Re: [Wikimedia-l] בקשה למרואיין

2013-03-12 Thread Christophe Henner

Envoye depuis mon Blackberry

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Και εγώ συμφωνώ, ας γράψουμε σε όλες τις κλασικές γλώσσες. :)

- Μάρκος

On 3/12/13 3:44 AM, Erwin Mulialim wrote:
 Good morning all,
   
 I also strongly agree and support when we can use multi language in this 
 mailing list, such as by including the Indonesian language into the 
 “Wikimedia Mailing List” (wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org).

 May GOD Bless All of You!


 Best Regards,

 Claudius Erwin Mulialim
 
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 (CV. Montée Vista Media Vision)

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 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 14:10:15 -0700
 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] בקשה למרואיין

 No bad words.  My phrase was לשון הרע, which is a legal term in Israel,
 originating in Jewish religious law[1], roughly equivalent to defamation or
 the Roman law 'calumnia', and I was advocating _avoiding_ that if anyone
 chooses to discuss this person (from the Hebrew Wikipedia's past) with the
 press.

 A.

 [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lashon_hara


 On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I too thought the gmail translate worked really well, until I saw Asaf
 suggest they stop using bad words - which I guess gmail stripped out,
 because I didn't see any!

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] בקשה למרואיין- translation tool

2013-03-12 Thread Mathieu Stumpf

Le 2013-03-11 22:05, Nathan a écrit :
I too thought the gmail translate worked really well, until I saw 
Asaf

suggest they stop using bad words - which I guess gmail stripped out,
because I didn't see any!


Hey by the way, do you know good free/libre translation tools? 
Especialy when it come to idiomatic locutions, the best free(/non-libre) 
online tool I currently know is linguee[1] which built a translation 
database, mainly with UN documents.


I don't know for the statute of UN documents, but the idea to give you 
a set of human translated equivalents is very interesting. And I think 
it may be an idea to launch such a project within wikimedia, based on 
not a moving target text translations, like texts on wikisource for 
example. Would that interest anyone else ?


[1] https://www.linguee.com/

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] בקשה למרואיין

2013-03-12 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2013/3/12 Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.org:
 Le 2013-03-11 20:56, Michael Snow a écrit :

 On 3/11/2013 12:47 PM, Itzik Edri wrote:

 Oops. Just noticed that I sent this email to Wikimedia-L instead of WMIL
 mailing list. Sorry! :)

 Too bad - I was hoping it was a sign that people were taking
 seriously the notion that this could be a multilingual mailing list,
 not just English-only.

 --Michael Snow


 Ĉu vi proponas, ke ni parolas internacian lingvon? :P

Mi pensas ke bezonas skribi ke ni parolus, sed mi povas esti malkorekta.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] בקשה למרואיין

2013-03-12 Thread Mathieu Stumpf

Le 2013-03-12 03:39, Erwin Mulialim a écrit :

Good morning all, I also strongly agree and support when we can use
multi language in this mailing list, such as by including the
Indonesian language into the “Wikimedia Mailing List”
(wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org).

May GOD Bless All of You!


Could it be that GOD generated so much human beings that it[1] can't 
bless them all?[2] ;P


[1] or do you say s/he ?
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnipotence_paradox

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] בקשה למרואיין- translation tool

2013-03-12 Thread Peter Coombe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_machine_translation_applicationslists
a few free/open ones.

Pete / the wub


On 12 March 2013 13:15, Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.orgwrote:

 Le 2013-03-11 22:05, Nathan a écrit :

 I too thought the gmail translate worked really well, until I saw Asaf
 suggest they stop using bad words - which I guess gmail stripped out,
 because I didn't see any!


 Hey by the way, do you know good free/libre translation tools? Especialy
 when it come to idiomatic locutions, the best free(/non-libre) online tool
 I currently know is linguee[1] which built a translation database, mainly
 with UN documents.

 I don't know for the statute of UN documents, but the idea to give you a
 set of human translated equivalents is very interesting. And I think it may
 be an idea to launch such a project within wikimedia, based on not a
 moving target text translations, like texts on wikisource for example.
 Would that interest anyone else ?

