Re: [WikiEducator] Open access education courses
Sarah, I believe our recent paper is directly related to you question: A Sustainable Model for OpenCourseWare Development http://hdl.lib.byu.edu/1877/2353 Let me know if I can answer any questions about the research. And good luck with your own work - it's very important! David On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Sarah Stewart sarahstewar...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone My name is Sarah Stewart and I work for the Educational Development Centre at Otago Polytechnic, Dunedin New Zealand. This year we are working to make our Graduate Certificate of Tertiary Learning and Teaching fully open access. We already have a couple of courses that we deliver via Wikieducator: Facilitating Online (FO2011) (http://wikieducator.org/Facilitating_Online) and Flexible Learning (http://wikieducator.org/Flexible_Learning_Guidebook). In the next wee while we plan to have the whole program in Wikieducator. We have developed a funding model which we are going to pilot with the FO2011 which starts next week: http://facilitatingonlinecommunities.blogspot.com/2011/02/fees-for-facilitating-online-2011.html At the same time I am getting my head around the issues of OER, funding models and sustainability. I am particularly interested in hearing from any educators who currently teach in open access courses, who work with a model of conversion ie working with students who are initially informal students who then enrol as formal students. I have written a blog post that is articulating some of the issues I would like to clarify - I would really appreciate your feedback: http://sarah-stewart.blogspot.com/2011/03/trying-to-work-out-research-question.html thank you, Sarah -- Sarah Stewart EdD Student and Consultant http://sarah-stewart.blogspot.com Skype: sarah.m.stewart Twitter: SarahStewart Second Life: Petal Stransky +64 27 7379998 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [WikiEducator] Draft agenda for OER university planning meeting posted for comment
The latest issue of IRRODL is dedicated to Prior Learning Assessments, and may contain information useful to this discussion. http://www.irrodl.org/index.php/irrodl David On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, We've posted the draft agenda for the open planning meeting for the OER for assessment and credit for students project. See: http://wikieducator.org/OER_for_Assessment_and_Credit_for_Students/Meeting_Agenda_-_23_Feb_2011 Please post your ideas, suggestions and feedback on the draft agenda on the corresponding talk page: http://wikieducator.org/Talk:OER_for_Assessment_and_Credit_for_Students/Meeting_Agenda_-_23_Feb_2011 The review team comprising anchor partners and meeting sponsors will consider all submissions for the meeting. Let's build the OER university together. Cheers Wayne Register your participation in this open planning meeting here: http://wikieducator.org/OER_for_Assessment_and_Credit_for_Students/Meetings -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director OER Foundation Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Founder and elected Community Council Member, Wikieducator Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter | identi.ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
[WikiEducator] Re: International accredited OER based university
Randy, great idea! Thanks! D On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Randy Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi David, As you prepare your requests for partnerships, it would be great if you could put together some kind of a visual matrix of needs / requirements, so that folks visiting your site, could fairly immediately ascertain how they could be of help. It will also help us spread the word within the WikiEducator community, so that we can facilitate linkages which our mutually beneficial. Congrats! Randy On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 1:51 PM, David Wiley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do I smell an articulation agreement? =) D On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Leigh Blackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Inspiring Dave and the gang. I'm once again motivated and directed by your work, and will now begin attempting to position Otago Polytechnic as a 100% OER Education and Training Org following your secondary school as an example. On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 4:33 AM, Wayne Mackintosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David WOW! I'd like to join Peter in echoing our congratulations. This is a landmark milestone for the free knowledge community. The WE community will help in every way we can in collaborating on the development of free content for this initiative. Well done Dave --- still leading the pack hey! Cheers Wayne On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 10:42 -0600, David Wiley wrote: Our application to create a new public, online high school based on OERs has been approved! http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/499 Now the real work begins... D On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 4:01 PM, simonfj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Leigh, Sorry this has taken so long. A lot going on at present. Re the blog. What would I want want with a blog when people like you say everything so much better than me? You know i inhabit lots of forums like this one - some inside institutions, some (like this) on the border, some which represent the new (global) institutions like sitepoint. The nearest thing to a blog = http://me.edu.au/p/Simonfj It's not much but you know it's constructed by education.au, and they're starting to see that me.edu.au could also be an Aussie's lifelong learning account = an OpenID to other .edu and .gov.au domains. Like most institutions, the edna guys have a problem separating eteaching from