Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Survey: What do you think of our social media feeds?
On 28 May 2015 at 20:57, Fabrice Florin fflo...@wikimedia.org wrote: If so, we’d love to hear what you think of our social media feeds. I've completed the survey, but there was nowhere to give general feedback. I wanted to point out that the idea of social media cards presents accessibility barriers to people with visual impairment (and to people with images disabled, for example to conserve bandwidth). Please post text, not pictures of text. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16
It does make sense to me that there would be at least a month between publication of the full draft plan, including the documentation that requested, and the closure of the comment period. In its current form the plan is too vague for me to support it as written. I think that the WMF audit committee or the WMF Board might be in a better position than the FDC to do a thorough review of the plan, including holding public Hangout meetings in which the plan is discussed, much like how government legislative bodies review proposed budgets in public. This would increase public confidence in the quality of the plan. Regards, Pine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Survey: What do you think of our social media feeds?
Hi folks, Do you follow Wikipedia or Wikimedia on Facebook, Twitter or Google+? If so, we’d love to hear what you think of our social media feeds. Could you please take this short survey? https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/wikimedia-social?c=email-ann The survey is open to anyone. We plan to post survey results by the end of June. We look forward to improving our social media feeds based on your feedback! Best regards, Fabrice P.S.: If you are not familiar with our social media feeds, we invite you to check them out before you take the survey: • Wikipedia on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/wikipedia • Wikipedia on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Wikipedia • Wikipedia on Google+: https://plus.google.com/+Wikipedia/posts • Wikimedia on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Wikimedia • Wikimedia Foundation on Google+: https://plus.google.com/108193079736330787108/posts ___ Fabrice Florin Movement Communications Manager Wikimedia Foundation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF) ___ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia community. For more information about Wikimedia-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] comments on Annual Plan
Hoi, Simple English sure and what about all the other languages ? Thanks, GerardM On 28 May 2015 at 16:52, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_Plan/2015-16#Engineering Will key quality metrics for reading include accuracy of articles on the Simple English Wikipedia? To that end, will the Wikimedia Foundation please take over this project in full as stated here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2015-May/031684.html I have a new contract through the end of the year and will be unable to devote the time I had planned. Thank you. Best regards, James Salsman ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of North Carolina Triangle Wikipedians User Group
Awesome news!! Sydney Sydney Poore User:FloNight Wikipedian in Residence at Cochrane Collaboration On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve wrote: Dear all, On behalf of the Affiliations Committee, I am honored to announce the recognition [1] of a new User Group in the United States - the North Carolina Triangle Wikipedians. As their name implies, they are mostly active in the region known as the Research Triangle, or simply The Triangle. They have already organized activities in the region, especially at Duke and UNC related to MediaWiki, edit-a-thons and the Education Program. We'll see more of that in the near future :-) So please, let's welcome the newest member of the family of affiliates! Congrats! Regards, Carlos 1: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/North_Carolina_Triangle_Wikipedians_User_Group_-_Liaison_approval,_May_2015 -- *Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain. Carlos M. Colina Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | www.wikimedia.org.ve http://wikimedia.org.ve Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee Phone: +972-52-4869915 Twitter: @maor_x ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of North Carolina Triangle Wikipedians User Group
Congratulations and welcome North Carolina Triangle Wikipedians! Regards, Tanweer Morshed Wikimedia Bangladesh On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:16 AM, David Cuenca Tudela dacu...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations, new user group members! On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve wrote: Dear all, On behalf of the Affiliations Committee, I am honored to announce the recognition [1] of a new User Group in the United States - the North Carolina Triangle Wikipedians. As their name implies, they are mostly active in the region known as the Research Triangle, or simply The Triangle. They have already organized activities in the region, especially at Duke and UNC related to MediaWiki, edit-a-thons and the Education Program. We'll see more of that in the near future :-) So please, let's welcome the newest member of the family of affiliates! Congrats! Regards, Carlos 1: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/North_Carolina_Triangle_Wikipedians_User_Group_-_Liaison_approval,_May_2015 -- *Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain. Carlos M. Colina Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | www.wikimedia.org.ve http://wikimedia.org.ve Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee Phone: +972-52-4869915 Twitter: @maor_x ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Etiamsi omnes, ego non ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Regards, Tanweer Morshed ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of North Carolina Triangle Wikipedians User Group
