in the rotor and don't like where it 
is you can reorder items in the rotor to put the most important things 
first.  There are a whole bunch of things you can put in the rotor, 
maybe thirty or forty of them but it's probably best not to clutter the 
rotor up with too many things like you wouldn't want to have too many 
things on your desktop in your pc if you have one.  hth


Marda


On 10/5/2022 4:01 PM, Margaret Thomas wrote:

Hi, All:

I can get Siri to give me the barometric pressure by verbally asking, 
but doesn't say if the pressure is rising or falling. I've been 
looking for something with a little more pressure information and 
someone suggested Dark Sky, but I understand it will be going away in 
2023.  I found an old post from Richard which mentions pressure and 
some other items like moon phase that I'm interested in being on the 
native weather app.


Apparently having containers on the rotor allows more information to 
be heard on the screen than I'm getting.  Containers were new to me 
and I sort of understand them now,but I'm not finding them on the 
rotor for the screen that lists some of today's weather 10 day 
forecast etc. I've got Characters; Words; Headings and Speaking Rate 
on the rotor


Could someone please tell me how to add containers to the rotor so I 
can get this additional weather information.


I'm running IOS 15.6.1 on an iPhone SE 2020.

I'd be very grateful for any help.

Margaret

On 10/8/2021 5:20 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Kay,
When I use containers in the native weather app, it jumps from the 
current conditions, to Today's forecast as in Partly cloudy 
conditions from 4 pm-6pm with sunny conditions expected at 6pm.

The next flick down gets me "now, partly cloudy 58 degrees."
The next flick down gets to the ten day forecast.  Next is air 
quality, Temperature, UV index, sunset, Wind, rainfall, feels like, 
humidity, visibility Pressure, Then it seems to circle back to the 10 
day forecast.


 From the point where it says Now, partly cloudy 58 degrees, if I 
right flick, then I get the hours through tomorrow and I then bump 
into the 10 day forecast.


If I right flick from the 10 day forecast, I get each day's forecast, 
Today, Saturday, Sunday, etc.

  I think that is everything that is on the screen.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
with it." - Jane Wagner


My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viph

Re: Playing with the camera app

[Margaret Thomas]

I initially still had no luck.  I slid my finger around the screen and 
only heard the thing about quick video	; Drag the shutter to the left 
for something that sounds like burst; and 0 people.  There is no focus 
or view finder.
 There was a continue button that I finally found and double tapped on 
and then I could follow your instructions.


It was interesting and needs some work.  It liked to call things musical 
instrument and there isn't a musical instrument in the house.  It got 
some things right.


A friend came when I was going around downstairs with it and I finally 
got it to say face.


How do you get it to shut up?  I tried the magic tap and that didn't 
work.  I was hurrying to be able to pay attention to my friend and lost 
speech, but was able to get it back.


Thanks,

Margaret


On 7/30/2022 4:45 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
Try to focus on the upper left portion of the screen and you should find 
the view finder.
Double tap on it and then do not touch the screen again until you wan to 
change something and just point the camera around at things and wait a 
few seconds for it to say something.

HTH,





Richard
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of 
little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John 
Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com


On Jul 30, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Margaret Thomas 
 wrote:


I'm new to the Camera app on my SE 2020 and can't get this to work. 
 It says New Quick Take Video and tap and hold the shutter to record a 
quick video and something  about dragging the shutter to the left. It 
also says 0 people.  I'm sliding my finger around the screen and not 
hearing anything about view finder.  I've pointed the lens at my 
refrigerator and my computer keyboard and sometimes it says 0 people. 
It keeps repeating 0 people the way it does when the last thing I 
check on the home screen is the charge level when I'm charging the phone.


I think I need Camera 101!

Any help continuing my iPhone education is much appreciated.

Margaret



On 7/26/2022 8:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
This is probably old news to everyone, but I just stumbled across 
something, and I’m so excited, I want to share. This is how clueless 
I am, but I was looking for a screen recording I’d just done, and not 
knowing where else to look, I brought up the camera app. While I was 
exploring the camera app, I heard it announcing things like no 
people, keyboard, … I realized it was telling me what was on my desk! 
After playing around, I found out that if you move focus to the top 
to the view finder, the camera app will read text to you and identify 
objects. I ran downstairs to show my wife, and I heard it say “cat on 
a flat surface with a laptop and a glass with a beverage”. I was 
pointing it at my kitchen table which had our cat on it, waiting to 
be fed, my wife’s laptop and her glass of sparkling water! It’s not 
going to replace the Seeing AI app for me yet, but it seemed awfully 
fast and accurate!

--
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Chaltain at Outlook
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Re: Playing with the camera app

[Margaret Thomas]

Yes, this is my first time with the camera app itself.

I tried the Seeing AI app for the first time the other day when I had a 
bill that Open Book did not read well and I thought might be mainly 
handwritten.  I was able to get the total amount of the bill from it, 
but only got 1 column out of 5 that a friend said were there after my 
initial attempt.  I'm going to work more with Seeing AI and it could 
well just be my inexperience that didn't give me more of the bill.


Do you have any idea what the drag the shutter to the left for (word I 
couldn't make out) might be about?


Thanks for telling me how to shut it up.

Margaret


On 7/31/2022 4:11 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

Hmm, sounds like it might have been the first time you used the camera app and 
you had to get past some initial screens, like tips and such.

To shut it up I usually just move focus off the view finder, but it'll still 
let you know if there's a person in the camera view or not. To shut it up for 
good, I just close the camera app in the App Switcher.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

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Subject: Re: Playing with the camera app

I initially still had no luck.  I slid my finger around the screen and
only heard the thing about quick video  ; Drag the shutter to the left
for something that sounds like burst; and 0 people.  There is no focus or view 
finder.
   There was a continue button that I finally found and double tapped on and 
then I could follow your instructions.

It was interesting and needs some work.  It liked to call things musical 
instrument and there isn't a musical instrument in the house.  It got some 
things right.

A friend came when I was going around downstairs with it and I finally got it 
to say face.

How do you get it to shut up?  I tried the magic tap and that didn't work.  I 
was hurrying to be able to pay attention to my friend and lost speech, but was 
able to get it back.

