Re: Cannot find original folder for Mail downloads

2016-07-18 Thread Bill Parker
Thanks.  Mail Downloads back where it should be.

Bill
> On 19 Jul 2016, at 12:37, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> 1. Press & Hold Option key and Choose “Go to Folder”
> 2. Copy and paste the below path into the resulting Go to the folder: window
> 
>  /Users/bill/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads
> 
> 3. Then hit Go
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
>> On 19 Jul 2016, at 12:02 PM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au 
>> <mailto:ren...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> It was just a one click quick route to the mail downloads that Daniel 
>> installed for me.   
>> 
>> I just tried opt+ the GO and found the Mail alias and another folder called 
>> Mail but nothing in that relating to downloads.
>> 
>> However, the Opt with Go is the only way I can get there.
>> 
>> Bill
>>> On 19 Jul 2016, at 11:40, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Bill,
>>> 
>>> Why do you have an alias of the Mail Downloads folder on your Desktop?
>>> 
>>> It is your Home User Library (which is hidden) and The Path is correct:
>>> 
>>>  /Users/bill/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads
>>> 
>>> Just press and hold the “option/alt” key, and you can choose 
>>> “Go to Library” in the Go menu of the Finder 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>>> 
>>> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 19 Jul 2016, at 10:57 AM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au 
>>>> <mailto:ren...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I wanted to find the original folder for Mail Downloads  ( I have an alias 
>>>> on my Desktop)
>>>> 
>>>> I tried searching = nothing found.
>>>> 
>>>> I then did a Command +i   and got the pathway:
>>>> 
>>>> Original:  /Users/bill/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail 
>>>> Downloads
>>>> 
>>>> There is no “library” no “containers” etc.
>>>> 
>>>> Not sure what is happening here, but Mail and related things like Contacts 
>>>> still play up.
>>>> 
>>>> Any help welcome.
>>>> 
>>>> Bill
>>> 
> 
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Re: Cannot find original folder for Mail downloads

2016-07-18 Thread Ronni Brown
Hi Bill,

1. Press & Hold Option key and Choose “Go to Folder”
2. Copy and paste the below path into the resulting Go to the folder: window

 /Users/bill/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads

3. Then hit Go

Cheers,
Ronni

> On 19 Jul 2016, at 12:02 PM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> It was just a one click quick route to the mail downloads that Daniel 
> installed for me.   
> 
> I just tried opt+ the GO and found the Mail alias and another folder called 
> Mail but nothing in that relating to downloads.
> 
> However, the Opt with Go is the only way I can get there.
> 
> Bill
>> On 19 Jul 2016, at 11:40, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bill,
>> 
>> Why do you have an alias of the Mail Downloads folder on your Desktop?
>> 
>> It is your Home User Library (which is hidden) and The Path is correct:
>> 
>>  /Users/bill/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads
>> 
>> Just press and hold the “option/alt” key, and you can choose 
>> “Go to Library” in the Go menu of the Finder 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>> 
>> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19 Jul 2016, at 10:57 AM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au 
>>> <mailto:ren...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I wanted to find the original folder for Mail Downloads  ( I have an alias 
>>> on my Desktop)
>>> 
>>> I tried searching = nothing found.
>>> 
>>> I then did a Command +i   and got the pathway:
>>> 
>>> Original:  /Users/bill/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail 
>>> Downloads
>>> 
>>> There is no “library” no “containers” etc.
>>> 
>>> Not sure what is happening here, but Mail and related things like Contacts 
>>> still play up.
>>> 
>>> Any help welcome.
>>> 
>>> Bill
>> 

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Re: Cannot find original folder for Mail downloads

2016-07-18 Thread Bill Parker
It was just a one click quick route to the mail downloads that Daniel installed 
for me.   

I just tried opt+ the GO and found the Mail alias and another folder called 
Mail but nothing in that relating to downloads.

However, the Opt with Go is the only way I can get there.

Bill
> On 19 Jul 2016, at 11:40, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> Why do you have an alias of the Mail Downloads folder on your Desktop?
> 
> It is your Home User Library (which is hidden) and The Path is correct:
> 
>  /Users/bill/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads
> 
> Just press and hold the “option/alt” key, and you can choose 
> “Go to Library” in the Go menu of the Finder 
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
> 
> 
>> On 19 Jul 2016, at 10:57 AM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au 
>> <mailto:ren...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> I wanted to find the original folder for Mail Downloads  ( I have an alias 
>> on my Desktop)
>> 
>> I tried searching = nothing found.
>> 
>> I then did a Command +i   and got the pathway:
>> 
>> Original:  /Users/bill/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail 
>> Downloads
>> 
>> There is no “library” no “containers” etc.
>> 
>> Not sure what is happening here, but Mail and related things like Contacts 
>> still play up.
>> 
>> Any help welcome.
>> 
>> Bill
> 
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Re: Cannot find original folder for Mail downloads

2016-07-18 Thread Ronni Brown
Hi Bill,

Why do you have an alias of the Mail Downloads folder on your Desktop?

It is your Home User Library (which is hidden) and The Path is correct:

 /Users/bill/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads

Just press and hold the “option/alt” key, and you can choose 
“Go to Library” in the Go menu of the Finder 

Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

El Capitan OS X 10.11.5


> On 19 Jul 2016, at 10:57 AM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> I wanted to find the original folder for Mail Downloads  ( I have an alias on 
> my Desktop)
> 
> I tried searching = nothing found.
> 
> I then did a Command +i   and got the pathway:
> 
> Original:  /Users/bill/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail 
> Downloads
> 
> There is no “library” no “containers” etc.
> 
> Not sure what is happening here, but Mail and related things like Contacts 
> still play up.
> 
> Any help welcome.
> 
> Bill


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Cannot find original folder for Mail downloads

2016-07-18 Thread Bill Parker
I wanted to find the original folder for Mail Downloads  ( I have an alias on 
my Desktop)

I tried searching = nothing found.

I then did a Command +i   and got the pathway:

Original:  /Users/bill/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail 
Downloads

There is no “library” no “containers” etc.

Not sure what is happening here, but Mail and related things like Contacts 
still play up.

Any help welcome.

Bill
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Re: iOS9 downloads

2015-10-28 Thread petercrisp
Thanks Ronni, understood it is a different subject. No rush.
Pete.

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From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:
Cc:
Sent:Wed, 28 Oct 2015 16:08:36 +0800
Subject:Re: iOS9 downloads

Hi Peter, 
 I'll reply in another email with a suitable Subject to your questions
regarding updating numerous Macs OS X & iOS devices in your household.

 I'll get to it as soon as I can find time. 
 Cheers, Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 28 Oct 2015, at 2:10 PM, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote:

 Thanks Ronni for clarifying that. Makes sense. Generally I make sure
i do a Backup of my iOS devices to iTunes prior to an iOS minor update
(within version release) and Transfer Purchases made since last
Backup. Once that's done I unplug and then update OTA. Been trouble
free for many updates so far.
 What I would like to know is how can I arrange updates for the 8 iOS
devices in my household (all using the one AppleID) but synchronised
with 5 respective iTunes instances on those relevant MBP's without
downloading the update file 8 times - and similarly for OSX (for the
5MBP's) Can I put the update file on the network and pick it up at
each MBP and place strategically in Finder to allow the update to
happen on the other machines? 
 Pete.

- Original Message -
 From: wamug@wamug.org.au [2]  
To:"WAMUG" 
Cc: 
Sent:Wed, 28 Oct 2015 13:22:41 +0800
Subject:Re: iOS9 downloads

 Hi Severin & Peter,
   At first approximation they are the same, _BUT THE MECHANISM OF THE
UPDATE IS DIFFERENT SINCE ONE CAN BE A DELTA AND SELF-APPLIED UPDATE
AND THE OTHER INSTALLS A COMPLETE BUILD RATHER THAN PATCHING THE OS._ 

 The OTA (Over The Air) update implies the OS and device is working
properly, so iTunes is a good bet if you really want to ensure the
update goes well or want to put the device into Recovery mode to
ensure the new OS and only the new OS is written.  Obviously, if the
device is having problems, you should opt for iTunes to control the
update rather than hoping the device installs the patch properly. 
  iTunes downloads a several hundred megabyte IPSW file that can be
used to do a more complete “Restore" if needed.  It is the
“Restore" that will reformat the filesystem etc. 
 Assuming your device is working well, you can safely update OTA
(plugged into power) and in many cases - the download is a delta
update that is smaller than the entire image if you are doing an
update that isn't a major version (8.0 or 9.0) 
 Using iTunes also gives you a chance to transfer purchases and reduce
the number of apps you will have to re-download after a major update.
Again, not an issue on incremental updates like 9.0 update from 9.0.1.

   Cheers, Ronni 
  13-INCH MACBOOK AIR (APRIL 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz 8GB 1600MHz
LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage  
OS X El Capitan  10.11   
 On 28 Oct 2015, at 12:05 PM, petercr...@westnet.com.au [4] wrote: 
Yes, I have noted the same phenomenon and have wondered why. Now, I
wait for Ronni's "all clear" before doing the download and always use
the WiFI option. There is no apparent downside to doing it this way -
always. 
 Pete 

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 From: wamug@wamug.org.au [5]  
To:"WAMUG List" 
Cc: 
Sent:Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:58:10 +0800
Subject:iOS9 downloads

 Why are downloads via iTunes on iOS devices so unbelievably slow?  
I usually do them wirelessly but today by some quirk I decided to do
my iPad mini while plugged in to iTunes.  After what seemed an
interminable wait I interrogated the download viewer and was told
there were 12 hours still to go.  I unplugged and went to wifi and
all completed in the normal sort of time.  Why is this? Severin Crisp
   
              ASSOC PROF R SEVERIN CRISP, FAIP, FIP, CPHYS 15
Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia        
          ph (08) 9842 1950 ( Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)        
                   mail to: sevcr...@westnet.com.au [7] 


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Re: iOS9 downloads

2015-10-28 Thread petercrisp
Thanks Ronni for clarifying that. Makes sense. Generally I make sure i
do a Backup of my iOS devices to iTunes prior to an iOS minor update
(within version release) and Transfer Purchases made since last
Backup. Once that's done I unplug and then update OTA. Been trouble
free for many updates so far.
What I would like to know is how can I arrange updates for the 8 iOS
devices in my household (all using the one AppleID) but synchronised
with 5 respective iTunes instances on those relevant MBP's without
downloading the update file 8 times - and similarly for OSX (for the
5MBP's). Can I put the update file on the network and pick it up at
each MBP and place strategically in Finder to allow the update to
happen on the other machines?
Pete.

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:"WAMUG" 
Cc:
Sent:Wed, 28 Oct 2015 13:22:41 +0800
Subject:Re: iOS9 downloads

 Hi Severin & Peter,
   At first approximation they are the same, _BUT THE MECHANISM OF THE
UPDATE IS DIFFERENT SINCE ONE CAN BE A DELTA AND SELF-APPLIED UPDATE
AND THE OTHER INSTALLS A COMPLETE BUILD RATHER THAN PATCHING THE OS._ 

 The OTA (Over The Air) update implies the OS and device is working
properly, so iTunes is a good bet if you really want to ensure the
update goes well or want to put the device into Recovery mode to
ensure the new OS and only the new OS is written.  Obviously, if the
device is having problems, you should opt for iTunes to control the
update rather than hoping the device installs the patch properly. 
  iTunes downloads a several hundred megabyte IPSW file that can be
used to do a more complete “Restore" if needed.  It is the
“Restore" that will reformat the filesystem etc. 
 Assuming your device is working well, you can safely update OTA
(plugged into power) and in many cases - the download is a delta
update that is smaller than the entire image if you are doing an
update that isn't a major version (8.0 or 9.0) 
 Using iTunes also gives you a chance to transfer purchases and reduce
the number of apps you will have to re-download after a major update.
Again, not an issue on incremental updates like 9.0 update from 9.0.1.

   Cheers, Ronni 
  13-INCH MACBOOK AIR (APRIL 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz 8GB 1600MHz
LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage  
OS X El Capitan  10.11   
 On 28 Oct 2015, at 12:05 PM, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote: 
Yes, I have noted the same phenomenon and have wondered why. Now, I
wait for Ronni's "all clear" before doing the download and always use
the WiFI option. There is no apparent downside to doing it this way -
always. 
 Pete. 

- Original Message -
 From: wamug@wamug.org.au [2]  
To:"WAMUG List" 
Cc: 
Sent:Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:58:10 +0800
Subject:iOS9 downloads

 Why are downloads via iTunes on iOS devices so unbelievably slow?  
I usually do them wirelessly but today by some quirk I decided to do
my iPad mini while plugged in to iTunes.  After what seemed an
interminable wait I interrogated the download viewer and was told
there were 12 hours still to go.  I unplugged and went to wifi and
all completed in the normal sort of time.  Why is this? Severin Crisp
   
              ASSOC PROF R SEVERIN CRISP, FAIP, FIP, CPHYS 15
Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia        
          ph (08) 9842 1950 ( Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)        
                   mail to: sevcr...@westnet.com.au [4]

 

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Re: iOS9 downloads

2015-10-28 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Peter,

I'll reply in another email with a suitable Subject to your questions regarding 
updating numerous Macs OS X & iOS devices in your household.

I'll get to it as soon as I can find time.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 28 Oct 2015, at 2:10 PM, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> Thanks Ronni for clarifying that. Makes sense. Generally I make sure i do a 
> Backup of my iOS devices to iTunes prior to an iOS minor update (within 
> version release) and Transfer Purchases made since last Backup. Once that's 
> done I unplug and then update OTA. Been trouble free for many updates so far.
> 
> What I would like to know is how can I arrange updates for the 8 iOS devices 
> in my household (all using the one AppleID) but synchronised with 5 
> respective iTunes instances on those relevant MBP's without downloading the 
> update file 8 times - and similarly for OSX (for the 5MBP's). Can I put the 
> update file on the network and pick it up at each MBP and place strategically 
> in Finder to allow the update to happen on the other machines?
> 
> Pete.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From:
> wamug@wamug.org.au
> 
> To:
> "WAMUG" <wamug@wamug.org.au>
> Cc:
> 
> Sent:
> Wed, 28 Oct 2015 13:22:41 +0800
> Subject:
> Re: iOS9 downloads
> 
> 
> Hi Severin & Peter,
> 
> At first approximation they are the same, but the mechanism of the update is 
> different since one can be a delta and self-applied update and the other 
> installs a complete build rather than patching the OS.
> 
> The OTA (Over The Air) update implies the OS and device is working properly, 
> so iTunes is a good bet if you really want to ensure the update goes well or 
> want to put the device into Recovery mode to ensure the new OS and only the 
> new OS is written. 
> Obviously, if the device is having problems, you should opt for iTunes to 
> control the update rather than hoping the device installs the patch properly.
> 
>  iTunes downloads a several hundred megabyte IPSW file that can be used to do 
> a more complete “Restore" if needed. 
> It is the “Restore" that will reformat the filesystem etc.
> 
> Assuming your device is working well, you can safely update OTA (plugged into 
> power) and in many cases - the download is a delta update that is smaller 
> than the entire image if you are doing an update that isn't a major version 
> (8.0 or 9.0)
> 
> Using iTunes also gives you a chance to transfer purchases and reduce the 
> number of apps you will have to re-download after a major update. Again, not 
> an issue on incremental updates like 9.0 update from 9.0.1.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> OS X El Capitan  10.11
> 
> On 28 Oct 2015, at 12:05 PM, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> Yes, I have noted the same phenomenon and have wondered why. Now, I wait for 
> Ronni's "all clear" before doing the download and always use the WiFI option. 
> There is no apparent downside to doing it this way - always. 
> 
> Pete 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From:
> wamug@wamug.org.au
> 
> To:
> "WAMUG List" <wamug@wamug.org.au>
> Cc:
> 
> Sent:
> Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:58:10 +0800
> Subject:
> iOS9 downloads
> 
> 
> Why are downloads via iTunes on iOS devices so unbelievably slow?   I usually 
> do them wirelessly but today by some quirk I decided to do my iPad mini while 
> plugged in to iTunes.  After what seemed an interminable wait I interrogated 
> the download viewer and was told there were 12 hours still to go.  I 
> unplugged and went to wifi and all completed in the normal sort of time.  
> Why is this?
> Severin Crisp
> 
> 
>  Assoc Prof R Severin Crisp, FAIP, FIP, CPhys
> 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia
>   ph (08) 9842 1950 ( Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
>mail to: sevcr...@westnet.com.au
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iOS9 downloads

2015-10-27 Thread Severin Crisp
Why are downloads via iTunes on iOS devices so unbelievably slow?   I usually 
do them wirelessly but today by some quirk I decided to do my iPad mini while 
plugged in to iTunes.  After what seemed an interminable wait I interrogated 
the download viewer and was told there were 12 hours still to go.  I unplugged 
and went to wifi and all completed in the normal sort of time.  
Why is this?
Severin Crisp


 Assoc Prof R Severin Crisp, FAIP, FIP, CPhys
15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia
  ph (08) 9842 1950 ( Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
   mail to: sevcr...@westnet.com.au




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Re: iOS9 downloads

2015-10-27 Thread petercrisp
Yes, I have noted the same phenomenon and have wondered why. Now, I
wait for Ronni's "all clear" before doing the download and always use
the WiFI option. There is no apparent downside to doing it this way -
always. 
Pete. 

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:"WAMUG List" 
Cc:
Sent:Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:58:10 +0800
Subject:iOS9 downloads

 Why are downloads via iTunes on iOS devices so unbelievably slow?  
I usually do them wirelessly but today by some quirk I decided to do
my iPad mini while plugged in to iTunes.  After what seemed an
interminable wait I interrogated the download viewer and was told
there were 12 hours still to go.  I unplugged and went to wifi and
all completed in the normal sort of time.  Why is this? Severin Crisp
   
              ASSOC PROF R SEVERIN CRISP, FAIP, FIP, CPHYS 15
Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia        
          ph (08) 9842 1950 ( Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)        
                   mail to: sevcr...@westnet.com.au [1]
 

 

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Re: iOS9 downloads

2015-10-27 Thread Ronni Brown
Hi Severin & Peter,

At first approximation they are the same, but the mechanism of the update is 
different since one can be a delta and self-applied update and the other 
installs a complete build rather than patching the OS.

The OTA (Over The Air) update implies the OS and device is working properly, so 
iTunes is a good bet if you really want to ensure the update goes well or want 
to put the device into Recovery mode to ensure the new OS and only the new OS 
is written. 
Obviously, if the device is having problems, you should opt for iTunes to 
control the update rather than hoping the device installs the patch properly.

 iTunes downloads a several hundred megabyte IPSW file that can be used to do a 
more complete “Restore" if needed. 
It is the “Restore" that will reformat the filesystem etc.

Assuming your device is working well, you can safely update OTA (plugged into 
power) and in many cases - the download is a delta update that is smaller than 
the entire image if you are doing an update that isn't a major version (8.0 or 
9.0)

Using iTunes also gives you a chance to transfer purchases and reduce the 
number of apps you will have to re-download after a major update. Again, not an 
issue on incremental updates like 9.0 update from 9.0.1.

Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

OS X El Capitan  10.11

> On 28 Oct 2015, at 12:05 PM, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> Yes, I have noted the same phenomenon and have wondered why. Now, I wait for 
> Ronni's "all clear" before doing the download and always use the WiFI option. 
> There is no apparent downside to doing it this way - always. 
> 
> Pete. 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From:
> wamug@wamug.org.au
> 
> To:
> "WAMUG List" <wamug@wamug.org.au>
> Cc:
> 
> Sent:
> Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:58:10 +0800
> Subject:
> iOS9 downloads
> 
> 
> Why are downloads via iTunes on iOS devices so unbelievably slow?   I usually 
> do them wirelessly but today by some quirk I decided to do my iPad mini while 
> plugged in to iTunes.  After what seemed an interminable wait I interrogated 
> the download viewer and was told there were 12 hours still to go.  I 
> unplugged and went to wifi and all completed in the normal sort of time.  
> Why is this?
> Severin Crisp
> 
> 
>  Assoc Prof R Severin Crisp, FAIP, FIP, CPhys
> 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia
>   ph (08) 9842 1950 ( Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
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> <mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au>
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Re: iOS9 downloads

2015-10-27 Thread Severin Crisp
Many thanks for that, as usual, full and succinct explanation!  
Severin

> On 28 Oct 2015, at 1:22 pm, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Severin & Peter,
> 
> At first approximation they are the same, but the mechanism of the update is 
> different since one can be a delta and self-applied update and the other 
> installs a complete build rather than patching the OS.
> 
> The OTA (Over The Air) update implies the OS and device is working properly, 
> so iTunes is a good bet if you really want to ensure the update goes well or 
> want to put the device into Recovery mode to ensure the new OS and only the 
> new OS is written. 
> Obviously, if the device is having problems, you should opt for iTunes to 
> control the update rather than hoping the device installs the patch properly.
> 
>  iTunes downloads a several hundred megabyte IPSW file that can be used to do 
> a more complete “Restore" if needed. 
> It is the “Restore" that will reformat the filesystem etc.
> 
> Assuming your device is working well, you can safely update OTA (plugged into 
> power) and in many cases - the download is a delta update that is smaller 
> than the entire image if you are doing an update that isn't a major version 
> (8.0 or 9.0)
> 
> Using iTunes also gives you a chance to transfer purchases and reduce the 
> number of apps you will have to re-download after a major update. Again, not 
> an issue on incremental updates like 9.0 update from 9.0.1.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> OS X El Capitan  10.11
> 
>> On 28 Oct 2015, at 12:05 PM, petercr...@westnet.com.au 
>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I have noted the same phenomenon and have wondered why. Now, I wait for 
>> Ronni's "all clear" before doing the download and always use the WiFI 
>> option. There is no apparent downside to doing it this way - always. 
>> 
>> Pete. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From:
>> wamug@wamug.org.au <mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>
>> To:
>> "WAMUG List" <wamug@wamug.org.au <mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>>
>> Cc:
>> 
>> Sent:
>> Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:58:10 +0800
>> Subject:
>> iOS9 downloads
>> 
>> 
>> Why are downloads via iTunes on iOS devices so unbelievably slow?   I 
>> usually do them wirelessly but today by some quirk I decided to do my iPad 
>> mini while plugged in to iTunes.  After what seemed an interminable wait I 
>> interrogated the download viewer and was told there were 12 hours still to 
>> go.  I unplugged and went to wifi and all completed in the normal sort of 
>> time.  
>> Why is this?
>> Severin Crisp
>> 
>> 
>>  Assoc Prof R Severin Crisp, FAIP, FIP, CPhys
>> 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia
>>   ph (08) 9842 1950 ( Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
>>mail to: sevcr...@westnet.com.au 
>> <mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au>
>> 
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Strange file in downloads folder ?

