Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Coimbatore Meetup 2
Thank you for your support Subha. The page is hosted on meta for the following reasons: 1. Neutral. Meta is more neutral as we have a lot of Tamil editors, photographers, bird watchers etc. from the Commons. 2. Common Login. I was suggested to keep the page on wiki.wikimedia.in but we have a lot of newcomers, and Wikimedia.in requires a separate account. On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Wow, this is amazing, great going Srikanth. I am still confused why you are creating page in meta instead of en wp, but this effort is never dying! Hope Bala joins you there to help you with this. All the best and please let me know if I can support you in any way.. Subha On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, This is to inform you all that the Second Coimbatore Meetup will take place on Sunday, 12th of February at 11am at the KGISL Institute of Technology [KITE], Saravanampatti, Coimbatore.. There are a few formalities before entering. Come to the gate of KGISL, fill out an Entry Pass, ask for Mr. Devraj. Like last time, I'll try and arrange with Security to direct people asking for Wikipedia to the KITE block. 11am. The venue is on the ground floor of the KGISL Institute of Technology which in turn is on Thudiyalur Road. Accessible by buses from Gandhipuram/Ukkadam. From G'puram, you have 111/111A that comes to the gate while any other bus going to Sathyamangalam, or Saravanampatti will drop you 500m away from there. I hope someone will create a Facebook page for it. Please use this image for it: http://www.flickr.com/photos/21232862@N00/6441297319/ The Twitter hashtag is #WPMCB2 Hope to see you here. Please sign up here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore/Coimbatore2 -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coimbatore_bypass Coimbatore bypass. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mysore_Ring_Road Mysore Ring Road. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Backup for Wikipedians
Volunteers also need to be involved in an interacted session on what is/was/could be/will be illegal/problematic/controversial. On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: hi, Also another thing to consider that all Wikimedians in India are not Chapter members. Can anything initiated by the chapter be used to provide 'services' to non-members? Also, no matter how much a person or organisation prepares itself, threats to Wikimedians come in various ways. I've heard of everything from threats to life to threats on Wikipedia/mailing lists. I think, we need resources that can be used pan-India and the first line of defense is at best each Wikipedian educating themselves on the practical nuances and also openly sharing such experiences on the list so that many can benefit from the same. The Foundation/Chapter can only build minimal defenses on top of this, IMO. What these minimal defenses are must be discussed by the Chapter and the Foundation individually and together. Pradeep Handheld PS: Back from a wiki vaccation On 06/02/2012, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with you completely. While I've never been dragged to a Police station, the Coimbatore Police made me delete ALL my photos on the camera, and the Bangalore Police took away my memory card. Do we need to send across a letter or something across to the Police? On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 2:40 AM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, I thought Id bring up something thats been at the back of my mind for the last few days. With offline activities increasing in the last couple of months, it is a good sign for the project overall in India. However, we sometimes tend to unintentionally ruffle a few feathers (or people wanting to take advantage of the situation pretend that we have). This got me thinking of what sort of backup we Wikipedians can expect if they get into trouble whiles taking part in volunteer activities? I dont mean getting caught doing something illegal, I mean any trouble whiles taking part in or organising routine activities. I dont mean to scare people, this is something that is the result of recent happenings. In Mumbai, Wikipedians have had to visit the Police Station twice in the last 3 months. First time we had a battery of people including Chapter Secretary Naveen Francis, WMF Deputy Director Erik Moeller (who literally got off a flight and walked into the cop station), our Legal brain Gautam John, WMF Trustee Bishakha Dutta and WMF Advisor Achal Prabhala among others go down to the police station as a political party threatened to stage a protest at our event in November 2011. Last month, we had another visit to the police station during the photowalk because a corporate house was paranoid when we took photographs of their headquarters. Hisham, Gautam and Achal were all unavailable, thankfully Bishakha was and she was able to get a legal opinion from some lawyer friends that what we were doing was totally legal as it was not a prohibited area. We cannot expect to fall back on such people all the time, after all they are here as volunteers as well (well, except for Erik and Hisham). Reiterating, that though we were on the right side of the law, we were dragged to the police. I am worried what the case would be if a formal complaint or a case is filed against a Wikipedian (though Im hoping this will never happen) to trouble or scare him, what assurance does he have from the organisation? As most Wikipedians are doing volunteer-work in their spare time, I think its highly important that there is some sort of assurance that they will not be left to fend for themselves if something unforeseen leaves them personally in a spot of bother. Could someone from India Programs or WM-IN please advice the community of what sort of back-up and legal support/insurance the community can expect in the event of such eventualities? Kind Regards, ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG -- Pradeep Mohandas How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Letters of authority or press cards (was: Backup for Wikipedians)
