Re: [Vo]:new publication
Some interesting charges in the LENR transmutation of elements by be informative should read Some interesting changes in the LENR transmutation of elements may be informative On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > If the Mills positive results with CIHT are to be believed, water can > support the LENR reaction. But not liquid water, it must be superheated at > high temperatures. > > The same principle holds for water vapor inside a cavitation bubble as > supportive of the LENR reaction. > Like hydrogen, oxygen is another dielectric gas that may be able to > support the LENR reaction. In the light of the purported successful Mills > results, DGT should test oxygen for LENR application. > > Some interesting charges in the LENR transmutation of elements by be > informative. > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: > >> Dear Readers, >> >> As told, the Problem part of my studies re CF?LENR is almost finished so >> I am not writing frequently.. >> This paper: >> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2013/12/cold-fusion-what-now.html >> was inspired by and aim for the authors Igari and Mizuno who will speak >> about a subject of vital importance for the past, present but especialy the >> future of cold fusion. >> >> It is midnight now in Tokyo and the Igari Mizuno paper will be presented >> tomorrow noon. Theoretically >> there are chances they can receive my paper >> and ignore it because it is heretical and what's worse too long. After >> many years they will realize that I was right. >> Peter >> >> -- >> Dr. Peter Gluck >> Cluj, Romania >> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com >> > >
Re: [Vo]:new publication
If the Mills positive results with CIHT are to be believed, water can support the LENR reaction. But not liquid water, it must be superheated at high temperatures. The same principle holds for water vapor inside a cavitation bubble as supportive of the LENR reaction. Like hydrogen, oxygen is another dielectric gas that may be able to support the LENR reaction. In the light of the purported successful Mills results, DGT should test oxygen for LENR application. Some interesting charges in the LENR transmutation of elements by be informative. On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: > Dear Readers, > > As told, the Problem part of my studies re CF?LENR is almost finished so I > am not writing frequently.. > This paper: > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2013/12/cold-fusion-what-now.html > was inspired by and aim for the authors Igari and Mizuno who will speak > about a subject of vital importance for the past, present but especialy the > future of cold fusion. > > It is midnight now in Tokyo and the Igari Mizuno paper will be presented > tomorrow noon. Theoretically > there are chances they can receive my paper > and ignore it because it is heretical and what's worse too long. After > many years they will realize that I was right. > Peter > > -- > Dr. Peter Gluck > Cluj, Romania > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com >
Re: [Vo]:Asked & Answered
Regarding: *"It took a while for me to go along with (7) and (8). It was only after I convinced myself that there really is something unusual happening that does not look like normal fusion that I became open to them."* Under the LENR reaction, what if it is likely that multiple nuclear events happen simultaneously and in parallel to the same nucleus . For example. suppose a fusion event occurs and then that result is instantly followed by a fission event. That will really get you to scratch your head. In a layered mufti leveled reaction type system, such reactions may be possible. On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Sunil Shah wrote: > > This would produce a number of more (or less) likely chains of reactions, >> that together yield the EXACT mass spectrum of the transmutation products. >> > > I like this idea, too. Keeping track of potential transmutations is > relatively recent -- perhaps the last five or ten years I think? The > results are inconclusive, because there are always questions about > "contamination" (I wonder in this context how much is actually > contamination, however). > > When I was doing an informal review of some of the papers that dealt with > transmutations, I came to these tentative conclusions: > >1. There are some real difficulties in measuring relative amounts of >transmutations. >2. The transmutations seen are across the board in terms of isotopes >on the lower end of atomic masses. >3. Some transmutations are up in atomic mass or number, and others are >down; perhaps mostly up, but this is just an impression. >4. In some cases it looks like there might be fission of larger >isotopes happening. >5. There is little in the way of the kind of activation you would see >from adding neutrons, so this doesn't seem to be a significant activity. >6. My own impression is that transmutations are generally to stable >isotopes and rarely to short-lived ones. >7. A lot of the potential transmutations look like what you would get >with the successive addition of protons -- X + p, (X + p) + p, etc. >8. Some of the transmutations look like what you would get with the >successive addition of deuterons -- X + d, (X + d) + d, etc. >9. There's a general conclusion that the amount of energy that would >be generated by the transmutations that are seen is not of the right order >of magnitude to account for the heat that is measured, suggesting that >transmutations are a side process. > > It took a while for me to go along with (7) and (8). It was only after I > convinced myself that there really is something