Re: [Vo]:Krivit vs. ENEA
On Mar 24, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Jones Beene wrote: -Original Message- From: Horace Heffner It is somewhat frustrating to me that no one seems to have ever read, or if so, understood what I have written... It requires time for us mere mortals - a considerable time of study contemplation (not to mention procrastination) before the novelty and insight can sink in Well it is strictly an amateur effort, and aimed mainly at an amateur audience that might be interested in experimenting. I think the problem is my lack of writing ability. It's frustrating because I've been working at improving my writing skills for years now. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
Re: [Vo]:Peter L Hagelstein 2D -- He4 + 24 MEV in fractal Pd or Au nanovoids, with 2-stage spin boson model for energy downshifts to 2 MEV to optical phonons: Lomax: Murray 2010.03.24
In reply to Rich Murray's message of Wed, 24 Mar 2010 22:16:42 -0600: Hi, [snip] www.NewEnergyTimes.com/v2/library/2010/2010HagelsteinP-ConstraintsOnECP.pdf [snip] There is a typo in formula 1. The value between parentheses is always 1. Does anyone know what was actually intended? Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html
Re: [Vo]:Miles' new recipe for codeposition
Thank you for reading that old paper. An other idea is the the process is very superficial and extremely local and this was not taken in account by the theorists. Because you was very nice to explain me your personal program in the field, I want to tell you with absolute sincerity what I think about the CF problem in toto. a) my interest is strongly focused on CF as an energy source, I consider theory as a means and not an aims, b) obviously nuclear emisions and other nuclear reactions are intersting but secondary to energy generation; c) the slow development of the field is something very bad - am 73 years old and have slight chances to see the start of technological applications, but perhaps this tragedy is both alleviated and enhanced by the fact that the field is developing in a bad direction d) by far the worse thing is the palladium dependence of the field; palladium is very rare element you can calculate how much energy can be obtained with say 100 W/sq.cm Pd and a maximum of 100 tonnes of palladium used, and palladium is a consumable stuff in this case e) electrolysis seems to be compulsory for decent results and electrolysis is very bad for engineering, dry sytems (with the exception of the Piantelli and Focardi Rossi H/Ni that's different, and we have plenty of Nickel, thanks to Nature!) f) In 2005 Steve Krivit an I have made a survey and the results both regarding understanding what happens and of what happens really will be catastrophic after two stages of improvement. If we repeat this survey today, will it say different more optimistic thngs? g) Can Melvin's recent results change this in a radical, convincimg way? (Stan Szpak has invented co-deposition many years ago- the method generates a cleaner surface with good morphology but its efficiency has limits) But let's see the results Miles has obtained. h) I adore intersting things but I consider that it is my duty to do useful ones. When I have digested mentally the results of the survey I decided that I will observe with care what happens in the field but my emotional implication will not be more deep. I am now the editor of a great (as volume) weekly Romanian language newsletter specialized in websearch and real-life problem solving. Trying to develop rules for good thinking. You can find a part of my ideas searching peter gluck septoes I have lost hope that anybody will take my poisononig hypothesis seriously- there are no high vacuum specialists there- the only people who have a right idea about how dirty is a surface, the oither think naively that there are Pd atoms at the very surface of a palladium cathode. Stimulation methods as Dennis Letts' and Deninis Craven's laser irradiation are good because they clean in situ a few active sites of Pd. Limited efficiency. I perfectly know that this message will be ignored by almost everybody. All I can do is to hope that Randy Mills' and the Piantelli method will succeed. On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:03 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote: At 03:52 PM 3/24/2010, Peter Gluck wrote: www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/GluckPunderstand.pdf Very interesting. I picked up particularly on the comment that paradoxically, lack of reproducibility has an amazingly great informational value. That's absolutely right, except in narrow circumstances. If one person makes a report, and nobody can replicate, and especially if the one person can't replicate later, and this persists, we have an unconfirmed anomaly which can have, easily, prosaic explanations, that may have nothing to do with any new discovery. But when replication is merely difficult and erratic, this is clear evidence that there are unknown processes at work. I.e., if multiple workers, with different materials, find a variety of results, the first presumption should be that there are unidentified variables, such as, say, you mention, sulfur contamination or something else.
