[fedora-websites] Issue #756: Idea for consideration: Redirect front page of fedoraproject.org to new overview docs

2017-11-21 Thread bex

bex added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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> @jibecfed That's definitely worth taking into consideration. I think we could 
> do multi-language more quickly for just this one page rather than waiting for 
> a full docs solution, especially if we go with  @duffy's suggestion of 
> re-publishing the content in a different format for the front page.

Not sure I followed @duffy's solution here.  Can someone rephrase it?

I am -1 for hacked multi-language as we are pretty close.  I am cool with a 
deadline though.

> Right now, we have asciibinder to translate the asciidoc file into html for 
> the docs site. But we could just run asciidoctor directly (as asciidoctor -s 
> to create "bare" HTML which could be inserted into whatever workflow works 
> for the websites team.


> @bex , does that seem like a reasonable idea? We could simply add a 
> "translations" subdirectory to council-docs/project/, and then different 
> language subdirectories under there? Or we could even have a separate repo 
> for translated versions of this one document.
> Then, when we get the full docs translation workflow up and going, we could 
> regularize this with that.
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[fedora-websites] Issue #756: Idea for consideration: Redirect front page of fedoraproject.org to new overview docs

2017-11-13 Thread Jean-Baptiste Holcroft

jibecfed added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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I think we are close to have something that works fine for 
internationalization. The main question is about how to handle  _topic_map.yml 
. See https://pad.lqdn.fr/p/fedora-docs-internationalization-jibecfed
Is there any rush not to wait for a few days/weeks?
We already have passed the moment where we have a working documentation system, 
for which we had an agreement to focus on English only. By principle, I don't 
feel comfortable about removing the few localized content we have.
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[fedora-websites] Issue #756: Idea for consideration: Redirect front page of fedoraproject.org to new overview docs

2017-11-12 Thread Matthew Miller

mattdm added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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@jibecfed That's definitely worth taking into consideration. I think we could 
do multi-language more quickly for just this one page rather than waiting for a 
full docs solution, especially if we go with @duffy's suggestion of 
re-publishing the content in a different format for the front page.

Right now, we have asciibinder to translate the asciidoc file into html for the 
docs site. But we could just run asciidoctor directly (as `asciidoctor -s` to 
create "bare" HTML which could be inserted into whatever workflow works for the 
websites team.

@bex , does that seem like a reasonable idea? We could simply add a 
"translations" subdirectory to `council-docs/project/`, and then different 
language subdirectories under there? Or we could even have a separate repo for 
translated versions of this one document.

_Then_, when we get the full docs translation workflow up and going, we could 
regularize this with that.
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[fedora-websites] Issue #756: Idea for consideration: Redirect front page of fedoraproject.org to new overview docs

2017-11-12 Thread Jean-Baptiste Holcroft

jibecfed added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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Can you please wait to have multi-language support for documentation?
While we can debate the getfedora landing is or isn't the best place to arrive 
(I have no idea), at least non English speaker can understand something.
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[fedora-websites] Issue #756: Idea for consideration: Redirect front page of fedoraproject.org to new overview docs

2017-11-01 Thread Matthew Miller

mattdm added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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> I see docs.fp.o still a website with a lot of work in progress (links 
> changed, CSS has to be fixed, the website is only partially mobile-friendly, 
> no responsive tags for images, etc)

There's definitely room for improvement.

> Why should we redirect to a sort of overview with just Council links? Seems 
> to me like redirecting to a smaller wiki page. FInally, are users who are 
> looking for Fedora, searching informations about the Council?

I'm not sure I understand. I'm suggesting redirecting to 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/fedora-project/project/fedora-overview.html. The 
Council docs are findable on the left, but under a different section, starting 
with https://docs.fedoraproject.org/fedora-project/council/charter.html

> Btw, can anyone tell me why the images on the docs pages have s long 
> paths?

For whatever reason, asciibinder turns images into inline data. We'd have to 
ask the asciibinder authors about that.

