Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to be the precursor to all future devices

[Jed Rothwell]

I wrote:


> ULVAC quadrupole mass spectrometer: model YTP-50M.
> Built in precision meter, ULVAC, GCMT G-Tran ISG-1
>
> I do not know if this has the umph to measure helium.
>

Let me put that in more technical terms. I mean I do not know whether it
has enough resolution, power, moxie or chutzpah.

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to be the precursor to all future devices

[Jed Rothwell]

JonesBeene  wrote:

>

> Good point. Jed knows the details of the  mass spec Mizuno had available,
>  which was damaged in the earthquake. IIRC it was being repaired when the
> paper was written and its  present status has not been reported. Perhaps he
> will comment on this.
>

ULVAC quadrupole mass spectrometer: model YTP-50M.
Built in precision meter, ULVAC, GCMT G-Tran ISG-1

I do not know if this has the umph to measure helium. It is working. The
SEM is still busted and will take $20,000 or $30,000 to fix.



> Surely Mizuno was looking for helium before his lab was destroyed - so it
> is expected that  he knows how  to resolve the small mass difference.
>

I do not know if he did this or not.

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to be the precursor to all future devices

[JonesBeene]

Good point. Jed knows the details of the  mass spec Mizuno had available,  
which was damaged in the earthquake. IIRC it was being repaired when the paper 
was written and its  present status has not been reported. Perhaps he will 
comment on this.

Surely Mizuno was looking for helium before his lab was destroyed - so it is 
expected that  he knows how  to resolve the small mass difference.

It would certainly be most informative to have information about helium as a 
first priority…

From: russ.geo...@gmail.com

If one is working with a quadrapole mass spec, and especially a small one like 
an RGA it will be impossible to devolve the peaks of 4He and D2. Only by being 
certain that little D2 is present by trapping it in a cold or getter trap on 
the way to the mass spec can one ever be certain that the sample is 4He instead 
of D2. The practice is clearly informative as one learns the operation of the 
RGA with and without the cold trap.

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to be the precursor to all future devices

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Dear Axil—

You note: “Simply put, in all cases, matter that enters the transmutation 
process whether that matter is acted upon by any nuclear or sub nuclear process 
including  fusion, fission, alpha, beta, and gamma radiation, a newly 
reconfigured stable resultant elemental product comes out.”

IMHO you are correct some of the time, but not always.   Some of our difference 
in opinion may stem from semantics.  Transmutation is generally understood to 
mean a change of  an isotope from one nuclear configuration to another 
configuration with a different total energy—sometimes  the new configuration is 
stable  and  some times not.  For example, neutron activation of stable  and 
unstable isotopes can cause transmutations to   unstable isotopes.  However, 
generally stable neutrinos are thought to occur in transmutations, and thus, 
your comment may be correct in hat a neutrino is believed to be a stable 
elemental (primary) particle.

Electrons and positrons are not thought to be stable particles, since they can 
interact to form photons, loosing their identity associated with a parameter 
called charge.

The unifying natural laws are the 1st and 2nd  laws of thermodynamics and 
conservation of angular momentum which exists in finite small quantities and 
certain  locations.   IMHO space, time and angular momentum are quantized in 5 
dimensions.  (I do not have an opinion about the primary existence of magnetic 
fields.)However I lean toward Planck’s idea that fields may be the only 
real thing in nature.  Magnetic fields may represent a  6th dimension which   
is also quantized.

Entropy IMHO is nothing more than the separation of the 3-D cells of space by 
the time dimension.  This separation is associated with the disorder  of 
dimensional parameters of adjacent 5-D points—including the angular momentum 
dimension.

Bob Cook



From: Axil Axil 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 9:04:59 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to be the 
precursor to all future devices

Dear Bob,

It is my feeling that when a Bose condensate induced time dilation state is 
encompassing any transmutation activity, that time dilation allows the nuclear 
and particle mechanisms to come to a quiescent and stable  state almost 
instantly in the reference frame outside the zone of transmutation activity.