2014-11-11 Thread Stephen Chape
Hi folks,

I discovered this morning a file in my downloads folder that I do not recall 
downloading.
From memory (sorry I eventually deleted it without writing it down), it was 
“mac-card-restore-trial.dmg”
I had a difficult time deleting it, but eventually once I dragged to desktop 
and re-started my iMac it deleted.
Really strange though, because initially right clicking it would not even bring 
up a menu to delete.

I have iMac Core i7 3.1GHz with 16GB RAM.
December 2012 model.

Has anyone come across this file before please ?

Regards,
Stephen Chape

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Re: Strange file in downloads folder ?

2014-11-11 Thread Kevin Lock
Was it called Genieo?

Kev


On 12 Nov 2014, at 9:58 am, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote:

 Hi folks,
 
 I discovered this morning a file in my downloads folder that I do not recall 
 downloading.
 From memory (sorry I eventually deleted it without writing it down), it was 
 “mac-card-restore-trial.dmg”
 I had a difficult time deleting it, but eventually once I dragged to desktop 
 and re-started my iMac it deleted.
 Really strange though, because initially right clicking it would not even 
 bring up a menu to delete.
 
 I have iMac Core i7 3.1GHz with 16GB RAM.
 December 2012 model.
 
 Has anyone come across this file before please ?
 
 Regards,
 Stephen Chape
 
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 Windows because my employer knew no better
 
 
 
 
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Re: Strange file in downloads folder ?

2014-11-11 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Stephen,


Probably a  photo recovery software 'trial' you downloaded back around 26/27 
August 
Re your email request to WAMUG -Re: Recovering photos from an SD card ?

Daniel suggested you use Picture Rescue 2 by Prosoft which you eventually did 
and recovered all your photos form the SD card.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 12 Nov 2014, at 9:58 am, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 I discovered this morning a file in my downloads folder that I do not recall 
 downloading.
 From memory (sorry I eventually deleted it without writing it down), it was 
 “mac-card-restore-trial.dmg”
 I had a difficult time deleting it, but eventually once I dragged to desktop 
 and re-started my iMac it deleted.
 Really strange though, because initially right clicking it would not even 
 bring up a menu to delete.
 
 I have iMac Core i7 3.1GHz with 16GB RAM.
 December 2012 model.
 
 Has anyone come across this file before please ?
 
 Regards,
 Stephen Chape
 
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 Windows because my employer knew no better
 
 
 
 
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Re: Strange file in downloads folder ?

2014-11-11 Thread Stephen Chape
Aha thank you Ronni,
You are my human backup RAM.
I believe you are correct !

Heavens …. I recently put my name down for an Alzheimers research program.
But the tests showed I am low risk so was no good for the trial.
Now this makes one wonder eh !


 On 12 Nov 2014, at 1:09 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Stephen,
 
 
 Probably a  photo recovery software 'trial' you downloaded back around 26/27 
 August 
 Re your email request to WAMUG -Re: Recovering photos from an SD card ?
 
 Daniel suggested you use Picture Rescue 2 by Prosoft which you eventually did 
 and recovered all your photos form the SD card.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 12 Nov 2014, at 9:58 am, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com 
 mailto:chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 I discovered this morning a file in my downloads folder that I do not recall 
 downloading.
 From memory (sorry I eventually deleted it without writing it down), it was 
 “mac-card-restore-trial.dmg”
 I had a difficult time deleting it, but eventually once I dragged to desktop 
 and re-started my iMac it deleted.
 Really strange though, because initially right clicking it would not even 
 bring up a menu to delete.
 
 I have iMac Core i7 3.1GHz with 16GB RAM.
 December 2012 model.
 
 Has anyone come across this file before please ?
 
 Regards,
 Stephen Chape
 
 Mac by choice
 Windows because my employer knew no better
 
 
 
 
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Re: Yosemite with chrome downloads

2014-10-28 Thread Peter Hinchliffe

 On 28 Oct 2014, at 10:40 am, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Thanks Peter.
 
 As a Mac man since 1985 ish I have always regarded Apple and the Mac products 
 highly.  I learned that it might not always be a wise move to adopt Version 1 
 of something new.  10.9.1 was an example.  So that’s a long winded way of say 
 I’ll follow your advice  when Yosemite has been around for a few months!
 
 Bill
 
 

Can't argue with that!   :-)

My business requires me to stay close to the front edge of this stuff so I tend 
to update as soon as I can, but I must admit it also means that I stay at the 
front edge of the problems. Fortunately I have been fairly lucky in having been 
able to avoid most of them. 

Nevertheless, technology is changing at an extremely rapid rate these days, and 
Apple is often leading the charge. They are masters in the art of discarding 
the old in favour of the new, so it doesn't pay to stay too far behind. 



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Re: Yosemite with chrome downloads

2014-10-27 Thread Marlene Oostryck
Hello Peter,

Thanks for this info.
I am currently cleaning up my computer in readiness for an upgrade - and it 
looks like it will have to be Yosemite.

Regards

Marlene 

On 27/10/2014, at 7:52 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:

 
 On 24 Oct 2014, at 3:51 pm, Marlene Oostryck oostr...@optusnet.com.au 
 wrote:
 
 Hello David,
 
 I too had a problem this week with bank transfers to a nominated account 
 (RABO/Macquarie Bank) which I have been doing for many years.
 I am using Snow Leopard 10.6.8 and Safari 5.1.10. The transfers would not go 
 through using Safari.
 I only use Safari - but tried using Firefox and the transfers went through 
 easily.
 
 So, as I prefer using Safari, I will be spending this weekend carefully 
 going through the WAMUG posts to be dragged kicking and screaming to upgrade 
 from my comfortable SL to Mavericks. Yosemite is a step too far!
 
 Hope it all goes well for me.
 
 Regards
 
 Marlene Oostryck
 
 
 Actually Marlene, if you intend going to Mavericks you might as weil go the 
 extra step and install Yosemite, for the following reasons:
 
 1. Apple have dropped Mavericks from the App Store, so if you haven't already 
 downloaded a copy prior to the release of Yosemite you're going to find it a 
 challenge finding a copy.
 
 2. Apart from a handful of key improvements, the differences between 
 Mavericks and Yosemite are largely cosmetic. Coming from Snow Leopard, your 
 learning curve will be the same either way.
 
 3. As nice as Mavericks was, it still had a few little rough edges that 
 Yosemite has finally polished off. There will be no advantage to you trying 
 to upgrade to Mavericks instead of Yosemite. 
 
 You will have to make the move at some time. Now is the perfect time.
 
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Re: Yosemite with chrome downloads

2014-10-27 Thread Peter Hinchliffe

 On 27 Oct 2014, at 9:03 am, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Peter,
 
 I have had my share of issues with Mavericks.   So when I see recommendations 
 to go another change/upgrade I am ever more reluctant.  
 
 I won’t go into details but Mail has a some random behaviours, I still get 
 the occasional (random) warning about an improper removal of an external 
 disk.  In the latter, no disk has been removed and nothing touches the USB in 
 the side of the laptop.   Permissions repair takes sometimes an hour  etc etc.
 
 So Yosemite?
 
 Bill
 


Hi Blll, 

IN general my responses to the list are from an entirely personal point of 
view, with, as much as possible, little reference to outside sources (I just 
don't have the time for the research!) and make recommendations accordingly. 
I'm sorry you've had these issues with some aspects of Mavericks, but all I can 
say is that they are outside my experience. My main niggles with Mavericks have 
been related to certain small bits of software which were not sufficiently 
developed to deal with Retina displays, such as the Colour Picker. Most if not 
all of these have been addressed in Yosemite, so I for one am a happy chappie. 
Yosemite for me has been a further step forward.

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Re: Yosemite with chrome downloads

2014-10-26 Thread Peter Hinchliffe

 On 24 Oct 2014, at 3:51 pm, Marlene Oostryck oostr...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hello David,
 
 I too had a problem this week with bank transfers to a nominated account 
 (RABO/Macquarie Bank) which I have been doing for many years.
 I am using Snow Leopard 10.6.8 and Safari 5.1.10. The transfers would not go 
 through using Safari.
 I only use Safari - but tried using Firefox and the transfers went through 
 easily.
 
 So, as I prefer using Safari, I will be spending this weekend carefully going 
 through the WAMUG posts to be dragged kicking and screaming to upgrade from 
 my comfortable SL to Mavericks. Yosemite is a step too far!
 
 Hope it all goes well for me.
 
 Regards
 
 Marlene Oostryck


Actually Marlene, if you intend going to Mavericks you might as weil go the 
extra step and install Yosemite, for the following reasons:

1. Apple have dropped Mavericks from the App Store, so if you haven't already 
downloaded a copy prior to the release of Yosemite you're going to find it a 
challenge finding a copy.

2. Apart from a handful of key improvements, the differences between Mavericks 
and Yosemite are largely cosmetic. Coming from Snow Leopard, your learning 
curve will be the same either way.

3. As nice as Mavericks was, it still had a few little rough edges that 
Yosemite has finally polished off. There will be no advantage to you trying to 
upgrade to Mavericks instead of Yosemite. 

You will have to make the move at some time. Now is the perfect time.

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FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

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Re: Yosemite with chrome downloads

2014-10-26 Thread Bill Parker
Peter,

I have had my share of issues with Mavericks.   So when I see recommendations 
to go another change/upgrade I am ever more reluctant.  

I won’t go into details but Mail has a some random behaviours, I still get the 
occasional (random) warning about an improper removal of an external disk.  In 
the latter, no disk has been removed and nothing touches the USB in the side of 
the laptop.   Permissions repair takes sometimes an hour  etc etc.

So Yosemite?

Bill


On 27 Oct 2014, at 7:52, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote:

 
 On 24 Oct 2014, at 3:51 pm, Marlene Oostryck oostr...@optusnet.com.au 
 wrote:
 
 Hello David,
 
 I too had a problem this week with bank transfers to a nominated account 
 (RABO/Macquarie Bank) which I have been doing for many years.
 I am using Snow Leopard 10.6.8 and Safari 5.1.10. The transfers would not go 
 through using Safari.
 I only use Safari - but tried using Firefox and the transfers went through 
 easily.
 
 So, as I prefer using Safari, I will be spending this weekend carefully 
 going through the WAMUG posts to be dragged kicking and screaming to upgrade 
 from my comfortable SL to Mavericks. Yosemite is a step too far!
 
 Hope it all goes well for me.
 
 Regards
 
 Marlene Oostryck
 
 
 Actually Marlene, if you intend going to Mavericks you might as weil go the 
 extra step and install Yosemite, for the following reasons:
 
 1. Apple have dropped Mavericks from the App Store, so if you haven't already 
 downloaded a copy prior to the release of Yosemite you're going to find it a 
 challenge finding a copy.
 
 2. Apart from a handful of key improvements, the differences between 
 Mavericks and Yosemite are largely cosmetic. Coming from Snow Leopard, your 
 learning curve will be the same either way.
 
 3. As nice as Mavericks was, it still had a few little rough edges that 
 Yosemite has finally polished off. There will be no advantage to you trying 
 to upgrade to Mavericks instead of Yosemite. 
 
 You will have to make the move at some time. Now is the perfect time.
 
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
 
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Re: Yosemite with chrome downloads

2014-10-26 Thread Stephen Chape
Hi Bill,
I see your point but consider the positive aspect of Peter’s comments.
“some rough edges have been polished off”.

Perhaps your issues with Mavericks may be rectified by upgrading to Yosemite !
I am just guessing but I reckon that’s what I would do in your circumstances.

On 27 Oct 2014, at 9:03 am, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 Peter,
 
 I have had my share of issues with Mavericks.   So when I see recommendations 
 to go another change/upgrade I am ever more reluctant. 
 
 I won’t go into details but Mail has a some random behaviours, I still get 
 the occasional (random) warning about an improper removal of an external 
 disk.  In the latter, no disk has been removed and nothing touches the USB in 
 the side of the laptop.   Permissions repair takes sometimes an hour  etc etc.
 
 So Yosemite?
 
 Bill
 
 
 On 27 Oct 2014, at 7:52, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote:
 
 
 On 24 Oct 2014, at 3:51 pm, Marlene Oostryck oostr...@optusnet.com.au 
 wrote:
 
 Hello David,
 
 I too had a problem this week with bank transfers to a nominated account 
 (RABO/Macquarie Bank) which I have been doing for many years.
 I am using Snow Leopard 10.6.8 and Safari 5.1.10. The transfers would not 
 go through using Safari.
 I only use Safari - but tried using Firefox and the transfers went through 
 easily.
 
 So, as I prefer using Safari, I will be spending this weekend carefully 
 going through the WAMUG posts to be dragged kicking and screaming to 
 upgrade from my comfortable SL to Mavericks. Yosemite is a step too far!
 
 Hope it all goes well for me.
 
 Regards
 
 Marlene Oostryck
 
 
 Actually Marlene, if you intend going to Mavericks you might as weil go the 
 extra step and install Yosemite, for the following reasons:
 
 1. Apple have dropped Mavericks from the App Store, so if you haven't 
 already downloaded a copy prior to the release of Yosemite you're going to 
 find it a challenge finding a copy.
 
 2. Apart from a handful of key improvements, the differences between 
 Mavericks and Yosemite are largely cosmetic. Coming from Snow Leopard, your 
 learning curve will be the same either way.
 
 3. As nice as Mavericks was, it still had a few little rough edges that 
 Yosemite has finally polished off. There will be no advantage to you trying 
 to upgrade to Mavericks instead of Yosemite. 
 
 You will have to make the move at some time. Now is the perfect time.
 
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Re: Yosemite with chrome downloads

2014-10-26 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Bill,

1. Reboot the Mac and hold down Command+R to boot into Recovery
2. Select “Recovery HD” at the boot menu
3. At the Mac OS X Utilities screen, select “Disk Utility”
4. Select the boot volume or partition from the left menu and click on the 
“Repair” tab
5. Repair Disk is now possible, click on “Repair Disk” to repair the boot volume

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 27 Oct 2014, at 9:03 am, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Peter,
 
 I have had my share of issues with Mavericks.   So when I see recommendations 
 to go another change/upgrade I am ever more reluctant.  
 
 I won’t go into details but Mail has a some random behaviours, I still get 
 the occasional (random) warning about an improper removal of an external 
 disk.  In the latter, no disk has been removed and nothing touches the USB in 
 the side of the laptop.   Permissions repair takes sometimes an hour  etc etc.
 
 So Yosemite?
 
 Bill
 
 
 On 27 Oct 2014, at 7:52, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote:
 
 
 On 24 Oct 2014, at 3:51 pm, Marlene Oostryck oostr...@optusnet.com.au 
 wrote:
 
 Hello David,
 
 I too had a problem this week with bank transfers to a nominated account 
 (RABO/Macquarie Bank) which I have been doing for many years.
 I am using Snow Leopard 10.6.8 and Safari 5.1.10. The transfers would not 
 go through using Safari.
 I only use Safari - but tried using Firefox and the transfers went through 
 easily.
 
 So, as I prefer using Safari, I will be spending this weekend carefully 
 going through the WAMUG posts to be dragged kicking and screaming to 
 upgrade from my comfortable SL to Mavericks. Yosemite is a step too far!
 
 Hope it all goes well for me.
 
 Regards
 
 Marlene Oostryck
 
 
 Actually Marlene, if you intend going to Mavericks you might as weil go the 
 extra step and install Yosemite, for the following reasons:
 
 1. Apple have dropped Mavericks from the App Store, so if you haven't 
 already downloaded a copy prior to the release of Yosemite you're going to 
 find it a challenge finding a copy.
 
 2. Apart from a handful of key improvements, the differences between 
 Mavericks and Yosemite are largely cosmetic. Coming from Snow Leopard, your 
 learning curve will be the same either way.
 
 3. As nice as Mavericks was, it still had a few little rough edges that 
 Yosemite has finally polished off. There will be no advantage to you trying 
 to upgrade to Mavericks instead of Yosemite. 
 
 You will have to make the move at some time. Now is the perfect time.
 
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
 
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Re: Yosemite with chrome downloads

2014-10-24 Thread Ronni Brown
Any reason Why you are using Chrome instead of Safari?
Safari in Yosemite is faster than Chrome and Firefox

http://www.macrumors.com/2014/10/22/apple-encouraging-safari-downloads/ 
http://www.macrumors.com/2014/10/22/apple-encouraging-safari-downloads/

http://www.cnet.com/au/news/safari-8-browser-on-yosemite-shows-major-speed-boost/
 
http://www.cnet.com/au/news/safari-8-browser-on-yosemite-shows-major-speed-boost/

I don't have Chrome installed and won't install it.

Either ‘Shift-Command-F’ or ‘Ctrl-Command-F’ should solve it if it was just 
that.  It is NOT that.  It's some sort of bug.


Cheers,
Ronni

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8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

OS X 10.10 Yosemite

 On 24 Oct 2014, at 12:29 pm, Rosemary Spark arkaysp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Anyone have any problems with Chrome downloads or inserting files?
 When I try to download a file or attach one the window is too large. I can't 
 do anything but press enter and hope. There is no way to close or cancel.
 I can't re-size the window upwards to see the button.
 The dock is in the way.
 Anyone got any ideas?
 
 Cheers
 
 Rosemary Spark
 PO Box 781
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 Phone: + 61 8 94336609
 Mobile: 0414268043
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Re: Yosemite with chrome downloads

2014-10-24 Thread David Noel
Sorry not an answer for Rosemary, but allied problem. I use both
Safari and Chrome (also sometimes Firefox), but since about 2 weeks
ago, Safari has the heading This version of Safari is no longer
supported. Please upgrade to a supported browser..

I'm still on 10.6.8, which is probably why the message appears. Do I
just carry on using the unsupported Safari until it collapses, or is
there any way of updating it while still on 10.6.8?

David Noel


On 24 October 2014 14:09, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 Any reason Why you are using Chrome instead of Safari?
 Safari in Yosemite is faster than Chrome and Firefox

 http://www.macrumors.com/2014/10/22/apple-encouraging-safari-downloads/

 http://www.cnet.com/au/news/safari-8-browser-on-yosemite-shows-major-speed-boost/

 I don't have Chrome installed and won't install it.

 Either ‘Shift-Command-F’ or ‘Ctrl-Command-F’ should solve it if it was just
 that.  It is NOT that.  It's some sort of bug.


 Cheers,
 Ronni

 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

 OS X 10.10 Yosemite

 On 24 Oct 2014, at 12:29 pm, Rosemary Spark arkaysp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone have any problems with Chrome downloads or inserting files?
 When I try to download a file or attach one the window is too large. I can't
 do anything but press enter and hope. There is no way to close or cancel.
 I can't re-size the window upwards to see the button.
 The dock is in the way.
 Anyone got any ideas?

 Cheers

 Rosemary Spark
 PO Box 781
 South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
 Phone: + 61 8 94336609
 Mobile: 0414268043
 arkaysp...@gmail.com



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Re: Yosemite with chrome downloads

2014-10-24 Thread Ronni Brown
What version of Safari are you using in OS X 10.6.8?
Safari 5.1.10 for Snow Leopard  - http://support.apple.com/kb/dl1569 
http://support.apple.com/kb/dl1569

Cheers,
Ronni

 On 24 Oct 2014, at 2:28 pm, David Noel lis...@aoi.com.au wrote:
 
 Sorry not an answer for Rosemary, but allied problem. I use both
 Safari and Chrome (also sometimes Firefox), but since about 2 weeks
 ago, Safari has the heading This version of Safari is no longer
 supported. Please upgrade to a supported browser..
 
 I'm still on 10.6.8, which is probably why the message appears. Do I
 just carry on using the unsupported Safari until it collapses, or is
 there any way of updating it while still on 10.6.8?
 
 David Noel
 
 
 On 24 October 2014 14:09, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 Any reason Why you are using Chrome instead of Safari?
 Safari in Yosemite is faster than Chrome and Firefox
 
 http://www.macrumors.com/2014/10/22/apple-encouraging-safari-downloads/
 
 http://www.cnet.com/au/news/safari-8-browser-on-yosemite-shows-major-speed-boost/
 
 I don't have Chrome installed and won't install it.
 
 Either ‘Shift-Command-F’ or ‘Ctrl-Command-F’ should solve it if it was just
 that.  It is NOT that.  It's some sort of bug.
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
 
 OS X 10.10 Yosemite
 
 On 24 Oct 2014, at 12:29 pm, Rosemary Spark arkaysp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Anyone have any problems with Chrome downloads or inserting files?
 When I try to download a file or attach one the window is too large. I can't
 do anything but press enter and hope. There is no way to close or cancel.
 I can't re-size the window upwards to see the button.
 The dock is in the way.
 Anyone got any ideas?
 
 Cheers
 
 Rosemary Spark
 PO Box 781
 South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
 Phone: + 61 8 94336609
 Mobile: 0414268043
 arkaysp...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: Yosemite with chrome downloads

2014-10-24 Thread David Noel
Yes, I'm using Safari 5.1.10. David.

On 24 October 2014 14:48, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 What version of Safari are you using in OS X 10.6.8?
 Safari 5.1.10 for Snow Leopard  - http://support.apple.com/kb/dl1569

 Cheers,
 Ronni

 On 24 Oct 2014, at 2:28 pm, David Noel lis...@aoi.com.au wrote:

 Sorry not an answer for Rosemary, but allied problem. I use both
 Safari and Chrome (also sometimes Firefox), but since about 2 weeks
 ago, Safari has the heading This version of Safari is no longer
 supported. Please upgrade to a supported browser..

 I'm still on 10.6.8, which is probably why the message appears. Do I
 just carry on using the unsupported Safari until it collapses, or is
 there any way of updating it while still on 10.6.8?

 David Noel


 On 24 October 2014 14:09, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Any reason Why you are using Chrome instead of Safari?
 Safari in Yosemite is faster than Chrome and Firefox

 http://www.macrumors.com/2014/10/22/apple-encouraging-safari-downloads/

 http://www.cnet.com/au/news/safari-8-browser-on-yosemite-shows-major-speed-boost/

 I don't have Chrome installed and won't install it.

 Either ‘Shift-Command-F’ or ‘Ctrl-Command-F’ should solve it if it was just
 that.  It is NOT that.  It's some sort of bug.


