Randy, great idea! Thanks! D
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Randy Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi David, > > As you prepare your requests for partnerships, it would be great if you > could put together some kind of a visual matrix of needs / requirements, so > that folks visiting your site, could fairly immediately ascertain how they > could be of help. > > It will also help us spread the word within the WikiEducator community, so > that we can facilitate linkages which our mutually beneficial. > > Congrats! > > Randy > > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 1:51 PM, David Wiley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Do I smell an articulation agreement? =) >> >> D >> >> On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Leigh Blackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > Inspiring Dave and the gang. I'm once again motivated and directed by >> > your >> > work, and will now begin attempting to position Otago Polytechnic as a >> > 100% >> > OER Education and Training Org following your secondary school as an >> > example. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 4:33 AM, Wayne Mackintosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > David >> > > >> > > WOW! I'd like to join Peter in echoing our congratulations. This is a >> > landmark milestone for the free knowledge community. >> > > >> > > The WE community will help in every way we can in collaborating on the >> > development of free content for this initiative. >> > > >> > > Well done Dave --- still leading the pack hey! >> > > >> > > Cheers >> > > Wayne >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 10:42 -0600, David Wiley wrote: >> > > Our application to create a new public, online high school based on >> > > OERs has been approved! >> > > >> > > http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/499 >> > > >> > > Now the real work begins... >> > > >> > > D >> > > >> > > On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 4:01 PM, simonfj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Hi Leigh, >> > > > >> > > > Sorry this has taken so long. A lot going on at present. >> > > > >> > > > Re the blog. What would I want want with a blog when people like you >> > > > say everything so much better than me? >> > > > >> > > > You know i inhabit lots of forums like this one - some inside >> > > > institutions, some (like this) on the border, some which represent >> > > > the >> > > > new (global) institutions like sitepoint. The nearest thing to a >> > > > blog >> > > > = http://me.edu.au/p/Simonfj >> > > > >> > > > It's not much but you know it's constructed by education.au, and >> > > > they're starting to see that me.edu.au could also be an Aussie's >> > > > lifelong learning account = an OpenID to other .edu and .gov.au >> > > > domains. >> > > > >> > > > Like most institutions, the edna guys have a problem separating >> > > > eteaching from elearning. >> > http://www.groups.edna.edu.au/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=25285#78420 >> > > > But there getting there. Conflation is such a wonderful description >> > > > isn't it? >> > > > >> > > > You might want to keep tabs on Moodle's Social lounge. >> > > > http://moodle.org/mod/forum/view.php?id=6801 >> > > > And compare it to what Wayne''s doing and the (unreported) Tectonic >> > > > Shift between wiki stuff. >> > > > >> > > > We seem to be at the stage now where there's starting to be some >> > > > focus >> > > > on the Real Time Communications stuff. The 'web 2.0' focus is tiring >> > > > now = so many domains producing so many "me too" >> > > > courses/information. >> > > > But the driving factor is that the National telcos have squeezed the >> > > > lemon dry (with VoIP, etc) and Skype has attuned global communities >> > > > to >> > > > just how much they are ripped off. So all those skills you've picked >> > > > up by working with it should prove to be useful as its Open versions >> > > > grow legs. >> > > > >> > > > I can't push this (my lady is sooo ill, so i can't get out) but i do >> > > > have a patent which should be useful as the geeks start focusing on >> > > > this little challenge. >> > http://openlearn.open.ac.uk/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=1172 >> > > > >> > > > In the meantime, thanks for all your stuff and others around this >> > > > space (Wayne). It keep sane to see so much creativity and common >> > > > sense >> > > > in the one place. >> > > > Here's one other. http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/66 >> > > > regards, >> > > > http://me.edu.au/p/Simonfj >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Apr 26, 7:15 am, "Leigh Blackall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > wrote: >> > > >> Well said Simon. Do you keep a blog I'm not aware of? I'd like to >> > > >> be >> > > >> following this type of advice and insight. >> > > >> >> > > >> Regarding very slight change all too slowly... >> > > >> >> > > >> The thing I am seeing more and more of in the institutions and the >> > people >> > > >> like me that