Re: iPad and Flash/iPad in France

2011-06-08 Thread Laura Webb

Hi Ronni

I had a feeling that would be the answer but aware that so often there seems to 
be a work around thought it worth a try. It won't stop me continuing to enjoy 
the iPad and I'm certainly not interested in trying anything that has serious 
limitations.

Many thanks
Kind regards
Laura

On 08/06/2011, at 11:38 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 
 Hi Laura,
 
 On 08/06/2011, at 9:18 AM, Laura Webb wrote:
 
 
 Good morning all
 
 Two questions here.
 
 Firstly, is there any way around the lack of Flash on the iPad? I use an on 
 line language course that requires Flash and get very frustrated that I 
 can't use the same programme on the iPad.
 
 The iPad does not and ‘most’ probably never will support Flash. 
 The iPad supports HTML5 Video.
 
 
 There are a few 'work arounds’, but they all have serious limitations.
 When you buy an iPad, you implicitly accept that you'll never be able to play 
 Flash, Apple never made a secret of this.
 
 You can try Skyfire ... some like it most don't. 
 
 http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/11/skyfire-ios-app/
 
 http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/28/ipad-brightcove-videos-html5/
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.6.7 Snow Leopard
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 
 Secondly, a couple of months someone on the List asked me to report back on 
 my experiences using iPad in France. I thought I had carefully put a 
 reminder in iCal to deal with this on my return. Not sure what happened but 
 the reminder is no longer there and I'm now not sure who was asking the 
 question. Was it Brett? If the person concerned would like to contact me off 
 list I can go into more detail.
 
 Put simply there is no problem at all in buying a French Micro SIM for the 
 iPad. I bought mine from an Orange Store at the same time as I purchased a 
 french SIM for my mobile phone. Depending on where someone is staying, the 
 French SIM for the iPad is not all that necessary. There are many hot spots 
 at cafés and the few hotels I stayed at all had free WiFi. I was based in 
 one town for three weeks and the accommodation I had came with wireless 
 access. My reason for buying the French micro SIM was to give me complete 
 independence for internet connection.  I'm assured that the iPad SIM card 
 will remain valid for six months which should cover my next visit in 
 September. That remains to be seen!!
 
 I have always taken my MacBook with me when travelling but this time having 
 my iPad with me was sheer joy and reminded me of comments made by Susan some 
 time ago when she too had experienced the pleasure of travelling overseas 
 with her iPad, 
 
 Best wishes
 Laura
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Sign or Encrypt Email Messages

2011-06-08 Thread Rob Davies

Morning,

Just a side note this does not stop SPAM as the header cannot be encrypted, 
some user information is visible. 
Data is protected with the necessary keys as Ronnie explained so eloquently.
ISP's, providers of email services, software companies need to change SMTP 
ports from 25 to 465 or 587 (Authenticated) for total encrypted email to be 
achieved.
Along with 993 or 994 for IMAP and POP servers.
But, this approach also faulty as it depends on what happens other side of 
server.
i.e Connection is SSL tunnelled through use of ports to provider, but other 
server receiving may not be. So, it gets sent open.

A solution as most banks are doing is provide secure Message Board 
environments;  which can link into email via webmail for sensitive information, 
which deals with email in a closed loop. Hence, supposedly secure?? Allows only 
import no export out of loop.

A myriad of problems with solutions, but are they worth effort, time, and 
ultimately COST???
Notice how banks are charging for this privilege, and other providers also, for 
contacting via electronic means?

Original post questions ease of creation for email accounts, this 
authentication process challenges such a creation. 
Whilst offering owners of server control over whom can authenticate, and 
verification of such? 

Cheers!
`RobD...

On 08Jun2011, at 10:05 am, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi John,
 
 I’ve changed my reply a more appropriate Subject Heading.
 




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Re: 114 Things You Should Know About Apple's New Offerings

2011-06-08 Thread Pat
My first thought about upgrading to OS 10.7 is, 'Will it play nice with my 
existing 3rd party software, e.g. Photoshop, Parallels, and all the other 
necessities?'  I will probably wait to hear about experiences other people have.

Pat


On 08/06/2011, at 9:59 AM, Ashley Mulder wrote:

 To make it easier to find the link and make it easier to read
 
 http://www.webpronews.com/mac-os-x-lion-ios-5-icloud-apple-2011-06
 
 cheers
 Ash
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Re: How to change HD name of MDP after Import from PowerBookG4

2011-06-08 Thread Matt Falvey
Hi Ronni, I did follow the instructions step by step and no brackets. I have 
taken a Screen shot of the Systems preferences Sharing page and you can see 
that the name has changed successfully. at aft://MBP/ or MBP  I went back 
over the last past of the instructions again and restated the MBP and turned 
the Modem off, Things have stayed the same.  

But I am glad you referred back to it because if you look at the Shared 
Folder's: on the MBP right in the middle under File Sharing : On you will see 
Matt Falvey Public Folder (with a normal folder icon) and underneath it 
PowerBookG4 HD (with a HD icon), that is exactly what is turning up on the iMac 
once I open up the NetworkMBPConnect as - on the iMac.  

Now I noticed underneath I have the + and - icons, would it be appropriate to 
delete the PowerBookG4 HD from this Shared Folder, presuming it is now NOT the 
actual MBP HD and that will get rid of it for ever? But then if it is not the 
actual MBP HD by another name, why isn't that showing up there in its own right 
under its own name?  (Just checked the Imac and the HD name and the name in the 
Shared Folders is the same, .)

So we have the situation of on the MBP in System preferences under Shared 
Folders: the MBP being described as PowerBookG4 HD and if you then look at the 
imac on the Finder window under Shared it has a little (iMac) symbol and MBP. 
But once you try to launch it on Network you get the two options as previously 
described.

More confusion. I will email the Screen shots privately as they are not allowed 
on Wamug. 

