Re: [Wikimania-l] Breakdown of attribution for scholarships

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2016-03-16 2:18 GMT+04:00 Ellie Young <eyo...@wikimedia.org>:

> Apologies for the delay in getting this info up (it’s been busy here with
> getting the awards made, registration system up, etc.)  Here is some
> information about the WMF Scholarship program (you can contact chapters
> directly who are giving scholarships out e.g., WMIT, WMIL, WMDE):
>
> Of the 401 applications that made it into Phase 2 of the review process,
> 124 total Scholarships were awarded (96 full and 24 partial).
>
> Geographic regions are not the emphasis of the program.   (We cannot
> provide a breakdown by country since it would  essentially be releasing
> personally identifying information about the scholarship recipients, which
> they haven’t agreed to.)
>
> The following page has  information on 2015 and preliminary 2016 outcomes
> (and we are updating this page as we go):
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:TPS/Wikimania_scholars/2015_Outcomes
>
> If people would like to suggest changes to the program, we suggest they
> leave comments on the Talk page of the above wiki, or email the Scholarship
> Committee directly at wikimania-scholarsh...@wikimedia.org
>
>
> Ellie Young, WMF Events Manager
>
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexf...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> I think Ellie mentions more information on this whole selection process
>> and whatnot will be put on the wikis soon.
>>
>> I'm sure they'll provide more insight into this whole discussion, helping
>> reducing the guesswork, I think.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, March 13, 2016, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Isaac,
>>>
>>> I mentioned the chapter scholarships, because they are distributed /on
>>> top of/ those distributed by the scholarships of the WMF. This is one of
>>> the reasons why the global north gets a lower percentage.
>>>
>>> I don't know if there /are/ formulae for distribution on a lower level
>>> than global north/global south. Maybe the country is less important than
>>> what the applicants bring to the conference, and what they expect to learn
>>> there.
>>>
>>> My point is, this is all guesswork - until we have actual data and more
>>> information.
>>>
>>> Lodewijk
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 11:05 PM, <reachout2is...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Lodewijk,
>>>>
>>>> You might be right but I don't see where it was published that
>>>> scholarships are actually distributed through chapters. Even if that's the
>>>> case, did Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, and the Middle
>>>> East have multiple chapters? Why did Wikimedia ZA got one full and one
>>>> partial scholarships? In what ratio were the scholarship shared? What is
>>>> the distribution formulae? Sincerely, the sharing formulae remain a mystery
>>>> to me.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Isaac
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
>>>> --
>>>> *From: * Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>
>>>> *Sender: * effeietsand...@gmail.com
>>>> *Date: *Sun, 13 Mar 2016 22:08:01 +0100
>>>> *To: *<reachout2is...@gmail.com>; Wikimania general list (open
>>>> subscription)<wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Wikimania-l] Breakdown of attribution for scholarships
>>>>
>>>> Hi Isaac,
>>>> running such statistics is always a bit tricky. You make lots of
>>>> assumptions. One being that the number of serious applications is
>>>> distributed in a certain way. As I understand it, the quality of the
>>>> application also plays a role, which can definitely impact distribution
>>>> between countries. Fact is, that there is right now simply not enough
>>>> information to draw conclusions.
>>>>
>>>> Also please note that many many scholarships are actually distributed
>>>> thr

Re: [Wikimania-l] Breakdown of attribution for scholarships

[Federico Leva (Nemo)]

Ellie Young, 15/03/2016 23:18:

Of the 401 applications that made it into Phase 2 of the review process,

[...] (We cannot
provide a breakdown by country [...])



We can however provide a breakdown of *applications* (phase 2) by region:

Africa  37
Arab States 30
Asia & Pacific  156
CIS 31
Europe  153
North America   33
South/Latin America 65

Nemo

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Breakdown of attribution for scholarships

[Ellie Young]

Apologies for the delay in getting this info up (it’s been busy here with
getting the awards made, registration system up, etc.)  Here is some
information about the WMF Scholarship program (you can contact chapters
directly who are giving scholarships out e.g., WMIT, WMIL, WMDE):

Of the 401 applications that made it into Phase 2 of the review process,
124 total Scholarships were awarded (96 full and 24 partial).

Geographic regions are not the emphasis of the program.   (We cannot
provide a breakdown by country since it would  essentially be releasing
personally identifying information about the scholarship recipients, which
they haven’t agreed to.)

The following page has  information on 2015 and preliminary 2016 outcomes
(and we are updating this page as we go):

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:TPS/Wikimania_scholars/2015_Outcomes

If people would like to suggest changes to the program, we suggest they
leave comments on the Talk page of the above wiki, or email the Scholarship
Committee directly at wikimania-scholarsh...@wikimedia.org


