RE: Another NPP question

2003-03-19 Thread Craig Moen
During our initial admit paperwork we are planning of having the patient
initial next to acknowledgement of receipt.  However, they also sign the end
of that document because they initial other items on that particular page

For existing patients, I don't see how intials by themselves would work

Just my opinion


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I have a line that states I acknowledge receipt of the Notice of Privacy
Practice. and a line to sign on our COA.  I'm going to piggyback a question
with your question, are initials acceptable for acknowledgment?

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Another NPP question.

We are drafting our aknowledgement of receipt form for existing patients for
distribution.  In 164.520 it describes acknowledgement of receipt  I am
not finding specific language that requires they sign that they have Read
and Understand  It would then seem that they would sign that we have
delivered the NPP.  Is anyone reading that any differently??

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RE: Another NPP question

2003-03-19 Thread Craig Moen



Doug 
and Leslie

As I 
was looking into the Rule itself for something different I stumbled across this 
under 164.522 pg 53240
"For 
example, The final rule does not require an individuals signature on the 
notice. Instead, a covered healthcare provider is permitted, for example 
to have the individual's sign a separate sheet or list, or to simply initial a 
cover sheet of the notice to be retained by the provider"

Finally somwhere, where my(our) thoughts were inline with the 
rule



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  Craig,
  I agree with your position. I think that a signed 
  document needs at least one full signature. Having that full signature 
  and date, I would think that initials other places should be OK (they work for 
  the money people).
  
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During our initial admit paperwork we are planning of having 
the patientinitial next to acknowledgement of receipt. However, 
they also sign the endof that document because they initial other items 
on that particular pageFor existing patients, I don't see how 
intials by themselves would workJust my 
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Harpe, Leslie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 
2003 7:58 AMTo: 'Craig Moen'; WEDI SNIP Privacy Workgroup 
ListSubject: RE: Another NPP questionI have a line that 
states "I acknowledge receipt of the Notice of PrivacyPractice." and a 
line to sign on our COA. I'm going to piggyback a questionwith 
your question, are initials acceptable for 
acknowledgment?-Original Message-From: Craig Moen 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 6:00 
PMTo: WEDI SNIP Privacy Workgroup ListSubject: Another NPP 
questionAnother NPP question.We are drafting our 
aknowledgement of receipt form for existing patients 
fordistribution. In 164.520 it describes "acknowledgement of 
receipt" I amnot finding specific language that requires they sign 
that they have "Readand Understand" It would then seem that they 
would sign that we havedelivered the NPP. Is anyone reading that 
any differently??Craig MoenConfidential 
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Requests to amend

2003-03-19 Thread JillGWlaw

According to the regs, if the patient has not submitted a written statement of disagreement when a covered entity denies their request for an amendment, the covered entity must include the patient's request for an amendment and its denial of it with any subsequent disclosure of the PHI only if the individual has requested such action.

I am having a little trouble with the way this is worded -- if the patient does not submit a written statement of disagreement, does the covered entity have the option to send out the request for an amendment and their denial of it with future disclosures, or if may they only do that when the patient submits a written statement of disagreement?

Thanks again!
Jill Rubin
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RE: Another NPP question

2003-03-19 Thread Leslie C Bender









Ive also seen small practice groups
(in lieu of sign in sheets) and pharmacies developing an acknowledgment
book approach with the printed language of the acknowledgment at the top
of each page with patients signing the book and dating their signature and it
is my understanding that this is okay based on comments about scalability
from HHS.





Leslie C. Bender



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Timonium, Maryland 21093

Phone: 410-453-4125

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-Original Message-
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9:46 AM
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Subject: RE: Another NPP question





Doug and Leslie











As I was looking into the
Rule itself for something different I stumbled across this under 164.522
pg 53240





For example, The
final rule does not require an individuals signature on the notice. Instead,
a covered healthcare provider is permitted, for example to have the
individual's sign a separate sheet or list, or to simply initial a cover sheet
of the notice to be retained by the provider











Finally somwhere, where
my(our) thoughts were inline with the rule





















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Craig,





I agree with your position. I think that a
signed document needs at least one full signature. Having that full
signature and date, I would think that initials other places should be OK (they
work for the money people).