Thanks,

Margaret


On 7/30/2022 4:45 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Try to focus on the upper left portion of the screen and you should
find the view finder.
Double tap on it and then do not touch the screen again until you wan
to change something and just point the camera around at things and
wait a few seconds for it to say something.
HTH,





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On Jul 30, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Margaret Thomas
 wrote:

I'm new to the Camera app on my SE 2020 and can't get this to work.
  It says New Quick Take Video and tap and hold the shutter to record
a quick video and something  about dragging the shutter to the left.
It also says 0 people.  I'm sliding my finger around the screen and
not hearing anything about view finder.  I've pointed the lens at my
refrigerator and my computer keyboard and sometimes it says 0 people.
It keeps repeating 0 people the way it does when the last thing I
check on the home screen is the charge level when I'm charging the phone.

I think I need Camera 101!

Any help continuing my iPhone education is much appreciated.

Margaret



On 7/26/2022 8:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

This is probably old news to everyone, but I just stumbled across
something, and I’m so excited, I want to share. This is how clueless
I am, but I was looking for a screen recording I’d just done, and
not knowing where else to look, I brought up the camera app. While I
was exploring the camera app, I heard it announcing things like no
people, keyboard, … I realized it was telling me what was on my desk!
After playing around, I found out that if you move focus to the top
to the view finder, the camera app will read text to you and
identify objects. I ran downstairs to show my wife, and I heard it
say “cat on a flat surface with a laptop and a glass with a
beverage”. I was pointing it at my kitchen table which had our cat
on it, waiting to be fed, my wife’s laptop and her glass of
sparkling water! It’s not going to replace the Seeing AI app for me
yet, but it seemed awfully fast and accurate!
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Re: HOw to delete more than one at a time?

[Margaret Thomas]

Chris,

I had also been wondering how to do this, but am running into a problem. 
 I double tapped on delete and double tapped on the this will delete 2 
messages, which was what I wanted, but it only deleted the first one.


I'm not in a standard situation since I don't get a lot of texts and I 
text myself to practice and Verizon seems to call them iMessages or 
iCloud messages and I don't know if that is making a difference.  When I 
tried, I had 2 messages I sent myself to myself and one from Verizon and 
I wanted to delete the 2 I sent myself.  There was no cancel button 
after I double tapped on the second do you really want to button.


Thank you,

Margaret


I'm running IOS 16.1.2 on an iPhone SE 2.

On 12/30/2022 7:28 AM, Chris Chaffin wrote:


Here you go.

1, Open messages to the conversation screen.
2, On one of the messages you want to delete, flick up and double tap 
more.  This will select that message and put you in select mode.
3, Just swipe through your messages in the conversation and double tap 
the messages you want to delete.  It will select each of the messages 
you double tap.
4, Once all the messages are selected that you want to delete, go to the 
bottom of the screen and you will find a delete button.
5, After they have been deleted, you might have to hit the cancel button 
at the top to exit select mode.


Hope this helps.

Chris


On Dec 30, 2022, at 3:34 AM, Kay Malmquist  
wrote:



Hi all,
Back in the day, when using messages you could delete more than one 
message in a conversation at a time.  Lets say there are twenty 
messages and I only want to keep two.  How do I select and delete the 
messages I don't want in that conversation?  I can not figure out how 
to select more than one at a time, and that is going to take forever 
to do.  Thanks for any help.


Kay Malmquist
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Re: Mentions and Group Conversations on iPhone

[Margaret Thomas]

I think I did what Malcolm suggests this morning when I did what Mike 
suggested.  Anyway, it is off now.  I've turned everything off that 
folks have said to turn off and still get some form of the word mentions 
when I'm working in the messages app and I just looked again and it is 
in my rotor along with characters, words, misspelled words etc. and I 
can't deselect it from the rotor the way I normally do since it isn't 
listed as a choice.


I just turned the phone off and back on again and started composing a 
text to myself and there were other texts from me to me on the screen. 
I swiped right to get to text field and it said the usual text field 
double tap to edit and that darned form of the word mentions.  I don't 
know why I have it in the rotor and no one else does.  I'll try a search 
like Mike B. did after a long break.


Thanks for your patience.  Any more suggestions would be greatly 
appreciated.


Margaret




On 1/2/2023 9:18 AM, Jennie Facer wrote:
I am not quite sure who said that mentions is in the rotor, but there is 
no such animal. Do what Malcolm suggests.


Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

On Jan 2, 2023, at 6:52 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
wrote:


Hello,


Not sure whether this will address your issue but try the following.

Go into Settings and Messages.

Navigate to the heading Mentions.

In here is a Notify Me button.  Deselect this.  The explanation reads: 
 When this is on, you will be notified when your name is mentioned 
even if conversations are muted.




Malcolm Parfitt


On 2 Jan 2023, at 13:43, Mike B.  wrote:


Good morning Margaret,
I don't have Mentions on my rotor and I don't have it in 
Accessibility / Voiceover / Rotor either.  I don't have a clude as 
where or how you would remove it from the rotor.  I tried doing a 
couple of searches for removing the Mentions option from the rotor 
and only got some Youtube links, which I didn't listen to since 
they're usually done, for and by, sighted folks.

Hopefully another list member can help us both out with an answer>
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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*Subject:* Re: Mentions and Group Conversations on iPhone

Hi, Mike:

The first part went fine, but I'm not finding mentions in settings,
accessibility, VoiceOver, rotor to delete mentions from the rotor.  Is
it somewhere else or am I not awake enough or...?

Thanks,

Margaret



On 1/1/2023 11:19 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> Hi Margaret,
> Yes, turn group conversationing off.
> Yes, turn shared with you off. This has something to do with conten
> that is shared with you will also be shared with certain apps, 
whatever

> the hell that means!
> Yes, you can remove mentions from the rotor.
> Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
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<mailto:avidrea...@fastmail.com>>
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> *Subject:* Mentions and Group Conversations on iPhone
>
> Good Afternoon, All:
>
> I'm hoping someone can help me tame a couple things in the iPhone
> messages app that have been annoying me.
>
> When I finish composing or sending a message, I often hear mention or
> mentions or mentioned and one of these is in my rotor. My search so far
> shows that this seems to have something to do with group conversations
> and if I am mentioned. I do not participate in any group conversations.
> Running IOS 16.1.2, In settings: messages; mentions notify me is off.
> Group conversationing is on. Am I correct that I want to turn it off?
> Share name and photo is off;share it with you is on and I think I'm not
> thrilled about it. Could someone explain this better?
>
> One article I found says that Keep in mind that the notify me 
setting as

> off "will only be useful if you’ve already muted the group
> conversation." I'm not getting a lot of messages from someone or many
> unwanted message, so, at this point, don't see the need to mute.
>
> To slim down the rotor, can I remove the mentions item?
>
> Any help is much appreciated,
>
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Mentions and Group Conversations on iPhone

[Margaret Thomas]

Good Afternoon, All:

I'm hoping someone can help me tame  a couple things in the iPhone 
messages app that have been annoying me.