Ellie Young, WMF Events Manager

On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexf...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I think Ellie mentions more information on this whole selection process
> and whatnot will be put on the wikis soon.
>
> I'm sure they'll provide more insight into this whole discussion, helping
> reducing the guesswork, I think.
>
>
> On Sunday, March 13, 2016, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Isaac,
>>
>> I mentioned the chapter scholarships, because they are distributed /on
>> top of/ those distributed by the scholarships of the WMF. This is one of
>> the reasons why the global north gets a lower percentage.
>>
>> I don't know if there /are/ formulae for distribution on a lower level
>> than global north/global south. Maybe the country is less important than
>> what the applicants bring to the conference, and what they expect to learn
>> there.
>>
>> My point is, this is all guesswork - until we have actual data and more
>> information.
>>
>> Lodewijk
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 11:05 PM, <reachout2is...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Lodewijk,
>>>
>>> You might be right but I don't see where it was published that
>>> scholarships are actually distributed through chapters. Even if that's the
>>> case, did Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, and the Middle
>>> East have multiple chapters? Why did Wikimedia ZA got one full and one
>>> partial scholarships? In what ratio were the scholarship shared? What is
>>> the distribution formulae? Sincerely, the sharing formulae remain a mystery
>>> to me.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Isaac
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
>>> --
>>> *From: * Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>
>>> *Sender: * effeietsand...@gmail.com
>>> *Date: *Sun, 13 Mar 2016 22:08:01 +0100
>>> *To: *<reachout2is...@gmail.com>; Wikimania general list (open
>>> subscription)<wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Wikimania-l] Breakdown of attribution for scholarships
>>>
>>> Hi Isaac,
>>> running such statistics is always a bit tricky. You make lots of
>>> assumptions. One being that the number of serious applications is
>>> distributed in a certain way. As I understand it, the quality of the
>>> application also plays a role, which can definitely impact distribution
>>> between countries. Fact is, that there is right now simply not enough
>>> information to draw conclusions.
>>>
>>> Also please note that many many scholarships are actually distributed
>>> through chapters - which gives even an odder distribution across countries,
>>> letting applicants in some countries benefit over the fact that there is an
>>> active office in their country that can run a budget of sufficient size.
>>> Some chapters try to compensate for that by also allowing applicants from a
>>> selection of other countries (like Poland does). So for a real analysis,
>>> one should include all these too.
>>>
>>> Lodewijk
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 9:43 PM, <reachout2is...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> My understanding of Wikimania Scholarship program is that Full
>>>> scholarships are subject to quotas, while there is usually no geographical
>>>> or linguistic limit to partial scholarships.
>>>

Re: [Wikimania-l] Breakdown of attribution for scholarships

[Gnangarra]

Call me cynical

It doesnt matter what process is published now because that  process will
be adjusted to reflect what ever happened, thats neither fair nor
transparent.  Just the same as Montreal was chosen first and then we were
told the process was broken and needed to be changed. This appalling
process bypass occurred in discussions in Mexico City,  following outrage
at that a consultation appeared with a carefully chosen group, with a
carefully crafted questionnaire to ensure the outcome equals what was
decided earlier.

The process that started in Mexico City has created a situation where
scholarships not being awarded to communities is actually a concern as
being represented at Wikimania is now a critical part of being involved in
future decisions affecting the community.






On 14 March 2016 at 07:17, Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexf...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think Ellie mentions more information on this whole selection process
> and whatnot will be put on the wikis soon.
>
> I'm sure they'll provide more insight into this whole discussion, helping
> reducing the guesswork, I think.
>
>
> On Sunday, March 13, 2016, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Isaac,
>>
>> I mentioned the chapter scholarships, because they are distributed /on
>> top of/ those distributed by the scholarships of the WMF. This is one of
>> the reasons why the global north gets a lower percentage.
>>
>> I don't know if there /are/ formulae for distribution on a lower level
>> than global north/global south. Maybe the country is less important than
>> what the applicants bring to the conference, and what they expect to learn
>> there.
>>
>> My point is, this is all guesswork - until we have actual data and more
>> information.
>>
>> Lodewijk
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 11:05 PM, <reachout2is...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Lodewijk,
>>>
>>> You might be right but I don't see where it was published that
>>> scholarships are actually distributed through chapters. Even if that's the
>>> case, did Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, and the Middle
>>> East have multiple chapters? Why did Wikimedia ZA got one full and one
>>> partial scholarships? In what ratio were the scholarship shared? What is
>>> the distribution formulae? Sincerely, the sharing formulae remain a mystery
>>> to me.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Isaac
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
>>> --
>>> *From: * Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>
>>> *Sender: * effeietsand...@gmail.com
>>> *Date: *Sun, 13 Mar 2016 22:08:01 +0100
>>> *To: *<reachout2is...@gmail.com>; Wikimania general list (open
>>> subscription)<wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Wikimania-l] Breakdown of attribution for scholarships
>>>
>>> Hi Isaac,
>>> running such statistics is always a bit tricky. You make lots of
>>> assumptions. One being that the number of serious applications is
>>> distributed in a certain way. As I understand it, the quality of the
>>> application also plays a role, which can definitely impact distribution
>>> between countries. Fact is, that there is right now simply not enough
>>> information to draw conclusions.
>>>
>>> Also please note that many many scholarships are actually distributed
>>> through chapters - which gives even an odder distribution across countries,
>>> letting applicants in some countries benefit over the fact that there is an
>>> active office in their country that can run a budget of sufficient size.
>>> Some chapters try to compensate for that by also allowing applicants from a
>>> selection of other countries (like Poland does). So for a real analysis,
>>> one should include all these too.
>>>
>>> Lodewijk
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 9:43 PM, <reachout2is...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> My understanding of Wikimania Scholarship program is that Full
>>>> scholarships are subject to quotas, while there is usually no geographical
>>>> or linguistic limit to partial scholarships.
>>>> However, final approval for Full Scholarships is based on the
>>>> applicant's home country, each applicant will be categorized as either a
>>>> Global North or Global South applicant, with the total number of
>>>> scholarships distributed between the Global North

Re: [Wikimania-l] Breakdown of attribution for scholarships

[Nkansah Rexford]

I think Ellie mentions more information on this whole selection process and
whatnot will be put on the wikis soon.

