Re: [Wikimedia-l] Offline Medical Wikipedia in Spanish

2016-08-17 Thread Peter Southwood
Good going.
P

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Hey All

We launched an offline medical version of Wikipedia in Spanish today.

You can download it at Google Play here
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.kiwix.kiwixcustomwikimedes

Have attached a press release we have put together. We continue to see 
exponential growth in downloads of the English version.

--
James Heilman
MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian

The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine
www.opentextbookofmedicine.com
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2016 call for Board Governance Committee Volunteer and Advisory members [results]

2016-08-17 Thread Katherine Maher
Similarly - really delighted to see so many excellent people supporting
this important committee. Thank you to everyone who volunteered!

Katherine

On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 7:38 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak 
wrote:

> +1, and also I'm amazed how many outstanding people are willing to help!
>
> 17.08.2016 2:34 AM "Christophe Henner"  napisał(a):
>
> > I hope nobody will mind, but I'll "Yay" with you too.
> >
> > Thanks and kuddos to Natalia for bringing the idea up, leading the
> process,
> > and making it happen so quickly. And thanks to everyone who volunteered
> to
> > join bgc on top of their other volunteers position :)
> >
> > Christophe
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Delphine Ménard 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Anders said it all. This announcement is so many kind of cool I don't
> > > know where to begin. So just YAY! Thanks for the initiative, thanks
> > > for volunteering.
> > >
> > > Delphine
> > >
> > > On 16 August 2016 at 20:57, Anders Wennersten <
> m...@anderswennersten.se>
> > > wrote:
> > > > I joined the movement in 2007. I was then overwhelmed by the beauty
> and
> > > > strength of the concept and the content in the projects. But at the
> > same
> > > > time I was underwhelmed by the support structure behind. Even if
> > Delphine
> > > > and Brion were good in talking with everyone and fixing technique and
> > > > Florence in chairing the operations, it was surely not up to the
> needs.
> > > >
> > > > For me a milestone in getting a professional support structure in
> place
> > > was
> > > > in 2012, when the Haifa agreement was realized and the FDC (and
> > > > narrowing-focus) got in place. FDC was as fascinating for me as the
> > base
> > > > concept of the projects and as much true to the values of the
> movement.
> > > And
> > > > besides the clever colleagues in the committee I got to know  some
> > truly
> > > > admirable individuals, like Kate Welsh, Garfield, Gayle and of course
> > > > Anasuya (and a little later Katy and Bishakha). Sometimes I feel that
> > in
> > > the
> > > > movement there are the best people you can find anywhere. But at the
> > same
> > > > time there were underwhelming issues, like a partly dysfunctional
> Board
> > > and
> > > > that WMF operations was neither properly working nor reviewed (by
> FDC).
> > > >
> > > > I now see that in 2016 a new milestone is being passed when the
> > movement
> > > (at
> > > > last) gets a professional support structure on par with the needs.  I
> > > > perceive the tech org now working well and user driven, that the
> budget
> > > > process now has been run professional and that there is a good
> > management
> > > > team in place for the running of WMF. And after seeing a lot of good
> > > > initiatives around the working of the Board where this announcement
> is
> > > the
> > > > thing that get the keyelement in place,  I also believe the Board is
> > now
> > > up
> > > > to become as professional as is needed for the movement. And the joy
> of
> > > > seeing the names of many of my all time favourites back (in part also
> > in
> > > > FDC) is profound.
> > > >
> > > > Welcome all of you and looking forward to read of the resolutions
> from
> > > this
> > > > enhanced BGC
> > > >
> > > > Anders
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Den 2016-08-16 kl. 15:47, skrev Nataliia Tymkiv:
> > > >>
> > > >> Dear all,
> > > >>
> > > >> I am honestly delighted to announce the results of the public call
> for
> > > >> Board Governance committee volunteer and Advisory members, announced
> > on
> > > >> July 15, 2016  [1]. We received nine applications, and after
> > discussing
> > > >> them with BGC and reviewing the committee's needs and interviewing a
> > > short
> > > >> list of candidates,I have chosen five volunteer advisory members for
> > the
> > > >> committee. I'd like to extend my thanks to everyone who offered to
> > serve
> > > >> on
> > > >> the committee.
> > > >>
> > > >> Please find below a short introduction for our new volunteer
> advisory
> > > >> members. They are all quite well known in the movement and I think
> > their
> > > >> insights would be helpful. They join the Committee once they sign
> the
> > > >> documents that Stephen LaPorte, our Interim Secretary, sent to them
> > (the
> > > >> same ones as the Board members sign - the confidentiality agreement
> > > >>
> > > >>  > > agreement_of_the_Board_of_Trustees>
> > > >> , code of conduct
> > > >>
> > > >>  > > the_Board_of_Trustees>
> > > >> , conflict of interest disclosure
> > > >>  >).
> > > >>
> > > >> === Gayle Karen Young ===
> > > >>
> > > >> Gayle Karen Young is a WMF's former Chief Talent and Culture office.
> > In
> > > >> her
> > > >> time at Wikimedia, she was accountable 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FW: My final email