 Cheers,
 Ronni

 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

 OS X 10.10 Yosemite

 On 24 Oct 2014, at 12:29 pm, Rosemary Spark arkaysp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone have any problems with Chrome downloads or inserting files?
 When I try to download a file or attach one the window is too large. I can't
 do anything but press enter and hope. There is no way to close or cancel.
 I can't re-size the window upwards to see the button.
 The dock is in the way.
 Anyone got any ideas?

 Cheers

 Rosemary Spark
 PO Box 781
 South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
 Phone: + 61 8 94336609
 Mobile: 0414268043
 arkaysp...@gmail.com



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Re: Yosemite with chrome downloads

2014-10-24 Thread Stephen Chape
Hi David.
I am intrigued to know why you use 3 different browsers ?


On 24 Oct 2014, at 2:55 pm, David Noel lis...@aoi.com.au wrote:

 Yes, I'm using Safari 5.1.10. David.
 
 On 24 October 2014 14:48, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 What version of Safari are you using in OS X 10.6.8?
 Safari 5.1.10 for Snow Leopard  - http://support.apple.com/kb/dl1569
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 24 Oct 2014, at 2:28 pm, David Noel lis...@aoi.com.au wrote:
 
 Sorry not an answer for Rosemary, but allied problem. I use both
 Safari and Chrome (also sometimes Firefox), but since about 2 weeks
 ago, Safari has the heading This version of Safari is no longer
 supported. Please upgrade to a supported browser..
 
 I'm still on 10.6.8, which is probably why the message appears. Do I
 just carry on using the unsupported Safari until it collapses, or is
 there any way of updating it while still on 10.6.8?
 
 David Noel
 
 
 On 24 October 2014 14:09, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Any reason Why you are using Chrome instead of Safari?
 Safari in Yosemite is faster than Chrome and Firefox
 
 http://www.macrumors.com/2014/10/22/apple-encouraging-safari-downloads/
 
 http://www.cnet.com/au/news/safari-8-browser-on-yosemite-shows-major-speed-boost/
 
 I don't have Chrome installed and won't install it.
 
 Either ‘Shift-Command-F’ or ‘Ctrl-Command-F’ should solve it if it was just
 that.  It is NOT that.  It's some sort of bug.
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
 
 OS X 10.10 Yosemite
 
 On 24 Oct 2014, at 12:29 pm, Rosemary Spark arkaysp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Anyone have any problems with Chrome downloads or inserting files?
 When I try to download a file or attach one the window is too large. I can't
 do anything but press enter and hope. There is no way to close or cancel.
 I can't re-size the window upwards to see the button.
 The dock is in the way.
 Anyone got any ideas?
 
 Cheers
 
 Rosemary Spark
 PO Box 781
 South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
 Phone: + 61 8 94336609
 Mobile: 0414268043
 arkaysp...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: Yosemite with chrome downloads

2014-10-24 Thread Ronni Brown
Hi David,

The highest Safari level for 10.6.8 is the 5.1.10 that you are on.   
What it means is amongst other things they cannot be sure of the security 
aspect.
As apple are no longer supporting Snow Leopard.

Cheers,
Ronni

 On 24 Oct 2014, at 2:55 pm, David Noel lis...@aoi.com.au wrote:
 
 Yes, I'm using Safari 5.1.10. David.
 
 On 24 October 2014 14:48, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 What version of Safari are you using in OS X 10.6.8?
 Safari 5.1.10 for Snow Leopard  - http://support.apple.com/kb/dl1569
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 24 Oct 2014, at 2:28 pm, David Noel lis...@aoi.com.au wrote:
 
 Sorry not an answer for Rosemary, but allied problem. I use both
 Safari and Chrome (also sometimes Firefox), but since about 2 weeks
 ago, Safari has the heading This version of Safari is no longer
 supported. Please upgrade to a supported browser..
 
 I'm still on 10.6.8, which is probably why the message appears. Do I
 just carry on using the unsupported Safari until it collapses, or is
 there any way of updating it while still on 10.6.8?
 
 David Noel

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Re: Yosemite with chrome downloads

2014-10-24 Thread Marlene Oostryck
Hello David,

I too had a problem this week with bank transfers to a nominated account 
(RABO/Macquarie Bank) which I have been doing for many years.
I am using Snow Leopard 10.6.8 and Safari 5.1.10. The transfers would not go 
through using Safari.
I only use Safari - but tried using Firefox and the transfers went through 
easily.

So, as I prefer using Safari, I will be spending this weekend carefully going 
through the WAMUG posts to be dragged kicking and screaming to upgrade from my 
comfortable SL to Mavericks. Yosemite is a step too far!

Hope it all goes well for me.

Regards

Marlene Oostryck

On 24/10/2014, at 2:28 PM, David Noel wrote:

 Sorry not an answer for Rosemary, but allied problem. I use both
 Safari and Chrome (also sometimes Firefox), but since about 2 weeks
 ago, Safari has the heading This version of Safari is no longer
 supported. Please upgrade to a supported browser..
 
 I'm still on 10.6.8, which is probably why the message appears. Do I
 just carry on using the unsupported Safari until it collapses, or is
 there any way of updating it while still on 10.6.8?
 
 David Noel
 
 
 On 24 October 2014 14:09, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 Any reason Why you are using Chrome instead of Safari?
 Safari in Yosemite is faster than Chrome and Firefox
 
 http://www.macrumors.com/2014/10/22/apple-encouraging-safari-downloads/
 
 http://www.cnet.com/au/news/safari-8-browser-on-yosemite-shows-major-speed-boost/
 
 I don't have Chrome installed and won't install it.
 
 Either ‘Shift-Command-F’ or ‘Ctrl-Command-F’ should solve it if it was just
 that.  It is NOT that.  It's some sort of bug.
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
 
 OS X 10.10 Yosemite
 
 On 24 Oct 2014, at 12:29 pm, Rosemary Spark arkaysp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Anyone have any problems with Chrome downloads or inserting files?
 When I try to download a file or attach one the window is too large. I can't
 do anything but press enter and hope. There is no way to close or cancel.
 I can't re-size the window upwards to see the button.
 The dock is in the way.
 Anyone got any ideas?
 
 Cheers
 
 Rosemary Spark
 PO Box 781
 South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
 Phone: + 61 8 94336609
 Mobile: 0414268043
 arkaysp...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Yosemite with chrome downloads

2014-10-23 Thread Rosemary Spark
Anyone have any problems with Chrome downloads or inserting files?
When I try to download a file or attach one the window is too large. I
can't do anything but press enter and hope. There is no way to close or
cancel.
I can't re-size the window upwards to see the button.
The dock is in the way.
Anyone got any ideas?

Cheers

Rosemary Spark
PO Box 781
South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
Phone: + 61 8 94336609
Mobile: 0414268043
arkaysp...@gmail.com
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Itunes downloads

2014-03-19 Thread Alan Fenton
Hello.
How do I permanently stop or council unwanted downloads from iTunes?
Due to a slow internet I have started two downloads of the same TV program.( 
Seems nothing is happening so I click download again and then the downloads 
start. I stop one and let the other finish) One I want but the other I do not. 
I can delete the down load list but next time I use Itunes it tries to download 
again. After a chat with Iinet internet speed has improved.
The above has happened about ten times over the last two months. So now I have 
about ten different TV programs waiting to down load. The only way is to let 
them download but that uses my data limit up.

From Alan.
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Re: Itunes downloads

2014-03-19 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Alan,

Once an item enters the download queue, the user cannot remove it. 
Either allow them to download, then delete them (easiest) 
OR
Contact the iTunes Store customer support department through the Contact page 
and ask them if they'll remove the item(s) from your queue for you.
http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/contact/

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4

 On 19 Mar 2014, at 6:52 pm, Alan Fenton alc...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 How do I permanently stop or council unwanted downloads from iTunes?
 Due to a slow internet I have started two downloads of the same TV program.( 
 Seems nothing is happening so I click download again and then the downloads 
 start. I stop one and let the other finish) One I want but the other I do 
 not. I can delete the down load list but next time I use Itunes it tries to 
 download again. After a chat with Iinet internet speed has improved.
 The above has happened about ten times over the last two months. So now I 
 have about ten different TV programs waiting to down load. The only way is to 
 let them download but that uses my data limit up.
 
 From Alan.
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Question Mark Dock Icon for Downloads

2012-10-05 Thread Alan Smith
The Downloads Folder Dock icon has now changed to a question mark.  It is still 
labelled Downloads, but can't be activated.  Had just installed OS X 10.8.2 
Supp 1.0 (and iPhoto 9.4.1) following the auto App Store update advice.   Is 
this a new feature or a warning?   Or should I delete it and create another 
dock folder?

The Dock folder was re-instated a week or so ago after it disappeared, probably 
due to my inadvertent dragging to to Trash.

Regards, Alan

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Re: Question Mark Dock Icon for Downloads

2012-10-05 Thread Ronni Brown
Hi Alan,

The Question mark indicates that the Original app is either moved from original 
location, or has been deleted.

Click on the 'House' in the Finder's Sidebar and 'click  drag' it back to the 
position on the dock.

Cheers,
Ronni

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Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)


On 06/10/2012, at 6:55 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 The Downloads Folder Dock icon has now changed to a question mark.  It is 
 still labelled Downloads, but can't be activated.  Had just installed OS X 
 10.8.2 Supp 1.0 (and iPhoto 9.4.1) following the auto App Store update 
 advice.   Is this a new feature or a warning?   Or should I delete it and 
 create another dock folder?
 
 The Dock folder was re-instated a week or so ago after it disappeared, 
 probably due to my inadvertent dragging to to Trash.
 
 Regards, Alan
 
 Alan Smith
  Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.2
  iPad2; ATV2
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Question Mark Dock Icon for Downloads

2012-10-05 Thread Alan Smith
Hi Ronni

Thanks for explaining the cause and solution.   Did you mean to say to click 
and drag downloads from the sidebar, rather than the house?  

The cause is a bit of a worry - but its at the bottom of my Worry List!

Cheers
Alan

On 06/10/2012, at 9:15 AM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

Hi Alan,

The Question mark indicates that the Original app is either moved from original 
location, or has been deleted.

Click on the 'House' in the Finder's Sidebar and 'click  drag' it back to the 
position on the dock.

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.8.2 Mountain Lion
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)


On 06/10/2012, at 6:55 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 The Downloads Folder Dock icon has now changed to a question mark.  It is 
 still labelled Downloads, but can't be activated.  Had just installed OS X 
 10.8.2 Supp 1.0 (and iPhoto 9.4.1) following the auto App Store update 
 advice.   Is this a new feature or a warning?   Or should I delete it and 
 create another dock folder?
 
 The Dock folder was re-instated a week or so ago after it disappeared, 
 probably due to my inadvertent dragging to to Trash.
 
 Regards, Alan
 
 Alan Smith
 Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.2
 iPad2; ATV2
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Question Mark Dock Icon for Downloads

2012-10-05 Thread Ronni Brown
Hi Alan,

 Did you mean to say to click and drag downloads from the sidebar, rather 
 than the house?  

NO, don't drag the Downloads from the Sidebar otherwise you will loose it.

Click on the House and then you will see the Downloads Folder  (under 
Documents folder) in the right column.
Click  Drag that 'Downloads Folder' and drop it on the dock in the position is 
used to be.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 06/10/2012, at 9:52 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hi Ronni
 
 Thanks for explaining the cause and solution.   Did you mean to say to click 
 and drag downloads from the sidebar, rather than the house?  
 
 The cause is a bit of a worry - but its at the bottom of my Worry List!
 
 Cheers
 Alan
 
 On 06/10/2012, at 9:15 AM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alan,
 
 The Question mark indicates that the Original app is either moved from 
 original location, or has been deleted.
 
 Click on the 'House' in the Finder's Sidebar and 'click  drag' it back to 
 the position on the dock.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.8.2 Mountain Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 On 06/10/2012, at 6:55 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 The Downloads Folder Dock icon has now changed to a question mark.  It is 
 still labelled Downloads, but can't be activated.  Had just installed OS X 
 10.8.2 Supp 1.0 (and iPhoto 9.4.1) following the auto App Store update 
 advice.   Is this a new feature or a warning?   Or should I delete it and 
 create another dock folder?
 
 The Dock folder was re-instated a week or so ago after it disappeared, 
 probably due to my inadvertent dragging to to Trash.
 
 Regards, Alan
 
 Alan Smith
 Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.2
 iPad2; ATV2
 

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Re: Question Mark Dock Icon for Downloads

2012-10-05 Thread Alan Smith
Hi Ronni

Thanks, now done.   I was concerned that dragging the sidebar entry would 
move it, and therefore lose it in Finder. I was reassured that in 
Preferences it was ticked to display -  and it did immediately recreate itself 
after I had clicked and dragged it.   Now (following instructions to the 
letter) I re-did the Dock item by dragging the actual folder.  Some more puffs 
of smoke for the virtual environment.

Cheers
Alan

On 06/10/2012, at 10:30 AM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

Hi Alan,

 Did you mean to say to click and drag downloads from the sidebar, rather 
 than the house?  

NO, don't drag the Downloads from the Sidebar otherwise you will loose it.

Click on the House and then you will see the Downloads Folder  (under 
Documents folder) in the right column.
Click  Drag that 'Downloads Folder' and drop it on the dock in the position is 
used to be.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 06/10/2012, at 9:52 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hi Ronni
 
 Thanks for explaining the cause and solution.   Did you mean to say to click 
 and drag downloads from the sidebar, rather than the house?  
 
 The cause is a bit of a worry - but its at the bottom of my Worry List!
 
 Cheers
 Alan
 
 On 06/10/2012, at 9:15 AM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alan,
 
 The Question mark indicates that the Original app is either moved from 
 original location, or has been deleted.
 
 Click on the 'House' in the Finder's Sidebar and 'click  drag' it back to 
 the position on the dock.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.8.2 Mountain Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 On 06/10/2012, at 6:55 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 The Downloads Folder Dock icon has now changed to a question mark.  It is 
 still labelled Downloads, but can't be activated.  Had just installed OS X 
 10.8.2 Supp 1.0 (and iPhoto 9.4.1) following the auto App Store update 
 advice.   Is this a new feature or a warning?   Or should I delete it and 
 create another dock folder?
 
 The Dock folder was re-instated a week or so ago after it disappeared, 
 probably due to my inadvertent dragging to to Trash.
 
 Regards, Alan
 
 Alan Smith
 Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.2
 iPad2; ATV2
 

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Mail Downloads

2012-09-10 Thread Bill Parker
Dear all, now I have Lion, I cannot find Mail Downloads.  That's been a life 
line in the past.  But now?  Where is it?

Bill


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Re: Mail Downloads

2012-09-10 Thread Peter Hinchliffe

On 11/09/2012, at 8:27 AM, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 Dear all, now I have Lion, I cannot find Mail Downloads.  That's been a 
 life line in the past.  But now?  Where is it?
 
 Bill
 


It's been moved to ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library. You will 
need to hold down the Option key while you click the Go Menu in Finder's Menu 
Bar to get access to your ~/Library folder in Lion.

Handy Hint: having found your ~/Library folder, drag its Proxy Icon (that 
little icon next to the Window Title) to your window's sidebar. You will have 
instant access to it in any Finder window from now on.

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

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Re: Mail Downloads

2012-09-10 Thread Bill Parker
Many thank Peter.I eventually found it by searching, but its obviously 
hidden.  If it ain't broke etc….

Bill
On 11/09/2012, at 8:41 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:

 
 On 11/09/2012, at 8:27 AM, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Dear all, now I have Lion, I cannot find Mail Downloads.  That's been a 
 life line in the past.  But now?  Where is it?
 
 Bill
 
 
 
 It's been moved to ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library. You will 
 need to hold down the Option key while you click the Go Menu in Finder's Menu 
 Bar to get access to your ~/Library folder in Lion.
 
 Handy Hint: having found your ~/Library folder, drag its Proxy Icon (that 
 little icon next to the Window Title) to your window's sidebar. You will have 
 instant access to it in any Finder window from now on.
 
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 Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
 
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iTunes downloads

2012-09-06 Thread Peter Crisp
Hi, a quick question about app downloads. 

If I download an app (paid) to my iPhone, can I download the same app to my 
wife's iPad (same Apple ID) without paying again? 

Sorry if I'm sounding like Bruce Willis!

Pete


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Re: iTunes downloads

2012-09-06 Thread Peter Crisp
I should add, my iPhone is synchronized to my (Win7) laptop and my wife's iPad 
is synchronized to her MacBook.

I am having trouble with Home Share between the Win7 machine and others in the 
network as a side issue necessitating my original question. I would just drag 
it over if home share weren't the issue it currently is for me.

Pete.



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 Hi, a quick question about app downloads. 
 
 If I download an app (paid) to my iPhone, can I download the same app to my 
 wife's iPad (same Apple ID) without paying again? 
 
 Sorry if I'm sounding like Bruce Willis!
 
 Pete
 
 
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Re: iTunes downloads

2012-09-06 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Peter,

Purchases are tied to your iTunes Account, not to the device. 
Your wife signs in to the iTunes Account on her iPad she can download the App.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 07/09/2012, at 7:20 AM, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 Hi, a quick question about app downloads. 
 
 If I download an app (paid) to my iPhone, can I download the same app to my 
 wife's iPad (same Apple ID) without paying again? 
 
 Sorry if I'm sounding like Bruce Willis!
 
 Pete
 

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Re: iTunes downloads

2012-09-06 Thread Peter Crisp
Thanks Ronni

Pete



On 07/09/2012, at 8:13 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Peter,
 
 Purchases are tied to your iTunes Account, not to the device. 
 Your wife signs in to the iTunes Account on her iPad she can download the App.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 07/09/2012, at 7:20 AM, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi, a quick question about app downloads. 
 
 If I download an app (paid) to my iPhone, can I download the same app to my 
 wife's iPad (same Apple ID) without paying again? 
 
 Sorry if I'm sounding like Bruce Willis!
 
 Pete
 
 
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Re: Mail Downloads folder (for email attachments)

2012-08-17 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi All,

Mail in Mountain Lion also saves attachments in another location as well, which 
is much harder to find and go through to delete attachments, especially if you 
have quite a few email accounts as I do  :-)

When you receive a message with attachments, Mail stores the raw source of the 
attachments inside the .emlx message file, and keeps a separate copy of the 
attachment alongside the message file in an Attachments folder (both are buried 
'very' deep within ~/Library/ Mail/V2/). 

~/Library/Mail/V2/  select 'one' of your Account Folders (if you have more 
than one account)/then... for an example I'll use my AosIMAP-ronni account path:
~/Library/Mail/V2/AosIMAP-ronni/INBOX.mbox/5457B4B6-xxx---etc/Data/then 
you find folders 0 to 9/ and inside each of those 9 folders are other folders/ 
click one folder/ Attachments/then another folder/then 2, 2.1 or 2.2?/ and 
there is an attachment (which I can 'control-click'-move to trash). Start again 
on another folder...  OMG drat this for a joke... Heck leave the attachments 
there, I don't have time to go through all these folders to find any 
attachments to delete. 

If you remove attachments from a selected message (by choosing Message  Remove 
Attachments), Mail modifies the .emlx file on disk that contains the message 
and also deletes the separate attachment file.

With Daniel's hint below with attachments in the Mail Downloads folder, you can 
choose when Mail deletes attachment copies in the Mail Downloads folder with 
the Remove Unedited Downloads pop-up menu on the Mail  Preferences  General 
pane. 
Choose 'Never' to retain the files indefinitely, or 'After Message is Deleted' 
or 'When Mail Quits' to delete them when you quit Mail.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 16/08/2012, at 6:50 PM, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:

 Hi All
 
 Just a little hint for those that may not be aware.
 
 In previous versions of Mac OS X Mail attachments that got opened from 
 within the email were saved into Mail Downloads folder. This used to live in 
 the ~/Library folder. (And again, in Lion, in the invisible Library folder).
 In Mountain Lion, this got moved to the following location  
 ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads. 
 
 This folder can take up a bit of space if not cleaned out. So worth a look at 
 to see how many hundreds of files may be there :o)
 (I've just checked mine which I normally clean out fairly regularly  and even 
 in a small amount of time in Mountain Lion there were about 40 files in 
 there).
 
 More information can be found here:-
 http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=2012080521491533
 
 Hope that helps others.
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
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Mail Downloads folder (for email attachments)

2012-08-16 Thread Daniel Kerr
Hi All

Just a little hint for those that may not be aware.

In previous versions of Mac OS X Mail attachments that got opened from within 
the email were saved into Mail Downloads folder. This used to live in the 
~/Library folder. (And again, in Lion, in the invisible Library folder).
In Mountain Lion, this got moved to the following location  
~/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads. 

This folder can take up a bit of space if not cleaned out. So worth a look at 
to see how many hundreds of files may be there :o)
(I've just checked mine which I normally clean out fairly regularly  and even 
in a small amount of time in Mountain Lion there were about 40 files in there).

More information can be found here:-
http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=2012080521491533

Hope that helps others.

Kind regards
Daniel

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Re: Mail Downloads folder (for email attachments)

2012-08-16 Thread Curtis Peter
Hi Daniel
Thanks for that info, I presume there is nothing in this file that needs to be 
kept other than for your own reasons?
Regards
Peter

On 16/08/2012, at 6:50 PM, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:

 Hi All
 
 Just a little hint for those that may not be aware.
 
 In previous versions of Mac OS X Mail attachments that got opened from 
 within the email were saved into Mail Downloads folder. This used to live in 
 the ~/Library folder. (And again, in Lion, in the invisible Library folder).
 In Mountain Lion, this got moved to the following location  
 ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads. 
 
 This folder can take up a bit of space if not cleaned out. So worth a look at 
 to see how many hundreds of files may be there :o)
 (I've just checked mine which I normally clean out fairly regularly  and even 
 in a small amount of time in Mountain Lion there were about 40 files in 
 there).
 
 More information can be found here:-
 http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=2012080521491533
 
 Hope that helps others.
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
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Re: Mail Downloads folder (for email attachments)

2012-08-16 Thread Daniel Kerr
Hi Peter

Correct. 
Basically if you get an attachment and double click it to view it then it will 
save to that folder and open in its associated program (eg .doc to Word, .pdf 
to Preview) etc. then if you save it from the email to the desktop or another 
folder you will have two copies (one where you put it and one in the library 
folder. 
If you then go back to the same email and double click the icon again it will 
open again and save another copy to the library folder. 
That's why sometimes you'll see the file 2,3 or more times. 
Eg filename.pdf then filename-1.pdf and so on. 
I once soon in a clients machine about 15 of the same 6mb file as they weren't 
aware it worked that way every time they re-clicked the file. After a bit of 
training ( and some cleaning up) all was good. I normally leave them a 
link/alias somewhere back to that folder do it's easy access to get to it to 
clean up. 
It doesn't take much for it to build to a few GB's of space. (sure hard drives 
have lots of space - but it all counts. 
And it's easier to clean up 100 files then 1200+ files as it builds up. Lol

So in answer to your question yes it will still stay in your email or your 
folder system where ever you file it to and the ones there can be deleted if 
you don't need them. 
(sorry for the ramble lol. )

Hope that helps. 