have been in them for far too long, is the adoption of >> > > >> the >> > > >> rhetoric but not the action. >> > > >> >> > > >> I am seeing many projects get funded based on their 'participatory' >> > models, >> > > >> their openness, their 'action' research. But in reality they don't >> > > >> have >> > > >> anything near participation or openness, and as a result very >> > > >> little >> > action >> > > >> to then research. >> > > >> >> > > >> Simple things like, a fella in charge of a project organising a >> > > >> public >> > > >> seminar to launch the project, in which 3 other fellas position >> > themselves >> > > >> centre stage and proceed to TELL everyone what they have planned. >> > Typically, >> > > >> they have not organised any back channel, their feedback loop (if >> > > >> they >> > have >> > > >> one) involves sending an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] that gets no >> > > >> reply. >> > > >> And >> > at >> > > >> the end of the seminar people walk out feeling ripped off that they >> > missed >> > > >> their fav TV show to attend it and NOT participate. >> > > >> >> > > >> I'm sure this is the way it has always been, but today it is even >> > > >> worse >> > > >> because we have all the lobby and research that says participation >> > > >> and >> > > >> oppenness is the way, and the government and funding bodies are >> > positioning >> > > >> their criteria for this, but the measures and accountability for >> > > >> participation and oppeness are not in place. As a result, millions >> > > >> of $ >> > are >> > > >> being awarded to some projects for people who are simply good at >> > wearing >> > > >> rhetoric without really changing their action. Their reports end up >> > > >> the >> > same >> > > >> camelion output. >> > > >> >> > > >> I hope all this ranting is trikiing a chord your end, because I am >> > seeing it >> > > >> more and more, and it is concerning me a great deal. >> > > >> >> > > >> So, your suggestion to get the grant and do it 'ourselves'. Would >> > > >> we do >> > it >> > > >> any better? Given that to get the grant we have to adopt both >> > > >> theirs >> > and our >> > > >> rhetoric AND be accountable to that? The projects I am a part of >> > > >> that >> > have >> > > >> that accountability involve so many compromises that its easy to >> > > >> lose >> > sight >> > > >> of what you were trying to do in the first place. >> > > >> >> > > >> How can we obtain resources and retain the freedom to act and react >> > quickly >> > > >> and spontaneously like we have done so all along? Is this what the >> > > >> US >> > > >> ideology of free markets and corporatism is trying to tell us? This >> > self >> > > >> organising principle based on a very simple funding arrangement of >> > > >> user >> > pays >> > > >> and demand... >> > > >> >> > > >> I'm starting to wonder off and become incoherent (if I'm not >> > > >> totally >> > that >> > > >> way already). >> > > >> >> > > >> In short, it seems that we ARE doing it already, and each of us >> > individually >> > > >> dragging our institutional blobs and resources along with us. I >> > > >> have >> > managed >> > > >> to position my job and its performance indicators so that my work >> > > >> with >> > > >> Wikieducator can be sustained. So in that way, the institution I am >> > working >> > > >> in is changing, and I have the freedom to act and react in that new >> > > >> framework. When I started, they would have had me work in their >> > > >> LMS. So >> > if >> > > >> we can get enough people doing that (positioning their job into >> > > >> this >> > Wikied >> > > >> utility web service), we might start seeing more sustained >> > > >> resources >> > into >> > > >> Wikieducator's participatory and open model, and the individual >> > freedoms >> > > >> with that. At the moment, I suspect that most people are simply >> > dabbling in >> > > >> Wikieducator and are doing so outside their job description and >> > performance >> > > >> indicators. >> > > >> >> > > >> So either things like WIkieducaor continue on that path and be >> > > >> patient, >> > CoL >> > > >> and other facilitators doing what they can to promote and develop >> > > >> it. >> > And/or >> > > >> we find a way that will suddenly tip the balance in a >> > > >> Google/Youtube >> > kind of >> > > >> way that involves us getting a large amount of money and working >> > outside our >> > > >> institutions with a very to subverting them... >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > -- >> > Leigh Blackall >> > +64(0)21736539 >> > skype - leigh_blackall >> > SL - Leroy Goalpost >> > http://learnonline.wordpress.com >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > -- > ________________ > Randy Fisher - Facilitating Change & Improving Performance - for People, > Communities, and Organizations > http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Wikirandy > > + 1 604.684.2275 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.hirerandy.com > > Skype: wikirandy > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. 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