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Dave P wrote: WDVL is one of internet.com's brands, and we don't have permission to use it. After all they've done hosting this excellent community over the years, I'm not going to stab them in the back by using their brand without their permission to do so. Tim sez: Agreed...they were incredibly kind. How about "wdevlist" or something like that? "wdev" being web developer, which is a little more identifying than "dev", but still keeping away from internet.com's idea of a library-related discussion list... Tim The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: arch...@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-51634309-230552.f22dcf5120bad5a91a87f69f1e923...@lists.wdvl.com To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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On 2009/03/16 22:58 (GMT) David Precious composed: > Felix Miata wrote: >> I missed the answer to why wdvltalk would be out of the question. How about >> wdvlcomm? dev* is way generic, not a mnemonic many would recognize. > WDVL is one of internet.com's brands, and we don't have permission to > use it. > After all they've done hosting this excellent community over the years, > I'm not going to stab them in the back by using their brand without > their permission to do so. > "devtalk" may be a bit generic, but I don't think it's too hard to > remember; and after all, that's what address books are for :) "Generic" isn't about existing members remembering. It's about new people discovering. I don't put it in an address book. I right click a saved post's address and select compose mail to, for all mailing lists I'm on except three. -- "The plans of the diligent lead to profit as surely as haste leads to poverty." Proverbs 21:5 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: arch...@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-51626704-230552.f22dcf5120bad5a91a87f69f1e923...@lists.wdvl.com To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Felix Miata wrote: I missed the answer to why wdvltalk would be out of the question. How about wdvlcomm? dev* is way generic, not a mnemonic many would recognize. WDVL is one of internet.com's brands, and we don't have permission to use it. After all they've done hosting this excellent community over the years, I'm not going to stab them in the back by using their brand without their permission to do so. "devtalk" may be a bit generic, but I don't think it's too hard to remember; and after all, that's what address books are for :) Cheers Dave P The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: arch...@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-51626559-230552.f22dcf5120bad5a91a87f69f1e923...@lists.wdvl.com To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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On 2009/03/16 18:31 (GMT) David Precious composed: > You said using the wdvltalk name is out of the question, so that's fine; > I'm thinking of something like devtalk? > That would make the list devt...@lists.preshweb.co.uk, unless we decide > we'd rather register a domain for it. > Thoughts, people? Does "devtalk" work as a name for you? If so, I'll > create it, and send a mail to the list with the subscribe page / address > so we can all join it in good time. I missed the answer to why wdvltalk would be out of the question. How about wdvlcomm? dev* is way generic, not a mnemonic many would recognize. -- "The plans of the diligent lead to profit as surely as haste leads to poverty." Proverbs 21:5 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: arch...@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-51625692-230552.f22dcf5120bad5a91a87f69f1e923...@lists.wdvl.com To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Yes, me too. I appreciate all the efforts to keep this list going. Riva On 3/16/2009 3:07 PM, K.F. Wu wrote: Hi Dave, Count me in for whatever 'List' name everybody comes to agree. Thanks for your take-over service. KoaFar The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: arch...@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-51625191-230552.f22dcf5120bad5a91a87f69f1e923...@lists.wdvl.com To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Hi Dave, Count me in for whatever 'List' name everybody comes to agree. Thanks for your take-over service. KoaFar At 11:31 AM 3/16/2009, you wrote: >Hi Linda, > >Thanks for the reply. > >Linda Cole wrote: >>I'm afraid the best I can come up with is a >>password protected area on a forum. You can set >>the forum preferences to notify you by email >>when there is a post to your subscribed >>threads, but you cannot reply by email; you >>would have to visit the forum to post to it. >>Talk it over and let me know what you decide to >>do. If you should decide to set up a new list, >>please post back here so everyone knows where to find you. > >We did discuss the forum idea, and the general >consensus was overwhelmingly against, so I don't >think the community would survive if we take that route. > >I think setting up a new list is the way to go, >so I'll do that soon; we just need a name. > >You said using the wdvltalk name is out of the >question, so that's fine; I'm thinking of something like devtalk? > >That would make the list >devt...