How the final results that come out of the transmutation process is completely 
stabilized no matter what that transmutation process entails.

Simply put, in all cases, matter that enters the transmutation process whether 
that matter is acted upon by any nuclear or sub nuclear process including  
fusion, fission, alpha, beta, and gamma radiation, a newly reconfigured stable 
resultant elemental product comes out.

On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 11:41 PM 
bobcook39...@hotmail.com 
mailto:bobcook39...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Axil---

There are various theory papers in the offing or already on the street that 
indicate that nucleons (protons and neutrons) are made up of 9 muons, which in 
turn are made up of positrons and electrons.

Binding forces for the nucleons involve neutrinos and EM fields generated by 
the electrons and positrons.

These models are validated by energetic electron inelastic scattering 
experiments over the years.  This validation is addressed
by William L  Stubbs in his recent book, Nuclear Alternative: Redesigning Our 
Model of the Structure of Matter.

Additional  physical models for electrons and positrons are still being 
finalized to address mass and energy equivalence, nuclear physical structures, 
binding energies  angular momentum/spin phenomena and it conservation, etc.  
This Modeling has been a collaboration of  interested people that organized 
after the ICCF-21 Conference at Fort Collins in 2018.

Together these models suggest that muons may very well result from nuclear 
transitions associated with LENR events.  They also suggest LENR controls to 
avoid energetic free muon production.

As I have suggest many times in the past on this blog, a key design objective 
for LENR reactors  is to control the process so as to avoid free energetic 
particles and their associated radiation hazard.  This can be achieved by 
inducing coherent systems to give up nuclear spin energy to lattice electron 
spin/thermal energy.   Conservation of angular momentum is conserved, much as 
kinetic energy/linear momentum is conserved in free particle elastic scattering 
interactions.  Resonant EM fields are key to accomplishing desired control, as 
well as, the ambient magnetic fields, including and  local microscopic B fields.

Bob Cook

From: Axil Axil
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2019 5:15 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to be the 
precursor to all future device designs
Furthermore, from studying LENR results over the years, 

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to be the precursor to all future devices

[Axil Axil]

Dear Bob,

It is my feeling that when a Bose condensate induced time dilation state is
encompassing any transmutation activity, that time dilation allows the
nuclear and particle mechanisms to come to a quiescent and stable  state
almost instantly in the reference frame outside the zone of transmutation
activity.

How the final results that come out of the transmutation process is
completely stabilized no matter what that transmutation process entails.

Simply put, in all cases, matter that enters the transmutation process
whether that matter is acted upon by any nuclear or sub nuclear process
including  fusion, fission, alpha, beta, and gamma radiation, a newly
reconfigured stable resultant elemental product comes out.