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Re: [Vo]:Miles' new recipe for codeposition
I' m really grateful for this report of your interesting work. I have to confess that my priority and focus are different- I hope that CF will lead to an energy technology. However I will follow you progress with total empathy and with all my crossable parts crossed. More in my other message. Have now urgent work to do for my employer- UPC Romania- in the US it is Liberty Global a great ISP, I am the editor of their local newsletter. Websearch. On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:27 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote: At 03:52 PM 3/24/2010, Peter Gluck wrote: If I understand you correctly, you are performing experimental work and your ideas are based on this. Like exploring parameter space. Can you be so kind to tell here or on my personal address, in complete confidentiality what are the peak results as excess heat and reproducibility you have obtained? Thank you in advance! I've been very open about what I've done and not done, and my results will be openly presented as soon as they are available. I have not run cells yet, and I'm not studying excess heat, having decided that this is not compatible with my goals, which I'll explain. I came across the resurgence of research in cold fusion as an editor of Wikipedia in January of last year. I had followed the work in 1989-1990, even buying $10,000 worth of palladium as an investment on the speculation that it might turn out to be commercially useful. Don't worry, I didn't buy futures, I could have lost my shirt! I just put $10,000 into a palladium metal account at Credit Suisse. Basically broke even, unless you count the lost interest as a loss. I had concluded, with nearly everyone else, that it was a bust, experimental error, a mistake. However, last January, I saw, on Wikipedia, an instance of administrative abuse, the web site lenr-canr.org was blacklisted without adequate reason. As I looked at the article, I started to read the sources, and I do have adequate education to understand most of what I read. I read enough sources to change my mind. And when I tried to bring the Wikipedia article into compliance with Wikipedia neutrality policy, and to make a long story short, I was banned from discussing that topic. But at the same time, a business idea had occurred to me, that could not only assist in shifting public perception of cold fusion, but that might also make a little money. Not a lot of money, but enough, I hope, to recover my investment in time and money. The idea was to design kits to reproduce solid cold fusion experiments, cheaply, so cheaply and so reliably that these could be sold even to high school students for science fair projects. There is, I'm sure, a market. It also turns out that the same conditions (cheap, reliable) would make these kits valuable, as well, to a subclass of researchers in the field. I have assembled all the materials, and what is holding me back is only my own distraction, I'm running a textile business and have other interests as well. I've designed the experiment, and have discussed it widely. It is basically a Galileo project replication, I didn't want to try something truly wild and untested. In case you don't know, the Galileo protocol, copied by a number of workers, including amateurs, in 2007, was designed by Pam Boss of SPAWAR, and the goal was to look for radiation, measurement of heat was not a part of the protocol. I began with actual testing by looking at CR-39. For the moment, that was a blind alley for me, I won't explain why here, but I'm going to be using LR-115 SSNTDs instead. I expect that I will later move to CR-39. So far, the only actual experiments I have done have been with commercial makrolon CR-39, and I essentially found that the material I first tried was not usable at all, and all that will be documented, I don't want people to repeat my errors. I don't expect any problems with LR-115, it's very commonly used for radon measurements, and I have fresh material. (But I'll test it anyway, soon.) I chose the Galileo protocol because it was much better documented (by Steve Krivit) than any other protocol, down to photographs of assembly and other details. It is codeposition, which has a reputation of being reliable, with results sooner than with solid cathode approaches (Fleischmann cells). I will not be doing an exact replication, however, and I'm aware of the risks, and if I don't see results at first, I will assume that some variation is possibly behind that. However, what I'm varying shouldn't affect the results, that's why I'm risking it, and there are improvements that I gain because of these changes. 1. Cathode wire will be gold, 0.010 inch diameter. Galileo was silver. Gold is chosen because later SPAWAR work showed much more neutron evidence with a gold cathode. I'd say that nobody knows why. But it's neutrons I'll be looking for. 2. The wire will be shortened from the Galileo length. The amount of
RE: [Vo]:Krivit again uses annoying trick
