Overriding components - bug or feature?

2010-04-21 Thread Marius Soutier
Hi there!

I've just experienced a strange issue in WebObject 5.4. Our application uses 
several internal frameworks to display certain areas of the application. All 
frameworks are always included and only a property defines if the area should 
be displayed or not.

A colleague created a new framework which was a customer-specific version of an 
existing one. So he went ahead and copied the old components to the new 
framework and made sure the component classes were in a different package than 
the original ones. So far, no problem, he even enabled both frameworks side by 
side, everything working fine.

However, when we deployed it on the server, the framework that came first on 
the classpath was used over the other one - the Java classes were loaded 
correctly, only the WODs were wrong. I could reproduce this behavior on my 
machine, but not on my colleague's. Turns out he is still on WO 5.4.2, while 
I'm on 5.4.3.

Is this behavior known, intended? Is there a fix except renaming the components?


Thanks,
- Marius
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Eclipse - Embedding Frameworks

2010-04-21 Thread David Griffith
Hi all,

I know this is a basic question but I can't remember how to do it.  If I want 
to embed the Wonder frameworks rather than just linking to them, how do  I do 
it?  I'm using Eclipse on Mac OS X.

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Re: Eclipse - Embedding Frameworks

2010-04-21 Thread David LeBer

On 2010-04-21, at 7:32 AM, David Griffith wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I know this is a basic question but I can't remember how to do it.  If I want 
 to embed the Wonder frameworks rather than just linking to them, how do  I do 
 it?  I'm using Eclipse on Mac OS X.


Ctrl click on project in WO Explorer - Properties - Wolips Deployment - 
Embed frameworks.

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Re: Eclipse - Embedding Frameworks

2010-04-21 Thread David Griffith
Excellent, thanks David.  I just couldn't remember where it was.

Another question, as there are 5 options in there for embedding frameworks, 
Project, User, Local, System and Network, which should I use?  I have for 
example one framework of my own which I have added in, then you have the WO 
frameworks like JavaEOAccess etc and then also the ER frameworks.  I'm just 
exactly sure which ones fall into which classification.  I don't particularly 
want a gigantic project file to upload once I'm finished building so I'd like 
to omit as many as are not necessary for me to embed.

What I am doing is developing on Mac OS X and deploying to CentOS5.  The WO 
frameworks are installed on the server already and I don't intend to run 
multiple WO versions concurrently.  I think what I want to do is embed such 
frameworks as the Wonder ones and my own ones.  Would Project and User be 
sufficient or can you indicate which frameworks would come under which 
classification above?

Thanks for the help,
David.

On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:43 PM, David LeBer wrote:


On 2010-04-21, at 7:32 AM, David Griffith wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I know this is a basic question but I can't remember how to do it.  If I want 
 to embed the Wonder frameworks rather than just linking to them, how do  I do 
 it?  I'm using Eclipse on Mac OS X.


Ctrl click on project in WO Explorer - Properties - Wolips Deployment - 
Embed frameworks.

;david

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Re: Eclipse - Embedding Frameworks

2010-04-21 Thread David LeBer

On 2010-04-21, at 7:50 AM, David Griffith wrote:

 Excellent, thanks David.  I just couldn't remember where it was.
 
 Another question, as there are 5 options in there for embedding frameworks, 
 Project, User, Local, System and Network, which should I use?  I have for 
 example one framework of my own which I have added in, then you have the WO 
 frameworks like JavaEOAccess etc and then also the ER frameworks.  I'm just 
 exactly sure which ones fall into which classification.  I don't particularly 
 want a gigantic project file to upload once I'm finished building so I'd like 
 to omit as many as are not necessary for me to embed.
 
 What I am doing is developing on Mac OS X and deploying to CentOS5.  The WO 
 frameworks are installed on the server already and I don't intend to run 
 multiple WO versions concurrently.  I think what I want to do is embed such 
 frameworks as the Wonder ones and my own ones.  Would Project and User be 
 sufficient or can you indicate which frameworks would come under which 
 classification above?
 
 Thanks for the help,
 David.

We make it a habit to embed all frameworks. We've just found it eliminates 
headaches later.

We never have project or user level frameworks, so those two settings don't 
really apply, but selecting them doesn't hurt either so we just leave the first 
4 checked.

To clarify, by default those settings mean:

Project - Frameworks in your project's Library/Frameworks (I think).
User - Frameworks in ~/Library/Frameworks
Local - Frameworks in /Library/Frameworks
System - Frameworks in /System/Library/Frameworks

Frameworks you wish to embed need to be installed into their appropriate 
directories. They cannot just be in your workspace.

 On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:43 PM, David LeBer wrote:
 
 
 On 2010-04-21, at 7:32 AM, David Griffith wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I know this is a basic question but I can't remember how to do it.  If I 
 want to embed the Wonder frameworks rather than just linking to them, how do 
  I do it?  I'm using Eclipse on Mac OS X.
 
 
 Ctrl click on project in WO Explorer - Properties - Wolips Deployment - 
 Embed frameworks.

;david

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Re: Overriding components - bug or feature?

2010-04-21 Thread Mike Schrag
at one point there was an NSBundle bug where all embedded framework jars would 
load into the application bundle, effectively making the classpath order 
irrelevant for the purposes of component name resolution (among some other 
things). i don't have any idea if this was fixed in 5.4.3 or not. it's fixed in 
wonder.

On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:04 AM, Marius Soutier wrote:

 Hi there!
 
 I've just experienced a strange issue in WebObject 5.4. Our application uses 
 several internal frameworks to display certain areas of the application. All 
 frameworks are always included and only a property defines if the area should 
 be displayed or not.
 
 A colleague created a new framework which was a customer-specific version of 
 an existing one. So he went ahead and copied the old components to the new 
 framework and made sure the component classes were in a different package 
 than the original ones. So far, no problem, he even enabled both frameworks 
 side by side, everything working fine.
 
 However, when we deployed it on the server, the framework that came first on 
 the classpath was used over the other one - the Java classes were loaded 
 correctly, only the WODs were wrong. I could reproduce this behavior on my 
 machine, but not on my colleague's. Turns out he is still on WO 5.4.2, while 
 I'm on 5.4.3.
 
 Is this behavior known, intended? Is there a fix except renaming the 
 components?
 
 
 Thanks,
 - Marius
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Re: Instances Stopped Starting

2010-04-21 Thread Jeffrey Simpson
Thanks for the reply.  I have not figured it out yet.  I have made sure none of 
our other machines are running WOMonitor and none were.


Jeffrey Simpson
Senior Software Engineer
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Fax: 240.235.2174

Youth For Understanding (YFU) prepares young people for their responsibilities 
and opportunities in a changing, interdependent world. simp...@yfu.orgon Apr 
19, 2010, at 5:09 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

 Did you get anywhere on this?


 On Apr 16, 2010, at 7:17 AM, Jeffrey Simpson wrote:

 I have an application that we run instances on multiple boxes.
 Recently they stopped starting on one of the boxes.  It is not a
 case of them trying to start and dieing.  It looks like they are not
 starting at all.  I have found that if I do Synchronize Host on
 the box after I tell monitor to start them they then startup.

 Have you checked the configuration written on that machine (/Library/
 WebObjects/Configuration/SiteConfig.xml)?  Perhaps that is getting
 overwritten / erased.  That can happen if JavaMonitor gets run on more
 than one machine.  Synchronize Host would write a fresh copy so that
 would explain why the instances start after that.


 I do not know if it is connected but sometime I can not get the box
 to reboot from the command prompt.

 You can ssh into the box, but rebooting gets cancelled?  Is there a
 GUI login that is canceling the restart?