@lists.preshweb.co.uk, unless we decide >we'd rather register a domain for it. > >Thoughts, people? Does "devtalk" work as a name >for you? If so, I'll create it, and send a mail >to the list with the subscribe page / address so >we can all join it in good time. > >Cheers > >Dave P > > > The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM >To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: >mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or >use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ > Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com >To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: >http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk > > http://www.wdvl.com ___ > >You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: fiat...@sbcglobal.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >leave-51624514-643727.bf3318a9d8d8cfc4382343ce1714c...@lists.wdvl.com >To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: >Jupitermedia Corp. >Attn: Discussion List Management >475 Park Avenue South >New York, NY 10016 > >Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: arch...@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-51624798-230552.f22dcf5120bad5a91a87f69f1e923...@lists.wdvl.com To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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From: "David Precious" Hi Linda, Thanks for the reply. Linda Cole wrote: I'm afraid the best I can come up with is a password protected area on a forum. You can set the forum preferences to notify you by email when there is a post to your subscribed threads, but you cannot reply by email; you would have to visit the forum to post to it. Talk it over and let me know what you decide to do. If you should decide to set up a new list, please post back here so everyone knows where to find you. We did discuss the forum idea, and the general consensus was overwhelmingly against, so I don't think the community would survive if we take that route. I think setting up a new list is the way to go, so I'll do that soon; we just need a name. You said using the wdvltalk name is out of the question, so that's fine; I'm thinking of something like devtalk? That would make the list devt...@lists.preshweb.co.uk, unless we decide we'd rather register a domain for it. Thoughts, people? Does "devtalk" work as a name for you? If so, I'll create it, and send a mail to the list with the subscribe page / address so we can all join it in good time. Cheers Dave P Works for me fine, Dave. I'll go with any concensus, so long as it's a list. Joseph Harris The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: arch...@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-51624743-230552.f22dcf5120bad5a91a87f69f1e923...@lists.wdvl.com To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Hi Linda, Thanks for the reply. Linda Cole wrote: I'm afraid the best I can come up with is a password protected area on a forum. You can set the forum preferences to notify you by email when there is a post to your subscribed threads, but you cannot reply by email; you would have to visit the forum to post to it. Talk it over and let me know what you decide to do. If you should decide to set up a new list, please post back here so everyone knows where to find you. We did discuss the forum idea, and the general consensus was overwhelmingly against, so I don't think the community would survive if we take that route. I think setting up a new list is the way to go, so I'll do that soon; we just need a name. You said using the wdvltalk name is out of the question, so that's fine; I'm thinking of something like devtalk? That would make the list devt...@lists.preshweb.co.uk, unless we decide we'd rather register a domain for it. Thoughts, people? Does "devtalk" work as a name for you? If so, I'll create it, and send a mail to the list with the subscribe page / address so we can all join it in good time. Cheers Dave P The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: arch...@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-51624514-230552.f22dcf5120bad5a91a87f69f1e923...@lists.wdvl.com To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Hi David, I'm afraid the best I can come up with is a password protected area on a forum. You can set the forum preferences to notify you by email when there is a post to your subscribed threads, but you cannot reply by email; you would have to visit the forum to post to it. Talk it over and let me know what you decide to do. If you should decide to set up a new list, please post back here so everyone knows where to find you. Thanks! Linda David Precious wrote: Hi Linda, Just wondered if you had any news for us on the future of the WDVL list? My offer to provide hosting for the list still stands, naturally. Not trying to rush you, just curious whether any decision has been made; we're half-way through the month, so I'm wondering whether I need to set up a new list or not :) Cheers Dave P • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: lc...