From Abd: ... With all those caveats, and wondering why you'd ask *me*, since I'd really ask someone else, like Dr. Storms, if I cared all that much about it, ... My previous comments were not exclusively addressed to you alone. I opened my query up to comments coming from anyone who wishes to add their two cents. ... my *impression* is that the energy not from deuterium to helium is not more than maybe 20%, and could be much less. And may vary quite a bit with exact experimental conditions. Thanks for your impression. Again, this is just speculation that I am asking for. At the stage of the game who really knows what the actual ratios might be. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:U. Penn. Castleman Group nanomaterials research
This has nothing directly to do with cold fusion, but Mizuno is impressed by these people. He sent me this link: http://research.chem.psu.edu/awcgroup/Castleman%20Homepage.htmlhttp://research.chem.psu.edu/awcgroup/Castleman%20Homepage.html - Jed
[Vo]:Mizuno couldn't get to ACS
Mizuno called me last night. He was too busy to go to the ACS conference. Since he retired, he has devoted most of his time to conventional research in hydrogen embattlement, under contract. He says it is fun. I think it is getting back to his roots. I said I hate to see him doing conventional research instead of pressing ahead with the phenanthrene studies. Honestly, I am distressed to see that! He knows I am. He said: not to worry, after a long wait I got some grants to do the phenanthrene experiments, and we just fabricated some new equipment for that. So that's good news. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Mizuno couldn't get to ACS
At 10:41 AM 3/25/2010, you wrote: I presume 'embattlement' is the same as 'embrittlement'. If you insist! (Okay, yeah, as much as I hate to admit I made a mistake, I was talking about what hydrogen does to metal, not about the skeptics.) This is not a well understood phenomenon. I encountered it as fledgling engineer when components of our 30,000 lb conveyor chain were failing at 10,000 lb. The culprit turned out to be our plating process for the link components. I have always wondered about a possible relationship between hydrogen embrittlement and cold fusion. Who knows, his research in one may lead to answers in the other. As described in his book, Mizuno discovered evidence for cold fusion before 1989 when he was doing embrittlement studies with deuterium (substituted for hydrogen, for some reason). As he said in the book, he eventually dismissed these puzzling effect, so Fleischmann and Pons get all the credit for the discovery. He told me that by using electrolysis, they speed up the clock and put a lot of hydrogen into the metal in a few weeks -- as much as you would get after years of ordinary processes. In materials research at NIST they use similar methods to speed up the aging and destruction of building materials. I wouldn't know if there is a connection between embrittlement and cold fusion, but anyway, Mizuno was able to replicate the experiment better than others because he had been pushing hydrogen into metals for many years. Also, because he is an electrochemist, obviously, but I mean he just happened to have experience producing high loading. His department at the university was Nuclear Engineering, originally dedicated mainly to fission reactor research. Hydrogen embrittlement is a major problem in that business. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Krivit again uses annoying trick
I'll remind, just in case it isn't clear for everybody, that for every two Ds which will have disappeared and every He which will have appeared, 24 MeV of energy will have been released in any case, _whatever the intermediary or concurrent reactions if any_. The energy released by a nuclear reaction is path-independent and depends only on the reactants and products, just like in a chemical reaction. Michel 2010/3/25 OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net: From Abd: ... With all those caveats, and wondering why you'd ask *me*, since I'd really ask someone else, like Dr. Storms, if I cared all that much about it, ... My previous comments were not exclusively addressed to you alone. I opened my query up to comments coming from anyone who wishes to add their two cents. ... my *impression* is that the energy not from deuterium to helium is not more than maybe 20%, and could be much less. And may vary quite a bit with exact experimental conditions. Thanks for your impression. Again, this is just speculation that I am asking for. At the stage of the game who really knows what the actual ratios might be. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
RE: [Vo]:Mizuno couldn't get to ACS
