[Vo]:Free version of Notes is out for testing

[Frank Znidarsic]

This free is temp for some testing and feed back.  The app will soon change to 
a free limited version and to full paid version.
Life is good.  I am planning several more apps.  My next app will use a midi 
input 
circuit and an app for a home security system.  I will text you upon contact 
close, take a picture, and
send it to you.


I will find a lot of use of MIDI apps, that's my thing.




http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dmobile-apps&field-keywords=midi+and+notes&rh=n%3A2350149011%2Ck%3Amidi+and+notes




Frank Znidarsic

[Vo]:XUV LENR reactors.

[Axil Axil]

Colon cancer took Jo Papp on April 13, 1989, three weeks after Fleischmann
and Pons announced cold fusion. Three months before he died, Jo Papp
destroyed all his fuel so the world would not understand how his engine
worked. Just like Holmlid makes Rydberg matter to drive his reaction, so
did Jo Papp. The magic was in the fuel.

[image: Thumbnail]


Papp invented a fuel mixer to generate rydberg matter in the noble gasses.
He destroyed that mixer too.

But now Holmlid knows how to make Rydberg matter in deuterium and deuterium
is a better "Papp" fuel than noble gases are.

What do you think we should do next?

[Vo]:Overunity electrons

[Axil Axil]

The Papp engine produced excess electrons and that system used XUV EMF to
stimulate the LENR reaction. The Papp engine used special electrodes called
hollow screw threaded closeable buckets which contained an alpha emitter in
a cavity like radioactive radium or thorium, where a electric arc greatly
stimulated the alpha emitter. The excess electrons produced by the XUV
based reaction were attracted to highly ionized  positively charged
buckets. This technology was used in the 1930's for lightning rods where
Papp pick its up its use from.

http://www.pittas.gr/en/pages/services/radioactive-lightning-rod-removal/



Since 1975 and under license from the Greek Atomic Energy Commission,
installing radioactive lightning conductors was allowed. The lightning
rod’s head had radioactive isotopes Am-241 or Ra-226. The intensive
ionization of air around the rod’s head caused by the charged particles,
created an attractive pole for lightning. Depending on the amount of
radioactivity in the head – in μCi – the protection radius was determined
from R = 50 to 400 meters.




The Papp engine that was self powered by recycling overunity electrons
produced by the XUV LENR reaction.

To see how this all works, look at starting at 21:10 of the video below.
Watch the motor in the background driven by the feedback current gathered
by the electrons gathered by the thorium filled buckets. During firing, the
motor has a spinning white circular disk on it with four holes placed
around the edge that allows you to see the disk in motion.

Bob Rohner still uses buchet electrodes to gather excess electrons but he
still uses noble gases to produce the reaction. IMHO, deuterium is far
better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zWJNyoFgJM

Holmlid also uses XUV and deuterium that produces K-mesons which eventually
decay to electrons. It seems like XUV based high energy LENR reactions
produce excess electrons.

IMHO, Rossi is using the XUV high energy LENR reactions in the E-Cat X to
also produced excess electrons.

RE: [Vo]:

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

There are equal numbers of anti-galaxies ( really inverse-galaxies ) out
there, but they 
are gravitated in 3D Time rather than 3D Space, so appear to us as cosmic
rays and background radiation
just as we do to those occupants.

Inverse Humans are ~80 light years tall and have a lifetime of 6 nanoSeconds
from our point of view.

Hoyt Stearns
Scottsdale, Arizona US

-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com [mailto:mix...@bigpond.com] 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 2:14 PM


I have always wondered what it is that causes the scientific community to
believe that the universe is comprised solely of matter?

How do we know there aren't anti-matter galaxies out there?

(Gamma-ray bursters when they collide with ordinary matter??)


Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html


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Re: [Vo]:An experiment by Klimov

[Axil Axil]

I was mistaken here. This experiment does use water. An injector pushes
water into the arc along with the argon gas. Therefore, the theories that
depend on hydrogen are all still in play as far as this experiment is
concerned.

On another note, I doubt that a plasmoid can be setup just by using a
simple rotational motion of gas. The Focus Fusion project sets up a
plasmoid by using a special type of electrode.

[image: Thumbnail]


I doubt that any plasmoid based effect is happening in this experiment. I
want to see evidence that a plasmoid has formed in this experiment.