I agree with fae about the entire issue. Last week, there was an Academy in Coimbatore at the Amrita University where I was denied entry as my ID card didn't state Wikipedia. For Commons, this may not be of much use. Most Police men chase us away for pulling out a Camera in Public. However, I do not see this reaching non members of the chapter, especially the under age ones like Vibhijain, or others. Re, On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.comwrote: Further to Theo's suggestion (inline below) On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Great suggestion Fae. As Srikanth correctly pointed it out, such an ID would be under the content scope, which neither the chapter or the WMF India operations have any jurisdiction over. I remember a couple of years ago, Wikinews tried this for their active editors, offering to print them 'official reporter' IDs. It was an idea at the time, and I'm not sure if they actually implemented it or not. For photographers, this would be the commons community. This shouldn't be too hard, I suggest someone mentioning the political situation and suggesting this for commons photographers in the VP. The great thing is since, it would be the community who would award it, there is little or no direct liability to an official body. There should however be a contribution record or an endorsement from someone to print these out. One thing the chapter can do however, is offer a special member/photographers ID to the existing members. This could be at a surcharge so they don't undertake any expense- they can print out plastic IDs with photos, and membership detail of the existing members. This ID might be able to suffice for the purpose. I don't think that the card should necessarily be printed at a centralised location. In fact, I don't even think this is desirable (from security and logistics viewpoints). It should be fairly simple to 'approve' a request for accreditation (framework discussed already), then lead to a web-based one-time card generator that the user can print and laminate herself. In case of problems printing, the user should have a fallback option to report the failure, in order to enable a second attempt for the card to be printed. Regards Theo On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 8:15 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: The chapter can officially decide it only after a discussion within Board , SIG leadership and the members. But on a personal level, I agree with Anirudh's view on this. Since it brings strong accountability for the chapter on the use of the ID by the recipients , this has to be done with caution and utmost care. May be we can set up an empowered committee to review such requests and grant them. ( just a suggestion) Nevertheless, IMHO, such id cards should be issued to only trusted Wikimedians with a substantial amount of history with our projects and mission. Regards Tinu Cherian On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: We do need a Chapter EC Board member to respond to this. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: The question whether the Chapter will help someone if they get into some sort of trouble with the authorities is an important one and should be addressed. Once a letter of authority is issued to a volunteer, the chapter's reputation and credibility is on the line. Therefore, the chapter must endeavor to only approve those members who have a substantial amount of history with our projects and their mission. In such a scenario, I would expect the chapter to extend help to those it endorses. anirudh (personal opinion) On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 18:24, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: Will the chapter or India Programs provide assistance? IIRC both of them lie outside the content boundary and wouldn't be helping. I dont recollect reading anything like protecting interests of wikipedians on the chapter's mission / vision. Form a political party (since asking the current ones might not help!) and fight for it, else sit at home and edit non controversial stuff like Brinjal :P Supporting Wikimedia volunteers in their mission to expand the scope and variety of content on Wikimedia projects is an important part of our stated goals. I think this is a very good idea, and a little help to the volunteers from the chapter would go a long way in giving their work some credibility in the eyes of authorities, private and public both. anirudh (personal opnion) ___
[Wikimediaindia-l] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
Deal all, As a part of helping the community to reach out to more people apart from the presentations, handouts, FAQs and mailing list support we also have need for more visuals. Audio/Video clips containing Indian Wikipedians sharing their message I EDIT WIKIPEDIA or I EDIT AN INDIAN LANGUAGE WIKIPEDIA or WIKIPEDIA IS HELPING ME DOCUMENTING MY HERITAGE will create impact among people and motivate them to contribute to Wikipedia. Many people use Wikipedia in a daily basis without being aware of they can also [Edit] it, social media, Youtube, mails containing link to such a video can be used to reach this message to them. Moreover, such videos which are already there in Outreach (outreach.wikimedia.org) Bookshelf might make some people feel it's project being managed by some foreigners. Seeing some real Indians editing Wikipedia with the Main page of an Indian language background will definitely make this message clearer. If there is a fairly good no of community members located in anywhere in India (e.g Pune, Bangalore and Mumbai community) we can ask the community members say it altogether aloud apart from one/two community members speaking in their own language. I will be posting the details in the community village pumps, you are allowed to send as many people's footage as you can provided the video and audio quality are reasonable good. We will be collecting footage from all the communities and do a post production. Subha Community Program Support, India Program Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Letters of authority or press cards (was: Backup for Wikipedians)