Terry - Another mystery of relating natural phenomena to LENR enhancement is aromagnetism which the magnetic alignment of a few aromatic molecules like Mizuno's phenanthrene - with an imposed magnetic field. I was hoping that this would be talked about. It is most unusual in many ways, including a Casimir connection. Was the conveyor belt you mention exposed to a magnetic field? Even the magnetic field of its drive motor could have been sufficient to accelerate the embrittlement process. The Arata-Zhang powder is fully ferromagnetic due to the nickel - and the A-Z heating effect can be accentuated in a magnetic field (to be published soon) - which along with the Letts/Cravens effect suggests an enhancement role for magnetism in the LENR process. After all, magnetism acts as an externally imposed constraint on molecular bosons, *as if they were at cryogenic temps*, since freedom of movement is limited - and one supposes H2 can be considered a molecular boson. In short, you may have witnessed LENR disguised as embattlement, oops make that embrittlement ... the former being one of those poetic typos that have special relevance to the embattled proponents of LENR. Jones -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton I presume 'embattlement' is the same as 'embrittlement'. This is not a well understood phenomenon. I encountered it as fledgling engineer when components of our 30,000 lb conveyor chain were failing at10,000 lb. The culprit turned out to be our plating process for the link components. I have always wondered about a possible relationship between hydrogen embrittlement and cold fusion. Who knows, his research in one may lead to answers in the other. T Jed Rothwell wrote: Mizuno called me last night. He was too busy to go to the ACS conference. Since he retired, he has devoted most of his time to conventional research in hydrogen embattlement, under contract. He says it is fun. I think it is getting back to his roots. I said I hate to see him doing conventional research instead of pressing ahead with the phenanthrene studies. Honestly, I am distressed to see that! He knows I am. He said: not to worry, after a long wait I got some grants to do the phenanthrene experiments, and we just fabricated some new equipment for that. So that's good news. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Mizuno couldn't get to ACS
To Jed: No, I think 'embattlement' might be right in some cultures. I notice some Indian and Japanese sources use that term. To Jones: No, as interesting as aromagnetism might be, this conveyor carried poultry in processing plants. Although there *were* some penetrating aromas on those southern August Sundays when the engineers were allow to work on the machinery. I did a lot to work my way through school. The worst has to be skimming the sludge off the top of a rendering plant evaporation pond. I'll spare you the details of just what was being rendered. T
RE: [Vo]:Mizuno couldn't get to ACS
-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton ... Although there *were* some penetrating aromas on those southern August Sundays when the engineers were allow to work on the machinery ... Well, I'm sure those ramblin' wrecks were a head of their time, and phenanthrene is found in cigarette smoke, and presumably other volatile tars as well... but getting back to what makes it unusual, in regard to FRET - is the photo-activity and fluorescence combined with the aromagnetism. Notice the way the protons located on carbons 4 and 5 on the stick model here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenanthrene almost touch. That would possibly be the active site for some kind of LENR effect. And the fact that the molecule can be aligned easily may shed some light, so to speak on what Mizuno has discovered. Looking back in the archive, I see we did explore some facets of this, esp. in re: Les Case. His effect was difficult to reproduce and it could have related to whether phenanthrene was in the starting material or not. http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg29270.html Jones
Re: [Vo]:Krivit again uses annoying trick
On Mar 25, 2010, at 7:02 AM, Michel Jullian wrote: I'll remind, just in case it isn't clear for everybody, that for every two Ds which will have disappeared and every He which will have appeared, 24 MeV of energy will have been released in any case, _whatever the intermediary or concurrent reactions if any_. The energy released by a nuclear reaction is path-independent and depends only on the reactants and products, just like in a chemical reaction. Michel There is a wealth of evidence that other reactions than D+D are taking place. Even if there were a perfect measurement of 4He product, and perfect measurement of enthalpy, energy/4He could not be expected to perfectly match 24 MeV because there are products other than 4He. In addition, there is no indication that I have seen that reaction energy balances for heavy element LENR, either in terms of enthalpy or high energy signature particles. There appears to be an energy sink involved. Further, a preliminary energy sink appears to me to be necessary to enable the weak reactions which have been observed, as well as to account for the anomalous branching ratios of the D+D reaction. I think that sink can balance out, return energy, over the extended reaction time however. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
Re: [Vo]:Mizuno couldn't get to ACS