unusual happening that does > not look like normal fusion that I became open to them. If these two items > are true, then pinning down the specific reactions that are going on might > not be a simple matter of finding a signature or two in the transmutations > and then using them to constrain the possibilities. I think you would have > to come up with some sophisticated Monte Carlo simulations and make some > important assumptions about the rates at which these processes occur, and > even then while you could gain some insight into the overall process, it > would not necessarily disclose it with any assurance. Whatever that > process or processes are, in the context of PdD they appear to lead to the > generation of 4He (although not in every case), and in the context of NiH, > no one but Rossi and Defkalion really seems to know. > > >> (There are some downsides to this approach of course. Heat is measured >> now, transmutation products are measured later. For transmutation we need >> to subtract effects of external ionizing radiation (cosmic, for example), >> and natural isotope spread of the bulk material, and uncertainties due to >> impurities.) >> > > I'm going to guess that the variance in transmutation measurements from > one trial to another is very high. For this reason it seems like a lot of > trials are needed to obtain reliable numbers for any relative ratios of > isotopes before and after. > > Eric > >
Re: [Vo]:Asked & Answered
On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 4:09 PM, wrote: > There is a claim that successive transmutations threw addition of protons > or deuterons actually is an mass spectroscopy error made from formations of > molecules. > I remember some details along those lines. Using mass spectrometry of an insufficient resolution will get people in trouble if they forget about other possible species. I believe if you have a nice mass spectrometer you can resolve the peaks sufficiently to distinguish between species of similar mass. I recall there being other ways than mass spectrometry to do isotopic analysis as well. But isotopic analysis does not sound like something for the faint of heart. BTW, in my earlier note I said that the combinations X + p and X + d were common. I now remember that these two reactions were not enough to explain everything. Eric
Re: [Vo]:Asked & Answered
There is a claim that successive transmutations threw addition of protons or deuterons actually is an mass spectroscopy error made from formations of molecules. Some controls of the Japan result may have been made in US. I do not remember where I have read this. On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 11:49:53 -0800, Eric Walker wrote: On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Sunil Shah wrote: This would produce a number of more (or less) likely chains of reactions, that together yield the EXACT mass spectrum of the transmutation products. I like this idea, too. Keeping track of potential transmutations is relatively recent -- perhaps the last five or ten years I think? The results are inconclusive, because there are always questions about "contamination" (I wonder in this context how much is actually contamination, however). When I was doing an informal review of some of the papers that dealt with transmutations, I came to these tentative conclusions: * There are some real difficulties in measuring relative amounts of transmutations. * The transmutations seen are across the board in terms of isotopes on the lower end of atomic masses. * Some transmutations are up in atomic mass or number, and others are down; perhaps mostly up, but this is just an impression. * In some cases it looks like there might be fission of larger isotopes happening. * There is little in the way of the kind of activation you would see from adding neutrons, so this doesn't seem to be a significant activity. * My own impression is that transmutations are generally to stable isotopes and rarely to short-lived ones. * A lot of the potential transmutations look like what you would get with the successive addition of protons -- X + p, (X + p) + p, etc. * Some of the transmutations look like what you would get with the successive addition of deuterons -- X + d, (X + d) + d, etc. * There's a general conclusion that the amount of energy that would be generated by the transmutations that are seen is not of the right order of magnitude to account for the heat that is measured, suggesting that transmutations are a side process. It took a while for me to go along with (7) and (8). It was only after I convinced myself that there really is something unusual happening that does not look like normal fusion that I became open to them. If these two items are true, then pinning down the specific reactions that are going on might not be a simple matter of finding a signature or two in the transmutations and then using them to constrain the possibilities. I think you would have to come up with some sophisticated Monte Carlo simulations and make some important assumptions about the rates at which these processes occur, and even then while you could gain some insight into the overall process, it would not necessarily disclose it with any assurance. Whatever that process or processes are, in the context of PdD they appear to lead to the generation of 4He (although not in every case), and in the context of NiH, no one but Rossi and Defkalion really seems to know. (There are some downsides to this approach of course. Heat is measured now, transmutation products are measured later. For transmutation we need to subtract effects of external ionizing radiation (cosmic, for example), and natural isotope spread of the bulk material, and uncertainties due to impurities.) I'm going to guess that the variance in transmutation measurements from one trial to another is very high. For this reason it seems like a lot of trials are needed to obtain reliable numbers for any relative ratios of isotopes before and after. Eric Links: -- [1] mailto:s.u.n@hotmail.com
