[Wikimediaindia-l] Fw: [Wikipedia-l] [ResourceLoader] JavaScript may break on your wiki: Fix it before that happens

2011-02-12 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
FYI. We noticed some issues (like some custom tools not working) related to 
this 
in Tamil Wikipedia. Not sure whether all issues are resolved.
Please check if other wikis are affected by this.

- Sundar
 That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for 
the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted.
- George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture



- Forwarded Message 
 From: Guillaume Paumier guillom@gmail.com
 To: Wikipedia mailing list wikipedi...@lists.wikimedia.org; English 
 Wikipedia 
wikie...@lists.wikimedia.org; Wikimedia Commons Discussion List 
common...@lists.wikimedia.org; Wikisource mailing list 
wikisourc...@lists.wikimedia.org; Wikinews mailing list 
wikinew...@lists.wikimedia.org; Wiktionary mailing list 
wiktionar...@lists.wikimedia.org; Mailing list for Wikiversity 
wikiversit...@lists.wikimedia.org; Mailing list for the Wikiquote projects 
wikiquot...@lists.wikimedia.org; Wikibooks mailing list 
textboo...@lists.wikimedia.org
 Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 3:23:58 PM
 Subject: [Wikipedia-l] [ResourceLoader] JavaScript may break on your wiki: 
 Fix 
it before that happens
 
 Greetings,
 
 As you may know, the Wikimedia teach team has started to  upgrade
 MediaWiki on some wikis. MediaWiki is the software that runs  all
 Wikimedia wikis.
 
 The most visible change for Wikimedia users will  be the deployment of
 ResourceLoader [1].
 
 ResourceLoader optimizes the  use of JavaScript in MediaWiki, speeding up
 its delivery by compressing it  sometimes, and cutting down on the amount
 of unused JavaScript that gets  delivered to the browser in the first
 place.
 
 The installation of  ResourceLoader may cause compatibility issues with
 existing JavaScript  code.
 
 Trevor Parscal and Roan Kattouw, the main developers of  ResourceLoader,
 will be available on IRC [2] on Monday, February 14th, at  18:00 (UTC)
 [3], to answer questions and help fix issues related to  ResourceLoader.
 
 *If you maintain JavaScript code on your home wiki,  please attend.*
 Don't wait until your wiki's JavaScript is all  broken.
 
 Please spread this information as widely as possible; it's  critical to
 reach as many local JavaScript maintainers as  possible.
 
 Logs of the session will be published publicly.
 
 [1]  http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader
 [2]  http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours
 [3] All timezones:  http://ur1.ca/3819u
 
 --
 Guillaume Paumier
 Product manager -  Wikimedia Foundation
 Support free knowledge:  http://donate.wikimedia.org
 
 ___
 Wikipedia-l  mailing list
 wikipedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l
 

___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-chn] Thanks for the wikipedia session at MIT

2011-02-12 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Thanks Shrinivasan. I've copied the Wikimedia India mailing list for wider 
reach.
I hope the top priority requirements for Wiki projects related to India will be 
added to http://wiki.ilugc.in/index.php?title=Projects_List

- Sundar
 That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for 
the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted.
- George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture



- Original Message 
 From: Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com
 To: wikimedia-in-...@lists.wikimedia.org
 Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 10:57:57 PM
 Subject: [Wikimedia-in-chn] Thanks for the wikipedia session at MIT
 
 Friends.
 
 Last sunday, I attended the wikipedia session at MIT.
 Thanks  for the session.
 
 I see a lot of interest and enthusiasm in contributing  to the wikipedia.
 
 I am from Indian Linux Users Group, Chennai [  http://ilugc.in ]
 
 We are collecting the list of projects to do for the  Free Open Source 
Software.
 Here is the  list.
 http://wiki.ilugc.in/index.php?title=Projects_List
 
 If you want  any projects to be done, please add the details here.
 