2016-08-17 Thread Marc-Andre

On 2016-08-17 06:13 AM, Peter Southwood wrote:


Problem? Vague and unspecific information and suggestion of possible 
unspecified consequences. Unfortunately this is the kind of language I have 
come to expect from Jimmy, and why I don't take anything he writes at face 
value.


The problem of that page's wording being rather vague and unclear about 
what, exactly, you'd unsubscribe from is a genuine issue that needs 
fixin' (that is, while what the intent is would be clear to technically 
savvy people as illustrated by the responses on this very thread, it 
clearly needs to be wordsmithed into making more sense).


That said, I'm pretty sure absolutely nobody sane believes Jimmy 
personally sits down and writes bits of web interface used by 
fundraising, so the dig at his expense is not only gratuitous, but 
detracts from any point you were trying to make.


-- Coren / Marc


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] First French WikiConvention

2016-08-17 Thread Kevin Payravi
This is awesome to hear, Pierre. Best of luck to the event!

Kevin
SuperHamster on en.wiki
Sent via mobile

On Aug 17, 2016 11:11 AM, "Pierre-Yves Beaudouin" <
pierre.beaudo...@wikimedia.fr> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> We are proud to announce that the first ever French-speaking Wikimedia
> projects editors gathering will take place on August 19-20-21 in Paris,
> France. Supported by WikiFranca and organized locally by Wikimedia France,
> it's a "dream come true" as the first idea of this event goes back to 2012.
>
> The 1st Francophone WikiConvention will take place in an eco-friendly
> rehabilitated place called the Halle Pajol in the 18th arrondissement of
> Paris.
> Nearly 140 participants from 15 countries will be present. More than 40
> proposals were made by the participants to create the program of this 2,5
> day convention: gender-inclusive language on Wikipedia, paid contributions,
> enriching articles about francophone Paralympic athletes, accessibility and
> contribution in Africa ... A variety of themes that reflect the issues of
> the francophone part of the Wikimedia movement.
>
> This event was made possible by the support of the International
> Organization of the Francophonie, the General Delegation for the French
> language and the languages ​​of France, L'Oréal Foundation for Women in
> Science, Google France and of course the support of Wikimedia Wikimedia
> France and Wikimedia Switzerland, as well as the Wikimedia Foundation. The
> event is coordinated by WikiFranca, the organization of chapters,
> francophone user groups and contributors of the Wikimedia movement.
>
> It is meant to be then organized annually, if it proves to be successful !
> Thank you to all Wikimedians who supported this event. And now, let's do it
> !
>
>
> Pyb
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] First French WikiConvention

2016-08-17 Thread Gordon Joly
On 17/08/16 16:10, Pierre-Yves Beaudouin wrote:
> The 1st Francophone WikiConvention will take place in an eco-friendly
> rehabilitated place called the Halle Pajol in the 18th arrondissement of
> Paris.


I like the name, WikiConvention. Still not happy about "Wikimania" since
"mania" is a serious medical issue (for those with bipolar affective
disorder).

Gordo


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[Wikimedia-l] Offline Medical Wikipedia in Spanish

2016-08-17 Thread James Heilman
Hey All

We launched an offline medical version of Wikipedia in Spanish today.

You can download it at Google Play here
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.kiwix.kiwixcustomwikimedes

Have attached a press release we have put together. We continue to see
exponential growth in downloads of the English version.

-- 
James Heilman
MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian

The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine
www.opentextbookofmedicine.com
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] FW: My final email

2016-08-17 Thread Peter Southwood
Thank you Caitlin, that actually addresses the problem, and I think that will 
be a significant improvement. It would also be nice if I didn’t have to opt out 
of something I don’t think I ever opted into. 
Cheers,
Peter

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Caitlin Cogdill
Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2016 7:33 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] FW: My final email

Hi Peter,

I can appreciate that the text on the page seems vague in terms of defining to 
what list the opt-out will apply. We're going to edit the header on the page to 
specifically say "Fundraising email". I hope that helps clarify for other 
donors on multiple Wikimedia lists.