Matt

On 08/06/2011, at 1:53 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Matt,
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Matt Falvey mmfal...@bigpond.net.au
 Date: 8 June 2011 11:57:12 AM AWST
 To: Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com
 Subject: Re: How to change HD name of MDP after Import from PowerBookG4
 
 Hi Ronni, Okay I did everything. I had to go to the terminal steps 7-8 as 
 the old PowerBookG4 was still showing up.  
 
 Now I wasn't really sure of what reboot the Mac meant in 9., was it 
 referring to something in Terminal or restarting the Mac. I couldn't find 
 anything in Terminal help concerning rebooting so I took it to mean 
 restarting the Mac? 
 
 Yes, “Reboot the Mac” meant “Restart the Mac”.
 
 Nor could I find out 100% about rebooting the home router. I have a Thompson 
 TG482 with Bigpond and I checked that it is linked via a DNS Servers - no 
 10.0.0.138 and Search Domain - Bigpond on the Airport Network. I checked the 
 manual and could not really see anything about a reboot button. In the front 
 of it there is a Wi-Fi Protected Setup button on the front of it, which 
 seems to reset the system for two minutes, while it searches for wireless 
 clients that are in registration mode so I guess that may be a type of 
 reboot?
 
 If it doesn’t have a restart function, the Thomson TG482 has a power button 
 beside the power lead connection, switch it OFF then wait a couple of Minutes 
 and then switch ON again.
 
 Anyway I did both of them and when I opened up my iMac to check what we had 
 on the Finder, MBP was the only one that showed up I thought you bewtie,
 
 So the NEW name MBP is showing under “Shared” in a Finder Window?
 
 In System Preferences  Sharing - File Sharing - Computer Name: MBP   
 underneath is Computers on your local network can access your computer at: 
 MBP-HD.local  is showing there (Local Hostname)?
 
 but when I went to GoNetworkMBPConnect as: the two options were Matt 
 Falvey's Public Folder and PowerBookG4 HD. It was still there.
 
 You sure to entered the NEW MBP name Terminal command as shown with ‘no 
 brackets’ in the PDF? 
 and flushed the DNS cache as shown in the PDF?
 
 Now I have made sure that the other, the actual PowerBookG4 laptop is not 
 on, so it is not picking up any signal from that.
 
 Sorry to keep bothering you but if you have any other ideas of what to do I 
 would be grateful and once we have sorted it I will then post back to Wamug.
 
 I posted back to WAMUG Matt as someone else might be able to help you, as I’m 
 fairly busy on clients work and might not be able to respond as quickly.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni 
 
 
   
 On 08/06/2011, at 10:20 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 You might find, you don’t need to use the Terminal part. I have not always 
 found I have had to use Terminal.
 If the Computer name  hostname changes to the new name after doing Steps 1 
 to 6, you don’t need to do the Terminal part (Steps 7-8).
 Do Step 9 though.
 
 Let WAMUG know how you get on please. I have to rush out to clients now, 
 but will be back later.
 
 
 How To Change Computer Name In Snow Leopard.pdf
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 08/06/2011, at 9:50 AM, Matt Falvey wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, yes I would appreciate the pdf particularly the screen shots as 
 once Terminal is mentioned I kind of freeze. I received your first reply 
 yesterday just before heading off to afternoon shift and left trying 
 anything till this morning, glad I did as I just 

Re: How to change HD name of MDP after Import from PowerBookG4

2011-06-08 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Matt,

On 08/06/2011, at 2:57 PM, Matt Falvey wrote:

 Hi Ronni, I did follow the instructions step by step and no brackets.

Yes, I see by your screenshot you have ;-)

 I have taken a Screen shot of the Systems preferences Sharing page and you 
 can see that the name has changed successfully. at aft://MBP/ or MBP  I 
 went back over the last past of the instructions again and restated the MBP 
 and turned the Modem off, Things have stayed the same.  
 
 But I am glad you referred back to it because if you look at the Shared 
 Folder's: on the MBP right in the middle under File Sharing : On you will 
 see Matt Falvey Public Folder (with a normal folder icon) and underneath it 
 PowerBookG4 HD (with a HD icon), that is exactly what is turning up on the 
 iMac once I open up the NetworkMBPConnect as - on the iMac.  

In the Screenshot you sent me of System Preferences  “Sharing” I notice two 
things wrong.
1. Under Shared Folders: Beside the Matt Falvey  - Users: Matt Falvey  - Read  
Write (which is correct)

   Unknown User (Incorrect, should be Staff)  Read only 
(which is correct)

Everyone  - Read  Write (is correct)
 
 Now I noticed underneath I have the + and - icons, would it be appropriate to 
 delete the PowerBookG4 HD from this Shared Folder, presuming it is now NOT 
 the actual MBP HD and that will get rid of it for ever?

By your screenshot, you are sharing ‘File Sharing  ‘Printer Sharing’, so 
select the PowerBookG4 HD  use the - to stop sharing it.
You can always + it again if you find it is actually the MBP HD.

 But then if it is not the actual MBP HD by another name, why isn't that 
 showing up there in its own right under its own name?  (Just checked the Imac 
 and the HD name and the name in the Shared Folders is the same, .)

Please send me a screenshot “Offlist of this.
 
 So we have the situation of on the MBP in System preferences under Shared 
 Folders: the MBP being described as PowerBookG4 HD and if you then look at 
 the imac on the Finder window under Shared it has a little (iMac) symbol and 
 MBP. But once you try to launch it on Network you get the two options as 
 previously described.

I’m concerned as to how you transferred  what you transferred across to your 
Daughter’s MBP  did the Set Up. 
Was it her User Account your transferred or ?

 More confusion. I will email the Screen shots privately as they are not 
 allowed on Wamug. 

Thanks for sending the screenshots. I’ll email a screenshot of my Sharing to 
you “Offlist” so you can see that the “Unknown User” should be “Staff”.

I’ll get back to you tomorrow as I have to go out now.