 We are spreading  this link to many colleges so that any students can
 pick any project and  finish it.
 
 Please add you  in the mentor page  too.
 http://wiki.ilugc.in/index.php?title=Projects_Mentors
 
 Thanks a  lot.
 
 -- 
 Regards,
 T.Shrinivasan
 
 
 My Life with GNU/Linux :  http://goinggnu.wordpress.com
 Free/Open Source Jobs :  http://fossjobs.in
 
 ___
 Wikimedia-in-chn  mailing list
 wikimedia-in-...@lists.wikimedia.org
 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-chn
 

___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Moderation policy on WikimediaIndia-l

2011-02-12 Thread praveenp
My last message has only 112 kb even with that embedded image. A 112 kb 
message is not bulky in these days. Some people told me that mail man 
will not block any message if there is nothing to load from outside. I 
remember once I used donate to wikipedia image in all my message, but 
never get any problem in any list.  If thats also true for this list, 
please increase maximum message size for the list (500 kb or atleast 300 
kb?).


I saw Jyothis' messge to other thread was also under moderation for 
about 14 hrs (probably because he quoted me :D).


On Saturday 12 February 2011 02:44 PM, Anirudh Bhati wrote:

Hi Achal,

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com 
mailto:aprabh...@gmail.com wrote:



As moderators of WikimediaIndia-l, could you describe the policy you
normally adopt towards moderation?


Thank you for the email.  You can review the Wikimedia mailing lists 
administration page for information about the role of list admins and 
mods.  Here is a link which you can review: 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Administration



Do you only block obvious spam or other messages, and if so on
what basis?


The spam filter on default catches spam and other bulky messages 
(including ones that have image(s) embedded in them.)  I think 
Delphine's email contains a nice explanation.


List mods can moderate trolls and other problem users 
who willfully cause or contribute to disruption on the mailing list.



I am naturally curious since a message from Praveen that you only just
released seems to have been sent in 3 days ago. 



Furthermore, I think we'd benefit from understanding how people may
apply to become administrators on this list.


I understand the source of curiosity and would like to clarify that 
Praveen's email was caught in the filter because it had an image 
embedded in it.



In light of Anirudh's recent appointment to administrator of this
list,
is there an open process by which other members might apply?
(Foundation-l seems to have three administrators, though I would
imagine
that there is nothing stopping WikimediaIndia-l from having more than
three).


There is no formal process for appointment of list administrators. 
 The usual practice on Wikimedia lists is for the founder of a mailing 
list to appoint admins and mods whom s/he can trust with keeping the 
lists running as smoothly as possible.


At this point of time, we don't feel the need for having more list 
administrators, however list subscribers who are interested in keeping 
a check on the spam filter as moderators can write an email to either 
list admins.


Please note that I don't ask with persecutory intent, but merely to
clear gaps in my own understanding, which might be a problem that
other
people on this list face as well. Since WikimediaIndia-l is such an
important place for all kinds of conversations that cut across the
movement in India, it's in all our interests to know exactly how it is
managed.


For more information, please review the following pages:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Overview


Best regards,
Achal


Best,
Anirudh Bhati


___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
mailto:Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l



___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


[Wikimediaindia-l] unified log-in not happening in hindi wikipedia for some reason

2011-02-12 Thread shirish शिरीष
Hi all,
  I know that sometime back unified login happened.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Unified_login
This is what I was doing :-

a. Was in EN:WP and logged in - looked at the entries.

b. Went to hindi wikipedia and tried to edit an article. I was not logged in.

c. Thought perhaps I'm not chosen Unified login so went to
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MergeAccount, says you are
unified.

d. Did a shift-F5 and refreshed the page without the cache, for some
reason the login didn't happen.