 [1] https://www.linguee.com/

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] בקשה למרואיין

2013-03-12 Thread Mathieu Stumpf

Le 2013-03-12 14:47, Amir E. Aharoni a écrit :

2013/3/12 Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.org:

Le 2013-03-11 20:56, Michael Snow a écrit :


On 3/11/2013 12:47 PM, Itzik Edri wrote:


Oops. Just noticed that I sent this email to Wikimedia-L instead 
of WMIL

mailing list. Sorry! :)


Too bad - I was hoping it was a sign that people were taking
seriously the notion that this could be a multilingual mailing 
list,

not just English-only.

--Michael Snow



Ĉu vi proponas, ke ni parolas internacian lingvon? :P


Mi pensas ke bezonas skribi ke ni parolus, sed mi povas esti 
malkorekta.


Mi kredas ke vi pravas. Pardonu min, mi komenciĝas.



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[Wikimedia-l] בקשה למרואיין

2013-03-11 Thread Itzik Edri
כתב מעיתון מוביל מבקש לדבר עם מישהו על בן הטבע.

מישהו מעוניין?


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הי איציק, בהמשך לשיחתנו, אני מעוניין לדבר עם עורך שהיה שם מימיה הראשונים של
ויקיפדיה העברית, ומכיר מקרוב את יהודה בלו, שערך בעבר תחת השם בן הטבע לפני
שהושעה ונחסם. ברצוני לשמוע את הסיפור המלא על מה שקרה שם,
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] בקשה למרואיין

2013-03-11 Thread Manuel Schneider
מצטער, אני לא מדבר עברית.

מנואל

Am 11.03.2013 14:36, schrieb Itzik Edri:
 כתב מעיתון מוביל מבקש לדבר עם מישהו על בן הטבע.
 
 מישהו מעוניין?
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] בקשה למרואיין

2013-03-11 Thread Asaf Bartov
אני לא בטוח שכתבה כזו תועיל למטרותינו בשום צורה.

אם מישהו בכל זאת רוצה לספר את הסיפור, אני ממליץ להיזהר מלשון הרע.

- אסף


2013/3/11 Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il

 כתב מעיתון מוביל מבקש לדבר עם מישהו על בן הטבע.

 מישהו מעוניין?


 -- Forwarded message --

 To: it...@wikimedia.org.il


 הי איציק, בהמשך לשיחתנו, אני מעוניין לדבר עם עורך שהיה שם מימיה הראשונים של
 ויקיפדיה העברית, ומכיר מקרוב את יהודה בלו, שערך בעבר תחת השם בן הטבע לפני
 שהושעה ונחסם. ברצוני לשמוע את הסיפור המלא על מה שקרה שם,
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] בקשה למרואיין

2013-03-11 Thread Itzik Edri
Oops. Just noticed that I sent this email to Wikimedia-L instead of WMIL
mailing list. Sorry! :)

2013/3/11 Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch

 מצטער, אני לא מדבר עברית.

 מנואל

 Am 11.03.2013 14:36, schrieb Itzik Edri:
  כתב מעיתון מוביל מבקש לדבר עם מישהו על בן הטבע.
 
  מישהו מעוניין?
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] בקשה למרואיין

2013-03-11 Thread Michael Snow

On 3/11/2013 12:47 PM, Itzik Edri wrote:

Oops. Just noticed that I sent this email to Wikimedia-L instead of WMIL
mailing list. Sorry! :)
Too bad - I was hoping it was a sign that people were taking seriously 
the notion that this could be a multilingual mailing list, not just 
English-only.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] בקשה למרואיין

2013-03-11 Thread Fae
On 11 March 2013 19:56, Michael Snow wikipe...@frontier.com wrote:
 Too bad - I was hoping it was a sign that people were taking seriously the
 notion that this could be a multilingual mailing list, not just
 English-only.

Me too, I thought it was rather refreshing for folks to be
corresponding here in something other than English; even though that's
all I can read. :-)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] בקשה למרואיין

2013-03-11 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
grin there is always Google translate ... works quite nicely from within
gmail for many languages.
Thanks,
  Gerard


On 11 March 2013 21:11, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 11 March 2013 19:56, Michael Snow wikipe...@frontier.com wrote:
  Too bad - I was hoping it was a sign that people were taking seriously
 the
  notion that this could be a multilingual mailing list, not just
  English-only.

