Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ombuds Commission now accepting nominations for 2020

2019-10-09 Thread Risker 
Just noting in passing that, technically, the Ombudsman Commission formally
reports to the WMF Board of Trustees, which has in turn delegated the
ongoing management and responsibility for the commission to the WMF Trust &
Safety Department.  In other words, the OC has always been a "WMF"
committee, charged with enforcing WMF board-approved policies, most
particularly the privacy policy.

Risker/Anne

On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 16:44, Pine W  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Sorry that I'm late replying to this thread. I have been very busy in the
> past few weeks.
>
> I have a proposal that likely will not affect the current round of
> appointments because implementation would require some time and careful
> deliberation. This proposal isn't intended as a personal critique.
>
> I would like to see the selection process for OC be done by the community
> with WMF consent, similar to how stewards are appointed. I think it's
> important that community members not be viewed as agents of WMF, and the
> current system for OC appointments seems to imply that WMF has authority to
> oversee or to control the use of advanced permissions and the OC as an
> organization. I think that this should be flipped, with WMF supporting
> community institutions and not the other way around. I'm okay with WMF
> being involved in the selection process for OC candidates by conducting
> background checks on candidates and having some limited veto authority, but
> WMF's role should primarily be one of providing support to community
> members and institutions such as the OC.
>
> Thank you for listening.
>
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ombuds Commission now accepting nominations for 2020

2019-10-09 Thread Pine W 
Hello,

Sorry that I'm late replying to this thread. I have been very busy in the
past few weeks.

I have a proposal that likely will not affect the current round of
appointments because implementation would require some time and careful
deliberation. This proposal isn't intended as a personal critique.

I would like to see the selection process for OC be done by the community
with WMF consent, similar to how stewards are appointed. I think it's
important that community members not be viewed as agents of WMF, and the
current system for OC appointments seems to imply that WMF has authority to
oversee or to control the use of advanced permissions and the OC as an
organization. I think that this should be flipped, with WMF supporting
community institutions and not the other way around. I'm okay with WMF
being involved in the selection process for OC candidates by conducting
background checks on candidates and having some limited veto authority, but
WMF's role should primarily be one of providing support to community
members and institutions such as the OC.

Thank you for listening.

Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [LGBT] Best practices for awarding scholarships

2019-10-09 Thread Isaac Olatunde 
I completely agree with Risker here. In the recent time, most (if not all)
Wikipedian of the year award recipients now have a Wikipedia article.

One would wonder if Wikipedia of the year award confers notability.

This is not to disrespect our WOTY but I do honestly feel that users who
are not notable apart from receiving the award does not merit a Wikipedia
article.

Regards,

Isaac

On Wed, Oct 9, 2019, 4:10 PM Risker  I've never created a Wikidata profile about anyone, not even someone who is
> widely known.  I've never created or edited a biographical article about
> someone who isn't really obviously notable, and who has a broad and widely
> known profile as verified in multiple non-Wikimedia (or
> Wikipedia/Wikimedia-related) sources.
>
> No, I would never create an article about a Wikimedian - or a Wikidata
> profile either - unless they are clearly and obviously notable outside of
> our little microcosm.  Frankly, with very few exceptions, almost nobody
> whose "notability" is primarily related to this movement is actually
> notable in the strictest reading of the policies of most of our Wikipedia
> projects.  As far as I'm concerned, most of the Wikipedia/Wikimedia/other
> project-related articles on most of our projects are a prime example of
> navel-gazing rather than actual notability.
>
> Further, I think it's terrible use of Wikidata to use it to store what are
> essentially the personnel records of Wikimedia volunteers.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
>
>
> On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 09:52, Henry Wood  wrote:
>
> > Risker
> >
> > > I'm pretty shocked at this idea; in fact, if someone created a Wikidata
> > > profile about me, I'd have it taken down under applicable legislation.
> >
> > ... and yet you are an energetic volunteer for projects that assert
> > the right to do that to other people?
> >
> > Henry
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [LGBT] Best practices for awarding scholarships

2019-10-09 Thread Risker 
I've never created a Wikidata profile about anyone, not even someone who is
widely known.  I've never created or edited a biographical article about
someone who isn't really obviously notable, and who has a broad and widely
known profile as verified in multiple non-Wikimedia (or
Wikipedia/Wikimedia-related) sources.