Any pointers as to what could be the issue ? This is on Mozilla
Firefox 3.6.3 on an Ubuntu 10.04 box although do not think its
something to do with either the browser or the distribution.
-- 
          Regards,
          Shirish Agarwal  शिरीष अग्रवाल
  My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/
http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com
065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3  8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17

___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Moderation policy on WikimediaIndia-l

2011-02-12 Thread Sudhir Ponappa
Hello everybody. I am a Wikipedian who is very interested in translation. I am 
helping with English to Kannada, but I am also learning chapter language. What 
is this? For eg.

*Anirudh:* At this point of time, we don't feel the need for having more list 
administrators, however list subscribers who are interested in keeping a check 
on the spam filter as moderators can write an email to either list admins.

*Translation:* Can all the ordinary members of this list please keep out of my 
business? I would prefer to continue censoring this list with my best friend 
HPN. After all, I am the EC of the India chapter and I have an unlimited 
Wikimedia Foundation sponsored travel budget which I regularly use to go to 
Frankfurt, Pune, Delhi, Bangalore, Berlin, etc. etc. and I would really like to 
get back to my travel now and stop worrying about stupid issues but if any of 
you slaves feels like doing my dirty work while I travel then of course I 
welcome that with open arms.





___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


[Wikimediaindia-l] Please be CIVIL-- Ok Thanks Bye

2011-02-12 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
I think the only option for me next is to unsubscribe due to recent decrease
in Signal to Noise ratio.Please be CIVIL. No, am not asking you to assume
good faith(you are free to raise questions, But just asking you to be
CIVIL).I expect some support from senior members in taking a pledging to be
CIVIL. Let me start, I will be CIVIL.  #KThxBai

Regards
Srikanth.L
___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] unified log-in not happening in hindi wikipedia for some reason

2011-02-12 Thread Harish
AFAIK, Unified login just gives the option of logging in with the same
username and password, without creating a new one for each wiki project. You
still need to login manually with that unified user name and password
combination.

2011/2/12 shirish शिरीष shirisha...@gmail.com

 Hi all,
  I know that sometime back unified login happened.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Unified_login
 This is what I was doing :-

 a. Was in EN:WP and logged in - looked at the entries.

 b. Went to hindi wikipedia and tried to edit an article. I was not logged
 in.

 c. Thought perhaps I'm not chosen Unified login so went to
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MergeAccount, says you are
 unified.

 d. Did a shift-F5 and refreshed the page without the cache, for some
 reason the login didn't happen.

 Any pointers as to what could be the issue ? This is on Mozilla
 Firefox 3.6.3 on an Ubuntu 10.04 box although do not think its
 something to do with either the browser or the distribution.
 --
   Regards,
   Shirish Agarwal  शिरीष अग्रवाल
   My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0
 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/
 http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com
 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3  8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17

 ___
 Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
 Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l




-- 
Harish
9740069624
___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


[Wikimediaindia-l] wikimedia india mailing list, what is it about ?

2011-02-12 Thread shirish शिरीष
Hi all,
  Due to the recent nature of things and events a very basic question
occured to me ? What is the purpose of this mailing list?

A very broad definition or understanding which was there of the list
is to co-ordinate indian activities in and around wikipedia and
wikimedia.

I went to the mailman interface to see if I could garner some more
info. about the purpose/aims of the list but could not.

https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

If I look at the wikimedia india homepage I found info. about the
mailing list in a stub way :-

Wikimedia India Mailing List :- Important for all wikipedians to
signup and stay connected.

As far as the list is concerned, who is its target audience ?

a. Programmers.
b. Editors, baby editors and that ilk
c. Users of Wikipedia.
d. Translators
e. Content creators, mashup creators ~ creative visionaries
f. All of the above.
g. Some of the above - describe who

Let me talk from where I'm coming from , I come from b. and c. I am no
high-level editor, I do some things for fun which leads to something
learning and vice-versa.

From both a community member perspective, a user perspective and a
potential tester (in the near future) I see the list as a :-

a. help list
b. sounding board for new ideas.
c. Making exciting events happen in and around the various wikipedia
and wikimedia products

3-4 months ago  before when I didn't even know that there was an
Indian mailing list all my queries esp. while editing were on the
#wikipedia IRC channel on freenode.