Thanks,
Caitlin

On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 7:03 AM, Marc-Andre  wrote:

> On 2016-08-17 06:13 AM, Peter Southwood wrote:
>
> Problem? Vague and unspecific information and suggestion of possible
>> unspecified consequences. Unfortunately this is the kind of language 
>> I have come to expect from Jimmy, and why I don't take anything he 
>> writes at face value.
>>
>
> The problem of that page's wording being rather vague and unclear 
> about what, exactly, you'd unsubscribe from is a genuine issue that needs 
> fixin'
> (that is, while what the intent is would be clear to technically savvy 
> people as illustrated by the responses on this very thread, it clearly 
> needs to be wordsmithed into making more sense).
>
> That said, I'm pretty sure absolutely nobody sane believes Jimmy 
> personally sits down and writes bits of web interface used by 
> fundraising, so the dig at his expense is not only gratuitous, but 
> detracts from any point you were trying to make.
>
> -- Coren / Marc
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] FW: My final email

2016-08-17 Thread Peter Southwood
You know this to be the case?
Peter

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Marc-Andre
Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2016 4:04 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] FW: My final email

On 2016-08-17 06:13 AM, Peter Southwood wrote:

> Problem? Vague and unspecific information and suggestion of possible 
> unspecified consequences. Unfortunately this is the kind of language I have 
> come to expect from Jimmy, and why I don't take anything he writes at face 
> value.

The problem of that page's wording being rather vague and unclear about what, 
exactly, you'd unsubscribe from is a genuine issue that needs fixin' (that is, 
while what the intent is would be clear to technically savvy people as 
illustrated by the responses on this very thread, it clearly needs to be 
wordsmithed into making more sense).

That said, I'm pretty sure absolutely nobody sane believes Jimmy personally 
sits down and writes bits of web interface used by fundraising, so the dig at 
his expense is not only gratuitous, but detracts from any point you were trying 
to make.

-- Coren / Marc


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] FW: My final email

2016-08-17 Thread Caitlin Cogdill
Hi Peter,

I can appreciate that the text on the page seems vague in terms of defining
to what list the opt-out will apply. We're going to edit the header on the
page to specifically say "Fundraising email". I hope that helps clarify for
other donors on multiple Wikimedia lists.

Thanks,
Caitlin

On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 7:03 AM, Marc-Andre  wrote:

> On 2016-08-17 06:13 AM, Peter Southwood wrote:
>
> Problem? Vague and unspecific information and suggestion of possible
>> unspecified consequences. Unfortunately this is the kind of language I have
>> come to expect from Jimmy, and why I don't take anything he writes at face
>> value.
>>
>
> The problem of that page's wording being rather vague and unclear about
> what, exactly, you'd unsubscribe from is a genuine issue that needs fixin'
> (that is, while what the intent is would be clear to technically savvy
> people as illustrated by the responses on this very thread, it clearly
> needs to be wordsmithed into making more sense).
>
> That said, I'm pretty sure absolutely nobody sane believes Jimmy
> personally sits down and writes bits of web interface used by fundraising,
> so the dig at his expense is not only gratuitous, but detracts from any
> point you were trying to make.
>
> -- Coren / Marc
>
>
>
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[Wikimedia-l] First French WikiConvention

2016-08-17 Thread Pierre-Yves Beaudouin
Dear all,

We are proud to announce that the first ever French-speaking Wikimedia
projects editors gathering will take place on August 19-20-21 in Paris,
France. Supported by WikiFranca and organized locally by Wikimedia France,
it's a "dream come true" as the first idea of this event goes back to 2012.

The 1st Francophone WikiConvention will take place in an eco-friendly
rehabilitated place called the Halle Pajol in the 18th arrondissement of
Paris.
Nearly 140 participants from 15 countries will be present. More than 40
proposals were made by the participants to create the program of this 2,5
day convention: gender-inclusive language on Wikipedia, paid contributions,
enriching articles about francophone Paralympic athletes, accessibility and
contribution in Africa ... A variety of themes that reflect the issues of
the francophone part of the Wikimedia movement.

This event was made possible by the support of the International
Organization of the Francophonie, the General Delegation for the French
language and the languages ​​of France, L'Oréal Foundation for Women in
Science, Google France and of course the support of Wikimedia Wikimedia
France and Wikimedia Switzerland, as well as the Wikimedia Foundation. The
event is coordinated by WikiFranca, the organization of chapters,
francophone user groups and contributors of the Wikimedia movement.

It is meant to be then organized annually, if it proves to be successful !
Thank you to all Wikimedians who supported this event. And now, let's do it
!


Pyb
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2016 call for Board Governance Committee Volunteer and Advisory members [results]

2016-08-17 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
+1, and also I'm amazed how many outstanding people are willing to help!