Cheers,
Ronni
 
 On 08/06/2011, at 1:53 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Matt,
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Matt Falvey mmfal...@bigpond.net.au
 Date: 8 June 2011 11:57:12 AM AWST
 To: Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com
 Subject: Re: How to change HD name of MDP after Import from PowerBookG4
 
 Hi Ronni, Okay I did everything. I had to go to the terminal steps 7-8 as 
 the old PowerBookG4 was still showing up.  
 
 Now I wasn't really sure of what reboot the Mac meant in 9., was it 
 referring to something in Terminal or restarting the Mac. I couldn't find 
 anything in Terminal help concerning rebooting so I took it to mean 
 restarting the Mac? 
 
 Yes, “Reboot the Mac” meant “Restart the Mac”.
 
 Nor could I find out 100% about rebooting the home router. I have a 
 Thompson TG482 with Bigpond and I checked that it is linked via a DNS 
 Servers - no 10.0.0.138 and Search Domain - Bigpond on the Airport Network. 
 I checked the manual and could not really see anything about a reboot 
 button. In the front of it there is a Wi-Fi Protected Setup button on the 
 front of it, which seems to reset the system for two minutes, while it 
 searches for wireless clients that are in registration mode so I guess 
 that may be a type of reboot?
 
 If it doesn’t have a restart function, the Thomson TG482 has a power button 
 beside the power lead connection, switch it OFF then wait a couple of 
 Minutes and then switch ON again.
 
 Anyway I did both of them and when I opened up my iMac to check what we had 
 on the Finder, MBP was the only one that showed up I thought you bewtie,
 
 So the NEW name MBP is showing under “Shared” in a Finder Window?
 
 In System Preferences  Sharing - File Sharing - Computer Name: MBP   
 underneath is Computers on your local network can access your computer at: 
 MBP-HD.local  is showing there (Local Hostname)?
 
 but when I went to GoNetworkMBPConnect as: the two options were Matt 
 Falvey's Public Folder and PowerBookG4 HD. It was still there.
 
 You sure to entered the NEW MBP name Terminal command as shown with ‘no 
 brackets’ in the PDF? 
 and flushed the DNS cache as shown in the PDF?
 
 Now I have made sure that the 

Re: Lion available in July

2011-06-08 Thread Pedro

Evening all

I feel your pain Ronni

I have three machines in this household to update and my Internet in painfully 
slow thanks to the aging copper wires and the distance I am from the closest 
exchange

I wonder if this link will be of any help

http://www.tuaw.com/2011/06/07/how-to-burn-a-lion-boot-disc/

Perhaps some of our Perth members would rent out their super fast ADSL2+ to us 
poor rural dwellers for a small fee, he he 

Cheers

iPadro


On 07/06/2011, at 8:44 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 
 Yes Daniel,
 
 From what I have so far read … I’m NOT happy. 
 The things I did NOT want to happen, but felt would happen … have happened! 
 ;-(
 
 Major upgrades direct  only from the App Store is not what I wanted, 
 especially for some of my clients.
 Some of my country clients have slow Networks  small download limits. I 
 often need to download the updates on my connection  place onto an external 
 drive so I can install for them.
 
 I’ll reserve my final judgement until more information becomes available.
 
 We MobileMe members from dot.mac days have already received emails informing 
 us of the change to iCloud.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 07/06/2011, at 2:53 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
 
 
 On 7/6/11 1:42 AM, cm cm200...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Daniel,
 
 The following is a cut-and-paste from the Mac Rumuours live coverage of the
 WWDC keynote address which I was silly enough to stay up for. The excerpt is
 best read from bottom to top to follow the time sequence. I'll have an
 espresso thanks. :-D
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 10:38 am Available for everyone else in July
 10:38 am New dev preview today.
 10:37 am $29.99
 10:37 am Buy once. Install on all macs like all Mac app store apps.
 10:37 am 4Gb
 10:37 am Lion available only on Mac App Store
 
 
 One thing that annoys me with this,...and this is just my personal
 opinion,...but for people that are on small downloads are being penalised.
 I know some clients that have 2GB limits.
 How are they to get a 4GB download??
 And sometimes with it charged at excess rates of 15c/MB that makes the
 remainder 2GB of the download costing them about $300 if they don't realise.
 As it's purchased through the Mac App Store, then it's not like you burn it
 DVD for them or something.
 
 Maybe I'm missing something here, and more info will become available later.
 Sure, maybe for the US where download limits are large and internet is
 cheap. But unfortunately we still have some low limits here in Australia.
 
 Again, maybe I'm missing something, or I'm not keeping up with the times
 but I just think there should be a couple of options. For those that don't
 realise or unsure about it, doesn't it leave them out of the loop for Lion?
 
 I suppose the other problem I see with this, is if you have to download it
 is that some clients don't want to do that. They feel more comfortable with
 hiring someone to come out and do it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to
 sound like I'm complaining about a loss of income or anything. I just know
 that for some, they may not feel comfortable in downloading and installing.
 They prefer to call me out to do it. I can't now go out and say,..oh, well I
 have to sit here for a couple of hours while this downloads.
 Sure I could say,..well start it downloading and call me when it's finished
 if you have any problems.
 I'm guessing that once it's downloaded you can burn the dmg file to install
 it, but then you wouldn't be able to do that as a) it wouldn't have been
 paid for, for another client and b) wont' give correct download figures to
 Apple.
 Maybe there will be a pay but don't download option.
 
 I guess time will tell.
 Just a couple of things that sprung to mind when I saw it. I mentioned it to
 another friend of mine who was online at the time and they said, oh, guess
 I'll have to watch my downloads for that month as I won't have much of my
 allowance. So really, they are sort of being penalised in a way.
 But, as mentioned, if it can be paid for and not downloaded, that may be a
 work around. :o)
 
 Oh well,...Im' sure as more info comes out we'll know. :o)
 On that note,..time for some sleep I think,..the iCloud info is still
 scrolling through MacRumors,...but I'll read the rest in the morning. Have
 to be up in 3 hours,..sigh.
 