On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 11:41 PM bobcook39...@hotmail.com <
bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Axil---
>
>
>
> There are various theory papers in the offing or already on the street
> that indicate that nucleons (protons and neutrons) are made up of 9 muons,
> which in turn are made up of positrons and electrons.
>
>
>
> Binding forces for the nucleons involve neutrinos and EM fields generated
> by the electrons and positrons.
>
>
>
> These models are validated by energetic electron inelastic scattering
> experiments over the years.  This validation is addressed
>
> by William L  Stubbs in his recent book, *Nuclear Alternative:
> Redesigning Our Model of the Structure of Matter.*
>
>
>
> Additional  physical models for electrons and positrons are still being
> finalized to address mass and energy equivalence, nuclear physical
> structures, binding energies  angular momentum/spin phenomena and it
> conservation, etc.  This Modeling has been a collaboration of  interested
> people that organized after the ICCF-21 Conference at Fort Collins in
> 2018.
>
>
>
> Together these models suggest that muons may very well result from nuclear
> transitions associated with LENR events.  They also suggest LENR controls
> to avoid energetic free muon production.
>
>
>
> As I have suggest many times in the past on this blog, a key design
> objective for LENR reactors  is to control the process so as to avoid free
> energetic particles and their associated radiation hazard.  This can be
> achieved by inducing coherent systems to give up nuclear spin energy to
> lattice electron spin/thermal energy.   Conservation of angular momentum is
> conserved, much as kinetic energy/linear momentum is conserved in free
> particle elastic scattering interactions.  Resonant EM fields are key to
> accomplishing desired control, as well as, the ambient magnetic fields,
> including and  local microscopic B fields.
>
>
>
> Bob Cook
>
>
>
> From: Axil Axil 
> *Sent: *Saturday, July 13, 2019 5:15 PM
> *To: *vortex-l 
> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to be the
> precursor to all future device designs
>
> *Furthermore, from studying LENR results over the years, it is becoming
> increasingly apparent to me that LENR has a major issue to deal with. LENR
> makes matter and energy disappear. A major problem with LENR reactors is
> that they fall apart over time. This highly corrosive effect that these
> reactors suffer is due to this nasty issue of matter and energy
> degeneration. This degenerative process only gets worse when the power
> output level of the reactor goes up.*
>
> *And yet the amazing contradiction that the LENR reaction presents is that
> it does not produce any high energy particles or ionizing radiation. The
> question that hangs in the air is where does all that matter and energy go
> when the LENR reaction is active?*
>
> * At this current juncture, the reactor meltdown/corrosion problem has
> delayed any LENR application from reaching a successful conclusion. LENR is
> highly corrosive of the structure of the reactor as a function of its power
> output. Clearly, LENR's ability to corrode the structure of the reactor is
> a function of its power output. A low powered LENR reactor will function
> for a long time but its usefulness is limited. A high output reactor even
> if it is built like a tank does not perform for very long.*
>
> *The lack of nuclear reaction byproducts and the corrosion issue might
> well be connected.*
>
> *In addition, I think that transmutation happens when the LENR reaction
> has completed. For some unknown reason the LENR reaction in the LION
> diamond was episodic. There were three episodes when the LENR reaction came
> alive. Each of the episodes of activity produced a different transmutation
> product. But at the end of each episode of activity, each time the
> identical transmutation product was deposited at the ends of many tunnels.
> The miners were all contained inside the tunnels that they excavated. But
> they all behaved identically and communicated. They all acted in concert to
> transmute carbon into identical elements when they were active.*
>
> *From what we saw how the miners worked inside diamond, the transmuted
> elements are held in 

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to be the precursor to all future devices

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Axil---

There are various theory papers in the offing or already on the street that 
indicate that nucleons (protons and neutrons) are made up of 9 muons, which in 
turn are made up of positrons and electrons.

Binding forces for the nucleons involve neutrinos and EM fields generated by 
the electrons and positrons.

These models are validated by energetic electron inelastic scattering 
experiments over the years.  This validation is addressed
by William L  Stubbs in his recent book, Nuclear Alternative: Redesigning Our 
Model of the Structure of Matter.

Additional  physical models for electrons and positrons are still being 
finalized to address mass and energy equivalence, nuclear physical structures, 
binding energies  angular momentum/spin phenomena and it conservation, etc.  
This Modeling has been a collaboration of  interested people that organized 
after the ICCF-21 Conference at Fort Collins in 2018.

Together these models suggest that muons may very well result from nuclear 
transitions associated with LENR events.  They also suggest LENR controls to 
avoid energetic free muon production.

As I have suggest many times in the past on this blog, a key design objective 
for LENR reactors  is to control the process so as to avoid free energetic 
particles and their associated radiation hazard.  This can be achieved by 
inducing coherent systems to give up nuclear spin energy to lattice electron 
spin/thermal energy.   Conservation of angular momentum is conserved, much as 
kinetic energy/linear momentum is conserved in free particle elastic scattering 
interactions.  Resonant EM fields are key to accomplishing desired control, as 
well as, the ambient magnetic fields, including and  local microscopic B fields.