Kind regards
Daniel

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On 16/08/2012, at 7:08 PM, Curtis Peter pe...@augold.com.au wrote:

 Hi Daniel
 Thanks for that info, I presume there is nothing in this file that needs to 
 be kept other than for your own reasons?
 Regards
 Peter
 
 On 16/08/2012, at 6:50 PM, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi All
 
 Just a little hint for those that may not be aware.
 
 In previous versions of Mac OS X Mail attachments that got opened from 
 within the email were saved into Mail Downloads folder. This used to live in 
 the ~/Library folder. (And again, in Lion, in the invisible Library folder).
 In Mountain Lion, this got moved to the following location  
 ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads. 
 
 This folder can take up a bit of space if not cleaned out. So worth a look 
 at to see how many hundreds of files may be there :o)
 (I've just checked mine which I normally clean out fairly regularly  and 
 even in a small amount of time in Mountain Lion there were about 40 files in 
 there).
 
 More information can be found here:-
 http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=2012080521491533
 
 Hope that helps others.
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
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Re: Mail Downloads folder (for email attachments)

2012-08-16 Thread Stuart Breden
Thanks Daniel.

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On 16/08/2012, at 6:50 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

 Hi All
 
 Just a little hint for those that may not be aware.
 
 In previous versions of Mac OS X Mail attachments that got opened from 
 within the email were saved into Mail Downloads folder. This used to live in 
 the ~/Library folder. (And again, in Lion, in the invisible Library folder).
 In Mountain Lion, this got moved to the following location  
 ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads. 
 
 This folder can take up a bit of space if not cleaned out. So worth a look at 
 to see how many hundreds of files may be there :o)
 (I've just checked mine which I normally clean out fairly regularly  and even 
 in a small amount of time in Mountain Lion there were about 40 files in 
 there).
 
 More information can be found here:-
 http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=2012080521491533
 
 Hope that helps others.
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
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Downloads

2012-03-14 Thread Ian Reid
Good afternoon all.

My ageing memory, just like the whole of me, sometimes doesn't want to work. I 
am positive that, sometime recently, I have had on my screen a full list of 
Documents and their pathways but I can't remember how to repeat that. I can't 
find the appropriate reference in the manuals and guides available to me. Based 
on experience, I will probably remember some time within the next week but I 
would prefer to know how now.

Seeking your assistance.

Ian Reid

OSX 10.7.3
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Re: Downloads

2012-03-14 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Ian,

I’m not sure if I understand what you mean. Do you wish to view a finder window 
in “Column View” so you can follow the path of item?
Select your Home Folder - Go to View (in Menu Bar  Select “As Columns”

If that isn’t what you mean please post back.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 14/03/2012, at 2:24 PM, Ian Reid wrote:

 Good afternoon all.
 
 My ageing memory, just like the whole of me, sometimes doesn't want to work. 
 I am positive that, sometime recently, I have had on my screen a full list of 
 Documents and their pathways but I can't remember how to repeat that. I can't 
 find the appropriate reference in the manuals and guides available to me. 
 Based on experience, I will probably remember some time within the next week 
 but I would prefer to know how now.
 
 Seeking your assistance.
 
 Ian Reid
 
 OSX 10.7.3
 MacBook Pro
 2.4 Ghz Intel Cor i5

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Re: Downloads

2012-03-14 Thread Daniel Kerr
Or when in Finder go to View menu and there's a choice for something like Show 
File Path the file path then shows on the bottom of Finder windows. 
Don't have exact wording as driving (dictating) but Its something like that. :)

Kind regards
Daniel

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On 14/03/2012, at 2:30 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Ian,
 
 I’m not sure if I understand what you mean. Do you wish to view a finder 
 window in “Column View” so you can follow the path of item?
 Select your Home Folder - Go to View (in Menu Bar  Select “As Columns”
 
 If that isn’t what you mean please post back.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 14/03/2012, at 2:24 PM, Ian Reid wrote:
 
 Good afternoon all.
 
 My ageing memory, just like the whole of me, sometimes doesn't want to work. 
 I am positive that, sometime recently, I have had on my screen a full list 
 of Documents and their pathways but I can't remember how to repeat that. I 
 can't find the appropriate reference in the manuals and guides available to 
 me. Based on experience, I will probably remember some time within the next 
 week but I would prefer to know how now.
 
 Seeking your assistance.
 
 Ian Reid
 
 OSX 10.7.3
 MacBook Pro
 2.4 Ghz Intel Cor i5
 
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Re: Downloads

2012-03-14 Thread Ian Reid
Hi Ronni and Daniel

I have a current need to be going through and extracting data from old, paper, 
share and dividend records, some as old as 40 years. I have some quite 
extensive and useful printouts of Excel spreadsheets on file, dating up to 
1998. I had assumed that the originals would have disappeared at some change of 
computer or would be unreadable. 

Purely by chance I discovered one by Spotlight which is readable but have been 
unable to locate others. If there are any, I am sure they would be in the same 
folder, in Downloads. Hence my interest in seeing a display of all my Downloads 
again. 

I clearly recall thinking that this new facility would only be useful to small 
users like me with a few 'screens-full' of documents, not heavy users like you 
with acres of 'screens-full'.

Kind regards

Ian

On 14 Mar 2012, at 2:30 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

Hi Ian,

I’m not sure if I understand what you mean. Do you wish to view a finder window 
in “Column View” so you can follow the path of item?
Select your Home Folder - Go to View (in Menu Bar  Select “As Columns”

If that isn’t what you mean please post back.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 14/03/2012, at 2:24 PM, Ian Reid wrote:

 Good afternoon all.
 
 My ageing memory, just like the whole of me, sometimes doesn't want to work. 
 I am positive that, sometime recently, I have had on my screen a full list of 
 Documents and their pathways but I can't remember how to repeat that. I can't 
 find the appropriate reference in the manuals and guides available to me. 
 Based on experience, I will probably remember some time within the next week 
 but I would prefer to know how now.
 
 Seeking your assistance.
 
 Ian Reid
 
 OSX 10.7.3
 MacBook Pro
 2.4 Ghz Intel Cor i5

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Re: Downloads

2012-03-14 Thread Ray Forma
Ian,

I assume you downloaded the old Excel files you refer to from the Internet. I 
do so because that is how files normally end up in the 'Downloads' folder.

If not, then the files are very likely in your 'Documents' folder. However, if 
you import files by means other that the Internet, and you don't think 
carefully about what you are doing, then the files could be anywhere. Are you 
confident that you know how you have structured all of the folders on your Mac, 
and that you know exactly in which folder you stored them? Too many computer 
users have a totally unstructured folder structure, and therefore have lots of 
trouble finding documents.

Unfortunately, if your old Excel files were created on a Mac then they will not 
have a file extension. This is because before MacOS 10 the Macintosh OS did not 
need file extensions to work fully. If you are lucky, your old Excel files come 
from a Microsoft OS computer, in which case they will have file extensions that 
you can search for. In that case:

1 go to the Finder
2 press Command-F
3 choose to search for 'Name', then 'ends with' and enter '.xls' in the text 
box.
4 keep fingers crossed while all your Excel files appear in the search results
5 if in luck press the '+ and add a second search rule where 'Created date' is 
'before' a certain date.
6 improve your filing sytem and move all the relevant files into a relevant, 
well-named folder.
7 if the above does not work because the files don't have an extension then at 
least search for old files and try to use Excel to open each one.

On 14/03/2012, at 5:46 PM, Ian Reid wrote:

 Hi Ronni and Daniel
 
 I have a current need to be going through and extracting data from old, 
 paper, share and dividend records, some as old as 40 years. I have some quite 
 extensive and useful printouts of Excel spreadsheets on file, dating up to 
 1998. I had assumed that the originals would have disappeared at some change 
 of computer or would be unreadable. 
 
 Purely by chance I discovered one by Spotlight which is readable but have 
 been unable to locate others. If there are any, I am sure they would be in 
 the same folder, in Downloads. Hence my interest in seeing a display of all 
 my Downloads again. 
 
 I clearly recall thinking that this new facility would only be useful to 
 small users like me with a few 'screens-full' of documents, not heavy users 
 like you with acres of 'screens-full'.
 
 Kind regards
 
 Ian

Regards,

Ray Forma
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Re: gmail downloads to mail

2011-08-13 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi James,

On 13/08/2011, at 10:30 AM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:

 hello guys
 yesterday i tried to establish an account in mail (on a g5 system) to check 
 for new mail in the gmail aside of the existing iinet account
 with the gmail web access i tested the username/email adress  the password 
 which all appeared ok, in mail i added pop.gmail.com as server info (for mail 
 in)
 when i trigger the new mail command you see a wheel spinning for a while 
 then it stops w/o error message
 the iinet mails arrive ok
 what i'm missing??
 James

Hi James,

Have you tried Sending yourself a test email. The mail has to go out through 
your outgoing mail server and back into your incoming mail server. This is a 
good basic test of your account and server information.

As your ISP is iiNet, use mail.iinet.net.au as your outgoing mail SMTP server, 
but pop.gmail.com as your incoming mail server.

Also find out if you can reach your incoming mail server from your computer. 
Open Network Utility, located in Applications/Utilities, and click Ping. 
Ping is a simple network testing tool that shows whether a server computer is 
running and can be reached from your computer. 
Type the mail server name (such as pop.gmail.com) or IP address in the address 
field, and click Ping. 
If you see 10 repeating lines, then the server can be reached. 
If you see a message such as ping: unknown host bogus.gmail.com, then the 
server is either down or unreachable.

These are the settings for POP gmail account in Apple Mail:

Step 1

1. Click on “Mail” 
2. Click on “Preferences” 
3. Go to the “Accounts” tab 
4. Click on the “+” sign at the bottom of the accounts box

Step 2

1. Enter Your name, Your new email address and password (password as on your 
contract) 
2. Do NOT Tick “Automatically setup account”. Click Continue.

Step 3

1. Select “POP ”. 
2. Type a name for your account (this can be anything) 
3. Type “pop.gmail.com” 
4. Type your new email address here 
5. Type your password (same as your website password)   
   
6. Click Continue

Step 4

The outgoing mail SMTP server depends on who your internet provider.

1. Type a name for this. E.g iiNet, Bigpond or Optus, who you use for internet.
2. Enter the SMTP server for your Internet provider, (in your case 
mail.iinet.net.au
and tick “Use only this server”.
3. Do NOT tick “Use Authentication” 
4. Click continue 
5. Click create

Cheers,
Ronni

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gmail downloads to mail

2011-08-12 Thread James / Hans Kunz
hello guys
yesterday i tried to establish an account in mail (on a g5 system) to check for 
new mail in the gmail aside of the existing iinet account
with the gmail web access i tested the username/email adress  the password 
which all appeared ok, in mail i added pop.gmail.com as server info (for mail 
in)
when i trigger the new mail command you see a wheel spinning for a while then 
it stops w/o error message
the iinet mails arrive ok
what i'm missing??
James

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Re: Slow Downloads?

2011-02-26 Thread Rod Blitvich
Thanks Ronni and Eugene.Will try the upgrade Ronni.cheersRod
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On 26/02/2011, at 3:12 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:Sorry Blitto,I meant to mention that upgrading the Firmware on the Netgear should help a bit also.If your Netgear is the same as mine 'NETGEAR Wireless-G Modem Router DG834G v4'Upgrade Firmware to v5.01.16http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/13354Cheers,RonniOn 26/02/2011, at 3:06 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:Hi Blitto,Hmm, should be faster connected by Ethernet not wireless.I have a Netgear DG834G v4 … but use a 1TB Time Capsule setup as a 'Simultaneous dual-band 802.11n Wi-Fi base station’.I don’t use the slower wireless b/g of the Netgear Wireless Router.Do you have an Airport Express N or Extreme N.If so, turn OFF wireless on the Netgear and setup the wireless Network on it.I’m so waiting for Apple to bring out a Modem/Router 2TB Time Capsule ;-)Cheers,RonniOn 26/02/2011, at 2:50 PM, Rod Blitvich wrote:Hi RonniTried that - no dif.Bugger!PSMay the sea-breeze find you this arvo:)ta
image.gifRod Blitvich-Amy  Sam’s Dad. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .0409 681 256 rb...@iinet.net.auhttp://web.me.com/blittoI haven't lost my mind.it's backed up on disksomewhere!


On 26/02/2011, at 2:51 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:Hi Blitto,Connect directly via Ethernet not Wireless should be faster.Sent from Ronni's iPadOn 26/02/2011, at 2:35 PM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:Hi WAMUGersPlease could I ask for your advice?I bought a movie on iTunes store (10.1.2) this morning."Out of Africa" - 2 GBIt is still downloading!Basically it will take 6 hours to download so is this a bit long or am I just impatient?My Speedtest scores over recent months are: between 1.5 - 2.3 Mb/sI have tried the following:restart routerrestart macbook pro - 10.6.6turn off other macs in the houseIs it time to buy a new Wireless Router? (mine is G, will N be faster?) Netgear DG834G Wireless-G Router with Built-in DSL ModemWireless: 802.11g access point auto rate capable up to 54 MbpsOr is my problem living in old Sorrento that I am too far from the exchange or on old copper wires that wont go faster?iinet Home 4 ADSL30 GB Peak quotaCurrently unshapedmany thanksBlitto-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtmlGuidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtmlUnsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.auimage.gifRod Blitvich - Amy  Sam’s Dad. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0409 681 256 rb...@iinet.net.au http://web.me.com/blittoA Life? Cool! Where can I download one of those from?-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtmlGuidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtmlUnsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au



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Re: Slow Downloads?

2011-02-26 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Blitto,

Upgrading the Firmware does not change that you are still connecting at b/g 
speeds.
A Airport Extreme N / Airport Time Capsule N or Airport Express N will connect 
at b/g  n speeds/

Wireless G uses the IEEE802.11g wireless ethernet standard and has a max speed 
of 54mbps.

Wireless N uses the draft IEEE802.11n standard. Wireless N uses 
Multiple-Input-Multiple-Output technology to achieve speeds of up to 100mbps.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/02/2011, at 5:01 PM, Rod Blitvich wrote:

 Thanks Ronni and Eugene.
 Will try the upgrade Ronni.
 cheers
 Rod
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 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
  0409 681 256  
  rb...@iinet.net.au 
  http://web.me.com/blitto
 
 A Life? Cool! Where can I download one of those from?
 
 
 On 26/02/2011, at 3:12 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Sorry Blitto,
 
 I meant to mention that upgrading the Firmware on the Netgear should help a 
 bit also.
 
 If your Netgear is the same as mine 'NETGEAR Wireless-G Modem Router DG834G 
 v4'
 Upgrade Firmware to v5.01.16 
 http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/13354
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 26/02/2011, at 3:06 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Blitto,
 
 Hmm, should be faster connected by Ethernet not wireless.
 
 I have a Netgear DG834G v4  … but use a 1TB Time Capsule setup as a 
 'Simultaneous dual-band 802.11n Wi-Fi base station’.
 I don’t use the slower wireless b/g of the Netgear Wireless Router. 
 
 Do you have an Airport Express N or Extreme N.
 If so, turn OFF wireless on the Netgear and setup the wireless Network on 
 it.
 
 I’m so waiting for Apple to bring out a Modem/Router 2TB Time Capsule ;-)
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 26/02/2011, at 2:50 PM, Rod Blitvich wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 Tried that - no dif.
 Bugger!
 
 
 PS
 May the sea-breeze find you this arvo
 :)
 ta
 
 
 image.gif
 Rod Blitvich  - Amy  Sam’s Dad
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
  0409 681 256  
  rb...@iinet.net.au 
  http://web.me.com/blitto
 
 I haven't lost my mind..
  ...it's backed up on disk somewhere!
 
 On 26/02/2011, at 2:51 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 
 Hi Blitto,
 
 Connect directly via Ethernet not Wireless should be faster.
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 On 26/02/2011, at 2:35 PM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi WAMUGers
 Please could I ask for your advice?
 
 I bought a movie on iTunes store (10.1.2) this morning.
 Out of Africa - 2 GB
 
 It is still downloading!
 Basically it will take 6 hours to download.
 ... so is this a bit long or am I just impatient?
 
 My Speedtest scores over recent months are:  between 1.5 - 2.3 Mb/s
 
 
 I have tried the following:
 restart router
 restart macbook pro - 10.6.6
 turn off other macs in the house
 
 Is it time to buy a new Wireless Router? (mine is G, will N be faster?) 
 Netgear DG834G Wireless-G Router with Built-in DSL Modem
 Wireless: 802.11g access point auto rate capable up to 54 Mbps
 
 Or is my problem living in old Sorrento that I am too far from the 
 exchange or on old copper wires that wont go faster?
 
 iinet Home 4 ADSL
 30 GB Peak quota
 Currently unshaped
 
 
 many thanks
 Blitto




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Re: Slow Downloads?

2011-02-26 Thread Rod Blitvich
Thanks RonniSo should i buy a N router?taRod
Rod Blitvich-Amy  Sam’s Dad. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .0409 681 256 rb...@iinet.net.auhttp://web.me.com/blittoI haven't lost my mind.it's backed up on disksomewhere!


On 26/02/2011, at 6:34 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:Hi Blitto,Upgrading the Firmware does not change that you are still connecting at b/g speeds.A Airport Extreme N / Airport Time Capsule N or Airport Express N will connect at b/g  n speeds/Wireless G uses the IEEE802.11g wireless ethernet standard and has a max speed of 54mbps.Wireless N uses the draft IEEE802.11n standard.Wireless N uses Multiple-Input-Multiple-Output technology to achieve speeds of up to 100mbps.Cheers,RonniOn 26/02/2011, at 5:01 PM, Rod Blitvich wrote:Thanks Ronni and Eugene.Will try the upgrade Ronni.cheersRod
image.gifRod Blitvich-Amy  Sam’s Dad. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .0409 681 256 rb...@iinet.net.auhttp://web.me.com/blittoA Life? Cool! Where can I download one of those from?

On 26/02/2011, at 3:12 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:Sorry Blitto,I meant to mention that upgrading the Firmware on the Netgear should help a bit also.If your Netgear is the same as mine 'NETGEAR Wireless-G Modem Router DG834G v4'Upgrade Firmware to v5.01.16http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/13354Cheers,RonniOn 26/02/2011, at 3:06 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:Hi Blitto,Hmm, should be faster connected by Ethernet not wireless.I have a Netgear DG834G v4 … but use a 1TB Time Capsule setup as a 'Simultaneous dual-band 802.11n Wi-Fi base station’.I don’t use the slower wireless b/g of the Netgear Wireless Router.Do you have an Airport Express N or Extreme N.If so, turn OFF wireless on the Netgear and setup the wireless Network on it.I’m so waiting for Apple to bring out a Modem/Router 2TB Time Capsule ;-)Cheers,RonniOn 26/02/2011, at 2:50 PM, Rod Blitvich wrote:Hi RonniTried that - no dif.Bugger!PSMay the sea-breeze find you this arvo:)ta
image.gifRod Blitvich-Amy  Sam’s Dad. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .0409 681 256 rb...@iinet.net.auhttp://web.me.com/blittoI haven't lost my mind.it's backed up on disksomewhere!


On 26/02/2011, at 2:51 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:Hi Blitto,Connect directly via Ethernet not Wireless should be faster.Sent from Ronni's iPadOn 26/02/2011, at 2:35 PM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:Hi WAMUGersPlease could I ask for your advice?I bought a movie on iTunes store (10.1.2) this morning."Out of Africa" - 2 GBIt is still downloading!Basically it will take 6 hours to download so is this a bit long or am I just impatient?My Speedtest scores over recent months are: between 1.5 - 2.3 Mb/sI have tried the following:restart routerrestart macbook pro - 10.6.6turn off other macs in the houseIs it time to buy a new Wireless Router? (mine is G, will N be faster?) Netgear DG834G Wireless-G Router with Built-in DSL ModemWireless: 802.11g access point auto rate capable up to 54 MbpsOr is my problem living in old Sorrento that I am too far from the exchange or on old copper wires that wont go faster?iinet Home 4 ADSL30 GB Peak quotaCurrently unshapedmany thanksBlitto



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Re: Slow Downloads?

2011-02-26 Thread Daniel Kerr

Hi Rod

If you're wanting faster on wireless, then the N routers do make a
difference.
The Netgear DG-2000 is N compatible and quite well priced.
Otherwise, and if you don't have a current backup system at home, the a 1TB
Time Capsule can do some similar.
You let the Netgear handle all the internet connection and the Time Capsule
does all the wireless and Time Machine backup (Wirelessly). (Set the Time
Capsule to Bridge mode).
You can then have the Time Capsule doing dual band wireless (N and b/g) and
have the benefit of wireless Time Machine backup to the Time Capsule.
That's similar to the setup I have here.

Hope that helps a little.

Kind Regards
Daniel


On 26/2/11 8:54 PM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Thanks Ronni
 So should i buy a N router?
 ta
 Rod
 
 
 
 Rod Blitvich  - Amy  Sam¹s Dad
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
  0409 681 256  
  rb...@iinet.net.au
  http://web.me.com/blitto
 
 I haven't lost my mind..
  ...it's backed up on disk somewhere!
 
 On 26/02/2011, at 6:34 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Blitto,
 
 Upgrading the Firmware does not change that you are still connecting at b/g
 speeds.
 A Airport Extreme N / Airport Time Capsule N or Airport Express N will
 connect at b/g  n speeds/
 
 Wireless G uses the IEEE802.11g wireless ethernet standard and has a max
 speed of 54mbps.
 
 Wireless N uses the draft IEEE802.11n standard. Wireless N uses
 Multiple-Input-Multiple-Output technology to achieve speeds of up to 100mbps.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 26/02/2011, at 5:01 PM, Rod Blitvich wrote:
 
 Thanks Ronni and Eugene.
 Will try the upgrade Ronni.
 cheers
 Rod
 image.gif
  Rod Blitvich  - Amy  Sam¹s Dad
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
  0409 681 256  
  rb...@iinet.net.au
  http://web.me.com/blitto
 
 A Life? Cool! Where can I download one of those from?
 