Re: [Vo]:Asked & Answered
My current understanding about how LENR works involves the interaction of strong magnetic fields with the isospin properties of fermions. Isospin is a quantum mechanical property that is not related to orientation in space. Charge spin locking is a quantum mechanical interaction mechanism between, a magnetic field and the isospins in fermions that provide a mechanism for charge screening by magnetic fields. Currently, my best understanding of charge-spin locking is that the isospin vector orients to the direction parallel to the magnetic field lines of the applied magnetic field. In this way, isospin of the fermion is captured and immobilized by the magnetic flux lines. In the presence of a very strong magnetic field, the duel vortex based solitons of magnetic flux lines are formed by interaction with the repulsive coulomb field of the fermion and then positioned relative to the magnetic field lines. This interaction is relative to the effected fermion. When the magnetic field is strong enough, the solitons are created by the fermion in an attempt to minimize columbic repulsion. In the process of this weakly interacting composite fermion formation, much of the original charge of the fermion is shielded by the duel vortex based solitons. This theory is based on the Hall Effect for electrons and more specifically, the fractional quantum Hall Effect applied to the various layered fermion structures in the atomic nucleus. For example, certain atomic nuclei can undergo charge spin locking easier than others. Ni62 and Ni64 are the easiest type of nuclei to charge spin lock. Next, the other even atomic numbered nickel nuclei. The Ni61 nuclei is the hardest nickel nuclei to charge spin lock, but given a very strong magnetic field, Ni61 as well as any other atomic nuclei can be charge spin locked. Do not expect a charge spin nuclei to react to any reorientation in space. There are no relationships between ordinary space dimensions and isospin. Isospin is a quantum mechanical property of the fermion and its direction is relative to its own reference frame. Many of the LENR dots point in this theoretical direction. I particularly like the idea that multi-leveled fermion shielding paths inside the nucleus which include the fermionic layering of nucleus, nucleon, and quark. This fermion layered nuclear structure provides an explanation of the many complex nuclear reactions that are seen in the ash products of LENR. Nuclear fusion of a proton and a nucleus happens on the nuclear level of fermion resolution, whereas fission of a heavy element into multiple lighter elements happens on the nucleon (protons and neutrons) level of fermion resolution. Charge spin locking of quarks will produce strange and unpredictable LENR reactions. When magnetic fields grow truly huge, there is also a LENR mechanism for this increased magnetic field strength to support changes in the types of nuclear reactions similar to those that are seen in supernovas were unusual nuclear reactions like fusion to transuranic isotopes occur. On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Sunil Shah wrote: > > This would produce a number of more (or less) likely chains of reactions, >> that together yield the EXACT mass spectrum of the transmutation products. >> > > I like this idea, too. Keeping track of potential transmutations is > relatively recent -- perhaps the last five or ten years I think? The > results are inconclusive, because there are always questions about > "contamination" (I wonder in this context how much is actually > contamination, however). > > When I was doing an informal review of some of the papers that dealt with > transmutations, I came to these tentative conclusions: > >1. There are some real difficulties in measuring relative amounts of >transmutations. >2. The transmutations seen are across the board in terms of isotopes >on the lower end of atomic masses. >3. Some transmutations are up in atomic mass or number, and others are >down; perhaps mostly up, but this is just an impression. >4. In some cases it looks like there might be fission of larger >isotopes happening. >5. There is little in the way of the kind of activation you would see >from adding neutrons, so this doesn't seem to be a significant activity. >6. My own impression is that transmutations are generally to stable >isotopes and rarely to short-lived ones. >7. A lot of the potential transmutations look like what you would get >with the successive addition of protons -- X + p, (X + p) + p, etc. >8. Some of the transmutations look like what you would get with the >successive addition of deuterons -- X + d, (X + d) + d, etc. >9. There's a general conclusion that the amount of energy that would >be generated by the transmutations that are seen is not of the right order >of magnitude to account for the heat that is measured, suggesting that
Re: [Vo]:Re: Energy release, gravity and "Spirit" are connected