Agree with Srikanth, as I can't join the chapter because I'm underage. Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 02:49:39 -0800 From: parakara.gh...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Letters of authority or press cards (was: Backup for Wikipedians) I agree with fae about the entire issue. Last week, there was an Academy in Coimbatore at the Amrita University where I was denied entry as my ID card didn't state Wikipedia. For Commons, this may not be of much use. Most Police men chase us away for pulling out a Camera in Public. However, I do not see this reaching non members of the chapter, especially the under age ones like Vibhijain, or others. Re, On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote: Further to Theo's suggestion (inline below) On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Great suggestion Fae. As Srikanth correctly pointed it out, such an ID would be under the content scope, which neither the chapter or the WMF India operations have any jurisdiction over. I remember a couple of years ago, Wikinews tried this for their active editors, offering to print them 'official reporter' IDs. It was an idea at the time, and I'm not sure if they actually implemented it or not. For photographers, this would be the commons community. This shouldn't be too hard, I suggest someone mentioning the political situation and suggesting this for commons photographers in the VP. The great thing is since, it would be the community who would award it, there is little or no direct liability to an official body. There should however be a contribution record or an endorsement from someone to print these out. One thing the chapter can do however, is offer a special member/photographers ID to the existing members. This could be at a surcharge so they don't undertake any expense- they can print out plastic IDs with photos, and membership detail of the existing members. This ID might be able to suffice for the purpose. I don't think that the card should necessarily be printed at a centralised location. In fact, I don't even think this is desirable (from security and logistics viewpoints). It should be fairly simple to 'approve' a request for accreditation (framework discussed already), then lead to a web-based one-time card generator that the user can print and laminate herself. In case of problems printing, the user should have a fallback option to report the failure, in order to enable a second attempt for the card to be printed. Regards Theo On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 8:15 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: The chapter can officially decide it only after a discussion within Board , SIG leadership and the members. But on a personal level, I agree with Anirudh's view on this. Since it brings strong accountability for the chapter on the use of the ID by the recipients , this has to be done with caution and utmost care. May be we can set up an empowered committee to review such requests and grant them. ( just a suggestion) Nevertheless, IMHO, such id cards should be issued to only trusted Wikimedians with a substantial amount of history with our projects and mission. Regards Tinu Cherian On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: We do need a Chapter EC Board member to respond to this. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: The question whether the Chapter will help someone if they get into some sort of trouble with the authorities is an important one and should be addressed. Once a letter of authority is issued to a volunteer, the chapter's reputation and credibility is on the line. Therefore, the chapter must endeavor to only approve those members who have a substantial amount of history with our projects and their mission. In such a scenario, I would expect the chapter to extend help to those it endorses. anirudh (personal opinion) On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 18:24, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: Will the chapter or India Programs provide assistance? IIRC both of them lie outside the content boundary and wouldn't be helping. I dont recollect reading anything like protecting interests of wikipedians on the chapter's mission / vision. Form a political party (since asking the current ones might not help!) and fight for it, else sit at home and edit non controversial stuff like Brinjal :P Supporting Wikimedia volunteers in their mission to expand the scope and variety of content on Wikimedia projects is an important part of our stated goals. I think this is a
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
Hey Subhashish, I think it's a great idea. In case people are thinking of recording such a video, I would love to help you edit and here are some suggestions for community members: 1) Put it on your next meetup agenda. Do it in the meetup itself 2) It could be one single person saying I edit wikipedia or a group. More than 1 is welcome 3) For editing purposes, it is better if you record video in room with LESS noise and MORE light 4) Try and keep video in MPEG, Avi or MP4, so that while editing we don't have to convert and lose quality. 5) You can use any normal digital camera, even your (iphone) camera :P Just try and minimize shaking. Cheers Noopur 2012/2/7 Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org: Deal all, As a part of helping the community to reach out to more people apart from the presentations, handouts, FAQs and mailing list support we also have need for more visuals. Audio/Video clips containing Indian Wikipedians sharing their message I EDIT WIKIPEDIA or I EDIT AN INDIAN LANGUAGE WIKIPEDIA or WIKIPEDIA IS HELPING ME DOCUMENTING MY HERITAGE will create impact among people and motivate them to contribute to Wikipedia. Many people use Wikipedia in a daily basis without being aware of they can also [Edit] it, social media, Youtube, mails containing link to such a video can be used to reach this message to them. Moreover, such videos which are already there in Outreach (outreach.wikimedia.org) Bookshelf might make some people feel it's project being managed by some foreigners. Seeing some real Indians editing Wikipedia with the Main page of an Indian language background will definitely make this message clearer. If there is a fairly good no of community members located in anywhere in India (e.g Pune, Bangalore and Mumbai community) we can ask the community members say it altogether aloud apart from one/two community members speaking in their own language. I will be posting the details in the community village pumps, you are allowed to send as many people's footage as you can provided the video and audio quality are reasonable good. We will be collecting footage from all the communities and do a post production. Subha Community Program Support, India Program Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-in-en mailing list wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-en -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