 Chuck


 When that happens I have to do the equivalent of unplugging the box
 to get it to reboot.  Does anyone have any ideas?  Below is some
 info on the box:

 2 Dual Core Intel Processors
 8 Gb Ram
 OSX 10.4.11

 WebObjects 5.3.3


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DB2

2010-04-21 Thread Jeffrey Simpson
Does anyone else use DB2 with WebObjects?  I have was thinking of cleaning up 
my DB2 plugin and submitting it to Wonder.  I did not write most of it.  All 
the comments are in German and the dates are all pre 2004.  I would love to 
know who the author was.  If someone has a more up to date Db2 plugin I would 
love to  know.

I have been upgrading my app to 5.4 and started to get the following error on 
inserts:

EvaluateExpression failed: 
com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.As400PlugIn$As400Expression: INSERT INTO 
YFUALFADEV.USERNAME_PASSWORD_SESSION(USERNAME_PASSWORD_ID, APP_INSTANCE, 
BROWSER_SESSION_ID, CLIENT_IP, PLATFORM, BROWSER_VERSION, SESSION_ID, 
ADVISELOGOUT, BROWSER_NAME, LOGIN_TIME, LOGOUT_TIME, APP_HOST, ID, CLIENT_HOST) 
VALUES (?, ?, ?, NULL, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, NULL, ?, ?, NULL) withBindings: 
1:3220(usernamePasswordID), 2:-1(applicationInstance), 
3:A0C108B79214BFB73C25DBDA6EE2D860(browserSessionID), 4:MacOS(platform), 
5:5.0(browserVersion), 6:jXggdoBSYar5rpo6iMhT7g(sessionID), 
7:1(adviseLogout), 8:Mozilla(browserName), 9:2010-04-21 10:42:32(loginTime), 
10:chekov.yfuusa.local(applicationHost), 11:-12508119(id): Next 
exception:SQL State:22501 -- error code: -311 -- msg: [SQL0311] Length in a 
varying-length or LOB host variable not valid. Cause . . . . . : Host variable 
was specified. The value in the length portion of the variable length or LOB 
host variable is either negative or greater than the declared length. If the 
host variable is graphic the length should be the number of DBCS characters. 
The host variable number is . The specified length is . The variable is 
declared to have length . Recovery . . . : Change the length portion of the 
varying-length or LOB host variable to a valid positive number or zero. Try the 
request again. Next exception:SQL Warning:01H10 -- error code: -9 -- msg: 
Extra URL elements are ignored.

Anyone have any idea?  I checked the model and none of the values are larger 
then the columns.  Do you think rewriting the plugin to match the Wonder 
examples may help?



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Re: DB2

2010-04-21 Thread Pascal Robert


Le 10-04-21 à 10:45, Jeffrey Simpson a écrit :


Does anyone else use DB2 with WebObjects?


Looking at the results of the 2009 surveys, only two organizations are  
using EOF with DB2, yours being one of the two.


 I have was thinking of cleaning up my DB2 plugin and submitting it  
to Wonder.  I did not write most of it.  All the comments are in  
German and the dates are all pre 2004.  I would love to know who the  
author was.  If someone has a more up to date Db2 plugin I would  
love to  know.


I have been upgrading my app to 5.4 and started to get the following  
error on inserts:


EvaluateExpression failed: com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.As400PlugIn 
$As400Expression: INSERT INTO  
YFUALFADEV.USERNAME_PASSWORD_SESSION(USERNAME_PASSWORD_ID,  
APP_INSTANCE, BROWSER_SESSION_ID, CLIENT_IP, PLATFORM,  
BROWSER_VERSION, SESSION_ID, ADVISELOGOUT, BROWSER_NAME, LOGIN_TIME,  
LOGOUT_TIME, APP_HOST, ID, CLIENT_HOST) VALUES (?, ?, ?,  
NULL, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, NULL, ?, ?, NULL) withBindings:  
1:3220(usernamePasswordID), 2:-1(applicationInstance),  
3:A0C108B79214BFB73C25DBDA6EE2D860(browserSessionID),  
4:MacOS(platform), 5:5.0(browserVersion),  
6:jXggdoBSYar5rpo6iMhT7g(sessionID), 7:1(adviseLogout),  
8:Mozilla(browserName), 9:2010-04-21 10:42:32(loginTime),  
10:chekov.yfuusa.local(applicationHost), 11:-12508119(id): Next  
exception:SQL State:22501 -- error code: -311 -- msg: [SQL0311]  
Length in a varying-length or LOB host variable not valid.  
Cause . . . . . : Host variable was specified. The value in the  
length portion of the variable length or LOB host variable is either  
negative or greater than the declared length. If the host variable  
is graphic the length should be the number of DBCS characters. The  
host variable number is . The specified length is . The variable is  
declared to have length . Recovery . . . : Change the length portion  
of the varying-length or LOB host variable to a valid positive  
number or zero. Try the request again. Next exception:SQL Warning: 
01H10 -- error code: -9 -- msg: Extra URL elements are ignored.


Anyone have any idea?  I checked the model and none of the values  
are larger then the columns.  Do you think rewriting the plugin to  
match the Wonder examples may help?




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Re: Instances Stopped Starting

2010-04-21 Thread Klaus Berkling

On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:33 AM, Jeffrey Simpson wrote:

 Thanks for the reply.  I have not figured it out yet.  I have made sure none 
 of our other machines are running WOMonitor and none were.

Did you try launching it form the command line?
This could be a permissions thing.

kib

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announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Mike Schrag
Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last day 
at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to worry, 
though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my responsibilities, so 
I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a really good job 
demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with Entity Modeler app, 
eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently with ERModernLook. The 
folks over there appreciate the value of the WebObjects and Wonder communities, 
and I look forward to a lot of exciting things in the future.

As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been a 
great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I came on, 
Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how great it was. 
When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of books, WWDC 
videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also 
consistently made a substantial investment in the community, supporting every 
bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the build 
servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for that.

For the things you guys may directly care about:

* WOLips - still working on it
* Wonder - still working on it
* Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
* WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity

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msch...@pobox.com email address.

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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Miguel Arroz
Hi!

  Congratulations! :) It's certainly good news for you, Apple and the future of 
WO.

  Best wishes for your new journey.

  Yours

Miguel Arroz

On 2010/04/21, at 17:33, Mike Schrag wrote:

 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last 
 day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to 
 worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with 
 Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently 
 with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of the 
 WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting 
 things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been a 
 great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I came on, 
 Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how great it 
 was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of books, 
 WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also 
 consistently made a substantial investment in the community, supporting every 
 bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the build 
 servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
 To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can use my 
 msch...@pobox.com email address.
 
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread David LeBer

On 2010-04-21, at 12:33 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last 
 day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to 
 worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with 
 Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently 
 with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of the 
 WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting 
 things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been a 
 great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I came on, 
 Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how great it 
 was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of books, 
 WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also 
 consistently made a substantial investment in the community, supporting every 
 bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the build 
 servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
 To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can use my 
 msch...@pobox.com email address.
 
 ms

Congratulations Mike!

Let me just take this opportunity to thank you (and mDT) for everything you 
have given to the community over the past 5 years. 

Good luck working on the 'inside'!

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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Mark Ritchie
On 21/Apr/2010, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last day at mDimension. 
 A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple.

Congratulations!
See you soon! ;-)
M.

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input dates info needed

2010-04-21 Thread Theodore Petrosky
I need to permit my users (of my app) to input dates. I am so enthralled with 
how easy some things are in webobjects and I can not seem to find an easy 
solution to my problem.

I want the user to be able to type in  02152010 or 2-15-2010 or 2/15/2010 and 
the input would properly format to what I am telling the format to be.

ie. you type 02152010 and tab to the next field and the date is formatted to 
02.15.2010.

I am hoping someone will tell me there is an easy framework that can do this 
and I have been barking up the wrong tree...

Ted


  
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread David Holt
Wow! Congratulations Mike. 