No, I would never create an article about a Wikimedian - or a Wikidata
profile either - unless they are clearly and obviously notable outside of
our little microcosm.  Frankly, with very few exceptions, almost nobody
whose "notability" is primarily related to this movement is actually
notable in the strictest reading of the policies of most of our Wikipedia
projects.  As far as I'm concerned, most of the Wikipedia/Wikimedia/other
project-related articles on most of our projects are a prime example of
navel-gazing rather than actual notability.

Further, I think it's terrible use of Wikidata to use it to store what are
essentially the personnel records of Wikimedia volunteers.

Risker/Anne



On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 09:52, Henry Wood  wrote:

> Risker
>
> > I'm pretty shocked at this idea; in fact, if someone created a Wikidata
> > profile about me, I'd have it taken down under applicable legislation.
>
> ... and yet you are an energetic volunteer for projects that assert
> the right to do that to other people?
>
> Henry
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [LGBT] Best practices for awarding scholarships

2019-10-09 Thread ferdinando traversa 
I don't think Wikidata was projected to do this :D Should we instead create
a WikiEventsHub with Wikibase installed?

Regards,
Ferdinando.

Il giorno lun 7 ott 2019 alle ore 22:39 Lane Rasberry 
ha scritto:

> Hello,
>
> I have wished that eventually when people apply for scholarships or even
> when they attend wiki events they create profiles for themselves in
> Wikidata so that we could generate visualizations of the demographics of
> participants.
>
> I do not think the wiki movement is quite ready for this, but if we
> actually want to track and report demographics, doing so in Wikidata is
> probably the way most natural for the wiki community.
>
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 9:27 AM Fæ  wrote:
>
> > Plans for a Wikimedia LGBT+ conference and workshops in 2020 are
> > moving forward. We would very much like to learn and borrow successful
> > experiences from other conferences. This conference is expected to be
> > relatively modest in size, around 50 attendees, and is to be hosted in
> > Linz, Austria.
> >
> > We are planning on opening up applications for scholarships very soon,
> > to allow several months for early booking of travel tickets and visa
> > applications where needed. Naturally this means we have to create a
> > process for assessing applications to a hopefully short and
> > non-subjective checklist (we are all volunteers after all!).
> >
> > Can anyone recommend documented good practices for assessing
> > applications for travel grants and expenses for similar sized events?
> > Some issues we have discussed that need to be addressed before
> > finalizing our policies are:
> > * Creating a fair assessment process that balances the diversity of
> > attendees against other metrics like on-project experience, for
> > example ensuring that we have a healthy gender balance and a wide
> > geographic representation
> > * Whether it may be better to prefer the simplicity of assessing for
> > full scholarships, or whether partial payments are a good way of
> > ensuring wider access
> > * How to draw up rules for travel and partial scholarships for folks
> > planning on making this part of a holiday, as often happens for those
> > travelling long distances
> > * When to recommend that specific Wikimedia Affiliates should provide
> > grants and expenses, which may have additional requirements for
> > applications and reporting
> > * How to build in incentives for greener travel options, even where
> > this may not be the cheapest option
> >
> > You can read the conference proposal at
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Conference/Kawayashu/Queering_Wikipedia
> > and everyone is welcome to provide suggestions and feedback on the
> > discussion page there, if on-wiki editing works better for you than
> > email. :-)
> >
> > Thanks
> > Fae
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [LGBT] Best practices for awarding scholarships

2019-10-09 Thread Henry Wood 
Risker

> I'm pretty shocked at this idea; in fact, if someone created a Wikidata
> profile about me, I'd have it taken down under applicable legislation.

... and yet you are an energetic volunteer for projects that assert
the right to do that to other people?

Henry

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