 Me too, I thought it was rather refreshing for folks to be
 corresponding here in something other than English; even though that's
 all I can read. :-)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] בקשה למרואיין

2013-03-11 Thread Nathan
I too thought the gmail translate worked really well, until I saw Asaf
suggest they stop using bad words - which I guess gmail stripped out,
because I didn't see any!

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] בקשה למרואיין

2013-03-11 Thread Asaf Bartov
No bad words.  My phrase was לשון הרע, which is a legal term in Israel,
originating in Jewish religious law[1], roughly equivalent to defamation or
the Roman law 'calumnia', and I was advocating _avoiding_ that if anyone
chooses to discuss this person (from the Hebrew Wikipedia's past) with the
press.

   A.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lashon_hara


On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I too thought the gmail translate worked really well, until I saw Asaf
 suggest they stop using bad words - which I guess gmail stripped out,
 because I didn't see any!

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] בקשה למרואיין

2013-03-11 Thread Erwin Mulialim
Good morning all, I also strongly agree and support when we can use multi 
language in this mailing list, such as by including the Indonesian language 
into the “Wikimedia Mailing List” (wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org).

May GOD Bless All of You!


Best Regards,

Claudius Erwin Mulialim

Owner Q-Tech Computer - Ruteng
(CV. Montée Vista Media Vision)

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  From: abar...@wikimedia.org
 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 14:10:15 -0700
 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] בקשה למרואיין
 
 No bad words.  My phrase was לשון הרע, which is a legal term in Israel,
 originating in Jewish religious law[1], roughly equivalent to defamation or
 the Roman law 'calumnia', and I was advocating _avoiding_ that if anyone
 chooses to discuss this person (from the Hebrew Wikipedia's past) with the
 press.
 
A.
 
 [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lashon_hara
 
 
 On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I too thought the gmail translate worked really well, until I saw Asaf
  suggest they stop using bad words - which I guess gmail stripped out,
  because I didn't see any!
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] בקשה למרואיין

2013-03-11 Thread Erwin Mulialim
Good morning all,
 
I also strongly agree and support when we can use multi language in this 
mailing list, such as by including the Indonesian language into the “Wikimedia 
Mailing List” (wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org).

May GOD Bless All of You!


Best Regards,

Claudius Erwin Mulialim

Owner Q-Tech Computer - Ruteng
(CV. Montée Vista Media Vision)

-
From: abar...@wikimedia.org
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 14:10:15 -0700
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] בקשה למרואיין

No bad words.  My phrase was לשון הרע, which is a legal term in Israel,
originating in Jewish religious law[1], roughly equivalent to defamation or
the Roman law 'calumnia', and I was advocating _avoiding_ that if anyone
chooses to discuss this person (from the Hebrew Wikipedia's past) with the
press.

A.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lashon_hara


On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I too thought the gmail translate worked really well, until I saw Asaf
 suggest they stop using bad words - which I guess gmail stripped out,
 because I didn't see any!

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] בקשה למרואיין

2013-03-11 Thread Mark

Και εγώ συμφωνώ, ας γράψουμε σε όλες τις κλασικές γλώσσες. :)

- Μάρκος

On 3/12/13 3:44 AM, Erwin Mulialim wrote:

Good morning all,
  
I also strongly agree and support when we can use multi language in this mailing list, such as by including the Indonesian language into the “Wikimedia Mailing List” (wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org).


May GOD Bless All of You!


Best Regards,

Claudius Erwin Mulialim

Owner Q-Tech Computer - Ruteng
(CV. Montée Vista Media Vision)

-
From: abar...@wikimedia.org
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 14:10:15 -0700
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] בקשה למרואיין

No bad words.  My phrase was לשון הרע, which is a legal term in Israel,
originating in Jewish religious law[1], roughly equivalent to defamation or
the Roman law 'calumnia', and I was advocating _avoiding_ that if anyone
chooses to discuss this person (from the Hebrew Wikipedia's past) with the
press.

A.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lashon_hara


On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:


I too thought the gmail translate worked really well, until I saw Asaf
suggest they stop using bad words - which I guess gmail stripped out,
because I didn't see any!

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