Wikimedia user groups are required to have a wiki page of some sort. The NC group is listed on the main affiliates page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_affiliates Here is a direct link to their page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Groups/North_Carolina_Triangle_Wikipedians -greg ___ Sent from my iPhone - a more detailed response may be sent later. On May 28, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Jason Moore anotherbelieve...@gmail.com wrote: Congrats! Does the group have a page at Meta? I was going to update some of the US-related pages and navboxes/templates to reflect this change, but I'm not finding much about the North Carolina Triangle Wikipedians User Group. Jason On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Frodo Baggins frodobaggins...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome I am from nc as well - Frodo Baggins: Hobbit, Wikipedia editor (blackhat999 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Blackhat999), Linux freak, and hacker extraordinaire. On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Raymond Leonard raymond.f.leonard...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations and welcome! Yours, Peaceray Cascadia Wikimedians User Group On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve wrote: Dear all, On behalf of the Affiliations Committee, I am honored to announce the recognition [1] of a new User Group in the United States - the North Carolina Triangle Wikipedians. As their name implies, they are mostly active in the region known as the Research Triangle, or simply The Triangle. They have already organized activities in the region, especially at Duke and UNC related to MediaWiki, edit-a-thons and the Education Program. We'll see more of that in the near future :-) So please, let's welcome the newest member of the family of affiliates! Congrats! Regards, Carlos 1: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/North_Carolina_Triangle_Wikipedians_User_Group_-_Liaison_approval,_May_2015 -- *Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain. Carlos M. Colina Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | www.wikimedia.org.ve http://wikimedia.org.ve Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee Phone: +972-52-4869915 Twitter: @maor_x ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of North Carolina Triangle Wikipedians User Group
Congratulations, new user group members! On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve wrote: Dear all, On behalf of the Affiliations Committee, I am honored to announce the recognition [1] of a new User Group in the United States - the North Carolina Triangle Wikipedians. As their name implies, they are mostly active in the region known as the Research Triangle, or simply The Triangle. They have already organized activities in the region, especially at Duke and UNC related to MediaWiki, edit-a-thons and the Education Program. We'll see more of that in the near future :-) So please, let's welcome the newest member of the family of affiliates! Congrats! Regards, Carlos 1: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/North_Carolina_Triangle_Wikipedians_User_Group_-_Liaison_approval,_May_2015 -- *Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain. Carlos M. Colina Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | www.wikimedia.org.ve http://wikimedia.org.ve Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee Phone: +972-52-4869915 Twitter: @maor_x ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Etiamsi omnes, ego non ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] ** DATE CHANGE ** Invitation to WMF May 2015 Metrics Activities Meeting: Thursday, June 11, 18:00 UTC
Dear all, The next WMF metrics and activities meeting will take place on Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 6:00 PM UTC (11 AM PDT). Please note, on this occasion, we are holding this meeting on the second Thursday in June. The IRC channel is #wikimedia-office on irc.freenode.net, and the meeting will be broadcast as a live YouTube stream. Each month at the metrics meeting, we will: * Welcome recent hires * Present a community update * Present reports/updates that are focused on a key topic or theme; the topic for June's meeting is WMF Strategy Preview * Engage in questions/discussions Please review https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings for further information about how to participate. We’ll post the video recording publicly after the meeting. Thank you, Praveena -- Praveena Maharaj Executive Assistant to the Vice President of Engineering Wikimedia Foundation \\ www.wikimediafoundation.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16
This draft WMF annual plan was first published on Meta on the 25th.[1] It was then announced by the mailing list late on the 26th. Yet the document itself says, The comment period for this version will close May 29, 2015. This gives approximately 3 days to engage in community consultation on the WMF annual plan (value: $67M) because it is important that [we] make certain that we have community feedback on this initial draft and because we value this input. I recognise that the deadline of the WMF Board of Trustees needing to vote on this (June 15) is looming, so the timeline is short. I am sure the original *intention* was to have a longer time period but that due to some delays in preparing the document for review the time just slipped away. Nevertheless, three days is not stakeholder engagement - it's just ticking the box of inform the community before sending it to the Board. The WMF talks about eating your own dog food[2] in terms of engineering, but it would be good if something similar would take place in the annual planning too... Chapters are required to submit their annual plans to a two *month* period of quite thorough public review before the FDC gives its recommendations, and then there's a further period before the actual decision/appeals.[3] Some of these annual plans are also considerably more detailed than the WMF's, while asking for a considerably smaller amount of money. It would be good if the WMF would *try to set a good example* by following the rules that it sets for others, itself. - Liam / Wittylama [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_Plan/2015-16action=history [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_your_own_dog_food [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Information wittylama.com Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Listen Button