17.08.2016 2:34 AM "Christophe Henner"  napisał(a):

> I hope nobody will mind, but I'll "Yay" with you too.
>
> Thanks and kuddos to Natalia for bringing the idea up, leading the process,
> and making it happen so quickly. And thanks to everyone who volunteered to
> join bgc on top of their other volunteers position :)
>
> Christophe
>
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Delphine Ménard 
> wrote:
>
> > Anders said it all. This announcement is so many kind of cool I don't
> > know where to begin. So just YAY! Thanks for the initiative, thanks
> > for volunteering.
> >
> > Delphine
> >
> > On 16 August 2016 at 20:57, Anders Wennersten 
> > wrote:
> > > I joined the movement in 2007. I was then overwhelmed by the beauty and
> > > strength of the concept and the content in the projects. But at the
> same
> > > time I was underwhelmed by the support structure behind. Even if
> Delphine
> > > and Brion were good in talking with everyone and fixing technique and
> > > Florence in chairing the operations, it was surely not up to the needs.
> > >
> > > For me a milestone in getting a professional support structure in place
> > was
> > > in 2012, when the Haifa agreement was realized and the FDC (and
> > > narrowing-focus) got in place. FDC was as fascinating for me as the
> base
> > > concept of the projects and as much true to the values of the movement.
> > And
> > > besides the clever colleagues in the committee I got to know  some
> truly
> > > admirable individuals, like Kate Welsh, Garfield, Gayle and of course
> > > Anasuya (and a little later Katy and Bishakha). Sometimes I feel that
> in
> > the
> > > movement there are the best people you can find anywhere. But at the
> same
> > > time there were underwhelming issues, like a partly dysfunctional Board
> > and
> > > that WMF operations was neither properly working nor reviewed (by FDC).
> > >
> > > I now see that in 2016 a new milestone is being passed when the
> movement
> > (at
> > > last) gets a professional support structure on par with the needs.  I
> > > perceive the tech org now working well and user driven, that the budget
> > > process now has been run professional and that there is a good
> management
> > > team in place for the running of WMF. And after seeing a lot of good
> > > initiatives around the working of the Board where this announcement is
> > the
> > > thing that get the keyelement in place,  I also believe the Board is
> now
> > up
> > > to become as professional as is needed for the movement. And the joy of
> > > seeing the names of many of my all time favourites back (in part also
> in
> > > FDC) is profound.
> > >
> > > Welcome all of you and looking forward to read of the resolutions from
> > this
> > > enhanced BGC
> > >
> > > Anders
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Den 2016-08-16 kl. 15:47, skrev Nataliia Tymkiv:
> > >>
> > >> Dear all,
> > >>
> > >> I am honestly delighted to announce the results of the public call for
> > >> Board Governance committee volunteer and Advisory members, announced
> on
> > >> July 15, 2016  [1]. We received nine applications, and after
> discussing
> > >> them with BGC and reviewing the committee's needs and interviewing a
> > short
> > >> list of candidates,I have chosen five volunteer advisory members for
> the
> > >> committee. I'd like to extend my thanks to everyone who offered to
> serve
> > >> on
> > >> the committee.
> > >>
> > >> Please find below a short introduction for our new volunteer advisory
> > >> members. They are all quite well known in the movement and I think
> their
> > >> insights would be helpful. They join the Committee once they sign the
> > >> documents that Stephen LaPorte, our Interim Secretary, sent to them
> (the
> > >> same ones as the Board members sign - the confidentiality agreement
> > >>
> > >>  > agreement_of_the_Board_of_Trustees>
> > >> , code of conduct
> > >>
> > >>  > the_Board_of_Trustees>
> > >> , conflict of interest disclosure
> > >> ).
> > >>
> > >> === Gayle Karen Young ===
> > >>
> > >> Gayle Karen Young is a WMF's former Chief Talent and Culture office.
> In
> > >> her
> > >> time at Wikimedia, she was accountable for building the current HR
> team
> > >> and
> > >> had an active hand in board development and staffed the board HR
> > >> committee.
> > >> She brings experience with the Wikimedia movement, with the workings
> of
> > >> the
> > >> Foundation, and through her own consulting work in leadership and
> board
> > >> development with organizations in both the for-profit and non-profit
> > >> space,
> > >> and in technology and human rights.
> > >>
> > >> === Kat Walsh ===
> > >>
> > >> Kat Walsh is a 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FW: My final email

2016-08-17 Thread Lodewijk
And, I presume, password reminders, Wikipedia system emails, talkpage
notification emails, incidental invitations for research participation etc?
That would at least be the by me expected behaviour.

