Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Outcomes of the Harmonization Sprint in Tunis

2019-10-02 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
Hi Henry,

Apparently things have changed since then: "
*The timeline will shift and we are looking into options for another round
of community input.*" (Nicole)

These are promising news from the core team, I hope this new round of
community input goes forward.

Best,
Paulo

Henry Wood  escreveu no dia quarta, 2/10/2019
à(s) 15:42:

> Paulo,
>
> There is nothing more for us to do, since community input closed on
> the 15 September.  The community will next be consulted on the
> implementation of the recommendations after they are finally agreed.
>
> Henry
>
> On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 18:08, Paulo Santos Perneta
>  wrote:
> >
> > " A second iteration of draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta
> > just before the sprint for
> > the communities’ information." - It's quite unclear what are we supposed
> to
> > do with this, since those recommendations most probably became outdated
> in
> > the course of the Tunis meetings in the days following their publication.
> > Are we supposed to do anything at all with them?
> >
> > Best,
> > Paulo
> >
> > Nicole Ebber  escreveu no dia segunda,
> > 30/09/2019 à(s) 17:27:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > We recently held the harmonization sprint in Tunis [1], where
> > > representatives from each working group met in person to continue
> bringing
> > > nine separate sets of draft recommendations into one set. The event
> also
> > > brought together staff members from the Wikimedia Foundation and
> Wikimedia
> > > Deutschland, the WMF Chair of the Board of Trustees, and members of the
> > > core team. A longer narrative report will be published in the coming
> weeks;
> > > in the meantime, see a short day-by-day report on Meta, photos on
> commons
> > > [2], and check out the hashtag #hs2030 on Twitter [3].
> > >
> > > In the lead up to the meeting, the working groups were busy refining
> their
> > > draft recommendations based on feedback received at in person events
> from
> > > Wikimedians across the movement as well as on wiki, via email, and on
> > > social media since March of this year. They had also begun identifying
> > > overlaps in each other’s recommendations and content. A second
> iteration of
> > > draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta just before the sprint
> for
> > > the communities’ information.
> > >
> > > At the sprint, we continued to group recommendations based on
> > > commonalities. From there, we looked at what kinds of structures would
> need
> > > to be in place to deliver the Wikimedia 2030 vision. A first, rough
> > > grouping of recommendations came together at the sprint. But what
> became
> > > clear during the event was that before it’s possible to create a
> coherent
> > > and actionable set of recommendations, fundamental principles that
> underpin
> > > the path towards 2030 need to be formalized.
> > >
> > > The core team is currently processing the discussion materials and
> > > outcomes. Analysis of the current draft recommendations will continue
> so as
> > > to create one unified set. The timeline will shift and we are looking
> into
> > > options for another round of community input.
> > >
> > > I would like to make clear that the reason we were not able to achieve
> our
> > > initial goal in Tunis was due to a lack of clarity and guidance on the
> core
> > > team’s part. Still, the time was not wasted and important, honest
> > > conversations were had. The working group members, as ever, devoted an
> > > enormous amount of energy and care in the lead up to and during the
> event,
> > > and demonstrated their deep understanding of the challenges and
> > > opportunities in our movement. We are extremely grateful for all their
> > > effort. In short, the harmonization sprint underlined the high level of
> > > work and dedication every single working group member has put into
> getting
> > > the movement strategy to its current point, and the passion to shape
> the
> > > future of the diverse and inclusive movement we envision.
> > >
> > > We have valuable lessons to take from this event and incorporate into
> the
> > > overall process and the next steps. We will share these with you all as
> > > soon as possible. If you have questions in the meantime, please feel
> free
> > > to reach out to me.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Nicole
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> > >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Harmonization_Sprint
> > > [2]
> > >
> > >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_2030_Harmonization_Sprint
> > > [3] https://twitter.com/search?q=%23hs2030
> > > [4]
> > >
> > >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Nicole Ebber
> > > Adviser International Relations
> > > Program Manager Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy
> > > Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
> > > Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0
> > > https://wikimedia.de
> > >
> > > Unsere Vision ist 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Outcomes of the Harmonization Sprint in Tunis

2019-10-02 Thread Pine W
Hello,

I hope that we can be candid about problems without becoming deeply
cynical. I think that there are many problems in WMF, but I also don't want
to demoralize good WMF board members, staff, or contractors (imagine what
would happen if the good ones all quit) or any strategy working group
contributors who consistently make sincere and competent efforts to support
the community. I'm willing to criticize, to ban, or to fire people, and to
cut budgets, but I try not to be excessively harsh or to have unrealistic
expectations. The strategy process is complicated and messy, and I am
hoping that some good comes from it regardless of the problems.

