Re: [Vserver] Re: keeping a mirror machine synched

2007-02-28 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 06:49:03AM +, Ticktac UK wrote:
 I used to run a HA NFS configuration using a dual mini-ITX system in
 1U (with a Travla C147 case). The synch speed sucked howver, and the
 drives (300 GB Maxtors) ran too hot and died rather soon. (I RMAed
 them, but one RMAed one is acting up as well, so I'm back to mice and
 pumpkin -- at least the root RAID is working).
 
 In our mini-ITX's we started to use Seagates as the Maxtors were
 dropping down like flys. Although now I know they are one and the
 same, we still opt for Seagates.

 Although Maxtor always replaced them with no problems, its the hassle
 :)

for harddisks, low temperature is the secret of
long life (and stable env. conditions, of course)

hddtemp is a nice tool to figure the disk temp
for most newer drives, and as a rule of the thumb,
everything below 40°C is considered fine and all
above 50°C is considered deadly ...

HTH,
Herbert

 Darren
 
 
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Re: [Vserver] Re: keeping a mirror machine synched

2007-02-28 Thread Ticktac UK

 In our mini-ITX's we started to use Seagates as the Maxtors were
 dropping down like flys. Although now I know they are one and the
 same, we still opt for Seagates.

 Although Maxtor always replaced them with no problems, its the hassle
 :)

for harddisks, low temperature is the secret of
long life (and stable env. conditions, of course)

hddtemp is a nice tool to figure the disk temp
for most newer drives, and as a rule of the thumb,
everything below 40°C is considered fine and all
above 50°C is considered deadly ...


Yeah, although there was a google report out recently that said cooler 
drives failed quicker (go figure!)


Most of our drives are anything from 35-45, but have a few at the 50 mark. 
But have been there for 2 years and not failed. Although we tend to do disk 
swaps every 12 months anyway. It saves a lot of heart ache


Darren


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Re: [Vserver] Re: keeping a mirror machine synched

2007-02-28 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 04:15:08PM +0100, Herbert Poetzl wrote:

 for harddisks, low temperature is the secret of
 long life (and stable env. conditions, of course)

There's a reasonably interesting recent paper
from Google labs which is making the rounds
http://labs.google.com/papers/disk_failures.pdf

You might find some of the results surprising.
 
 hddtemp is a nice tool to figure the disk temp
 for most newer drives, and as a rule of the thumb,
 everything below 40°C is considered fine and all
 above 50°C is considered deadly ...

Thanks for the pointer, that's a nice addition to 
smartmontools and mdadm email notification.

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Re: [Vserver] Re: keeping a mirror machine synched

2007-02-27 Thread Martin Fick
--- Herbert Poetzl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 02:22:14PM -0800, Martin
 Fick wrote:
   From: Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   ...I also have an identically configured second
 such machine.
...
   Apart from /usr/local/etc/vservers/ is there
   anything else I should synch?
   
  You could also use drbd and heartbeat to do the
  mirroring and have active failover of your
  vserver!  I use a custom heartbeat script for
  vservers to do this, seems to work well,
 
 well, maybe you want to share it then, or
 even do some wiki page on how to do this ...

OK, here is a start:

  http://linux-vserver.org/Fail-over

This does not yet have any specifics for drbd, but
rather is an explanation of how one can use heartbeat
to start and stop vservers along with a link to my ocf
script (is there a place for scripts?)  Would more
details about setting up drbd be needed?  I use a
custom ocf script for that too since I could never get
the one delivered with heartbeat to work for more than
one drbd 7 device (not sure this is the right forum
for that)?

Hope it helps,

-Martin



 

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RE: [Vserver] Re: keeping a mirror machine synched

2007-02-27 Thread Ticktac UK

I used to run a HA NFS configuration using a dual mini-ITX
system in 1U (with a Travla C147 case). The synch speed sucked
howver, and the drives (300 GB Maxtors) ran too hot and died rather soon.
(I RMAed them, but one RMAed one is acting up as well, so I'm
back to mice and pumpkin -- at least the root RAID is working).


In our mini-ITX's we started to use Seagates as the Maxtors were dropping 
down like flys. Although now I know they are one and the same, we still opt 
for Seagates.


Although Maxtor always replaced them with no problems, its the hassle :)

Darren


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