[Vo]:Masks are now in production by women in Beaverdale

2020-03-27 Thread Frank Znidarsic
Masks now in production now locally

http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/temp/masks.jpg
Note the pleated design that unfolds over your face.  These made with elastic. 
Future ones may be tie on.  Consists of five layers of cotton.  Cost has 
increased to $5 each.
Show around to get others in production.
Frank Znidarsic

Re: [Vo]:Masks

2020-03-26 Thread Michael Foster
 Well this is Shakespearean, Tempest in a Teapot, Much Ado About Nothing, but 
not dead wrong. What they didn't tell you about using human hair as crosshairs 
in optical instruments is that not only is it too coarse, it suffers from sag 
in high humidity environments. No doubt the gubmint during the war was hoping 
if the hair hadn't suffered the usual abuse, it might work. I can only think 
that they tried it but it didn't work. Still Babnik was nice to volunteer her 
remarkable hair.

Nearly all military optical instruments, binoculars, gunsights, battery 
commanders telescopes and anti-aircraft fire control optics use etched glass 
reticles often with altitude and azimuth markings. Those that don't use the 
glass reticles, use spider web which stays taught in a wide variety of 
environments. I should know, I worked in my father's shop during the 50s where 
he had a contract with the army to fix all of their severely abused optical 
stuff, most of which dated from WWII.
 On Wednesday, March 25, 2020, 08:29:31 PM GMT+1, Frank Znidarsic 
 wrote:  
 
 

Not too sure about women volunteering to grow their hair long to make 
crosshairs for gunsights during WWII, though. I've never heard of that. Most 
women had to cut their hair for safety as they were working in war production 
plants. You know, the Veronica Lake problem. Human hair is too coarse for good 
crosshairs.  How do I know about this?  My father was head of the instrument 
repair division at Camp San Luis Obispo during WWII.  Among other things his 
subordinates had to tend terrariums full of black widows to harvest the web for 
crosshairs. Kind of a creepy job, no? Yeah, I know, far off-topic.
and dead wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Babnik_Brown

  

Re: [Vo]:Masks

2020-03-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
In Atlanta, a large group of people organized over the weekend. They are
sewing mask covers. Not the masks themselves, but covers needed to protect
hospital grade masks so that the masks can be re-used. Normally, they are
only used once, but hospitals are running out. All over the country,
researchers and doctors are finding ways to clean and reuse the masks. So,
they plan to cover the outside with cloth covers, and then sterilize the
masks. See:

https://www.ajc.com/news/mask-sewing-network-built-metro-atlanta-through-social-media/IkmkKifwcPVt7QhNdNQsIL/

Cloth masks made of gauze and cotton are washable. They are much better
than nothing, according to Japanese health officials. The Japanese
government is distributing one to every citizen.

My wife has been making them with a sewing machine. Unfortunately, she ran
out of elastic band. There is none left at Walmart. I went on Amazon and
found out that all elastic band is made in China. An inset photo from one
maker shows a woman wearing a mask. The vendor wrote this plaintive message:

"Attention please: We will send it 3-5 days after you complete your order.
But now is a special period, there will be a delay in logistics, and the
expected delivery time is 20-30 days. If you cannot receive this delivery
time, please do not place an order. Thanks for understanding. Pray for the
great American people to get through this crisis as soon as possible."

This seems emblematic of the whole situation.


Re: [Vo]:Masks

2020-03-25 Thread Frank Znidarsic


Not too sure about women volunteering to grow their hair long to make 
crosshairs for gunsights during WWII, though. I've never heard of that. Most 
women had to cut their hair for safety as they were working in war production 
plants. You know, the Veronica Lake problem. Human hair is too coarse for good 
crosshairs.  How do I know about this?  My father was head of the instrument 
repair division at Camp San Luis Obispo during WWII.  Among other things his 
subordinates had to tend terrariums full of black widows to harvest the web for 
crosshairs. Kind of a creepy job, no? Yeah, I know, far off-topic.
and dead wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Babnik_Brown



Re: [Vo]:Masks

2020-03-25 Thread Michael Foster
I think that's great that these women are volunteering to make these masks. 
Washable is better. We have really become too much the disposable culture.

Not too sure about women volunteering to grow their hair long to make 
crosshairs for gunsights during WWII, though. I've never heard of that. Most 
women had to cut their hair for safety as they were working in war production 
plants. You know, the Veronica Lake problem. Human hair is too coarse for good 
crosshairs.  How do I know about this?  My father was head of the instrument 
repair division at Camp San Luis Obispo during WWII.  Among other things his 
subordinates had to tend terrariums full of black widows to harvest the web for 
crosshairs. Kind of a creepy job, no? Yeah, I know, far off-topic.



[Vo]:Masks

2020-03-25 Thread Frank Znidarsic
I have started to work with some local ladies to make masks.  They are inspired 
by the ones on MASH.  They consist of 5 layers of cotton in a square that ties 
to around your face.  No claim of efficacy is made.  They are washable.
I will have some prototypes to show soon.  No money is being made and they are 
doing this at home and at cost.  I am dong this at a lose as I am trying to 
start some others up soon.
Frank Z

Re: [Vo]:Masks

2020-03-25 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Simple masks are highly efficient if 100% of the population are wearing 
them, as in Japan with almost no infections. They prevent drops from 
spreading!
But they do not fully protect you if you get a drop! Especially the eyes 
are a weak point! Further: If you are out, never touch your face before 
completing 30 seconds hand washing!


J.W.




Am 25.03.20 um 17:46 schrieb Frank Znidarsic:
I have started to work with some local ladies to make masks.  They are 
inspired by the ones on MASH.  They consist of 5 layers of cotton in a 
square that ties to around your face.  No claim of efficacy is made. 
They are washable.


I will have some prototypes to show soon.  No money is being made and 
they are doing this at home and at cost.  I am dong this at a lose as 
I am trying to start some others up soon.


Frank Z



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