Regarding conference travel, while I don't know what happened at this
particular conference, when I attended the Wikimedia Conference in Berlin a
few years ago it was not a vacation. I paid for an extra day before the
conference began for tourist activities and to adjust to the time zone, and
I'm glad that I had the extra day. The conference itself overall was very
interesting, and I think that the vast majority of us who were there tried
to make good use of the time. My guess is that there were some serious
discussions at the strategy meeting.


Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Outcomes of the Harmonization Sprint in Tunis

2019-10-02 Thread Dan Szymborski
I'm not sure I could design a process more guaranteed to result in complete
resistance from the community if I tried. It's gobsmacking that far more
effort was made on putting together a nice little junket to Tunisia than
any sort of effort to seek community-buy-in. The working groups had
next-to-no direct interaction with any of the community's objections to the
proposals. But again, a trip to Tunis is a lot more fun than remedying risk
assessments with howlers like (I'm paraphrasing) "some people might not
like it" or "people can just leave the project."

On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 10:42 AM Henry Wood 
wrote:

> Paulo,
>
> There is nothing more for us to do, since community input closed on
> the 15 September.  The community will next be consulted on the
> implementation of the recommendations after they are finally agreed.
>
> Henry
>
> On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 18:08, Paulo Santos Perneta
>  wrote:
> >
> > " A second iteration of draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta
> > just before the sprint for
> > the communities’ information." - It's quite unclear what are we supposed
> to
> > do with this, since those recommendations most probably became outdated
> in
> > the course of the Tunis meetings in the days following their publication.
> > Are we supposed to do anything at all with them?
> >
> > Best,
> > Paulo
> >
> > Nicole Ebber  escreveu no dia segunda,
> > 30/09/2019 à(s) 17:27:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > We recently held the harmonization sprint in Tunis [1], where
> > > representatives from each working group met in person to continue
> bringing
> > > nine separate sets of draft recommendations into one set. The event
> also
> > > brought together staff members from the Wikimedia Foundation and
> Wikimedia
> > > Deutschland, the WMF Chair of the Board of Trustees, and members of the
> > > core team. A longer narrative report will be published in the coming
> weeks;
> > > in the meantime, see a short day-by-day report on Meta, photos on
> commons
> > > [2], and check out the hashtag #hs2030 on Twitter [3].
> > >
> > > In the lead up to the meeting, the working groups were busy refining
> their
> > > draft recommendations based on feedback received at in person events
> from
> > > Wikimedians across the movement as well as on wiki, via email, and on
> > > social media since March of this year. They had also begun identifying
> > > overlaps in each other’s recommendations and content. A second
> iteration of
> > > draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta just before the sprint
> for
> > > the communities’ information.
> > >
> > > At the sprint, we continued to group recommendations based on
> > > commonalities. From there, we looked at what kinds of structures would
> need
> > > to be in place to deliver the Wikimedia 2030 vision. A first, rough
> > > grouping of recommendations came together at the sprint. But what
> became
> > > clear during the event was that before it’s possible to create a
> coherent
> > > and actionable set of recommendations, fundamental principles that
> underpin
> > > the path towards 2030 need to be formalized.
> > >
> > > The core team is currently processing the discussion materials and
> > > outcomes. Analysis of the current draft recommendations will continue
> so as
> > > to create one unified set. The timeline will shift and we are looking
> into
> > > options for another round of community input.
> > >
> > > I would like to make clear that the reason we were not able to achieve
> our
> > > initial goal in Tunis was due to a lack of clarity and guidance on the
> core
> > > team’s part. Still, the time was not wasted and important, honest
> > > conversations were had. The working group members, as ever, devoted an
> > > enormous amount of energy and care in the lead up to and during the
> event,
> > > and demonstrated their deep understanding of the challenges and
> > > opportunities in our movement. We are extremely grateful for all their
> > > effort. In short, the harmonization sprint underlined the high level of
> > > work and dedication every single working group member has put into
> getting
> > > the movement strategy to its current point, and the passion to shape
> the
> > > future of the diverse and inclusive movement we envision.
> > >
> > > We have valuable lessons to take from this event and incorporate into
> the
> > > overall process and the next steps. We will share these with you all as
> > > soon as possible. If you have questions in the meantime, please feel
> free
> > > to reach out to me.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Nicole
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> > >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Harmonization_Sprint
> > > [2]
> > >
> > >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_2030_Harmonization_Sprint
> > > [3] https://twitter.com/search?q=%23hs2030
> > > [4]
> > >
> > >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations
> > >
> > >
> > > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Outcomes of the Harmonization Sprint in Tunis

2019-10-02 Thread Henry Wood
Paulo,

There is nothing more for us to do, since community input closed on
the 15 September.  The community will next be consulted on the
implementation of the recommendations after they are finally agreed.