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Computer System Engineer
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NPP question









During our initial admit paperwork we are planning of
having the patient
initial next to acknowledgement of receipt. However, they also sign the
end
of that document because they initial other items on that particular page

For existing patients, I don't see how intials by themselves would work

Just my opinion


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Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 7:58 AM
To: 'Craig Moen'; WEDI SNIP Privacy Workgroup List
Subject: RE: Another NPP question


I have a line that states I acknowledge receipt of the Notice of Privacy
Practice. and a line to sign on our COA. I'm going to piggyback a
question
with your question, are initials acceptable for acknowledgment?

-Original Message-
From: Craig Moen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 6:00 PM
To: WEDI SNIP Privacy Workgroup List
Subject: Another NPP question


Another NPP question.

We are drafting our aknowledgement of receipt form for existing patients for
distribution. In 

Accounting of Disclosures

2003-03-19 Thread Patricia Conroe
I know this has been asked repeadetly, but now that I'm training our workforce I'm 
starting to get more detailed questions on what needs to be logged.  As the HIPAA rule 
states it they say what does not have to be logged, but they don't say what does.  So, 
by the process of elimination I'm left to believe that everything that needs to be 
logged are those items listed under 164.512 a-l (required by law to workers comp).  Is 
this an accurate assumption of what's left to track?  We are required to report a lot 
of things by law so all of those need to be logged (ATLAS abstracting, PHC4 data, 
infectious diseases, CORE calls, abuse calls, etc, etc?)  Thanks!


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RE: Accounting of Disclosures

2003-03-19 Thread Craig Moen
A very good question that I am also interested in finding others opinions

At this point we are going to log non-routine requests (such as someone
that was not originally identified and is now requesting info, even if the
family agrees/consents)  Also we are logging errors such as missent faxes
and e-mails.  Other ideas and comments are welcome

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I know this has been asked repeadetly, but now that I'm training our
workforce I'm starting to get more detailed questions on what needs to be
logged.  As the HIPAA rule states it they say what does not have to be
logged, but they don't say what does.  So, by the process of elimination I'm
left to believe that everything that needs to be logged are those items
listed under 164.512 a-l (required by law to workers comp).  Is this an
accurate assumption of what's left to track?  We are required to report a
lot of things by law so all of those need to be logged (ATLAS abstracting,
PHC4 data, infectious diseases, CORE calls, abuse calls, etc, etc?)  Thanks!


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Re: Accounting of Disclosures

2003-03-19 Thread JillGWlaw
I understood that if you were disclosing PHI to worker's comp carriers for payment purposes, you would not have to include it in the accoutning of disclosures.

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authorizations

2003-03-19 Thread Kelli Caiafa
Am I clear in my understanding that for a physician to release phi in situations such as employment physicals, school nurse (return to school), immunization records for schools or camp physicals that he/she would need a signed authorization? Can anyone direct me to some written guidance on this? Thanks.Kelli Caiafa, MHS, NHA
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RE: Accounting of Disclosures

2003-03-19 Thread Dee Warrington



Jill -- 
Correct. You do not have to account for workers compensation 
disclosures.


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Billing Services with Contractors

2003-03-19 Thread Daniel E. McDonald








I
wanted to get input regarding Billing Services that use contractors to perform
certain services. My understanding is the Billing Service is considered a
Business Associate and not a covered entity. If that is true, would the
contractors working for a billing service be Business Associates of a Business
Associate and would they sign a similair BA agreement as the billing service
did but between them and the billing service??

I
look forward to everyones intepretation as even our attorney is a bit
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Re: Billing Services with Contractors

2003-03-19 Thread Doug Webb



Daniel,
1) Billing Services are Business Associates of 
Providers. Because of what they do, if they work with standard 
transactions, they may also be considered a Covered Entity Clearinghouse 
(converting [highly] non-standard data to standard transactions, and vice 
versa).