 Some of the iCloud stuff sounds cool. :o)
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 ---
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 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au
 Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 
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Re: Lion available in July

2011-06-08 Thread Ronda Brown
Thanks for the link Pedro,

Egg Freckles has some interesting Notes written on his Newton ;-)
He is a former Mac Genius.
http://eggfreckles.net/tech/lions-lesser-known-features/

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 08/06/2011, at 6:35 PM, Pedro pfow...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 
 Evening all
 
 I feel your pain Ronni
 
 I have three machines in this household to update and my Internet in 
 painfully slow thanks to the aging copper wires and the distance I am from 
 the closest exchange
 
 I wonder if this link will be of any help
 
 http://www.tuaw.com/2011/06/07/how-to-burn-a-lion-boot-disc/
 
 Perhaps some of our Perth members would rent out their super fast ADSL2+ to 
 us poor rural dwellers for a small fee, he he 
 
 Cheers
 
 iPadro
 
 
 On 07/06/2011, at 8:44 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 
 Yes Daniel,
 
 From what I have so far read … I’m NOT happy. 
 The things I did NOT want to happen, but felt would happen … have happened! 
 ;-(
 
 Major upgrades direct  only from the App Store is not what I wanted, 
 especially for some of my clients.
 Some of my country clients have slow Networks  small download limits. I 
 often need to download the updates on my connection  place onto an external 
 drive so I can install for them.
 
 I’ll reserve my final judgement until more information becomes available.
 
 We MobileMe members from dot.mac days have already received emails informing 
 us of the change to iCloud.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 07/06/2011, at 2:53 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
 
 
 On 7/6/11 1:42 AM, cm cm200...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Daniel,
 
 The following is a cut-and-paste from the Mac Rumuours live coverage of the
 WWDC keynote address which I was silly enough to stay up for. The excerpt 
 is
 best read from bottom to top to follow the time sequence. I'll have an
 espresso thanks. :-D
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 10:38 am Available for everyone else in July
 10:38 am New dev preview today.
 10:37 am $29.99
 10:37 am Buy once. Install on all macs like all Mac app store apps.
 10:37 am 4Gb
 10:37 am Lion available only on Mac App Store
 
 
 One thing that annoys me with this,...and this is just my personal
 opinion,...but for people that are on small downloads are being penalised.
 I know some clients that have 2GB limits.
 How are they to get a 4GB download??
 And sometimes with it charged at excess rates of 15c/MB that makes the
 remainder 2GB of the download costing them about $300 if they don't realise.
 As it's purchased through the Mac App Store, then it's not like you burn it
 DVD for them or something.
 
 Maybe I'm missing something here, and more info will become available later.
 Sure, maybe for the US where download limits are large and internet is
 cheap. But unfortunately we still have some low limits here in Australia.
 
 Again, maybe I'm missing something, or I'm not keeping up with the times
 but I just think there should be a couple of options. For those that don't
 realise or unsure about it, doesn't it leave them out of the loop for Lion?
 
 I suppose the other problem I see with this, is if you have to download it
 is that some clients don't want to do that. They feel more comfortable with
 hiring someone to come out and do it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to
 sound like I'm complaining about a loss of income or anything. I just know
 that for some, they may not feel comfortable in downloading and installing.
 They prefer to call me out to do it. I can't now go out and say,..oh, well I
 have to sit here for a couple of hours while this downloads.
 Sure I could say,..well start it downloading and call me when it's finished
 if you have any problems.
 I'm guessing that once it's downloaded you can burn the dmg file to install
 it, but then you wouldn't be able to do that as a) it wouldn't have been
 paid for, for another client and b) wont' give correct download figures to
 Apple.
 Maybe there will be a pay but don't download option.
 
 I guess time will tell.
 Just a couple of things that sprung to mind when I saw it. I mentioned it to
 another friend of mine who was online at the time and they said, oh, guess
 I'll have to watch my downloads for that month as I won't have much of my
 allowance. So really, they are sort of being penalised in a way.
 But, as mentioned, if it can be paid for and not downloaded, that may be a
 work around. :o)
 
 Oh well,...Im' sure as more info comes out we'll know. :o)
 On that note,..time for some sleep I think,..the iCloud info is still
 scrolling through MacRumors,...but I'll read the rest in the morning. Have
 to be up in 3 hours,..sigh.
 
 Some of the iCloud stuff sounds cool. :o)
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 ---
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 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au
 Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 
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New campus proposal by Apple

2011-06-08 Thread cm

Steve Jobs has been busy this week. The day before his WWDC keynote address he 
made a presentation to the Cupertino City Council about a proposed new campus 
that will be completed by 2015 if given approval. Apple bought the land from 
Hewlett Packard and plans to build an enormous donut shaped building that is 
only four stories high but that houses 12,000 employees.

If you have not overdosed on Jobs watching during the keynote, the video clip 
referenced in the link below is well worth watching.

http://www.itworld.com/business/172227/apple-plans-new-spaceship-campus

Cheers,
Carlo


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Re: New campus proposal by Apple

2011-06-08 Thread Daniel Kerr


I liked the comment on that about taxes,... (from MacRumours)
http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/08/steve-jobs-pitches-cupertino-on-new-app
le-campus/

/quote
One of the city councilors asked what the citizens of Cupertino would get
from the new campus, and in particular brought up a free Wi-Fi network, like
Google offers in Mountain View. Steve responded that Apple was the largest
taxpayer in Cupertino and he felt that the tax benefits to having a company
like Apple in Cupertino was benefit enough and the city should be providing
a service like that.

If we can get out of paying taxes, we would be glad to provide free Wi-Fi.
/end quote

I wonder if I can use that same logic with my council. If I offer free WiFi
can I not pay my rates??? :) hehehe.