I'm sure they'll provide more insight into this whole discussion, helping
reducing the guesswork, I think.

On Sunday, March 13, 2016, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> wrote:

> Hi Isaac,
>
> I mentioned the chapter scholarships, because they are distributed /on top
> of/ those distributed by the scholarships of the WMF. This is one of the
> reasons why the global north gets a lower percentage.
>
> I don't know if there /are/ formulae for distribution on a lower level
> than global north/global south. Maybe the country is less important than
> what the applicants bring to the conference, and what they expect to learn
> there.
>
> My point is, this is all guesswork - until we have actual data and more
> information.
>
> Lodewijk
>
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 11:05 PM, <reachout2is...@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','reachout2is...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Lodewijk,
>>
>> You might be right but I don't see where it was published that
>> scholarships are actually distributed through chapters. Even if that's the
>> case, did Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, and the Middle
>> East have multiple chapters? Why did Wikimedia ZA got one full and one
>> partial scholarships? In what ratio were the scholarship shared? What is
>> the distribution formulae? Sincerely, the sharing formulae remain a mystery
>> to me.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Isaac
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
>> --
>> *From: * Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lodew...@effeietsanders.org');>>
>> *Sender: * effeietsand...@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','effeietsand...@gmail.com');>
>> *Date: *Sun, 13 Mar 2016 22:08:01 +0100
>> *To: *<reachout2is...@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','reachout2is...@gmail.com');>>; Wikimania
>> general list (open subscription)<wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org');>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Wikimania-l] Breakdown of attribution for scholarships
>>
>> Hi Isaac,
>> running such statistics is always a bit tricky. You make lots of
>> assumptions. One being that the number of serious applications is
>> distributed in a certain way. As I understand it, the quality of the
>> application also plays a role, which can definitely impact distribution
>> between countries. Fact is, that there is right now simply not enough
>> information to draw conclusions.
>>
>> Also please note that many many scholarships are actually distributed
>> through chapters - which gives even an odder distribution across countries,
>> letting applicants in some countries benefit over the fact that there is an
>> active office in their country that can run a budget of sufficient size.
>> Some chapters try to compensate for that by also allowing applicants from a
>> selection of other countries (like Poland does). So for a real analysis,
>> one should include all these too.
>>
>> Lodewijk
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 9:43 PM, <reachout2is...@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','reachout2is...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> My understanding of Wikimania Scholarship program is that Full
>>> scholarships are subject to quotas, while there is usually no geographical
>>> or linguistic limit to partial scholarships.
>>> However, final approval for Full Scholarships is based on the
>>> applicant's home country, each applicant will be categorized as either a
>>> Global North or Global South applicant, with the total number of
>>> scholarships distributed between the Global North and Global South being
>>> set at 25% and 75% respectively.
>>>
>>> The Global South includes Asia (with the exception of Japan, Hong Kong,
>>> Macau, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan), Turkey, Central America, South
>>> America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East (with the exception of
>>> Israel). If 124 scholarship was awarded, and 75% is expected to be awarded
>>> for global south, it means, 93 Wikimedians are expected to get the
>>> scholarship from these region. Since global south consists of Turkey,
>>> Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East, then
>>> no fewer than 15 Wikimedians are expected to get scholarship from Africa

Re: [Wikimania-l] Breakdown of attribution for scholarships

[Lodewijk]

Hi Isaac,

I mentioned the chapter scholarships, because they are distributed /on top
of/ those distributed by the scholarships of the WMF. This is one of the
reasons why the global north gets a lower percentage.

I don't know if there /are/ formulae for distribution on a lower level than
global north/global south. Maybe the country is less important than what
the applicants bring to the conference, and what they expect to learn
there.

My point is, this is all guesswork - until we have actual data and more
information.