Bob Cook

From: Axil Axil
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2019 5:15 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to be the 
precursor to all future device designs
Furthermore, from studying LENR results over the years, it is becoming 
increasingly apparent to me that LENR has a major issue to deal with. LENR 
makes matter and energy disappear. A major problem with LENR reactors is that 
they fall apart over time. This highly corrosive effect that these reactors 
suffer is due to this nasty issue of matter and energy degeneration. This 
degenerative process only gets worse when the power output level of the reactor 
goes up.
And yet the amazing contradiction that the LENR reaction presents is that it 
does not produce any high energy particles or ionizing radiation. The question 
that hangs in the air is where does all that matter and energy go when the LENR 
reaction is active?
 At this current juncture, the reactor meltdown/corrosion problem has delayed 
any LENR application from reaching a successful conclusion. LENR is highly 
corrosive of the structure of the reactor as a function of its power output. 
Clearly, LENR's ability to corrode the structure of the reactor is a function 
of its power output. A low powered LENR reactor will function for a long time 
but its usefulness is limited. A high output reactor even if it is built like a 
tank does not perform for very long.
The lack of nuclear reaction byproducts and the corrosion issue might well be 
connected.
In addition, I think that transmutation happens when the LENR reaction has 
completed. For some unknown reason the LENR reaction in the LION diamond was 
episodic. There were three episodes when the LENR reaction came alive. Each of 
the episodes of activity produced a different transmutation product. But at the 
end of each episode of activity, each time the identical transmutation product 
was deposited at the ends of many tunnels. The miners were all contained inside 
the tunnels that they excavated. But they all behaved identically and 
communicated. They all acted in concert to transmute carbon into identical 
elements when they were active.
>From what we saw how the miners worked inside diamond, the transmuted elements 
>are held in invisible suspension through QM superposition inside the flux tube 
>until the LENR reaction had completed. Then the transmuted elements stabilized 
>into their final form. We saw the diamond disappear as the miners excavated 
>the tunnel, Then when the LENR reaction finalized, the transmutated elements 
>appeared at the far end of the tunnel.
When I considered what happens to the matter that the miners excavated from 
their tunnels, I got confused. There are spaces inside those completely closed 
tubes. Where did that matter go? Where did the energy from transmutation of 
carbon go? There was a lot of transmutation but very little if any damage 
produced by heat evident inside those tubes. The matter that was removed from 
those tubes could have supported the energy needs of a city for a year is it 
was transformed into energy.
I think that transmutation happened when the LENR reaction completed. For some 
unknown 

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to be the precursor to all future devices

[Roarty, Francis X]

Axil,
I agree with where you are going  here “This difference in the perspective of 
time is why we see no nuclear activity going on at or inside the EMF horizon”. 
Fusion artifact wavelengths must translate down as the frames deteriorates such 
that they are not lethal or even recognized as dangerous radiation by the time 
they leak back into our frame. It takes the gravity well of a neutron star to 
reduce the frequency of a laser beam escaping from it into space by over 10% 
and I am still suggesting that Nano cavities and self catalyzing geometry of 
the gas atoms within it can exceed those lose levels from a negative 
perspective, nesting much further down than just the familiar active Casimir 
sub 10nm range forming the hard surfaces. I believe that catalytic interactions 
in these cavities between the fractional hydrogen molecules of different frames 
can exceed unity, disassociating  from heat and stress on the bond from changes 
in frames and then reassociation almost instantly in the local frame while 
still being pushed along into  different frames that again weakens the 
threshold in a runaway-bootstrap stage that powers this dilated fusion. Rather 
than adding energy to accelerate toward C or using the mass of a collapsed star 
this method restricts the baseline vacuum density of the isotropy from passing 
thru the cavity, lowering the density of virtual particles in our macro 
isotropy below that of even deep space. The perspective of a Nano observer in 
one of these dilated regions would be an analog of our macro perspective of the 
near C Paradox twin. The Nano observer would as you said perceive everything as 
normal but see us in the macro world as frozen in time.
R
Fran

From: Axil Axil 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 5:51 PM
To: vortex-l 
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to be 
theprecursor to all future devices

Twin Paradox in General Relativity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjHLboK2M1g
From the perspective of the people in the world outside of the EMF event 
horizon, the speed that things are happening on or inside that horizon is 
ultra-fast. But at that  horizon, the speed that things are happening is 
occurring at a normal speed.
This difference in the perspective of time is why we see no nuclear activity 
going on at or inside the EMF horizon.  These nuclear reactions happen 
instantaneously from our perspective even if the radioactive isotope takes 
billions of years to stabilize.