Henry

On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 18:08, Paulo Santos Perneta
 wrote:
>
> " A second iteration of draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta
> just before the sprint for
> the communities’ information." - It's quite unclear what are we supposed to
> do with this, since those recommendations most probably became outdated in
> the course of the Tunis meetings in the days following their publication.
> Are we supposed to do anything at all with them?
>
> Best,
> Paulo
>
> Nicole Ebber  escreveu no dia segunda,
> 30/09/2019 à(s) 17:27:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > We recently held the harmonization sprint in Tunis [1], where
> > representatives from each working group met in person to continue bringing
> > nine separate sets of draft recommendations into one set. The event also
> > brought together staff members from the Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia
> > Deutschland, the WMF Chair of the Board of Trustees, and members of the
> > core team. A longer narrative report will be published in the coming weeks;
> > in the meantime, see a short day-by-day report on Meta, photos on commons
> > [2], and check out the hashtag #hs2030 on Twitter [3].
> >
> > In the lead up to the meeting, the working groups were busy refining their
> > draft recommendations based on feedback received at in person events from
> > Wikimedians across the movement as well as on wiki, via email, and on
> > social media since March of this year. They had also begun identifying
> > overlaps in each other’s recommendations and content. A second iteration of
> > draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta just before the sprint for
> > the communities’ information.
> >
> > At the sprint, we continued to group recommendations based on
> > commonalities. From there, we looked at what kinds of structures would need
> > to be in place to deliver the Wikimedia 2030 vision. A first, rough
> > grouping of recommendations came together at the sprint. But what became
> > clear during the event was that before it’s possible to create a coherent
> > and actionable set of recommendations, fundamental principles that underpin
> > the path towards 2030 need to be formalized.
> >
> > The core team is currently processing the discussion materials and
> > outcomes. Analysis of the current draft recommendations will continue so as
> > to create one unified set. The timeline will shift and we are looking into
> > options for another round of community input.
> >
> > I would like to make clear that the reason we were not able to achieve our
> > initial goal in Tunis was due to a lack of clarity and guidance on the core
> > team’s part. Still, the time was not wasted and important, honest
> > conversations were had. The working group members, as ever, devoted an
> > enormous amount of energy and care in the lead up to and during the event,
> > and demonstrated their deep understanding of the challenges and
> > opportunities in our movement. We are extremely grateful for all their
> > effort. In short, the harmonization sprint underlined the high level of
> > work and dedication every single working group member has put into getting
> > the movement strategy to its current point, and the passion to shape the
> > future of the diverse and inclusive movement we envision.
> >
> > We have valuable lessons to take from this event and incorporate into the
> > overall process and the next steps. We will share these with you all as
> > soon as possible. If you have questions in the meantime, please feel free
> > to reach out to me.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Nicole
> >
> > [1]
> >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Harmonization_Sprint
> > [2]
> >
> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_2030_Harmonization_Sprint
> > [3] https://twitter.com/search?q=%23hs2030
> > [4]
> >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations
> >
> >
> > --
> > Nicole Ebber
> > Adviser International Relations
> > Program Manager Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy
> > Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
> > Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0
> > https://wikimedia.de
> >
> > Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der Menschheit
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Outcomes of the Harmonization Sprint in Tunis

2019-10-02 Thread
That's helpful.

Volunteers are repeatedly shut down asking questions on this list and on
wiki project noticeboards, by being told they should ask questions on
these more
obscure and hard to find meta talk pages. So it's good to know that when we
are redirected this way, it's fair to say that those meta pages are not the
right places to expect answers either, just to have some third party
summarize and presumably sanitize comments as part of some non-public and
non-transparent process.

Thanks for the clarification.