Now while sometimes my issues used to get solved, sometimes not and I
was not even that there was an Indian community and an Indian mailing
list. The sad part then was any of the issues could be drowned out in
the noise which has a possibility of it being documented on the
mailing list.

From an Indian's perspective the Village Pump is not at all adequate
enwp.org/wp:vp

bias
if you look at that page itself, it has Americana written all over it,
its all points and stuff and something about why and what it for and
all those answers are atleast one link down or not more /bias

If it was perhaps an Indian vp it would have somewhat of a more gentle
introduction to things and perhaps then roll off into other things.

Lastly, I am not looking for one person to respond on this but looking
at the whole community (old and new) to participate and perhaps get
some sort of feedback on this.

Looking forward to the discucssion. on this topic.
-- 
          Regards,
          Shirish Agarwal  शिरीष अग्रवाल
  My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/
http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com
065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3  8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17

___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] unified log-in not happening in hindi wikipedia for some reason

2011-02-12 Thread Theo10011
Unified Login or SUL (Single User Login) is a mechanism which allows users
to use a single global login on most of the Wikimedia Foundation's projects.
It allows to maintain a consistent identity across all linked projects, and
no you necessarily don't have to login manually to each Wiki.

You first need to Merge your account by visiting  [[Special:MergeAccount]]
to perform Login Unification. if your particular wiki is not allowing access
through SUL and you have to login Manually each time, for example Strategy
Wiki does that from time to time, you might need to file a bug. Check with
other users on your wiki if this is a consistent issue, and post on VP.

For more information, read:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Unified_login


Salmaan
User:Theo10011


On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Harish mghar...@gmail.com wrote:

 AFAIK, Unified login just gives the option of logging in with the same
 username and password, without creating a new one for each wiki project. You
 still need to login manually with that unified user name and password
 combination.

 2011/2/12 shirish शिरीष shirisha...@gmail.com

 Hi all,
  I know that sometime back unified login happened.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Unified_login
 This is what I was doing :-

 a. Was in EN:WP and logged in - looked at the entries.

 b. Went to hindi wikipedia and tried to edit an article. I was not logged
 in.

 c. Thought perhaps I'm not chosen Unified login so went to
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MergeAccount, says you are
 unified.

 d. Did a shift-F5 and refreshed the page without the cache, for some
 reason the login didn't happen.

 Any pointers as to what could be the issue ? This is on Mozilla
 Firefox 3.6.3 on an Ubuntu 10.04 box although do not think its
 something to do with either the browser or the distribution.
 --
   Regards,
   Shirish Agarwal  शिरीष अग्रवाल
   My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0
 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/
 http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com
 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3  8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17

 ___
 Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
 Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l




 --
 Harish
 9740069624

 ___
 Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
 Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Moderation policy on WikimediaIndia-l

2011-02-12 Thread Theo10011
I have no idea what's been happening lately on the mailing list.

Please keep it civil, this is getting rude and inappropriate for a national
list. It would be archived and viewed by many others, please do bear that in
mind.


User:Theo10011


On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:37 AM, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org wrote:

 On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Sudhir Ponappa
 ponappasud...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Hello everybody. I am a Wikipedian who is very interested in translation.
  I am helping with English to Kannada, but I am also learning chapter
  language. What is this? For eg.

 Thank you for helping the thread by providing an example of a message
 that would require moderation!  Rude personal attacks such as these
 are the perfect examples of what should be moderated on a mailing
 list.

 --
 Casey Brown
 Cbrown1023

 ___
 Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
 Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] wikimedia india mailing list, what is it about ?

2011-02-12 Thread Theo10011
This has been discussed previously to some extent, the list is for any and
all Wikimedia related activities in India. The list is intended to be as
inclusive as possible.

This is a national mailing list for a country of a billion people, it really
shouldn't need an explanation in my opinion.