elearning. http://www.groups.edna.edu.au/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=25285#78420 But there getting there. Conflation is such a wonderful description isn't it? You might want to keep tabs on Moodle's Social lounge. http://moodle.org/mod/forum/view.php?id=6801 And compare it to what Wayne''s doing and the (unreported) Tectonic Shift between wiki stuff. We seem to be at the stage now where there's starting to be some focus on the Real Time Communications stuff. The 'web 2.0' focus is tiring now = so many domains producing so many me too courses/information. But the driving factor is that the National telcos have squeezed the lemon dry (with VoIP, etc) and Skype has attuned global communities to just how much they are ripped off. So all those skills you've picked up by working with it should prove to be useful as its Open versions grow legs. I can't push this (my lady is sooo ill, so i can't get out) but i do have a patent which should be useful as the geeks start focusing on this little challenge. http://openlearn.open.ac.uk/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=1172 In the meantime, thanks for all your stuff and others around this space (Wayne). It keep sane to see so much creativity and common sense in the one place. Here's one other. http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/66 regards, http://me.edu.au/p/Simonfj On Apr 26, 7:15 am, Leigh Blackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well said Simon. Do you keep a blog I'm not aware of? I'd like to be following this type of advice and insight. Regarding very slight change all too slowly... The thing I am seeing more and more of in the institutions and the people like me that have been in them for far too long, is the adoption of the rhetoric but not the action. I am seeing many projects get funded based on their 'participatory' models, their openness, their 'action' research. But in reality they don't have anything near participation or openness, and as a result very little action to then research. Simple things like, a fella in charge of a project organising a public seminar to launch the project, in which 3 other fellas position themselves centre stage and proceed to TELL everyone what they have planned. Typically, they have not organised any back channel, their feedback loop
[WikiEducator] Re: International accredited OER based university
Our application to create a new public, online high school based on OERs has been approved! http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/499 Now the real work begins... D On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 4:01 PM, simonfj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Leigh, Sorry this has taken so long. A lot going on at present. Re the blog. What would I want want with a blog when people like you say everything so much better than me? You know i inhabit lots of forums like this one - some inside institutions, some (like this) on the border, some which represent the new (global) institutions like sitepoint. The nearest thing to a blog = http://me.edu.au/p/Simonfj It's not much but you know it's constructed by education.au, and they're starting to see that me.edu.au could also be an Aussie's lifelong learning account = an OpenID to other .edu and .gov.au domains. Like most institutions, the edna guys have a problem separating eteaching from elearning. http://www.groups.edna.edu.au/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=25285#78420 But there getting there. Conflation is such a wonderful description isn't it? You might want to keep tabs on Moodle's Social lounge. http://moodle.org/mod/forum/view.php?id=6801 And compare it to what Wayne''s doing and the (unreported) Tectonic Shift between wiki stuff. We seem to be at the stage now where there's starting to be some focus on the Real Time Communications stuff. The 'web 2.0' focus is tiring now = so many domains producing so many me too courses/information. But the driving factor is that the National telcos have squeezed the lemon dry (with VoIP, etc) and Skype has attuned global communities to just how much they are ripped off. So all those skills you've picked up by working with it should prove to be useful as its Open versions grow legs. I can't push this (my lady is sooo ill, so i can't get out) but i do have a patent which should be useful as the geeks start focusing on this little challenge. http://openlearn.open.ac.uk/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=1172 In the meantime, thanks for all your stuff and others around this space (Wayne). It keep sane to see so much creativity and common sense in the one place. Here's one other. http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/66 regards, http://me.edu.au/p/Simonfj On Apr 26, 7:15 am, Leigh Blackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well said Simon. Do you keep a blog I'm not aware of? I'd like to be following this type of advice and insight. Regarding very slight change all too slowly... The thing I am seeing more and more of in the institutions and the people like me that have been in them for far too long, is the adoption of the rhetoric but not the action. I am seeing many projects get funded based on their 'participatory' models, their openness, their 'action' research. But in reality they don't have anything near participation or openness, and as a result very little action to then research. Simple things like, a fella in charge of a project organising a public seminar to launch the project, in which 3 other fellas position themselves centre stage and proceed to TELL everyone what they have planned. Typically, they have not organised any back channel, their feedback loop (if they have one) involves sending an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] that gets no reply. And at the end of the seminar people walk out feeling ripped off that they missed their fav TV show to attend it and NOT participate. I'm sure this is the way it has always been, but