I guess there's a more accurate description for the unsubscribe link
imaginable in that case though :) (for future improvements)

Lodewijk

2016-08-17 14:39 GMT+02:00 Joseph Seddon :

> Hey Peter,
>
> So you can unsubscribe from the fundraising and WMF newsletter emails via
> that form and you will remain on lists such as Wikimedia-l.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Regards
> Seddon
>
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Peter Southwood <
> peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>
> > That link says "Unsubscribe from Wikimedia Email" I am subscribed to a
> > whole lot of email from Wikimedia. I only want to unsubscribe from that
> > specific one.
> > Problem? Vague and unspecific information and suggestion of possible
> > unspecified consequences. Unfortunately this is the kind of language I
> have
> > come to expect from Jimmy, and why I don't take anything he writes at
> face
> > value.
> > Cheers,
> > Peter
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On
> > Behalf Of John Mark Vandenberg
> > Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2016 11:31 AM
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] FW: My final email
> >
> > What is https://www.pages04.net/ ?
> >
> > WMF has given them a copy of (a subset of..?) the donor email list, as
> > this link has Peter's email address on the page:
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] FW: My final email

2016-08-17 Thread Joseph Seddon
Hey Peter,

So you can unsubscribe from the fundraising and WMF newsletter emails via
that form and you will remain on lists such as Wikimedia-l.

Hope that helps.

Regards
Seddon

On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Peter Southwood <
peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

> That link says "Unsubscribe from Wikimedia Email" I am subscribed to a
> whole lot of email from Wikimedia. I only want to unsubscribe from that
> specific one.
> Problem? Vague and unspecific information and suggestion of possible
> unspecified consequences. Unfortunately this is the kind of language I have
> come to expect from Jimmy, and why I don't take anything he writes at face
> value.
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On
> Behalf Of John Mark Vandenberg
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2016 11:31 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] FW: My final email
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> 52077018=Mzk5NjI0Mzk2ODUS1=OTgyOTg3MDUyS0=
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>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] FW: My final email

2016-08-17 Thread Peter Southwood
That link says "Unsubscribe from Wikimedia Email" I am subscribed to a whole 
lot of email from Wikimedia. I only want to unsubscribe from that specific one.
Problem? Vague and unspecific information and suggestion of possible 
unspecified consequences. Unfortunately this is the kind of language I have 
come to expect from Jimmy, and why I don't take anything he writes at face 
value. 
Cheers,
Peter 

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John Mark Vandenberg
Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2016 11:31 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] FW: My final email

What is https://www.pages04.net/ ?

WMF has given them a copy of (a subset of..?) the donor email list, as this 
link has Peter's email address on the page:

https://www.pages04.net/wikimedia/WMFUnsubscribe/Unsubscribe?spMailingID=52077018=Mzk5NjI0Mzk2ODUS1=OTgyOTg3MDUyS0=OTgyOTg3MDUyS0

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] FW: My final email

2016-08-17 Thread Peter Southwood
Every year he says it is the final email, so far that has not turned out to be 
the case. 
If I click on the unsubscribe link and it actually does what it claims, it will 
be a serious inconvenience to me.
Cheers,
peter

-Original Message-
From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of 
Craig Franklin
Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2016 10:57 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] FW: My final email

Well, he *did* say it was his final email!

I'd imagine the unsubscribe link would get you off the "former donors we can 
spam" list without removing you from this august list.

Cheers,
Craig

On 17 August 2016 at 18:52, Peter Southwood 
wrote:

> Is there any way to unsubscribe from these annoying and in my opinion 
> misleading spam mails purporting to come from Jimmy Wales without 
> unsubscribing from any other Wikimedia mailing lists or e-mail 
> notifications?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> From: ji...@wikipedia.org [mailto:don...@wikimedia.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2016 10:01 AM
> To: peter.southw...@telkomsa.net
> Subject: My final email
>
>
>
> Inside this email: fun fact from Wikipedia
>
>
>
>
>   utm_medium=email=Appeal-JimmyQuote_source=
> sp52077018=35.00=en_id=7476197_id=1>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Peter,
>
> When the clock strikes midnight, our email fundraiser will end — but 
> we haven't yet hit our goal. Please take one minute to renew your R 50 
> < https://donate.wikimedia.org/?utm_campaign=C1617_Email3;
> utm_medium=email=Appeal-JimmyQuote_source=
> sp52077018=35.00=en_id=7476197_id=2>  
> donation to Wikipedia.
>
> If all our past donors simply gave again today, we wouldn't have to 
> worry about fundraising for the rest of the year.
>
> We’re a small nonprofit. We’re independent. We don’t run ads or sell 
> services to our readers. Though our size requires us to maintain the 
> server space and programming power of a top site, we are sustained by 
> the support of our donors who give an average of about R 175. This 
> year, will you take one minute to keep our work going?
>
>
>
>   utm_medium=email=Appeal-JimmyQuote_source=
> sp52077018=35.00=en_id=7476197_id=b1> R 50 »
>
>
>
>
>   utm_medium=email=Appeal-JimmyQuote_source=
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>
>
>
>
>
>   utm_medium=email=Appeal-JimmyQuote_source=
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>
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>
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>
>
>
>
>
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> 5=50.00> Renew your donation: R 50 »
>
> Thank you,
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2016 call for Board Governance Committee Volunteer and Advisory members [results]

2016-08-17 Thread Christophe Henner
I hope nobody will mind, but I'll "Yay" with you too.