2) An entity that performs services on your behalf that 
involve PHI is your BA, and there should be a BA contract between you and that 
entity. An entity that performs services on behalf of your provider 
customers is the BA of the provider, and technically there should be a BA 
contract between your customers and the contractor. I believe that if you 
have a BA contract with the contractor, that establishes a chain of trust that 
will meet the contract requirements. (check this one out -- my eyes glazed 
over).

The opinions expressed here are my own and not necessarily the opinion of 
LCMH.

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  To: WEDI SNIP Privacy Workgroup List 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 11:58 
  AM
  Subject: Billing Services with 
  Contractors
  
  
  I wanted to get input regarding 
  Billing Services that use contractors to perform certain services. My 
  understanding is the Billing Service is considered a Business Associate and 
  not a covered entity. If that is true, would the contractors working for 
  a billing service be Business Associates of a Business Associate and would 
  they sign a similair BA agreement as the billing service did but between them 
  and the billing service??
  I look forward to everyone’s 
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RE: Billing Services with Contractors

2003-03-19 Thread Brenda K. Burton

Leslie -

So if my billing company did not consider itself a clearinghouse (thus a CE); and we 
were only a BA, then anybody we subcontracted to would require us to have a BA as 
well, (e.g. 'second tier business associates')?  I have not seen/been told that 
before.  Please indicate where that is stated in the regs. I appreciate your input and 
education!

Thanks,
Brenda


 Daniel:
  
 Not all billing services are business associates only.  If your
 billing service performs any translations of standard to nonstandard
 data elements in connection with any of the standard transactions (e.g.,
 if you receive any print images of non standard itemized bills your
 provider clients have sent and key them into an 837 for re-billing or
 for billing to an insurer you now have discovered) your billing service
 may meet the HIPAA definition of a clearinghouse and thus you would be
 both a business associate and a covered entity.
  
 If you have any vendors with whom you use/exchange PHI on behalf of your
 provider clients, they would likely be second tier business associates
 and yes you would need to have them execute BA agreements with you at
 least as stringent as those you sign with your provider clients.  For
 example, if you forward accounts from patients residing in other states
 to billing companies in those states, you would need a BA agreement with
 the billing services to whom you forward the accounts.
  
 ACA International, a non profit trade association for, among others,
 billing and health care collection agencies has extensive educational
 materials and an upcoming program applying HIPAA to billing services and
 health care collection agencies.  They have some upcoming educational
 programs that may interest you and your counsel. 
  
 Hope this helps.  
  
 Leslie C. Bender
 ROI WebEd Company
  
 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel E. McDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:59 PM
 To: WEDI SNIP Privacy Workgroup List
 Subject: Billing Services with Contractors
  
 I wanted to get input regarding Billing Services that use contractors to
 perform certain services.  My understanding is the Billing Service is
 considered a Business Associate and not a covered entity.  If that is
 true, would the contractors working for a billing service be Business
 Associates of a Business Associate and would they sign a similair BA
 agreement as the billing service did but between them and the billing
 service??
 I look forward to everyone's intepretation as even our attorney is a bit
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RE: Billing Services with Contractors

2003-03-19 Thread Jason Brege



Daniel,

I 
believe that your Billing Service would most likely be a BA,but check to 
make sure you're not conducting standard transactions because that could make 
you a Covered Entity...but that's a whole other issue.

I'm disturbed that your attorney is confused on this 
issue. One of the required portions of a Business Associate 
Agreement is that the Business Associate must receive similar "satisfactory 
assurances" from their subcontractors that may work with the Covered Entity's 
PHI. This essentially mandates a contract closely resembling a Business 
Associate Agreement from the BA to their own BA (a grand-BA!). References 
for this are: 45 CFR 164.504(e)(2)(ii)(D) and the model business associate 
agreement from the Preamble to the Final Rule. 

Thanks,

Jason 
Brege
Clinton A. Harkins, P.C.

  -Original Message-From: Daniel E. McDonald 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 
  12:59 PMTo: WEDI SNIP Privacy Workgroup ListSubject: 
  Billing Services with Contractors
  
  I wanted to get input regarding 
  Billing Services that use contractors to perform certain services. My 
  understanding is the Billing Service is considered a Business Associate and 
  not a covered entity. If that is true, would the contractors working for 
  a billing service be Business Associates of a Business Associate and would 
  they sign a similair BA agreement as the billing service did but between them 
  and the billing service??
  I look forward to everyone's 
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RE: Billing Services with Contractors

2003-03-19 Thread Leslie C Bender
See 45 CFR Section 164.504(e)(2)(i)(D).  There is also language to this
effect in the OCR's Model BA document.