Based on your conjecture, would you find chrysene or triphenylene an even better initiators? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clar's_rule#Aromaticity T On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton ... Although there *were* some penetrating aromas on those southern August Sundays when the engineers were allow to work on the machinery ... Well, I'm sure those ramblin' wrecks were a head of their time, and phenanthrene is found in cigarette smoke, and presumably other volatile tars as well... but getting back to what makes it unusual, in regard to FRET - is the photo-activity and fluorescence combined with the aromagnetism. Notice the way the protons located on carbons 4 and 5 on the stick model here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenanthrene almost touch. That would possibly be the active site for some kind of LENR effect. And the fact that the molecule can be aligned easily may shed some light, so to speak on what Mizuno has discovered. Looking back in the archive, I see we did explore some facets of this, esp. in re: Les Case. His effect was difficult to reproduce and it could have related to whether phenanthrene was in the starting material or not. http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg29270.html Jones
Re: [Vo]:Krivit again uses annoying trick
Indeed, DL Hotson's third epo treatise that I just shared with you references this paper: http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/LochakGlowenergyn.pdf whereby, all types of exchanges are occurring. T On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: There is a wealth of evidence that other reactions than D+D are taking place. Even if there were a perfect measurement of 4He product, and perfect measurement of enthalpy, energy/4He could not be expected to perfectly match 24 MeV because there are products other than 4He. In addition, there is no indication that I have seen that reaction energy balances for heavy element LENR, either in terms of enthalpy or high energy signature particles. There appears to be an energy sink involved. Further, a preliminary energy sink appears to me to be necessary to enable the weak reactions which have been observed, as well as to account for the anomalous branching ratios of the D+D reaction. I think that sink can balance out, return energy, over the extended reaction time however. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
RE: [Vo]:Mizuno couldn't get to ACS
Terry, I don't have enough data to make even an informed guess about other aromatics. Phenanthrene works for Mizuno, and there are several possible reasons for why it might work - given the hindsight to know that it does work - and also several reasons for why it might work *far* better with D2 than H2. The kinetics of the hydrogen-deuterium exchange reactions is the angle I am going on now. Deuterium substitutes for hydrogen on both the #4 and #5 locations in the molecule and these two are poised to take up an inordinate amount of kinetic stress (tethered vibration) under UV irradiation and bounce towards each other often - such that any free electron - when it is able to get into that gap when two rapidly closing protons are vibrating - would then function as the Coulomb shield. This is where I need one of Roarty's fancy animations of jiggling deuterons drawing in a free electron, which might also be deflated. The site you gave, also mentioned absorbance at 290 nm was observed in Phenanthrene. This could be important. I have other references to ~290 nm being resonant for deuterium substitution. Deuterium substitution for hydrogen at an active location could be the key. Note how much better (at least in my minds-eye) a kinetic-enhanced impact fusion model would (probably) function in a magnetic field, where the benzene rings are held stationary. Otherwise the necessary alignment would almost never happen... in that a complex molecule can contort in so many ways, unless restrained. Just a wild guess. Jones -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Based on your conjecture, would you find chrysene or triphenylene an even better initiators? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clar's_rule#Aromaticity T Jones Beene wrote: -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton ... Although there *were* some penetrating aromas on those southern August Sundays when the engineers were allow to work on the machinery ... Well, I'm sure those ramblin' wrecks were a head of their time, and phenanthrene is found in cigarette smoke, and presumably other volatile tars as well... but getting back to what makes it unusual, in regard to FRET - is the photo-activity and fluorescence combined with the aromagnetism. Notice the way the protons located on carbons 4 and 5 on the stick model here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenanthrene almost touch. That would possibly be the active site for some kind of LENR effect. And the fact that the molecule can be aligned easily may shed some light, so to speak on what Mizuno has discovered. Looking back in the archive, I see we did explore some facets of this, esp. in re: Les Case. His effect was difficult to reproduce and it could have related to whether phenanthrene was in the starting material or not. http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg29270.html Jones
RE: [Vo]:Mizuno couldn't get to ACS