User:Theo10011


2011/2/13 shirish शिरीष shirisha...@gmail.com

 Hi all,
  Due to the recent nature of things and events a very basic question
 occured to me ? What is the purpose of this mailing list?

 A very broad definition or understanding which was there of the list
 is to co-ordinate indian activities in and around wikipedia and
 wikimedia.

 I went to the mailman interface to see if I could garner some more
 info. about the purpose/aims of the list but could not.

 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

 If I look at the wikimedia india homepage I found info. about the
 mailing list in a stub way :-

 Wikimedia India Mailing List :- Important for all wikipedians to
 signup and stay connected.

 As far as the list is concerned, who is its target audience ?

 a. Programmers.
 b. Editors, baby editors and that ilk
 c. Users of Wikipedia.
 d. Translators
 e. Content creators, mashup creators ~ creative visionaries
 f. All of the above.
 g. Some of the above - describe who

 Let me talk from where I'm coming from , I come from b. and c. I am no
 high-level editor, I do some things for fun which leads to something
 learning and vice-versa.

 From both a community member perspective, a user perspective and a
 potential tester (in the near future) I see the list as a :-

 a. help list
 b. sounding board for new ideas.
 c. Making exciting events happen in and around the various wikipedia
 and wikimedia products

 3-4 months ago  before when I didn't even know that there was an
 Indian mailing list all my queries esp. while editing were on the
 #wikipedia IRC channel on freenode.

 Now while sometimes my issues used to get solved, sometimes not and I
 was not even that there was an Indian community and an Indian mailing
 list. The sad part then was any of the issues could be drowned out in
 the noise which has a possibility of it being documented on the
 mailing list.

 From an Indian's perspective the Village Pump is not at all adequate
 enwp.org/wp:vp

 bias
 if you look at that page itself, it has Americana written all over it,
 its all points and stuff and something about why and what it for and
 all those answers are atleast one link down or not more /bias

 If it was perhaps an Indian vp it would have somewhat of a more gentle
 introduction to things and perhaps then roll off into other things.

 Lastly, I am not looking for one person to respond on this but looking
 at the whole community (old and new) to participate and perhaps get
 some sort of feedback on this.

 Looking forward to the discucssion. on this topic.
 --
   Regards,
   Shirish Agarwal  शिरीष अग्रवाल
   My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0
 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/
 http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com
 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3  8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17

 ___
 Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
 Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


[Wikimediaindia-l] [Press] : The Hindustan Times : Wiki to tie up with city galleries, museums

2011-02-12 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
*The Hindustan Times : Wiki to tie up with city galleries, museums*
http://www.hindustantimes.com/Wiki-to-tie-up-with-city-galleries-museums/Article1-661728.aspx


*A 14th-century manuscript of Dante’s Divine Comedy is the Asiatic Society
of Mumbai’s most treasured possession. And, if all goes well, you may soon
be able to read all about it and how it ended up in the city, on
wikipedia.com. The Wikimedia Foundation, the non-profit organisation behind
*
*
*
* *
*Wikipedia, is in the process of tying up with galleries, libraries,
archives and museums for what is unofficially called the GLAM project, a
global cultural initiative that seeks to make exclusive material available
to the world via the online encyclopaedia.*
*Liam Wyatt, now a cultural partnerships fellow with Wikimedia Foundation,
had been working independently with several museums around the world towards
this end. Last month, he was roped in by the foundation for a one-year
fellowship.*
*
*
*India was Wyatt’s first destination as part of GLAM and he officially
launched the project in Mumbai on Saturday.*
*
*
*“The amount of content in Indian cultural institutions is massive,” said
Wyatt. “That, combined with the potential for*
*
*
*Internet penetration in India and the vibrant Wikipedia community here,
make this a great destination for GLAM.”*
*
*
*The project will also urge experts and curators to upload information about
topics of their choice. “Enough information about the cultural heritage of
India is still not available on the internet. For a young girl in a village
in Maharashtra, a textbook should not be her only resource,” said Wyatt. We
need experts who have this information to come on board and help.”*
*
*
*In March, Wyatt plans to travel to Switzerland, France and Germany to
promote GLAM.*