2015-05-28 12:32 GMT+02:00 Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk: This is a very enlightening discussion, but it's painfully apparent that there is no input in this discussion from someone who is sight-impaired, or input from an organisation like RNIB http://www.rnib.org.uk/about-rnib/web-accessibility-statement. Getting a wide range of this input is really key before this can go much further. This is for sure a field were chapters and other local affiliates can make good use of partnerships with local associations of blind or sight-impaired people. For exampla, In the Archeowiki project by Wikimedia Italia (developed in the years 2012 - 2014) we did some outreach work with the Insituto dei ciechi di Milano (Institute of Blind People of Milan, one of the oldest charities/foundations in Italy, being founded in 1840). This comprised some lessons about prehistoric, extra-European archaeology done by groups of archaeologists and Wikipedia that were specifically trained. In these lessons there were a set of artefacts that could be touched and also some 3D printed reproduction. Cristian ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Keep me logged in (for up to 30 days)
Hello everybody, I have to login to Wikimedia projects every single time I begin a session on my iPad1 now because I cannot select the button on the user login page next to the text Keep me logged in (for up to 30 days) I think it's a java mismatch with my old built-in iPad1 safari browser (which cannot be updated, as far as I know). Is there anyplace to check this box in some other way? Also, is there a reason this box looks like this? Thanks in advance, Jane ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Listen Button
Yes this remark is only focused to give the feedback that our user experience is really different from that of the real users. A question was done about the testing and in any country there are local associations that can give tests (in Italian language there is unitalsi). An additional remark is that there is an additional reason to improve pages for blind persons and the reason is that the bots for SEO are blind. They read the pages, don't see them. Regards Il 28/Mag/2015 12:33, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk ha scritto: This is a very enlightening discussion, but it's painfully apparent that there is no input in this discussion from someone who is sight-impaired, or input from an organisation like RNIB http://www.rnib.org.uk/about-rnib/web-accessibility-statement. Getting a wide range of this input is really key before this can go much further. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 28 May 2015 at 10:58, Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry if I continue this discussion of January but it may be interesting to share my experience had yesterday because I attended to a presentation of a young programmer suffering from low vision and color-blind and usual participant in http://globalaccessibilityawarenessday.org/gaad.html. It has been interesting because we experienced how is the life of a person studying and working in computer science but almost blind and we had the opportunity to be in his shoes. The first lesson learned is that blind (or almost blind) people use always a software of speech synthesis with a speed that makes the audio almost unintelligible for not experienced people. The operating system provides several tools for that including mobile OS. The second lesson is that this software of speech synthesis is crucial for them and they would set and control it. So forget the normal speed of audio that everyone of us is experienced to use. The third lesson is that a lot of them in general hears music with headset and have the speech synthesis always on, if there is a third vocal synthesis for them is more a problem than an advantage. The fourth lesson learned is that Wikipedia is for them a well done web site because the content is structured. It means that the Table of Content at the start (so neglected by some graphical reasons) is fundamental for them because they can easily jump in the section they need. No one knew that I am from a Wikimedia chapter except the organizers and I did several questions about Wikipedia because (I did not know it) it was presented as good example of website for speech synthesis. What can be improved, in my opinion it's only the semantic aspect of the Wikipedia, so pushing more the attention on the structure of the page, and the awareness that images are not useful for them. We must be aware that some tools used in Wikipedia, like Captcha, are a real obstacle for blind people, like stairs for people with wheelchairs. Regards On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:55 AM, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I see this as making it easier for people to generate files to put on their ipod or for those with a limited ability to read who might not have figured out more complicated solutions. Those who are blind have likely already figured out good solutions. It is those of us who are sighted that need the help. I know that I personally would find such a button helpful. But through a great many steps I could likely figure out a work around. People prefer stuff that is simple. -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Ilario Valdelli Wikimedia CH Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Association pour l’avancement des connaissances libre Associazione per il sostegno alla conoscenza libera Switzerland - 8008 Zürich Wikipedia: Ilario https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ilario Skype: valdelli Facebook: Ilario Valdelli
Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Listen Button