On 2010-04-21, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last 
 day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to 
 worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with 
 Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently 
 with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of the 
 WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting 
 things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been a 
 great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I came on, 
 Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how great it 
 was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of books, 
 WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also 
 consistently made a substantial investment in the community, supporting every 
 bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the build 
 servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
 To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can use my 
 msch...@pobox.com email address.
 
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Kieran Kelleher
Congratulations Mike, a great personal win for you. Thanks for all you have 
contributed to WOLips/Wonder.

-Kieran

On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:33 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last 
 day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to 
 worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with 
 Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently 
 with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of the 
 WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting 
 things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been a 
 great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I came on, 
 Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how great it 
 was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of books, 
 WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also 
 consistently made a substantial investment in the community, supporting every 
 bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the build 
 servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Ricardo J. Parada
WO is in good hands! :-)


On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:12 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

 Congratulations Mike, a great personal win for you. Thanks for all you have 
 contributed to WOLips/Wonder.
 
 -Kieran
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:33 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last 
 day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to 
 worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with 
 Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently 
 with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of the 
 WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting 
 things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been a 
 great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I came on, 
 Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how great it 
 was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of books, 
 WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also 
 consistently made a substantial investment in the community, supporting 
 every bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the 
 build servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
 To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can use my 
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread David Avendasora
Congratulations Mike, that's really great news!

Dave

On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:33 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last 
 day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to 
 worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with 
 Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently 
 with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of the 
 WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting 
 things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been a 
 great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I came on, 
 Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how great it 
 was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of books, 
 WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also 
 consistently made a substantial investment in the community, supporting every 
 bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the build 
 servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
 To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can use my 
 msch...@pobox.com email address.
 
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Re: input dates info needed

2010-04-21 Thread Chuck Hill


On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:57 AM, Theodore Petrosky wrote:

I need to permit my users (of my app) to input dates. I am so  
enthralled with how easy some things are in webobjects and I can not  
seem to find an easy solution to my problem.


I want the user to be able to type in  02152010 or 2-15-2010 or  
2/15/2010 and the input would properly format to what I am telling  
the format to be.


ERChronic in Wonder should be able to infer the intended date.


ie. you type 02152010 and tab to the next field and the date is  
formatted to 02.15.2010.


If you want it to change on tab, then you either need an JavaScript  
solution, or Ajax to send that field to the server, have ERChronic  
translate it, then return an updated value for display.



I am hoping someone will tell me there is an easy framework that can  
do this and I have been barking up the wrong tree...



You could use the AjaxDatePicker and avoid having the user type  
anything at all.


Chuck


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Re: DB2

2010-04-21 Thread Chuck Hill


On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:45 AM, Jeffrey Simpson wrote:

Does anyone else use DB2 with WebObjects?  I have was thinking of  
cleaning up my DB2 plugin and submitting it to Wonder.  I did not  
write most of it.  All the comments are in German and the dates are  
all pre 2004.  I would love to know who the author was.  If someone  
has a more up to date Db2 plugin I would love to  know.


We have not used it for a while now, but I think having support in  
Wonder would be good.



I have been upgrading my app to 5.4 and started to get the following  
error on inserts:


EvaluateExpression failed: com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.As400PlugIn 
$As400Expression: INSERT INTO  
YFUALFADEV.USERNAME_PASSWORD_SESSION(USERNAME_PASSWORD_ID,  
APP_INSTANCE, BROWSER_SESSION_ID, CLIENT_IP, PLATFORM,  
BROWSER_VERSION, SESSION_ID, ADVISELOGOUT, BROWSER_NAME, LOGIN_TIME,  
LOGOUT_TIME, APP_HOST, ID, CLIENT_HOST) VALUES (?, ?, ?,  
NULL, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, NULL, ?, ?, NULL) withBindings:  
1:3220(usernamePasswordID), 2:-1(applicationInstance),  
3:A0C108B79214BFB73C25DBDA6EE2D860(browserSessionID),  
4:MacOS(platform), 5:5.0(browserVersion),  
6:jXggdoBSYar5rpo6iMhT7g(sessionID), 7:1(adviseLogout),  
8:Mozilla(browserName), 9:2010-04-21 10:42:32(loginTime),  
10:chekov.yfuusa.local(applicationHost), 11:-12508119(id): Next  
exception:SQL State:22501 -- error code: -311 -- msg: [SQL0311]  
Length in a varying-length or LOB host variable not valid.  
Cause . . . . . : Host variable was specified. The value in the  
length portion of the variable length or LOB host variable is either  
negative or greater than the declared length. If the host variable  
is graphic the length should be the number of DBCS characters. The  
host variable number is . The specified length is . The variable is  
declared to have length . Recovery . . . : Change the length portion  
of the varying-length or LOB host variable to a valid positive  
number or zero. Try the request again. Next exception:SQL Warning: 
01H10 -- error code: -9 -- msg: Extra URL elements are ignored.


I am not sure what that means.  Are you using Wonder?  If not, is  
there out dated jdbc2info in your EOModel?  It kind of seems like it  
is interpreting what you are using for varchar as CLOB.



Anyone have any idea?  I checked the model and none of the values  
are larger then the columns.  Do you think rewriting the plugin to  
match the Wonder examples may help?



It might, but it seems more like a mismatch in data type.  Are the  
wrong prototypes getting loaded?  Do you need an updated DB2 JDBC  
driver?



Chuck


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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Pascal Robert
Can we pay you a couple of bucks to fix the 128 remaining Jiras for  
Wonder before April 30? :-)


Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be  
my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at  
Apple. Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be  
part of my responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think  
iTMS has done a really good job demonstrating that they're committed  
to contributing, with Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a  
substantial amount of work recently with ERModernLook. The folks  
over there appreciate the value of the WebObjects and Wonder  
communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting things in the  
future.


As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have  
been a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years  
before I came on, Bill would tell me about this framework called  
WebObjects and how great it was. When I started at mDT, he got me  
going with WO with a bunch of books, WWDC videos, and helpful  
guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also consistently  
made a substantial investment in the community, supporting every bit  
of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the  
build servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for that.


For the things you guys may directly care about:

* WOLips - still working on it
* Wonder - still working on it
* Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
* WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity

To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you  
can use my msch...@pobox.com email address.


ms
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Mike Schrag
you can if you want, but i'll be fixing them anyway, including after Apr 30 ...

ms

On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

 Can we pay you a couple of bucks to fix the 128 remaining Jiras for Wonder 
 before April 30? :-)
 
 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last 
 day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to 
 worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with 
 Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently 
 with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of the 
 WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting 
 things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been a 
 great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I came on, 
 Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how great it 
 was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of books, 
 WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also 
 consistently made a substantial investment in the community, supporting 
 every bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the 
 build servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
 To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can use my 
 msch...@pobox.com email address.
 
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Anjo Krank
And for the most part, we do *not* keep other people from writing or applying 
patches. There are ~40 committers for Wonder. There is no reason why only Mike 
should do patches and stuff.

Cheers, Anjo

Am 21.04.2010 um 20:45 schrieb Mike Schrag:

 you can if you want, but i'll be fixing them anyway, including after Apr 30 
 ...
 
 ms
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
 Can we pay you a couple of bucks to fix the 128 remaining Jiras for Wonder 
 before April 30? :-)
 
 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last 
 day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to 
 worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with 
 Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently 
 with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of the 
 WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting 
 things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been a 
 great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I came 
 on, Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how great 
 it was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of 
 books, WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT 
 has also consistently made a substantial investment in the community, 
 supporting every bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, 
 WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them 
 for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
 To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can use 
 my msch...@pobox.com email address.
 
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Pascal Robert
I know that, but I don't have commit access :-) And yes, I do hope  
others will help out with commits.


And for the most part, we do *not* keep other people from writing or  
applying patches. There are ~40 committers for Wonder. There is no  
reason why only Mike should do patches and stuff.