On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 4:38 PM,  wrote:

> In reply to  Axil Axil's message of Fri, 20 Nov 2015 12:25:43 -0500:
> Hi,
> [snip]
> >http://newinflow.ru/pdf/Klimov_Poster.pdf
> >
> >This experiment by Klimov is a wonderful proof that all the LENR theories
> >based on hydrogen are invalid.
>
>
> Quote:-
>
> "2 - water steam injector"
>
> Water = H2O.
>
>
> >In this experiment, the LENR reaction
> >involves only argon and aluminum. The high voltage Tesla electric arc
> >produces a temperature of 7000K that vaporizes a minute fraction of the
> >aluminum electrode. These aluminum ions rapidly condense into
> nanoparticles
> >immediately after they leave the high temperature of the arc, whereupon
> >Surface Plasmon Polaritons(SPP) form on the surfaces of these nano and
> >micro aluminum particles. The light from the arc driven argon gas produces
> >XUV light. These photons of light entangles with electrons in the plasma
> to
> >form SPPs on the aluminum dust in a vortex based soliton.
> >
> >The transmutation of heavy elements such as nickel shows that multiple
> >atoms of aluminum and/or argon come together in a multi-atom cluster
> fusion
> >reaction.
> Regards,
>
> Robin van Spaandonk
>
> http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
>
>

Re: [Vo]:An experiment by Klimov

[mixent]

In reply to  Axil Axil's message of Fri, 20 Nov 2015 12:25:43 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
>http://newinflow.ru/pdf/Klimov_Poster.pdf
>
>This experiment by Klimov is a wonderful proof that all the LENR theories
>based on hydrogen are invalid. 


Quote:-

"2 - water steam injector"

Water = H2O.


>In this experiment, the LENR reaction
>involves only argon and aluminum. The high voltage Tesla electric arc
>produces a temperature of 7000K that vaporizes a minute fraction of the
>aluminum electrode. These aluminum ions rapidly condense into nanoparticles
>immediately after they leave the high temperature of the arc, whereupon
>Surface Plasmon Polaritons(SPP) form on the surfaces of these nano and
>micro aluminum particles. The light from the arc driven argon gas produces
>XUV light. These photons of light entangles with electrons in the plasma to
>form SPPs on the aluminum dust in a vortex based soliton.
>
>The transmutation of heavy elements such as nickel shows that multiple
>atoms of aluminum and/or argon come together in a multi-atom cluster fusion
>reaction.
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

[Vo]:Let us listen to the music

[Axil Axil]

The use of deuterium in LENR first came about because of the “Hot fusion
theory” that deuterium was required to produce neutrons, helium, and heat.
This theory overhang fiasco has lasted until this very day and has become
an unthinking idea that has clouded LENR reasoning for these past 26 years.

I have just posted how I believe that Protium and deuterium should be used
properly as far as the polariton theory is concerned. Deuterium should be
used in the XUV range only. Don’t expect heat to be generated by deuterium.
The experiments of Holmlid have verified this thinking. In his experiments,
UV light from florescent tubes in Holmlid’s lab produce subatomic
emissions.

Holmlid’s deuterium based reaction produces a shock wave where subatomic
and atomic nuclear residue explode outward at 1/3 the speed of light.
Rather that use this wonderful pressure wave to produce energy, Holmlid
wants to utilize heat like F&P had done so long ago.

LENR is like a radio; if you want to hear the music, you must tune to the
right frequency.

Yesterday, Phonon Energy put out this request for help to find the right
frequency in the infrared as follows:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1_tFmz65k8BeC1aTWY1eFJfUzBNYnV3WVB6RVA4aHFtUk1J/view

Because Phonon Energy is taking its queue from the LENR old school who
still wants to use deuterium to produce heat, Phonon Energy will be wasting
its time with infrared lasers looking for the right frequency of infrared
EMF to use. So Sad.

The right frequency to get the most out of deuterium is in the XUV range
and shockwaves are how LENR energy is produced there. If we want to use
deuterium, we must build a Papp engine with pistons pushed by shockwaves
and NO HEAT.

We can’t tell Mother Nature what to do, She has her own way of doing things
and if we don’t tune in to what she wants, then will not here her sweet
songs.

Re: [Vo]:Georgia Institute of Technology report on Hydrodynamics gadget

[David Roberson]

Looks like you have that angle covered.