Sorry if I continue this discussion of January but it may be interesting to share my experience had yesterday because I attended to a presentation of a young programmer suffering from low vision and color-blind and usual participant in http://globalaccessibilityawarenessday.org/gaad.html. It has been interesting because we experienced how is the life of a person studying and working in computer science but almost blind and we had the opportunity to be in his shoes. The first lesson learned is that blind (or almost blind) people use always a software of speech synthesis with a speed that makes the audio almost unintelligible for not experienced people. The operating system provides several tools for that including mobile OS. The second lesson is that this software of speech synthesis is crucial for them and they would set and control it. So forget the normal speed of audio that everyone of us is experienced to use. The third lesson is that a lot of them in general hears music with headset and have the speech synthesis always on, if there is a third vocal synthesis for them is more a problem than an advantage. The fourth lesson learned is that Wikipedia is for them a well done web site because the content is structured. It means that the Table of Content at the start (so neglected by some graphical reasons) is fundamental for them because they can easily jump in the section they need. No one knew that I am from a Wikimedia chapter except the organizers and I did several questions about Wikipedia because (I did not know it) it was presented as good example of website for speech synthesis. What can be improved, in my opinion it's only the semantic aspect of the Wikipedia, so pushing more the attention on the structure of the page, and the awareness that images are not useful for them. We must be aware that some tools used in Wikipedia, like Captcha, are a real obstacle for blind people, like stairs for people with wheelchairs. Regards On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:55 AM, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I see this as making it easier for people to generate files to put on their ipod or for those with a limited ability to read who might not have figured out more complicated solutions. Those who are blind have likely already figured out good solutions. It is those of us who are sighted that need the help. I know that I personally would find such a button helpful. But through a great many steps I could likely figure out a work around. People prefer stuff that is simple. -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Ilario Valdelli Wikimedia CH Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Association pour l’avancement des connaissances libre Associazione per il sostegno alla conoscenza libera Switzerland - 8008 Zürich Wikipedia: Ilario https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ilario Skype: valdelli Facebook: Ilario Valdelli https://www.facebook.com/ivaldelli Twitter: Ilario Valdelli https://twitter.com/ilariovaldelli Linkedin: Ilario Valdelli http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=6724469 Tel: +41764821371 http://www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Listen Button
This is a very enlightening discussion, but it's painfully apparent that there is no input in this discussion from someone who is sight-impaired, or input from an organisation like RNIB http://www.rnib.org.uk/about-rnib/web-accessibility-statement. Getting a wide range of this input is really key before this can go much further. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 28 May 2015 at 10:58, Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry if I continue this discussion of January but it may be interesting to share my experience had yesterday because I attended to a presentation of a young programmer suffering from low vision and color-blind and usual participant in http://globalaccessibilityawarenessday.org/gaad.html. It has been interesting because we experienced how is the life of a person studying and working in computer science but almost blind and we had the opportunity to be in his shoes. The first lesson learned is that blind (or almost blind) people use always a software of speech synthesis with a speed that makes the audio almost unintelligible for not experienced people. The operating system provides several tools for that including mobile OS. The second lesson is that this software of speech synthesis is crucial for them and they would set and control it. So forget the normal speed of audio that everyone of us is experienced to use. The third lesson is that a lot of them in general hears music with headset and have the speech synthesis always on, if there is a third vocal synthesis for them is more a problem than an advantage. The fourth lesson learned is that Wikipedia is for them a well done web site because the content is structured. It means that the Table of Content at the start (so neglected by some graphical reasons) is fundamental for them because they can easily jump in the section they need. No one knew that I am from a Wikimedia chapter except the organizers and I did several questions about Wikipedia because (I did not know it) it was presented as good example of website for speech synthesis. What can be improved, in my opinion it's only the semantic aspect of the Wikipedia, so pushing more the attention on the structure of the page, and the awareness that images are not useful for them. We must be aware that some tools used in Wikipedia, like Captcha, are a real obstacle for blind people, like stairs for people with wheelchairs. Regards On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:55 AM, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I see this as making it easier for people to generate files to put on their ipod or for those with a limited ability to read who might not have figured out more complicated solutions. Those who are blind have likely already figured out good solutions. It is those of us who are sighted that need the help. I know that I personally would find such a button helpful. But through a great many steps I could likely figure out a work around. People prefer stuff that is simple. -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Ilario Valdelli Wikimedia CH Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Association pour l’avancement des connaissances libre Associazione per il sostegno alla conoscenza libera Switzerland - 8008 Zürich Wikipedia: Ilario https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ilario Skype: valdelli Facebook: Ilario Valdelli https://www.facebook.com/ivaldelli Twitter: Ilario Valdelli https://twitter.com/ilariovaldelli Linkedin: Ilario Valdelli http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=6724469 Tel: +41764821371 http://www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:
[Wikimedia-l] comments on Annual Plan
Regarding https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_Plan/2015-16#Engineering Will key quality metrics for reading include accuracy of articles on the Simple English Wikipedia? To that end, will the Wikimedia Foundation please take over this project in full as stated here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2015-May/031684.html I have a new contract through the end of the year and will be unable to devote the time I had planned. Thank you. Best regards, James Salsman ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of North Carolina Triangle Wikipedians User Group
Welcome I am from nc as well - Frodo Baggins: Hobbit, Wikipedia editor (blackhat999 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Blackhat999), Linux freak, and hacker extraordinaire. On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Raymond Leonard raymond.f.leonard...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations and welcome! Yours, Peaceray Cascadia Wikimedians User Group On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve wrote: Dear all, On behalf of the Affiliations Committee, I am honored to announce the recognition [1] of a new User Group in the United States - the North Carolina Triangle Wikipedians. As their name implies, they are mostly active in the region known as the Research Triangle, or simply The Triangle. They have already organized activities in the region, especially at Duke and UNC related to MediaWiki, edit-a-thons and the Education Program. We'll see more of that in the near future :-) So please, let's welcome the newest member of the family of affiliates! Congrats! Regards, Carlos 1: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/North_Carolina_Triangle_Wikipedians_User_Group_-_Liaison_approval,_May_2015 -- *Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain. Carlos M. Colina Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | www.wikimedia.org.ve http://wikimedia.org.ve Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee Phone: +972-52-4869915 Twitter: @maor_x ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16
2015-05-28 17:38 GMT+02:00 Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com: This. in particular: It would be good if the WMF would *try to set a good example* by following the rules that it sets for others, itself. (as a clarification, I strong agree with Liam, especially in the point above). I also left out a relevant sentence from the FDC recommedation: «The FDC recognizes that there have been some attempts by the WMF for gathering community feedback, but believes that the current approach has proven insufficient in generating a strategic vision. The FDC strongly believes that there is a dire need for new ways to generate strategies and a new strategic vision for the Wikimedia movement, and urges the Board to make a significant effort to make sure that there is a roadmap to transition to the next strategic milestones. »[1] C [1] (again) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/FDC_portal/FDC_recommendations/2013-2014_round2#Wikimedia_Foundation_.28WMF.29 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16
I think it is safe to say that the FDC had a pretty clear consensus since the very beginning that WMF should lead by example. Also, the FDC's addition to general community feedback is possibly the only practical way to deal with this issue - as the Board receives the plan too late to make major amendments. Within the FDC, I've been advocating for an exactly such solution (as suggested also by Liam). Of course, a real question will be whether the FDC will have the bandwidth to handle even parts of the WMF plan. But all in all, there definitely should be sufficient time for the community at large to comment AND to get feedback from the FDC. Best Dariusz pundit 28 maj 2015 18:18 Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com napisał(a): 2015-05-28 17:38 GMT+02:00 Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com: This. in particular: It would be good if the WMF would *try to set a good example* by following the rules that it sets for others, itself. (as a clarification, I strong agree with Liam, especially in the point above). I also left out a relevant sentence from the FDC recommedation: «The FDC recognizes that there have been some attempts by the WMF for gathering community feedback, but believes that the current approach has proven insufficient in generating a strategic vision. The FDC strongly believes that there is a dire need for new ways to generate strategies and a new strategic vision for the Wikimedia movement, and urges the Board to make a significant effort to make sure that there is a roadmap to transition to the next strategic milestones. »[1] C [1] (again) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/FDC_portal/FDC_recommendations/2013-2014_round2#Wikimedia_Foundation_.28WMF.29 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16