 
 On 26/02/2011, at 3:12 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Sorry Blitto,
 
 I meant to mention that upgrading the Firmware on the Netgear should help a
 bit also.
 
 If your Netgear is the same as mine 'NETGEAR Wireless-G Modem Router DG834G
 v4'
 Upgrade Firmware to v5.01.16
 http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/13354
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 26/02/2011, at 3:06 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Blitto,
 
 Hmm, should be faster connected by Ethernet not wireless.
 
 I have a Netgear DG834G v4  Š but use a 1TB Time Capsule setup as a
 'Simultaneous dual-band 802.11n Wi-Fi base station¹.
 I don¹t use the slower wireless b/g of the Netgear Wireless Router.
 
 Do you have an Airport Express N or Extreme N.
 If so, turn OFF wireless on the Netgear and setup the wireless Network on
 it.
 
 I¹m so waiting for Apple to bring out a Modem/Router 2TB Time Capsule ;-)
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 26/02/2011, at 2:50 PM, Rod Blitvich wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 Tried that - no dif.
 Bugger!
 
 
 PS
 May the sea-breeze find you this arvo
 :)
 ta
 
 
 image.gif
 Rod Blitvich  - Amy  Sam¹s Dad
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
  0409 681 256
  rb...@iinet.net.au
  http://web.me.com/blitto
 
 I haven't lost my mind..
  ...it's backed up on disk somewhere!
 
 On 26/02/2011, at 2:51 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 
 Hi Blitto,
 
 Connect directly via Ethernet not Wireless should be faster.
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 On 26/02/2011, at 2:35 PM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi WAMUGers
 Please could I ask for your advice?
 
 I bought a movie on iTunes store (10.1.2) this morning.
 Out of Africa - 2 GB
 
 It is still downloading!
 Basically it will take 6 hours to download.
 ... so is this a bit long or am I just impatient?
 
 My Speedtest scores over recent months are:  between 1.5 - 2.3 Mb/s
 
 
 I have tried the following:
 restart router
 restart macbook pro - 10.6.6
 turn off other macs in the house
 
 Is it time to buy a new Wireless Router? (mine is G, will N be faster?)
 Netgear DG834G Wireless-G Router with Built-in DSL Modem
 Wireless: 802.11g access point auto rate capable up to 54 Mbps
 
 Or is my problem living in old Sorrento that I am too far from the
 exchange or on old copper wires that wont go faster?
 
 iinet Home 4 ADSL
 30 GB Peak quota
 Currently unshaped
 
 
 many thanks
 Blitto
 
 
 
 
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Re: Slow Downloads?

2011-02-26 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi Blitto,

What Daniel has mentioned is what I said in my previous reply to you. It is how 
I have my Network setup with my Netgear DG834Gv4 connected to a 1TB Time 
Capsule. 
The 1TB TC is configured as a 'Simultaneous Dual-Band 802.11n Wi-FI Base 
Station.
My Macs, iPad, iPhone all connect to the Dual-Band Network  the slower b/g 
devices don't slow down the N capable devices connection speed.

The Netgear handles the connection to the Internet  the TC handles everything 
else, the Wireless Network / Time Machine Backups.

I'm just wishing and hoping that Apple will release a 2TB Time Capsule with an 
Inbuilt Modem so it will do everything! We won't have to have a separate Modem. 
This is what I have been wanting Apple to do for years!

Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 26/02/2011, at 9:01 PM, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:

 
 Hi Rod
 
 If you're wanting faster on wireless, then the N routers do make a
 difference.
 The Netgear DG-2000 is N compatible and quite well priced.
 Otherwise, and if you don't have a current backup system at home, the a 1TB
 Time Capsule can do some similar.
 You let the Netgear handle all the internet connection and the Time Capsule
 does all the wireless and Time Machine backup (Wirelessly). (Set the Time
 Capsule to Bridge mode).
 You can then have the Time Capsule doing dual band wireless (N and b/g) and
 have the benefit of wireless Time Machine backup to the Time Capsule.
 That's similar to the setup I have here.
 
 Hope that helps a little.
 
 Kind Regards
 Daniel
 
 
 On 26/2/11 8:54 PM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Thanks Ronni
 So should i buy a N router?
 ta
 Rod
 
 
 
 Rod Blitvich  - Amy  Sam’s Dad
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
 0409 681 256  
 rb...@iinet.net.au
 http://web.me.com/blitto
 
 I haven't lost my mind..
 ...it's backed up on disk somewhere!
 
 On 26/02/2011, at 6:34 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Blitto,
 
 Upgrading the Firmware does not change that you are still connecting at b/g
 speeds.
 A Airport Extreme N / Airport Time Capsule N or Airport Express N will
 connect at b/g  n speeds/
 
 Wireless G uses the IEEE802.11g wireless ethernet standard and has a max
 speed of 54mbps.
 
 Wireless N uses the draft IEEE802.11n standard. Wireless N uses
 Multiple-Input-Multiple-Output technology to achieve speeds of up to 
 100mbps.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 26/02/2011, at 5:01 PM, Rod Blitvich wrote:
 
 Thanks Ronni and Eugene.
 Will try the upgrade Ronni.
 cheers
 Rod
 image.gif
 Rod Blitvich  - Amy  Sam’s Dad
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
 0409 681 256  
 rb...@iinet.net.au
 http://web.me.com/blitto
 
 A Life? Cool! Where can I download one of those from?
 
 
 On 26/02/2011, at 3:12 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Sorry Blitto,
 
 I meant to mention that upgrading the Firmware on the Netgear should help 
 a
 bit also.
 
 If your Netgear is the same as mine 'NETGEAR Wireless-G Modem Router 
 DG834G
 v4'
 Upgrade Firmware to v5.01.16
 http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/13354
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 26/02/2011, at 3:06 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Blitto,
 
 Hmm, should be faster connected by Ethernet not wireless.
 
 I have a Netgear DG834G v4  … but use a 1TB Time Capsule setup as a
 'Simultaneous dual-band 802.11n Wi-Fi base station’.
 I don’t use the slower wireless b/g of the Netgear Wireless Router.
 
 Do you have an Airport Express N or Extreme N.
 If so, turn OFF wireless on the Netgear and setup the wireless Network on
 it.
 
 I’m so waiting for Apple to bring out a Modem/Router 2TB Time Capsule ;-)
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 26/02/2011, at 2:50 PM, Rod Blitvich wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 Tried that - no dif.
 Bugger!
 
 
 PS
 May the sea-breeze find you this arvo
 :)
 ta
 
 
 image.gif
 Rod Blitvich  - Amy  Sam’s Dad
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
 0409 681 256
 rb...@iinet.net.au
 http://web.me.com/blitto
 
 I haven't lost my mind..
 ...it's backed up on disk somewhere!
 
 On 26/02/2011, at 2:51 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 
 Hi Blitto,
 
 Connect directly via Ethernet not Wireless should be faster.
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 On 26/02/2011, at 2:35 PM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi WAMUGers
 Please could I ask for your advice?
 
 I bought a movie on iTunes store (10.1.2) this morning.
 Out of Africa - 2 GB
 
 It is still downloading!
 Basically it will take 6 hours to download.
 ... so is this a bit long or am I just impatient?
 
 My Speedtest scores over recent months are:  between 1.5 - 2.3 Mb/s
 
 
 I have tried the following:
 restart router
 restart macbook pro - 10.6.6
 turn off other macs in the house
 
 Is it time to buy a new Wireless Router? (mine is G, will N be 
 faster?)
 Netgear DG834G Wireless-G Router with Built-in DSL Modem
 Wireless: 802.11g access point auto rate capable up to 54 Mbps
 
 Or is my problem living in old Sorrento that I am too far from the
 exchange or on old copper wires that wont go faster?
 
 iinet Home 4 

Re: Slow Downloads?

2011-02-26 Thread Daniel Kerr

Although I'd like to see this too, I can't see it happen.
The reason I can't see it happening is that as internet changes then the
modem becomes Redundant or out-dated.
Also, if someone is on cable, which is generally different, then the modem
is of no use to them. So it limits their scope to sell too.
Take modems that were only capable of ADSL. When ADSL2/2+ came out,..the
modem was no good. So you bought a new modem to handle ADSL1- ADSL2/2+.
By adding the modem to the Time Capsule, then if something changes again,
you have to buy a new Time Capsule.

Whereas now, you just buy the modem and run the Time Capsule to it. Doesn't
matter if you're on ADSL, ADSL2/2+, Cable, Wireless, ISDN,..etc. :o)

That's my thinking on it anyway :o)

Kind Regards
Daniel


On 26/2/11 9:44 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 I'm just wishing and hoping that Apple will release a 2TB Time Capsule with an
 Inbuilt Modem so it will do everything! We won't have to have a separate
 Modem. 
 This is what I have been wanting Apple to do for years!

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MacWizardry

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Re: Slow Downloads?

2011-02-26 Thread Ronda Brown

Yes Daniel, you and I would like to see this happen, but it won’t happen!

Apple AirPort base stations (including the Time Capsule) don't include modem 
functionality. 
I imagine it's because Apple doesn't want to sell two versions of each base 
station, one for DSL and the other for cable.

I believe different DSL providers use differing technology. 
Integrating an ADSL bridge into an Airport device would limit the number of 
providers who would be able to utilise the integration.
 
It would be nice though!

Cheers,
Ronni


On 26/02/2011, at 9:53 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

 
 Although I'd like to see this too, I can't see it happen.
 The reason I can't see it happening is that as internet changes then the
 modem becomes Redundant or out-dated.
 Also, if someone is on cable, which is generally different, then the modem
 is of no use to them. So it limits their scope to sell too.
 Take modems that were only capable of ADSL. When ADSL2/2+ came out,..the
 modem was no good. So you bought a new modem to handle ADSL1- ADSL2/2+.
 By adding the modem to the Time Capsule, then if something changes again,
 you have to buy a new Time Capsule.
 
 Whereas now, you just buy the modem and run the Time Capsule to it. Doesn't
 matter if you're on ADSL, ADSL2/2+, Cable, Wireless, ISDN,..etc. :o)
 
 That's my thinking on it anyway :o)
 
 Kind Regards
 Daniel
 
 
 On 26/2/11 9:44 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 I'm just wishing and hoping that Apple will release a 2TB Time Capsule with 
 an
 Inbuilt Modem so it will do everything! We won't have to have a separate
 Modem. 
 This is what I have been wanting Apple to do for years!
 




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Re: Slow Downloads?

2011-02-26 Thread Stuart Evans
Hate to throw my nerdy hat in the ringbut...

I come across network throughput discussions a lot in my work with
businesses and schools. Networks aren't simple. There are a few factors
impacting speed. Always consider the ³end to end² path of the traffic.
Apologies if you've read this before.

There are stacks of formulas that calculate actual network speeds but let's
put the technical stuff to one side and keep it basic.

Best ADSL2+ speed - 24Mbps  (if you're close to the exchange)
Cable - 30Mbps (ditto)
NextG - 8Mbps (some anecdotal stories of 10-11Mbps downloads reached)


Wireless-G: 54Mbps (Theoretical - depends on proximity)
Wireless-NL 150Mbps (Theoretical)
Ethernet - 10Mbps/100Mbps/1000Mbps (Depends on switch/device)
I won't go into Fibre!

The point is, if you are downloading a file from the Internet, your
bottleneck is your Internet connection method. Unless you have a really poor
performing Wireless modem/router, even that is faster than your best ADSL2+
connection. Unless you're lucky enough to have 100Mbps (NBN anyone?) ;-)
Sometimes, just sometimes, you may get a slight improvement in file transfer
time by connecting to Ethernet rather than Wireless-G, but that can be due
to interference of cordless devices on the 2.4GHz spectrum.

Note: if you are transferring files between computers on your own network
then your method of connection can have an impact.


Cheers,
Stuart 


Remember that all 'network' traffic has overheads (packet/frame headers,
acknowledgements, protocol checks etc) so even if you have a 100Mbps link
you won't transfer a 100Mb file in one second. (Note it is a little b and
that means bits not bytes!). In between you and the other site you're linked
to is a number of exchanges and equipment and other people sharing links
that can impact on your communication speeds.


On 26/02/11 10:22 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 
 Yes Daniel, you and I would like to see this happen, but it won¹t happen!
 
 Apple AirPort base stations (including the Time Capsule) don't include modem
 functionality. 
 I imagine it's because Apple doesn't want to sell two versions of each base
 station, one for DSL and the other for cable.
 
 I believe different DSL providers use differing technology.
 Integrating an ADSL bridge into an Airport device would limit the number of
 providers who would be able to utilise the integration.
  
 It would be nice though!
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 
 On 26/02/2011, at 9:53 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
 
 
 Although I'd like to see this too, I can't see it happen.
 The reason I can't see it happening is that as internet changes then the
 modem becomes Redundant or out-dated.
 Also, if someone is on cable, which is generally different, then the modem
 is of no use to them. So it limits their scope to sell too.
 Take modems that were only capable of ADSL. When ADSL2/2+ came out,..the
 modem was no good. So you bought a new modem to handle ADSL1- ADSL2/2+.
 By adding the modem to the Time Capsule, then if something changes again,
 you have to buy a new Time Capsule.
 
 Whereas now, you just buy the modem and run the Time Capsule to it. Doesn't
 matter if you're on ADSL, ADSL2/2+, Cable, Wireless, ISDN,..etc. :o)
 
 That's my thinking on it anyway :o)
 
 Kind Regards
 Daniel
 
 
 On 26/2/11 9:44 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 I'm just wishing and hoping that Apple will release a 2TB Time Capsule with
 an
 Inbuilt Modem so it will do everything! We won't have to have a separate
 Modem. 
 This is what I have been wanting Apple to do for years!
 
 
 
 
 
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Slow Downloads?

2011-02-25 Thread Rod Blitvich
Hi WAMUGers
Please could I ask for your advice?

I bought a movie on iTunes store (10.1.2) this morning.
Out of Africa - 2 GB

It is still downloading!
Basically it will take 6 hours to download.
... so is this a bit long or am I just impatient?

My Speedtest scores over recent months are:  between 1.5 - 2.3 Mb/s


I have tried the following:
restart router
restart macbook pro - 10.6.6
turn off other macs in the house

Is it time to buy a new Wireless Router? (mine is G, will N be faster?) Netgear 
DG834G Wireless-G Router with Built-in DSL Modem
Wireless: 802.11g access point auto rate capable up to 54 Mbps

Or is my problem living in old Sorrento that I am too far from the exchange or 
on old copper wires that wont go faster?

iinet Home 4 ADSL
30 GB Peak quota
Currently unshaped


many thanks
Blitto





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Re: Slow Downloads?

2011-02-25 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi Blitto,

Connect directly via Ethernet not Wireless should be faster.

Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 26/02/2011, at 2:35 PM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hi WAMUGers
 Please could I ask for your advice?
 
 I bought a movie on iTunes store (10.1.2) this morning.
 Out of Africa - 2 GB
 
 It is still downloading!
 Basically it will take 6 hours to download.
 ... so is this a bit long or am I just impatient?
 
 My Speedtest scores over recent months are:  between 1.5 - 2.3 Mb/s
 
 
 I have tried the following:
 restart router
 restart macbook pro - 10.6.6
 turn off other macs in the house
 
 Is it time to buy a new Wireless Router? (mine is G, will N be faster?) 
 Netgear DG834G Wireless-G Router with Built-in DSL Modem
 Wireless: 802.11g access point auto rate capable up to 54 Mbps
 
 Or is my problem living in old Sorrento that I am too far from the exchange 
 or on old copper wires that wont go faster?
 
 iinet Home 4 ADSL
 30 GB Peak quota
 Currently unshaped
 
 
 many thanks
 Blitto
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Slow Downloads?

2011-02-25 Thread Rod Blitvich
Hi RonniTried that - no dif.Bugger!PSMay the sea-breeze find you this arvo:)ta
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On 26/02/2011, at 2:51 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:Hi Blitto,Connect directly via Ethernet not Wireless should be faster.Sent from Ronni's iPadOn 26/02/2011, at 2:35 PM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:Hi WAMUGersPlease could I ask for your advice?I bought a movie on iTunes store (10.1.2) this morning."Out of Africa" - 2 GBIt is still downloading!Basically it will take 6 hours to download so is this a bit long or am I just impatient?My Speedtest scores over recent months are: between 1.5 - 2.3 Mb/sI have tried the following:restart routerrestart macbook pro - 10.6.6turn off other macs in the houseIs it time to buy a new Wireless Router? (mine is G, will N be faster?) Netgear DG834G Wireless-G Router with Built-in DSL ModemWireless: 802.11g access point auto rate capable up to 54 MbpsOr is my problem living in old Sorrento that I am too far from the exchange or on old copper wires that wont go faster?iinet Home 4 ADSL30 GB Peak quotaCurrently unshapedmany thanksBlitto-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtmlGuidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtmlUnsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.auimage.gifRod Blitvich - Amy  Sam’s Dad. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0409 681 256 rb...@iinet.net.au http://web.me.com/blittoA Life? Cool! Where can I download one of those from?-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtmlGuidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtmlUnsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au



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Re: Slow Downloads?

2011-02-25 Thread Rod Blitvich
oops Ronni! Just tried ethernet againyes! quicker!ta38 min left became 22 minta
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Re: Slow Downloads?

2011-02-25 Thread Eugene
Hi Rod,

today I downloaded from iTunes 2.7Gb of applications from the Apple store using 
iiNet. It warned initially that the downloads would take over an hour and ended 
out taking 1 hr and 8 minutes. I find that when I am in the other room 
immediately near the router it is a lot faster but I was too lazy to move..

I'm using iiNets naked ADSL 2+ with Belkin wireless router over the wireless.

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On 26/02/2011, at 2:35 PM, Rod Blitvich wrote:

 Hi WAMUGers
 Please could I ask for your advice?
 
 I bought a movie on iTunes store (10.1.2) this morning.
 Out of Africa - 2 GB
 
 It is still downloading!
 Basically it will take 6 hours to download.
 ... so is this a bit long or am I just impatient?
 
 My Speedtest scores over recent months are:  between 1.5 - 2.3 Mb/s
 
 
 I have tried the following:
 restart router
 restart macbook pro - 10.6.6
 turn off other macs in the house
 
 Is it time to buy a new Wireless Router? (mine is G, will N be faster?) 
 Netgear DG834G Wireless-G Router with Built-in DSL Modem
 Wireless: 802.11g access point auto rate capable up to 54 Mbps
 
 Or is my problem living in old Sorrento that I am too far from the exchange 
 or on old copper wires that wont go faster?
 
 iinet Home 4 ADSL
 30 GB Peak quota
 Currently unshaped
 
 
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Re: Slow Downloads?

2011-02-25 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Blitto,

Hmm, should be faster connected by Ethernet not wireless.

I have a Netgear DG834G v4  … but use a 1TB Time Capsule setup as a 
'Simultaneous dual-band 802.11n Wi-Fi base station’.
I don’t use the slower wireless b/g of the Netgear Wireless Router. 

Do you have an Airport Express N or Extreme N.
If so, turn OFF wireless on the Netgear and setup the wireless Network on it.

I’m so waiting for Apple to bring out a Modem/Router 2TB Time Capsule ;-)

Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/02/2011, at 2:50 PM, Rod Blitvich wrote:

 Hi Ronni
 Tried that - no dif.
 Bugger!
 
 
 PS
 May the sea-breeze find you this arvo
 :)
 ta
 
 
 image.gif
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 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
  0409 681 256  
  rb...@iinet.net.au 
  http://web.me.com/blitto
 
 I haven't lost my mind..
  ...it's backed up on disk somewhere!
 
 On 26/02/2011, at 2:51 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 
 Hi Blitto,
 
 Connect directly via Ethernet not Wireless should be faster.
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 On 26/02/2011, at 2:35 PM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi WAMUGers
 Please could I ask for your advice?
 
 I bought a movie on iTunes store (10.1.2) this morning.
 Out of Africa - 2 GB
 
 It is still downloading!
 Basically it will take 6 hours to download.
 ... so is this a bit long or am I just impatient?
 
 My Speedtest scores over recent months are:  between 1.5 - 2.3 Mb/s
 
 
 I have tried the following:
 restart router
 restart macbook pro - 10.6.6
 turn off other macs in the house
 
 Is it time to buy a new Wireless Router? (mine is G, will N be faster?) 
 Netgear DG834G Wireless-G Router with Built-in DSL Modem
 Wireless: 802.11g access point auto rate capable up to 54 Mbps
 
 Or is my problem living in old Sorrento that I am too far from the exchange 
 or on old copper wires that wont go faster?
 
 iinet Home 4 ADSL
 30 GB Peak quota
 Currently unshaped
 
 
 many thanks
 Blitto
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Slow Downloads?

2011-02-25 Thread Ronda Brown
Sorry Blitto,

I meant to mention that upgrading the Firmware on the Netgear should help a bit 
also.

If your Netgear is the same as mine 'NETGEAR Wireless-G Modem Router DG834G v4'
Upgrade Firmware to v5.01.16 
http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/13354

Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/02/2011, at 3:06 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Blitto,
 
 Hmm, should be faster connected by Ethernet not wireless.
 
 I have a Netgear DG834G v4  … but use a 1TB Time Capsule setup as a 
 'Simultaneous dual-band 802.11n Wi-Fi base station’.
 I don’t use the slower wireless b/g of the Netgear Wireless Router. 
 
 Do you have an Airport Express N or Extreme N.
 If so, turn OFF wireless on the Netgear and setup the wireless Network on it.
 
 I’m so waiting for Apple to bring out a Modem/Router 2TB Time Capsule ;-)
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 26/02/2011, at 2:50 PM, Rod Blitvich wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 Tried that - no dif.
 Bugger!
 
 
 PS
 May the sea-breeze find you this arvo
 :)
 ta
 
 
 image.gif
 Rod Blitvich  - Amy  Sam’s Dad
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
  0409 681 256  
  rb...@iinet.net.au 
  http://web.me.com/blitto
 
 I haven't lost my mind..
  ...it's backed up on disk somewhere!
 
 On 26/02/2011, at 2:51 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 
 Hi Blitto,
 
 Connect directly via Ethernet not Wireless should be faster.
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 On 26/02/2011, at 2:35 PM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi WAMUGers
 Please could I ask for your advice?
 
 I bought a movie on iTunes store (10.1.2) this morning.
 Out of Africa - 2 GB
 
 It is still downloading!
 Basically it will take 6 hours to download.
 ... so is this a bit long or am I just impatient?
 