today it is even worse because we have all the lobby and research that says participation and oppenness is the way, and the government and funding bodies are positioning their criteria for this, but the measures and accountability for participation and oppeness are not in place. As a result, millions of $ are being awarded to some projects for people who are simply good at wearing rhetoric without really changing their action. Their reports end up the same camelion output. I hope all this ranting is trikiing a chord your end, because I am seeing it more and more, and it is concerning me a great deal. So, your suggestion to get the grant and do it 'ourselves'. Would we do it any better? Given that to get the grant we have to adopt both theirs and our rhetoric AND be accountable to that? The projects I am a part of that have that accountability involve so many compromises that its easy to lose sight of what you were trying to do in the first place. How can we obtain resources and retain the freedom to act and react quickly and spontaneously like we have done so all along? Is this what the US ideology of free markets and corporatism is trying to tell us? This self organising principle based on a very simple funding arrangement of user pays and demand... I'm starting to wonder off and become incoherent (if I'm not totally that way already). In short, it seems that we ARE doing it already, and each of us individually dragging our
[WikiEducator] Re: International accredited OER based university
Do I smell an articulation agreement? =) D On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Leigh Blackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Inspiring Dave and the gang. I'm once again motivated and directed by your work, and will now begin attempting to position Otago Polytechnic as a 100% OER Education and Training Org following your secondary school as an example. On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 4:33 AM, Wayne Mackintosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David WOW! I'd like to join Peter in echoing our congratulations. This is a landmark milestone for the free knowledge community. The WE community will help in every way we can in collaborating on the development of free content for this initiative. Well done Dave --- still leading the pack hey! Cheers Wayne On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 10:42 -0600, David Wiley wrote: Our application to create a new public, online high school based on OERs has been approved! http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/499 Now the real work begins... D On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 4:01 PM, simonfj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Leigh, Sorry this has taken so long. A lot going on at present. Re the blog. What would I want want with a blog when people like you say everything so much better than me? You know i inhabit lots of forums like this one - some inside institutions, some (like this) on the border, some which represent the new (global) institutions like sitepoint. The nearest thing to a blog = http://me.edu.au/p/Simonfj It's not much but you know it's constructed by education.au, and they're starting to see that me.edu.au could also be an Aussie's lifelong learning account = an OpenID to other .edu and .gov.au domains. Like most institutions, the edna guys have a problem separating eteaching from elearning. http://www.groups.edna.edu.au/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=25285#78420 But there getting there. Conflation is such a wonderful description isn't it? You might want to keep tabs on Moodle's Social lounge. http://moodle.org/mod/forum/view.php?id=6801 And compare it to what Wayne''s doing and the (unreported) Tectonic Shift between wiki stuff. We seem to be at the stage now where there's starting to be some focus on the Real Time Communications stuff. The 'web 2.0' focus is tiring now = so many domains producing so many me too courses/information. But the driving factor is that the National telcos have squeezed the lemon dry (with VoIP, etc) and Skype has attuned global communities to just how much they are ripped off. So all those skills you've picked up by working with it should prove to be useful as its Open versions grow legs. I can't push this (my lady is sooo ill, so i can't get out) but i do have a patent which should be useful as the geeks start focusing on this little challenge. http://openlearn.open.ac.uk/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=1172 In the meantime, thanks for all your stuff and others around this space (Wayne). It keep sane to see so much creativity and common sense in the one place. Here's one other. http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/66 regards, http://me.edu.au/p/Simonfj On Apr 26, 7:15 am, Leigh Blackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well said Simon. Do you keep a blog I'm not aware of? I'd like to be following this type of advice and insight. Regarding very slight change all too slowly... The thing I am seeing more and more of in the institutions and the people like me that have been in them for far too long, is the adoption of the rhetoric but not the action. I am seeing many projects get funded based on their 'participatory' models, their openness, their 'action' research. But in reality they don't have anything near participation or openness, and as a result very little action to then research. Simple things like, a fella in charge of a project organising a public seminar to launch the project, in which 3 other fellas position themselves centre stage and proceed to TELL everyone what they have planned. Typically, they have not organised any back channel, their feedback loop (if they have one) involves sending an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] that gets no reply. And at the end of the seminar people walk out feeling ripped off that they missed their fav TV show to attend it and NOT participate. I'm sure this is the way it has always been, but today it is even worse because we have all the lobby and research that says participation and oppenness is the way, and the government and funding bodies are positioning their criteria for this, but the measures and accountability for participation and oppeness are not in place. As a result, millions of $ are being awarded to some projects for people who are simply good at wearing rhetoric without really changing their action. Their reports end up the same