When I finish composing or sending a message, I often hear mention or 
mentions or mentioned and one of these is in my rotor.  My search so far 
shows that this seems to have something to do with group conversations 
and if I am mentioned.  I do not participate in any group conversations. 
 Running IOS 16.1.2, In settings: messages; mentions notify me is off. 
Group conversationing is on.  Am I correct that I want to turn it off? 
Share name and photo is off;share it with you is on and I think I'm not 
thrilled about it.  Could someone explain this better?


One article I found says that Keep in mind that the notify me setting as 
off "will only be useful if you’ve already muted the group 
conversation."  I'm not getting a lot of messages from someone or many 
unwanted message, so, at this point,  don't see the need to mute.


To slim down the rotor, can I remove the mentions item?

Any help is much appreciated,

Margaret

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Re: Mentions and Group Conversations on iPhone

[Margaret Thomas]

Hi, Mike:

The first part went fine, but I'm not finding mentions in settings, 
accessibility, VoiceOver, rotor to delete mentions from the rotor.  Is 
it somewhere else or am I not awake enough or...?


Thanks,

Margaret



On 1/1/2023 11:19 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Margaret,
Yes, turn group conversationing off.
Yes, turn shared with you off.  This has something to do with conten 
that is shared with you will also be shared with certain apps, whatever 
the hell that means!

Yes, you can remove mentions from the rotor.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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*Subject:* Mentions and Group Conversations on iPhone

Good Afternoon, All:

I'm hoping someone can help me tame  a couple things in the iPhone
messages app that have been annoying me.

When I finish composing or sending a message, I often hear mention or
mentions or mentioned and one of these is in my rotor.  My search so far
shows that this seems to have something to do with group conversations
and if I am mentioned.  I do not participate in any group conversations.
   Running IOS 16.1.2, In settings: messages; mentions notify me is off.
Group conversationing is on.  Am I correct that I want to turn it off?
Share name and photo is off;share it with you is on and I think I'm not
thrilled about it. Could someone explain this better?

One article I found says that Keep in mind that the notify me setting as
off "will only be useful if you’ve already muted the group
conversation."  I'm not getting a lot of messages from someone or many
unwanted message, so, at this point, don't see the need to mute.

To slim down the rotor, can I remove the mentions item?

Any help is much appreciated,

Margaret

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Spoken RX Station Questions

[Margaret Thomas]

Hi, All:

The recent thread about the CBS Spoken RX reminded me that I ran into a 
stumbling block with  my station some time back.


I got it to spell, but I can't get it to spell anything but my name. 
Also, I can't get it out of spell mode.  I took out the batteries and 
put them in again after a couple of minutes.  I did not completely 
replace them since I had just gotten it to spell when it said low 
battery and I put in new batteries.  Does anyone have any suggestions 
how to get it out of spell mode?  Also, if I can get it out of spell 
mode and it will spell the name of the prescription, is there a way of 
getting it to say something like Beta for the letter b, Charlie for the 
letter c etc?  With my bad hearing, several letters and numbers sound alike.


I got an iPhone after I received the Spoken RX station and was wondering 
if the app will say Beta etc.?


Many thanks,

Margaret

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Re: CVS Pharmacy Spoken Rx for iOS and Android

[Margaret Thomas]

Hi, Chris and All:

I received a Spoken RX device some time ago and had problems with it and 
thought I would try out the CBS app on my iPhone SE 2020.  I clicked on 
the link on my Windows 10 Pro and JAWS 2021 you gave to try to find out 
more and it seems that one now needs a YouTube account.  Is this correct?


Thank you,

Margaret


On 1/22/2023 5:39 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote:

Hi Mark,

In accordance to Google, the CVS Spoken Rx uses RFID, radio frequency 
identification, to read a tag on your bottle.  I also found this Youtube video 
going over the program that you can check out.  The gentleman doing the video 
is also blind.

https://youtu.be/DtuY2YMjRFw

Hope this helps.

Chris
  


On Jan 22, 2023, at 2:37 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

Question:  Has anyone got the CVS Spoken Rx feature working?

The day after I posted the podcast transcription to the group, I went to my 
favorite local CVS pharmacy and informed the head pharmacist that I wanted to 
be enrolled in the Spoken Rx program.

He told me that he had attended the training sessions on this and that he would 
enroll me in the program.  I was heartened to learn that two other CVS 
customers had also recently made such a request.

A couple of days later, I received an SMS that my prescription starting with the letter 
"S" was ready for pickup.  This baffled me as SMS notifications always include 
the first 3 letters of a medication name, not just one.

When I arrived at the store, I was told that the Spoken Rx reader had arrived 
and was ready for pickup.

This surprised me as my pharmacist and I had already discussed the fact that I 
would be using my iPhone to read the prescriptions.  Be that as it may, given 
that it would cause a bit of a pain for him to return the reader,  I accepted 
the reader.

Now, at this point both he and I are under the impression that he is to receive 
some kind of tags that he and his team can affix to my meds in order that 
either the CVS app or the dedicated reader can voice.

Is this correct?

He is still waiting on some feedback from his regional manager as to how to 
proceed.

As for me, I am just wondering if an actual special tag is required in order to 
hear the medication info.

One thing I learned from my pharmacist, and had confirmed by a pharmacist at a 
neighboring location, is that not everything CVS advertises is as accurate as 
the CVS public relations department would have you believe.

So, any feedback you can contribute as to your CVS Spoken Rx experience, thus 
far, would be greatly appreciated.

Mark

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Hi! It's your prescription talking."
Spoken RxT tells you which prescription you're holding and how to take it.* All 
you need is a smart tagged prescription and the CVS PharmacyR mobile app.

Just call your local CVS Pharmacy to sign up Available now at a CVS Pharmacy 
location near you What's Spoken Rx?
It's a smart tagged prescription label that works with our app to read your 
prescription information aloud in English or Spanish.  Created for blind or 
low-vision patients, Spoken Rx shares your prescription information without 
having to read the label.

Hello Everyone,

I have been wanting to post about this marvelous free resource for quite some 
time.

Recently, Ricky Enger did a Hadley sponsored podcast on this new resource and I 
want to make it available here.

Below my signature, you will find the transcript of her latest podcast 
discussing CVS's Spoken RX system.

At the end of the transcript, you will find the link to the original article 
from which you may listen to the audio version of the interview.