On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 5:16 PM Axil Axil 
mailto:janap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
There is no telling what elements will be transformed by the LENR reaction. 
When the LENR active agent get hold of palladium and deuterium, silver might be 
formed rather than just helium. The mesh should be examined in a SEM scan to 
see if there is some non palladium elements present on the nickel mesh.

On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 5:03 PM JonesBeene 
mailto:jone...@pacbell.net>> wrote:
From: Jürg Wyttenbach


  *   In the Mizuno case we certainly will see 4-He with a 4-He a part > that 
106 of the 3-He part.

Jürg

If Mizuno is producing helium then it should show up very distinctly when he 
looks for it- since the total gas inventory is so low and the power is so high 
that the ratio of He:D after along run will leave no doubt. As of now – that 
evidence is lacking.

It is too bad that we do not have more information now – as this experiment is 
uniquely positioned to see it and if fount then it makes a huge difference in 
what to expect from future devices. I’m on record as predicting there will be 
none, well … only incidental Helium – possibly unmeasurable.

Mizuno clearly states nickel is the host reactant – not the tiny amount of 
palladium.

Where is the reliable evidence for helium being produced from nickel/deuterium?

Jones

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to be the precursor to all future devices

[Jed Rothwell]

Axil Axil  wrote:

Lutz Jaitner has commented on the images of craters found and shared on the
> Pd coated Ohmasa vibrator plates
>
I know nothing about this device, but perhaps the vibrations caused a
problem. Anyway, Mizuno ran a cell for 3 years, producing considerable
excess heat, but there was no damage to it. Other have run cells for a long
time and claimed they produced heat, with no damage. So I doubt this is a
problem. Or, if it is, I suppose there must be a way to prevent the damage.

Some techniques, such as glow discharge, definitely produce damage. They
destroy the cathode in about 15 minutes.

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to be the precursor to all future devices

[Axil Axil]

Also see the micro analysis of the LION diamond.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqAqhp2uR7k



On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 10:53 PM Axil Axil  wrote:

> Lutz Jaitner has commented on the images of craters found and shared on
> the Pd coated Ohmasa vibrator plates
>
> The craters you have depicted are similar to the ones found by Zang and
> Dash on Pd cathodes:
>
> [image: Thumbnail]
> 
>
>
> https://disq.us/url?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lenr-canr.org%2Facrobat%2FZhangWSexcessheat.pdf%3A7KA_o7ur5M6FEDB4muyBW_L_32g=2168707
>
> Lutz further adds:
>
> These craters have been eroded out of the Pd surface by Condensed
> Plasmoides (CPs). It is a typical feature of these craters that they have a
> spherical peak in the middle. The reason for this peak is that the CPs are
> wound horizontally on the surface, which leaves the center of the crater
> untouched by the CP. The eroded Pd is recondensing at the rim of the
> craters like walls of loose material.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 10:45 PM Axil Axil  wrote:
>
>> In the interview recorded in Episode 15 of the Cold Fusion Now! podcast
>> with Dennis Cravens, he describes at about 1:50 in to after 3:10 how his
>> reactor produces holes in the surface of his tube and if the rector is run
>> hard at a high power density, the reactor falls apart. Dennis Cravens also
>> mentions other developers that see the same volcano like holes in their
>> reactor structure.
>>
>> If LENR developers would look closely at the areas in their reactors that
>> are LENR active, they would see all the signs that point to the cause of
>> the LENR reaction. These indicators are seen in many LENR reactors.
>>
>>
>> https://www.coldfusionnow.com/podcast/Ruby-Carat-Dennis-Cravens-Cold-Fusion-Now-015.mp3
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 9:25 PM Jed Rothwell 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Axil Axil  wrote:
>>>
>>>
 *Furthermore, from studying LENR results over the years, it is becoming
 increasingly apparent to me that LENR has a major issue to deal with. LENR
 makes matter and energy disappear. A major problem with LENR reactors is
 that they fall apart over time. This highly corrosive effect that these
 reactors suffer is due to this nasty issue of matter and energy
 degeneration. This degenerative process only gets worse when the power
 output level of the reactor goes up.*