Thanks and kuddos to Natalia for bringing the idea up, leading the process,
and making it happen so quickly. And thanks to everyone who volunteered to
join bgc on top of their other volunteers position :)

Christophe

On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Delphine Ménard 
wrote:

> Anders said it all. This announcement is so many kind of cool I don't
> know where to begin. So just YAY! Thanks for the initiative, thanks
> for volunteering.
>
> Delphine
>
> On 16 August 2016 at 20:57, Anders Wennersten 
> wrote:
> > I joined the movement in 2007. I was then overwhelmed by the beauty and
> > strength of the concept and the content in the projects. But at the same
> > time I was underwhelmed by the support structure behind. Even if Delphine
> > and Brion were good in talking with everyone and fixing technique and
> > Florence in chairing the operations, it was surely not up to the needs.
> >
> > For me a milestone in getting a professional support structure in place
> was
> > in 2012, when the Haifa agreement was realized and the FDC (and
> > narrowing-focus) got in place. FDC was as fascinating for me as the base
> > concept of the projects and as much true to the values of the movement.
> And
> > besides the clever colleagues in the committee I got to know  some truly
> > admirable individuals, like Kate Welsh, Garfield, Gayle and of course
> > Anasuya (and a little later Katy and Bishakha). Sometimes I feel that in
> the
> > movement there are the best people you can find anywhere. But at the same
> > time there were underwhelming issues, like a partly dysfunctional Board
> and
> > that WMF operations was neither properly working nor reviewed (by FDC).
> >
> > I now see that in 2016 a new milestone is being passed when the movement
> (at
> > last) gets a professional support structure on par with the needs.  I
> > perceive the tech org now working well and user driven, that the budget
> > process now has been run professional and that there is a good management
> > team in place for the running of WMF. And after seeing a lot of good
> > initiatives around the working of the Board where this announcement is
> the
> > thing that get the keyelement in place,  I also believe the Board is now
> up
> > to become as professional as is needed for the movement. And the joy of
> > seeing the names of many of my all time favourites back (in part also in
> > FDC) is profound.
> >
> > Welcome all of you and looking forward to read of the resolutions from
> this
> > enhanced BGC
> >
> > Anders
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Den 2016-08-16 kl. 15:47, skrev Nataliia Tymkiv:
> >>
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> I am honestly delighted to announce the results of the public call for
> >> Board Governance committee volunteer and Advisory members, announced on
> >> July 15, 2016  [1]. We received nine applications, and after discussing
> >> them with BGC and reviewing the committee's needs and interviewing a
> short
> >> list of candidates,I have chosen five volunteer advisory members for the
> >> committee. I'd like to extend my thanks to everyone who offered to serve
> >> on
> >> the committee.
> >>
> >> Please find below a short introduction for our new volunteer advisory
> >> members. They are all quite well known in the movement and I think their
> >> insights would be helpful. They join the Committee once they sign the
> >> documents that Stephen LaPorte, our Interim Secretary, sent to them (the
> >> same ones as the Board members sign - the confidentiality agreement
> >>
> >>  agreement_of_the_Board_of_Trustees>
> >> , code of conduct
> >>
> >>  the_Board_of_Trustees>
> >> , conflict of interest disclosure
> >> ).
> >>
> >> === Gayle Karen Young ===
> >>
> >> Gayle Karen Young is a WMF's former Chief Talent and Culture office. In
> >> her
> >> time at Wikimedia, she was accountable for building the current HR team
> >> and
> >> had an active hand in board development and staffed the board HR
> >> committee.
> >> She brings experience with the Wikimedia movement, with the workings of
> >> the
> >> Foundation, and through her own consulting work in leadership and board
> >> development with organizations in both the for-profit and non-profit
> >> space,
> >> and in technology and human rights.
> >>
> >> === Kat Walsh ===
> >>
> >> Kat Walsh is a former member of Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees,
> >> 12/2006-8/2013 (Chair, 2012-2013; Executive Secretary, 2009-2010). Now
> she
> >> works as an attorney specializing in copyright, Internet law, and free
> and
> >> open source software.
> >>
> >>
> >> === Tim Moritz Hector ===
> >>
> >> Tim Moritz Hector is Chair of the Board of Wikimedia Deutschland since
> >> 2014. Tim has been an active Wikimedian 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FW: My final email

2016-08-17 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
What is https://www.pages04.net/ ?