Regards
Tinu Cherian
http://wikimedia.in/wiki/In_the_news#February_2011
___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Moderation policy on WikimediaIndia-l

2011-02-12 Thread shirish शिरीष
spelling mistake :-

 There were 2-3 people who were in the same boat. So one was on the
 road 20 days in a month, some people like traveling and others do not.

-- 
          Regards,
          Shirish Agarwal  शिरीष अग्रवाल
  My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/
http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com
065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3  8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17

___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


[Wikimediaindia-l] WikiXDC Event Video

2011-02-12 Thread Jyothis E
All,

As you know, we celebrated the WikiXDC on Jan 22nd, 2011 at the National
Archives and Records Administration in Washington DC, United States. We
would like to present a 3 hour event
videohttp://www.mlwiki.in/videos/wikixdc.html for
everyone to enjoy (and download to keep if you like) . Some sessions could
not be covered/covered at length due to technical difficulties. The event
video was not a part of the original plan, but we are glad that we could at
least this much.

We would like to thank everyone who helped us to make the event a success.


Thanks.

Regards,
Jyothis.

http://www.Jyothis.net

My Malayalam Wikipedia page http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis
Metawiki page http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis
I am the first customer of http://www.netdotnet.com
My toolserver tools http://toolserver.org/~jyothis

woods are lovely dark and deep,
but i have promises to keep and
miles to go before i sleep and
*lines to go before I press sleep*

completion date = (start date + ((estimated effort x 3.1415926) / resources)
+ ((total coffee breaks x 0.25) / 24)) + Effort in meetings
___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


[Wikimediaindia-l] Bangalore meetup #27 today - Invited speaker - Lodewijk Gelauff

2011-02-12 Thread Arun Ramarathnam
Dear all:

This is a gentle reminder to all wikimedians to attend the Bangalore monthly
meetup #27. The highlight of today's session is a invited talk by Lodewijk
Gelauff from Wikimedia Nederlands.

The talk will be sharing experiences from the  recent project *Wiki loves
Monuments.* The Project intended to photograph as many of the 50,000
national monuments (“rijksmonument“) throughout the Netherlands. These
included archeological sites in Drenthe, the canal houses in Amsterdam, and
the Royal Palace in The Hague.

The project received wide coverage on Wikimedia's blog as well as signpost.
The scale of the project and the application of best practices from earlier
events were significant. http://wikilovesmonuments.nl/

Today's talk is part of a series of invited speakers to share experiences
and best practices at Bangalore meetups/events. Earlier speakers have been Liam
Wyatt (Australia), Asaf Bartov (Israel), Josh Lim (Philipines) and Belayet
Hossain (Bangaldesh).

Meetup starts at 3 PM IST. lodewijk's talk is at 4:30 PM IST. Skype details
on the website.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Bangalore/Bangalore27

regards
Arun

*AGENDA*

   - *Talks*
  - Invited Video Talk via Skype @ 4:30 PM IST
 - *Wiki loves monuments http://wikilovesmonuments.nl/*
 - Talk by Lodewijk
Gelauffhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Effeietsanders
  from Wikimedia
Nederlandshttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Nederland.
 He is Vice chair and International contact for Wikimedia
Nederlands. He is
 also a member of Wikimedia's chapter's
committeehttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_committee
 .
  - *Discussions*
  - Wiki Ten Bangalore Celebrationhttp://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangalore
 - Thank you note to volunteers who participated.
 - Experiences from the community initiative.
 - Retrospective: what was done well and what needs improvement.
  - India GLAM events http://wikimedia.in/wiki/Projects:GLAM_2011 and
  Liam Wyatt's visit to India — Bangalore specific plans.
 - Liam Wyatt in Bangalore :18-Feb (Fri) to 19-Feb (Sat).
 - Tomasz Finc  Arthur Richards in Bangalore : 2/16 - 2/19. 2/16 or
 2/17 would be best as Arthur leaving on 2/18.
  - *Updates*
  - Wikimedia India chapter http://wikimedia.in/wiki/Main_Page
  - Update on participation in World Sanskrit Book fair
eventhttp://samskritbookfair.org/
   - Arunram http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Arunram, Vishal
  otherspdate on participation in Carte Blanche eventhttp://cb.csmit.org/
   - Sundar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sundar