Leslie Bender


-Original Message-
From: Brenda K. Burton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 2:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Billing Services with Contractors


Leslie -

So if my billing company did not consider itself a clearinghouse (thus a
CE); and we were only a BA, then anybody we subcontracted to would
require us to have a BA as well, (e.g. 'second tier business
associates')?  I have not seen/been told that before.  Please indicate
where that is stated in the regs. I appreciate your input and education!

Thanks,
Brenda


 Daniel:
  
 Not all billing services are business associates only.  If your
 billing service performs any translations of standard to nonstandard
 data elements in connection with any of the standard transactions
(e.g.,
 if you receive any print images of non standard itemized bills your
 provider clients have sent and key them into an 837 for re-billing or
 for billing to an insurer you now have discovered) your billing
service
 may meet the HIPAA definition of a clearinghouse and thus you would
be
 both a business associate and a covered entity.
  
 If you have any vendors with whom you use/exchange PHI on behalf of
your
 provider clients, they would likely be second tier business associates
 and yes you would need to have them execute BA agreements with you at
 least as stringent as those you sign with your provider clients.  For
 example, if you forward accounts from patients residing in other
states
 to billing companies in those states, you would need a BA agreement
with
 the billing services to whom you forward the accounts.
  
 ACA International, a non profit trade association for, among others,
 billing and health care collection agencies has extensive educational
 materials and an upcoming program applying HIPAA to billing services
and
 health care collection agencies.  They have some upcoming educational
 programs that may interest you and your counsel. 
  
 Hope this helps.  
  
 Leslie C. Bender
 ROI WebEd Company
  
 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel E. McDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:59 PM
 To: WEDI SNIP Privacy Workgroup List
 Subject: Billing Services with Contractors
  
 I wanted to get input regarding Billing Services that use contractors
to
 perform certain services.  My understanding is the Billing Service is
 considered a Business Associate and not a covered entity.  If that is
 true, would the contractors working for a billing service be Business
 Associates of a Business Associate and would they sign a similair BA
 agreement as the billing service did but between them and the billing
 service??
 I look forward to everyone's intepretation as even our attorney is a
bit
 confused.
  
  
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RE: Billing Services with Contractors

2003-03-19 Thread Beth . Kranda



Yes.
We do 
this all the time. Internally we refer to these as subcontractor business 
associates. We have a template called a c-BAA that we have sent to all out 
subcontractors based on the provision in the BAA that requires us to pass 
through the same requirements to any subcontractor.

The 
whereasses go something like this

Whereas HIPAA requires a covered entity to...
WhereasI am a BA of a covered entity...
Whereas Contractor provides services 
to methrough which it may have access to PHI of covered entity...
Whereas we both desire...

I 
can't send you the whole agreement, but the rest of the cBAA reads much the same 
asour BAA.



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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 
  12:59 PMTo: WEDI SNIP Privacy Workgroup ListSubject: 
  Billing Services with Contractors
  
  I wanted to get input regarding 
  Billing Services that use contractors to perform certain services. My 
  understanding is the Billing Service is considered a Business Associate and 
  not a covered entity. If that is true, would the contractors working for 
  a billing service be Business Associates of a Business Associate and would 
  they sign a similair BA agreement as the billing service did but between them 
  and the billing service??
  I look forward to everyone's 
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RE: Billing Services with Contractors

2003-03-19 Thread Leslie C Bender
Oops - my apologies - little typo - 45 CFR Section 164.504(e)(2)(ii)(D)
- need stronger reading glasses.

Leslie Bender


-Original Message-
From: Leslie C Bender [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 2:31 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Billing Services with Contractors

See 45 CFR Section 164.504(e)(2)(i)(D).  There is also language to this
effect in the OCR's Model BA document.