WMF has given them a copy of (a subset of..?) the donor email list, as
this link has Peter's email address on the page:

https://www.pages04.net/wikimedia/WMFUnsubscribe/Unsubscribe?spMailingID=52077018=Mzk5NjI0Mzk2ODUS1=OTgyOTg3MDUyS0=OTgyOTg3MDUyS0

If you dont want to try that link, the following will give you a
general idea of the form donors are being directed to:

https://www.pages04.net/wikimedia/WMFUnsubscribe/

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2016 call for Board Governance Committee Volunteer and Advisory members [results]

2016-08-17 Thread Delphine Ménard
Anders said it all. This announcement is so many kind of cool I don't
know where to begin. So just YAY! Thanks for the initiative, thanks
for volunteering.

Delphine

On 16 August 2016 at 20:57, Anders Wennersten  wrote:
> I joined the movement in 2007. I was then overwhelmed by the beauty and
> strength of the concept and the content in the projects. But at the same
> time I was underwhelmed by the support structure behind. Even if Delphine
> and Brion were good in talking with everyone and fixing technique and
> Florence in chairing the operations, it was surely not up to the needs.
>
> For me a milestone in getting a professional support structure in place was
> in 2012, when the Haifa agreement was realized and the FDC (and
> narrowing-focus) got in place. FDC was as fascinating for me as the base
> concept of the projects and as much true to the values of the movement. And
> besides the clever colleagues in the committee I got to know  some truly
> admirable individuals, like Kate Welsh, Garfield, Gayle and of course
> Anasuya (and a little later Katy and Bishakha). Sometimes I feel that in the
> movement there are the best people you can find anywhere. But at the same
> time there were underwhelming issues, like a partly dysfunctional Board and
> that WMF operations was neither properly working nor reviewed (by FDC).
>
> I now see that in 2016 a new milestone is being passed when the movement (at
> last) gets a professional support structure on par with the needs.  I
> perceive the tech org now working well and user driven, that the budget
> process now has been run professional and that there is a good management
> team in place for the running of WMF. And after seeing a lot of good
> initiatives around the working of the Board where this announcement is the
> thing that get the keyelement in place,  I also believe the Board is now up
> to become as professional as is needed for the movement. And the joy of
> seeing the names of many of my all time favourites back (in part also in
> FDC) is profound.
>
> Welcome all of you and looking forward to read of the resolutions from this
> enhanced BGC
>
> Anders
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Den 2016-08-16 kl. 15:47, skrev Nataliia Tymkiv:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I am honestly delighted to announce the results of the public call for
>> Board Governance committee volunteer and Advisory members, announced on
>> July 15, 2016  [1]. We received nine applications, and after discussing
>> them with BGC and reviewing the committee's needs and interviewing a short
>> list of candidates,I have chosen five volunteer advisory members for the
>> committee. I'd like to extend my thanks to everyone who offered to serve
>> on
>> the committee.
>>
>> Please find below a short introduction for our new volunteer advisory
>> members. They are all quite well known in the movement and I think their
>> insights would be helpful. They join the Committee once they sign the
>> documents that Stephen LaPorte, our Interim Secretary, sent to them (the
>> same ones as the Board members sign - the confidentiality agreement
>>
>> 
>> , code of conduct
>>
>> 
>> , conflict of interest disclosure
>> ).
>>
>> === Gayle Karen Young ===
>>
>> Gayle Karen Young is a WMF's former Chief Talent and Culture office. In
>> her
>> time at Wikimedia, she was accountable for building the current HR team
>> and
>> had an active hand in board development and staffed the board HR
>> committee.
>> She brings experience with the Wikimedia movement, with the workings of
>> the
>> Foundation, and through her own consulting work in leadership and board
>> development with organizations in both the for-profit and non-profit
>> space,
>> and in technology and human rights.
>>
>> === Kat Walsh ===
>>
>> Kat Walsh is a former member of Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees,
>> 12/2006-8/2013 (Chair, 2012-2013; Executive Secretary, 2009-2010). Now she
>> works as an attorney specializing in copyright, Internet law, and free and
>> open source software.
>>
>>
>> === Tim Moritz Hector ===
>>
>> Tim Moritz Hector is Chair of the Board of Wikimedia Deutschland since
>> 2014. Tim has been an active Wikimedian for more than eight years and was
>> engaged in several positions on national and international level. His most
>> recent engagement (with Frans Grijzenhout from WMNL) is focussed on
>> building the capacities of board members in all Wikimedia-organizations.
>> He
>> is going to finish his B.A. in politics and german philology this month
>> and
>> shall work as an advisor to the ED at the "Academy for volunteerism" in
>> Berlin beginning in September.
>>
>> === Ido Ivry ===
>>
>> Ido Ivry is a board member of Wikimedia Israel. He has extensive NGO
>> experience, as well as 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FW: My final email

2016-08-17 Thread Craig Franklin
Well, he *did* say it was his final email!