Will be interesting as they put it as it will all be round glass everywhere,
no corners. :) At least they have it down pat now as they say, from the work
in the stores

Kind regards
Daniel


On 9/6/11 1:15 AM, cm cm200...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Steve Jobs has been busy this week. The day before his WWDC keynote address he
 made a presentation to the Cupertino City Council about a proposed new campus
 that will be completed by 2015 if given approval. Apple bought the land from
 Hewlett Packard and plans to build an enormous donut shaped building that is
 only four stories high but that houses 12,000 employees.
 
 If you have not overdosed on Jobs watching during the keynote, the video clip
 referenced in the link below is well worth watching.
 
 http://www.itworld.com/business/172227/apple-plans-new-spaceship-campus
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 
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What Happens to my iDisk and MobileMe websites

2011-06-08 Thread Rod Blitvich
found this this morning on TUAWcheersBlittoWhat happens to our iDisk and MobileMe websites with the introduction of iCloud?For now, nothing. All MobileMe accounts have been extended to June 30, 2012, so nothing will change for a year. You'll still have your websites and iDisk information; Apple isn't going to suddenly delete it on you.As far as the long term implications of iCloud on MobileMe, we have heard a few reports from users talking to AppleCare Support that there will be a form of iDisk in iCloud this fall. However, until Apple says so, nothing is official (although we sure can speculate). In the meantime, it's business as usual. Keep using your iDisk and MobileMe websites as if nothing happened Monday. Everything will keep working, at least for another year.I will say this though: lots and lots of Apple employees use iDisk and the MobileMe websites every day. All Apple employees receive a free MobileMe account, and they would be the first ones to give feedback if the services suddenly disappeared.
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Re: iPad and Flash/iPad in France

2011-06-08 Thread John Thompson

Hi Ronni,
Is there any progress in the arrival of HTML5 Video as a replacement 
for Flash?
On 08/06/2011, at 11:38 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 
 Hi Laura,
 
 On 08/06/2011, at 9:18 AM, Laura Webb wrote:
 
 
 Good morning all
 
 Two questions here.
 
 Firstly, is there any way around the lack of Flash on the iPad? I use an on 
 line language course that requires Flash and get very frustrated that I 
 can't use the same programme on the iPad.
 
 The iPad does not and ‘most’ probably never will support Flash. 
 The iPad supports HTML5 Video.
 
 
 There are a few 'work arounds’, but they all have serious limitations.
 When you buy an iPad, you implicitly accept that you'll never be able to play 
 Flash, Apple never made a secret of this.
 
 You can try Skyfire ... some like it most don't. 
 
 http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/11/skyfire-ios-app/
 
 http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/28/ipad-brightcove-videos-html5/
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.6.7 Snow Leopard
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 
 Secondly, a couple of months someone on the List asked me to report back on 
 my experiences using iPad in France. I thought I had carefully put a 
 reminder in iCal to deal with this on my return. Not sure what happened but 
 the reminder is no longer there and I'm now not sure who was asking the 
 question. Was it Brett? If the person concerned would like to contact me off 
 list I can go into more detail.
 
 Put simply there is no problem at all in buying a French Micro SIM for the 
 iPad. I bought mine from an Orange Store at the same time as I purchased a 
 french SIM for my mobile phone. Depending on where someone is staying, the 
 French SIM for the iPad is not all that necessary. There are many hot spots 
 at cafés and the few hotels I stayed at all had free WiFi. I was based in 
 one town for three weeks and the accommodation I had came with wireless 
 access. My reason for buying the French micro SIM was to give me complete 
 independence for internet connection.  I'm assured that the iPad SIM card 
 will remain valid for six months which should cover my next visit in 
 September. That remains to be seen!!
 
 I have always taken my MacBook with me when travelling but this time having 
 my iPad with me was sheer joy and reminded me of comments made by Susan some 
 time ago when she too had experienced the pleasure of travelling overseas 
 with her iPad, 
 
 Best wishes
 Laura
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: 114 Things You Should Know About Apple's New Offerings

2011-06-08 Thread Peter Hinchliffe


On 08/06/2011, at 2:43 PM, Pat wrote:

 My first thought about upgrading to OS 10.7 is, 'Will it play nice with my 
 existing 3rd party software, e.g. Photoshop, Parallels, and all the other 
 necessities?'  I will probably wait to hear about experiences other people 
 have.
 
 Pat
 


You should have no problems as long as your 3rd party software is written for 
the Intel processor, ie, it is either Universal or Intel. If it is PowerPC 
only, it will not work in Lion. 

To work if a particular application is Intel or PowerPC, go to About This Mac 
under the Apple Menu, and click the More Info button. This will launch System 
Profiler. 

Scroll down the list of contents at the left of the window until you get to the 
Software section and click on Applications. 

Give the list a few moments to populate, then look for your application in the 
list. Widen the window if necessary until you see the Kind column. You can 
sort this column by clicking on the column header to make searching easier. 

Any items labelled Classic or PowerPC will not work with Lion. Those 
without a label are an unknown quantity, but everything else should work just 
fine.

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Re: New campus proposal by Apple

2011-06-08 Thread cm

Hi Daniel,

Yes. I also enjoyed the chair of the council asking Steve Jobs to open an Apple 
Store in Cupertino. Unfortunately for the chairman who as an obvious Apple 
supporter, Jobs replied it was unlikely as Cupertino did not have enough 
population to provide the customer traffic to support the store.

Cheers,
Carlo

On 2011-06-09, at 01:20, Daniel Kerr wrote:

 
 
 I liked the comment on that about taxes,... (from MacRumours)
 http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/08/steve-jobs-pitches-cupertino-on-new-app
 le-campus/
 
 /quote
 One of the city councilors asked what the citizens of Cupertino would get
 from the new campus, and in particular brought up a free Wi-Fi network, like
 Google offers in Mountain View. Steve responded that Apple was the largest
 taxpayer in Cupertino and he felt that the tax benefits to having a company
 like Apple in Cupertino was benefit enough and the city should be providing
 a service like that.
 
