Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Publicpolicy] Update on FISA 702 reauthorization

2018-01-20 Thread Lodewijk 
1) still don't see the relevance. If better technology is needed, it's
needed - that should be independent of any lobbying preferences. It looks
like you're just pushing tangents again.

2) You do realize that the FTC and the FEC are very different
organizations? But again, it seems you just used this statement as an
opportunity to push a tangent.

Please don't do that.

Thanks,
Lodewijk

On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 2:43 PM, James Salsman  wrote:

> > 1) I don't quite see how your question about servers and switches relates
> > to Stephen's statement. Could you explain for us mere mortals how you
> link
> > the two?
>
> The NSA surveillance which was reauthorized by Congress can not depend
> on eavesdropping alone with new HTTPS cyphers. It needs compromised
> hardware to work, such as has been included in Dell servers since the
> Foundation started purchasing them, and the design of which was
> overseen by the Foundation's CTO, who worked then at Intel. This
> provides us with the know-how, a teachable moment, and an excellent
> opportunity to specify and acquire replacement open source hardware
> which doesn't have the DIETYBOUNCE / System Management Mode OOB / iAMT
> and related backdoors.
>
> https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/01/nsa_exploit_of.html
>
> > 2) I somehow missed the commitment by the WMF to research "FEC
> requirements
> > of organized advocates for US political candidates' or anything that
> > suggests that the WMF may advocate for specific political candidates
> (which
> > seems a change of course that would be hard to sweep under the rug).
> Could
> > you quote?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_
> talk:Conflict_of_interest=prev=815460492#
> Note_from_Wikimedia_Legal
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#
> Research_topic_request
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Publicpolicy] Update on FISA 702 reauthorization

2018-01-20 Thread geni 
On 20 January 2018 at 22:43, James Salsman  wrote:
> The NSA surveillance which was reauthorized by Congress can not depend
> on eavesdropping alone with new HTTPS cyphers. It needs compromised
> hardware to work,


Meltdown suggests otherwise. In any case EternalBlue and Stuxnet made
it clear that the hardware is irrelevant.

The reality is that the WMF doesn't have the resources to prevent a
state level actor from gaining access to its servers. Switching to
little used, little supported and more expensive hardware simply
weakens the WMF position even further since attackers no longer have
to factor in the risk of burning a valuable exploit. So not much
changed since 2013.


-- 
geni

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[Wikimedia-l] Yearly prize (WikiUilen) of Dutch Wikipedia awarded to most valued contributions of 2017

2018-01-20 Thread Romaine Wiki 
Dear all,

On the Dutch Wikipedia it has become a tradition to award each year the
most valued contributions of users and projects and give them extra
appreciation in the form of a prize. The prize is inspired on the similar
one of the German language Wikipedia.

Today during the new year's event of Wikimedia Nederland in Utrecht, the
yearly WikiUilen have been awarded to the most valued contributions to the
Dutch Wikipedia in 2017.


In six categories, the community nominated and voted which projects were
especially valued. All valuable contributions are welcome on Wikipedia, but
today the most valued ones received their prize.

See for the result here:
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiUilen/2017
View the photos here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:WikiUilen_ceremony_2017,_20_January_2018


For the organising committee WikiUilen Academie,
Romaine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Publicpolicy] Update on FISA 702 reauthorization

2018-01-20 Thread James Salsman 
> 1) I don't quite see how your question about servers and switches relates
> to Stephen's statement. Could you explain for us mere mortals how you link
> the two?

The NSA surveillance which was reauthorized by Congress can not depend
on eavesdropping alone with new HTTPS cyphers. It needs compromised
hardware to work, such as has been included in Dell servers since the
Foundation started purchasing them, and the design of which was
overseen by the Foundation's CTO, who worked then at Intel. This
provides us with the know-how, a teachable moment, and an excellent
opportunity to specify and acquire replacement open source hardware
which doesn't have the DIETYBOUNCE / System Management Mode OOB / iAMT
and related backdoors.

https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/01/nsa_exploit_of.html

> 2) I somehow missed the commitment by the WMF to research "FEC requirements
> of organized advocates for US political candidates' or anything that
> suggests that the WMF may advocate for specific political candidates (which
> seems a change of course that would be hard to sweep under the rug). Could
> you quote?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Conflict_of_interest=prev=815460492#Note_from_Wikimedia_Legal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#Research_topic_request

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Publicpolicy] Update on FISA 702 reauthorization

2018-01-20 Thread Lodewijk 
Hi Jim,

I'm afraid I don't quite follow.
1) I don't quite see how your question about servers and switches relates
to Stephen's statement. Could you explain for us mere mortals how you link
the two?
2) I somehow missed the commitment by the WMF to research "FEC requirements
of organized advocates for US political candidates' or anything that
suggests that the WMF may advocate for specific political candidates (which
seems a change of course that would be hard to sweep under the rug). Could
you quote?

Thanks.