Cheers, Anjo

Am 21.04.2010 um 20:45 schrieb Mike Schrag:

you can if you want, but i'll be fixing them anyway, including  
after Apr 30 ...


ms

On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

Can we pay you a couple of bucks to fix the 128 remaining Jiras  
for Wonder before April 30? :-)


Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will  
be my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a  
position at Apple. Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and  
Wonder will be part of my responsibilities, so I'm far from  
disappearing. I think iTMS has done a really good job  
demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with Entity  
Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work  
recently with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the  
value of the WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look  
forward to a lot of exciting things in the future.


As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They  
have been a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For  
years before I came on, Bill would tell me about this framework  
called WebObjects and how great it was. When I started at mDT, he  
got me going with WO with a bunch of books, WWDC videos, and  
helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also  
consistently made a substantial investment in the community,  
supporting every bit of development that I've done in WOLips,  
Wonder, WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my time here,  
and I applaud them for that.


For the things you guys may directly care about:

* WOLips - still working on it
* Wonder - still working on it
* Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
* WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple  
capacity


To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you  
can use my msch...@pobox.com email address.


ms
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Chuck Hill
It is his own fault for writing so damn much of it in the first  
place!  :-P


I try to fix things when (a) I have time and (b) I use what is being  
fixed so I have some idea if I am breaking things.


But yes, more people could fix some of the bugs.

Chuck


On Apr 21, 2010, at 11:49 AM, Anjo Krank wrote:

And for the most part, we do *not* keep other people from writing or  
applying patches. There are ~40 committers for Wonder. There is no  
reason why only Mike should do patches and stuff.


Cheers, Anjo

Am 21.04.2010 um 20:45 schrieb Mike Schrag:

you can if you want, but i'll be fixing them anyway, including  
after Apr 30 ...


ms

On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

Can we pay you a couple of bucks to fix the 128 remaining Jiras  
for Wonder before April 30? :-)


Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will  
be my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a  
position at Apple. Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and  
Wonder will be part of my responsibilities, so I'm far from  
disappearing. I think iTMS has done a really good job  
demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with Entity  
Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work  
recently with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the  
value of the WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look  
forward to a lot of exciting things in the future.


As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They  
have been a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For  
years before I came on, Bill would tell me about this framework  
called WebObjects and how great it was. When I started at mDT, he  
got me going with WO with a bunch of books, WWDC videos, and  
helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also  
consistently made a substantial investment in the community,  
supporting every bit of development that I've done in WOLips,  
Wonder, WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my time here,  
and I applaud them for that.


For the things you guys may directly care about:

* WOLips - still working on it
* Wonder - still working on it
* Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
* WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple  
capacity


To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you  
can use my msch...@pobox.com email address.


ms
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Guido Neitzer
About time ... ;-)

See you soon!
Guido

On 21. Apr, 2010, at 09:33 , Mike Schrag wrote:

 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last 
 day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to 
 worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with 
 Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently 
 with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of the 
 WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting 
 things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been a 
 great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I came on, 
 Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how great it 
 was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of books, 
 WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also 
 consistently made a substantial investment in the community, supporting every 
 bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the build 
 servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Kieran Kelleher
You are right - No reason at all why only Mike should do it. What are your 
thoughts on how someone who wants to help can qualify for commit access?

Just asking :-)

-Kieran

On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:

 And for the most part, we do *not* keep other people from writing or applying 
 patches. There are ~40 committers for Wonder. There is no reason why only 
 Mike should do patches and stuff.
 
 Cheers, Anjo
 
 Am 21.04.2010 um 20:45 schrieb Mike Schrag:
 
 you can if you want, but i'll be fixing them anyway, including after Apr 30 
 ...
 
 ms
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
 Can we pay you a couple of bucks to fix the 128 remaining Jiras for Wonder 
 before April 30? :-)
 
 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last 
 day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to 
 worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with 
 Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently 
 with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of the 
 WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting 
 things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been 
 a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I came 
 on, Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how 
 great it was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch 
 of books, WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. 
 mDT has also consistently made a substantial investment in the community, 
 supporting every bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, 
 WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them 
 for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
 To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can use 
 my msch...@pobox.com email address.
 
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Mike Schrag
if new people end up stepping up to do this, keep in mind that rejecting 
patches is just as important as applying patches ... if you want to do it, you 
just need to be comfortable telling people to go back to the drawing board 
sometimes. we tend to get pretty good quality patches for the most part, but 
occasionally there's some crazy.

On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

 You are right - No reason at all why only Mike should do it. What are your 
 thoughts on how someone who wants to help can qualify for commit access?
 
 Just asking :-)
 
 -Kieran
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
 
 And for the most part, we do *not* keep other people from writing or 
 applying patches. There are ~40 committers for Wonder. There is no reason 
 why only Mike should do patches and stuff.
 
 Cheers, Anjo
 
 Am 21.04.2010 um 20:45 schrieb Mike Schrag:
 
 you can if you want, but i'll be fixing them anyway, including after Apr 30 
 ...
 
 ms
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
 Can we pay you a couple of bucks to fix the 128 remaining Jiras for Wonder 
 before April 30? :-)
 
 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my 
 last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. 
 Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, 
 with Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work 
 recently with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of 
 the WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of 
 exciting things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been 
 a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I 
 came on, Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and 
 how great it was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a 
 bunch of books, WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The 
 Path. mDT has also consistently made a substantial investment in the 
 community, supporting every bit of development that I've done in WOLips, 
 Wonder, WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my time here, and I 
 applaud them for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
 To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can use 
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Mike Schrag
and btw, i'm not the only one who does it -- anjo and chuck apply their fair 
share as well. though, i think chuck only applies patches to AjaxModalDialog, 
which is basically a full time job.

ms

On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

 You are right - No reason at all why only Mike should do it. What are your 
 thoughts on how someone who wants to help can qualify for commit access?
 
 Just asking :-)
 
 -Kieran
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
 
 And for the most part, we do *not* keep other people from writing or 
 applying patches. There are ~40 committers for Wonder. There is no reason 
 why only Mike should do patches and stuff.
 
 Cheers, Anjo
 
 Am 21.04.2010 um 20:45 schrieb Mike Schrag:
 
 you can if you want, but i'll be fixing them anyway, including after Apr 30 
 ...
 
 ms
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
 Can we pay you a couple of bucks to fix the 128 remaining Jiras for Wonder 
 before April 30? :-)
 
 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my 
 last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. 
 Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, 
 with Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work 
 recently with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of 
 the WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of 
 exciting things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been 
 a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I 
 came on, Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and 
 how great it was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a 
 bunch of books, WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The 
 Path. mDT has also consistently made a substantial investment in the 
 community, supporting every bit of development that I've done in WOLips, 
 Wonder, WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my time here, and I 
 applaud them for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Ramsey Gurley

When you asked that, the first thing that popped into my head was:
STOP!
He who would cross the Bridge of Death
Must answer me
These questions three
Ere the other side he see.

(^_^)

Ramsey

On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

You are right - No reason at all why only Mike should do it. What  
are your thoughts on how someone who wants to help can qualify for  
commit access?


Just asking :-)

-Kieran

On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:

And for the most part, we do *not* keep other people from writing  
or applying patches. There are ~40 committers for Wonder. There is  
no reason why only Mike should do patches and stuff.


Cheers, Anjo

Am 21.04.2010 um 20:45 schrieb Mike Schrag:

you can if you want, but i'll be fixing them anyway, including  
after Apr 30 ...


ms

On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

Can we pay you a couple of bucks to fix the 128 remaining Jiras  
for Wonder before April 30? :-)


Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will  
be my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a  
position at Apple. Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and  
Wonder will be part of my responsibilities, so I'm far from  
disappearing. I think iTMS has done a really good job  
demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with  
Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work  
recently with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the  
value of the WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look  
forward to a lot of exciting things in the future.