Greeting Jones et al, I sent Hal Putoff a copy and will be sending Dr John Schuessler a copy of the McDonnel Douglas interview. John worked with Bob Woods...he is now in Littleton, CO. Also there is a Maynard video...he was ex-DIA A great video. Ad Astra, Ron KitaChiralex On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 3:56 AM, wrote: > > To Jones > The Jack Houck whom Dr. Wood mentioned in the interview, published a text > on the "MAW" (http://www.jackhouck.com/maw.shtml) in which he states: "There > is some evidence that there is a mental access window (MAW) when the > predominat frequency of an individual's electroencephalogram (EEG) is 7.81 > to 7.83 Hz." > This is the access to the cosmic wide web and everybody can do this after > a little bit of practice. This > he meant when he said "you probably get a good hint on how psychic things > work". > Have a good day! Ingeborg >
Re: [Vo]:Energy release, gravity and "Spirit" are connected
A major geopolitical component that directly impacts national security at the highest levels is the notion of "genocide" vs "nationalism". In the original definition accepted by the Geneva convention, "genocide" was defined in terms of the "destruction of nations". However, almost at the same time, the cause of "genocide" in actual usage came to be associated with "nationalism". Nationalism, in the moral zeitgeist, came to be seen as the cause of "genocide". Hence, if a nation was undergoing genocide and this aroused defensive feelings which must, by definition, involve national identity as a sentiment, it could be taken as justification for actions to destroy the nation. Hence you had the Rosenbergs transferring atomic secrets to the Soviets for the high purpose of internationalism -- a key tenant of Marxism -- and -- signfiicantly -- a key tenant of Marxism's supposed polar opposite, neolibertarianism of the Austrian School of Economics. This confusion in the moral zeitgeist justifies any and all actions to destroy national security. So it should come as little surprise that in the post-Manhattan project era, key technologies for national security subjected to the highest levels of classification -- as was the atomic bomb -- are suppressed since they are, in the moral zeitgeist of Marxism and neolibertarianism, the moral equivalent of genocide. On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 6:16 AM, wrote: > Dr. Robert Wood, McDonnell Douglas Aerospace: > I have concluded that whatever the source of the propulsion gravity > control is, is the same as the source of to release energy. And once you > find one you find the other. And I also think you probably get a good hint > on how psychic things work listen to > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thLGknsJ2Qg especially min 24:50 >
RE: [Vo]:Seen at Area 51
-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/awx_12_06_2013_p0-6 43783.xml And soon over Iran with on station time of 24 hrs. ... unless they really do have the claimed saucer http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/01/iran-ufo-drone/
[Vo]:Seen at Area 51
http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/awx_12_06_2013_p0-643783.xml And soon over Iran with on station time of 24 hrs.
Re: [Vo]:Asked & Answered
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Sunil Shah wrote: This would produce a number of more (or less) likely chains of reactions, > that together yield the EXACT mass spectrum of the transmutation products. > I like this idea, too. Keeping track of potential transmutations is relatively recent -- perhaps the last five or ten years I think? The results are inconclusive, because there are always questions about "contamination" (I wonder in this context how much is actually contamination, however). When I was doing an informal review of some of the papers that dealt with transmutations, I came to these tentative conclusions: 1. There are some real difficulties in measuring relative amounts of transmutations. 2. The transmutations seen are across the board in terms of isotopes on the lower end of atomic masses. 3. Some transmutations are up in atomic mass or number, and others are down; perhaps mostly up, but this is just an impression. 4. In some cases it looks like there might be fission of larger isotopes happening. 5. There is little in the way of the kind of activation you would see from adding neutrons, so this doesn't seem to be a significant activity. 6. My own impression is that transmutations are generally to stable isotopes and rarely to short-lived ones. 7. A lot of the potential transmutations look like what you would get with the successive addition of protons -- X + p, (X + p) + p, etc. 8. Some of the transmutations look like what you would get with the successive addition of deuterons -- X + d, (X + d) + d, etc. 9. There's a general conclusion that the amount of energy that would be generated by the transmutations that are seen is not of the right order of magnitude to account for the heat that is measured, suggesting that transmutations are a side process. It took a while for me to go along with (7) and (8). It was only after I convinced myself that there really is something unusual happening that does not look like normal fusion that I became open to them. If these two items are true, then pinning down the specific reactions that are going on might not be a simple matter of finding a signature or two in the transmutations and then using them to constrain the possibilities. I think you would have to come up with some sophisticated Monte Carlo simulations and make some important assumptions about the rates at which these processes occur, and even then while you could gain some insight into the overall process, it would not necessarily disclose it with any assurance. Whatever that process or processes are, in the context of PdD they appear to lead to the generation of 4He (although not in every case), and in the context of NiH, no one but Rossi and Defkalion really seems to know. > (There are some downsides to this approach of course. Heat is measured > now, transmutation products are measured later. For transmutation we need > to subtract effects of external ionizing radiation (cosmic, for example), > and natural isotope spread of the bulk material, and uncertainties due to > impurities.) > I'm going to guess that the variance in transmutation measurements from one trial to another is very high. For this reason it seems like a lot of trials are needed to obtain reliable numbers for any relative ratios of isotopes before and after. Eric