 If we can get out of paying taxes, we would be glad to provide free Wi-Fi.
 /end quote
 
 I wonder if I can use that same logic with my council. If I offer free WiFi
 can I not pay my rates??? :) hehehe.
 
 Will be interesting as they put it as it will all be round glass everywhere,
 no corners. :) At least they have it down pat now as they say, from the work
 in the stores
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 
 On 9/6/11 1:15 AM, cm cm200...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Steve Jobs has been busy this week. The day before his WWDC keynote address 
 he
 made a presentation to the Cupertino City Council about a proposed new campus
 that will be completed by 2015 if given approval. Apple bought the land from
 Hewlett Packard and plans to build an enormous donut shaped building that is
 only four stories high but that houses 12,000 employees.
 
 If you have not overdosed on Jobs watching during the keynote, the video clip
 referenced in the link below is well worth watching.
 
 http://www.itworld.com/business/172227/apple-plans-new-spaceship-campus
 
 Cheers,
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Re: iPad and Flash/iPad in France

2011-06-08 Thread cm
Hi John,

HTML5 is certainly the way of the future. Ronni may know of more examples but 
just to give you a few that I have heard of:

* Windows 8 will use HTML5 to bring apps to the Microsoft tablet format 
(http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/06/01/microsoft_demonstrates_windows_8_with_html5_apps.html)

* Google now provides all youtube videos in both flash and HTML5 -- though I 
personally am a bit suspicious of Google who may pull the feature if they 
thought it would give them a competitive advantage over Apple (Google fights 
Flash, adds HTML5 support for YouTube videos in Safar)i

* Adobe now has a tool to convert Flash to HTML5 
(http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2011/03/flash-to-html5-conversion-tool-on-adobe-labs.html)

Some other links from AppleInsider -- even the pornographers know that Flash is 
on its way out :-)

Scribd scrapping Flash and betting the company on HTML5 
Head of Microsoft's Internet Explorer says HTML5 is the 'future'
More than half of online videos are now in iOS-friendly HTML5 (H.264)
Pornographers next to dump Flash for HTML5 
Vimeo launches Flash-free Universal Player for iPhone, iPad

Cheers,
Carlo

On 2011-06-09, at 07:27, John Thompson wrote:

 
 Hi Ronni,
   Is there any progress in the arrival of HTML5 Video as a replacement 
 for Flash?
 On 08/06/2011, at 11:38 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 
 Hi Laura,
 
 On 08/06/2011, at 9:18 AM, Laura Webb wrote:
 
 
 Good morning all
 
 Two questions here.
 
 Firstly, is there any way around the lack of Flash on the iPad? I use an on 
 line language course that requires Flash and get very frustrated that I 
 can't use the same programme on the iPad.
 
 The iPad does not and ‘most’ probably never will support Flash. 
 The iPad supports HTML5 Video.
 
 
 There are a few 'work arounds’, but they all have serious limitations.
 When you buy an iPad, you implicitly accept that you'll never be able to 
 play Flash, Apple never made a secret of this.
 
 You can try Skyfire ... some like it most don't. 
 
 http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/11/skyfire-ios-app/
 
 http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/28/ipad-brightcove-videos-html5/
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.6.7 Snow Leopard
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 
 Secondly, a couple of months someone on the List asked me to report back on 
 my experiences using iPad in France. I thought I had carefully put a 
 reminder in iCal to deal with this on my return. Not sure what happened but 
 the reminder is no longer there and I'm now not sure who was asking the 
 question. Was it Brett? If the person concerned would like to contact me 
 off list I can go into more detail.
 
 Put simply there is no problem at all in buying a French Micro SIM for the 
 iPad. I bought mine from an Orange Store at the same time as I purchased a 
 french SIM for my mobile phone. Depending on where someone is staying, the 
 French SIM for the iPad is not all that necessary. There are many hot spots 
 at cafés and the few hotels I stayed at all had free WiFi. I was based in 
 one town for three weeks and the accommodation I had came with wireless 
 access. My reason for buying the French micro SIM was to give me complete 
 independence for internet connection.  I'm assured that the iPad SIM card 
 will remain valid for six months which should cover my next visit in 
 September. That remains to be seen!!
 
 I have always taken my MacBook with me when travelling but this time having 
 my iPad with me was sheer joy and reminded me of comments made by Susan 
 some time ago when she too had experienced the pleasure of travelling 
 overseas with her iPad, 
 
 Best wishes
 Laura
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: iPad and Flash/iPad in France

2011-06-08 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi John,

Thanks Carlo, for a very good post. I don’t think there is really anything more 
to add, you have covered this subject.

Perhaps I can just add this ;-)

The W3C expects official completion of the HTML5 set of standards in 2014.”

http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2011/06/html5-and-what-it-means-for-the-mobile-industry/

Cheers,
Ronni

On 09/06/2011, at 10:29 AM, cm wrote:

 Hi John,
 
 HTML5 is certainly the way of the future. Ronni may know of more examples but 
 just to give you a few that I have heard of:
 
 * Windows 8 will use HTML5 to bring apps to the Microsoft tablet format 
 (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/06/01/microsoft_demonstrates_windows_8_with_html5_apps.html)
 
 * Google now provides all youtube videos in both flash and HTML5 -- though I 
 personally am a bit suspicious of Google who may pull the feature if they 
 thought it would give them a competitive advantage over Apple (Google fights 
 Flash, adds HTML5 support for YouTube videos in Safar)i
 
 * Adobe now has a tool to convert Flash to HTML5 
 (http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2011/03/flash-to-html5-conversion-tool-on-adobe-labs.html)
 
 Some other links from AppleInsider -- even the pornographers know that Flash 
 is on its way out :-)
 
 Scribd scrapping Flash and betting the company on HTML5 
 Head of Microsoft's Internet Explorer says HTML5 is the 'future'
 More than half of online videos are now in iOS-friendly HTML5 (H.264)
 Pornographers next to dump Flash for HTML5 
 Vimeo launches Flash-free Universal Player for iPhone, iPad
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 2011-06-09, at 07:27, John Thompson wrote:
 
 
 Hi Ronni,
  Is there any progress in the arrival of HTML5 Video as a replacement 
 for Flash?
 On 08/06/2011, at 11:38 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 
 Hi Laura,
 
 On 08/06/2011, at 9:18 AM, Laura Webb wrote:
 
 
 Good morning all
 
 Two questions here.
 