Lodewijk

On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 11:05 PM, <reachout2is...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Lodewijk,
>
> You might be right but I don't see where it was published that
> scholarships are actually distributed through chapters. Even if that's the
> case, did Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, and the Middle
> East have multiple chapters? Why did Wikimedia ZA got one full and one
> partial scholarships? In what ratio were the scholarship shared? What is
> the distribution formulae? Sincerely, the sharing formulae remain a mystery
> to me.
>
> Best,
>
> Isaac
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
> --
> *From: * Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>
> *Sender: * effeietsand...@gmail.com
> *Date: *Sun, 13 Mar 2016 22:08:01 +0100
> *To: *<reachout2is...@gmail.com>; Wikimania general list (open
> subscription)<wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Wikimania-l] Breakdown of attribution for scholarships
>
> Hi Isaac,
> running such statistics is always a bit tricky. You make lots of
> assumptions. One being that the number of serious applications is
> distributed in a certain way. As I understand it, the quality of the
> application also plays a role, which can definitely impact distribution
> between countries. Fact is, that there is right now simply not enough
> information to draw conclusions.
>
> Also please note that many many scholarships are actually distributed
> through chapters - which gives even an odder distribution across countries,
> letting applicants in some countries benefit over the fact that there is an
> active office in their country that can run a budget of sufficient size.
> Some chapters try to compensate for that by also allowing applicants from a
> selection of other countries (like Poland does). So for a real analysis,
> one should include all these too.
>
> Lodewijk
>
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 9:43 PM, <reachout2is...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> My understanding of Wikimania Scholarship program is that Full
>> scholarships are subject to quotas, while there is usually no geographical
>> or linguistic limit to partial scholarships.
>> However, final approval for Full Scholarships is based on the applicant's
>> home country, each applicant will be categorized as either a Global North
>> or Global South applicant, with the total number of scholarships
>> distributed between the Global North and Global South being set at 25% and
>> 75% respectively.
>>
>> The Global South includes Asia (with the exception of Japan, Hong Kong,
>> Macau, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan), Turkey, Central America, South
>> America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East (with the exception of
>> Israel). If 124 scholarship was awarded, and 75% is expected to be awarded
>> for global south, it means, 93 Wikimedians are expected to get the
>> scholarship from these region. Since global south consists of Turkey,
>> Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East, then
>> no fewer than 15 Wikimedians are expected to get scholarship from Africa.
>> Unless I'm missing something. If only 4 Wikimedians got scholarship from
>> Africa, where are the 89 scholarships?
>>
>> Warmest regards,
>>
>> Olatunde Isaac.
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexf...@gmail.com>
>> Sender: "Wikimania-l" <wikimania-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org>Date:
>> Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:28:48
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[reachout2isaac]

Hi Lodewijk,

You might be right but I don't see where it was published that scholarships are 
actually distributed through chapters. Even if that's the case, did Turkey, 
Central America, South America, Mexico, and the Middle East have multiple 
chapters? Why did Wikimedia ZA got one full and one partial scholarships? In 
what ratio were the scholarship shared? What is the distribution formulae? 
Sincerely, the sharing formulae remain a mystery to me. 

Best,

Isaac






Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.

-Original Message-
From: Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>
Sender: effeietsand...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 22:08:01 
To: <reachout2is...@gmail.com>; Wikimania general list (open 
subscription)<wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Breakdown of attribution for scholarships

Hi Isaac,
running such statistics is always a bit tricky. You make lots of
assumptions. One being that the number of serious applications is
distributed in a certain way. As I understand it, the quality of the
application also plays a role, which can definitely impact distribution
between countries. Fact is, that there is right now simply not enough
information to draw conclusions.

Also please note that many many scholarships are actually distributed
through chapters - which gives even an odder distribution across countries,
letting applicants in some countries benefit over the fact that there is an
active office in their country that can run a budget of sufficient size.
Some chapters try to compensate for that by also allowing applicants from a
selection of other countries (like Poland does). So for a real analysis,
one should include all these too.

Lodewijk

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 9:43 PM, <reachout2is...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> My understanding of Wikimania Scholarship program is that Full
> scholarships are subject to quotas, while there is usually no geographical
> or linguistic limit to partial scholarships.
> However, final approval for Full Scholarships is based on the applicant's
> home country, each applicant will be categorized as either a Global North
> or Global South applicant, with the total number of scholarships
> distributed between the Global North and Global South being set at 25% and
> 75% respectively.
>
> The Global South includes Asia (with the exception of Japan, Hong Kong,
> Macau, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan), Turkey, Central America, South
> America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East (with the exception of
> Israel). If 124 scholarship was awarded, and 75% is expected to be awarded
> for global south, it means, 93 Wikimedians are expected to get the
> scholarship from these region. Since global south consists of Turkey,
> Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East, then
> no fewer than 15 Wikimedians are expected to get scholarship from Africa.
> Unless I'm missing something. If only 4 Wikimedians got scholarship from
> Africa, where are the 89 scholarships?
>
> Warmest regards,
>
> Olatunde Isaac.
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexf...@gmail.com>
> Sender: "Wikimania-l" <wikimania-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org>Date: Fri,
> 11 Mar 2016 16:28:48
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> wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
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[Lodewijk]

Hi Isaac,
running such statistics is always a bit tricky. You make lots of
assumptions. One being that the number of serious applications is
distributed in a certain way. As I understand it, the quality of the
application also plays a role, which can definitely impact distribution
between countries. Fact is, that there is right now simply not enough
information to draw conclusions.

Also please note that many many scholarships are actually distributed
through chapters - which gives even an odder distribution across countries,
letting applicants in some countries benefit over the fact that there is an
active office in their country that can run a budget of sufficient size.
Some chapters try to compensate for that by also allowing applicants from a
selection of other countries (like Poland does). So for a real analysis,
one should include all these too.