RE: [Vo]:Re: Energy release, gravity and "Spirit" are connected
From: ChemE Stewart I think you need an FCC license to communicate on that channel...:) Ingeborg wrote: The Jack Houck whom Dr. Wood mentioned in the interview, published a text on the "MAW" (http://www.jackhouck.com/maw.shtml) in which he states: "There is some evidence that there is a mental access window (MAW) when the predominat frequency of an individual's electroencephalogram (EEG) is 7.81 to 7.83 Hz." Well, at least until "they" take it down, you too can experience the ULF trip online: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IF1VAhyDFM Hmm. I'm pretty sure one can channel some form of intelligence this way (one's own projection, at least) but as for getting hooked up with ET, that is less certain. contact with a sub in the Mariana trench is more likely. Apparently these Monks couldn't connect very well, despite their training. or. yes, yes -- maybe they did, and their success was covered up somehow. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqDPFpJ9QRc Hmm. well, now it's clear, isn't it ? . the evidence is right in front of us: 12/21/12 "apparently" never happened when we all knew it would . but awkshully . that was the design, and it was all about a reboot of the old SIM which we are locked into . :-)
Re: [Vo]:Kitamura ICCF18 presentation
It remind me Bo Hoistad answering Pomp&Eriksson "paper". the most shocking is that Wikipedia admin who are very strict on the quality, swallow it like my daughter swallow chocolate milk, and refuse to publish the rebuttal by Bo Hoistad on ibtimes. pathetic 2013/12/7 Jed Rothwell > Alain Sepeda wrote: > > >> is there any credible critic by someone who have proven an artifact , >> published it, and that this artifact explain many possible positive results >> ? >> > > Not that I am aware of. There are only a handful of skeptical papers that > even attempt to do this. Here is the best known one. Judge for yourself: > > http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Fleischmanreplytothe.pdf > > - Jed > >
Re: [Vo]:Kitamura ICCF18 presentation
Alain Sepeda wrote: > is there any credible critic by someone who have proven an artifact , > published it, and that this artifact explain many possible positive results > ? > Not that I am aware of. There are only a handful of skeptical papers that even attempt to do this. Here is the best known one. Judge for yourself: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Fleischmanreplytothe.pdf - Jed
[Vo]:new publication
Dear Readers, As told, the Problem part of my studies re CF?LENR is almost finished so I am not writing frequently.. This paper: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2013/12/cold-fusion-what-now.html was inspired by and aim for the authors Igari and Mizuno who will speak about a subject of vital importance for the past, present but especialy the future of cold fusion. It is midnight now in Tokyo and the Igari Mizuno paper will be presented tomorrow noon. Theoretically there are chances they can receive my paper and ignore it because it is heretical and what's worse too long. After many years they will realize that I was right. Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:Re: Energy release, gravity and "Spirit" are connected
I think you need an FCC license to communicate on that channel...:) On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 3:56 AM, wrote: > > To Jones > The Jack Houck whom Dr. Wood mentioned in the interview, published a text > on the "MAW" (http://www.jackhouck.com/maw.shtml) in which he states: "There > is some evidence that there is a mental access window (MAW) when the > predominat frequency of an individual's electroencephalogram (EEG) is 7.81 > to 7.83 Hz." > This is the access to the cosmic wide web and everybody can do this after > a little bit of practice. This > he meant when he said "you probably get a good hint on how psychic things > work". > Have a good day! Ingeborg >
Re: [Vo]:Kitamura ICCF18 presentation
maybe some should revert the question? is there any credible critic by someone who have proven an artifact , published it, and that this artifact explain many possible positive results ? I feel there is very few, narrow, and addressed. am I wrong? 2013/12/7 Jed Rothwell > Blaze Spinnaker wrote: > > "Obviously it can, since it has been." >> >> I long ago realized never to say something like this publicly unless >> >> >>- I had personally done it myself >>- Someone everyone trusts had done it >> >> Martin Fleischmann and Stan Pons did it, in France, long ago. See the > paper I linked to, above. I trust them. Maybe you don't, but I do. > > >
[Vo]:Re: Energy release, gravity and "Spirit" are connected
To Jones The Jack Houck whom Dr. Wood mentioned in the interview, published a text on the "MAW" (http://www.jackhouck.com/maw.shtml) in which he states: "There is some evidence that there is a mental access window (MAW) when the predominat frequency of an individual's electroencephalogram (EEG) is 7.81 to 7.83 Hz." This is the access to the cosmic wide web and everybody can do this after a little bit of practice. This he meant when he said "you probably get a good hint on how psychic things work". Have a good day! Ingeborg