Dave

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Jed Rothwell 
To: vortex-l 
Sent: Sat, Nov 21, 2015 4:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Georgia Institute of Technology report on Hydrodynamics gadget




David Roberson  wrote:


I have a question Jed.  You correct the input power from the AC source by 
multiplying the actual power meter reading by the power factor as indicated on 
the device.  Are you certain that the original reading is in volt amperes 
without being corrected?


I do not recall such details. But here is the thing: 


1. They later installed a dynamometer that showed exactly as much mechanical 
energy delivered to the pump as the motor specifications listed for that power 
level. That confirmed the watt meter was working.


2. Many independent consulting engineers checked their own installed 
Hydrodynamics gadgets with their own watt meters, including the facility 
manager at two County installations, a fire department and a high school. They 
provided letters confirming the excess heat. I do not think it is possible that 
the Dean of Mech. Engineering at Georgia Tech, licensed HVAC engineers and 
others professionals could all have made errors measuring input electricity.


- Jed

Re: [Vo]:

[mixent]

In reply to  Axil Axil's message of Fri, 20 Nov 2015 17:04:28 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
>http://phys.org/news/2015-11-supercomputing-strange-difference-antimatter.html
>
>The standard model predicts just a few kaons out of a million will survive
>the creation process and CP symmetry violation. But Holmlid produced 10
>billion per laser shot. Could LENR be what has produced the matter in
>universe?

I have always wondered what it is that causes the scientific community to
believe that the universe is comprised solely of matter?

How do we know there aren't anti-matter galaxies out there?

(Gamma-ray bursters when they collide with ordinary matter??)

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

Re: [Vo]:Georgia Institute of Technology report on Hydrodynamics gadget

[Jed Rothwell]

David Roberson  wrote:

I have a question Jed.  You correct the input power from the AC source by
> multiplying the actual power meter reading by the power factor as indicated
> on the device.  Are you certain that the original reading is in volt
> amperes without being corrected?


I do not recall such details. But here is the thing:

1. They later installed a dynamometer that showed exactly as much
mechanical energy delivered to the pump as the motor specifications listed
for that power level. That confirmed the watt meter was working.

2. Many independent consulting engineers checked their own installed
Hydrodynamics gadgets with their own watt meters, including the facility
manager at two County installations, a fire department and a high school.
They provided letters confirming the excess heat. I do not think it is
possible that the Dean of Mech. Engineering at Georgia Tech, licensed HVAC
engineers and others professionals could all have made errors measuring
input electricity.

- Jed

Re: [Vo]:An experiment by Klimov

[Lennart Thornros]

I understood this video much better than your other explanation:
"velocity derived Lorentzian properties of dilation and contraction that
accumulate so slowly at our near stationary end of the spectrum wrt C while
a Lorentzian effect produced by suppression might side step this
inefficient Pythagorean relationship entirely – It still has to subtract
from the square law/isotropy that dominates gravity in the surrounding
macro world but as the geometry gets more and more radical it may trump the
isotropy to the point where it becomes negligible and positive/negative
vacuum energy segregation varies the relativistic factor":)

Best Regards ,
Lennart Thornros


lenn...@thornros.com
+1 916 436 1899

Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and
enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM)


On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 3:51 AM, ChemE Stewart  wrote:

> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tkplPbd2f60
>
>
> On Saturday, November 21, 2015, Roarty, Francis X <
> francis.x.roa...@lmco.com> wrote:
>
>> Axil, welcome to my limb, great company but hope we don’t fall :_) When
>> you said [snip] This experiment can provide a time comparison profile of
>> how the flow of time is increased by positive vacuum energy as a function
>> of distance traveled by the LENR reaction products from the zero point of
>> the reaction.[/snip] IMHO your “function” is of Lorentzian type and the
>> fabric of space itself becomes transforming medium that changes the
>> radiations into a safe thermal energy source [traveling distance we can’t
>> see from our perspective and encountering time dilation along the way
>> “back” to our inertial frame in the “unsuppressed” macro world. In replying
>> to your email I start to wonder if I too am attributing too much to the
>> standard velocity derived Lorentzian properties of dilation and contraction
>> that accumulate so slowly at our near stationary end of the spectrum wrt C
>> while a Lorentzian effect produced by suppression might side step this
>> inefficient Pythagorean relationship entirely – It still has to subtract
>> from the square law/isotropy that dominates gravity in the surrounding
>> macro world but as the geometry gets more and more radical it may trump the
>> isotropy to the point where it becomes negligible and positive/negative
>> vacuum energy segregation varies the relativistic factor within these
>> regions wildly with even the slightest motion of gas atoms in any direction
>> wrt surrounding geometry – I have said this before but if these regions are
>> really relativistic then the possibility of nested regions becomes possible
>> and recent threads on single ions being catalysts could be the things Mills
>> spoke of WRT self catalyzing hydrinos. All the pcs fit if Casimir effect
>> and catalytic action are interpreted as relativistic artifacts due to
>> suppression including patents / claims of anomalous decay rates.
>>
>> Fran
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, November 20, 2015 2:56 PM
>> *To:* vortex-l 
>> *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:An experiment by Klimov
>>
>>
>>
>> newinflow.ru/pdf/Klimov_Poster.pdf
>>
>> Regarding:
>>
>>
>> Heterogeneous plasmoid behind PVR nozzle is γ-radioactive. Soft
>> X-radiation 100 ÷ 1 eV from this plasmoid. X-radiation decrement is
>> very small (radiation intensity decrease is about 20% at L = 100 cm).
>>
>>
>>
>> This experiment shows that the thermalization of gamma radiation from
>> nuclear activity from this LENR system is not instantaneous but still very
>> fact.
>>
>> This experiment can provide a time comparison profile of how the flow of
>> time is increased by positive vacuum energy as a function of distance
>> traveled by the LENR reaction products from the zero point of the reaction.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Eric Walker 
>> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 1:16 PM, David Roberson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> You mention that gamma radiation is thermalized in some common manner.  I
>> still find it difficult to believe that any high energy gammas are
>> generated during these reactions.   How would all of these be captured?
>>
>>
>>
>> For this reason it seems unlikely that gammas ever form in the first
>> place.  Instead one might suspect their formation is efficiently
>> short-circuited by another, faster channel, that is available only in a
>> closed-in environment, in contrast to the open environment of a plasma.  My
>> own favorite possibility: the energy that would normally be emitted as a
>> gamma photon is instead dumped into one or more nearby electrons, which are
>> stopped in the material or gas, causing low-energy atomic transitions which
>> gradually radiate away the energy imparted by the electrons as they come to
>> a stop.
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

[Vo]:In LENR good things start to happen, first slowly

[Peter Gluck]

here
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/11/nov-21-2015-lenr-foreshadow-of-positive.html
-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:An experiment by Klimov

[ChemE Stewart]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tkplPbd2f60

On Saturday, November 21, 2015, Roarty, Francis X 
wrote:

> Axil, welcome to my limb, great company but hope we don’t fall :_) When
> you said [snip] This experiment can provide a time comparison profile of
> how the flow of time is increased by positive vacuum energy as a function
> of distance traveled by the LENR reaction products from the zero point of
> the reaction.[/snip] IMHO your “function” is of Lorentzian type and the
> fabric of space itself becomes transforming medium that changes the
> radiations into a safe thermal energy source [traveling distance we can’t
> see from our perspective and encountering time dilation along the way
> “back” to our inertial frame in the “unsuppressed” macro world. In replying
> to your email I start to wonder if I too am attributing too much to the
> standard velocity derived Lorentzian properties of dilation and contraction
> that accumulate so slowly at our near stationary end of the spectrum wrt C
> while a Lorentzian effect produced by suppression might side step this
> inefficient Pythagorean relationship entirely – It still has to subtract
> from the square law/isotropy that dominates gravity in the surrounding
> macro world but as the geometry gets more and more radical it may trump the
> isotropy to the point where it becomes negligible and positive/negative
> vacuum energy segregation varies the relativistic factor within these
> regions wildly with even the slightest motion of gas atoms in any direction
> wrt surrounding geometry – I have said this before but if these regions are
> really relativistic then the possibility of nested regions becomes possible
> and recent threads on single ions being catalysts could be the things Mills
> spoke of WRT self catalyzing hydrinos. All the pcs fit if Casimir effect
> and catalytic action are interpreted as relativistic artifacts due to
> suppression including patents / claims of anomalous decay rates.
>
> Fran
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com
> ]
> *Sent:* Friday, November 20, 2015 2:56 PM
> *To:* vortex-l  >
> *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:An experiment by Klimov
>
>
>
> newinflow.ru/pdf/Klimov_Poster.pdf
>
> Regarding:
>
>
> Heterogeneous plasmoid behind PVR nozzle is γ-radioactive. Soft
> X-radiation 100 ÷ 1 eV from this plasmoid. X-radiation decrement is
> very small (radiation intensity decrease is about 20% at L = 100 cm).
>
>
>
> This experiment shows that the thermalization of gamma radiation from
> nuclear activity from this LENR system is not instantaneous but still very
> fact.
>
> This experiment can provide a time comparison profile of how the flow of
> time is increased by positive vacuum energy as a function of distance
> traveled by the LENR reaction products from the zero point of the reaction.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Eric Walker  > wrote:
>
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 1:16 PM, David Roberson  > wrote:
>
>
>
> You mention that gamma radiation is thermalized in some common manner.  I
> still find it difficult to believe that any high energy gammas are
> generated during these reactions.   How would all of these be captured?
>
>
>
> For this reason it seems unlikely that gammas ever form in the first
> place.  Instead one might suspect their formation is efficiently
> short-circuited by another, faster channel, that is available only in a
> closed-in environment, in contrast to the open environment of a plasma.  My
> own favorite possibility: the energy that would normally be emitted as a
> gamma photon is instead dumped into one or more nearby electrons, which are
> stopped in the material or gas, causing low-energy atomic transitions which
> gradually radiate away the energy imparted by the electrons as they come to
> a stop.
>
>
>
> Eric
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:An experiment by Klimov

