Re: [Vo]:[OT] Cyanoacrylate activator: Where did it go?
try searching cyanoacrylate accelerator On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: A couple decades ago I was, for a brief time, a (not very good) hardware design engineer. In the lab, we used cyanoacrylate to glue parts to boards, and we used spray bottles of activator to harden the stuff. And so I learned that Krazy glue and related products, which normally only stick well to fingers, can be made to stick where and when you want them to, if you just use a spritz of activator on it. After that little epiphany, I purchased cyanoacrylate at the local Radio Shack a number of times, and always got hardener with it. Later I purchased some at a hardware store, and again got the hardener with it. The stuff was great; it would stick, no questions asked, to just about anything -- as long as one used the activator. Then a few years went by during which I didn't buy the stuff -- didn't do any projects which needed it, hadn't used up the old stock. And one day I went to the local hardware store and looked for cyanoacrylate with hardener. No luck -- none on the shelves. I asked a clerk; he'd *never* *heard* of hardener for cyanoacrylate! (Of course that just means they hadn't carried it any time in the last couple months, but none the less it was a bit startling.) Later I checked Radio Shack. Same deal -- no hardener, clerks had never heard of the stuff. Hardener is for epoxy, that's all they knew about. I've looked in other stores since; it's always the same. They don't carry it and as far as they know, there is no such thing, and never was. Somebody seems to have erased cyanoacrylate activator from the page of time. Anybody here know what happened? Why'd it get pulled from the market? Does the stuff turn out to make your head swell up and turn purple or something? Or can you get high off of it? (Or have I just been unlucky in 5 out of 5 stores I've tried, and the stuff really is still on the shelves *somewhere*?)
Re: [Vo]:[OT] Cyanoacrylate activator: Where did it go?
leaking pen wrote: try searching cyanoacrylate accelerator Sigh... OK, yes, I should have done that to start with. Actually I rather hoped there was some interesting tale behind the disappearance which someone here would know. So it appears the stuff is still available mail order, from some places -- but why'd it disappear from retail store shelves? 20 years ago it was in the glue section of every hardware store I shopped in. It certainly seems like something happened and I still don't know what. Quote from one page: I finally ran out of Zip Kicker and the hobby shop I purchased it from originally is long gone. All the local hobby shops fail to carry it as well. No explanation, and none of the replies mentioned any explanation; just a statement of what I've already observed. And, I should add, a lot of alternatives for use as accelerators were mentioned, including baking soda and white glue, which I didn't know about. Useful info, maybe.
Re: [Vo]:[OT] Cyanoacrylate activator: Where did it go?
hunh. I've seen it at craft stores, but not hardware. On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: leaking pen wrote: try searching cyanoacrylate accelerator Sigh... OK, yes, I should have done that to start with. Actually I rather hoped there was some interesting tale behind the disappearance which someone here would know. So it appears the stuff is still available mail order, from some places -- but why'd it disappear from retail store shelves? 20 years ago it was in the glue section of every hardware store I shopped in. It certainly seems like something happened and I still don't know what. Quote from one page: I finally ran out of Zip Kicker and the hobby shop I purchased it from originally is long gone. All the local hobby shops fail to carry it as well. No explanation, and none of the replies mentioned any explanation; just a statement of what I've already observed. And, I should add, a lot of alternatives for use as accelerators were mentioned, including baking soda and white glue, which I didn't know about. Useful info, maybe.
Re: [Vo]:[OT] Cyanoacrylate activator: Where did it go?
On May 13, 2009, at 10:17 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: No explanation, and none of the replies mentioned any explanation; just a statement of what I've already observed. The partial disappearance could be due to the fact it can no longer be shipped by USPS air mail? Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
RE: [Vo]:[OT] Cyanoacrylate activator: Where did it go?
Fellow time traveller: Went to the hardware chain store here the other day to get a bag of plaster. They didn't have any, and the clerk wasn't even really sure what it was and got suspicious - asked what I wanted it for. I should have told her I was a terrorist and I was going to jump on a subway train and plaster everybody's feet to the floor so they couldn't get off at their stops. Jeez. -Original Message- From: Stephen A. Lawrence [mailto:sa...@pobox.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 7:47 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:[OT] Cyanoacrylate activator: Where did it go? A couple decades ago I was, for a brief time, a (not very good) hardware design engineer. In the lab, we used snip
Re: [Vo]:[OT] Cyanoacrylate activator: Where did it go?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Rick Monteverde r...@highsurf.com mounted the barricade and roared out: Fellow time traveller: Went to the hardware chain store here the other day to get a bag of plaster. They didn't have any, and the clerk wasn't even really sure what it was and got suspicious - asked what I wanted it for. I should have told her I was a terrorist and I was going to jump on a subway train and plaster everybody's feet to the floor so they couldn't get off at their stops. Jeez. Stupid people are dangerous. Good thing you didn't mention Cold Fusion. - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes. ALL power to the councils and communes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkoLK8UACgkQXo3EtEYbt3E9SgCfdOpbqSuMCidhr9IUuAQH/Ip3 VE4AoOX0fuPSYCbF7rF0NEHgkn8a0wnP =Tx/0 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
RE: [Vo]:[OT] Cyanoacrylate activator: Where did it go?
Plaster of paris. Sounds European and vaguely seditious, I guess. - R. -Original Message- From: leaking pen [mailto:itsat...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 10:16 AM To: r...@highsurf.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Cyanoacrylate activator: Where did it go? plaster of paris plaster, or concrete plaster? On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Rick Monteverde r...@highsurf.com wrote: Fellow time traveller: Went to the hardware chain store here the other day to get a bag of plaster. They didn't have any, and the clerk wasn't even really sure what it was and got suspicious - asked what I wanted it for. I should have told her I was a terrorist and I was going to jump on a subway train and plaster everybody's feet to the floor so they couldn't get off at their stops. Jeez. -Original Message- From: Stephen A. Lawrence [mailto:sa...@pobox.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 7:47 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:[OT] Cyanoacrylate activator: Where did it go? A couple decades ago I was, for a brief time, a (not very good) hardware design engineer. In the lab, we used snip
Re: [Vo]:[OT] Cyanoacrylate activator: Where did it go?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Rick Monteverde r...@highsurf.com mounted the barricade and roared out: Plaster of paris. Sounds European and vaguely seditious, I guess. - R. And Paris is where they have all those there revolutions -- and (GASP!) them revolutionaries too..! And they hate our Freedom (Fries) there in France as well -- let's not forget that, either. Close the borders! Take my freedoms, in fact! Please!! What can we say in a world where Bull O'Really And Rash Limburger are our heroes..? - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes. ALL power to the councils and communes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkoLQwcACgkQXo3EtEYbt3GZWQCfeEhNau+WypaR2YhlTUrsPmRE yi0AoPEOabkUUrNZ6oEYJZJZP5j0dD2v =C8f7 -END PGP SIGNATURE-