@internet.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-51620466-162531.d1ed62d3acf97bfcae707aef8ada5...@lists.wdvl.com To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. -- lc...@internet.com 615-789-5944 Managing Editor DatabaseJournal http://databasejournal.com/ DBASupport http://dbasupport.com/ SQLCourse http://sqlcourse.com/ SQLCourse2 http://sqlcourse2.com/ Be a part of Mediabistro's ThinkMobile: Mobile Content & Marketing Strategies event, March 18-19, 2009 in New York City. Register early at www.thinkmobile.com for best rates. For updates, follow us on twitter: www.twitter.com/mobilecms • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: arch...@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-51624440-230552.f22dcf5120bad5a91a87f69f1e923...@lists.wdvl.com To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Hi Linda, Just wondered if you had any news for us on the future of the WDVL list? My offer to provide hosting for the list still stands, naturally. Not trying to rush you, just curious whether any decision has been made; we're half-way through the month, so I'm wondering whether I need to set up a new list or not :) Cheers Dave P The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: arch...@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-51620466-230552.f22dcf5120bad5a91a87f69f1e923...@lists.wdvl.com To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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David Precious wrote: Well, like I said, if I can be of assistance give me a shout; I'm happy to host it under the WDVL name for you if desired (and of course give you moderator access, if you still want to moderate this unruly mob ;)) Not sure I like that idea - it's the unruliness that's makes you lot so appealing! LOL Peter MacGregor The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: arch...@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-51479109-230552.f22dcf5120bad5a91a87f69f1e923...@lists.wdvl.com To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Linda Cole wrote: I looks like the majority of you have an aversion to forums. Therefore, we're going to look into resurrecting the old listserv. I'm not sure we can do this, I'm not sure we can get it approved, I'm not even sure we have what we need on the server. (Can you tell I'm not sure?) :) It's just an idea we've tossed up and now we're going to look into it. I'll keep you posted. Well, like I said, if I can be of assistance give me a shout; I'm happy to host it under the WDVL name for you if desired (and of course give you moderator access, if you still want to moderate this unruly mob ;)) And once again, thanks for all your efforts Linda. You rock The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: arch...@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-51468514-230552.f22dcf5120bad5a91a87f69f1e923...@lists.wdvl.com To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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List, I looks like the majority of you have an aversion to forums. Therefore, we're going to look into resurrecting the old listserv. I'm not sure we can do this, I'm not sure we can get it approved, I'm not even sure we have what we need on the server. (Can you tell I'm not sure?) :) It's just an idea we've tossed up and now we're going to look into it. I'll keep you posted. Thanks, Linda Linda Cole wrote: List, Since WDVLTalk has been such a tight community for such a long time, we're going to move the list to the Webdeveloper.com forums rather than close the list. http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/index.php Tentative plans are to give you your own forum, and not just dump you in the already existing forum. We hope to be able to move the Lyris list archives to WDVL.com where you will be able to access them. I'll keep you updated as I learn more. Thanks, Linda • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: w...@internet.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-51465564-7184574.d9808274e3903fd66860862613be0...@lists.wdvl.com To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. -- lc...@internet.com 615-789-5944 Managing Editor DatabaseJournal http://databasejournal.com/ DBASupport http://dbasupport.com/ SQLCourse http://sqlcourse.com/ SQLCourse2 http://sqlcourse2.com/ Be a part of Mediabistro's ThinkMobile: Mobile Content & Marketing Strategies event, March 18-19, 2009 in New York City. Register early at www.thinkmobile.com for best rates. For updates, follow us on twitter: www.twitter.com/mobilecms • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: arch...@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-51468211-230552.f22dcf5120bad5a91a87f69f1e923...@lists.wdvl.com To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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From: "Peter MacGregor" Well, I guess I may as well add my tuppence worth - before the banks lose all my money!! . Peter MacGregor Have no fear,they're nationalised. Now all you have to do is fill out a withdrawal request in triplicate and forward it to Peter Mandelson. As soon as he's finished edging Gordon the Unready out he'll attend to the pile. Joseph • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: arch...