Fae

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019, 10:48 Nicole Ebber,  wrote:

> Dear Paulo and Ziko,
>
> Thanks for your interest and your questions.
>
> Regarding the second iteration of the recommendations: We posted them
> for your information, to provide insights into how different strands
> of input have been progressed so far. We are not in a structured open
> consultation phase at the moment, but comments are of course always
> welcome on the talk pages, will be monitored, summarized and fed back
> to the Working Groups.
>
> Ziko, yes, as we wrote on the meta page, an extended report will be shared
> soon.
>
> Regards,
> Nicole
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 23:40, Ziko van Dijk  wrote:
> >
> > Dear Nicole,
> > Thank you for the explanation. Maybe some more context on Meta Wiki might
> > make sense?
> > I am looking forward to see the final results.
> > Kind regards
> > Ziko
> >
> > Am Di., 1. Okt. 2019 um 19:08 Uhr schrieb Paulo Santos Perneta <
> > paulospern...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > " A second iteration of draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta
> > > just before the sprint for
> > > the communities’ information." - It's quite unclear what are we
> supposed to
> > > do with this, since those recommendations most probably became
> outdated in
> > > the course of the Tunis meetings in the days following their
> publication.
> > > Are we supposed to do anything at all with them?
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Paulo
> > >
> > > Nicole Ebber  escreveu no dia segunda,
> > > 30/09/2019 à(s) 17:27:
> > >
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > > We recently held the harmonization sprint in Tunis [1], where
> > > > representatives from each working group met in person to continue
> > > bringing
> > > > nine separate sets of draft recommendations into one set. The event
> also
> > > > brought together staff members from the Wikimedia Foundation and
> > > Wikimedia
> > > > Deutschland, the WMF Chair of the Board of Trustees, and members of
> the
> > > > core team. A longer narrative report will be published in the coming
> > > weeks;
> > > > in the meantime, see a short day-by-day report on Meta, photos on
> commons
> > > > [2], and check out the hashtag #hs2030 on Twitter [3].
> > > >
> > > > In the lead up to the meeting, the working groups were busy refining
> > > their
> > > > draft recommendations based on feedback received at in person events
> from
> > > > Wikimedians across the movement as well as on wiki, via email, and on
> > > > social media since March of this year. They had also begun
> identifying
> > > > overlaps in each other’s recommendations and content. A second
> iteration
> > > of
> > > > draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta just before the
> sprint
> > > for
> > > > the communities’ information.
> > > >
> > > > At the sprint, we continued to group recommendations based on
> > > > commonalities. From there, we looked at what kinds of structures
> would
> > > need
> > > > to be in place to deliver the Wikimedia 2030 vision. A first, rough
> > > > grouping of recommendations came together at the sprint. But what
> became
> > > > clear during the event was that before it’s possible to create a
> coherent
> > > > and actionable set of recommendations, fundamental principles that
> > > underpin
> > > > the path towards 2030 need to be formalized.
> > > >
> > > > The core team is currently processing the discussion materials and
> > > > outcomes. Analysis of the current draft recommendations will
> continue so
> > > as
> > > > to create one unified set. The timeline will shift and we are looking
> > > into
> > > > options for another round of community input.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to make clear that the reason we were not able to
> achieve
> > > our
> > > > initial goal in Tunis was due to a lack of clarity and guidance on
> the
> > > core
> > > > team’s part. Still, the time was not wasted and important, honest
> > > > conversations were had. The working group members, as ever, devoted
> an
> > > > enormous amount of energy and care in the lead up to and during the
> > > event,
> > > > and demonstrated their deep understanding of the challenges and
> > > > opportunities in our movement. We are extremely grateful for all
> their
> > > > effort. In short, the harmonization sprint underlined the high level
> of
> > > > work and dedication every single working group member has put into
> > > getting
> > > > the movement strategy to its current point, and the passion to shape
> the
> > > > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Outcomes of the Harmonization Sprint in Tunis

2019-10-02 Thread Nicole Ebber
Dear Paulo and Ziko,

Thanks for your interest and your questions.

Regarding the second iteration of the recommendations: We posted them
for your information, to provide insights into how different strands
of input have been progressed so far. We are not in a structured open
consultation phase at the moment, but comments are of course always
welcome on the talk pages, will be monitored, summarized and fed back
to the Working Groups.

Ziko, yes, as we wrote on the meta page, an extended report will be shared soon.