[WikiEducator] Re: International accredited OER based university
Excellent news! As soon as we have the official word, we can figure out how these things all fit together... D On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:02 PM, mackiwg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi David, Creative partnerships are certainly possible :-) and I have good news on this front. UNESCO and COL have revised and updated our collective work plan. You will see that OERs @ all levels of education WikiEducator are clearly specified in the work plan: http://www.col.org/colweb/site/pid/4658 This partnership will enable WE to work outside the Commonwealth involving UNESCO member states. We're hoping to make a more concrete announcement about the practical components of this collaboration in the near future -- so lets keep in touch on this one. Cheers Wayne On Apr 7, 2:22 pm, David Wiley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wayne, There's nothing online yet - official notification from the state government should come on May 9 2008 (for a fall 2009 start). Once that happens, there will be a deluge of info. I'm extremely excited, and have been trying really hard to sit on my hands waiting for the announcement - I didn't want to get everyone all worked up if they're going to tell us no. Every indication is, though, that they're going to tell us yes. I hope to find a creative way to partner with you on the project (creative since I'm not officially part of the Commonwealth). I think the equation is important, too, and I agree it says a lot about sustainability. Now if I could just understand my own equation... =) D On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:06 PM, mackiwg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi David ( friends) On Mar 27, 9:08 am, David Wiley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: open educational resources + open learning support + open credentialing = open education Apology for the late contribution to the discussion -- I've just returned from my home visit to NZ where I was able to live out my promise to the family by staying away from my laptop. I made a point of travelling to places where I wouldn't have connectivity -- so apart from withdrawal symptoms - was able to live out my commitments :-). David -- I'm VERY interested in learning more about the Open High School of Utah initiative -- where do I find out more? This is a model which could be replicated throughout the Commonwealth and would like to see how WE could build communities of teachers/educators to support the success of initiatives like this. BTW -- I really like the equation: Open educational resources + open learning support + open credentialing = open education -- somehow I think this equation also provides valuable insights into economic sustainability of the Open Education movement. Cheers Wayne --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: International accredited OER based university
Randy, I ~didn't~ know this and we would be absolutely giddy to see them. Many thanks for the heads up... How do we access them / how can we help? David On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Randy Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi David, Great initiative - were you aware that WikiEd received a donation of chemistry labs for Gr. 10 and 11 - we have to get them into wiki format...but we've got 'em (they were generated by much lauded BC Science Teacher, Jim Hebden). Would these be of interest to you? - Randy On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:40 AM, David Wiley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon and Leigh, We haven't been talking about it much, because we're still one step in the approval process away, but for a year now we've been working on establishing the Open High School of Utah - a publicly funded (and therefore free as in beer to students in the state of Utah) completely online high school that uses OERs exclusively throughout the entire curriculum. The final approval should be given this May for a Fall 2009 opening in which we'll admit a class of 9th graders, meaning that we'll have 15 months or so to put together the entire 9th grade curriculum's worth of OERs built out to stand-alone quality (i.e., not OERs to supplement textbooks, OERs as the primary content for the high school). Then in 2010 we'll do 9th and 10th grade, etc., until in 2012 we're running all four years of high school. All the materials will be freely available, as will our charter document, as will all the technology we will use to run the school. We hope to be a model of how OERs can revolutionize the practice and the funding of both learning AND education... D On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 1:44 AM, Leigh Blackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great post Simon, I enjoy your wit :) Maybe I should clarify what I say about learning being free, education still costs I mean the same as you mean - learning is what people are always free to do, and with todays enhanced capacity to access information and communication, learning might be vastly improved. But what is education in all that? Well, to me education is the formality that we agree is the extra, inflated, and fee driven bit. Education is the bit of paper that says you have been learning... So I think we actually agree, but it may be that I'm being a bit too cynical in my use of the work education. Here's