 Firstly, is there any way around the lack of Flash on the iPad? I use an 
 on line language course that requires Flash and get very frustrated that I 
 can't use the same programme on the iPad.
 
 The iPad does not and ‘most’ probably never will support Flash. 
 The iPad supports HTML5 Video.
 
 
 There are a few 'work arounds’, but they all have serious limitations.
 When you buy an iPad, you implicitly accept that you'll never be able to 
 play Flash, Apple never made a secret of this.
 
 You can try Skyfire ... some like it most don't. 
 
 http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/11/skyfire-ios-app/
 
 http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/28/ipad-brightcove-videos-html5/
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.6.7 Snow Leopard
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 
 Secondly, a couple of months someone on the List asked me to report back 
 on my experiences using iPad in France. I thought I had carefully put a 
 reminder in iCal to deal with this on my return. Not sure what happened 
 but the reminder is no longer there and I'm now not sure who was asking 
 the question. Was it Brett? If the person concerned would like to contact 
 me off list I can go into more detail.
 
 Put simply there is no problem at all in buying a French Micro SIM for the 
 iPad. I bought mine from an Orange Store at the same time as I purchased a 
 french SIM for my mobile phone. Depending on where someone is staying, the 
 French SIM for the iPad is not all that necessary. There are many hot 
 spots at cafés and the few hotels I stayed at all had free WiFi. I was 
 based in one town for three weeks and the accommodation I had came with 
 wireless access. My reason for buying the French micro SIM was to give me 
 complete independence for internet connection.  I'm assured that the iPad 
 SIM card will remain valid for six months which should cover my next visit 
 in September. That remains to be seen!!
 
 I have always taken my MacBook with me when travelling but this time 
 having my iPad with me was sheer joy and reminded me of comments made by 
 Susan some time ago when she too had experienced the pleasure of 
 travelling overseas with her iPad, 
 
 Best wishes
 Laura
 




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Re: How to change HD name of MDP after Import from PowerBookG4

2011-06-08 Thread Matt Falvey

Hi Ronni, with regard to 1.  I think I might have resolved it or as we were 
looking at the wrong thing.

I went back to the Old PowerBookG4 and took a ScreenShot of its System 
Preferences Sharing File Sharing Shared FoldersPowerBookG4 HD Users: 
System Administrator - Read  Write
Administrators - Read  Write
Everyone - Read Only

I then revisited the MBP and wondered how could it be so different if all I did 
was use the Migration Assistant to copy the PBG4 to the MBP, then I realised 
that on the ScreenShot I had highlighted the Matt Falvey Public Folder and it 
was listing the users for that folder, (Which looked just as wrong, why would 
an unknown user have access to my public folder? [see below]) any way the 
setting for the MBP when I click on the PowerBookG4 are:

MBP  System Preferences Sharing File Sharing Shared FoldersPowerBookG4 HD 
Users: 
System Administrator - Read  Write
Administrators - Read  Write
Everyone - Read Only

Which is exactly the same format as on my iMac.  So I went and checked my two 
daughters iMac's and their Shared Folders only had their Public Folders, No HD 
and the Users: (Name), Staff, Everyone, format that you mentioned.  

So I followed your instruction to Minus and stop sharing the PowerBookG4 and 
instantly it disappeared from the Shared screen on the iMac and the problem was 
fixed. 

I checked that I could still mount the MBP on the iMac and I could without any 
problems, So then I realised and the lack of an HD on my daughters Shared 
Folders also confirmed, that I did not need to put the HD into Shared Folders 
to be able to share it with other computers on the network.  So I then took the 
iMac Macintosh HD off of its Shared folder and thus decreased the amount of 
icons in the shared section of the Finder window, on a roll here.

Then I went back to the MBP and changed the Users in the Matt Falvey Public 
Folder to Matt Falvey - Read  Write, Staff  - Read Only and Everyone - Read 
Only.
Now I noticed that you had Everyone as Read and Write, were as all of the Mac's 
here have Everyone as Read Only, should I change them all or leave them all as 
is, the same?  

Ronni, thanks very much for all your help on this, I really appreciate your 
patience and time.

Matt


On 08/06/2011, at 4:16 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Matt,
 
 On 08/06/2011, at 2:57 PM, Matt Falvey wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, I did follow the instructions step by step and no brackets.
 
 Yes, I see by your screenshot you have ;-)
 
 I have taken a Screen shot of the Systems preferences Sharing page and you 
 can see that the name has changed successfully. at aft://MBP/ or MBP  I 
 went back over the last past of the instructions again and restated the MBP 
 and turned the Modem off, Things have stayed the same.  
 
 But I am glad you referred back to it because if you look at the Shared 
 Folder's: on the MBP right in the middle under File Sharing : On you will 
 see Matt Falvey Public Folder (with a normal folder icon) and underneath it 
 PowerBookG4 HD (with a HD icon), that is exactly what is turning up on the 
 iMac once I open up the NetworkMBPConnect as - on the iMac.  
 
 In the Screenshot you sent me of System Preferences  “Sharing” I notice two 
 things wrong.
 1. Under Shared Folders: Beside the Matt Falvey  - Users: Matt Falvey  - Read 
  Write (which is correct)
   
Unknown User (Incorrect, should be Staff)  Read only 
 (which is correct)
   
 Everyone  - Read  Write (is correct)
 
 Now I noticed underneath I have the + and - icons, would it be appropriate 
 to delete the PowerBookG4 HD from this Shared Folder, presuming it is now 
 NOT the actual MBP HD and that will get rid of it for ever?
 