Lodewijk

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 9:43 PM, <reachout2is...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> My understanding of Wikimania Scholarship program is that Full
> scholarships are subject to quotas, while there is usually no geographical
> or linguistic limit to partial scholarships.
> However, final approval for Full Scholarships is based on the applicant's
> home country, each applicant will be categorized as either a Global North
> or Global South applicant, with the total number of scholarships
> distributed between the Global North and Global South being set at 25% and
> 75% respectively.
>
> The Global South includes Asia (with the exception of Japan, Hong Kong,
> Macau, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan), Turkey, Central America, South
> America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East (with the exception of
> Israel). If 124 scholarship was awarded, and 75% is expected to be awarded
> for global south, it means, 93 Wikimedians are expected to get the
> scholarship from these region. Since global south consists of Turkey,
> Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East, then
> no fewer than 15 Wikimedians are expected to get scholarship from Africa.
> Unless I'm missing something. If only 4 Wikimedians got scholarship from
> Africa, where are the 89 scholarships?
>
> Warmest regards,
>
> Olatunde Isaac.
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
>
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[Frances Di Lauro]

Yes, thank you, I see it now. I thought it was geographical but it's about
development. 




 




On 12/03/2016 8:01 am, "reachout2is...@gmail.com"
<reachout2is...@gmail.com> wrote:

>I'm not sure this is correct, Frances Di Lauro. See:
>https://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_South
>
>Best,
>
>Isaac.
>Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Frances Di Lauro <frances.dila...@sydney.edu.au>
>Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 20:55:47
>To: reachout2is...@gmail.com<reachout2is...@gmail.com>; Wikimania general
>list (open subscription)<wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Breakdown of attribution for scholarships
>
>PS
>The global south also includes Australia (so big and yet so seemingly
>insignificant), New Zealand, Melanesia, Micronesia, Polynesia Š
>
>Regards
>Frances
> 
>
>
>
>
>On 12/03/2016 7:43 am, "Wikimania-l on behalf of reachout2is...@gmail.com"
><wikimania-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of
>reachout2is...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>My understanding of Wikimania Scholarship program is that Full
>>scholarships are subject to quotas, while there is usually no
>>geographical or linguistic limit to partial scholarships.
>>However, final approval for Full Scholarships is based on the applicant's
>>home country, each applicant will be categorized as either a Global North
>>or Global South applicant, with the total number of scholarships
>>distributed between the Global North and Global South being set at 25%
>>and 75% respectively.
>>
>>The Global South includes Asia (with the exception of Japan, Hong Kong,
>>Macau, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan), Turkey, Central America, South
>>America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East (with the exception of
>>Israel). If 124 scholarship was awarded, and 75% is expected to be
>>awarded for global south, it means, 93 Wikimedians are expected to get
>>the scholarship from these region. Since global south consists of Turkey,
>>Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East, then
>>no fewer than 15 Wikimedians are expected to get scholarship from Africa.
>>Unless I'm missing something. If only 4 Wikimedians got scholarship from
>>Africa, where are the 89 scholarships?
>>
>>Warmest regards,
>>
>>Olatunde Isaac.
>>Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexf...@gmail.com>
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[Pharos]

Antarctica is in the Global South?  It's probably the wealthiest continent
per capita, especially if you count krill.

Thanks,
Pharos

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Frances Di Lauro <
> frances.dila...@sydney.edu.au> wrote:
>
>> PS
>> The global south also includes Australia (so big and yet so seemingly
>> insignificant), New Zealand, Melanesia, Micronesia, Polynesia Š
>>
>
> That is incorrect.  The definition used so far by the Wikimedia
> Foundation, and specifically in the context of the scholarships, is listed
> here:
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_regional_classification
>
> (I will soon be publishing a different -- and I think more appropriate to
> the Wikimedian context -- distinction, but for now, the above is the
> definition used by WMF.)
>
>A.
> --
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[reachout2isaac]

I'm not sure this is correct, Frances Di Lauro. See: 
https://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_South

Best,

Isaac.
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From: Frances Di Lauro <frances.dila...@sydney.edu.au>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 20:55:47 
To: reachout2is...@gmail.com<reachout2is...@gmail.com>; Wikimania general list 
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PS
The global south also includes Australia (so big and yet so seemingly
insignificant), New Zealand, Melanesia, Micronesia, Polynesia Š

Regards
Frances
 




On 12/03/2016 7:43 am, "Wikimania-l on behalf of reachout2is...@gmail.com"
<wikimania-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of
reachout2is...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>My understanding of Wikimania Scholarship program is that Full
>scholarships are subject to quotas, while there is usually no
>geographical or linguistic limit to partial scholarships.
>However, final approval for Full Scholarships is based on the applicant's
>home country, each applicant will be categorized as either a Global North
>or Global South applicant, with the total number of scholarships
>distributed between the Global North and Global South being set at 25%
>and 75% respectively.
>
>The Global South includes Asia (with the exception of Japan, Hong Kong,
>Macau, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan), Turkey, Central America, South
>America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East (with the exception of
>Israel). If 124 scholarship was awarded, and 75% is expected to be
>awarded for global south, it means, 93 Wikimedians are expected to get
>the scholarship from these region. Since global south consists of Turkey,
>Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East, then
>no fewer than 15 Wikimedians are expected to get scholarship from Africa.
>Unless I'm missing something. If only 4 Wikimedians got scholarship from
>Africa, where are the 89 scholarships?
>
>Warmest regards,
>
>Olatunde Isaac.
>Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
>
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[Asaf Bartov]

