Do I smell an articulation agreement? =) D
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Leigh Blackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Inspiring Dave and the gang. I'm once again motivated and directed by your > work, and will now begin attempting to position Otago Polytechnic as a 100% > OER Education and Training Org following your secondary school as an > example. > > > > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 4:33 AM, Wayne Mackintosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > David > > > > WOW! I'd like to join Peter in echoing our congratulations. This is a > landmark milestone for the free knowledge community. > > > > The WE community will help in every way we can in collaborating on the > development of free content for this initiative. > > > > Well done Dave --- still leading the pack hey! > > > > Cheers > > Wayne > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 10:42 -0600, David Wiley wrote: > > Our application to create a new public, online high school based on > > OERs has been approved! > > > > http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/499 > > > > Now the real work begins... > > > > D > > > > On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 4:01 PM, simonfj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Leigh, > > > > > > Sorry this has taken so long. A lot going on at present. > > > > > > Re the blog. What would I want want with a blog when people like you > > > say everything so much better than me? > > > > > > You know i inhabit lots of forums like this one - some inside > > > institutions, some (like this) on the border, some which represent the > > > new (global) institutions like sitepoint. The nearest thing to a blog > > > = http://me.edu.au/p/Simonfj > > > > > > It's not much but you know it's constructed by education.au, and > > > they're starting to see that me.edu.au could also be an Aussie's > > > lifelong learning account = an OpenID to other .edu and .gov.au > > > domains. > > > > > > Like most institutions, the edna guys have a problem separating > > > eteaching from elearning. > http://www.groups.edna.edu.au/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=25285#78420 > > > But there getting there. Conflation is such a wonderful description > > > isn't it? > > > > > > You might want to keep tabs on Moodle's Social lounge. > > > http://moodle.org/mod/forum/view.php?id=6801 > > > And compare it to what Wayne''s doing and the (unreported) Tectonic > > > Shift between wiki stuff. > > > > > > We seem to be at the stage now where there's starting to be some focus > > > on the Real Time Communications stuff. The 'web 2.0' focus is tiring > > > now = so many domains producing so many "me too" courses/information. > > > But the driving factor is that the National telcos have squeezed the > > > lemon dry (with VoIP, etc) and Skype has attuned global communities to > > > just how much they are ripped off. So all those skills you've picked > > > up by working with it should prove to be useful as its Open versions > > > grow legs. > > > > > > I can't push this (my lady is sooo ill, so i can't get out) but i do > > > have a patent which should be useful as the geeks start focusing on > > > this little challenge. > http://openlearn.open.ac.uk/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=1172 > > > > > > In the meantime, thanks for all your stuff and others around this > > > space (Wayne). It keep sane to see so much creativity and common sense > > > in the one place. > > > Here's one other. http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/66 > > > regards, > > > http://me.edu.au/p/Simonfj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 26, 7:15 am, "Leigh Blackall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Well said Simon. Do you keep a blog I'm not aware of? I'd like to be > > >> following this type of advice and insight. > > >> > > >> Regarding very slight change all too slowly... > > >> > > >> The thing I am seeing more and more of in the institutions and the > people > > >> like me that have been in them for far too long, is the adoption of the > > >> rhetoric but not the action. > > >> > > >> I am seeing many projects get funded based on their 'participatory' > models, > > >> their openness, their 'action' research. But in reality they don't have > > >> anything near participation or openness, and as a result very little > action > > >> to then research. > > >> > > >> Simple things like, a fella in charge of a project organising a public > > >> seminar to launch the project, in which 3 other fellas position > themselves > > >> centre stage and proceed to TELL everyone what they have planned. > Typically, > > >> they have not organised any back channel, their feedback loop (if they > have > > >> one) involves sending an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] that gets no reply. > > >> And > at > > >> the end of the seminar people walk out feeling ripped off that they > missed > > >> their fav TV show to attend it and NOT participate. > > >> > > >> I'm sure this is the way it has always been, but today it is even worse > > >> because we have all the lobby and research that says participation and > > >> oppenness is the way, and the government and funding bodies are > positioning > > >> their criteria for this, but the measures and accountability for > > >> participation and oppeness are not in place. As a result, millions of $ > are > > >> being awarded to some projects for people who are simply good at > wearing > > >> rhetoric without really changing their action. Their reports end up the > same > > >> camelion output. > > >> > > >> I hope all this ranting is trikiing a chord your end, because I am > seeing it > > >> more and more, and it is concerning me a great deal. > > >> > > >> So, your suggestion to get the grant and do it 'ourselves'. Would we do > it > > >> any better? Given that to get the grant we have to adopt both theirs > and our > > >> rhetoric AND be accountable to that? The projects I am a part of that > have > > >> that accountability involve so many compromises that its easy to lose > sight > > >> of what you were trying to do in the first place. > > >> > > >> How can we obtain resources and retain the freedom to act and react > quickly > > >> and spontaneously like we have done so all along? Is this what the US > > >> ideology of free markets and corporatism is trying to tell us? This > self > > >> organising principle based on a very simple funding arrangement of user > pays > > >> and demand... > > >> > > >> I'm starting to wonder off and become incoherent (if I'm not totally > that > > >> way already). > > >> > > >> In short, it seems that we ARE doing it already, and each of us > individually > > >> dragging our institutional blobs and resources along with us. I have > managed > > >> to position my job and its performance indicators so that my work with > > >> Wikieducator can be sustained. So in that way, the institution I am > working > > >> in is changing, and I have the freedom to act and react in that new > > >> framework. When I started, they would have had me work in their LMS. So > if > > >> we can get enough people doing that (positioning their job into this > Wikied > > >> utility web service), we might start seeing more sustained resources > into > > >> Wikieducator's participatory and open model, and the individual > freedoms > > >> with that. At the moment, I suspect that most people are simply > dabbling in > > >> Wikieducator and are doing so outside their job description and > performance > > >> indicators. > > >> > > >> So either things like WIkieducaor continue on that path and be patient, > CoL > > >> and other facilitators doing what they can to promote and develop it. > And/or > > >> we find a way that will suddenly tip the balance in a Google/Youtube > kind of > > >> way that involves us getting a large amount of money and working > outside our > > >> institutions with a very to subverting them... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > -- > Leigh Blackall > +64(0)21736539 > skype - leigh_blackall > SL - Leroy Goalpost > http://learnonline.wordpress.com > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. 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