Spoken Rx is a huge step in the right direction in terms of a mainstream 
resource providing critical prescription medication information in an 
accessible format for the blind and low vision.

Enjoy,

Mark

An episode of the Hadley Presents: A Conversation with the Experts audio 
podcast Thursday, January 5, 2023

Learn how CVS pharmacy customers throughout the US can access a free service 
that reads aloud prescription medication information.

CVS Pharmacy: Spoken RX

Presented by Ricky Enger

Begin Transcript:
Ricky Enger: Welcome to Hadley Presents. I'm your host, Ricky Enger, inviting 
you to sit back, relax, and enjoy a conversation with the experts.
In this episode, we discuss the Spoken RX service from CVS Pharmacy, and our 
guest is Pharmacy Operations Manager, Lindsey Desrosiers. Welcome to the show, 
Lindsey.

Lindsey Desrosiers: Thank you, Ricky. So excited to be here.

Ricky Enger: Yes, it is fantastic to have you as well. I can't wait to dive 
into our discussion today. But before we do that, why don't we just get a 
little info about you. Tell us a bit about who you are and what you do at CVS.

Lindsey Desrosiers: Sure, gladly. I am a pharmacist by 

Re: Can't Unlock SE 2020

[Margaret Thomas]

That did the trick, Joseph.  Thank you.  The screen to put in my pass 
code came up with the phone talking and phone life is good again.


For future reference, was my memory correct that a two finger double tap 
if done correctly should stop the music playing?  Is there a verbal 
command to stop music playing?


Thanks,

Margaret


On 6/2/2023 8:45 AM, joseph hudson wrote:

A three finger double tap will turn on speech. If you're hearing the clicking 
noises, it's only because speech is turned off.


On Jun 2, 2023, at 7:43 AM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:

Hi, All:

I hope someone can help me unlock my iPhone 2020.  The phone was working fine 
before the trouble started.  I got into this mess by wondering what Siri would 
say if I said should I bring my umbrella.  Music started playing.  I do 
virtually nothing with music and thought a two finger double tap would turn it 
off.  I may not have been doing the gesture correctly, but it didn't stop the 
music.  More tries with no success. Tried saying different versions of stop 
with no luck.  At one point tried turning off the phone with no joy.  Moved the 
mute button with no luck.  Saying cancel music stopped the music, but now, it 
says VoiceOver is turned on; that it is unmuted but that nothing is playing.  
When I move my finger around the screen I hear clicking noises.  If I ask Siri 
to go to messages, for example, it says you must unlock the phone first.  The 
home button won't budge.  I have it charging.  This is my back up phone and I 
readily admit that I am still not good with it.  The only other thing I can 
think of is the mute button, but I'm afraid I'll lose what it is responding to. 
 Sighted assistance is not available.  It's IOS 16.4.1.

Any help is much appreciated.

Margaret

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Can't Unlock SE 2020

[Margaret Thomas]

Hi, All:

I hope someone can help me unlock my iPhone 2020.  The phone was working 
fine before the trouble started.  I got into this mess by wondering what 
Siri would say if I said should I bring my umbrella.  Music started 
playing.  I do virtually nothing with music and thought a two finger 
double tap would turn it off.  I may not have been doing the gesture 
correctly, but it didn't stop the music.  More tries with no success. 
Tried saying different versions of stop with no luck.  At one point 
tried turning off the phone with no joy.  Moved the mute button with no 
luck.  Saying cancel music stopped the music, but now, it says VoiceOver 
is turned on; that it is unmuted but that nothing is playing.  When I 
move my finger around the screen I hear clicking noises.  If I ask Siri 
to go to messages, for example, it says you must unlock the phone first. 
 The home button won't budge.  I have it charging.  This is my back up 
phone and I readily admit that I am still not good with it.  The only 
other thing I can think of is the mute button, but I'm afraid I'll lose 
what it is responding to.  Sighted assistance is not available.  It's 
IOS 16.4.1.


Any help is much appreciated.

Margaret

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Re: What has happened to Voice Dream scanner?

[Margaret Thomas]

Good Afternoon, All:

I've spent most of the day trying to update my credit card information 
on my SE 2 so I could get VD Scan and am using my computer to read 
e-mail and not my phone.  Is VD Scan the correct name to search for? 
How much is the app now?  I thought I was almost there swiping  through 
all those reviews etc. on the app store on the phone until I came upon a 
button saying something that had nothing to do with VD Scan or Voice 
Dream products and seemed to be something like $1.99.  Below that was 
what I think is what I want for $9.99 or so.  After all this work, I 
don't want to mess up.  IOS 17.2.1.


Any help would be greatly appreciated,

Margaret


On 1/13/2024 3:18 PM, Esther Levegnale wrote:

Hi,everyone,

I really enjoy reading my mail and other documents using VD Scan.  It's 
a super app!


Take care, everyone.

Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

On Jan 13, 2024, at 10:30 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:




Kerry,

Winston stills owns and supports Voice Dream Scanner.  Only he changed 
the name to VDScan to separate it from the Voice Dream Reader that he 
sold to the Applause Group.


VDScan is working perfectly for me on my iPhone 13 pro.

Here is the link to VDScan on the app store.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/vdscan/id1446737725 



I do not believe you can use the Voice Dream Reader voices any longer.

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God 
stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through 
Hell to get it.”


-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ 

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*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Kerry Macdonald

*Sent:* Saturday, January 13, 2024 5:39 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* What has happened to Voice Dream scanner?

Hi all. I would like to be able to use my voice stream scanner app, 
however, when I try to update it in the App Store, it simply updates, 
my voice stream reader app. When I try to open my Scanner app on my 
phone, it just does not open. Have they removed this app and any and 
all support for it? I bought these apps back when Winston was in 
charge of all of them, so do not have the subscription version. Are 
they now being awful, and requiring us to pay a subscription fee to 
use the Scanner app? Thanks in advance.


I do not like the way this new group is running this app. Are there 
any ways to purchase any updated versions of voices or any new voices? 
It is a much more difficult app to use I think than when Winston was 
running it. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. I have some 
documents I need to scan so would like to be able to continue to use 
the app.


Kerry

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Re: What has happened to Voice Dream scanner?

[Margaret Thomas]

My efforts in getting VD Scan yesterday were successful and I got an 
e-mail receipt from Apple that the app was $9.99 plus tax.


Margaret


On 1/16/2024 5:18 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Here is the direct link to VDScan.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/vdscan/id1446737725 
<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/vdscan/id1446737725>


The last I knew, it is still $9.99.