@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-51467437-230552.f22dcf5120bad5a91a87f69f1e923...@lists.wdvl.com To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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You have limited control, on our lists it is text based ads at the bottom of each email but not images, not html. By setting the list to classic format and no html you get unobtrusive stuff most ignore. Our Dreamweaver group has something like 5600-5800 members so it works for us. Cheryl D Wise April Session Classes http://starttoweb.com: Introduction to CSS Introduction to Expression Web -Original Message- From: David Precious Cheryl Hewitt wrote: > FYI: With Yahoo Groups you can set it up so that all posts are sent > to your email and you can reply from your personal email without > opening up the forum. ISTR that they insert adverts into at least some of the mails, and you don't get that much control over it? The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: arch...@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-51467115-230552.f22dcf5120bad5a91a87f69f1e923...@lists.wdvl.com To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Cheryl, Yahoo groups is a mail list with a web interface that people can choose to access if they want. It is not a forum in the same sense we are discussing. I own/moderate several Yahoo and Google Groups. That is why they are called groups not forums. What Ruby was talking about are forums with email notification of posts in thread/topics you subscribe to. Most of which also have RSS feeds that act in a similar one way manner. Not ones you post to via email. Cheryl D Wise April Session Classes http://starttoweb.com: Introduction to CSS Introduction to Expression Web -Original Message- From: Cheryl Hewitt FYI: With Yahoo Groups you can set it up so that all posts are sent to your email and you can reply from your personal email without opening up the forum. � The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM � To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: arch...@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-51467011-230552.f22dcf5120bad5a91a87f69f1e923...@lists.wdvl.com To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Cheryl Hewitt wrote: FYI: With Yahoo Groups you can set it up so that all posts are sent to your email and you can reply from your personal email without opening up the forum. ISTR that they insert adverts into at least some of the mails, and you don't get that much control over it? The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: arch...@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-51466991-230552.f22dcf5120bad5a91a87f69f1e923...@lists.wdvl.com To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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FYI: With Yahoo Groups you can set it up so that all posts are sent to your
email and you can reply from your personal email without opening up the forum.
-Cheryl
Cheryl D Wise wrote:
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Problem with email notification is that you can't reply by email. You have
to visit the forum to post and that's where the system you describe fails
for me. I've been doing a lot more traveling the last couple of years. So I
read and reply to email frequently on my mobile. Can't do that easily on
forums because few are mobile friendly. Even for better devices using Safari
or Skyfire or Opera.
Forums have their uses and I even participate in some but not my preference
for how I work.
Cheryl D Wise
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-Original Message-
From: r937
> ... I don't have to fire up my browser and visit a particular
> site in order to search for a thread that I once posted on
with a forum, you get an email every time someone replies in a thread that
you're subscribed to
you are automatically subscribed to every thread in which you have posted,
and you can subscribe to other threads as well
so this is ~much~ better than a mailing list, because
1. you get emails for every thread you're interested in, and
2. you ~don't~ get emails for ~everything~ that's posted on the forum
some people might view this second point as a drawback ("i don't get to see
everything that's going on any more") but it's really a feature -- you can
easily see the "everything" list of posts by visiting the "get new posts"
page in the forum
i've been on multiple forums for between 7 and 9 years, and forums are more
member-friendly than mailing lists
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Problem with email notification is that you can't reply by email. You have
to visit the forum to post and that's where the system you describe fails
for me. I've been doing a lot more traveling the last couple of years. So I
read and reply to email frequently on my mobile. Can't do that easily on
forums because few are mobile friendly. Even for better devices using Safari
or Skyfire or Opera.
Forums have their uses and I even participate in some but not my preference
for how I work.
