Re: [Vo]:[OT] Cyanoacrylate activator: Where did it go?

2009-05-13 Thread leaking pen
try searching cyanoacrylate accelerator

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
 A couple decades ago I was, for a brief time, a (not very good) hardware
 design engineer.  In the lab, we used cyanoacrylate to glue parts to
 boards, and we used spray bottles of activator to harden the stuff.  And
 so I learned that Krazy glue and related products, which normally only
 stick well to fingers, can be made to stick where and when you want them
 to, if you just use a spritz of activator on it.

 After that little epiphany, I purchased cyanoacrylate at the local Radio
 Shack a number of times, and always got hardener with it.  Later I
 purchased some at a hardware store, and again got the hardener with it.
  The stuff was great; it would stick, no questions asked, to just about
 anything -- as long as one used the activator.

 Then a few years went by during which I didn't buy the stuff -- didn't
 do any projects which needed it, hadn't used up the old stock.

 And one day I went to the local hardware store and looked for
 cyanoacrylate with hardener.  No luck -- none on the shelves.  I asked a
 clerk; he'd *never* *heard* of hardener for cyanoacrylate!  (Of course
 that just means they hadn't carried it any time in the last couple
 months, but none the less it was a bit startling.)

 Later I checked Radio Shack.  Same deal -- no hardener, clerks had never
 heard of the stuff.  Hardener is for epoxy, that's all they knew about.

 I've looked in other stores since; it's always the same. They don't
 carry it and as far as they know, there is no such thing, and never was.

 Somebody seems to have erased cyanoacrylate activator from the page of
 time.  Anybody here know what happened?

 Why'd it get pulled from the market?  Does the stuff turn out to make
 your head swell up and turn purple or something?  Or can you get high
 off of it?

 (Or have I just been unlucky in 5 out of 5 stores I've tried, and the
 stuff really is still on the shelves *somewhere*?)





Re: [Vo]:[OT] Cyanoacrylate activator: Where did it go?

2009-05-13 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence


leaking pen wrote:
 try searching cyanoacrylate accelerator

Sigh... OK, yes, I should have done that to start with.  Actually I
rather hoped there was some interesting tale behind the disappearance
which someone here would know.

So it appears the stuff is still available mail order, from some places
-- but why'd it disappear from retail store shelves?  20 years ago it
was in the glue section of every hardware store I shopped in.  It
certainly seems like something happened and I still don't know what.
Quote from one page:

I finally ran out of Zip Kicker and the hobby shop I purchased it from
originally is long gone. All the local hobby shops fail to carry it as
well.

No explanation, and none of the replies mentioned any explanation; just
a statement of what I've already observed.

And, I should add, a lot of alternatives for use as accelerators were
mentioned, including baking soda and white glue, which I didn't know
about.  Useful info, maybe.




Re: [Vo]:[OT] Cyanoacrylate activator: Where did it go?

2009-05-13 Thread leaking pen
hunh. I've seen it at craft stores, but not hardware.

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:


 leaking pen wrote:
 try searching cyanoacrylate accelerator

 Sigh... OK, yes, I should have done that to start with.  Actually I
 rather hoped there was some interesting tale behind the disappearance
 which someone here would know.

 So it appears the stuff is still available mail order, from some places
 -- but why'd it disappear from retail store shelves?  20 years ago it
 was in the glue section of every hardware store I shopped in.  It
 certainly seems like something happened and I still don't know what.
 Quote from one page:

 I finally ran out of Zip Kicker and the hobby shop I purchased it from
 originally is long gone. All the local hobby shops fail to carry it as
 well.

 No explanation, and none of the replies mentioned any explanation; just
 a statement of what I've already observed.

 And, I should add, a lot of alternatives for use as accelerators were
 mentioned, including baking soda and white glue, which I didn't know
 about.  Useful info, maybe.






Re: [Vo]:[OT] Cyanoacrylate activator: Where did it go?

2009-05-13 Thread Horace Heffner


On May 13, 2009, at 10:17 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:


No explanation, and none of the replies mentioned any explanation;  
just

a statement of what I've already observed.



The partial disappearance could be due to the fact it can no longer  
be shipped by USPS air mail?


Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/






RE: [Vo]:[OT] Cyanoacrylate activator: Where did it go?

2009-05-13 Thread Rick Monteverde
Fellow time traveller:

Went to the hardware chain store here the other day to get a bag of plaster.
They didn't have any, and the clerk wasn't even really sure what it was and
got suspicious - asked what I wanted it for. I should have told her I was a
terrorist and I was going to jump on a subway train and plaster everybody's
feet to the floor so they couldn't get off at their stops. 

Jeez.

 -Original Message-
 From: Stephen A. Lawrence [mailto:sa...@pobox.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 7:47 AM
 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Subject: [Vo]:[OT] Cyanoacrylate activator: Where did it go?
 
 A couple decades ago I was, for a brief time, a (not very 
 good) hardware design engineer.  In the lab, we used 
snip



Re: [Vo]:[OT] Cyanoacrylate activator: Where did it go?

2009-05-13 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1


As the smoke cleared, Rick Monteverde r...@highsurf.com
mounted the barricade and roared out:

 Fellow time traveller:
 
 Went to the hardware chain store here the other day to get a bag of
 plaster.  They didn't have any, and the clerk wasn't even really sure
 what it was and got suspicious - asked what I wanted it for. I should
 have told her I was a terrorist and I was going to jump on a subway
 train and plaster everybody's feet to the floor so they couldn't get
 off at their stops. 
 
 Jeez.

Stupid people are dangerous.

Good thing you didn't mention Cold Fusion.


- -- grok.





- -- 
Build the North America-wide General Strike.

TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas.
TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes.
ALL power to the councils and communes.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)

iEYEARECAAYFAkoLK8UACgkQXo3EtEYbt3E9SgCfdOpbqSuMCidhr9IUuAQH/Ip3
VE4AoOX0fuPSYCbF7rF0NEHgkn8a0wnP
=Tx/0
-END PGP SIGNATURE-



RE: [Vo]:[OT] Cyanoacrylate activator: Where did it go?

2009-05-13 Thread Rick Monteverde
Plaster of paris. Sounds European and vaguely seditious, I guess.

- R.

 -Original Message-
 From: leaking pen [mailto:itsat...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 10:16 AM
 To: r...@highsurf.com
 Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Cyanoacrylate activator: Where did it go?
 
 plaster of paris plaster, or concrete plaster?
 
 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Rick Monteverde 
 r...@highsurf.com wrote:
  Fellow time traveller:
 
  Went to the hardware chain store here the other day to get 
 a bag of plaster.
  They didn't have any, and the clerk wasn't even really sure what it 
  was and got suspicious - asked what I wanted it for. I should have 
  told her I was a terrorist and I was going to jump on a 
 subway train 
  and plaster everybody's feet to the floor so they couldn't 
 get off at their stops.
 
  Jeez.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Stephen A. Lawrence [mailto:sa...@pobox.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 7:47 AM
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
  Subject: [Vo]:[OT] Cyanoacrylate activator: Where did it go?
 
  A couple decades ago I was, for a brief time, a (not very
  good) hardware design engineer.  In the lab, we used
  snip
 
 
 



Re: [Vo]:[OT] Cyanoacrylate activator: Where did it go?

2009-05-13 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1


As the smoke cleared, Rick Monteverde r...@highsurf.com
mounted the barricade and roared out:

 Plaster of paris. Sounds European and vaguely seditious, I guess.
 
 - R.

And Paris is where they have all those there revolutions -- and (GASP!)
them revolutionaries too..! And they hate our Freedom (Fries) there in
France as well -- let's not forget that, either. Close the borders! Take
my freedoms, in fact! Please!!


What can we say in a world where Bull O'Really And Rash Limburger are
our heroes..?


- -- grok.








- -- 
Build the North America-wide General Strike.

TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas.
TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes.
ALL power to the councils and communes.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)

iEYEARECAAYFAkoLQwcACgkQXo3EtEYbt3GZWQCfeEhNau+WypaR2YhlTUrsPmRE
yi0AoPEOabkUUrNZ6oEYJZJZP5j0dD2v
=C8f7
-END PGP SIGNATURE-