Lodewijk

On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 4:01 AM, James Salsman  wrote:

> How much would it cost to replace the servers and switches with open
> source hardware?
>
> Stephen, when do you expect to have the FEC requirements of organized
> advocates for US political candidates researched?
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Stephen LaPorte 
> Date: Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 2:23 AM
> Subject: [Publicpolicy] Update on FISA 702 reauthorization
> To: Publicpolicy Group for Wikimedia 
>
>
> Hello All,
>
> Earlier this month, the Wikimedia Foundation, along with a coalition
> of 43 civil liberties, civil rights, and transparency organizations,
> signed a letter urging Congress to reform Section 702 of the Foreign
> Intelligence Surveillance Act, the law that allegedly authorizes the
> mass surveillance challenged in our lawsuit, Wikimedia Foundation v.
> National Security Agency. In the letter, we urged Congress to oppose a
> straightforward reauthorization of the law and to support meaningful
> reforms.
>
> On January 11th, the U.S. House of Representatives quashed the
> opportunity for those reforms by voting to reauthorize Section 702
> with minimal changes. The bill then went to the U.S. Senate for
> further consideration. Despite opposition in the Senate from both
> major political parties, on January 16th, a filibuster to block the
> bill narrowly failed. Yesterday, the bill cleared the Senate, and it
> was signed into law today.
>
> Although we are deeply disappointed in this result, the Wikimedia
> Foundation will continue to fight for user privacy, including in
> Wikimedia Foundation v. NSA. We will keep you updated on further
> developments.
>
> Best,
> Stephen
>
> --
> Stephen LaPorte
> Legal Director
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
> NOTICE: As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal and
> ethical reasons, I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer
> for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal
> capacity. For more on what this means, please see our legal
> disclaimer.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Wikimania Scholarships

2018-01-20 Thread DerHexer 
Hi all,
It's only few hours left before the application deadline will be reached on 
Monday, 22 January 23:59 UTC. We are making this final call earlier than before 
because we want to give you enough time to good applications and don't want you 
to run into last-minute issues like timeouts, downtimes, etc. Good luck!
Best,Martin

  Von: DerHexer 
 An: Wikimania general list (open subscription) 
; Wikimedia Mailing List 
 
 Gesendet: 20:07 Mittwoch, 20.Dezember 2017
 Betreff: Call for Wikimania Scholarships
   
Hi all,

We wanted to inform you that scholarship applications for Wikimania 2018 which 
is being held in Cape Town, South Africa on July 18–22, 2018 are now being 
accepted. Applications are open until Monday, 22 January 2018 23:59 UTC.

Applicants will be able to apply for a partial or full scholarship. A full 
scholarship will cover the cost of an individual's round-trip travel, shared 
accommodation, and conference registration fees as arranged by the Wikimedia 
Foundation. A partial scholarship will cover conference registration fees and 
shared accommodation.

Applicants will be rated using a pre-determined selection process and selection 
criteria established by the Scholarship Committee and the Wikimedia Foundation, 
who will determine which applications are successful.

To learn more about Wikimania 2018 scholarships, please visit: 
https://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/Scholarships

To apply for a scholarship, fill out the multi-language application form 
on:https://scholarships.wikim edia.org/apply

It is highly recommended that applicants review all the material on the 
Scholarships page and the associated FAQ ( 
https://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/Scholarships/FAQ ) before submitting 
an application.

If you have any questions, please contact: wikimania-scholarships@wikime 
dia.org or leave a message at: 
https://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Scholarships.

Please help us spread the word and translate pages!

Best regards,

David Richfield and Martin Rulsch
for the Scholarship Committee
https://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/Scholarship_committee   
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[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Publicpolicy] Update on FISA 702 reauthorization

2018-01-20 Thread James Salsman 
How much would it cost to replace the servers and switches with open
source hardware?

Stephen, when do you expect to have the FEC requirements of organized
advocates for US political candidates researched?


-- Forwarded message --
From: Stephen LaPorte 
Date: Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 2:23 AM
Subject: [Publicpolicy] Update on FISA 702 reauthorization
To: Publicpolicy Group for Wikimedia 


Hello All,

Earlier this month, the Wikimedia Foundation, along with a coalition
of 43 civil liberties, civil rights, and transparency organizations,
signed a letter urging Congress to reform Section 702 of the Foreign
Intelligence Surveillance Act, the law that allegedly authorizes the
mass surveillance challenged in our lawsuit, Wikimedia Foundation v.
National Security Agency. In the letter, we urged Congress to oppose a
straightforward reauthorization of the law and to support meaningful
reforms.

On January 11th, the U.S. House of Representatives quashed the
opportunity for those reforms by voting to reauthorize Section 702
with minimal changes. The bill then went to the U.S. Senate for
further consideration. Despite opposition in the Senate from both
major political parties, on January 16th, a filibuster to block the
bill narrowly failed. Yesterday, the bill cleared the Senate, and it
was signed into law today.

Although we are deeply disappointed in this result, the Wikimedia
Foundation will continue to fight for user privacy, including in
Wikimedia Foundation v. NSA. We will keep you updated on further
developments.

Best,
Stephen

--
Stephen LaPorte
Legal Director
Wikimedia Foundation

NOTICE: As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal and
ethical reasons, I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer
for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal
capacity. For more on what this means, please see our legal
disclaimer.

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