As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They  
have been a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For  
years before I came on, Bill would tell me about this framework  
called WebObjects and how great it was. When I started at mDT,  
he got me going with WO with a bunch of books, WWDC videos, and  
helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also  
consistently made a substantial investment in the community,  
supporting every bit of development that I've done in WOLips,  
Wonder, WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my time here,  
and I applaud them for that.


For the things you guys may directly care about:

* WOLips - still working on it
* Wonder - still working on it
* Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
* WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple  
capacity


To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but  
you can use my msch...@pobox.com email address.


ms
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Chuck Hill
And AjaxTabbedPanel  :-P  and a few of the crazy patches and WO 5.3  
breaking patches that I then get yelled at for.


Note to self: don't apply patches when sleepy


On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

and btw, i'm not the only one who does it -- anjo and chuck apply  
their fair share as well. though, i think chuck only applies patches  
to AjaxModalDialog, which is basically a full time job.


ms

On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

You are right - No reason at all why only Mike should do it. What  
are your thoughts on how someone who wants to help can qualify for  
commit access?


Just asking :-)

-Kieran

On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:

And for the most part, we do *not* keep other people from writing  
or applying patches. There are ~40 committers for Wonder. There is  
no reason why only Mike should do patches and stuff.


Cheers, Anjo

Am 21.04.2010 um 20:45 schrieb Mike Schrag:

you can if you want, but i'll be fixing them anyway, including  
after Apr 30 ...


ms

On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

Can we pay you a couple of bucks to fix the 128 remaining Jiras  
for Wonder before April 30? :-)


Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will  
be my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a  
position at Apple. Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips  
and Wonder will be part of my responsibilities, so I'm far from  
disappearing. I think iTMS has done a really good job  
demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with  
Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of  
work recently with ERModernLook. The folks over there  
appreciate the value of the WebObjects and Wonder communities,  
and I look forward to a lot of exciting things in the future.


As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They  
have been a great company to work for over the past 5 years.  
For years before I came on, Bill would tell me about this  
framework called WebObjects and how great it was. When I  
started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of books,  
WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path.  
mDT has also consistently made a substantial investment in the  
community, supporting every bit of development that I've done  
in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my  
time here, and I applaud them for that.


For the things you guys may directly care about:

* WOLips - still working on it
* Wonder - still working on it
* Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
* WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple  
capacity


To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but  
you can use my msch...@pobox.com email address.


ms
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Ramsey Gurley

Oh, and how rude of me... Congrats Mike! (^_^)

Ramsey

On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Ramsey Gurley wrote:


When you asked that, the first thing that popped into my head was:
STOP!
He who would cross the Bridge of Death
Must answer me
These questions three
Ere the other side he see.

(^_^)

Ramsey

On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

You are right - No reason at all why only Mike should do it. What  
are your thoughts on how someone who wants to help can qualify for  
commit access?


Just asking :-)

-Kieran

On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:

And for the most part, we do *not* keep other people from writing  
or applying patches. There are ~40 committers for Wonder. There is  
no reason why only Mike should do patches and stuff.


Cheers, Anjo

Am 21.04.2010 um 20:45 schrieb Mike Schrag:

you can if you want, but i'll be fixing them anyway, including  
after Apr 30 ...


ms

On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

Can we pay you a couple of bucks to fix the 128 remaining Jiras  
for Wonder before April 30? :-)


Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will  
be my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a  
position at Apple. Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips  
and Wonder will be part of my responsibilities, so I'm far from  
disappearing. I think iTMS has done a really good job  
demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with  
Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of  
work recently with ERModernLook. The folks over there  
appreciate the value of the WebObjects and Wonder communities,  
and I look forward to a lot of exciting things in the future.


As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They  
have been a great company to work for over the past 5 years.  
For years before I came on, Bill would tell me about this  
framework called WebObjects and how great it was. When I  
started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of books,  
WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path.  
mDT has also consistently made a substantial investment in the  
community, supporting every bit of development that I've done  
in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my  
time here, and I applaud them for that.


For the things you guys may directly care about:

* WOLips - still working on it
* Wonder - still working on it
* Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
* WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple  
capacity


To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but  
you can use my msch...@pobox.com email address.


ms
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Mike Schrag
thanks everybody :)

ms

On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Ramsey Gurley wrote:

 Oh, and how rude of me... Congrats Mike! (^_^)
 
 Ramsey
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Ramsey Gurley wrote:
 
 When you asked that, the first thing that popped into my head was:
 STOP!
 He who would cross the Bridge of Death
 Must answer me
 These questions three
 Ere the other side he see.
 
 (^_^)
 
 Ramsey
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
 
 You are right - No reason at all why only Mike should do it. What are your 
 thoughts on how someone who wants to help can qualify for commit access?
 
 Just asking :-)
 
 -Kieran
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
 
 And for the most part, we do *not* keep other people from writing or 
 applying patches. There are ~40 committers for Wonder. There is no reason 
 why only Mike should do patches and stuff.
 
 Cheers, Anjo
 
 Am 21.04.2010 um 20:45 schrieb Mike Schrag:
 
 you can if you want, but i'll be fixing them anyway, including after Apr 
 30 ...
 
 ms
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
 Can we pay you a couple of bucks to fix the 128 remaining Jiras for 
 Wonder before April 30? :-)
 
 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my 
 last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at 
 Apple. Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be 
 part of my responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS 
 has done a really good job demonstrating that they're committed to 
 contributing, with Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial 
 amount of work recently with ERModernLook. The folks over there 
 appreciate the value of the WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I 
 look forward to a lot of exciting things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have 
 been a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years 
 before I came on, Bill would tell me about this framework called 
 WebObjects and how great it was. When I started at mDT, he got me going 
 with WO with a bunch of books, WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and 
 they set me on The Path. mDT has also consistently made a substantial 
 investment in the community, supporting every bit of development that 
 I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the build servers throughout 
 my time here, and I applaud them for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Alan Ward

Welcome aboard the mothership.

Alan

On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

 thanks everybody :)
 
 ms
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Ramsey Gurley wrote:
 
 Oh, and how rude of me... Congrats Mike! (^_^)
 
 Ramsey
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Ramsey Gurley wrote:
 
 When you asked that, the first thing that popped into my head was:
 STOP!
 He who would cross the Bridge of Death
 Must answer me
 These questions three
 Ere the other side he see.
 
 (^_^)
 
 Ramsey
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
 
 You are right - No reason at all why only Mike should do it. What are your 
 thoughts on how someone who wants to help can qualify for commit access?
 
 Just asking :-)
 
 -Kieran
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
 
 And for the most part, we do *not* keep other people from writing or 
 applying patches. There are ~40 committers for Wonder. There is no reason 
 why only Mike should do patches and stuff.
 
 Cheers, Anjo
 
 Am 21.04.2010 um 20:45 schrieb Mike Schrag:
 
 you can if you want, but i'll be fixing them anyway, including after Apr 
 30 ...
 
 ms
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
 Can we pay you a couple of bucks to fix the 128 remaining Jiras for 
 Wonder before April 30? :-)
 
 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my 
 last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at 
 Apple. Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be 
 part of my responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think 
 iTMS has done a really good job demonstrating that they're committed 
 to contributing, with Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a 
 substantial amount of work recently with ERModernLook. The folks over 
 there appreciate the value of the WebObjects and Wonder communities, 
 and I look forward to a lot of exciting things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have 
 been a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years 
 before I came on, Bill would tell me about this framework called 
 WebObjects and how great it was. When I started at mDT, he got me 
 going with WO with a bunch of books, WWDC videos, and helpful 
 guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also consistently made 
 a substantial investment in the community, supporting every bit of 
 development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the build 
 servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
 To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can 
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Mike Schrag
i was questioned by a confused mailing list member when i referred to someone 
named chuck -- of course i meant chunk. apologies for the typo.

ms

On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

 and btw, i'm not the only one who does it -- anjo and chuck apply their fair 
 share as well. though, i think chuck only applies patches to AjaxModalDialog, 
 which is basically a full time job.
 
 ms
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
 
 You are right - No reason at all why only Mike should do it. What are your 
 thoughts on how someone who wants to help can qualify for commit access?
 