Richard, USA

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stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell 
to get it.”


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On Jan 16, 2024, at 1:27 PM, Margaret Thomas  
wrote:


Good Afternoon, All:

I've spent most of the day trying to update my credit card information 
on my SE 2 so I could get VD Scan and am using my computer to read 
e-mail and not my phone.  Is VD Scan the correct name to search for? 
How much is the app now?  I thought I was almost there swiping 
 through all those reviews etc. on the app store on the phone until I 
came upon a button saying something that had nothing to do with VD 
Scan or Voice Dream products and seemed to be something like $1.99. 
 Below that was what I think is what I want for $9.99 or so.  After 
all this work, I don't want to mess up.  IOS 17.2.1.


Any help would be greatly appreciated,

Margaret


On 1/13/2024 3:18 PM, Esther Levegnale wrote:

Hi,everyone,
I really enjoy reading my mail and other documents using VD Scan. 
 It's a super app!

Take care, everyone.
Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
On Jan 13, 2024, at 10:30 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:




Kerry,

Winston stills owns and supports Voice Dream Scanner.  Only he 
changed the name to VDScan to separate it from the Voice Dream 
Reader that he sold to the Applause Group.


VDScan is working perfectly for me on my iPhone 13 pro.

Here is the link to VDScan on the app store.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/vdscan/id1446737725 
<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/vdscan/id1446737725>


I do not believe you can use the Voice Dream Reader voices any longer.

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God 
stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through 
Hell to get it.”


-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ <https://www.turner42.com/>

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715),

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On 
Behalf Of *Kerry Macdonald

*Sent:* Saturday, January 13, 2024 5:39 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* What has happened to Voice Dream scanner?

Hi all. I would like to be able to use my voice stream scanner app, 
however, when I try to update it in the App Store, it simply 
updates, my voice stream reader app. When I try to open my Scanner 
app on my phone, it just does not open. Have they removed this app 
and any and all support for it? I bought these apps back when 
Winston was in charge of all of them, so do not have the 
subscription version. Are they now being awful, and requiring us to 
pay a subscription fee to use the Scanner app? Thanks in advance.


I do not like the way this new group is running this app. Are there 
any ways to purchase any updated versions of voices or any new 
voices? It is a much more difficult app to use I think than when 
Winston was running it. Any help or suggestions would be 
appreciated. I have some documents I need to scan so would like to 
be able to continue to use the app.


Kerry

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Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem

[Margaret Thomas]

Hi, Mike:

Thank you, but I updated several days ago and, back then, I remembered 
about restarting the phone when it acts weird and it didn't help.


Margaret


On 11/23/2023 6:25 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Margaret,
If you've just updated to iOS17... restarting the phone helped both my 
wife's and my and my phone after updating with the double tap functionality.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
*From:* Alan Lemly <mailto:wale...@gmail.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 23, 2023 2:43 PM
*Subject:* Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem

Hi Margaret,

I seem to recall folks posting after the release of iOS 17 that the 
double tap time-out setting was changed to lower the speed needed to 
execute a double tap. The effect of this would require you to double tap 
faster in order for it to register.


Go to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, and double tap time-out witch 
will be near the bottom of the screen. Mine was currently set to .25 
seconds and I executed the increment button to make it .3 seconds which 
I like better since I don't have to double tap quite as fast. Play 
around with that setting to see if it helps you.


Good luck.

Alan Lemly
Sent from my iPhone

 > On Nov 23, 2023, at 4:17 PM, Margaret Thomas <mailto:avidrea...@fastmail.com>> wrote:

 >
 > Hi, Alan:
 >
 > Thank you.  I got Hey Siri back.  I could swear that the 3 choices 
weren't there when I looked earlier and I was looking for more than 1 
item and I was double tapping on Hey Siri.  The double tapping problem 
is still here and it might have been the problem earlier.  It took about 
a half dozen tries for the phone to recognize my double taps.  I got the 
phone 2 years ago yesterday and, as far as I know, I'm double tapping 
the same as I always have and the phone has just gone nuts.

 >
 > Thanks ,
 >
 > Margaret
 >
 >
 >> On 11/23/2023 3:03 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
 >> Hi Margaret,
 >> Go to Settings, Siri & Search, Listen for “Hey Siri”. The setting 
choices here are 1. “Siri” or “Hey Siri” or 2. “Hey Siri” or 3. Off
 >> I have mine set to option 2, Hey Siri. When I posted the earlier 
instructions you are referencing, I believe I was still running iOS 16.X 
so I expect I made a pig's breakfast of them.
 >> I'm not sure if you will be successful changing any of your settings 
if you are having difficulty with the tapping gesture. You can certainly 
try changing the hey Siri setting to see if you can get what you want.

 >> Good luck and happy Thanksgiving.
 >> Alan Lemly .
 >> Sent from my iPhone
 >>>> On Nov 23, 2023, at 12:52 PM, Margaret Thomas 
mailto:avidrea...@fastmail.com>> wrote:

 >>>
 >>> Good Afternoon:
 >>>
 >>> I updated to IOS 17.1 on my SE 2 the other day and am trying to 
work my way through the changes from 16.x to 17.1 to solve problems I'm 
having with the update.  I had Hey Siri on and wanted it and not Siri, 
but am having a problem with Alan's instructions.What do I do after 
"Listen for and select Hey Siri instead of Siri?"  There's no Siri by 
itself.  Right now, when I do not press the hone button, and invoke Siri 
by voice, Siri responds with Hey Siri as well as Siri.  I think it may 
have something to do with the new follow-up feature I think I heard about.

 >>>
 >>> The phone wants me to finish setting up Apple Pay, which I don't 
want. I may have an expired credit card that deleting it and putting in 
the new info might make the phone happy, but I'm having a problem with 
double tapping since the update and I was hoping to solve the double 
tapping thing first.  Do I have to solve these before I can fix Hey Siri 
vs. Siri?

 >>>
 >>> Many thanks,
 >>>
 >>> Margaret
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>> On 10/31/2023 3:23 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
 >>>> James,
 >>>> For those of us who have updated to iOS 17 and prefer Hey Siri, we 
can go to Settings, Siri and search, and Listen for and select Hey Siri 
instead of Siri and Hey Siri to have it work as it did in earlier 
versions of iOS.

 >>>> Alan Lemly
 >>>> Sent from my iPhone
 >>>>>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 11:38 AM, James Bentley 
mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

 >>>>>
 >>>>> I love Hey Ciri. Not one single time in almost one year has any 
thing accidently triggered Ciri.