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Frances Di Lauro <
frances.dila...@sydney.edu.au> wrote:

> PS
> The global south also includes Australia (so big and yet so seemingly
> insignificant), New Zealand, Melanesia, Micronesia, Polynesia Š
>

That is incorrect.  The definition used so far by the Wikimedia Foundation,
and specifically in the context of the scholarships, is listed here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_regional_classification

(I will soon be publishing a different -- and I think more appropriate to
the Wikimedian context -- distinction, but for now, the above is the
definition used by WMF.)

   A.
-- 
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[Frances Di Lauro]

PS
The global south also includes Australia (so big and yet so seemingly
insignificant), New Zealand, Melanesia, Micronesia, Polynesia Š

Regards
Frances
 




On 12/03/2016 7:43 am, "Wikimania-l on behalf of reachout2is...@gmail.com"
<wikimania-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of
reachout2is...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>My understanding of Wikimania Scholarship program is that Full
>scholarships are subject to quotas, while there is usually no
>geographical or linguistic limit to partial scholarships.
>However, final approval for Full Scholarships is based on the applicant's
>home country, each applicant will be categorized as either a Global North
>or Global South applicant, with the total number of scholarships
>distributed between the Global North and Global South being set at 25%
>and 75% respectively.
>
>The Global South includes Asia (with the exception of Japan, Hong Kong,
>Macau, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan), Turkey, Central America, South
>America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East (with the exception of
>Israel). If 124 scholarship was awarded, and 75% is expected to be
>awarded for global south, it means, 93 Wikimedians are expected to get
>the scholarship from these region. Since global south consists of Turkey,
>Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East, then
>no fewer than 15 Wikimedians are expected to get scholarship from Africa.
>Unless I'm missing something. If only 4 Wikimedians got scholarship from
>Africa, where are the 89 scholarships?
>
>Warmest regards,
>
>Olatunde Isaac.
>Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
>
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[reachout2isaac]

My understanding of Wikimania Scholarship program is that Full scholarships are 
subject to quotas, while there is usually no geographical or linguistic limit 
to partial scholarships.
However, final approval for Full Scholarships is based on the applicant's home 
country, each applicant will be categorized as either a Global North or Global 
South applicant, with the total number of scholarships distributed between the 
Global North and Global South being set at 25% and 75% respectively.

The Global South includes Asia (with the exception of Japan, Hong Kong, Macau, 
Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan), Turkey, Central America, South America, 
Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East (with the exception of Israel). If 124 
scholarship was awarded, and 75% is expected to be awarded for global south, it 
means, 93 Wikimedians are expected to get the scholarship from these region. 
Since global south consists of Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, 
Africa, and the Middle East, then no fewer than 15 Wikimedians are expected to 
get scholarship from Africa. Unless I'm missing something. If only 4 
Wikimedians got scholarship from Africa, where are the 89 scholarships? 

Warmest regards,

Olatunde Isaac.
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.

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[Nkansah Rexford]

I think what we're looking for is probably not online yet.

I've personally gone following these values and trying to get a tally for
them. It was a dead end. I thought maybe my search-fu skills weren't good
so didn't bother.

That 75% nicely phrased sentence probably has been in every year's criteria
outline, BUT, I doubt it's ever been met.

The global south that gets more percentage on paper, but smaller percentage
in reality, kinda awesome!

Perhaps, there's not been enough applicants to exhaust such a percentage.
On the other hand, many Africans probably did or do apply, but duh, it's
hard to know the applied:accepted ratio in union with the holy grail 75%.

I tried getting deeper into the actual figures some 3 or 4 years or so ago,
and I ended up stopping.

And has there ever been any official explanation relating to such values?
As in, if the 75% is not met, is there any document explaining what
happened?

I've gone down this witch-hunt road before and I came back with nothing but
sore eyes and weakened muscles. It's a long stretch.

It's Wikimania, isn't it? 
On 11 Mar 2016 4:07 pm, "Florence Devouard"  wrote:

> Thanks for pointing out that the reporting about Wikimania tends to be...
> full of holes :)
>
> Digging, I found this:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:TPS/Wikimania_scholars/2015_Outcomes
>
> Which is... well... incomplete.
>
> And the category
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimania_scholarships
> is obviously... not complete either.
>
> So, rephrasing
>
> I would find interesting to know which countries were attributed the
> scholarships in 2016.
>
> And I would find interesting to see the 2015 report completed as well :)
>
> Flo
>
>
> Le 11/03/16 16:31, Nkansah Rexford a écrit :
>
>> Unless there's something I'm missing or these percentages haven't been
>> same for previous years, but has the 75% ever been fulfilled before?
>>
>> On Friday, March 11, 2016, Florence Devouard > > wrote:
>>
>> I would like to see a breakdown of scholarships attributed per
>> countries.
>>
>>
>> My memory was that WMF was aiming to support 75% from Global South
>> and 25% from Global North. However, I can not find track of that
>> information on the scholarship page :
>>
>> * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania/Scholarships/2016 which
>> refers, in terms of goals to
>> *
>>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania/Scholarships/SWOT_2005-2014_and_goals_for_2015
>>
>> If the goal is 75% of Global South... given that Africa got 2%, I
>> would find interesting to know which countries were attributed the
>> 73% left.
>>
>> Florence
>>
>>
>> PS: transparency... right ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 11/03/16 16:01, reachout2is...@gmail.com a écrit :
>>
>> Nkansah Rexford, I have no idea of why you directed such a
>> non-sequitur
>> comment to me. Regrettably, your tone is condescending with lack
>> of
>> empathy. Everyone have the right to voice their concerns and
>> you're not
>> in the best position to criticize them. That being said, Nobody
>> begged
>> for Wikimania scholarship but we have the right as a community
>> to raise
>> concern on certain issues and that is none of your business.
>> You're
>> neither a chair of the scholarship committee nor the Wikimedia
>> Foundation Events Manager. You are not in the best position to
>> respond
>> to this. It is always a good idea to learn to be reserved.
>>
>> I don't like to say you're crude and rude but kindly have the
>> decency to
>> be polite when addressing your fellow Wikipedians.
>>
>> Warmest regards,
>>
>> Olatunde Isaac.
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
>>
>> 
>> *From: * Nkansah Rexford 
>> *Date: *Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:30:07 +
>> *To: *; Wikimania general list (open
>> subscription)
>> *Subject: *Re: [Wikimania-l] Community Village and Meetups at
>> Wikimania 2016
>>
>> The scholarships are what they are: scholarships, not ticket to
>> heaven.
>>
>> Many factors go into approving an application for scholarships.
>> Plus,
>> hundreds if not thousands apply for the scholarships every year.
>> NOT
>> everyone can be accepted. Neither will everyone be rejected.
>>
>> Some will need to go this year. Others will have to wait on the
>> turn
>> (assuming they check all the application requirement boxes)
>> Unfortunately, this year, Nigeria couldn't win a scholarship slot.
>> That's unfortunate but NOT demoralising, I think. It's not 

Re: [Wikimania-l] Breakdown of attribution for scholarships

[Florence Devouard]

Thanks for pointing out that the reporting about Wikimania tends to 
be... full of holes :)


Digging, I found this: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:TPS/Wikimania_scholars/2015_Outcomes


Which is... well... incomplete.

And the category
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimania_scholarships
is obviously... not complete either.

So, rephrasing

I would find interesting to know which countries were attributed the 
scholarships in 2016.


And I would find interesting to see the 2015 report completed as well :)

Flo


Le 11/03/16 16:31, Nkansah Rexford a écrit :

Unless there's something I'm missing or these percentages haven't been
same for previous years, but has the 75% ever been fulfilled before?

On Friday, March 11, 2016, Florence Devouard > wrote:

I would like to see a breakdown of scholarships attributed per
countries.


My memory was that WMF was aiming to support 75% from Global South
and 25% from Global North. However, I can not find track of that
information on the scholarship page :

* https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania/Scholarships/2016 which
refers, in terms of goals to
*

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania/Scholarships/SWOT_2005-2014_and_goals_for_2015

If the goal is 75% of Global South... given that Africa got 2%, I
would find interesting to know which countries were attributed the
73% left.

Florence


PS: transparency... right ?





Le 11/03/16 16:01, reachout2is...@gmail.com a écrit :

Nkansah Rexford, I have no idea of why you directed such a
non-sequitur
comment to me. Regrettably, your tone is condescending with lack of
empathy. Everyone have the right to voice their concerns and
you're not
in the best position to criticize them. That being said, Nobody
begged
for Wikimania scholarship but we have the right as a community
to raise
concern on certain issues and that is none of your business. You're
neither a chair of the scholarship committee nor the Wikimedia
Foundation Events Manager. You are not in the best position to
respond
to this. It is always a good idea to learn to be reserved.

I don't like to say you're crude and rude but kindly have the
decency to
be polite when addressing your fellow Wikipedians.

Warmest regards,

Olatunde Isaac.

Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.

*From: * Nkansah Rexford 
*Date: *Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:30:07 +
*To: *; Wikimania general list (open
subscription)
*Subject: *Re: [Wikimania-l] Community Village and Meetups at
Wikimania 2016

The scholarships are what they are: scholarships, not ticket to
heaven.

Many factors go into approving an application for scholarships.
Plus,
hundreds if not thousands apply for the scholarships every year. NOT
everyone can be accepted. Neither will everyone be rejected.

Some will need to go this year. Others will have to wait on the turn
(assuming they check all the application requirement boxes)
Unfortunately, this year, Nigeria couldn't win a scholarship slot.
That's unfortunate but NOT demoralising, I think. It's not as if
anyone
promised you a scholarship...

To say it's 'demoralising' is a strong word to use here. How is it
demoralising? No one has guaranteed anyone of a scholarship
should they
edit Wikipedia or not.