Leslie Bender


-Original Message-
From: Brenda K. Burton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 2:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Billing Services with Contractors


Leslie -

So if my billing company did not consider itself a clearinghouse (thus a
CE); and we were only a BA, then anybody we subcontracted to would
require us to have a BA as well, (e.g. 'second tier business
associates')?  I have not seen/been told that before.  Please indicate
where that is stated in the regs. I appreciate your input and education!

Thanks,
Brenda


 Daniel:
  
 Not all billing services are business associates only.  If your
 billing service performs any translations of standard to nonstandard
 data elements in connection with any of the standard transactions
(e.g.,
 if you receive any print images of non standard itemized bills your
 provider clients have sent and key them into an 837 for re-billing or
 for billing to an insurer you now have discovered) your billing
service
 may meet the HIPAA definition of a clearinghouse and thus you would
be
 both a business associate and a covered entity.
  
 If you have any vendors with whom you use/exchange PHI on behalf of
your
 provider clients, they would likely be second tier business associates
 and yes you would need to have them execute BA agreements with you at
 least as stringent as those you sign with your provider clients.  For
 example, if you forward accounts from patients residing in other
states
 to billing companies in those states, you would need a BA agreement
with
 the billing services to whom you forward the accounts.
  
 ACA International, a non profit trade association for, among others,
 billing and health care collection agencies has extensive educational
 materials and an upcoming program applying HIPAA to billing services
and
 health care collection agencies.  They have some upcoming educational
 programs that may interest you and your counsel. 
  
 Hope this helps.  
  
 Leslie C. Bender
 ROI WebEd Company
  
 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel E. McDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:59 PM
 To: WEDI SNIP Privacy Workgroup List
 Subject: Billing Services with Contractors
  
 I wanted to get input regarding Billing Services that use contractors
to
 perform certain services.  My understanding is the Billing Service is
 considered a Business Associate and not a covered entity.  If that is
 true, would the contractors working for a billing service be Business
 Associates of a Business Associate and would they sign a similair BA
 agreement as the billing service did but between them and the billing
 service??
 I look forward to everyone's intepretation as even our attorney is a
bit
 confused.
  
  
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authorization

2003-03-19 Thread Kelli Caiafa
If we do need an auth to disclose information to a school nurse such as immunizations or back to school note, what if the physician gives the completed form to the parent? He/she can disclose anything to the parent in the case of a minor? Would this replace the need for the authorization if we simply gave the completed form to the parent?Kelli Caiafa, MHS, NHA
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RE: psych notes

2003-03-19 Thread Traci.Jensen



There 
is a difference of opinions on the list servs.

Psychotherapy notes and the mental health records are two separate 
things. Psychotherapy notes are the psychiatrists own personal notes they 
keep in their office. Psychotherapy notesdonotgo into 
the medical record. The notes that are included in themedical record 
are considered mental health records, which your state law would 
apply.

Traci 
Jensen, CHC
Compliance Programs Manager
Health 
Alliance Medical Plans, Inc.

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  PMTo: WEDI SNIP Privacy Workgroup ListSubject: psych 
  notesOur practice is family practice. We contract 
  in a LCSW who uses our charts for her progress notes. I understand that 
  mental health is handled differently than that of a PCP as far as 
  authorizations for release of info. (we need specific auth to release). 
  I also remember reading somewhere that mental health needs to be "seperately 
  identifiable" in the chart. Can someone help me out with this? We 
  do not have a seperate divider in the chart for mental health however we do 
  have the LCSW use blue progress notes. This seems reasonable to me to 
  satisfy the "seperately identifiable". Any words of 
  advise?Paulette OrtegaPractice AdministratorComprehensive 
  Family Care Center2002 Lake Ave., Ste. DPueblo, CO 
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RE: Accounting of Disclosures

2003-03-19 Thread Dee Warrington



Thanks for 
the clarification. I was only thinking of Workers Comp in terms of 
"payment", and yes, I agree, any disclosures outside of payment you would need 
an accounting.


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  Accounting of Disclosures
  I would 
  disagree. I would think that you must account for WC disclosures that are 
  required by state law. However, many WC disclosures will not have to be 
  accounted for b/c they fall into the "payment" category which is an exception 
  to the accounting rule. 
  