Jones Beene wrote: Phenanthrene works for Mizuno, and there are several possible reasons for why it might work - given the hindsight to know that it does work - and also several reasons for why it might work *far* better with D2 than H2. I do not know if he has even tried D2 yet. I think he should. On the other hand, I wouldn't want to be in the room when he does -- coward that I am. I will ask him what his plans are regarding D2. I think it might be prudent to start by mixing in a little D2 with H2, to increase the concentration above natural levels. By the way, Mizuno is retired but he still working on the campus of Hokkaido National University. This is highly unusual. Normally, when a professor in Japan reaches retirement age he has to leave. This is a good policy. Japanese universities are clogged up by seniority, and having former senior people hanging around would only make things worse, even if they have no formal authority to enforce decisions. However, in Mizuno's case I do not think it will cause any harm, because he never had any seniority or authority over anyone. He was never promoted after 1989. On the contrary, people in high places opposed to cold fusion were trying to fire him for the last 20 years. Despite that, he is not without friends, and they including some young professors who helped arrange to get him laboratory space on the campus. No salary but a place to work, and what is more important he has continued access to equipment, suppliers who fabricate cells, and so on. Plus, as I said, he just got a grant to continue the work. - Jed
[Vo]:Stimulus Suspension Would Put 85,000 Wind Jobs at Risk
http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2010/03/stimulus- suspension-would-put-85000-wind-jobs-at-risk-industry?cmpid=WindNL- Thursday-March25-2010 http://tinyurl.com/yj6yqrb March 8, 2010 Stimulus Suspension Would Put 85,000 Wind Jobs at Risk by Carl Levesque, AWEA AWEA and the wind energy industry reacted strongly to an initiative by four Senators that would suspend crucial renewable energy development incentives in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act that the industry views as a huge success and a lifeline in the economic crisis. The four Senators—Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), Bob Casey (D-Penn.), Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) and Jon Tester (D-Mont.) — on Wednesday urged the Obama Administration to suspend the U.S. Treasury grant program (offered in lieu of the production tax credit and investment tax credit) indefinitely because of concerns that some of the funds may be going to foreign companies. But the notion is completely erroneous, said AWEA, which pointed out that by law stimulus funds must be spent in the U.S. — and that the dollars being invested in the wind industry are creating and sustaining jobs at wind projects across the country. Suspending the program, in fact, would have a highly negative effect on U.S. jobs, AWEA said. “At a time when the construction unemployment rate is nearly 25% and the manufacturing unemployment rate is 13%, this proposal could cost 85,000 American workers their jobs,” AWEA CEO Denise Bode said in a statement. “This proposal would torpedo one of the most successful job creation efforts of the Recovery Act, which has already preserved half of the 85,000 American jobs in the U.S. wind industry.” More .. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
Re: [Vo]:Stimulus Suspension Would Put 85,000 Wind Jobs at Risk
Horace Heffner wrote: Suspending the program, in fact, would have a highly negative effect on U.S. jobs, AWEA said. At a time when the construction unemployment rate is nearly 25% and the manufacturing unemployment rate is 13%, this proposal could cost 85,000 American workers their jobs, . . . This is a measure of how big the wind industry has become, which in turn is a measure of how much political clout it now has. Compare this to the coal industry which presently employs 82,595 people: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Coal_and_jobs_in_the_United_Stateshttp://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Coal_and_jobs_in_the_United_States As I have pointed out previously, the coal industry periodically tries to shut down the wind industry, by pushing through new regulations that will make wind turbines in the US illegal. I estimate that wind has taken 2% or 3% of the coal business, but it is pretty clear that at the present rate of expansion within a few years it will be more like 10 or 20%. The coal people are fighting for their livelihood. They cannot win now that wind employs more people than they do. More voters, that is. In a sense, this means we reward whatever industry comes up with the least labor efficient methods. That is not a good thing. In the 1960s it was obvious to any technically knowledgeable person watching an automobile assembly line that employed far more workers than were needed, and that many of those people could easily be replaced with robot machinery. They were not, because having many workers gave the automobile industry enormous political clout, and also a base of loyal customers -- the employees, suppliers and people they knew. One auto executives famously said, when shown an assembly machine that could do anything: Anything? Can it buy cars? This make-work scheme, of people taking in one-another's washing, worked for a long time. Until Japanese cars began to arrive. By the way, General Motors did not go out of business because it had too many workers today, or because it paid them too much. It went out of business mainly because it had too many retired workers from the 1950s and 60s, and widows of retired workers. There is not a lot they can do about that. If they could have competed head-to-head with newly started Kia factories, their productivity per dollar paid to workers would have been good enough to stay afloat. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Stimulus Suspension Would Put 85,000 Wind Jobs at Risk