 My Speedtest scores over recent months are:  between 1.5 - 2.3 Mb/s
 
 
 I have tried the following:
 restart router
 restart macbook pro - 10.6.6
 turn off other macs in the house
 
 Is it time to buy a new Wireless Router? (mine is G, will N be faster?) 
 Netgear DG834G Wireless-G Router with Built-in DSL Modem
 Wireless: 802.11g access point auto rate capable up to 54 Mbps
 
 Or is my problem living in old Sorrento that I am too far from the 
 exchange or on old copper wires that wont go faster?
 
 iinet Home 4 ADSL
 30 GB Peak quota
 Currently unshaped
 
 
 many thanks
 Blitto
 
 
 
 
 
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Apple Products Guide/Apple-Downloads

2010-05-27 Thread Stuart Breden


I see that Apple no longer support the Apple product guide.

What has replaced ti?

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Re: Apple Products Guide/Apple-Downloads

2010-05-27 Thread Peter Hinchliffe


On 27/05/2010, at 9:07 PM, Stuart Breden wrote:

 
 I see that Apple no longer support the Apple product guide.
 
 What has replaced ti?
 
 

http://store.apple.com/au


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Re: Downloads

2010-04-15 Thread S Beach
Sorry Susan
Please note my statement the previous responses to your querey are
*not *isolated,
one eyed opinions...
I was assuring Alex that your opinions were NOT one eyed :-) and are in fact
representative of the broader community as attested by the results of the
survey.

No offense intended and I agree with your opinions.

Regards

Shayne Beach


2010/4/15 Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com

 Hi Shayne, saying someone is 'one eyed' in their opinion is considered
 insulting-it infers being biased, I tried to be open about using iiNet as an
 example only. On this list we speak from our knowledge and experience - I
 don't think any has offered an opinion as the 'ultimate truth' in a way that
 could be considered 'one eyed'. Just my 2c worth, again. Regards, Susan

 ---
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 Mobile: 0409688004


 On 15/04/2010, at 11:59 AM, S Beach sbscr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Alex

 The previous responses to your querey are not isolated, one eyed opinions
 as can be seen in the recently released results of The Australian Broadband
 Survey for 2009. http://whirlpool.net.au/survey/2009/
 http://whirlpool.net.au/survey/2009/
 The survay was conducted over a four week period — from 1 January to
 1 February 2010, during which the survey was successfully completed and
 verified a total of 23,683 times.

 Whirlpool is a great source of info for Internet and mobile phone plans and
 associated hardware etc including troubleshooting forums. As far as I know
 they are independant and unbiased.

 This clearly shows consumer sentiment on a range of issues relating to
 Broadband internet in Australia. Note the ISP comparison tables throughout
 the report.

 As mentioned by others Telstra - Bad, iiNet and others - Better.
 .. and yes, I use iiNet and have happily for years.

 Regards

 Shayne Beach


 On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Kevin Warner  kevy1...@me.com
 kevy1...@me.com wrote:


 Hi Alex,

 When I came to Australia, from the UK, I was amazed that you had to still
 pay a monthly subscription for dial-up - I was used to Freeserve and was
 quite put out at having to pay $15 per month on top of my call charges. This
 was in 2004 and I felt I had gone back in time to 1994! I first started to
 use broadband in around 2006, with Telstra. I was with them for a while but
 Telstra are perhaps the worst broadband provider in my opinion.

 I'm now with iinet and am very happy with them. I have 45Gb peak and 75Gb
 off peak for around $100. I do a lot of downloading but rarely reach my
 limits. Their support has been pretty good too.

 For the equivalent of £25 you will probably get a higher download cap than
 you were getting in the UK. I would very much recommend iinet.

 Hope that helps.

 Kev

 Kevin Warner
  http://www.kcwarner.comwww.kcwarner.com
 __
 Press CTRL-ALT-DEL now for an IQ test.

 Why do we want intelligent terminals when there are so many stupid users ?

 Life would be so much easier if we only had the source code.

 There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary,
 and those who don't.

 Microsoft: You've got questions. We've got dancing paperclips.

 The box said 'Required Windows XP or better'. So, I installed LINUX.

 I had a fortune cookie the other day and it said: 'Outlook not so good'. I
 said: 'Sure, but Microsoft ships it anyway'.

 Mac users swear by their Mac... PC users swear at their PC.

 On 15/04/2010, at 2:35 AM, Alexander Hartner wrote:

 
  How come the download caps are so small. I will be moving to WA in a
 months or so and was hopping to get a similar package to what I have here in
 the UK. Currently I am paying £25.00 for 25GB. Any suggestions if similar
 packages are available in WA and who would be the best provider for an SME.
 
  Thanks in advance
  Alex
 
 
  On 14 Apr 2010, at 09:41, Adrian Skehan wrote:
 
 
  Afternoon all,
 
  Can anyone give a clue to the cause of monster downloads,  On one day
 last month there was a 5Gb download and again a few days ago there was a 7Gb
 download, my normal daily download  ranges from 100 Mb to 200Mb with the
 very occasional 600Mb to 900Mb.  On the day the 7Gb occurred I was sick in
 be most of the day and as a result there was very little activity all day,
  I never watch or download movies and would balk at downloading any file
 that is anything like that size, the largest e-mail video clips don't go
 much bigger than 1.5Mb.  The only thing that has changed is the introduction
 of a new iMac in March which was set up from its predecessor via firewire.
 
  I am having a dispute with bigPond over it so would appreciate any
 suggestions as to what could cause such huge downloads.  The Modem is
 security (WPA) password protected, wireless connected Intel iMac and MacBook
 Pro, OS Snow Leopard  10.6.3.
 
 
  Regards,
 
 
  Adrian
 
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Re: Downloads

2010-04-15 Thread Martin Hill
Susan, 
Shayne was saying the responses were *not*  one eyed opinions!

He was giving you a compliment.  :-)

(yes, I had to read his sentence twice myself!)

-Mart


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On 15/04/2010, at 1:42 PM, Susan Hastings wrote:

 Hi Shayne, saying someone is 'one eyed' in their opinion is considered 
 insulting-it infers being biased, I tried to be open about using iiNet as an 
 example only. On this list we speak from our knowledge and experience - I 
 don't think any has offered an opinion as the 'ultimate truth' in a way that 
 could be considered 'one eyed'. Just my 2c worth, again. Regards, Susan
 
 ---
 Susan Hastings
 Mobile: 0409688004
 
 
 On 15/04/2010, at 11:59 AM, S Beach sbscr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alex
 
 The previous responses to your querey are not isolated, one eyed opinions as 
 can be seen in the recently released results of The Australian Broadband 
 Survey for 2009. http://whirlpool.net.au/survey/2009/
 The survay was conducted over a four week period — from 1 January to 1 
 February 2010, during which the survey was successfully completed and 
 verified a total of 23,683 times.
 
 Whirlpool is a great source of info for Internet and mobile phone plans and 
 associated hardware etc including troubleshooting forums. As far as I know 
 they are independant and unbiased.
 
 This clearly shows consumer sentiment on a range of issues relating to 
 Broadband internet in Australia. Note the ISP comparison tables throughout 
 the report.
 
 As mentioned by others Telstra - Bad, iiNet and others - Better.
 .. and yes, I use iiNet and have happily for years.
 
 Regards
 
 Shayne Beach
 
 
 On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Kevin Warner kevy1...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alex,
 
 When I came to Australia, from the UK, I was amazed that you had to still 
 pay a monthly subscription for dial-up - I was used to Freeserve and was 
 quite put out at having to pay $15 per month on top of my call charges. This 
 was in 2004 and I felt I had gone back in time to 1994! I first started to 
 use broadband in around 2006, with Telstra. I was with them for a while but 
 Telstra are perhaps the worst broadband provider in my opinion.
 
 I'm now with iinet and am very happy with them. I have 45Gb peak and 75Gb 
 off peak for around $100. I do a lot of downloading but rarely reach my 
 limits. Their support has been pretty good too.
 
 For the equivalent of £25 you will probably get a higher download cap than 
 you were getting in the UK. I would very much recommend iinet.
 
 Hope that helps.
 
 Kev
 
 Kevin Warner
 www.kcwarner.com
 __
 Press CTRL-ALT-DEL now for an IQ test.
 
 Why do we want intelligent terminals when there are so many stupid users ?
 
 Life would be so much easier if we only had the source code.
 
 There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, and 
 those who don't.
 
 Microsoft: You've got questions. We've got dancing paperclips.
 
 The box said 'Required Windows XP or better'. So, I installed LINUX.
 
 I had a fortune cookie the other day and it said: 'Outlook not so good'. I 
 said: 'Sure, but Microsoft ships it anyway'.
 
 Mac users swear by their Mac... PC users swear at their PC.
 
 On 15/04/2010, at 2:35 AM, Alexander Hartner wrote:
 
 
  How come the download caps are so small. I will be moving to WA in a 
  months or so and was hopping to get a similar package to what I have here 
  in the UK. Currently I am paying £25.00 for 25GB. Any suggestions if 
  similar packages are available in WA and who would be the best provider 
  for an SME.
 
  Thanks in advance
  Alex
 
 
  On 14 Apr 2010, at 09:41, Adrian Skehan wrote:
 
 
  Afternoon all,
 
  Can anyone give a clue to the cause of monster downloads,  On one day 
  last month there was a 5Gb download and again a few days ago there was a 
  7Gb download, my normal daily download  ranges from 100 Mb to 200Mb with 
  the very occasional 600Mb to 900Mb.  On the day the 7Gb occurred I was 
  sick in be most of the day and as a result there was very little activity 
  all day,  I never watch or download movies and would balk at downloading 
  any file that is anything like that size, the largest e-mail video clips 
  don't go much bigger than 1.5Mb.  The only thing that has changed is the 
  introduction of a new iMac in March which was set up from its predecessor 
  via firewire.
 
  I am having a dispute with bigPond over it so would appreciate any 
  suggestions as to what could cause such huge downloads.  The Modem is 
  security (WPA) password protected, wireless connected Intel iMac and 
  MacBook Pro, OS Snow Leopard  10.6.3.
 
 
  Regards,
 
 
  Adrian
 
  adrianske...@me.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Downloads

2010-04-15 Thread Susan Hastings
Hey Shayne, that sounds more like the rest of your previous message, its easy 
to forget little things as we write. cheers, Susan.
On 15/04/2010, at 2:01 PM, S Beach wrote:

 Sorry Susan
 Please note my statement the previous responses to your querey are not 
 isolated, one eyed opinions...
 I was assuring Alex that your opinions were NOT one eyed :-) and are in fact 
 representative of the broader community as attested by the results of the 
 survey.
 
 No offense intended and I agree with your opinions.
 
 Regards
 
 Shayne Beach
 
 
 2010/4/15 Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com
 Hi Shayne, saying someone is 'one eyed' in their opinion is considered 
 insulting-it infers being biased, I tried to be open about using iiNet as an 
 example only. On this list we speak from our knowledge and experience - I 
 don't think any has offered an opinion as the 'ultimate truth' in a way that 
 could be considered 'one eyed'. Just my 2c worth, again. Regards, Susan
 
 ---
 Susan Hastings
 Mobile: 0409688004
 
 
 On 15/04/2010, at 11:59 AM, S Beach sbscr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alex
 
 The previous responses to your querey are not isolated, one eyed opinions as 
 can be seen in the recently released results of The Australian Broadband 
 Survey for 2009. http://whirlpool.net.au/survey/2009/
 The survay was conducted over a four week period — from 1 January to 1 
 February 2010, during which the survey was successfully completed and 
 verified a total of 23,683 times.
 
 Whirlpool is a great source of info for Internet and mobile phone plans and 
 associated hardware etc including troubleshooting forums. As far as I know 
 they are independant and unbiased.
 
 This clearly shows consumer sentiment on a range of issues relating to 
 Broadband internet in Australia. Note the ISP comparison tables throughout 
 the report.
 
 As mentioned by others Telstra - Bad, iiNet and others - Better.
 .. and yes, I use iiNet and have happily for years.
 
 Regards
 
 Shayne Beach
 
 
 On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Kevin Warner kevy1...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alex,
 
 When I came to Australia, from the UK, I was amazed that you had to still 
 pay a monthly subscription for dial-up - I was used to Freeserve and was 
 quite put out at having to pay $15 per month on top of my call charges. This 
 was in 2004 and I felt I had gone back in time to 1994! I first started to 
 use broadband in around 2006, with Telstra. I was with them for a while but 
 Telstra are perhaps the worst broadband provider in my opinion.
 
 I'm now with iinet and am very happy with them. I have 45Gb peak and 75Gb 
 off peak for around $100. I do a lot of downloading but rarely reach my 
 limits. Their support has been pretty good too.
 
 For the equivalent of £25 you will probably get a higher download cap than 
 you were getting in the UK. I would very much recommend iinet.
 
 Hope that helps.
 
 Kev
 
 Kevin Warner
 www.kcwarner.com
 __
 Press CTRL-ALT-DEL now for an IQ test.
 
 Why do we want intelligent terminals when there are so many stupid users ?
 
 Life would be so much easier if we only had the source code.
 
 There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, and 
 those who don't.
 
 Microsoft: You've got questions. We've got dancing paperclips.
 
 The box said 'Required Windows XP or better'. So, I installed LINUX.
 
 I had a fortune cookie the other day and it said: 'Outlook not so good'. I 
 said: 'Sure, but Microsoft ships it anyway'.
 
 Mac users swear by their Mac... PC users swear at their PC.
 
 On 15/04/2010, at 2:35 AM, Alexander Hartner wrote:
 
 
  How come the download caps are so small. I will be moving to WA in a 
  months or so and was hopping to get a similar package to what I have here 
  in the UK. Currently I am paying £25.00 for 25GB. Any suggestions if 
  similar packages are available in WA and who would be the best provider 
  for an SME.
 
  Thanks in advance
  Alex
 
 
  On 14 Apr 2010, at 09:41, Adrian Skehan wrote:
 
 
  Afternoon all,
 
  Can anyone give a clue to the cause of monster downloads,  On one day 
  last month there was a 5Gb download and again a few days ago there was a 
  7Gb download, my normal daily download  ranges from 100 Mb to 200Mb with 
  the very occasional 600Mb to 900Mb.  On the day the 7Gb occurred I was 
  sick in be most of the day and as a result there was very little activity 
  all day,  I never watch or download movies and would balk at downloading 
  any file that is anything like that size, the largest e-mail video clips 
  don't go much bigger than 1.5Mb.  The only thing that has changed is the 
  introduction of a new iMac in March which was set up from its predecessor 
  via firewire.
 
  I am having a dispute with bigPond over it so would appreciate any 
  suggestions as to what could cause such huge downloads.  The Modem is 
  security (WPA) password protected, wireless connected Intel iMac and 
  MacBook Pro, OS Snow Leopard  10.6.3

Re: Downloads

2010-04-15 Thread Susan Hastings
And on my part, to misunderstand what is written!

Sent from my iPad

On 15/04/2010, at 3:48 PM, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com wrote:

 Hey Shayne, that sounds more like the rest of your previous message, its easy 
 to forget little things as we write. cheers, Susan.
 On 15/04/2010, at 2:01 PM, S Beach wrote:
 
 Sorry Susan
 Please note my statement the previous responses to your querey are not 
 isolated, one eyed  opinions...
 I was assuring Alex that your opinions were NOT one eyed :-) and are in fact 
 representative of the broader community as attested by the results of the 
 survey.
 
 No offense intended and I agree with your opinions.
 
 Regards
 
 Shayne Beach
 
 
 2010/4/15 Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com
 Hi Shayne, saying someone is 'one eyed' in their opinion is considered 
 insulting-it infers being biased, I tried to be open about using iiNet as an 
 example only. On this list we speak from our knowledge and experience - I 
 don't think any has offered an opinion as the 'ultimate truth' in a way that 
 could be considered 'one eyed'. Just my 2c worth, again. Regards, Susan
 
 ---
 Susan Hastings
 Mobile: 0409688004
 
 
 On 15/04/2010, at 11:59 AM, S Beach sbscr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alex
 
 The previous responses to your querey are not isolated, one eyed opinions 
 as can be seen in the recently released results of The Australian Broadband 
 Survey for 2009. http://whirlpool.net.au/survey/2009/
 The survay was conducted over a four week period — from 1 January to 1 
 February 2010, during which the survey was successfully completed and 
 verified a total of 23,683 times.
 
 Whirlpool is a great source of info for Internet and mobile phone plans and 
 associated hardware etc including troubleshooting forums. As far as I know 
 they are independant and unbiased.
 
 This clearly shows consumer sentiment on a range of issues relating to 
 Broadband internet in Australia. Note the ISP comparison tables throughout 
 the report.
 
 As mentioned by others Telstra - Bad, iiNet and others - Better.
 .. and yes, I use iiNet and have happily for years.
 
 Regards
 
 Shayne Beach
 
 
 On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Kevin Warner kevy1...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alex,
 
 When I came to Australia, from the UK, I was amazed that you had to still 
 pay a monthly subscription for dial-up - I was used to Freeserve and was 
 quite put out at having to pay $15 per month on top of my call charges. 
 This was in 2004 and I felt I had gone back in time to 1994! I first 
 started to use broadband in around 2006, with Telstra. I was with them for 
 a while but Telstra are perhaps the worst broadband provider in my opinion.
 
 I'm now with iinet and am very happy with them. I have 45Gb peak and 75Gb 
 off peak for around $100. I do a lot of downloading but rarely reach my 
 limits. Their support has been pretty good too.
 
 For the equivalent of £25 you will probably get a higher download cap than 
 you were getting in the UK. I would very much recommend iinet.
 
 Hope that helps.
 
 Kev
 
 Kevin Warner
 www.kcwarner.com
 __
 Press CTRL-ALT-DEL now for an IQ test.
 
 Why do we want intelligent terminals when there are so many stupid users ?
 
 Life would be so much easier if we only had the source code.
 
 There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, and 
 those who don't.
 
 Microsoft: You've got questions. We've got dancing paperclips.
 
 The box said 'Required Windows XP or better'. So, I installed LINUX.
 
 I had a fortune cookie the other day and it said: 'Outlook not so good'. I 
 said: 'Sure, but Microsoft ships it anyway'.
 
 Mac users swear by their Mac... PC users swear at their PC.
 
 On 15/04/2010, at 2:35 AM, Alexander Hartner wrote:
 
 
  How come the download caps are so small. I will be moving to WA in a 
  months or so and was hopping to get a similar package to what I have here 
  in the UK. Currently I am paying £25.00 for 25GB. Any suggestions if 
  similar packages are available in WA and who would be the best provider 
  for an SME.
 
  Thanks in advance
  Alex
 
 
  On 14 Apr 2010, at 09:41, Adrian Skehan wrote:
 
 
  Afternoon all,
 
  Can anyone give a clue to the cause of monster downloads,  On one day 
  last month there was a 5Gb download and again a few days ago there was a 
  7Gb download, my normal daily download  ranges from 100 Mb to 200Mb with 
  the very occasional 600Mb to 900Mb.  On the day the 7Gb occurred I was 
  sick in be most of the day and as a result there was very little 
  activity all day,  I never watch or download movies and would balk at 
  downloading any file that is anything like that size, the largest e-mail 
  video clips don't go much bigger than 1.5Mb.  The only thing that has 
  changed is the introduction of a new iMac in March which was set up from 
  its predecessor via firewire.
 
  I am having a dispute with bigPond over it so would appreciate any 
  suggestions as to what could cause

Re: Downloads

2010-04-15 Thread S Beach
Alex and others may also be interested in this:
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/342686/iinet_offers_first_true_iptv/


Regards

Shayne Beach


On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:59 AM, S Beach sbscr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Alex

 The previous responses to your querey are not isolated, one eyed opinions
 as can be seen in the recently released results of The Australian Broadband
 Survey for 2009. http://whirlpool.net.au/survey/2009/
 The survay was conducted over a four week period — from 1 January to
 1 February 2010, during which the survey was successfully completed and
 verified a total of 23,683 times.

 Whirlpool is a great source of info for Internet and mobile phone plans and
 associated hardware etc including troubleshooting forums. As far as I know
 they are independant and unbiased.

 This clearly shows consumer sentiment on a range of issues relating to
 Broadband internet in Australia. Note the ISP comparison tables throughout
 the report.

 As mentioned by others Telstra - Bad, iiNet and others - Better.
 .. and yes, I use iiNet and have happily for years.

 Regards

 Shayne Beach



 On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Kevin Warner kevy1...@me.com wrote:


 Hi Alex,

 When I came to Australia, from the UK, I was amazed that you had to still
 pay a monthly subscription for dial-up - I was used to Freeserve and was
 quite put out at having to pay $15 per month on top of my call charges. This
 was in 2004 and I felt I had gone back in time to 1994! I first started to
 use broadband in around 2006, with Telstra. I was with them for a while but
 Telstra are perhaps the worst broadband provider in my opinion.

 I'm now with iinet and am very happy with them. I have 45Gb peak and 75Gb
 off peak for around $100. I do a lot of downloading but rarely reach my
 limits. Their support has been pretty good too.

 For the equivalent of £25 you will probably get a higher download cap than
 you were getting in the UK. I would very much recommend iinet.

 Hope that helps.

 Kev

 Kevin Warner
 www.kcwarner.com
 __
 Press CTRL-ALT-DEL now for an IQ test.

 Why do we want intelligent terminals when there are so many stupid users ?

 Life would be so much easier if we only had the source code.

 There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary,
 and those who don't.

 Microsoft: You've got questions. We've got dancing paperclips.

 The box said 'Required Windows XP or better'. So, I installed LINUX.

 I had a fortune cookie the other day and it said: 'Outlook not so good'. I
 said: 'Sure, but Microsoft ships it anyway'.

 Mac users swear by their Mac... PC users swear at their PC.

 On 15/04/2010, at 2:35 AM, Alexander Hartner wrote:

 
  How come the download caps are so small. I will be moving to WA in a
 months or so and was hopping to get a similar package to what I have here in
 the UK. Currently I am paying £25.00 for 25GB. Any suggestions if similar
 packages are available in WA and who would be the best provider for an SME.
 
  Thanks in advance
  Alex
 
 
  On 14 Apr 2010, at 09:41, Adrian Skehan wrote:
 
 
  Afternoon all,
 
  Can anyone give a clue to the cause of monster downloads,  On one day
 last month there was a 5Gb download and again a few days ago there was a 7Gb
 download, my normal daily download  ranges from 100 Mb to 200Mb with the
 very occasional 600Mb to 900Mb.  On the day the 7Gb occurred I was sick in
 be most of the day and as a result there was very little activity all day,
  I never watch or download movies and would balk at downloading any file
 that is anything like that size, the largest e-mail video clips don't go
 much bigger than 1.5Mb.  The only thing that has changed is the introduction
 of a new iMac in March which was set up from its predecessor via firewire.
 