If because you didn't get the scholarship, and you think that's
demoralising and wish to stop contributing to Wikipedia, that's
in your
hands. However, such an approach will defeat the whole purpose
behind
contributing to Wikipedia.

We don't contribute to Wikipedia because we want scholarship.
Rather,
it's primarily for the love of contributing to the freeness and
openness
of knowledge globally.

Nigeria isn't the only country in the world, nor the country
without a
representation this year at wikimania. That doesn't mean a country
representing is better than Nigeria. It simply means, there're fewer
slots than the scholarship grant can handle.

Forget about demoralisation! Help improve knowledge freely and
openly. I
find that to be of more concern than anything at the moment.

I'll recommend we work on meeting the application criteria from now
until next year and hope to be called for scholarship. Even if then
we're still not called, keep making the world a better 

Re: [Wikimania-l] Breakdown of attribution for scholarships

[Nkansah Rexford]

Unless there's something I'm missing or these percentages haven't been same
for previous years, but has the 75% ever been fulfilled before?

On Friday, March 11, 2016, Florence Devouard  wrote:

> I would like to see a breakdown of scholarships attributed per countries.
>
>
> My memory was that WMF was aiming to support 75% from Global South and 25%
> from Global North. However, I can not find track of that information on the
> scholarship page :
>
> * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania/Scholarships/2016 which
> refers, in terms of goals to
> *
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania/Scholarships/SWOT_2005-2014_and_goals_for_2015
>
> If the goal is 75% of Global South... given that Africa got 2%, I would
> find interesting to know which countries were attributed the 73% left.
>
> Florence
>
>
> PS: transparency... right ?
>
>
>
>
>
> Le 11/03/16 16:01, reachout2is...@gmail.com a écrit :
>
>> Nkansah Rexford, I have no idea of why you directed such a non-sequitur
>> comment to me. Regrettably, your tone is condescending with lack of
>> empathy. Everyone have the right to voice their concerns and you're not
>> in the best position to criticize them. That being said, Nobody begged
>> for Wikimania scholarship but we have the right as a community to raise
>> concern on certain issues and that is none of your business. You're
>> neither a chair of the scholarship committee nor the Wikimedia
>> Foundation Events Manager. You are not in the best position to respond
>> to this. It is always a good idea to learn to be reserved.
>>
>> I don't like to say you're crude and rude but kindly have the decency to
>> be polite when addressing your fellow Wikipedians.
>>
>> Warmest regards,
>>
>> Olatunde Isaac.
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
>> 
>> *From: * Nkansah Rexford 
>> *Date: *Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:30:07 +
>> *To: *; Wikimania general list (open
>> subscription)
>> *Subject: *Re: [Wikimania-l] Community Village and Meetups at Wikimania
>> 2016
>>
>> The scholarships are what they are: scholarships, not ticket to heaven.
>>
>> Many factors go into approving an application for scholarships. Plus,
>> hundreds if not thousands apply for the scholarships every year. NOT
>> everyone can be accepted. Neither will everyone be rejected.
>>
>> Some will need to go this year. Others will have to wait on the turn
>> (assuming they check all the application requirement boxes)
>> Unfortunately, this year, Nigeria couldn't win a scholarship slot.
>> That's unfortunate but NOT demoralising, I think. It's not as if anyone
>> promised you a scholarship...
>>
>> To say it's 'demoralising' is a strong word to use here. How is it
>> demoralising? No one has guaranteed anyone of a scholarship should they
>> edit Wikipedia or not.
>>
>> If because you didn't get the scholarship, and you think that's
>> demoralising and wish to stop contributing to Wikipedia, that's in your
>> hands. However, such an approach will defeat the whole purpose behind
>> contributing to Wikipedia.
>>
>> We don't contribute to Wikipedia because we want scholarship. Rather,
>> it's primarily for the love of contributing to the freeness and openness
>> of knowledge globally.
>>
>> Nigeria isn't the only country in the world, nor the country without a
>> representation this year at wikimania. That doesn't mean a country
>> representing is better than Nigeria. It simply means, there're fewer
>> slots than the scholarship grant can handle.
>>
>> Forget about demoralisation! Help improve knowledge freely and openly. I
>> find that to be of more concern than anything at the moment.
>>
>> I'll recommend we work on meeting the application criteria from now
>> until next year and hope to be called for scholarship. Even if then
>> we're still not called, keep making the world a better place with free
>> knowledge.
>>
>> Hi Ginevra,
>>
>> No scholarship was awarded to any member of the Wikimedia User Group
>> Nigeria. This is worrisome as Nigeria will not be represented at
>> Wikimania. I don't think this is a good idea and I wonder why American
>> and European countries have more representative than Africa. This is
>> demoralizing and the community is not happy about it.
>>
>> Warmest regards,
>>
>> Olatunde Isaac,
>> Manager, Wikipedia Education Program Nigeria
>> Coordinator, The Wikipedia Library, Yoruba.
>> Secretary, Wikimedia User Group Nigeria.
>> Phone: +2348166620737
>> Email: reachout2is...@gmail.com 
>> User page: Wikicology
>> Facebook: Olatunde Olalekan Isaac.
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Ginevra Sanvitale > >
>> Sender: "Wikimania-l"