Cheryl D Wise
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Introduction to Expression Web
-Original Message-
From: r937
> ... I don't have to fire up my browser and visit a particular
> site in order to search for a thread that I once posted on
with a forum, you get an email every time someone replies in a thread that
you're subscribed to
you are automatically subscribed to every thread in which you have posted,
and you can subscribe to other threads as well
so this is ~much~ better than a mailing list, because
1. you get emails for every thread you're interested in, and
2. you ~don't~ get emails for ~everything~ that's posted on the forum
some people might view this second point as a drawback ("i don't get to see
everything that's going on any more") but it's really a feature -- you can
easily see the "everything" list of posts by visiting the "get new posts"
page in the forum
i've been on multiple forums for between 7 and 9 years, and forums are more
member-friendly than mailing lists
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Mail list, I hate visiting forums so I rarely do, even active ones. Cheryl D Wise April Session Classes http://starttoweb.com: Introduction to CSS Introduction to Expression Web Linda Cole wrote: > Since WDVLTalk has been such a tight community for such a long time, > we're going to move the list to the Webdeveloper.com forums rather than > close the list. http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/index.php Tentative > plans are to give you your own forum, and not just dump you in the > already existing forum. We hope to be able to move the Lyris list > archives to WDVL.com where you will be able to access them. I'll keep > you updated as I learn more. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: arch...@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-51466768-230552.f22dcf5120bad5a91a87f69f1e923...@lists.wdvl.com To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Well, I guess I may as well add my tuppence worth - before the banks lose all my money!! I'm with those that want to maintain a mailing list. I've found this list extremely useful - I've been able to follow threads about things I haven't been involved in but they have been useful to my learning process. I agree the list would probably die if it became a forum. Seems we're voting for the name of the new list that David has said he'll host. WDAG seemed OK until it was pointed out two other groups use it! We could get all sorts of irrelevant postings turning up! Given we produce Web Sites, how about Site Technical Advice Group? (STAG) Web information Group? (WIG) There's always WAG (Web Advice Group) but the footballers wives might stamp their Jimmy Choos at that one! LOL. I echo the thanks to Linda for her help - Not sure how many years I've been on here - must be approaching seven or eight I guess - but throughout she's been a great moderator. Are you safe at Jupiter Linda - or does the end of this list indicate worse things are happening? Good Luck to all and keep me on any new list please - though I will alter the e-mail name a little when that starts up. Peter MacGregor Linda Cole wrote: List, Since WDVLTalk has been such a tight community for such a long time, we're going to move the list to the Webdeveloper.com forums rather than close the list. http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/index.php Tentative plans are to give you your own forum, and not just dump you in the already existing forum. We hope to be able to move the Lyris list archives to WDVL.com where you will be able to access them. I'll keep you updated as I learn more. Thanks, Linda • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: ranwo...@ranworth.co.uk To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-51465564-1538542.7a88344516408e80f304f0530cac7...@lists.wdvl.com To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: arch...@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-51466265-230552.f22dcf5120bad5a91a87f69f1e923...@lists.wdvl.com To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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On 2009/03/05 10:02 (GMT-0500) r937 composed: > i've been on multiple forums for between 7 and 9 years, and forums are more > member-friendly than mailing lists I frequent only one web forum, and that only because there is no alternative in existence. The many web forums I have visited are among the most unfriendly web sites in existence. Almost without exception they size text in px or pt, and in tiny or smaller sizes, in columns that produce much too long line lengths. The few that don't use px or pt text sizing invariably size content text at .76em or smaller, usually much smaller. Usually all input and textarea boxes are too short and/or too narrow for comfortable composition, if not normally at least after zooming the requisite 3-4 times to get big enough text. Both Usenet and mailing lists are far superior to all forums I've visited. Setting up a mailing list on Google & Yahoo Groups is free. Both forum and mailing list could be set up, and the mods could compare to see which is actually more popular for this membership. -- "The plans of the diligent lead to profit as surely as haste leads to poverty." Proverbs 21:5 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: arch...@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-51466248-230552.f22dcf5120bad5a91a87f69f1e923...@lists.wdvl.com To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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r937 wrote:
... I don't have to fire up my browser and visit a particular
site in order to search for a thread that I once posted on
with a forum, you get an email every time someone replies in a thread
that you're subscribed to
you are automatically subscribed to every thread in which you have
posted, and you can subscribe to other threads as well
so this is ~much~ better than a mailing list, because
1. you get emails for every thread you're interested in, and
2. you ~don't~ get emails for ~everything~ that's posted on the forum
some people might view this second point as a drawback ("i don't get to
see everything that's going on any more") but it's really a feature --
you can easily see the "everything" list of posts by visiting the "get
new posts" page in the forum
i've been on multiple forums for between 7 and 9 years, and forums are
more member-friendly than mailing lists
I respectfully disagree.
