Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [WikiEN-l] access to journals
On 9/24/13 10:13 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 24 September 2013 14:06, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: I'm now working for the National Library of Australia and we offer free, at home, access to JSTOR and MANY other restricted access databases to any Australian, if they get a free library card. Is this unique to Australia? My free library subscription in Birmingham, England, gets me access - from home or indeed anywhere else - to a number of otherwise-paywalled online databases and services http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/libsubs. In Denmark, and I believe most of the USA, the norm is only on-site access to subscriptions, for the general public. University-affiliated researchers do have the option to login remotely, or VPN in to get an institutional IP address offsite. But the general public has to use library computers to access the subscriptions, or (in some cases) their own computers on the library WiFi. -Mark ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] [Reminder] Language Engineering IRC Office hour on September 25, 2013 at 1700 UTC
Hello, This is reminder that the Wikimedia Language Engineering team will be hosting an IRC office hour from 1700 to 1800UTC later today on #wikimedia-office (FreeNode). Please see below for the event details. Thanks Runa === Event Details === What: WMF Language Engineering Office hour When: September 25, 2013 (Wednesday). 1700-1800 UTC http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20130925T1700 Where: IRC Channel #wikimedia-office on FreeNode -- Forwarded message -- From: Runa Bhattacharjee rbhattachar...@wikimedia.org Date: Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 12:49 AM Subject: Language Engineering IRC Office hour on September 25, 2013 at 1700 UTC To: Wikimedia developers wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org, Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, wikitech-ambassad...@lists.wikimedia.org, MediaWiki internationalisation mediawiki-i...@lists.wikimedia.org [Cross-posted] Hello, The Wikimedia Language Engineering team will be hosting an IRC office hour on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 between 17:00 - 18:00 UTC. (See below for timezone conversion and other details.) We will be talking about some of our projects that are in development, a short round up from Google Summer of Code and then taking questions for the remaining time. If there are things that you would like to bring to our attention then this would be a good time to do so. Questions can also be sent to me directly before the event. See you there! Thanks Runa === Event Details === What: WMF Language Engineering Office hour When: September 25, 2013 (Wednesday). 1700-1800 UTC http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20130925T1700 Where: IRC Channel #wikimedia-office on FreeNode -- Language Engineering - Outreach and QA Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA
I disagree that this is simply political. It is very much a culture of ownership -- and a corporate one at that -- being instituted earlier to American kids. If you remember, it was exactly this problem that inspired Lawrence Lessig to start Creative Commons in the first place. He observed that there was a critical inflection point -- when kids are first taught to share and cooperate and then are flipped to hoard and restrict. This amplifies hoarding and restricting at the same time kids are taught to share. I'm glad I moved out of California before this propaganda was introduced to my kids. -Andrew On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: What exactly does this have to do with the WMF? Just because we encourage open sharing of data doesn't mean we need to comment on every political debate that shows up on the news. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:21 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 September 2013 17:42, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/09/mpaa-school-propaganda/ “This thinly disguised corporate propaganda is inaccurate and inappropriate,” says Mitch Stoltz, an intellectual property attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation, who reviewed the material at WIRED’s request. “It suggests, falsely, that ideas are property and that building on others’ ideas always requires permission,” Stoltz says. “The overriding message of this curriculum is that students’ time should be consumed not in creating but in worrying about their impact on corporate profits.” I suggest we see if WMF commenting, possibly in a blog post or similar, would help avert such anti-sharing foolishness. - d. Might not be a great idea Its an improvement on previous attempts (to start with It doesn't appear to violate the GFDL) and we would actually benefit from our uploaders having a working knowledge of copyright. Knowing all the exceptions is something best left to more experienced users. -- geni ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] What makes a good small (tech) project
Sometimes I see Wikimedians mention Google Summer of Code when they want to find someone to work on a code project. (Example: [0]) This makes sense sometimes. If you think your idea might be a good project for a student -- or you want help to make it that -- please do put it on the possible projects page, and Quim or others will help you refine it.[1] Now's a good time to do that, so that Outreach Program for Women applicants can consider your idea when they apply for the January-March round. For the three-month programming internships, such as GSoC and some OPW projects, we have to cut down how much they try to do, to make sure it gets done and gets onto the site. So sometimes we'll need to take only the simplest part of your idea and turn it into the project idea. But the only way we can help you get some of your idea made is if we hear about it! So if you have the seed of an idea, please go ahead and put it on the possible projects page[1] instead of just saying to yourself oh it sounds way too big. Also, check out what some past Outreach Program for Women interns have done.[2] Maybe your community could use help in systems administration, marketing, template-making, writing automated tests, or other work that GSoC won't let us have as a GSoC project. [0] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2013-March/thread.html#9626 [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects [2] https://wiki.gnome.org/OutreachProgramForWomen#Previous_Participants -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation P.S. After this email, I'm unsubscribing from the wikimedia-l list as I prepare for my sabbatical, which starts this weekend - more info at http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-August/071542.html . If you need to talk about Wikimedia technical community stuff or communication before January, please consult Quim Gil, qgil at wikimedia dot org, or Guillaume Paumier, gpaumier at wikimedia dot org. Thanks! Looking forward to coming back in January. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: FOSDEM update