[Roarty, Francis X]

Axil, welcome to my limb, great company but hope we don’t fall :_) When you 
said [snip] This experiment can provide a time comparison profile of how the 
flow of time is increased by positive vacuum energy as a function of distance 
traveled by the LENR reaction products from the zero point of the 
reaction.[/snip] IMHO your “function” is of Lorentzian type and the fabric of 
space itself becomes transforming medium that changes the radiations into a 
safe thermal energy source [traveling distance we can’t see from our 
perspective and encountering time dilation along the way “back” to our inertial 
frame in the “unsuppressed” macro world. In replying to your email I start to 
wonder if I too am attributing too much to the standard velocity derived 
Lorentzian properties of dilation and contraction that accumulate so slowly at 
our near stationary end of the spectrum wrt C while a Lorentzian effect 
produced by suppression might side step this inefficient Pythagorean 
relationship entirely – It still has to subtract from the square law/isotropy 
that dominates gravity in the surrounding macro world but as the geometry gets 
more and more radical it may trump the isotropy to the point where it becomes 
negligible and positive/negative vacuum energy segregation varies the 
relativistic factor within these regions wildly with even the slightest motion 
of gas atoms in any direction wrt surrounding geometry – I have said this 
before but if these regions are really relativistic then the possibility of 
nested regions becomes possible and recent threads on single ions being 
catalysts could be the things Mills spoke of WRT self catalyzing hydrinos. All 
the pcs fit if Casimir effect and catalytic action are interpreted as 
relativistic artifacts due to suppression including patents / claims of 
anomalous decay rates.
Fran


From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 2:56 PM
To: vortex-l 
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:An experiment by Klimov

newinflow.ru/pdf/Klimov_Poster.pdf

Regarding:


Heterogeneous plasmoid behind PVR nozzle is γ-radioactive. Soft X-radiation 100 
÷ 1 eV from this plasmoid. X-radiation decrement is very small (radiation 
intensity decrease is about 20% at L = 100 cm).


This experiment shows that the thermalization of gamma radiation from nuclear 
activity from this LENR system is not instantaneous but still very fact.

This experiment can provide a time comparison profile of how the flow of time 
is increased by positive vacuum energy as a function of distance traveled by 
the LENR reaction products from the zero point of the reaction.

On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Eric Walker 
mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 1:16 PM, David Roberson 
mailto:dlrober...@aol.com>> wrote:

You mention that gamma radiation is thermalized in some common manner.  I still 
find it difficult to believe that any high energy gammas are generated during 
these reactions.   How would all of these be captured?

For this reason it seems unlikely that gammas ever form in the first place.  
Instead one might suspect their formation is efficiently short-circuited by 
another, faster channel, that is available only in a closed-in environment, in 
contrast to the open environment of a plasma.  My own favorite possibility: the 
energy that would normally be emitted as a gamma photon is instead dumped into 
one or more nearby electrons, which are stopped in the material or gas, causing 
low-energy atomic transitions which gradually radiate away the energy imparted 
by the electrons as they come to a stop.

Eric