This is a quiet community; I'm not going to be checking a forum every
day or two to see if there's any new messages; if and when there are, I
want them delivered to me. I suspect many other members will likely
feel the same way.
If we moved to a forum, lots of questions that would have been answered
quite promptly on the list would never be answered (or would be answered
so late as to make the answers unlikely to help any more) simply because
people won't see the question.
I've been on (and am still a member of) various forums, and also an a
member of various mailing lists) - I find mailing lists infinitely more
useful.
Forums have their uses, but I really don't think one would be suited to
this community.
This isn't a high-volume list, it's not like you get flooded with mail,
and any half-decent email client can filter mail however you want.
Cheers
Dave P
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... I don't have to fire up my browser and visit a particular
site in order to search for a thread that I once posted on
with a forum, you get an email every time someone replies in a thread that
you're subscribed to
you are automatically subscribed to every thread in which you have posted,
and you can subscribe to other threads as well
so this is ~much~ better than a mailing list, because
1. you get emails for every thread you're interested in, and
2. you ~don't~ get emails for ~everything~ that's posted on the forum
some people might view this second point as a drawback ("i don't get to see
everything that's going on any more") but it's really a feature -- you can
easily see the "everything" list of posts by visiting the "get new posts"
page in the forum
i've been on multiple forums for between 7 and 9 years, and forums are more
member-friendly than mailing lists
rudy
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Quoting Linda Cole : > List, > > Since WDVLTalk has been such a tight community for such a long time, > we're going to move the list to the Webdeveloper.com forums rather than > close the list. http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/index.php Tentative > plans are to give you your own forum, and not just dump you in the > already existing forum. We hope to be able to move the Lyris list > archives to WDVL.com where you will be able to access them. I'll keep > you updated as I learn more. Hi Linda, Whilst the fact that WDVLTalk may continue is excellent, the thought of this list moving to forums fills me with dread. One of the main reasons I stay subscribed to WDVLTalk is because the messages come into my inbox, I don't have to fire up my browser and visit a particular site in order to search for a thread that I once posted on, everything is in my email client and fully searchable. Everyone checks their email every day, if the list moved to a forum, I think that the list would die out as we don't all have time to check the forums. I don't know if I'm on my own here, however if the list is to be moved to a forum, could internet.com at least consider a setup such as Nabble or mail2phpbb so that those of us who have a dislike of forums can still interact using email? Thanks, Matt. -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace matt...@truthisfreedom.org.uk http://www.truthisfreedom.org.uk/ The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: arch...@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-51465774-230552.f22dcf5120bad5a91a87f69f1e923...@lists.wdvl.com To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Hi Linda, Linda Cole wrote: Since WDVLTalk has been such a tight community for such a long time, we're going to move the list to the Webdeveloper.com forums rather than close the list. http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/index.php Tentative plans are to give you your own forum, and not just dump you in the already existing forum. We hope to be able to move the Lyris list archives to WDVL.com where you will be able to access them. I'll keep you updated as I learn more. Does this mean keeping a mailing list, or replacing it with a web-based forum? To be totally honest, I'm not sure that a forum will really work out for a community which often has long periods of silence; people won't keep checking a forum in the hope that there might have been a post. Operating as a mailing list rather than a forum seems a better fit for the community, in my opinion at least. If it's solely an issue of cost, I'd be happy to host the list for you on my mailman install; you could point lists.wdvl.com there if you wanted to, and I'd be happy to help with moderation too if it would help? Many thanks David P The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:subscribe-wdvlt...@intm-dl.sparklist.com or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: arch...@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-51465589-230552.f22dcf5120bad5a91a87f69f1e923...@lists.wdvl.com To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