 Just asking :-)
 
 -Kieran
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
 
 And for the most part, we do *not* keep other people from writing or 
 applying patches. There are ~40 committers for Wonder. There is no reason 
 why only Mike should do patches and stuff.
 
 Cheers, Anjo
 
 Am 21.04.2010 um 20:45 schrieb Mike Schrag:
 
 you can if you want, but i'll be fixing them anyway, including after Apr 
 30 ...
 
 ms
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
 Can we pay you a couple of bucks to fix the 128 remaining Jiras for 
 Wonder before April 30? :-)
 
 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my 
 last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. 
 Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, 
 with Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work 
 recently with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of 
 the WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of 
 exciting things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have 
 been a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before 
 I came on, Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and 
 how great it was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a 
 bunch of books, WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on 
 The Path. mDT has also consistently made a substantial investment in the 
 community, supporting every bit of development that I've done in WOLips, 
 Wonder, WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my time here, and I 
 applaud them for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Chuck Hill

Was that Bob Pascal?


On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

i was questioned by a confused mailing list member when i referred  
to someone named chuck -- of course i meant chunk. apologies for  
the typo.


ms

On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

and btw, i'm not the only one who does it -- anjo and chuck apply  
their fair share as well. though, i think chuck only applies  
patches to AjaxModalDialog, which is basically a full time job.


ms

On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

You are right - No reason at all why only Mike should do it. What  
are your thoughts on how someone who wants to help can qualify for  
commit access?


Just asking :-)

-Kieran

On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:

And for the most part, we do *not* keep other people from writing  
or applying patches. There are ~40 committers for Wonder. There  
is no reason why only Mike should do patches and stuff.


Cheers, Anjo

Am 21.04.2010 um 20:45 schrieb Mike Schrag:

you can if you want, but i'll be fixing them anyway, including  
after Apr 30 ...


ms

On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

Can we pay you a couple of bucks to fix the 128 remaining Jiras  
for Wonder before April 30? :-)


Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30  
will be my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted  
a position at Apple. Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips  
and Wonder will be part of my responsibilities, so I'm far  
from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a really good job  
demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with  
Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of  
work recently with ERModernLook. The folks over there  
appreciate the value of the WebObjects and Wonder communities,  
and I look forward to a lot of exciting things in the future.


As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms.  
They have been a great company to work for over the past 5  
years. For years before I came on, Bill would tell me about  
this framework called WebObjects and how great it was. When I  
started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of books,  
WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The  
Path. mDT has also consistently made a substantial investment  
in the community, supporting every bit of development that  
I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the build servers  
throughout my time here, and I applaud them for that.


For the things you guys may directly care about:

* WOLips - still working on it
* Wonder - still working on it
* Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
* WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple  
capacity


To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but  
you can use my msch...@pobox.com email address.


ms
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Lon Varscsak
It always comes back to Chunk doesn't it?

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Mike Schrag msch...@pobox.com wrote:

 i was questioned by a confused mailing list member when i referred to
 someone named chuck -- of course i meant chunk. apologies for the typo.

 ms

 On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

  and btw, i'm not the only one who does it -- anjo and chuck apply their
 fair share as well. though, i think chuck only applies patches to
 AjaxModalDialog, which is basically a full time job.
 
  ms
 
  On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
 
  You are right - No reason at all why only Mike should do it. What are
 your thoughts on how someone who wants to help can qualify for commit
 access?
 
  Just asking :-)
 
  -Kieran
 
  On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
 
  And for the most part, we do *not* keep other people from writing or
 applying patches. There are ~40 committers for Wonder. There is no reason
 why only Mike should do patches and stuff.
 
  Cheers, Anjo
 
  Am 21.04.2010 um 20:45 schrieb Mike Schrag:
 
  you can if you want, but i'll be fixing them anyway, including after
 Apr 30 ...
 
  ms
 
  On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
  Can we pay you a couple of bucks to fix the 128 remaining Jiras for
 Wonder before April 30? :-)
 
  Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be
 my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple.
 Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with
 Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently
 with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of the
 WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting
 things in the future.
 
  As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have
 been a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I
 came on, Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how
 great it was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of
 books, WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT
 has also consistently made a substantial investment in the community,
 supporting every bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder,
 WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them
 for that.
 
  For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
  * WOLips - still working on it
  * Wonder - still working on it
  * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
  * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
  To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you
 can use my msch...@pobox.com email address.
 
  ms
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Pascal Robert

http://www.screenjunkies.com/movienews/sarah-connor-vs-chunk


Was that Bob Pascal?


On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

i was questioned by a confused mailing list member when i referred  
to someone named chuck -- of course i meant chunk. apologies  
for the typo.


ms

On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

and btw, i'm not the only one who does it -- anjo and chuck apply  
their fair share as well. though, i think chuck only applies  
patches to AjaxModalDialog, which is basically a full time job.


ms

On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

You are right - No reason at all why only Mike should do it. What  
are your thoughts on how someone who wants to help can qualify  
for commit access?


Just asking :-)

-Kieran

On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:

And for the most part, we do *not* keep other people from  
writing or applying patches. There are ~40 committers for  
Wonder. There is no reason why only Mike should do patches and  
stuff.


Cheers, Anjo

Am 21.04.2010 um 20:45 schrieb Mike Schrag:

you can if you want, but i'll be fixing them anyway, including  
after Apr 30 ...


ms

On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

Can we pay you a couple of bucks to fix the 128 remaining  
Jiras for Wonder before April 30? :-)


Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30  
will be my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I  
accepted a position at Apple. Not to worry, though --  
supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my  
responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS  
has done a really good job demonstrating that they're  
committed to contributing, with Entity Modeler app,  
eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently with  
ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of  
the WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to  
a lot of exciting things in the future.


As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms.  
They have been a great company to work for over the past 5  
years. For years before I came on, Bill would tell me about  
this framework called WebObjects and how great it was. When I  
started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of  
books, WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on  
The Path. mDT has also consistently made a substantial  
investment in the community, supporting every bit of  
development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the  
build servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for  
that.


For the things you guys may directly care about:

* WOLips - still working on it
* Wonder - still working on it
* Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
* WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple  
capacity


To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but  
you can use my msch...@pobox.com email address.


ms
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Pascal Robert
Maybe people can put their patched frameworks somewhere so that people  
can try them before the patch is applied to HEAD? For example, people  
who use H2 could try the patch I did to support the LIMIT operator and  
they can report if it's working for them. Even if most don't have  
commit access, it doesn't stop people to try/review the patch.


Building examples and tests is another good way to review the patchs  
too :-)


if new people end up stepping up to do this, keep in mind that  
rejecting patches is just as important as applying patches ... if  
you want to do it, you just need to be comfortable telling people to  
go back to the drawing board sometimes. we tend to get pretty good  
quality patches for the most part, but occasionally there's some  
crazy.


On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

You are right - No reason at all why only Mike should do it. What  
are your thoughts on how someone who wants to help can qualify for  
commit access?


Just asking :-)

-Kieran

On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:

And for the most part, we do *not* keep other people from writing  
or applying patches. There are ~40 committers for Wonder. There is  
no reason why only Mike should do patches and stuff.


