Re: [Vo]:A preliminary look at Mizuno's air flow calorimetry spreadsheets

[Jed Rothwell]

bobcook39...@hotmail.com  wrote:

Jed noted: “”Mizuno is being 100% open! What more do you want from him?
>
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>
> Answer:
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> The EM energy spectrum he saw through his reactor’s window! And any other
> data regarding the LENR process.
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> he knows about.
>

Have you asked him for this?

- Jed

RE: [Vo]:A preliminary look at Mizuno's air flow calorimetry spreadsheets

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Jed noted: “”Mizuno is being 100% open! What more do you want from him?

Answer:

The EM energy spectrum he saw through his reactor’s window! And any other data 
regarding the LENR process.
he knows about.

Bob Cook

From: Jed Rothwell
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 6:24 PM
To: Vortex
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A preliminary look at Mizuno's air flow calorimetry 
spreadsheets

bobcook39...@hotmail.com 
> wrote:

Unfortunately, Mizuno’s spread sheets regarding calorimetry inform next to 
nothing about the science of LENR.  (DARK SCIENCE IS THE IN THING AROUND THE 
WORLD.)

What does that mean? The spreadsheets are the raw data, and they show how he 
processes it. You can analyze them and decide for yourself whether he is doing 
it correctly. If he is, there is anomalous excess heat.

What else can you expect from these spreadsheets? What more information could 
they provide?

When I say these spreadsheets are the raw data, I mean that his Hewlett Packard 
data logger records data directly into them, except it is an older format. You 
are looking at the raw numbers. There is no other data and nothing more 
detailed.


MFMP is the only light on the scene. and that light .

They have not seen any excess heat. They have made no contribution, and their 
results are of no interest to anyone. They have made a brave effort and worked 
hard, and I admire them, but they have not achieved anything.


  Even the Swedish folks seem to have slipped into the darkness with their 
advocacy of open science.

Mizuno is being 100% open! What more do you want from him?

- Jed

Re: [Vo]:A preliminary look at Mizuno's air flow calorimetry spreadsheets

[Jed Rothwell]

bobcook39...@hotmail.com  wrote:

Unfortunately, Mizuno’s spread sheets regarding calorimetry inform next to
> nothing about the science of LENR.  (DARK SCIENCE IS THE IN THING AROUND
> THE WORLD.)
>

What does that mean? The spreadsheets are the raw data, and they show how
he processes it. You can analyze them and decide for yourself whether he is
doing it correctly. If he is, there is anomalous excess heat.

What else can you expect from these spreadsheets? What more information
could they provide?

When I say these spreadsheets are the raw data, I mean that his Hewlett
Packard data logger records data directly into them, except it is an older
format. You are looking at the raw numbers. There is no other data and
nothing more detailed.



> MFMP is the only light on the scene. and that light .
>

They have not seen any excess heat. They have made no contribution, and
their results are of no interest to anyone. They have made a brave effort
and worked hard, and I admire them, but they have not achieved anything.



>   Even the Swedish folks seem to have slipped into the darkness with their
> advocacy of open science.
>

Mizuno is being 100% open! What more do you want from him?

- Jed

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[Adrian Ashfield]

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RE: [Vo]:A preliminary look at Mizuno's air flow calorimetry spreadsheets

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Unfortunately, Mizuno’s spread sheets regarding calorimetry inform next to 
nothing about the science of LENR.  (DARK SCIENCE IS THE IN THING AROUND THE 
WORLD.)

MFMP is the only light on the scene. and that light .  Even the Swedish folks 
seem to have slipped into the darkness with their advocacy of open science.   
So  much for Nobel: He’s turning in his grave.

The Indian, Japanese  and/or Chinese  dark LENR R may be the real competition 
for Rossi, given their need for alternate safe energy sources that cannot 
produce a Fukushima  type disaster.

Bob Cook

From: Jed Rothwell
Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 11:53 AM
To: Vortex
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A preliminary look at Mizuno's air flow calorimetry 
spreadsheets

I now have the entire 9 hours of the 120 W calibration. I have uploaded the 
spreadsheet here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTcriHguOWtGhIQmTR1f0PZamEsAjyWHHvCYvUTg74to3nDJNRdFJk5ItVZEQYguD8iWilv7s3rgqXA/pubhtml

I uploaded a graph from the Excel version here:

https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/5340-mizuno-publication-of-kw-cop2-excess-heat-results/?postID=70654#post70654

The graphs in the Google spreadsheet seemed to survive the transition better 
than last time, so I left them in the Google sheet, but the Excel graph looks 
better.

Here is the main thing. in the calibration (just uploaded) the Delta T 
temperature goes to 4.5°C and it stays there, stable. When the power is turned 
off, it falls rapidly back to zero, straight down. Under what appears to be 
identical calorimetry, with the same input power, the excess heat Delta T goes 
up to 7.5°C, and then when the power is cut, it takes longer to reach zero.

- Jed