 >>>>>
 >>>>> All of my other devices, especially Alexa go off several times a 
day.  I always have the TV, radio, or an Audio book going and Ciri has 
never noticed.  Alexa sometimes, will start playing music or some 
podcast because she thought she heard the wake word followed by a request.

 >>>>>

Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem

[Margaret Thomas]

Hi, Alan:

Thank you.  Mine was set the same as yours and someone on another list 
with the same phone as mine made the same amount of change you did and 
got some improved results.  So, I did the same and incremented from .25 
to .3 and, so far, things are better.  I'll play with it more if need be.


Margaret


On 11/23/2023 5:43 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:

Hi Margaret,

I seem to recall folks posting after the release of iOS 17 that the double tap 
time-out setting was changed to lower the speed needed to execute a double tap. 
The effect of this would require you to double tap faster in order for it to 
register.

Go to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, and double tap time-out witch will be 
near the bottom of the screen. Mine was currently set to .25 seconds and I 
executed the increment button to make it .3 seconds which I like better since I 
don't have to double tap quite as fast. Play around with that setting to see if 
it helps you.

Good luck.

Alan Lemly
Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 23, 2023, at 4:17 PM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:

Hi, Alan:

Thank you.  I got Hey Siri back.  I could swear that the 3 choices weren't 
there when I looked earlier and I was looking for more than 1 item and I was 
double tapping on Hey Siri.  The double tapping problem is still here and it 
might have been the problem earlier.  It took about a half dozen tries for the 
phone to recognize my double taps.  I got the phone 2 years ago yesterday and, 
as far as I know, I'm double tapping the same as I always have and the phone 
has just gone nuts.

Thanks ,

Margaret



On 11/23/2023 3:03 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
Hi Margaret,
Go to Settings, Siri & Search, Listen for “Hey Siri”. The setting choices here 
are 1. “Siri” or “Hey Siri” or 2. “Hey Siri” or 3. Off
I have mine set to option 2, Hey Siri. When I posted the earlier instructions 
you are referencing, I believe I was still running iOS 16.X so I expect I made 
a pig's breakfast of them.
I'm not sure if you will be successful changing any of your settings if you are 
having difficulty with the tapping gesture. You can certainly try changing the 
hey Siri setting to see if you can get what you want.
Good luck and happy Thanksgiving.
Alan Lemly .
Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 23, 2023, at 12:52 PM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:


Good Afternoon:

I updated to IOS 17.1 on my SE 2 the other day and am trying to work my way through the 
changes from 16.x to 17.1 to solve problems I'm having with the update.  I had Hey Siri 
on and wanted it and not Siri, but am having a problem with Alan's instructions.What do I 
do after "Listen for and select Hey Siri instead of Siri?"  There's no Siri by 
itself.  Right now, when I do not press the hone button, and invoke Siri by voice, Siri 
responds with Hey Siri as well as Siri.  I think it may have something to do with the new 
follow-up feature I think I heard about.

The phone wants me to finish setting up Apple Pay, which I don't want. I may 
have an expired credit card that deleting it and putting in the new info might 
make the phone happy, but I'm having a problem with double tapping since the 
update and I was hoping to solve the double tapping thing first.  Do I have to 
solve these before I can fix Hey Siri vs. Siri?

Many thanks,

Margaret



On 10/31/2023 3:23 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
James,
For those of us who have updated to iOS 17 and prefer Hey Siri, we can go to 
Settings, Siri and search, and Listen for and select Hey Siri instead of Siri 
and Hey Siri to have it work as it did in earlier versions of iOS.
Alan Lemly
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 31, 2023, at 11:38 AM, James Bentley  wrote:


I love Hey Ciri.  Not one single time in almost one year has any thing 
accidently triggered Ciri.

All of my other devices, especially Alexa go off several times a day.  I always 
have the TV, radio, or an Audio book going and Ciri has never noticed.  Alexa 
sometimes, will start playing music or some podcast because she thought she 
heard the wake word followed by a request.

If Apple has removed the Hhey in Hey Ciri, I will never update to any version 
of IOS 17.

Just my opinion but it seems to me like Apple has come out with one of the 
worst versions of IOS in V17 since the conception of the I Phone.

Regards,

James B


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 11:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem

It’s also possible that since they got rid of the hay in hey Siri, if your 
friend has that enabled, Siri could be listening and hear anything and quit, 
because it thinks you’re doing something. Try disabling hands-free Siri and 
just use the side button and see if that helps. I never have used hey Siri 
except on my HomePod. I have no problem pressing the side button.
Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 31, 2023, at 8:48 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

Give that feedback to Apple.  The new thing of Siri being available 

Re: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms

[Margaret Thomas]

Hi, Michael:

on Amazon.com, I found a case for the Anker GAN Prime733  that you 
mentioned,  but nothing for the device itself.  There were Anker numbers 
for power banks close to 733, but no Anker GAN Prime733.  Did I just 
miss it?  Is there a new model?  I'm in the U. S.


Many thanks,
Margaret


On 11/24/2023 5:49 PM, Michael Feir wrote:
I certainly wouldn't leave my Energrid power bank plugged in all the 
time. However, the Anker 733 is designed for that and stops charging the 
battery as soon as it's full. It doesn't even get warm. The only thing 
it won't do is act as an uninterruptable power supply. You'd have to 
push a small button to engage the battery if power failed.


Michael Feir
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On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 5:07 PM Mike B. <mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com>> wrote:


__
Hi Michael,
I wouldn't leave your power bank plugged in 24 / 7, it could cause
premature failure being that if it loses just a little bit of charge
it's constantly recharging.  I normally check my power bank every so
often and I won't charge it until it needs it, or we need to go
somewhere and I want to make sure it's fully charged.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Friday, November 24, 2023 1:39 PM
*Subject:* Re: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms

Hello Margaret. I've really come to appreciate the Anker GAN Prime
733 which combines a 1 MAH power bank and wall charger in one
handy device. I leave it plugged in all of the time so I know it'll
be full when I need it. It has folding plug prongs which let you
plug it directly into the wall socket or power bar. It has two USB C
ports and a USB A port. You'd also need a Lightning to USBC cable
which Anker makes.
I also have a 2 MAH battery from Energrid. It gives audio beep
feedback and vibrates to let you know when something's connected or
when it's charging. Between those two batteries, I know I'm covered
for a good eight or nine full iPhone charges. That'll see me through
around three or four days. More if I'm conservative.
If you're worried about longer spans of time, there are much bigger
power banks. The two batteries I have are very portable and both
will easily fit in a shoulderbag. Besides the USBC to Lightning
cable, I would also suggest you get a spare USB C to USB C cable.
That may be useful for other accessories like USB headsets,
emergency radios or Bluetooth keyboards. You can always charge other
power banks while you have electricity using the ports in the 733
charger. Hope that helps a bit. Amazon has a slight discount here in
Canada on a number of Anker products. Doubtless, this is true in the
US also. There are a very wide range of other bands and you'll
hopefully hear from people more experienced with those as well.
Michael Feir
Author of Personal Power: Getting The Most From iOS as a Totally
Blind User

http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2022/04/the-second-edition-of-personal-power.html?m=1 
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On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 3:25 PM Margaret Thomas
mailto:avidrea...@fastmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, All:

Could someone recommend a power bank or something similar to use
with my
iPhone SE 2020 (SE 2) for power outages from storms etc.?  I am
not a
techie and sighted assistance is normally not available. So, Be
My Eyes
etc. would have to be called upon for something visual.  I recently
heard about some models from Energrid that are supposed to be
portable
and accessible sold by Atguys,  which I've heard about, but have
never
dealt with.

I've heard about Anker products recommended many times on lists
and I
have an Amazon gift certificate.  The iPhone is my only Apple
product,
but if there is some way I could also connect either my Victor
Reader
Stream 2 or VRS 3, that would be great.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,

Margaret

-- 
The

Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem

[Margaret Thomas]

Hi, Alan:

Thank you.  I got Hey Siri back.  I could swear that the 3 choices 
weren't there when I looked earlier and I was looking for more than 1 
item and I was double tapping on Hey Siri.  The double tapping problem 
is still here and it might have been the problem earlier.  It took about 
a half dozen tries for the phone to recognize my double taps.  I got the 
phone 2 years ago yesterday and, as far as I know, I'm double tapping 
the same as I always have and the phone has just gone nuts.


Thanks ,

Margaret


On 11/23/2023 3:03 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:

Hi Margaret,

Go to Settings, Siri & Search, Listen for “Hey Siri”. The setting choices here 
are 1. “Siri” or “Hey Siri” or 2. “Hey Siri” or 3. Off

I have mine set to option 2, Hey Siri. When I posted the earlier instructions 
you are referencing, I believe I was still running iOS 16.X so I expect I made 
a pig's breakfast of them.

I'm not sure if you will be successful changing any of your settings if you are 
having difficulty with the tapping gesture. You can certainly try changing the 
hey Siri setting to see if you can get what you want.

Good luck and happy Thanksgiving.

Alan Lemly .
Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 23, 2023, at 12:52 PM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:

Good Afternoon:

I updated to IOS 17.1 on my SE 2 the other day and am trying to work my way through the 
changes from 16.x to 17.1 to solve problems I'm having with the update.  I had Hey Siri 
on and wanted it and not Siri, but am having a problem with Alan's instructions.What do I 
do after "Listen for and select Hey Siri instead of Siri?"  There's no Siri by 
itself.  Right now, when I do not press the hone button, and invoke Siri by voice, Siri 
responds with Hey Siri as well as Siri.  I think it may have something to do with the new 
follow-up feature I think I heard about.

The phone wants me to finish setting up Apple Pay, which I don't want. I may 
have an expired credit card that deleting it and putting in the new info might 
make the phone happy, but I'm having a problem with double tapping since the 
update and I was hoping to solve the double tapping thing first.  Do I have to 
solve these before I can fix Hey Siri vs. Siri?

Many thanks,

Margaret



On 10/31/2023 3:23 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
James,
For those of us who have updated to iOS 17 and prefer Hey Siri, we can go to 
Settings, Siri and search, and Listen for and select Hey Siri instead of Siri 
and Hey Siri to have it work as it did in earlier versions of iOS.
Alan Lemly
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 31, 2023, at 11:38 AM, James Bentley  wrote:


I love Hey Ciri.  Not one single time in almost one year has any thing 
accidently triggered Ciri.

All of my other devices, especially Alexa go off several times a day.  I always 
have the TV, radio, or an Audio book going and Ciri has never noticed.  Alexa 
sometimes, will start playing music or some podcast because she thought she 
heard the wake word followed by a request.

If Apple has removed the Hhey in Hey Ciri, I will never update to any version 
of IOS 17.

Just my opinion but it seems to me like Apple has come out with one of the 
worst versions of IOS in V17 since the conception of the I Phone.

Regards,

James B


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 11:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem

It’s also possible that since they got rid of the hay in hey Siri, if your 
friend has that enabled, Siri could be listening and hear anything and quit, 
because it thinks you’re doing something. Try disabling hands-free Siri and 
just use the side button and see if that helps. I never have used hey Siri 
except on my HomePod. I have no problem pressing the side button.
Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 31, 2023, at 8:48 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

Give that feedback to Apple.  The new thing of Siri being available for follow 
up questions I think is essentially keeping the mic open and thus it cannot 
give a full answer if it hears anything.
Pretty pointless.
I find nothing in Siri settings to disable this.
Though, he might try turning on showing a transcript of what Siri says, then 
maybe VO can read the whole response, but that is a poor work around at best 
even if it works.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lynn 
Schneider
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Siri and iOS 17 problem

I am trying to help a friend with a problem that has popped up since iOS 17.1. 
He uses Siri to get his sports scores. He says that, as she is reading back the 
information, any little noise will stop her from reading. It is like Siri has 
an open mic all the time. This behavior just st

Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem

[Margaret Thomas]

Good Afternoon:

I updated to IOS 17.1 on my SE 2 the other day and am trying to work my 
way through the changes from 16.x to 17.1 to solve problems I'm having 
with the update.  I had Hey Siri on and wanted it and not Siri, but am 
having a problem with Alan's instructions.What do I do after "Listen for 
and select Hey Siri instead of Siri?"  There's no Siri by itself.  Right 
now, when I do not press the hone button, and invoke Siri by voice, Siri 
responds with Hey Siri as well as Siri.  I think it may have something 
to do with the new follow-up feature I think I heard about.


The phone wants me to finish setting up Apple Pay, which I don't want. 
I may have an expired credit card that deleting it and putting in the 
new info might make the phone happy, but I'm having a problem with 
double tapping since the update and I was hoping to solve the double 
tapping thing first.  Do I have to solve these before I can fix Hey Siri 
vs. Siri?