 By your screenshot, you are sharing ‘File Sharing  ‘Printer Sharing’, so 
 select the PowerBookG4 HD  use the - to stop sharing it.
 You can always + it again if you find it is actually the MBP HD.
 
 But then if it is not the actual MBP HD by another name, why isn't that 
 showing up there in its own right under its own name?  (Just checked the 
 Imac and the HD name and the name in the Shared Folders is the same, .)
 
 Please send me a screenshot “Offlist of this.
 
 So we have the situation of on the MBP in System preferences under Shared 
 Folders: the MBP being described as PowerBookG4 HD and if you then look at 
 the imac on the Finder window under Shared it has a little (iMac) symbol and 
 MBP. But once you try to launch it on Network you get the two options as 
 previously described.
 
 I’m concerned as to how you transferred  what you transferred across to your 
 Daughter’s MBP  did the Set Up. 
 Was it her User Account your transferred or ?
 
 More confusion. I will email the Screen shots privately as they are not 
 allowed on Wamug. 
 
 Thanks for sending the screenshots. I’ll email a 

Re: Lion available in July

2011-06-08 Thread Rob Davies

Morning,

Yes, Ronni we hear and agree!

Not sure or read any to the contrary, but I would assume Apple has a 
contingency plan.
As even in the good ol USA not everybody is connected to a T1 and beyond.

There is still a lot of the country connected via dial up speeds, as with ours 
not in City Range of Exchanges.
Even at home, being 15km from Perth; only ADSL 1 Speeds. 
Which I suppose is better than dial up, although at 135kbits at best 4GB takes 
a long time.
Then there is issue of file size, maintaining the connection, which for a lot 
in AU will be an issue. 
So, partial downloads would have to be advisable times number of machines.

Hopefully OS X server Lion edition, Software Updates server connects through 
App store.

I cannot see Apple doing something to remove cash flow even just a little.

But then again they keep testing those boundaries, especially in Australia and 
others outside of US.

US OS X Lion $29.99
AU OS X Lion $31.99

US to AU dollar about .95 cents, sustainable until at least next year 
apparently.
Is it not being delivered electronically, even Microsoft allow for variance 
through Digital distribution.

Cheers!
`RobD...

On 08Jun2011, at 6:35 pm, Pedro wrote:

 
 Evening all
 
 I feel your pain Ronni
 
 I have three machines in this household to update and my Internet in 
 painfully slow thanks to the aging copper wires and the distance I am from 
 the closest exchange
 
 I wonder if this link will be of any help
 
 http://www.tuaw.com/2011/06/07/how-to-burn-a-lion-boot-disc/
 
 Perhaps some of our Perth members would rent out their super fast ADSL2+ to 
 us poor rural dwellers for a small fee, he he 
 
 Cheers
 
 iPadro
 
 
 On 07/06/2011, at 8:44 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 
 Yes Daniel,
 
 From what I have so far read … I’m NOT happy. 
 The things I did NOT want to happen, but felt would happen … have happened! 
 ;-(
 
 Major upgrades direct  only from the App Store is not what I wanted, 
 especially for some of my clients.
 Some of my country clients have slow Networks  small download limits. I 
 often need to download the updates on my connection  place onto an external 
 drive so I can install for them.
 
 I’ll reserve my final judgement until more information becomes available.
 
 We MobileMe members from dot.mac days have already received emails informing 
 us of the change to iCloud.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 07/06/2011, at 2:53 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
 
 
 On 7/6/11 1:42 AM, cm cm200...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Daniel,
 
 The following is a cut-and-paste from the Mac Rumuours live coverage of the
 WWDC keynote address which I was silly enough to stay up for. The excerpt 
 is
 best read from bottom to top to follow the time sequence. I'll have an
 espresso thanks. :-D
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 10:38 am Available for everyone else in July
 10:38 am New dev preview today.
 10:37 am $29.99
 10:37 am Buy once. Install on all macs like all Mac app store apps.
 10:37 am 4Gb
 10:37 am Lion available only on Mac App Store
 
 
 One thing that annoys me with this,...and this is just my personal
 opinion,...but for people that are on small downloads are being penalised.
 I know some clients that have 2GB limits.
 How are they to get a 4GB download??
 And sometimes with it charged at excess rates of 15c/MB that makes the
 remainder 2GB of the download costing them about $300 if they don't realise.
 As it's purchased through the Mac App Store, then it's not like you burn it
 DVD for them or something.
 
 Maybe I'm missing something here, and more info will become available later.
 Sure, maybe for the US where download limits are large and internet is
 cheap. But unfortunately we still have some low limits here in Australia.
 
 Again, maybe I'm missing something, or I'm not keeping up with the times
 but I just think there should be a couple of options. For those that don't
 realise or unsure about it, doesn't it leave them out of the loop for Lion?
 
 I suppose the other problem I see with this, is if you have to download it
 is that some clients don't want to do that. They feel more comfortable with
 hiring someone to come out and do it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to
 sound like I'm complaining about a loss of income or anything. I just know
 that for some, they may not feel comfortable in downloading and installing.
 They prefer to call me out to do it. I can't now go out and say,..oh, well I
 have to sit here for a couple of hours while this downloads.
 Sure I could say,..well start it downloading and call me when it's finished
 if you have any problems.
 I'm guessing that once it's downloaded you can burn the dmg file to install
 it, but then you wouldn't be able to do that as a) it wouldn't have been
 paid for, for another client and b) wont' give correct download figures to
 Apple.
 Maybe there will be a pay but don't download option.
 
 I guess time will tell.
 Just a couple of things that sprung to mind when I saw it. I mentioned it to
 another friend of mine who