>>> Can you point to any experimental papers describing these problems?
>>>
>>> I have read and copy edited hundreds of papers on cold fusion. Many of
>>> them I did not understand well, especially the theory papers. The
>>> experimental ones I did understand. In the course of reading all this
>>> stuff, I have not seen an evidence for what you say here. Nothing. Your
>>> assertions are entirely imaginary as far as I know. So I do not think we
>>> need to worry about them.
>>>
>>> We have enough real problems in this field. We don't need to worry about
>>> imaginary ones.
>>>
>>>

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to be the precursor to all future devices

[Axil Axil]

Lutz Jaitner has commented on the images of craters found and shared on the
Pd coated Ohmasa vibrator plates

The craters you have depicted are similar to the ones found by Zang and
Dash on Pd cathodes:

[image: Thumbnail]


https://disq.us/url?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lenr-canr.org%2Facrobat%2FZhangWSexcessheat.pdf%3A7KA_o7ur5M6FEDB4muyBW_L_32g=2168707

Lutz further adds:

These craters have been eroded out of the Pd surface by Condensed
Plasmoides (CPs). It is a typical feature of these craters that they have a
spherical peak in the middle. The reason for this peak is that the CPs are
wound horizontally on the surface, which leaves the center of the crater
untouched by the CP. The eroded Pd is recondensing at the rim of the
craters like walls of loose material.



On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 10:45 PM Axil Axil  wrote:

> In the interview recorded in Episode 15 of the Cold Fusion Now! podcast
> with Dennis Cravens, he describes at about 1:50 in to after 3:10 how his
> reactor produces holes in the surface of his tube and if the rector is run
> hard at a high power density, the reactor falls apart. Dennis Cravens also
> mentions other developers that see the same volcano like holes in their
> reactor structure.
>
> If LENR developers would look closely at the areas in their reactors that
> are LENR active, they would see all the signs that point to the cause of
> the LENR reaction. These indicators are seen in many LENR reactors.
>
>
> https://www.coldfusionnow.com/podcast/Ruby-Carat-Dennis-Cravens-Cold-Fusion-Now-015.mp3
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 9:25 PM Jed Rothwell 
> wrote:
>
>> Axil Axil  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> *Furthermore, from studying LENR results over the years, it is becoming
>>> increasingly apparent to me that LENR has a major issue to deal with. LENR
>>> makes matter and energy disappear. A major problem with LENR reactors is
>>> that they fall apart over time. This highly corrosive effect that these
>>> reactors suffer is due to this nasty issue of matter and energy
>>> degeneration. This degenerative process only gets worse when the power
>>> output level of the reactor goes up.*
>>>
>> Can you point to any experimental papers describing these problems?
>>
>> I have read and copy edited hundreds of papers on cold fusion. Many of
>> them I did not understand well, especially the theory papers. The
>> experimental ones I did understand. In the course of reading all this
>> stuff, I have not seen an evidence for what you say here. Nothing. Your
>> assertions are entirely imaginary as far as I know. So I do not think we
>> need to worry about them.
>>
>> We have enough real problems in this field. We don't need to worry about
>> imaginary ones.
>>
>>

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to be the precursor to all future devices

[Axil Axil]

In the interview recorded in Episode 15 of the Cold Fusion Now! podcast
with Dennis Cravens, he describes at about 1:50 in to after 3:10 how his
reactor produces holes in the surface of his tube and if the rector is run
hard at a high power density, the reactor falls apart. Dennis Cravens also
mentions other developers that see the same volcano like holes in their
reactor structure.