I should have added -- Nothing like what I have described has happened so far because no one in the energy business realizes that cold fusion exists. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Moddel paper on energy extraction
Horrace, I don't disagree with your assessment and it is no surprise the Professor finds his own patented method the only likely candidate but there are 2 things I gained from section C of his paper. First I finally understand the term Haisch coined Casimir -Lamb shift which they claim is different from the method employed by Mills. Moddel depicts both Lamb shift and Casimir effect as based on differences in vacuum energy Where The electromagnetic quantum vacuum can be altered in a much more significant way in a Casimir cavity. I don't see much difference in this Casimir Lamb- shift and what vorticians call f/h but I will give him that there is presently no connection between Casimir effect and catalytic action so my comparison between the Mills' and Moddel method remains speculative. The 2nd thing I noticed is that he makes a very similar case to my speculations without any relativistic baggage. He uses Larmor radiation , energy and known scince regarding vacuum fluctuations and boundaries. To account for their process. The only real disagreement I maintain is that the hydrogen translation will be symmetrical into and out of the cavity unless they do some chemistry to make it asymmetrical. My next blog Will be written citing his paper and terminology - I think I can put my argument together without any reference to Naudts or Bourgoin to produce at least 1 non fringe blog. Regards Fran [quote from section C of Moddel paper] 1. Zero-point energy ground state and Casimir cavities There is a fundamental difference between the equilibrium state for heat and for ZPE. It is well understood that one cannot make use of thermal fluctuations under equilibrium conditions. To use the heat, there must be a temperature difference to promote a heat flow to obtain work, as reflected in the Carnot efficiency of Eq. (4). We cannot maintain a permanent temperature difference between a hot source and a cold sink in thermal contact with each other without expending energy, of course. Similarly, without differences in some characteristic of ZPE in one region as compared to another it is difficult to understand what could drive ZPE flow to allow its extraction. If the ZPE represented the universal ground state, we could not make use of ZPE differences to do work. But the entropy and energy of ZPE are geometry dependent.32 The vacuum state does not have a fixed energy value, but changes with boundary conditions.33 In this way ZPE fluctuations differ fundamentally from thermal fluctuations. Inside a Casimir cavity the ZPF density is different than outside. This is a constant difference that is established as a result of the different boundary conditions inside and out. A particular state of thermal or chemical equilibrium can be 10 characterized by a temperature or chemical potential, respectively. For an ideal Casimir cavity having perfectly reflecting surfaces it is possible to define a characteristic temperature that describes the state of equilibrium for zero-point energy and which depends only on cavity spacing.31 In a real system, however, no such parameter exists because the state is determined by boundary conditions in addition to cavity spacing,34 such as the cavity reflectivity as a function of wavelength, spacing uniformity, and general shape. The next approach to extracting power from vacuum fluctuations makes use of the step in the ZPE ground state at the entrance to Casimir cavities. According to stochastic electrodynamics (SED), the energy of classical electron orbits in atoms is determined by a balance of emission and absorption of vacuum energy.35 By this view of the atom, electrons emit a continuous stream of Larmor radiation as a result of the acceleration they experience in their orbits. As the electrons release energy their orbits would spin down were it not for absorption of vacuum energy from the ZPF. This balancing of emission and absorption has been modeled and shown to yield the correct Bohr radius in hydrogen.36 Accordingly, the orbital energies of atoms inside Casimir cavities should be shifted if the cavity spacing blocks the ZPF required to support a particular atomic orbital. A suitable term for this is the Casimir-Lamb shift. The energy levels of electron orbitals in atoms are determined by sets of quantum numbers. However the electromagnetic quantum vacuum can change these energies, as exhibited in the well known Lamb shift. In the case of the Lamb shift the nucleus of the atom (a single proton for hydrogen) slightly modifies the quantum vacuum in its vicinity. The result is that the 2P1/2 and 2S1/2 orbitals, which should have the same energy, are slightly shifted since they spread over slightly different distances from the nucleus, and hence experience a slightly different electromagnetic quantum vacuum. The electromagnetic quantum vacuum can be altered in a much more significant way in a Casimir cavity.