> @duffy no, it seems it is using :
> 
>  href="https://maxcdn.bootstrapcdn.com/bootstrap/3.3.5/css/bootstrap.min.css;>
>  href="https://maxcdn.bootstrapcdn.com/bootstrap/3.3.5/css/bootstrap-theme.min.css;>

This comes from upstream asciibinder. I tried dropping in the Fedora bootstrap 
fork, but it caused a lot of problems (images misaligned, the whole thing being 
undifferentiated gray, etc.). @bex is talking to @ryanlerch about possibly 
using Fedora's bootstrap instead of the upstream one, but there would need to 
be some tweaks.
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[fedora-websites] Issue #756: Idea for consideration: Redirect front page of fedoraproject.org to new overview docs

2017-11-01 Thread Robert Mayr

robyduck added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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I have no strong opinion where fedoraproject.org should redirect to, but I 
think people who went to fedoraproject.org were not looking for docs. The 
docs.fp.o will confuse people more than getting redirected to getfedora.org. 
Also:

* I see docs.fp.o still a website with a lot of work in progress (links 
changed, CSS has to be fixed, the website is only partially mobile-friendly, no 
responsive tags for images, etc)
*  Why should we redirect to a sort of overview with just Council links? Seems 
to me like redirecting to a smaller wiki page. FInally, are users who are 
looking for Fedora, searching informations about the Council?

Btw, can anyone tell me why the images on the docs pages have s long 
paths?
@duffy no, it seems it is using :

`
  https://maxcdn.bootstrapcdn.com/bootstrap/3.3.5/css/bootstrap.min.css;>
  https://maxcdn.bootstrapcdn.com/bootstrap/3.3.5/css/bootstrap-theme.min.css;>`
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[fedora-websites] Issue #756: Idea for consideration: Redirect front page of fedoraproject.org to new overview docs

2017-11-01 Thread Máirín Duffy

duffy added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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What is generating docs.fedoraproject.org? It's not using Fedora bootstrap? Who 
created this theme?
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[fedora-websites] Issue #756: Idea for consideration: Redirect front page of fedoraproject.org to new overview docs

2017-11-01 Thread Matthew Miller

mattdm added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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We can adjust the CSS, but that's part of a bigger thing because it would 
affect all of https://docs.fedoraproject.org/. I don't think we want to do 
per-document CSS.

But, we can adjust the _logo_ which is part of the document.
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[fedora-websites] Issue #756: Idea for consideration: Redirect front page of fedoraproject.org to new overview docs

2017-11-01 Thread Máirín Duffy

duffy added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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@mattdm that ticket says "though note that improvement to the overall look of 
the docs site (including styles, fonts, etc.) are out of scope and a separate 
design project." I don't understand. Does that mean the CSS can't be fixed?
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[fedora-websites] Issue #756: Idea for consideration: Redirect front page of fedoraproject.org to new overview docs

2017-11-01 Thread Matthew Miller

mattdm added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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>  @mattdm if that redirect was set up as-is I think we'll have a lot of 
> confusion about which is the 'real' fedora website, and if one is meant to 
> place the other.

I think we have that confusion already


> I suggest changing the title on the docs docs one to say something like 
> "Fedora Project Community" instead of just "Fedora" so it was clear what it 
> specifically is.

The HTML title, or the header, or something else? 

> The logo sizing on that page is out-of-proportion with the layout / text 
> size, is there a way to modify that?

Yes. See https://pagure.io/design/issue/552 

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[fedora-websites] Issue #756: Idea for consideration: Redirect front page of fedoraproject.org to new overview docs

2017-10-31 Thread Máirín Duffy

duffy added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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@mattdm if that redirect was set up as-is I think we'll have a lot of confusion 
about which is the 'real' fedora website, and if one is meant to place the 
other.

I suggest changing the title on the docs docs one to say something like "Fedora 
Project Community" instead of just "Fedora" so it was clear what it 
specifically is. 

The logo sizing on that page is out-of-proportion with the layout / text size, 
is there a way to modify that?
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[fedora-websites] Issue #756: Idea for consideration: Redirect front page of fedoraproject.org to new overview docs

2017-10-31 Thread Matthew Miller

mattdm added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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Update: docs are now live
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