If LENR developers would look closely at the areas in their reactors that
are LENR active, they would see all the signs that point to the cause of
the LENR reaction. These indicators are seen in many LENR reactors.

https://www.coldfusionnow.com/podcast/Ruby-Carat-Dennis-Cravens-Cold-Fusion-Now-015.mp3





On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 9:25 PM Jed Rothwell  wrote:

> Axil Axil  wrote:
>
>
>> *Furthermore, from studying LENR results over the years, it is becoming
>> increasingly apparent to me that LENR has a major issue to deal with. LENR
>> makes matter and energy disappear. A major problem with LENR reactors is
>> that they fall apart over time. This highly corrosive effect that these
>> reactors suffer is due to this nasty issue of matter and energy
>> degeneration. This degenerative process only gets worse when the power
>> output level of the reactor goes up.*
>>
> Can you point to any experimental papers describing these problems?
>
> I have read and copy edited hundreds of papers on cold fusion. Many of
> them I did not understand well, especially the theory papers. The
> experimental ones I did understand. In the course of reading all this
> stuff, I have not seen an evidence for what you say here. Nothing. Your
> assertions are entirely imaginary as far as I know. So I do not think we
> need to worry about them.
>
> We have enough real problems in this field. We don't need to worry about
> imaginary ones.
>
>

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to be the precursor to all future devices

[Jed Rothwell]

Axil Axil  wrote:


> *Furthermore, from studying LENR results over the years, it is becoming
> increasingly apparent to me that LENR has a major issue to deal with. LENR
> makes matter and energy disappear. A major problem with LENR reactors is
> that they fall apart over time. This highly corrosive effect that these
> reactors suffer is due to this nasty issue of matter and energy
> degeneration. This degenerative process only gets worse when the power
> output level of the reactor goes up.*
>
Can you point to any experimental papers describing these problems?

I have read and copy edited hundreds of papers on cold fusion. Many of them
I did not understand well, especially the theory papers. The experimental
ones I did understand. In the course of reading all this stuff, I have not
seen an evidence for what you say here. Nothing. Your assertions are
entirely imaginary as far as I know. So I do not think we need to worry
about them.

We have enough real problems in this field. We don't need to worry about
imaginary ones.

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to be the precursor to all future devices

[Axil Axil]

*If you remember some time ago, I was concerned that the LENR reaction
would produce a boatload of muons since Holmlid suggested that LENR might
be based on ultra-dense hydrogen. But over the course of time, this concern
was not well founded, even though it should absolutely be the case. Just
like the absence of gamma rays, positrons, and neutrons, this lack of
products that should accompany any nuclear or sub-nuclear reaction that the
LENR reaction should produce is profoundly confusing.*

*Furthermore, from studying LENR results over the years, it is becoming
increasingly apparent to me that LENR has a major issue to deal with. LENR
makes matter and energy disappear. A major problem with LENR reactors is
that they fall apart over time. This highly corrosive effect that these
reactors suffer is due to this nasty issue of matter and energy
degeneration. This degenerative process only gets worse when the power
output level of the reactor goes up.*

*And yet the amazing contradiction that the LENR reaction presents is that
it does not produce any high energy particles or ionizing radiation. The
question that hangs in the air is where does all that matter and energy go
when the LENR reaction is active?*

 *At this current juncture, the reactor meltdown/corrosion problem has
delayed any LENR application from reaching a successful conclusion. LENR is
highly corrosive of the structure of the reactor as a function of its power
output. Clearly, LENR's ability to corrode the structure of the reactor is
a function of its power output. A low powered LENR reactor will function
for a long time but its usefulness is limited. A high output reactor even
if it is built like a tank does not perform for very long.*

*The lack of nuclear reaction byproducts and the corrosion issue might well
be connected.*

*In addition, I think that transmutation happens when the LENR reaction has
completed. For some unknown reason the LENR reaction in the LION diamond
was episodic. There were three episodes when the LENR reaction came alive.
Each of the episodes of activity produced a different transmutation
product. But at the end of each episode of activity, each time the
identical transmutation product was deposited at the ends of many tunnels.
The miners were all contained inside the tunnels that they excavated. But
they all behaved identically and communicated. They all acted in concert to
transmute carbon into identical elements when they were active.*