Regards,
Nicole





On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 23:40, Ziko van Dijk  wrote:
>
> Dear Nicole,
> Thank you for the explanation. Maybe some more context on Meta Wiki might
> make sense?
> I am looking forward to see the final results.
> Kind regards
> Ziko
>
> Am Di., 1. Okt. 2019 um 19:08 Uhr schrieb Paulo Santos Perneta <
> paulospern...@gmail.com>:
>
> > " A second iteration of draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta
> > just before the sprint for
> > the communities’ information." - It's quite unclear what are we supposed to
> > do with this, since those recommendations most probably became outdated in
> > the course of the Tunis meetings in the days following their publication.
> > Are we supposed to do anything at all with them?
> >
> > Best,
> > Paulo
> >
> > Nicole Ebber  escreveu no dia segunda,
> > 30/09/2019 à(s) 17:27:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > We recently held the harmonization sprint in Tunis [1], where
> > > representatives from each working group met in person to continue
> > bringing
> > > nine separate sets of draft recommendations into one set. The event also
> > > brought together staff members from the Wikimedia Foundation and
> > Wikimedia
> > > Deutschland, the WMF Chair of the Board of Trustees, and members of the
> > > core team. A longer narrative report will be published in the coming
> > weeks;
> > > in the meantime, see a short day-by-day report on Meta, photos on commons
> > > [2], and check out the hashtag #hs2030 on Twitter [3].
> > >
> > > In the lead up to the meeting, the working groups were busy refining
> > their
> > > draft recommendations based on feedback received at in person events from
> > > Wikimedians across the movement as well as on wiki, via email, and on
> > > social media since March of this year. They had also begun identifying
> > > overlaps in each other’s recommendations and content. A second iteration
> > of
> > > draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta just before the sprint
> > for
> > > the communities’ information.
> > >
> > > At the sprint, we continued to group recommendations based on
> > > commonalities. From there, we looked at what kinds of structures would
> > need
> > > to be in place to deliver the Wikimedia 2030 vision. A first, rough
> > > grouping of recommendations came together at the sprint. But what became
> > > clear during the event was that before it’s possible to create a coherent
> > > and actionable set of recommendations, fundamental principles that
> > underpin
> > > the path towards 2030 need to be formalized.
> > >
> > > The core team is currently processing the discussion materials and
> > > outcomes. Analysis of the current draft recommendations will continue so
> > as
> > > to create one unified set. The timeline will shift and we are looking
> > into
> > > options for another round of community input.
> > >
> > > I would like to make clear that the reason we were not able to achieve
> > our
> > > initial goal in Tunis was due to a lack of clarity and guidance on the
> > core
> > > team’s part. Still, the time was not wasted and important, honest
> > > conversations were had. The working group members, as ever, devoted an
> > > enormous amount of energy and care in the lead up to and during the
> > event,
> > > and demonstrated their deep understanding of the challenges and
> > > opportunities in our movement. We are extremely grateful for all their
> > > effort. In short, the harmonization sprint underlined the high level of
> > > work and dedication every single working group member has put into
> > getting
> > > the movement strategy to its current point, and the passion to shape the
> > > future of the diverse and inclusive movement we envision.
> > >
> > > We have valuable lessons to take from this event and incorporate into the
> > > overall process and the next steps. We will share these with you all as
> > > soon as possible. If you have questions in the meantime, please feel free
> > > to reach out to me.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Nicole
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> > >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Harmonization_Sprint
> > > [2]
> > >
> > >
> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_2030_Harmonization_Sprint
> > > [3] https://twitter.com/search?q=%23hs2030
> > > [4]
> > >
> > >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Nicole Ebber
> > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Outcomes of the Harmonization Sprint in Tunis

2019-10-01 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Dear Nicole,
Thank you for the explanation. Maybe some more context on Meta Wiki might
make sense?
I am looking forward to see the final results.
Kind regards
Ziko

Am Di., 1. Okt. 2019 um 19:08 Uhr schrieb Paulo Santos Perneta <
paulospern...@gmail.com>:

> " A second iteration of draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta
> just before the sprint for
> the communities’ information." - It's quite unclear what are we supposed to
> do with this, since those recommendations most probably became outdated in
> the course of the Tunis meetings in the days following their publication.
> Are we supposed to do anything at all with them?
>
> Best,
> Paulo
>
> Nicole Ebber  escreveu no dia segunda,
> 30/09/2019 à(s) 17:27:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > We recently held the harmonization sprint in Tunis [1], where
> > representatives from each working group met in person to continue
> bringing
> > nine separate sets of draft recommendations into one set. The event also
> > brought together staff members from the Wikimedia Foundation and
> Wikimedia
> > Deutschland, the WMF Chair of the Board of Trustees, and members of the
> > core team. A longer narrative report will be published in the coming
> weeks;
> > in the meantime, see a short day-by-day report on Meta, photos on commons
> > [2], and check out the hashtag #hs2030 on Twitter [3].
> >
> > In the lead up to the meeting, the working groups were busy refining
> their
> > draft recommendations based on feedback received at in person events from
> > Wikimedians across the movement as well as on wiki, via email, and on
> > social media since March of this year. They had also begun identifying
> > overlaps in each other’s recommendations and content. A second iteration
> of
> > draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta just before the sprint
> for
> > the communities’ information.
> >
> > At the sprint, we continued to group recommendations based on
> > commonalities. From there, we looked at what kinds of structures would
> need
> > to be in place to deliver the Wikimedia 2030 vision. A first, rough
> > grouping of recommendations came together at the sprint. But what became
> > clear during the event was that before it’s possible to create a coherent
> > and actionable set of recommendations, fundamental principles that
> underpin
> > the path towards 2030 need to be formalized.
> >
> > The core team is currently processing the discussion materials and
> > outcomes. Analysis of the current draft recommendations will continue so
> as
> > to create one unified set. The timeline will shift and we are looking
> into
> > options for another round of community input.
> >
> > I would like to make clear that the reason we were not able to achieve
> our
> > initial goal in Tunis was due to a lack of clarity and guidance on the
> core
> > team’s part. Still, the time was not wasted and important, honest
> > conversations were had. The working group members, as ever, devoted an
> > enormous amount of energy and care in the lead up to and during the
> event,
> > and demonstrated their deep understanding of the challenges and
> > opportunities in our movement. We are extremely grateful for all their
> > effort. In short, the harmonization sprint underlined the high level of
> > work and dedication every single working group member has put into
> getting
> > the movement strategy to its current point, and the passion to shape the
> > future of the diverse and inclusive movement we envision.
> >
> > We have valuable lessons to take from this event and incorporate into the
> > overall process and the next steps. We will share these with you all as
> > soon as possible. If you have questions in the meantime, please feel free
> > to reach out to me.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Nicole
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Harmonization_Sprint
> > [2]
> >
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_2030_Harmonization_Sprint
> > [3] https://twitter.com/search?q=%23hs2030
> > [4]
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations
> >
> >
> > --
> > Nicole Ebber
> > Adviser International Relations
> > Program Manager Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy
> > Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
> > Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0
> > https://wikimedia.de
> >
> > Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der
> Menschheit
> > teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei!
> > https://spenden.wikimedia.de
> >
> > Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
> > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
> unter
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Outcomes of the Harmonization Sprint in Tunis

2019-10-01 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
" A second iteration of draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta
just before the sprint for
the communities’ information." - It's quite unclear what are we supposed to
do with this, since those recommendations most probably became outdated in
the course of the Tunis meetings in the days following their publication.
Are we supposed to do anything at all with them?

Best,
Paulo

Nicole Ebber  escreveu no dia segunda,
30/09/2019 à(s) 17:27:

> Hi everyone,
>
> We recently held the harmonization sprint in Tunis [1], where
> representatives from each working group met in person to continue bringing
> nine separate sets of draft recommendations into one set. The event also
> brought together staff members from the Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia
> Deutschland, the WMF Chair of the Board of Trustees, and members of the
> core team. A longer narrative report will be published in the coming weeks;
> in the meantime, see a short day-by-day report on Meta, photos on commons
> [2], and check out the hashtag #hs2030 on Twitter [3].
>
> In the lead up to the meeting, the working groups were busy refining their
> draft recommendations based on feedback received at in person events from
> Wikimedians across the movement as well as on wiki, via email, and on
> social media since March of this year. They had also begun identifying
> overlaps in each other’s recommendations and content. A second iteration of
> draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta just before the sprint for
> the communities’ information.
>
> At the sprint, we continued to group recommendations based on
> commonalities. From there, we looked at what kinds of structures would need
> to be in place to deliver the Wikimedia 2030 vision. A first, rough
> grouping of recommendations came together at the sprint. But what became
> clear during the event was that before it’s possible to create a coherent
> and actionable set of recommendations, fundamental principles that underpin
> the path towards 2030 need to be formalized.
>
> The core team is currently processing the discussion materials and
> outcomes. Analysis of the current draft recommendations will continue so as
> to create one unified set. The timeline will shift and we are looking into
> options for another round of community input.
>
> I would like to make clear that the reason we were not able to achieve our
> initial goal in Tunis was due to a lack of clarity and guidance on the core
> team’s part. Still, the time was not wasted and important, honest
> conversations were had. The working group members, as ever, devoted an
> enormous amount of energy and care in the lead up to and during the event,
> and demonstrated their deep understanding of the challenges and
> opportunities in our movement. We are extremely grateful for all their
> effort. In short, the harmonization sprint underlined the high level of
> work and dedication every single working group member has put into getting
> the movement strategy to its current point, and the passion to shape the
> future of the diverse and inclusive movement we envision.
>
> We have valuable lessons to take from this event and incorporate into the
> overall process and the next steps. We will share these with you all as
> soon as possible. If you have questions in the meantime, please feel free
> to reach out to me.
>
> Best regards,
> Nicole
>
> [1]
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Harmonization_Sprint
> [2]
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_2030_Harmonization_Sprint
> [3] https://twitter.com/search?q=%23hs2030
> [4]
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations
>
>
> --
> Nicole Ebber
> Adviser International Relations
> Program Manager Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy
> Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
> Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0
> https://wikimedia.de
>
> Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der Menschheit
> teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei!
> https://spenden.wikimedia.de
>
> Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter
> der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für
> Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Outcomes of the Harmonization Sprint in Tunis

2019-10-01 Thread John DeBruyn
Job well done, high five, John, John DeBruyn, cell phone 303-919-4840,
Http://debruyn.com, wiki booster

On Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 10:27 AM Nicole Ebber 
wrote:

Hi everyone,
>
> We recently held the harmonization sprint in Tunis [1], where
> representatives from each working group met in person to continue bringing
> nine separate sets of draft recommendations into one set. The event also
> brought together staff members from the Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia
> Deutschland, the WMF Chair of the Board of Trustees, and members of the
> core team. A longer narrative report will be published in the coming weeks;
> in the meantime, see a short day-by-day report on Meta, photos on commons
> [2], and check out the hashtag #hs2030 on Twitter [3].
>
> In the lead up to the meeting, the working groups were busy refining their
> draft recommendations based on feedback received at in person events from
> Wikimedians across the movement as well as on wiki, via email, and on
> social media since March of this year. They had also begun identifying
> overlaps in each other’s recommendations and content. A second iteration of
> draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta just before the sprint for
> the communities’ information.
>
> At the sprint, we continued to group recommendations based on
> commonalities. From there, we looked at what kinds of structures would need
> to be in place to deliver the Wikimedia 2030 vision. A first, rough
> grouping of recommendations came together at the sprint. But what became
> clear during the event was that before it’s possible to create a coherent
> and actionable set of recommendations, fundamental principles that underpin
> the path towards 2030 need to be formalized.
>
> The core team is currently processing the discussion materials and
> outcomes. Analysis of the current draft recommendations will continue so as
> to create one unified set. The timeline will shift and we are looking into
> options for another round of community input.
>
> I would like to make clear that the reason we were not able to achieve our
> initial goal in Tunis was due to a lack of clarity and guidance on the core
> team’s part. Still, the time was not wasted and important, honest
> conversations were had. The working group members, as ever, devoted an
> enormous amount of energy and care in the lead up to and during the event,
> and demonstrated their deep understanding of the challenges and
> opportunities in our movement. We are extremely grateful for all their
> effort. In short, the harmonization sprint underlined the high level of
> work and dedication every single working group member has put into getting
> the movement strategy to its current point, and the passion to shape the
> future of the diverse and inclusive movement we envision.
>
> We have valuable lessons to take from this event and incorporate into the
> overall process and the next steps. We will share these with you all as
> soon as possible. If you have questions in the meantime, please feel free
> to reach out to me.
>
> Best regards,
> Nicole
>
> [1]
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Harmonization_Sprint
> [2]
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_2030_Harmonization_Sprint
> [3] https://twitter.com/search?q=%23hs2030
> [4]
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations
>
>
> --
> Nicole Ebber
> Adviser International Relations
> Program Manager Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy
> Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
> Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0
> https://wikimedia.de
>
> Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der Menschheit
> teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei!
> https://spenden.wikimedia.de
>
> Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter
> der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für
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