Hi, just a heads up about http://fosdem.org - Brussels 1 2 Feb 2014. One of the biggest and coolest grassroots open source events in the World - and the main one in Europe. European orgs and individuals loving software freedom: Wikimedia wants to have a stand. Let's do something cool! Get involved. Discussion better at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Events/FOSDEM or wikitech-l. Thank you! PS: read below Original Message Subject: FOSDEM update Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 10:39:58 -0700 From: Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org To: Wikimedia developers wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org Hi, about FOSDEM - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Events/FOSDEM Brussels / 1 2 February 2014 On 1 Oct we will know whether our proposal for a Wiki DevRoom has been accepted or not. This is a DevRoom we have proposed together with XWiki and TikiWiki and is open to all wiki topics. If we we get it accepted we will organize a call for participation for this DevRoom. The call for main track session proposals is open until 1 Oct. https://fosdem.org/2014/news/2013-08-06-call-for-participation/ ... and the call for lightning talks and stands is open until 20 Nov. https://fosdem.org/2014/news/2013-09-17-call-for-participation-part-two/ You are encouraged to submit lightning talk proposals! Don worry if you are unsure between submitting a session for a lightning talk or a devroom: you can contact both and then they suggest you what to do. Wikimedia wants to have a stand, and we have received an offer to help from the nascent Wikimedia Belgium chapter. Probably more help can be aggregated from CH, DE, FR, NL, UK + other tech contributors in the region? Let's do something really cool! To be discussed. -- Quim Gil Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA
It has something to do with countering falsehoods and educating folks about the full range of content rights. Their 2nd grade materials state: Property comes in many forms: when we buy a book, we own that book. It’s our property, but we don’t own the right to reproduce that book and then sell it or give it away. That’s stealing. Um, no. A Creative Commons SA book, a public domain work or expired copyright work can indeed be reproduced. And it's not stealing. We are careful to acknowledge the work of authors and creators and respect their ownership. We recognize that it’s hard work to produce something, and we want to get paid for our work. No, not all people want to get paid for their work. I'd be OK if they simply gave some space in the training materials to talk about public domain, free licenses and fair use. That's not likely to happen given who's in control of those lesson plans. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: I disagree that this is simply political. This doesn't answer my original question. What does this have to do with WMF? Wikipedia does not own any public schools in California, nor will Wikipedia be affected by this curriculum should it be implemented. The only similarity is that is has something to do with knowledge, which is extremely vague. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: I'd be OK if they simply gave some space in the training materials to talk about public domain, free licenses and fair use. That's not likely to happen given who's in control of those lesson plans. You're still just arguing about the correctness of the material. I agree that this curriculum is stupid and misleading, but that doesn't explain why the WMF should care enough to make a statement, or even continue discussion, about it. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA
The California school system is the back yard (actually front yard) of both Wikimedia Foundation and Creative Commons. From the message on the web site, the WMF is a nonprofit charitable organization dedicated to encouraging the growth, development and distribution of free, multilingual, educational content, and to providing the full content of these wiki-based projects to the public free of charge. Inside a California public school, the WMF should indeed have an interest in making sure that students using Wikipedia don't think to themselves that using such material is stealing and that someone is expecting to be paid. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: I'd be OK if they simply gave some space in the training materials to talk about public domain, free licenses and fair use. That's not likely to happen given who's in control of those lesson plans. You're still just arguing about the correctness of the material. I agree that this curriculum is stupid and misleading, but that doesn't explain why the WMF should care enough to make a statement, or even continue discussion, about it. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: You are right, that the lack of a national US chapter holds us back. The obvious solution is to create a new group: Committee of Wikipedian Parents Interested in Education, aka COWPIE I feel like I'm obligated to make some kind of COWPIE/WALRUS related joke here but I can't come up with one yet. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 9:42 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/09/mpaa-school-propaganda/ [...] I suggest we see if WMF commenting, possibly in a blog post or similar, would help avert such anti-sharing foolishness I doubt it would avert it, though pointing it out might at least draw attention. I agree with the comment that it's a ridiculous idea to introduce in elementary school (and I would be surprised if it did not simply die on its own, along with many actual good ideas for curriculum supplementation that simply can't be packed in to the school day). Creative Commons now has a blog post up from Jane Park, criticizing the program and pointing out the alternatives that exist: https://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/39781 (I am reminded of the clever If you don't talk to your children about copyright, who will?, also available in bumper-sticker format: http://questioncopyright.com/qco-stk-chld.html ) -Kat -- Your donations keep Wikipedia free: https://donate.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA
On 25 September 2013 19:33, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: It has something to do with countering falsehoods and educating folks about the full range of content rights. Their 2nd grade materials state: Property comes in many forms: when we buy a book, we own that book. It’s our property, but we don’t own the right to reproduce that book and then sell it or give it away. That’s stealing. Um, no. A Creative Commons SA book, The course covers creative commons. a public domain work or expired copyright work can indeed be reproduced. And it's not stealing. Varies. what can catch you out there is that it may be possible to copyright typography (in the UK that copyright lasts for 20 years). geni ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