a longer post I wrote on it if you're still troubled by my slogan. On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 1:52 PM, simonfj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 25, 2:05 pm, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cormac, Leigh, Simon, Others... Thanks for the great feedback. I certainly hope some others jump in... Cormac, There is a body of work where the evaluation of a persons contribution is evaluated via software; it's not so advanced that it can target a single person and evaluate what they have done... probably one day (soon), see these two references;http://www.research.ibm.com/visual/projects/history_flow/http://www.soe.ucsc.edu/~luca/papers/07/wikiwww2007.pdf Ooo! I can't see it. But that's only because i never have. Evaluation to me, and I've had to employ graduates to do media jobs, always comes down to seeing of they, or their teachers, can do it. i.e. have institutions prepared the inexperienced for it?. Old industries, no problem. New industries, like the interactive media ones; rarely a clue. Let me give you an illustration of a change going back 30 years. Unis were trying to teach AV production stuff. Many didn't have a recording desk. Even fewer had relationships with bands or actors interested in recording. Even if some students did, they wouldn't be encouraged to bring those noisy long haired gits into a lovely clean studio. So one dirty engineer in Sydney started offering courses in his studio, which now, though some unis in 49 countries, offers accredited courses. http://www.sae.edu/. But it wasn't until the unis were included in the Learning mix of enough working engineers that the accreditations were given. Until then, we usually just gave students a piece of paper, and for the more determined, helped them find them a job. Now a three month course has inflated to three years. The thing i find fascinating - when watching new interactive global media institutions, like Wikipedia, et al, get their Project Groups' Learning ground(s) together and professionalize good habits, while at the same time watching national Teaching institutions struggling to think outside their squares - is that nothing seems to have changed. In the professionals' web space, you see the beginnings of global interactive environments, which are obviously self sustaining and appear to help people meet peers, get
[WikiEducator] Re: International accredited OER based university
Peter, we're still working out all these details. As I said in my previous message, the school won't receive it's final approvals from the state until May of this year. So while we're working ahead somewhat, we're still waiting to really turn things on until we know we have a green light. D On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David, Patricia, had it right, this is really impressive!!! It really gets me thinking and excited about the possibilities for use by WikiEd or other OER projects. I get particularly excited about its reuse and what will be learned from that. Is there any further information (published or otherwise) available about what you are doing? I am curious about things like; licensing approach (CC GPL ??), who will be the content authors / editors / creators, what technical platform / architecture will you be using? Will there be some kind of version management? And given its structure, how easy would it be to localize (language, culture, context)? etc... On Mar 26, 4:49 pm, Leigh Blackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is awesome David, it will be right up there with the South African Curriculum on Wikibooks, but taking it one step further by the sound of it. Peter, I agree.. many are perhaps misusing the word 'education', but rest assured, Otago Polytechnic is working towards Open Education as well as Open Learning... I think this is an important distinction you make in the OER effort and should be carried further. It will help up the ante I reckon, into what you initially call for in this thread... Open Access, Open Learning AND Open Education.. and if that can be free (as in beer) then great! Or at least, vastly reduced in cost... On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 9:47 AM, David Wiley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, The content will be open to everyone, but enrollment in the school will be restricted to those in the state of Utah (since the state govt pays the bills). D On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David, This is great to read. What an amazing step to put all this forward as an OER Highschool. You say it will be free to students in Utah, will students outside of Utah still have access? Or will all this just be open within the state of Utah? And therefore be used to prove out the model... There is one thing that jumps out at me from within this discussion thread. Are we mis-using the word Education within OER. As we seem to have agreement that Education is the whole, where learning is what you do with the resources. Education includes the assessment, accreditation, etc. that the educational institutions provide. Shouldn't we really be calling these materials Open Learning Resources (OLR). My point being (in the context of this Bissell article; http://learn.creativecommons.