  I am having a dispute with bigPond over it so would appreciate any
 suggestions as to what could cause such huge downloads.  The Modem is
 security (WPA) password protected, wireless connected Intel iMac and MacBook
 Pro, OS Snow Leopard  10.6.3.
 
 
  Regards,
 
 
  Adrian
 
  adrianske...@me.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Downloads

2010-04-15 Thread Alexander Hartner
Thanks all. You have been most helpful. 

Regards
Alex
On 15 Apr 2010, at 15:47, S Beach wrote:

 Alex and others may also be interested in this:
 http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/342686/iinet_offers_first_true_iptv/
 
 
 Regards
 
 Shayne Beach
 
 
 On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:59 AM, S Beach sbscr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Alex
 
 The previous responses to your querey are not isolated, one eyed opinions as 
 can be seen in the recently released results of The Australian Broadband 
 Survey for 2009. http://whirlpool.net.au/survey/2009/
 The survay was conducted over a four week period — from 1 January to 1 
 February 2010, during which the survey was successfully completed and 
 verified a total of 23,683 times.
 
 Whirlpool is a great source of info for Internet and mobile phone plans and 
 associated hardware etc including troubleshooting forums. As far as I know 
 they are independant and unbiased.
 
 This clearly shows consumer sentiment on a range of issues relating to 
 Broadband internet in Australia. Note the ISP comparison tables throughout 
 the report.
 
 As mentioned by others Telstra - Bad, iiNet and others - Better.
 .. and yes, I use iiNet and have happily for years.
 
 Regards
 
 Shayne Beach
 
 
 
 On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Kevin Warner kevy1...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alex,
 
 When I came to Australia, from the UK, I was amazed that you had to still pay 
 a monthly subscription for dial-up - I was used to Freeserve and was quite 
 put out at having to pay $15 per month on top of my call charges. This was in 
 2004 and I felt I had gone back in time to 1994! I first started to use 
 broadband in around 2006, with Telstra. I was with them for a while but 
 Telstra are perhaps the worst broadband provider in my opinion.
 
 I'm now with iinet and am very happy with them. I have 45Gb peak and 75Gb off 
 peak for around $100. I do a lot of downloading but rarely reach my limits. 
 Their support has been pretty good too.
 
 For the equivalent of £25 you will probably get a higher download cap than 
 you were getting in the UK. I would very much recommend iinet.
 
 Hope that helps.
 
 Kev
 
 Kevin Warner
 www.kcwarner.com
 __
 Press CTRL-ALT-DEL now for an IQ test.
 
 Why do we want intelligent terminals when there are so many stupid users ?
 
 Life would be so much easier if we only had the source code.
 
 There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, and 
 those who don't.
 
 Microsoft: You've got questions. We've got dancing paperclips.
 
 The box said 'Required Windows XP or better'. So, I installed LINUX.
 
 I had a fortune cookie the other day and it said: 'Outlook not so good'. I 
 said: 'Sure, but Microsoft ships it anyway'.
 
 Mac users swear by their Mac... PC users swear at their PC.
 
 On 15/04/2010, at 2:35 AM, Alexander Hartner wrote:
 
 
  How come the download caps are so small. I will be moving to WA in a months 
  or so and was hopping to get a similar package to what I have here in the 
  UK. Currently I am paying £25.00 for 25GB. Any suggestions if similar 
  packages are available in WA and who would be the best provider for an SME.
 
  Thanks in advance
  Alex
 
 
  On 14 Apr 2010, at 09:41, Adrian Skehan wrote:
 
 
  Afternoon all,
 
  Can anyone give a clue to the cause of monster downloads,  On one day last 
  month there was a 5Gb download and again a few days ago there was a 7Gb 
  download, my normal daily download  ranges from 100 Mb to 200Mb with the 
  very occasional 600Mb to 900Mb.  On the day the 7Gb occurred I was sick in 
  be most of the day and as a result there was very little activity all day, 
   I never watch or download movies and would balk at downloading any file 
  that is anything like that size, the largest e-mail video clips don't go 
  much bigger than 1.5Mb.  The only thing that has changed is the 
  introduction of a new iMac in March which was set up from its predecessor 
  via firewire.
 
  I am having a dispute with bigPond over it so would appreciate any 
  suggestions as to what could cause such huge downloads.  The Modem is 
  security (WPA) password protected, wireless connected Intel iMac and 
  MacBook Pro, OS Snow Leopard  10.6.3.
 
 
  Regards,
 
 
  Adrian
 
  adrianske...@me.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Downloads

2010-04-14 Thread Adrian Skehan

Afternoon all,

Can anyone give a clue to the cause of monster downloads,  On one day last 
month there was a 5Gb download and again a few days ago there was a 7Gb 
download, my normal daily download  ranges from 100 Mb to 200Mb with the very 
occasional 600Mb to 900Mb.  On the day the 7Gb occurred I was sick in be most 
of the day and as a result there was very little activity all day,  I never 
watch or download movies and would balk at downloading any file that is 
anything like that size, the largest e-mail video clips don't go much bigger 
than 1.5Mb.  The only thing that has changed is the introduction of a new iMac 
in March which was set up from its predecessor via firewire.

I am having a dispute with bigPond over it so would appreciate any suggestions 
as to what could cause such huge downloads.  The Modem is security (WPA) 
password protected, wireless connected Intel iMac and MacBook Pro, OS Snow 
Leopard  10.6.3.


Regards,


Adrian

adrianske...@me.com






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Re: Downloads

2010-04-14 Thread Joe Mastrella
Greetings! Who in your family or friends has the password. With the password
some one could use there computer out side your home. If I were you I would
change the password ASAP and monitor everyone who has the password or access
to it.

Cheers, Joe

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com wrote:


 Afternoon all,

 Can anyone give a clue to the cause of monster downloads,  On one day last
 month there was a 5Gb download and again a few days ago there was a 7Gb
 download, my normal daily download  ranges from 100 Mb to 200Mb with the
 very occasional 600Mb to 900Mb.  On the day the 7Gb occurred I was sick in
 be most of the day and as a result there was very little activity all day,
  I never watch or download movies and would balk at downloading any file
 that is anything like that size, the largest e-mail video clips don't go
 much bigger than 1.5Mb.  The only thing that has changed is the introduction
 of a new iMac in March which was set up from its predecessor via firewire.

 I am having a dispute with bigPond over it so would appreciate any
 suggestions as to what could cause such huge downloads.  The Modem is
 security (WPA) password protected, wireless connected Intel iMac and MacBook
 Pro, OS Snow Leopard  10.6.3.


 Regards,


 Adrian

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Re: Downloads

2010-04-14 Thread Malcolm McCallum

My sympathies and I wish you luck. Bigpond must be the most incompetent 
Provider in OZ if not the world. I foolishly signed up for a new deal which was 
going to give me unbelievable speeds for a relatively modest outlay. I noted 
that I could back out of the deal  within  7 days and did so. To welcome me to 
Bigpond they credited me with a welcome credit which months later I am still 
being credited with despite on 3 or 4 occasions telling them I am not with 
them, I feel like spending it now:-)
On 14/04/2010, at 4:41 PM, Adrian Skehan wrote:



Mac
 
 Afternoon all,
 
 Can anyone give a clue to the cause of monster downloads,  On one day last 
 month there was a 5Gb download and again a few days ago there was a 7Gb 
 download, my normal daily download  ranges from 100 Mb to 200Mb with the very 
 occasional 600Mb to 900Mb.  On the day the 7Gb occurred I was sick in be most 
 of the day and as a result there was very little activity all day,  I never 
 watch or download movies and would balk at downloading any file that is 
 anything like that size, the largest e-mail video clips don't go much bigger 
 than 1.5Mb.  The only thing that has changed is the introduction of a new 
 iMac in March which was set up from its predecessor via firewire.
 
 I am having a dispute with bigPond over it so would appreciate any 
 suggestions as to what could cause such huge downloads.  The Modem is 
 security (WPA) password protected, wireless connected Intel iMac and MacBook 
 Pro, OS Snow Leopard  10.6.3.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Adrian
 
 adrianske...@me.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Downloads

2010-04-14 Thread Adrian Skehan
No one else has the password and the only people in the house are myself, wife 
and 45 year old daughter who is temporarily with us, no one here would have any 
interest in something that big.  I presume that 5 or 7Gb would take some time 
to download and would be unlikely to go unnoticed.  I have ClamXav installed as 
a precaution against viruses.

The only other thing is Synchronising computers (Calendar, Contacts Keychain 
and Mail) with MobileMe and iDisk Sync (I am not using iPhoto on the new iMac 
and there is nothing in my Gallery that is synced with it either), can either 
of these be responsible for such downloads?


Regards,


Adrian

adrianske...@me.com




On 14/04/2010, at 4:59 PM, Joe Mastrella wrote:

 Greetings! Who in your family or friends has the password. With the password 
 some one could use there computer out side your home. If I were you I would 
 change the password ASAP and monitor everyone who has the password or access 
 to it.
 
 Cheers, Joe
 
 On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com wrote:
 
 Afternoon all,
 
 Can anyone give a clue to the cause of monster downloads,  On one day last 
 month there was a 5Gb download and again a few days ago there was a 7Gb 
 download, my normal daily download  ranges from 100 Mb to 200Mb with the very 
 occasional 600Mb to 900Mb.  On the day the 7Gb occurred I was sick in be most 
 of the day and as a result there was very little activity all day,  I never 
 watch or download movies and would balk at downloading any file that is 
 anything like that size, the largest e-mail video clips don't go much bigger 
 than 1.5Mb.  The only thing that has changed is the introduction of a new 
 iMac in March which was set up from its predecessor via firewire.
 
 I am having a dispute with bigPond over it so would appreciate any 
 suggestions as to what could cause such huge downloads.  The Modem is 
 security (WPA) password protected, wireless connected Intel iMac and MacBook 
 Pro, OS Snow Leopard  10.6.3.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Adrian
 
 adrianske...@me.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Downloads

2010-04-14 Thread Adrian Skehan

Believe it or not I have been with them for 12 months now and apart from an 
issue with drop-outs when they upgraded me to ASDL 2 for no charge a few months 
ago and now this, which is yet to be proven that they are at fault, the service 
has lived up to all expectations.  I still cant understand why they gave me the 
deal I am on as it looked to good to be and it was with great trepidation that 
I took it up, I guess that I am one of the lucky ones at this stage.


Regards,


Adrian

adrianske...@me.com




On 14/04/2010, at 5:39 PM, Malcolm McCallum wrote:

 
 My sympathies and I wish you luck. Bigpond must be the most incompetent 
 Provider in OZ if not the world. I foolishly signed up for a new deal which 
 was going to give me unbelievable speeds for a relatively modest outlay. I 
 noted that I could back out of the deal  within  7 days and did so. To 
 welcome me to Bigpond they credited me with a welcome credit which months 
 later I am still being credited with despite on 3 or 4 occasions telling them 
 I am not with them, I feel like spending it now:-)
 On 14/04/2010, at 4:41 PM, Adrian Skehan wrote:
 
 
 
 Mac
 
 Afternoon all,
 
 Can anyone give a clue to the cause of monster downloads,  On one day last 
 month there was a 5Gb download and again a few days ago there was a 7Gb 
 download, my normal daily download  ranges from 100 Mb to 200Mb with the 
 very occasional 600Mb to 900Mb.  On the day the 7Gb occurred I was sick in 
 be most of the day and as a result there was very little activity all day,  
 I never watch or download movies and would balk at downloading any file that 
 is anything like that size, the largest e-mail video clips don't go much 
 bigger than 1.5Mb.  The only thing that has changed is the introduction of a 
 new iMac in March which was set up from its predecessor via firewire.
 
 I am having a dispute with bigPond over it so would appreciate any 
 suggestions as to what could cause such huge downloads.  The Modem is 
 security (WPA) password protected, wireless connected Intel iMac and MacBook 
 Pro, OS Snow Leopard  10.6.3.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Adrian
 
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Re: Downloads

2010-04-14 Thread rkor...@iinet.net.au

Can you login to your router and see who is connected? also is there any 
logging turned on?

It will depend what router you have and what has been set up as to what 
information you can get.

Roger


On Wed Apr 14 18:02 , Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com sent:


Believe it or not I have been with them for 12 months now and apart from an 
issue with drop-outs when they upgraded me 
to ASDL 2 for no charge a few months ago and now this, which is yet to be 
proven that they are at fault, the service has lived 
up to all expectations.  I still cant understand why they gave me the deal I am 
on as it looked to good to be and it was with 
great trepidation that I took it up, I guess that I am one of the lucky ones at 
this stage.


Regards,


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On 14/04/2010, at 5:39 PM, Malcolm McCallum wrote:

 
 My sympathies and I wish you luck. Bigpond must be the most incompetent 
 Provider in OZ if not the world. I foolishly 
signed up for a new deal which was going to give me unbelievable speeds for a 
relatively modest outlay. I noted that I could 
back out of the deal  within  7 days and did so. To welcome me to Bigpond they 
credited me with a welcome credit which 
months later I am still being credited with despite on 3 or 4 occasions telling 
them I am not with them, I feel like spending it 
now:-)
 On 14/04/2010, at 4:41 PM, Adrian Skehan wrote:
 
 
 
 Mac
 
 Afternoon all,
 
 Can anyone give a clue to the cause of monster downloads,  On one day last 
 month there was a 5Gb download and 
again a few days ago there was a 7Gb download, my normal daily download  ranges 
from 100 Mb to 200Mb with the very 
occasional 600Mb to 900Mb.  On the day the 7Gb occurred I was sick in be most 
of the day and as a result there was very 
little activity all day,  I never watch or download movies and would balk at 
downloading any file that is anything like that size, 
the largest e-mail video clips don't go much bigger than 1.5Mb.  The only thing 
that has changed is the introduction of a 
new iMac in March which was set up from its predecessor via firewire.
 
 I am having a dispute with bigPond over it so would appreciate any 
 suggestions as to what could cause such huge 
downloads.  The Modem is security (WPA) password protected, wireless connected 
Intel iMac and MacBook Pro, OS Snow 
Leopard  10.6.3.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Adrian
 
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Re: Downloads

2010-04-14 Thread Susan Hastings
Hi Adrian, syncing with the iDisk could be the problem. I had to stop doing 
that myself as it was using massive amounts of my quota with uploads and 
downloads syncing. I use the rest of MobileMe, but not that feature. Susan

Sent from my iPad

On 14/04/2010, at 5:52 PM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com wrote:

 No one else has the password and the only people in the house are myself, 
 wife and 45 year old daughter who is temporarily with us, no one here would 
 have any interest in something that big.  I presume that 5 or 7Gb would take 
 some time to download and would be unlikely to go unnoticed.  I have ClamXav 
 installed as a precaution against viruses.
 
 The only other thing is Synchronising computers (Calendar, Contacts Keychain 
 and Mail) with MobileMe and iDisk Sync (I am not using iPhoto on the new iMac 
 and there is nothing in my Gallery that is synced with it either), can either 
 of these be responsible for such downloads?
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Adrian
 
 adrianske...@me.com
 
 
 
 
 On 14/04/2010, at 4:59 PM, Joe Mastrella wrote:
 
 Greetings! Who in your family or friends has the password. With the password 
 some one could use there computer out side your home. If I were you I would 
 change the password ASAP and monitor everyone who has the password or access 
 to it.
 
 Cheers, Joe
 
 On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com wrote:
 
 Afternoon all,
 
 Can anyone give a clue to the cause of monster downloads,  On one day last 
 month there was a 5Gb download and again a few days ago there was a 7Gb 
 download, my normal daily download  ranges from 100 Mb to 200Mb with the 
 very occasional 600Mb to 900Mb.  On the day the 7Gb occurred I was sick in 
 be most of the day and as a result there was very little activity all day,  
 I never watch or download movies and would balk at downloading any file that 
 is anything like that size, the largest e-mail video clips don't go much 
 bigger than 1.5Mb.  The only thing that has changed is the introduction of a 
 new iMac in March which was set up from its predecessor via firewire.
 
 I am having a dispute with bigPond over it so would appreciate any 
 suggestions as to what could cause such huge downloads.  The Modem is 
 security (WPA) password protected, wireless connected Intel iMac and MacBook 
 Pro, OS Snow Leopard  10.6.3.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Adrian
 
 adrianske...@me.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Downloads

2010-04-14 Thread Vladimir James
I can appreciate concern over monster downloads as I blundered into a download 
fiasco just last week. 

Without thinking of my circumstances I purchased a game (Dragon Age: Deluxe). 
When I started downloading it I was shocked to see it was about 9.6 GB. My 
shock hadn't worn off when I realised that I had already used more than half of 
my monthly 6 GB allowance before starting the download. Well, it wasn't long 
before I reached my allowance limits and downloading slowed to a painful crawl, 
mostly around 10 kbps. It took about three days, around-the-clock, to complete 
the download, and when completed I had almost completely gone through my next 
month's allowance.

When I originally signed up for 6 GB monthly allowance I though that should 
pretty well handle my needs. Hah!

Vlad James
wireless
24 iMac 2.4 GHz Intel
2GB / 667MHz / 320GB
OS X 10.6.3

On 14/04/2010, at 4:41 PM, Adrian Skehan wrote:

 
 Afternoon all,
 
 Can anyone give a clue to the cause of monster downloads,  On one day last 
 month there was a 5Gb download and again a few days ago there was a 7Gb 
 download, my normal daily download  ranges from 100 Mb to 200Mb with the very 
 occasional 600Mb to 900Mb.  On the day the 7Gb occurred I was sick in be most 
 of the day and as a result there was very little activity all day,  I never 
 watch or download movies and would balk at downloading any file that is 
 anything like that size, the largest e-mail video clips don't go much bigger 
 than 1.5Mb.  The only thing that has changed is the introduction of a new 
 iMac in March which was set up from its predecessor via firewire.
 
 I am having a dispute with bigPond over it so would appreciate any 
 suggestions as to what could cause such huge downloads.  The Modem is 
 security (WPA) password protected, wireless connected Intel iMac and MacBook 
 Pro, OS Snow Leopard  10.6.3.
 



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Re: Downloads

2010-04-14 Thread Alexander Hartner

How come the download caps are so small. I will be moving to WA in a months or 
so and was hopping to get a similar package to what I have here in the UK. 
Currently I am paying £25.00 for 25GB. Any suggestions if similar packages are 
available in WA and who would be the best provider for an SME.

Thanks in advance
Alex


On 14 Apr 2010, at 09:41, Adrian Skehan wrote:

 
 Afternoon all,
 
 Can anyone give a clue to the cause of monster downloads,  On one day last 
 month there was a 5Gb download and again a few days ago there was a 7Gb 
 download, my normal daily download  ranges from 100 Mb to 200Mb with the very 
 occasional 600Mb to 900Mb.  On the day the 7Gb occurred I was sick in be most 
 of the day and as a result there was very little activity all day,  I never 
 watch or download movies and would balk at downloading any file that is 
 anything like that size, the largest e-mail video clips don't go much bigger 
 than 1.5Mb.  The only thing that has changed is the introduction of a new 
 iMac in March which was set up from its predecessor via firewire.
 
 I am having a dispute with bigPond over it so would appreciate any 
 suggestions as to what could cause such huge downloads.  The Modem is 
 security (WPA) password protected, wireless connected Intel iMac and MacBook 
 Pro, OS Snow Leopard  10.6.3.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Adrian
 
 adrianske...@me.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Downloads

2010-04-14 Thread Susan Hastings

Hi Alex, check the iiNet.net.au site for broadband plans. They are pretty 
representative of the better options that are available from the better 
providers.  Even if you have a 40gig limit (40 peak and 40 off peak) syncing 
the iDisk (which in my case was 20gig) can chew through the quota.

We don't use very much now as iTunes and our favorite tv shows are in iinet's 
Freezone. A 25gig plan would probably be ample.

Susan

Sent from my iPad

On 15/04/2010, at 2:35 AM, Alexander Hartner a...@j2anywhere.com wrote:

 
 How come the download caps are so small. I will be moving to WA in a months 
 or so and was hopping to get a similar package to what I have here in the UK. 
 Currently I am paying £25.00 for 25GB. Any suggestions if similar packages 
 are available in WA and who would be the best provider for an SME.
 
 Thanks in advance
 Alex
 
 
 On 14 Apr 2010, at 09:41, Adrian Skehan wrote:
 
 
 Afternoon all,
 
 Can anyone give a clue to the cause of monster downloads,  On one day last 
 month there was a 5Gb download and again a few days ago there was a 7Gb 
 download, my normal daily download  ranges from 100 Mb to 200Mb with the 
 very occasional 600Mb to 900Mb.  On the day the 7Gb occurred I was sick in 
 be most of the day and as a result there was very little activity all day,  
 I never watch or download movies and would balk at downloading any file that 
 is anything like that size, the largest e-mail video clips don't go much 
 bigger than 1.5Mb.  The only thing that has changed is the introduction of a 
 new iMac in March which was set up from its predecessor via firewire.
 
 I am having a dispute with bigPond over it so would appreciate any 
 suggestions as to what could cause such huge downloads.  The Modem is 
 security (WPA) password protected, wireless connected Intel iMac and MacBook 
 Pro, OS Snow Leopard  10.6.3.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Adrian
 
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Re: Downloads

2010-04-14 Thread Eugene
Hi Alex,

in my opinion we do get ripped off here in Oz however compared to what you are 
paying apparently not as bad as I thought. £25 is about $Au41. For $Au49 you 
can get 30Gb + 30Gb from iiNet. I'm sure that there are better rates around.

 Regards,
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On 15/04/2010, at 2:35 AM, Alexander Hartner wrote:

 
 How come the download caps are so small. I will be moving to WA in a months 
 or so and was hopping to get a similar package to what I have here in the UK. 
 Currently I am paying £25.00 for 25GB. Any suggestions if similar packages 
 are available in WA and who would be the best provider for an SME.
 
 Thanks in advance
 Alex
 
 
 On 14 Apr 2010, at 09:41, Adrian Skehan wrote:
 
 
 Afternoon all,
 
 Can anyone give a clue to the cause of monster downloads,  On one day last 
 month there was a 5Gb download and again a few days ago there was a 7Gb 
 download, my normal daily download  ranges from 100 Mb to 200Mb with the 
 very occasional 600Mb to 900Mb.  On the day the 7Gb occurred I was sick in 
 be most of the day and as a result there was very little activity all day,  
 I never watch or download movies and would balk at downloading any file that 
 is anything like that size, the largest e-mail video clips don't go much 
 bigger than 1.5Mb.  The only thing that has changed is the introduction of a 
 new iMac in March which was set up from its predecessor via firewire.
 