*From what we saw how the miners worked inside diamond, the transmuted
elements are held in invisible suspension through QM superposition inside
the flux tube until the LENR reaction had completed. Then the transmuted
elements stabilized into their final form. We saw the diamond disappear as
the miners excavated the tunnel, Then when the LENR reaction finalized, the
transmutated elements appeared at the far end of the tunnel.*

*When I considered what happens to the matter that the miners excavated
from their tunnels, I got confused. There are spaces inside those
completely closed tubes. Where did that matter go? Where did the energy
from transmutation of carbon go? There was a lot of transmutation but very
little if any damage produced by heat evident inside those tubes. The
matter that was removed from those tubes could have supported the energy
needs of a city for a year is it was transformed into energy.*

*I think that transmutation happened when the LENR reaction completed. For
some unknown reason the LENR reaction in the LION diamond was episodic.
There were three episodes when the LENR reaction came alive. Each of the
episodes of activity produced a different transmutation product. But at the
end of each episode of activity, each time the identical transmutation
product was deposited at the ends of many tunnels. The miners were all
contained inside the tunnels that they excavated. But they all behaved
identically and communicated. They all acted in concert to transmute carbon
into identical elements when they were active.*

*Here is my take on this issue. I believe that LENR involves the
interaction of two major cosmological principles: Quantum mechanical
superposition and general relativity. Through looking at the results of
some recent LENR experiments, it appears that during the LENR reaction,
time stops inside the Black EVO as discovered by Ken Shoulders. When LENR
active processes occur, such as transmutation and superposition/tunneling,
they occur under a condition where time is not moving forward. This
superposition proceeds as a macro level quantum mechanical process that is
occurring were both material and energy in bulk is made to dematerialize or
tunnel possibly in a state of coherent superposition. This coherent
material may be removed in a condition that is out of sync with normal
matter and time and being in the state of superposition not able to
interact with its previously normal form except through the force of
gravity. Remaining perpetually coherent, it is a 

[Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely to be the precursor to all future devices

[Jed Rothwell]

I believe that if Mizuno's results are correct, and especially if Ed
Storms' theory is right, this design will be the precursor to all future
devices. As I usually do, I look back at other technologies. The first
transistor was the precursor to all subsequent devices, even though the
methods of making them changed rapidly, and even though the material
changed from germanium to silicon. The first airplane was the precursor to
all subsequent airplanes.

There were many different approaches to building airplanes circa 1900, such
as A. G. Bell, Maxim and Lilienthal. Those were smart people. Their ideas
deserved respect, although the efforts did not make much progress. However,
in 1906 the Wright patent was issued. All successful airplanes after that
have been based on their discovery, which was 3-axis control. Also, all
successful airplanes have wings with chambers similar to this, and similar
length to width ratios. These are very different from Lilienthal and other
early attempts. The Wrights were superb engineers and they had rigorous
proof these were the best chambers and ratios, at the low speed their
airplane was designed for.

In other words, every airplane after 1906 is a descendant evolved from this
design, and all other precursor designs are extinct.

Needless to say, there has been tremendous progress in aviation. There was
tremendous progress between 1908 and 1914. By 1914, there were airplanes
that could fly 6 passengers for hours, going thousands of miles. Outwardly,
they looked completely different from the pusher design of the Wrights,
with the elevator in front. But from the engineering physics point of view,
they were similar. They owed the Wrights royalties for the patent.

If the Mizuno design actually works and it is widely replicated, it will
probably be the starting point for all future designs, just as the 1906
Wright patent design was. But there will be tremendous progress. It is
likely there is fundamentally only one effective design, just as there is
only one way to control an airplane (with 3-axis control). Future designs
may look very different outwardly, but the microscopic morphology and other
details of the surface where the reaction occurs will probably be similar.
Especially if Ed is correct, as I hope he is. Ed tells me he thinks this
morphology can be created with techniques similar to those used to make
microscopic integrated circuits.