   -
  - Bangalore loves Wikipedia initiative. Intro and call for
  participation.-Suma Nadighttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sumanadig
  - Experience at Kannada Saahithya Sammelan - Suma
Nadighttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sumanadig
___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Moderation policy on WikimediaIndia-l

2011-02-12 Thread Achal Prabhala
Couldn't agree more. I think that there is/ has been a lot of needless 
noise. It's not productive to cast insinuations against the chapter or 
foundation (or community for that matter) as a whole.

I do think, however, that communication from the chapter regarding the 
last set of meetings (and changes then on) have not been communicated 
very well. If, for instance, some of the basic questions were to be 
addressed, I suspect that there would be much less basis for this kind 
of distracting and unhelpful noise. As far as I am concerned, I have  
fairly simple question: I still don't know why one set of the India 
chapter leadership (scroll down: 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India/MoA-ChapComVer) was 
suddenly replaced by another (as detailed 
here:http://wikimedia.in/wiki/Announcements/Communication_from_the_Executive_Committee_regarding_first_meeting_on_January_22,_2011).
 
Not being on the EC, I am aware that there might well have been good 
reasons to reshuffle of the chapter leadership team; I would merely like 
to know what these reasons were. And also how you decided to change the 
structure, who stood for elections to various posts, etc. - as I would 
expect from any Wikimedia community body.

Perhaps this is something that the chapter can consider in this 
instance, and in the future.

As for Praveen's email, thanks for the explanations, Delphine, Anirudh, 
others.

However, Anirudh, while the point about moderation/spam filters makes 
sense, mailman does generate emails (on a daily/per instance basis) to 
the admins of a list to check/approve messages caught in the filter. So 
I would imagine that for a message to stay unanswered/unresolved for 
three days indicates that the burden of administration on 
WikimediaIndia-l deserves to be shared by more than two people from the 
Wikimedia India chapter.

Specifically, and to follow up on the intent expressed in previous 
messages (from Jyothis, Salman, Delphine and others), how can we help to 
immediately create a process whereby two non-chapter community members 
from India might be added as Admins to WikimediaIndia-l? Hari and 
Anirudh, I would imagine that the instant you can facilitate this 
process, there will be sufficient uptake from the community to fill 
these two slots - many thanks in advance for considering this request 
from us seriously.

Good wishes,
Achal



On Sunday 13 February 2011 02:41 AM, Theo10011 wrote:
 I have no idea what's been happening lately on the mailing list.

 Please keep it civil, this is getting rude and inappropriate for a 
 national list. It would be archived and viewed by many others, please 
 do bear that in mind.


 User:Theo10011


 On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:37 AM, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org 
 mailto:li...@caseybrown.org wrote:

 On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Sudhir Ponappa
 ponappasud...@yahoo.com mailto:ponappasud...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Hello everybody. I am a Wikipedian who is very interested in
 translation.
  I am helping with English to Kannada, but I am also learning chapter
  language. What is this? For eg.

 Thank you for helping the thread by providing an example of a message
 that would require moderation!  Rude personal attacks such as these
 are the perfect examples of what should be moderated on a mailing
 list.

 --
 Casey Brown
 Cbrown1023

 ___
 Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
 Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 mailto:Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l



 ___
 Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
 Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l