 I am having a dispute with bigPond over it so would appreciate any 
 suggestions as to what could cause such huge downloads.  The Modem is 
 security (WPA) password protected, wireless connected Intel iMac and MacBook 
 Pro, OS Snow Leopard  10.6.3.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Adrian
 
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Re: Downloads

2010-04-14 Thread Reg Whitely


Have a look at internode. They've got great plans and are great people  
with great Mac service: http://www.internode.on.net

Reg

On 15/04/2010, at 7:50 AM, Eugene wrote:


Hi Alex,

in my opinion we do get ripped off here in Oz however compared to  
what you are paying apparently not as bad as I thought. £25 is about  
$Au41. For $Au49 you can get 30Gb + 30Gb from iiNet. I'm sure that  
there are better rates around.


Regards,
Eugene


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On 15/04/2010, at 2:35 AM, Alexander Hartner wrote:



How come the download caps are so small. I will be moving to WA in  
a months or so and was hopping to get a similar package to what I  
have here in the UK. Currently I am paying £25.00 for 25GB. Any  
suggestions if similar packages are available in WA and who would  
be the best provider for an SME.


Thanks in advance
Alex


On 14 Apr 2010, at 09:41, Adrian Skehan wrote:



Afternoon all,

Can anyone give a clue to the cause of monster downloads,  On one  
day last month there was a 5Gb download and again a few days ago  
there was a 7Gb download, my normal daily download  ranges from  
100 Mb to 200Mb with the very occasional 600Mb to 900Mb.  On the  
day the 7Gb occurred I was sick in be most of the day and as a  
result there was very little activity all day,  I never watch or  
download movies and would balk at downloading any file that is  
anything like that size, the largest e-mail video clips don't go  
much bigger than 1.5Mb.  The only thing that has changed is the  
introduction of a new iMac in March which was set up from its  
predecessor via firewire.


I am having a dispute with bigPond over it so would appreciate any  
suggestions as to what could cause such huge downloads.  The Modem  
is security (WPA) password protected, wireless connected Intel  
iMac and MacBook Pro, OS Snow Leopard  10.6.3.



Regards,


Adrian

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Re: Downloads

2010-04-14 Thread Kevin Warner

Hi Alex,

When I came to Australia, from the UK, I was amazed that you had to still pay a 
monthly subscription for dial-up - I was used to Freeserve and was quite put 
out at having to pay $15 per month on top of my call charges. This was in 2004 
and I felt I had gone back in time to 1994! I first started to use broadband in 
around 2006, with Telstra. I was with them for a while but Telstra are perhaps 
the worst broadband provider in my opinion.

I'm now with iinet and am very happy with them. I have 45Gb peak and 75Gb off 
peak for around $100. I do a lot of downloading but rarely reach my limits. 
Their support has been pretty good too.

For the equivalent of £25 you will probably get a higher download cap than you 
were getting in the UK. I would very much recommend iinet.

Hope that helps.

Kev

Kevin Warner
www.kcwarner.com
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Press CTRL-ALT-DEL now for an IQ test.

Why do we want intelligent terminals when there are so many stupid users ?

Life would be so much easier if we only had the source code.

There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, and 
those who don't.

Microsoft: You've got questions. We've got dancing paperclips. 

The box said 'Required Windows XP or better'. So, I installed LINUX.

I had a fortune cookie the other day and it said: 'Outlook not so good'. I 
said: 'Sure, but Microsoft ships it anyway'.

Mac users swear by their Mac... PC users swear at their PC.

On 15/04/2010, at 2:35 AM, Alexander Hartner wrote:

 
 How come the download caps are so small. I will be moving to WA in a months 
 or so and was hopping to get a similar package to what I have here in the UK. 
 Currently I am paying £25.00 for 25GB. Any suggestions if similar packages 
 are available in WA and who would be the best provider for an SME.
 
 Thanks in advance
 Alex
 
 
 On 14 Apr 2010, at 09:41, Adrian Skehan wrote:
 
 
 Afternoon all,
 
 Can anyone give a clue to the cause of monster downloads,  On one day last 
 month there was a 5Gb download and again a few days ago there was a 7Gb 
 download, my normal daily download  ranges from 100 Mb to 200Mb with the 
 very occasional 600Mb to 900Mb.  On the day the 7Gb occurred I was sick in 
 be most of the day and as a result there was very little activity all day,  
 I never watch or download movies and would balk at downloading any file that 
 is anything like that size, the largest e-mail video clips don't go much 
 bigger than 1.5Mb.  The only thing that has changed is the introduction of a 
 new iMac in March which was set up from its predecessor via firewire.
 
 I am having a dispute with bigPond over it so would appreciate any 
 suggestions as to what could cause such huge downloads.  The Modem is 
 security (WPA) password protected, wireless connected Intel iMac and MacBook 
 Pro, OS Snow Leopard  10.6.3.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Adrian
 
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Re: Downloads

2010-04-14 Thread S Beach
Hi Alex

The previous responses to your querey are not isolated, one eyed opinions as
can be seen in the recently released results of The Australian Broadband
Survey for 2009. http://whirlpool.net.au/survey/2009/
The survay was conducted over a four week period — from 1 January to
1 February 2010, during which the survey was successfully completed and
verified a total of 23,683 times.

Whirlpool is a great source of info for Internet and mobile phone plans and
associated hardware etc including troubleshooting forums. As far as I know
they are independant and unbiased.

This clearly shows consumer sentiment on a range of issues relating to
Broadband internet in Australia. Note the ISP comparison tables throughout
the report.

As mentioned by others Telstra - Bad, iiNet and others - Better.
.. and yes, I use iiNet and have happily for years.

Regards

Shayne Beach


On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Kevin Warner kevy1...@me.com wrote:


 Hi Alex,

 When I came to Australia, from the UK, I was amazed that you had to still
 pay a monthly subscription for dial-up - I was used to Freeserve and was
 quite put out at having to pay $15 per month on top of my call charges. This
 was in 2004 and I felt I had gone back in time to 1994! I first started to
 use broadband in around 2006, with Telstra. I was with them for a while but
 Telstra are perhaps the worst broadband provider in my opinion.

 I'm now with iinet and am very happy with them. I have 45Gb peak and 75Gb
 off peak for around $100. I do a lot of downloading but rarely reach my
 limits. Their support has been pretty good too.

 For the equivalent of £25 you will probably get a higher download cap than
 you were getting in the UK. I would very much recommend iinet.

 Hope that helps.

 Kev

 Kevin Warner
 www.kcwarner.com
 __
 Press CTRL-ALT-DEL now for an IQ test.

 Why do we want intelligent terminals when there are so many stupid users ?

 Life would be so much easier if we only had the source code.

 There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, and
 those who don't.

 Microsoft: You've got questions. We've got dancing paperclips.

 The box said 'Required Windows XP or better'. So, I installed LINUX.

 I had a fortune cookie the other day and it said: 'Outlook not so good'. I
 said: 'Sure, but Microsoft ships it anyway'.

 Mac users swear by their Mac... PC users swear at their PC.

 On 15/04/2010, at 2:35 AM, Alexander Hartner wrote:

 
  How come the download caps are so small. I will be moving to WA in a
 months or so and was hopping to get a similar package to what I have here in
 the UK. Currently I am paying £25.00 for 25GB. Any suggestions if similar
 packages are available in WA and who would be the best provider for an SME.
 
  Thanks in advance
  Alex
 
 
  On 14 Apr 2010, at 09:41, Adrian Skehan wrote:
 
 
  Afternoon all,
 
  Can anyone give a clue to the cause of monster downloads,  On one day
 last month there was a 5Gb download and again a few days ago there was a 7Gb
 download, my normal daily download  ranges from 100 Mb to 200Mb with the
 very occasional 600Mb to 900Mb.  On the day the 7Gb occurred I was sick in
 be most of the day and as a result there was very little activity all day,
  I never watch or download movies and would balk at downloading any file
 that is anything like that size, the largest e-mail video clips don't go
 much bigger than 1.5Mb.  The only thing that has changed is the introduction
 of a new iMac in March which was set up from its predecessor via firewire.
 
  I am having a dispute with bigPond over it so would appreciate any
 suggestions as to what could cause such huge downloads.  The Modem is
 security (WPA) password protected, wireless connected Intel iMac and MacBook
 Pro, OS Snow Leopard  10.6.3.
 
 
  Regards,
 
 
  Adrian
 
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Re: Downloads

2010-04-14 Thread Susan Hastings
Hi Shayne, saying someone is 'one eyed' in their opinion is considered  
insulting-it infers being biased, I tried to be open about using iiNet  
as an example only. On this list we speak from our knowledge and  
experience - I don't think any has offered an opinion as the 'ultimate  
truth' in a way that could be considered 'one eyed'. Just my 2c worth,  
again. Regards, Susan


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On 15/04/2010, at 11:59 AM, S Beach sbscr...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Alex

The previous responses to your querey are not isolated, one eyed  
opinions as can be seen in the recently released results of The  
Australian Broadband Survey for 2009. http://whirlpool.net.au/survey/2009/
The survay was conducted over a four week period ― from 1 January t 
o 1 February 2010, during which the survey was successfully complete 
d and verified a total of 23,683 times.


Whirlpool is a great source of info for Internet and mobile phone  
plans and associated hardware etc including troubleshooting forums.  
As far as I know they are independant and unbiased.


This clearly shows consumer sentiment on a range of issues relating  
to Broadband internet in Australia. Note the ISP comparison tables  
throughout the report.


As mentioned by others Telstra - Bad, iiNet and others - Better.
.. and yes, I use iiNet and have happily for years.

Regards

Shayne Beach


On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Kevin Warner kevy1...@me.com  
wrote:


Hi Alex,

When I came to Australia, from the UK, I was amazed that you had to  
still pay a monthly subscription for dial-up - I was used to  
Freeserve and was quite put out at having to pay $15 per month on  
top of my call charges. This was in 2004 and I felt I had gone back  
in time to 1994! I first started to use broadband in around 2006,  
with Telstra. I was with them for a while but Telstra are perhaps  
the worst broadband provider in my opinion.


I'm now with iinet and am very happy with them. I have 45Gb peak and  
75Gb off peak for around $100. I do a lot of downloading but rarely  
reach my limits. Their support has been pretty good too.


For the equivalent of £25 you will probably get a higher download ca 
p than you were getting in the UK. I would very much recommend iinet.


Hope that helps.

Kev

Kevin Warner
www.kcwarner.com
__
Press CTRL-ALT-DEL now for an IQ test.

Why do we want intelligent terminals when there are so many stupid  
users ?


Life would be so much easier if we only had the source code.

There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand  
binary, and those who don't.


Microsoft: You've got questions. We've got dancing paperclips.

The box said 'Required Windows XP or better'. So, I installed LINUX.

I had a fortune cookie the other day and it said: 'Outlook not so  
good'. I said: 'Sure, but Microsoft ships it anyway'.


Mac users swear by their Mac... PC users swear at their PC.

On 15/04/2010, at 2:35 AM, Alexander Hartner wrote:


 How come the download caps are so small. I will be moving to WA in  
a months or so and was hopping to get a similar package to what I  
have here in the UK. Currently I am paying £25.00 for 25GB. Any sugg 
estions if similar packages are available in WA and who would be the 
 best provider for an SME.


 Thanks in advance
 Alex


 On 14 Apr 2010, at 09:41, Adrian Skehan wrote:


 Afternoon all,

 Can anyone give a clue to the cause of monster downloads,  On one  
day last month there was a 5Gb download and again a few days ago  
there was a 7Gb download, my normal daily download  ranges from 100  
Mb to 200Mb with the very occasional 600Mb to 900Mb.  On the day the  
7Gb occurred I was sick in be most of the day and as a result there  
was very little activity all day,  I never watch or download movies  
and would balk at downloading any file that is anything like that  
size, the largest e-mail video clips don't go much bigger than  
1.5Mb.  The only thing that has changed is the introduction of a new  
iMac in March which was set up from its predecessor via firewire.


 I am having a dispute with bigPond over it so would appreciate  
any suggestions as to what could cause such huge downloads.  The  
Modem is security (WPA) password protected, wireless connected Intel  
iMac and MacBook Pro, OS Snow Leopard  10.6.3.



 Regards,


 Adrian

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Re: Exceeding downloads

2009-10-12 Thread Jon Davison


Thanks ever so much for everyone's (Glenn, Ronnie, Philippe, Rob,  
Stephen  Robin) help here regarding our AAPT problem. It really is  
great to know that you can depend on this unique resource.


Thanks again
Jon


On 10/10/2009, at 9:01 AM, Rob Findlay wrote:



restricting access based on ethernet ID of individual machines once  
you've changed all the passwords is pretty effective.
Don't forget that many programs and your OS download updates  
automatically these days. Not saying it's the case here but it's  
something to consider when you are working out where all the  
downloads came from.


On 10/10/2009, at 7:34 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Jon,

I would say someone has cracked your password (or seen you type  
it). I would suggest a few things you can do to 'try' to protect  
your Network.
Of course, turning it OFF when you are not going to be using it is  
good advice.


1. Change your Password on your ADSL Modem from the default login.
2. Change the Password on your Wireless Network to something more  
difficult, mix numbers, letters, and punctuation of at least 20  
characters.

3. Use WPA2 Wi-Fi Protection
4. Don't broadcast your SSID (Network Name) Have a Closed  
Network. But with some effort a snooper can learn the name.
A closed Network offers protection from the casual observer, many  
sniffer programs that monitor wireless networks—from commercial down
to open-source freeware—can easily see the name of a closed network  
whenever a legitimate user connects to it.

If no one ever connects, it remains hidden, but that’s hardly useful.

I would suggest you get this Network protected ASAP ... or   
Turn it OFF!


Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.1 Snow Leopard


On 09/10/2009, at 9:24 PM, Jon Davison wrote:




Hi everyone. We have a problem with our AAPT setup and wondering  
if anyone has experience with this?


We keep getting messages from AAPT that we are about to, then  
exceed our download limit and our account will be 'throttled'.
We have checked our usage and found that our account is using  
750Mb, 450Mb etc when we are asleep! even as we are watching
we see that it is being used. It is password protected and are  
using Airport Extreme.


This morning at 1, 2, 3, 4am etc when we are in the land of nod,  
we are using 1Gb? For instance we were 'unthrottled' on the 7th,
but today we are 'throttled' again as we have exceeded our monthly  
etc...


My question firstly is, how do we change the Wireless password,  
two, how is it possible that our password could have been 'hacked'?


We have called AAPT but they insist that of course we are  
downloading stuff, and no joy there.


Should we change the password every week, month?

Any help would be much appreciated.

KInd regards
Jon


'R' Celebrating the Robinson Helicopter
A new coffee-table book from Eye in the Sky Productions.
Photographed by leading aviation photographer Jon Davison.
Due for release late 2008
Based in Western Australia
M: 0403 235938
E: j...@eyeinthesky.com.au
W: http://www.eyeinthesky.com.au/robinson.html



Cheers,
Ronni

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Re: Exceeding downloads

2009-10-10 Thread Stephen Chape


My suggestion is DO NOT USE A WIRELESS ROUTER UNLESS YOU HAVE NO  
CHOICE !!



On 09/10/2009, at 11:50 PM, Philippe Chaperon wrote:


Hi Jon,

For what its worth, is it practical for you to turn off your  
wireless network when not using the internet? That's what I have  
been doing ever since I noticed that some one was trying to access  
my wireless modem. I also changed my password having a combination  
of letters, some capitalized, and numerals. Not sure how efficient  
this is against a hard core hacker, but ever since then my downloads  
have been well within my limits.


One of the more experienced listers may come up with a better  
solution though.


Good luck  good night,

Philippe C

2009/10/9 Jon Davison photo...@iinet.net.au


Hi everyone. We have a problem with our AAPT setup and wondering if  
anyone has experience with this?


We keep getting messages from AAPT that we are about to, then exceed  
our download limit and our account will be 'throttled'.
We have checked our usage and found that our account is using 750Mb,  
450Mb etc when we are asleep! even as we are watching
we see that it is being used. It is password protected and are using  
Airport Extreme.


This morning at 1, 2, 3, 4am etc when we are in the land of nod, we  
are using 1Gb? For instance we were 'unthrottled' on the 7th,
but today we are 'throttled' again as we have exceeded our monthly  
etc...


My question firstly is, how do we change the Wireless password, two,  
how is it possible that our password could have been 'hacked'?


We have called AAPT but they insist that of course we are  
downloading stuff, and no joy there.


Should we change the password every week, month?

Any help would be much appreciated.

KInd regards
Jon


'R' Celebrating the Robinson Helicopter
A new coffee-table book from Eye in the Sky Productions.
Photographed by leading aviation photographer Jon Davison.
Due for release late 2008
Based in Western Australia
M: 0403 235938
E: j...@eyeinthesky.com.au
W: http://www.eyeinthesky.com.au/robinson.html




Regards,
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Re: Exceeding downloads

2009-10-10 Thread Glenn Nicholas

Jon, use WPA2 security settings on your Airport Extreme. Use a strong
password (8 characters or more, no dictionary words and use
numbers/punctuation). You'll be fine then.

WEP security has known vulnerabilities, so if you happen to be using
it and someone wants to put the time in to downloading the tools, they
can crack it.

More details here: http://world.std.com/~reinhold/airport.html

Glenn Nicholas
OM4 ::


2009/10/10 Stephen Chape ch...@westnet.com.au:

 My suggestion is DO NOT USE A WIRELESS ROUTER UNLESS YOU HAVE NO CHOICE !!


 On 09/10/2009, at 11:50 PM, Philippe Chaperon wrote:

 Hi Jon,

 For what its worth, is it practical for you to turn off your wireless
 network when not using the internet? That's what I have been doing ever
 since I noticed that some one was trying to access my wireless modem. I also
 changed my password having a combination of letters, some capitalized, and
 numerals. Not sure how efficient this is against a hard core hacker, but
 ever since then my downloads have been well within my limits.

 One of the more experienced listers may come up with a better solution
 though.

 Good luck  good night,

 Philippe C

 2009/10/9 Jon Davison photo...@iinet.net.au


 Hi everyone. We have a problem with our AAPT setup and wondering if anyone
 has experience with this?

 We keep getting messages from AAPT that we are about to, then exceed our
 download limit and our account will be 'throttled'.
 We have checked our usage and found that our account is using 750Mb, 450Mb
 etc when we are asleep! even as we are watching
 we see that it is being used. It is password protected and are using
 Airport Extreme.

 This morning at 1, 2, 3, 4am etc when we are in the land of nod, we are
 using 1Gb? For instance we were 'unthrottled' on the 7th,
 but today we are 'throttled' again as we have exceeded our monthly etc...

 My question firstly is, how do we change the Wireless password, two, how
 is it possible that our password could have been 'hacked'?

 We have called AAPT but they insist that of course we are downloading
 stuff, and no joy there.

 Should we change the password every week, month?

 Any help would be much appreciated.

 KInd regards
 Jon


 'R' Celebrating the Robinson Helicopter
 A new coffee-table book from Eye in the Sky Productions.
 Photographed by leading aviation photographer Jon Davison.
 Due for release late 2008
 Based in Western Australia
 M: 0403 235938
 E: j...@eyeinthesky.com.au
 W: http://www.eyeinthesky.com.au/robinson.html



 Regards,
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Re: Exceeding downloads

2009-10-09 Thread Jon Davison



Hi everyone. We have a problem with our AAPT setup and wondering if  
anyone has experience with this?


We keep getting messages from AAPT that we are about to, then exceed  
our download limit and our account will be 'throttled'.
We have checked our usage and found that our account is using 750Mb,  
450Mb etc when we are asleep! even as we are watching
we see that it is being used. It is password protected and are using  
Airport Extreme.


This morning at 1, 2, 3, 4am etc when we are in the land of nod, we  
are using 1Gb? For instance we were 'unthrottled' on the 7th,
but today we are 'throttled' again as we have exceeded our monthly  
etc...


My question firstly is, how do we change the Wireless password, two,  
how is it possible that our password could have been 'hacked'?


We have called AAPT but they insist that of course we are downloading  
stuff, and no joy there.


Should we change the password every week, month?

Any help would be much appreciated.

KInd regards
Jon


'R' Celebrating the Robinson Helicopter
A new coffee-table book from Eye in the Sky Productions.
Photographed by leading aviation photographer Jon Davison.
Due for release late 2008
Based in Western Australia
M: 0403 235938
E: j...@eyeinthesky.com.au
W: http://www.eyeinthesky.com.au/robinson.html






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Re: Exceeding downloads

2009-10-09 Thread Philippe Chaperon
Hi Jon,
For what its worth, is it practical for you to turn off your wireless
network when not using the internet? That's what I have been doing ever
since I noticed that some one was trying to access my wireless modem. I also
changed my password having a combination of letters, some capitalized, and
numerals. Not sure how efficient this is against a hard core hacker, but
ever since then my downloads have been well within my limits.

One of the more experienced listers may come up with a better solution
though.

Good luck  good night,

Philippe C

2009/10/9 Jon Davison photo...@iinet.net.au



 Hi everyone. We have a problem with our AAPT setup and wondering if anyone
 has experience with this?

 We keep getting messages from AAPT that we are about to, then exceed our
 download limit and our account will be 'throttled'.
 We have checked our usage and found that our account is using 750Mb, 450Mb
 etc when we are asleep! even as we are watching
 we see that it is being used. It is password protected and are using
 Airport Extreme.

 This morning at 1, 2, 3, 4am etc when we are in the land of nod, we are
 using 1Gb? For instance we were 'unthrottled' on the 7th,
 but today we are 'throttled' again as we have exceeded our monthly etc...

 My question firstly is, how do we change the Wireless password, two, how is
 it possible that our password could have been 'hacked'?

 We have called AAPT but they insist that of course we are downloading
 stuff, and no joy there.

 Should we change the password every week, month?

 Any help would be much appreciated.

 KInd regards
 Jon


 'R' Celebrating the Robinson Helicopter
 A new coffee-table book from Eye in the Sky Productions.
 Photographed by leading aviation photographer Jon Davison.
 Due for release late 2008
 Based in Western Australia
 M: 0403 235938
 E: j...@eyeinthesky.com.au
 W: http://www.eyeinthesky.com.au/robinson.html




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