Cheers, Anjo

Am 21.04.2010 um 20:45 schrieb Mike Schrag:

you can if you want, but i'll be fixing them anyway, including  
after Apr 30 ...


ms

On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

Can we pay you a couple of bucks to fix the 128 remaining Jiras  
for Wonder before April 30? :-)


Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will  
be my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a  
position at Apple. Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips  
and Wonder will be part of my responsibilities, so I'm far from  
disappearing. I think iTMS has done a really good job  
demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with  
Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of  
work recently with ERModernLook. The folks over there  
appreciate the value of the WebObjects and Wonder communities,  
and I look forward to a lot of exciting things in the future.


As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They  
have been a great company to work for over the past 5 years.  
For years before I came on, Bill would tell me about this  
framework called WebObjects and how great it was. When I  
started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of books,  
WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path.  
mDT has also consistently made a substantial investment in the  
community, supporting every bit of development that I've done  
in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my  
time here, and I applaud them for that.


For the things you guys may directly care about:

* WOLips - still working on it
* Wonder - still working on it
* Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
* WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple  
capacity


To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but  
you can use my msch...@pobox.com email address.


ms
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Re: Submit form and pop up a AjaxModalDialog confirming submission

2010-04-21 Thread Chuck Hill


On Apr 21, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Benjamin Chew wrote:


How do you tie a form submission to an AjaxModalDialog?

I'm trying to submit a form, process the values with the method  
purchase and pop up the result (added to cart or error). Right now  
I have this and it doesn't work:


wo:form
  wo:FocusTextField id = purchasePart size = 20 value =  
$purchasePartNumber focus = true /
  wo:textfield id = purchaseQty size = 20 value =  
$purchaseQty numberformat = 0 /
  wo:AjaxModalDialogOpener dialogId =  
addToCartModalDialogwo:submitButton action =  
$purchasePurchase/wo:submitButton/wo:AjaxModalDialogOpener

/wo:form



You want to use an AjaxSubmitButton not the AjaxModalDialogOpener.

Replace

wo:AjaxModalDialogOpener dialogId =  
addToCartModalDialogwo:submitButton action = $purchasePurchase/ 
wo:submitButton/wo:AjaxModalDialogOpener


With
wo:ajaxSubmitButton action = $purchasePurchase/ 
wo:ajaxSubmitButton 


Then in the purchase method:


public void purchase() {

// Your code here!

AjaxModalDialog.open(context(), addToCartModalDialog);
}


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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Chuck Hill

Sure is getting lonely here, outside of The Mother Ship.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo

Well, that is the end of an era.  I am sure that Bill and everyone at  
mDimension will sorely miss you.  My thanks to Bill  Co for all the  
past and future support of WebObjects (and Mike).  It has been really  
great and it is good to know that they will remain active in  
WebObjects (albeit at perhaps a slightly less frantic pace).


And congratulations to Apple for sucking Mike The Unstoppable Code  
Machine Schrag into it's black hole vortex of WO developers.  Did I  
mention it is getting lonely out here?  I am sure good things will  
come of this.  I hope we still see you on the lists now and then.


Looking forward to seeing you again at WWDC / WOWODC.


Chuck



On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be  
my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at  
Apple. Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be  
part of my responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think  
iTMS has done a really good job demonstrating that they're committed  
to contributing, with Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a  
substantial amount of work recently with ERModernLook. The folks  
over there appreciate the value of the WebObjects and Wonder  
communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting things in the  
future.


As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have  
been a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years  
before I came on, Bill would tell me about this framework called  
WebObjects and how great it was. When I started at mDT, he got me  
going with WO with a bunch of books, WWDC videos, and helpful  
guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also consistently  
made a substantial investment in the community, supporting every bit  
of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the  
build servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for that.


For the things you guys may directly care about:

* WOLips - still working on it
* Wonder - still working on it
* Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
* WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity

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ms
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Re: Instances Stopped Starting

2010-04-21 Thread Chuck Hill
Copy away the config file (/Library/WebObjects/Configuration/ 
SiteConfig.xml) on that machine before doing a Sync Hosts and then  
diff the updated file.  Are they different?


Also double check that wotaskd is running:

sudo lsof -i tcp:1085

And that it can be reached:

http://your.machine.here:1085


Chuck


On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:33 AM, Jeffrey Simpson wrote:

Thanks for the reply.  I have not figured it out yet.  I have made  
sure none of our other machines are running WOMonitor and none were.



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Fax: 240.235.2174

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responsibilities and opportunities in a changing, interdependent  
world. simp...@yfu.orgon Apr 19, 2010, at 5:09 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:



Did you get anywhere on this?


On Apr 16, 2010, at 7:17 AM, Jeffrey Simpson wrote:


I have an application that we run instances on multiple boxes.
Recently they stopped starting on one of the boxes.  It is not a
case of them trying to start and dieing.  It looks like they are not
starting at all.  I have found that if I do Synchronize Host on
the box after I tell monitor to start them they then startup.


Have you checked the configuration written on that machine (/Library/
WebObjects/Configuration/SiteConfig.xml)?  Perhaps that is getting
overwritten / erased.  That can happen if JavaMonitor gets run on  
more

than one machine.  Synchronize Host would write a fresh copy so that
would explain why the instances start after that.



I do not know if it is connected but sometime I can not get the box
to reboot from the command prompt.


You can ssh into the box, but rebooting gets cancelled?  Is there a
GUI login that is canceling the restart?

Chuck



When that happens I have to do the equivalent of unplugging the box
to get it to reboot.  Does anyone have any ideas?  Below is some
info on the box:

2 Dual Core Intel Processors
8 Gb Ram
OSX 10.4.11

WebObjects 5.3.3


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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Lon Varscsak
Maybe Apple should just hire us all and be done with it. :P  We're a drop in
the bucket compared to all of their employees world wide.

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.netwrote:

 Sure is getting lonely here, outside of The Mother Ship.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo

 Well, that is the end of an era.  I am sure that Bill and everyone at
 mDimension will sorely miss you.  My thanks to Bill  Co for all the past
 and future support of WebObjects (and Mike).  It has been really great and
 it is good to know that they will remain active in WebObjects (albeit at
 perhaps a slightly less frantic pace).

 And congratulations to Apple for sucking Mike The Unstoppable Code
 Machine Schrag into it's black hole vortex of WO developers.  Did I mention
 it is getting lonely out here?  I am sure good things will come of this.  I
 hope we still see you on the lists now and then.

 Looking forward to seeing you again at WWDC / WOWODC.


 Chuck



 On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

  Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last
 day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to
 worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with
 Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently
 with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of the
 WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting
 things in the future.

 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been
 a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I came
 on, Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how great
 it was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of
 books, WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT
 has also consistently made a substantial investment in the community,
 supporting every bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder,
 WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them
 for that.

 For the things you guys may directly care about:

 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity

 To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can use
 my msch...@pobox.com email address.


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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Chuck Hill

Grumble.  He sure gets ornery when you call him Bob instead of Robert.

On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:31 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:


http://www.screenjunkies.com/movienews/sarah-connor-vs-chunk


Was that Bob Pascal?


On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

i was questioned by a confused mailing list member when i referred  
to someone named chuck -- of course i meant chunk. apologies  
for the typo.


ms

On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

and btw, i'm not the only one who does it -- anjo and chuck apply  
their fair share as well. though, i think chuck only applies  
patches to AjaxModalDialog, which is basically a full time job.


ms

On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

You are right - No reason at all why only Mike should do it.  
What are your thoughts on how someone who wants to help can  
qualify for commit access?


Just asking :-)

-Kieran

On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:

And for the most part, we do *not* keep other people from  
writing or applying patches. There are ~40 committers for  
Wonder. There is no reason why only Mike should do patches and  
stuff.


Cheers, Anjo

Am 21.04.2010 um 20:45 schrieb Mike Schrag:

you can if you want, but i'll be fixing them anyway, including  
after Apr 30 ...


ms

On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

Can we pay you a couple of bucks to fix the 128 remaining  
Jiras for Wonder before April 30? :-)


Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30  
will be my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I  
accepted a position at Apple. Not to worry, though --  
supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my  
responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS  
has done a really good job demonstrating that they're  
committed to contributing, with Entity Modeler app,  
eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently with  
ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of  
the WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to  
a lot of exciting things in the future.