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/bissellbo... ); Don't we require Open Access Assessment and Open Access Accrediation before we can achieve OER? Because this then makes free the whole of Education. Wikipedia and Open Source have nothing restraining their domain toward openness. OER has a huge restraint in that Assessment and Accreditation are still closed. As we stumble toward OER don't we need to wrestle it (assessment, accreditaion) away from the institutions (like MIT, UNESCO, OU, etc) and also make it open and free? And not until we have wrestled it away, OERs success will be restrained. I wonder what Paulo Friere would have to say about the institutions still controlling the Assessment and Accreditation? I look forward to your reply(ies)... P On Mar 26, 8:40 am, David Wiley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon and Leigh, We haven't been talking about it much, because we're still one step in the approval process away, but for a year now we've been working on establishing the Open High School of Utah - a publicly funded (and therefore free as in beer to students in the state of Utah) completely online high school that uses OERs exclusively throughout the entire curriculum. The final approval should be given this May for a Fall 2009 opening in which we'll admit a class of 9th graders, meaning that we'll have 15 months or so to put together the entire 9th grade curriculum's worth of OERs built out to stand-alone quality (i.e., not OERs to supplement textbooks, OERs as the primary content for the high school). Then in 2010 we'll do 9th and 10th grade, etc., until in 2012 we're running all four years of high school. All the materials will be freely available, as will our charter document, as will all the technology we will use to run the school
[WikiEducator] Re: International accredited OER based university
Peter, The content will be open to everyone, but enrollment in the school will be restricted to those in the state of Utah (since the state govt pays the bills). D On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David, This is great to read. What an amazing step to put all this forward as an OER Highschool. You say it will be free to students in Utah, will students outside of Utah still have access? Or will all this just be open within the state of Utah? And therefore be used to prove out the model... There is one thing that jumps out at me from within this discussion thread. Are we mis-using the word Education within OER. As we seem to have agreement that Education is the whole, where learning is what you do with the resources. Education includes the assessment, accreditation, etc. that the educational institutions provide. Shouldn't we really be calling these materials Open Learning Resources (OLR). My point being (in the context of this Bissell article; http://learn.creativecommons.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/bissellboyleedtecarticle.pdf); Don't we require Open Access Assessment and Open Access Accrediation before we can achieve OER? Because this then makes free the whole of Education. Wikipedia and Open Source have nothing restraining their domain toward openness. OER has a huge restraint in that Assessment and Accreditation are still closed. As we stumble toward OER don't we need to wrestle it (assessment, accreditaion) away from the institutions (like MIT, UNESCO, OU, etc) and also make it open and free? And not until we have wrestled it away, OERs success will be restrained. I wonder what Paulo Friere would have to say about the institutions still controlling the Assessment and Accreditation? I look forward to your reply(ies)... P On Mar 26, 8:40 am, David Wiley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon and Leigh, We haven't been talking about it much, because we're still one step in the approval process away, but for a year now we've been working on establishing the Open High School of Utah - a publicly funded (and therefore free as in beer to students in the state of Utah) completely online high school that uses OERs exclusively throughout the entire curriculum. The final approval should be given this May for a Fall 2009 opening in which we'll admit a class of 9th graders, meaning that we'll have 15 months or so to put together the entire 9th grade curriculum's worth of OERs built out to stand-alone quality (i.e., not OERs to supplement textbooks, OERs as the primary content for the high school). Then in 2010 we'll do 9th and 10th grade, etc., until in 2012 we're running all four years of high school. All the materials will be freely available, as will our charter document, as will all the technology we will use to run the school. We hope to be a model of how OERs can revolutionize the practice and the funding of both learning AND education... D On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 1:44 AM, Leigh Blackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great post Simon, I enjoy your wit :) Maybe I should clarify what I say about learning being free, education still costs I mean the same as you mean - learning is what people are always free to do, and with todays enhanced capacity to access information and communication, learning might be vastly improved. But what is education in all that? Well, to me education is the formality that we agree is the extra, inflated, and fee driven bit. Education is the bit of paper that says you have been learning... So I think we actually agree, but it may be that I'm being a bit too cynical in my use of the work education. Here's a longer post I wrote on it if you're still troubled by my slogan. On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 1:52 PM, simonfj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 25, 2:05 pm, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cormac, Leigh, Simon, Others... Thanks for the great feedback. I certainly hope some others jump in... Cormac, There is a body of work where the evaluation of a persons contribution is evaluated via software; it's not so advanced that it can target a single person and evaluate what they have done... probably one day (soon), see these two references;http://www.research.ibm.com/visual/projects/history_flow/http://www.s... Ooo! I can't see it. But that's only because i never have. Evaluation to me, and I've had to employ graduates to do media jobs, always comes down to seeing of they, or their teachers, can do it. i.e. have institutions prepared the inexperienced for it?. Old industries, no problem. New industries, like the interactive media ones; rarely a clue. Let me give you an illustration of a change going back 30 years. Unis were trying to teach AV