[Vo]:Dennis Cox, amateur extraordinaire, with 6 views given via Google Earth by Rich Murray of 360 m high mountain E of Fresno, CA, with uphill and then downhill ejecta melt flows -- informative book
Dennis Cox, amateur extraordinaire, with 6 views given via Google Earth by Rich Murray of 360 m high mountain E of Fresno, CA, with uphill and then downhill ejecta melt flows -- informative book with 92 color images: 2010.03.25 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2010_03_01_archive.htm Thursday, March 25, 2010 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/astrodeep/message/45 _ For those who are very curious, and open minded about evidence, Dennis Cox's websites and book present impressive images showing massive airburst ablation of land surfaces from Mexico to Canada. His work has given me a vast new perspective on the landscapes I have lived in around Santa Fe, New Mexico since 1973. I hope to make it easier for you, too, to be inspired with your own new appreciation for the awesome mysteries to be seened for the looking, wherever you may be. Mark Boslough, at Sandia Labs has done a super computer simulation that depicts the atmospheric effects of an above ground blast like Tunguska but much larger. It shows the object exploding high in the atmosphere. But it retains its momentum. And, in a moving explosion, all of the kinetic energy continues on down to the ground in the form of a supersonic downdraft shock wave hotter than the surface of the sun. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/clovis/airburst.html 3:20 minute video [ for these views, use Shift down arrow to slant the view to 45 degrees. ] 36.4677 -119.1614 .255 km el, NE end of mountain, E of Fresno, CA, 3 dark rock fork tines, probably congealed downhill melt ejecta flows to NNE from SSW uphill flows from W, may have been very high temperature and high pressure gas flows carrying and shaping the falling dark ejecta melt, while tornado-hurricane systems may have created many counterclockwise firestorms of various sizes and brief durations, driven by the huge temperature gradients from ground to stratisphere, thus concentrating heat for brief periods at many locations of various sizes, levelling the ground and leaving swirling patterns on the solidifying ejecta melt -- minerals condensing at various temperatures in the hot gases would fall as melt rain and particles, and be distributed in complex patterns, including coatings on gas carried and surface rocks. wide view to NNE of NW side of Fresno, CA mountain uphill ablation flows over ridge top to downhill NE, f1 36.4527 -119.1506, mountain size 6.0 x 2.7 km, .489 km top, road, shed and pond, 30 m wide canal on NW side, road on W side of canal is el .129 km, so top is .360 km higher. Mountain is S of road 201, W of road 245, N and W of road 216. The eject flow extends past the ridgeline NE about 1.5 km to road 201. Some of the dark rock may have been ablated by very hot, high pressure gas flows from the small darker hill to the W. http://craterhunter.wordpress.com/the-planetary-scaring-of-the-younger-dryas-impact-event/california-melt/ Dennis Cox will provide samples from this site. The date of this image is 2009.09.23 . 36.4601 -119.1537 .400 km el, slop over the top, NE side of the mountain, dark rock ejecta melt flow downhill to NE from uphill from the W, also thinner light rock flow, zigzag dirt road. 36.461954 -119.157424 E of Fresno, CA, dark rock pile, 44x30 m, with .428 km el top, .400 km above .128 km el W end of canal bridge downhill to W, 1.11 km horizontal distance. 36.463962 -119.163679 .316 km el, E of Fresno, CA, dark rock pile 53x35 m, .188 km above .128 km el of W end of canal bridge downhill to W, .61 km horizontal distance. 36.4657 -119.1627 .344 km el, E of Fresno, CA, 100x50 m dark rock pile, NW top end of mountain, .216 km above .128 km el of W end of canal bridge to W. http://sites.google.com/site/dragonstormproject/ Dennis Cox, Fresno, California http://cometstorm.spaces.live.com/ http://craterhunter.wordpress.com/the-planetary-scaring-of-the-younger-dryas-impact-event/the-benivides-impact-structure/ Many Many Craters 20 starting 2009.11.22 http://cid-5d6b9f6c30c6fe9f.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Many%20Many%20Craters?ct=photos book, 8.5x11, 77 pages, 92 Google Earth color images with coordinates, scale, direction, date, site and eye elevations, comments, www.amazon.com $ 20 + $ 4 shipping, lively, laconic, frank, revolutionary, minor typos, highly recommended by Rich Murray of Santa Fe, A Catastrophe of Comets, 2009, Dennis Cox. Note the amazing Google Earth and LIDAR view in the YouTube video by George Howard of North Carolina's thousands of overlapping Carolina Bays: http://cosmictusk.com/page/3 Google Earth video of Carolina Bays 4:35 minutes February 24, 2010 A couple of months ago I was having some fun with Google Earth Pro and put together this little video demonstrating the ubiquity of Carolina Bays in Eastern North Carolina. This is one of those projects where you swear you will return and do a second draft in the near future -- and never do. So it is still kinda rough. But people unfamiliar with the