As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms.  
They have been a great company to work for over the past 5  
years. For years before I came on, Bill would tell me about  
this framework called WebObjects and how great it was. When  
I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of  
books, WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on  
The Path. mDT has also consistently made a substantial  
investment in the community, supporting every bit of  
development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and  
the build servers throughout my time here, and I applaud  
them for that.


For the things you guys may directly care about:

* WOLips - still working on it
* Wonder - still working on it
* Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
* WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple  
capacity


To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same,  
but you can use my msch...@pobox.com email address.


ms
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Chuck Hill
If you know WO and want to work at Apple, just ask them.  I know they  
don't have enough skilled WO developers.  I am not sure they could  
ever have enough.



Chuck

On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:

Maybe Apple should just hire us all and be done with it. :P  We're a  
drop in the bucket compared to all of their employees world wide.


On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global- 
village.net wrote:

Sure is getting lonely here, outside of The Mother Ship.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo

Well, that is the end of an era.  I am sure that Bill and everyone  
at mDimension will sorely miss you.  My thanks to Bill  Co for all  
the past and future support of WebObjects (and Mike).  It has been  
really great and it is good to know that they will remain active in  
WebObjects (albeit at perhaps a slightly less frantic pace).


And congratulations to Apple for sucking Mike The Unstoppable Code  
Machine Schrag into it's black hole vortex of WO developers.  Did I  
mention it is getting lonely out here?  I am sure good things will  
come of this.  I hope we still see you on the lists now and then.


Looking forward to seeing you again at WWDC / WOWODC.


Chuck



On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be  
my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at  
Apple. Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be  
part of my responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think  
iTMS has done a really good job demonstrating that they're committed  
to contributing, with Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a  
substantial amount of work recently with ERModernLook. The folks  
over there appreciate the value of the WebObjects and Wonder  
communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting things in the  
future.


As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have  
been a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years  
before I came on, Bill would tell me about this framework called  
WebObjects and how great it was. When I started at mDT, he got me  
going with WO with a bunch of books, WWDC videos, and helpful  
guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also consistently  
made a substantial investment in the community, supporting every bit  
of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the  
build servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for that.


For the things you guys may directly care about:

* WOLips - still working on it
* Wonder - still working on it
* Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
* WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity

To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you  
can use my msch...@pobox.com email address.



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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Lachlan Deck
I was intending to look at the patch asap (e.g., weekend) seeing as I added the 
h2 plugin and I've got a whole bunch of unit tests utilising migrations + h2.
I assume you've included any info necessary for testing the patch?


But congrats Mike and thanks for all your excellent work over the years!

Naturally you'll have a thousand page NDA to sign and will no longer be able to 
publicly hassle on the community's behalf :) for such things as the imminent 
release of the 'g' (i.e., giandura) or WO5.4.3.1 or 5.6 ;-) but I hope your 
time on the inside is personally rewarding.


In other news, while announcements are in order: I started a new job a couple 
of weeks ago where spring+hibernate is in play. So my contributions will mostly 
likely slow down somewhat, not that they weren't slow already ;) Oh, and my 
wife and I had a little baby boy 4 weeks ago. Lots of fun. A little bundle of 
joy!

On 22/04/2010, at 9:41 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:

 Maybe people can put their patched frameworks somewhere so that people can 
 try them before the patch is applied to HEAD? For example, people who use H2 
 could try the patch I did to support the LIMIT operator and they can report 
 if it's working for them. Even if most don't have commit access, it doesn't 
 stop people to try/review the patch.
 
 Building examples and tests is another good way to review the patchs too :-)

with regards,
--

Lachlan Deck



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Re: Submit form and pop up a AjaxModalDialog confirming submission

2010-04-21 Thread Farrukh Ijaz
Try this, I use AjaxSubmitButton instead of AjaxModalDialogOpener using 
javascript function. If your component has an AjaxModalDialog component with 
some id sampleDialog, you'll have a javascript function at runtime as 
openAMD_SampleDialog() to open the dialog.

 wo:form name=PurchaseForm multipleSubmit = $true
   wo:FocusTextField id = purchasePart size = 20 value = 
 $purchasePartNumber focus = true /
   wo:textfield id = purchaseQty size = 20 value = $purchaseQty 
 numberformat = 0 /
   wo:AjaxSubmitButton value = Purchase action = $purchase formName = 
 EditForm onComplete = openAMD_AddToCartModalDialog()/
 /wo:form


Farrukh

On 2010-04-21, at 8:56 PM, Benjamin Chew wrote:

 How do you tie a form submission to an AjaxModalDialog?
 
 I'm trying to submit a form, process the values with the method purchase 
 and pop up the result (added to cart or error). Right now I have this and it 
 doesn't work: 
 
 wo:form
   wo:FocusTextField id = purchasePart size = 20 value = 
 $purchasePartNumber focus = true /
   wo:textfield id = purchaseQty size = 20 value = $purchaseQty 
 numberformat = 0 /
   wo:AjaxModalDialogOpener dialogId = 
 addToCartModalDialogwo:submitButton action = 
 $purchasePurchase/wo:submitButton/wo:AjaxModalDialogOpener
 /wo:form
 
 Thanks,
 Ben
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Johnny Miller
Congratulations to both you and Apple.  And thank you Apple for hiring someone 
to support WOLips and WOnder.

best,

Johnny

p.s. now that you are on the inside please put the next version of WO on a CD 
and drop it in a bar.
p.p.s don't put your name on the CD.



On Apr 21, 2010, at 6:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last 
 day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to 
 worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with 
 Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently 
 with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of the 
 WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting 
 things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been a 
 great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I came on, 
 Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how great it 
 was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of books, 
 WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also 
 consistently made a substantial investment in the community, supporting every 
 bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the build 
 servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
 To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can use my 
 msch...@pobox.com email address.
 
 ms
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Cheong Hee
Congratulations! Late to congrat due to time lapse. Nevertherless, take this 
opportunity to thank mDT and yourself for prompt and interesting responses. 
If I could not remember the rest, I will remember the one line Da Vinci Code 
you sent to repackaging the java files :)  That helps a lot indeed.
Is it a natural path to take that a great contributor will end up in 
mothership?  Not only Chuck will be getting lonely (yes, you did mention it 
twice.. ), many will do too.  What more working in a WOlessland like here. 
Good news is I've just succeeded in getting a government funding grant 
yesterday for WO project, so it is a little booster.


Cheers to Mike and the community members.  Great thanks.

Cheong Hee

- Original Message - 
From: Mike Schrag msch...@pobox.com

To: WO Dev Group webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:33 AM
Subject: announcement


Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last 
day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to 
worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with 
Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently 
with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of the 
WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting 
things in the future.


As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been a 
great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I came on, 
Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how great it 
was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of books, 
WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also 
consistently made a substantial investment in the community, supporting 
every bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the 
build servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for that.


For the things you guys may directly care about:

* WOLips - still working on it
* Wonder - still working on it
* Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
* WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity

To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can use my 
msch...@pobox.com email address.


ms
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Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Cheong Hee

Hi Lachlan

In other news, while announcements are in order: I started a new job a 
couple of weeks ago where spring+hibernate is in play. So my contributions 
will mostly likely slow down somewhat, not that they weren't slow already 
;) Oh, and my wife and I had a little baby boy 4 weeks ago. Lots of fun. A 
little bundle of joy!
Sorry , did i get it right that you are droping WO and leaving the community 
soon?   Congratulations to you and new arrival.  Welcome to fatherhood and 
certainly life has different joys and meaning, if i am qualified to say as a 
father of 4 :).  Keep it up.


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