Due to a large amount of spam, emails from non-members of this list are now automatically rejected. Please be aware that all messages to this list are archived and viewable by the public. If you have a confidential communication to make, please rather email info [at] wikimedia.org. Thank you. -- Forwarded message -- From: Dariusz Jemielniak da...@friend.pl To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 18:08:08 +0200 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16 Hi Liam, Within the FDC, during the very first rounds of the process, I was making a point repeatedly (seconded e.g. by Mike Peel) that WMF should undergo some control and feedback through the FDC. Since then the WMF decided to drop the division between the core and non-core activities and withdrew its operations from the FDC feedback (perhaps also because it was exerting a lot of strain on the FDC). I personally strongly believe that the community should have sufficient time to comment on the WMF plan, and also that the FDC should have a possibility to evaluate and give feedback at least to some of it. Large (and small) chapters and thematic organizations are required to undergo a very specific process of review, with inflexible deadlines and detailed requirements. I believe that the WMF, as the organization that is both the most professionalized, and also uses the most of our movement's funds, should set an example and lead by showing how proper community feedback can be conducted. Best, Dj 28 maj 2015 11:44 Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com napisał(a): This draft WMF annual plan was first published on Meta on the 25th.[1] It was then announced by the mailing list late on the 26th. Yet the document itself says, The comment period for this version will close May 29, 2015. This gives approximately 3 days to engage in community consultation on the WMF annual plan (value: $67M) because it is important that [we] make certain that we have community feedback on this initial draft and because we value this input. I recognise that the deadline of the WMF Board of Trustees needing to vote on this (June 15) is looming, so the timeline is short. I am sure the original *intention* was to have a longer time period but that due to some delays in preparing the document for review the time just slipped away. Nevertheless, three days is not stakeholder engagement - it's just ticking the box of inform the community before sending it to the Board. The WMF talks about eating your own dog food[2] in terms of engineering, but it would be good if something similar would take place in the annual planning too... Chapters are required to submit their annual plans to a two *month* period of quite thorough public review before the FDC gives its recommendations, and then there's a further period before the actual decision/appeals.[3] Some of these annual plans are also considerably more detailed than the WMF's, while asking for a considerably smaller amount of money. It would be good if the WMF would *try to set a good example* by following the rules that it sets for others, itself. - Liam / Wittylama [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_Plan/2015-16action=history [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_your_own_dog_food [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Information wittylama.com Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16
2015-05-28 11:42 GMT+02:00 Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com: The WMF talks about eating your own dog food[2] in terms of engineering, but it would be good if something similar would take place in the annual planning too... Chapters are required to submit their annual plans to a two *month* period of quite thorough public review before the FDC gives its recommendations, and then there's a further period before the actual decision/appeals.[3] [...] This. in particular: It would be good if the WMF would *try to set a good example* by following the rules that it sets for others, itself. And also a little addition (from [1]): «The FDC would like to encourage the WMF to share more data in advance, and to do so publicly as much as possible. It was very difficult to evaluate this proposal when some data were made available on short notice. Also, the budget submitted to the FDC is not a final one, and the FDC has to comment on a working version of a proposal. As a result, the FDC has to work on a proposal with a significant growth in administration and hiring, although it is also immediately clear that the suggested numbers were theoretical maximums, not meant to be met. For all future proposals, the FDC strongly emphasizes the need for a complete proposal: the WMF should undergo similar procedures as other entities in the movement. The Board may need to adjust the calendar of FDC work, but allowing for a comprehensive review by a committee from the community (such as the FDC) rather than the Wikimedia Foundation itself is essential, especially in light of the minimal feedback from the community on the public pages. [...] The FDC is worried that the WMF has not followed the FDC’s recommendations from the previous round (2012–2013 Round 1), and that the WMF has excused itself from proposing an amount in the current round. The WMF should either clearly withdraw from the FDC process or undergo it on equal basis with other organizations in the movement. In particular, the WMF should apply for an amount, and should submit a full final proposal. The calendar for the FDC process may need to be adjusted to accommodate the WMF, but these requirements are important for the process. Allowing a thorough review of the WMF proposals by a community-driven body is especially important, since a lot of staffing and budget increases are not clearly and directly linked with the strategic priorities. The WMF has high competencies in governance and in running a large organization, and should be significantly more proactive in disseminating its knowledge and supporting chapters and thematic organizations through training, onboarding plans, and fostering cross-chapter exchange. [...] Some FDC members object to the fact that the FDC is not being asked to provide a dollar amount for the WMF proposal, as this is a distinct difference from how the FDC assesses the other organizations that apply to it. They would like to see the WMF apply with a dollar amount next year, and to run its annual planning process on a similar timescale to that expected from other organizations participating in the FDC process.» As it was already said above. I, personally, do think that we can discuss about making some adjustments to the process to make it work for an organisation of the size of the WMF, but I also would like to see the WMF play along the rule of everybody else in the movement (again, considering all the special need and characteristics of this). Cristian [1] source: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/FDC_portal/FDC_recommendations/2013-2014_round2#Wikimedia_Foundation_.28WMF.29 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