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RE: Accounting of Disclosures
Jill -- 
Correct. You do not have to account for workers compensation 
disclosures.


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  Accounting of DisclosuresI 
  understood that if you were disclosing PHI to worker's comp carriers for 
  payment purposes, you would not have to include it in the accoutning of 
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RE: Right to Inspect and Copy Internal Offices Notes

2003-03-19 Thread Traci.Jensen



If the 
internal notes are used in whole or in part to make a decision about an 
individual, then they would be part of the DRS.

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  Inspect and Copy Internal Offices NotesPatients have the right to inspect and copy their medical 
  record a practice maintains in a designated record set. I understand that some 
  offices keep internal notes of sorts (this patient is difficult, cooperative, 
  etc.). Do patients have the right to access those as well? Are they considered 
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RE: NPP in Other Languages

2003-03-19 Thread Matthew Rosenblum
The intent of the plain language clause pushes us to implement procedures
to educate our patients about how we use and disclose their information,
and consequently, we encourage our clients (covered entities) to view
reading level as only one aspect.  (BTW, this clause is applied to the
authorizations, as well.)

On Page 53241 of the Preamble to the (revised) Privacy rules HHS notes the
Department continues to believe strongly that promoting individuals'
understanding of privacy practices is an essential component of providing
notice to individuals.  Further, on Page 53219 HHS notes that the HIPAA
documents must be written in plain language so individuals can read and
understand its contents.  And still, in its recent guidance-report, OCR
says that a CE must maximize readability and clarity of the HIPAA
documents.

The concepts of readability and understanding are not new and pervade
many (other) Federal and State laws and accreditor standards that regulate
health care.

In NY the NYS DOH has issued a consumer advisory that states, Translations
and/or transcriptions of important hospital forms, instructions and
information must be provided to you if you feel you need them, and the NYS
State auditors enforce the regulations and intents.  Consequently, in NYC we
must provide some of our (clients') hospitals and ambulatory centers in
Brooklyn with translations in Russian, translations in Chinese in Manhattan,
and translations in Spanish are distributed throughout the five Burroughs;
translations in Hindi will be needed in Queens.

In addition to NY, a number of States have health or mental health laws that
mandate patient rights activities in hospitals, nursing homes, and similar
residences or institutions.  And these laws usually contain the language
understandable clauses regarding how we must provide information to the
patient.  One of the clearest examples of this language is Iowa State law
(Chapter 28) for all institutions --28.4(229) Patients’ rights for the
mentally ill:

In order to preserve the patients’ self-respect and dignity..The
patient shall be provided with complete and current information concerning
patient diagnosis, treatment and progress in terms and language
understandable to the patient.

The JCAHO, too, is definitely NOT silent on this matter.  Its Rights of
Individuals standards include a statement that the Individuals served have
a right to effective communication..Written information provided is
appropriate to the age, understanding, and language of the individual served
[and] The organization provides for interpretation (including translation
services) as necessary.

As a practical matter, we believe, and advise our clients accordingly, that
for most hospitals it will be the JCAHO or other Accreditor, NOT OCR, that
will provide the initial findings of how well the HIPAA rules have been met
by the hospital.
 
I hope that this helps.
 
Your questions are always welcome.
 
Matt
 
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-Original Message-
From: Charles H. Thulin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 8:10 PM
To: WEDI SNIP Privacy Workgroup List
Subject: RE: NPP in Other Languages

John,

I don't agree that the plain language requirement of the privacy
regulations requires translation of the NPP into other languages.

In its discussion of the plain language requirement in the preamble to
the final privacy regulations DHHS notes that Title VI of the Civil
Rights Act -- a separate statute -- generally requires entities that
receive Federal financial assistance to provide material ordinarily
distributed to the public in the primary languages of persons with
limited English proficiency in the recipients' service areas, 65
Fed.Reg. 82461, 82549 (December 28, 2000),  thereby creating an
obligation in some cases -- for entities that are subject to Title VI --
to provide the HIPAA notice in non-English languages.  

Employer group health plans, for example, aren't subject to Title VI
(they don't receive Federal