I'd imagine the unsubscribe link would get you off the "former donors we
can spam" list without removing you from this august list.

Cheers,
Craig

On 17 August 2016 at 18:52, Peter Southwood 
wrote:

> Is there any way to unsubscribe from these annoying and in my opinion
> misleading spam mails purporting to come from Jimmy Wales without
> unsubscribing from any other Wikimedia mailing lists or e-mail
> notifications?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> From: ji...@wikipedia.org [mailto:don...@wikimedia.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2016 10:01 AM
> To: peter.southw...@telkomsa.net
> Subject: My final email
>
>
>
> Inside this email: fun fact from Wikipedia
>
>
>
>
>   utm_medium=email=Appeal-JimmyQuote_source=
> sp52077018=35.00=en_id=7476197_id=1>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Peter,
>
> When the clock strikes midnight, our email fundraiser will end — but we
> haven't yet hit our goal. Please take one minute to renew your R 50 <
> https://donate.wikimedia.org/?utm_campaign=C1617_Email3;
> utm_medium=email=Appeal-JimmyQuote_source=
> sp52077018=35.00=en_id=7476197_id=2>  donation
> to Wikipedia.
>
> If all our past donors simply gave again today, we wouldn't have to worry
> about fundraising for the rest of the year.
>
> We’re a small nonprofit. We’re independent. We don’t run ads or sell
> services to our readers. Though our size requires us to maintain the server
> space and programming power of a top site, we are sustained by the support
> of our donors who give an average of about R 175. This year, will you take
> one minute to keep our work going?
>
>
>
>   utm_medium=email=Appeal-JimmyQuote_source=
> sp52077018=35.00=en_id=7476197_id=b1> R 50 »
>
>
>
>
>   utm_medium=email=Appeal-JimmyQuote_source=
> sp52077018=35.00=en_id=7476197_id=b2> R 100 »
>
>
>
>
>
>   utm_medium=email=Appeal-JimmyQuote_source=
> sp52077018=35.00=en_id=7476197_id=b3> R 300 »
>
>
>
>
>   utm_medium=email=Appeal-JimmyQuote_source=
> sp52077018=35.00=en_id=7476197_id=b4> Other »
>
>
>
>
>
>   utm_medium=email=Appeal-JimmyQuote_source=
> sp52077018=35.00=en_id=7476197_id=
> 5=50.00> Renew your donation: R 50 »
>
> Thank you,
> Jimmy Wales
> Wikipedia Founder
>
>
>
>   utm_medium=email=Appeal-JimmyQuote_source=
> sp52077018=35.00=en_id=7476197_id=4> DONATE NOW »
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[Wikimedia-l] FW: My final email

2016-08-17 Thread Peter Southwood
Is there any way to unsubscribe from these annoying and in my opinion 
misleading spam mails purporting to come from Jimmy Wales without unsubscribing 
from any other Wikimedia mailing lists or e-mail notifications?

Cheers,

Peter

 

From: ji...@wikipedia.org [mailto:don...@wikimedia.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2016 10:01 AM
To: peter.southw...@telkomsa.net
Subject: My final email

 

Inside this email: fun fact from Wikipedia 




 

 


 

Dear Peter,

When the clock strikes midnight, our email fundraiser will end — but we haven't 
yet hit our goal. Please take one minute to renew your R 50 

  donation to Wikipedia.

If all our past donors simply gave again today, we wouldn't have to worry about 
fundraising for the rest of the year.

We’re a small nonprofit. We’re independent. We don’t run ads or sell services 
to our readers. Though our size requires us to maintain the server space and 
programming power of a top site, we are sustained by the support of our donors 
who give an average of about R 175. This year, will you take one minute to keep 
our work going?



 

 R 50 »

 


 

 R 100 »

 



 

 R 300 »

 


 

 Other »

 



 

 Renew your donation: R 50 »

Thank you,
Jimmy Wales
Wikipedia Founder



 

 DONATE NOW »


 

 

 



You are receiving this email at peter.southw...@telkomsa.net as a valued donor 
of the Wikimedia Foundation. If you do not wish to receive any future emails 
from the Wikimedia Foundation, unsubscribe instantly 

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