Many thanks,

Margaret


On 10/31/2023 3:23 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:

James,

For those of us who have updated to iOS 17 and prefer Hey Siri, we can go to 
Settings, Siri and search, and Listen for and select Hey Siri instead of Siri 
and Hey Siri to have it work as it did in earlier versions of iOS.

Alan Lemly
Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 31, 2023, at 11:38 AM, James Bentley  wrote:

I love Hey Ciri.  Not one single time in almost one year has any thing 
accidently triggered Ciri.

All of my other devices, especially Alexa go off several times a day.  I always 
have the TV, radio, or an Audio book going and Ciri has never noticed.  Alexa 
sometimes, will start playing music or some podcast because she thought she 
heard the wake word followed by a request.

If Apple has removed the Hhey in Hey Ciri, I will never update to any version 
of IOS 17.

Just my opinion but it seems to me like Apple has come out with one of the 
worst versions of IOS in V17 since the conception of the I Phone.

Regards,

James B


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 11:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem

It’s also possible that since they got rid of the hay in hey Siri, if your 
friend has that enabled, Siri could be listening and hear anything and quit, 
because it thinks you’re doing something. Try disabling hands-free Siri and 
just use the side button and see if that helps. I never have used hey Siri 
except on my HomePod. I have no problem pressing the side button.
Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 31, 2023, at 8:48 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

Give that feedback to Apple.  The new thing of Siri being available for follow 
up questions I think is essentially keeping the mic open and thus it cannot 
give a full answer if it hears anything.
Pretty pointless.
I find nothing in Siri settings to disable this.
Though, he might try turning on showing a transcript of what Siri says, then 
maybe VO can read the whole response, but that is a poor work around at best 
even if it works.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lynn 
Schneider
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Siri and iOS 17 problem

I am trying to help a friend with a problem that has popped up since iOS 17.1. 
He uses Siri to get his sports scores. He says that, as she is reading back the 
information, any little noise will stop her from reading. It is like Siri has 
an open mic all the time. This behavior just started recently. He thought that 
an update fixed it, and it worked well for about a day, but then went back to 
this problematic behavior. Any insights on how to solve this problem would be 
much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Sent from my iPhone

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[Margaret Thomas]

Hi, All:

Could someone recommend a power bank or something similar to use with my 
iPhone SE 2020 (SE 2) for power outages from storms etc.?  I am not a 
techie and sighted assistance is normally not available.  So, Be My Eyes 
etc. would have to be called upon for something visual.  I recently 
heard about some models from Energrid that are supposed to be portable 
and accessible sold by Atguys,  which I've heard about, but have never 
dealt with.


I've heard about Anker products recommended many times on lists and I 
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[Margaret Thomas]

Michael,

I have the 2nd edition of your book.  Could you please tell what iPhone 
and version of IOS was used?


Many thanks,

Margaret


On 3/21/2024 6:40 AM, Michael Feir wrote:
Hello Viki. Quite a lot of help is out ther regarding Face id. Jonathan 
Mosen did a very good podcast demonstrating the process of setting it up 
and using it. It would still be found at:

www.livingblindfully.com 
Applevis also has lots of resources including at least one podcast 
episode and likely much more on the subject. Go to:

www.applevis.com 
and search for face id.
There's also my book. I did my best to describe how to hold the iPhone 
while seting up and using Face ID. You'll find a link to my book in my 
signature below.


Michael Feir
Author of Personal Power: Getting The Most From iOS as a Totally Blind User
http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2022/04/the-second-edition-of-personal-power.html?m=1 

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Also, I was told that one of the 15 models gives you the option of
using face ID or not. Is that true, and if so, which one?
Thank you.
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Re: seeking tutorial

[Margaret Thomas]

Thanks, Michael.

Also, thank you for including a Table of Contents in your book.  I have 
the ePub version of a book on IOS 17 by another author and, apparently, 
there's noTOC which I find very unusual in a non-fiction title.


The rumors about IOS 18 sound like it could be very interesting.

Margaret


On 3/22/2024 9:17 PM, Michael Feir wrote:
It was writen for iOS 15. I started on an iPhone 10R and finished 
writing it on an iPhone 13. I'm now using an iPhone 15 to write the 
third edition which will be aimed at iOS 18. I'll likely need a few 
months to write in all the new additions Apple throws at us, but I'll 
publish as soon as possible. I'm thinking around the end of April 2025. 
Sooner if I can manage that.


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Author of Personal Power: Getting The Most From iOS as a Totally Blind User
http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2022/04/the-second-edition-of-personal-power.html?m=1 
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On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 3:38 PM Margaret Thomas <mailto:avidrea...@fastmail.com>> wrote:


Michael,

I have the 2nd edition of your book.  Could you please tell what iPhone
and version of IOS was used?

Many thanks,

Margaret


On 3/21/2024 6:40 AM, Michael Feir wrote:
 > Hello Viki. Quite a lot of help is out ther regarding Face id.
Jonathan
 > Mosen did a very good podcast demonstrating the process of
setting it up
 > and using it. It would still be found at:
 > www.livingblindfully.com <http://www.livingblindfully.com>
<http://www.livingblindfully.com <http://www.livingblindfully.com>>
 > Applevis also has lots of resources including at least one podcast
 > episode and likely much more on the subject. Go to:
 > www.applevis.com <http://www.applevis.com>
<http://www.applevis.com <http://www.applevis.com>>
 > and search for face id.
 > There's also my book. I did my best to describe how to hold the
iPhone
 > while seting up and using Face ID. You'll find a link to my book
in my
 > signature below.
 >
 > Michael Feir
 > Author of Personal Power: Getting The Most From iOS as a Totally
Blind User
 >
http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2022/04/the-second-edition-of-personal-power.html?m=1 
<http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2022/04/the-second-edition-of-personal-power.html?m=1> 
<http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2022/04/the-second-edition-of-personal-power.html?m=1 
<http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2022/04/the-second-edition-of-personal-power.html?m=1>>
 > Mastodon: @mfeir@mstdn.social
 > Twitter: mfeir
 > Skype: michael-feir
 > Check out my blog at:
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<http://www.michaelfeir.blogspot.ca>
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<http://www.michaelfeir.blogspot.ca>>
 >
 >
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 >
 >     __
 >     Hi,
 >     I am switching from the original SE to either a 14 or 15. Since I
 >     have never had to deal with face ID or a phone without a home
key,
 >     does anyone have any suggestions as to where I can get a tutorial
 >     for the new gestures and features of either of those phones?
 >     Also, I was told that one of the 15 models gives you the
option of
 >     using face ID or not. Is that true, and if so, which one?
 >     Thank you.
 >     Vicki
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