Hey,+1 to this, I can help(composing, editing).Konarak. Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:10:06 +0530 From: noopur.ra...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Hey Subhashish, I think it's a great idea. In case people are thinking of recording such a video, I would love to help you edit and here are some suggestions for community members: 1) Put it on your next meetup agenda. Do it in the meetup itself 2) It could be one single person saying I edit wikipedia or a group. More than 1 is welcome 3) For editing purposes, it is better if you record video in room with LESS noise and MORE light 4) Try and keep video in MPEG, Avi or MP4, so that while editing we don't have to convert and lose quality. 5) You can use any normal digital camera, even your (iphone) camera :P Just try and minimize shaking. Cheers Noopur 2012/2/7 Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org: Deal all, As a part of helping the community to reach out to more people apart from the presentations, handouts, FAQs and mailing list support we also have need for more visuals. Audio/Video clips containing Indian Wikipedians sharing their message I EDIT WIKIPEDIA or I EDIT AN INDIAN LANGUAGE WIKIPEDIA or WIKIPEDIA IS HELPING ME DOCUMENTING MY HERITAGE will create impact among people and motivate them to contribute to Wikipedia. Many people use Wikipedia in a daily basis without being aware of they can also [Edit] it, social media, Youtube, mails containing link to such a video can be used to reach this message to them. Moreover, such videos which are already there in Outreach (outreach.wikimedia.org) Bookshelf might make some people feel it's project being managed by some foreigners. Seeing some real Indians editing Wikipedia with the Main page of an Indian language background will definitely make this message clearer. If there is a fairly good no of community members located in anywhere in India (e.g Pune, Bangalore and Mumbai community) we can ask the community members say it altogether aloud apart from one/two community members speaking in their own language. I will be posting the details in the community village pumps, you are allowed to send as many people's footage as you can provided the video and audio quality are reasonable good. We will be collecting footage from all the communities and do a post production. Subha Community Program Support, India Program Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-in-en mailing list wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-en -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
Nitika MikeLynch some others have just begin working in this field and a prototype video on how to create an account has been made. Imho these efforts should be combined. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey, +1 to this, I can help(composing, editing). Konarak. Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:10:06 +0530 From: noopur.ra...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Hey Subhashish, I think it's a great idea. In case people are thinking of recording such a video, I would love to help you edit and here are some suggestions for community members: 1) Put it on your next meetup agenda. Do it in the meetup itself 2) It could be one single person saying I edit wikipedia or a group. More than 1 is welcome 3) For editing purposes, it is better if you record video in room with LESS noise and MORE light 4) Try and keep video in MPEG, Avi or MP4, so that while editing we don't have to convert and lose quality. 5) You can use any normal digital camera, even your (iphone) camera :P Just try and minimize shaking. Cheers Noopur 2012/2/7 Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org: Deal all, As a part of helping the community to reach out to more people apart from the presentations, handouts, FAQs and mailing list support we also have need for more visuals. Audio/Video clips containing Indian Wikipedians sharing their message I EDIT WIKIPEDIA or I EDIT AN INDIAN LANGUAGE WIKIPEDIA or WIKIPEDIA IS HELPING ME DOCUMENTING MY HERITAGE will create impact among people and motivate them to contribute to Wikipedia. Many people use Wikipedia in a daily basis without being aware of they can also [Edit] it, social media, Youtube, mails containing link to such a video can be used to reach this message to them. Moreover, such videos which are already there in Outreach (outreach.wikimedia.org) Bookshelf might make some people feel it's project being managed by some foreigners. Seeing some real Indians editing Wikipedia with the Main page of an Indian language background will definitely make this message clearer. If there is a fairly good no of community members located in anywhere in India (e.g Pune, Bangalore and Mumbai community) we can ask the community members say it altogether aloud apart from one/two community members speaking in their own language. I will be posting the details in the community village pumps, you are allowed to send as many people's footage as you can provided the video and audio quality are reasonable good. We will be collecting footage from all the communities and do a post production. Subha Community Program Support, India Program Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-in-en mailing list wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-en -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] No. of edits increase by 199% on Marathi Wikipedia in Dec.
Dear All, We, the team of Marathi Wikipedia is putting lot of efforts in increasing the content and no. of edits. The participation from online editors, active contribution by bots and various out-reach activities including wiki-academies done in Pune and Mumbai are helping a lot. The edit percentage has increased by 199%in the month of December 2011 over the last month !!! Here is the snapshot for the confirmation The count of active Marathi Wikipedians is also increasing and the quality of edits is also improving. With this email, I want to congratulate all the Marathi Wikipedia contributers and request all of them to keep the good work With Regards, Mandar V. Kulkarni http://mr.wikipedia.org Pune SIGattachment: Marathi Wikipedia - Dec. 2011 performance.PNG___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione
Sad. In his time Nichalp was a legend. his edits along with those of his compatriots gave a solid foundation to articles on India. I always think that we Indians crucify a man for what is NOT a heinous crime, yet we tend to be hypocrites in daily life all the time. For my sake, I would rather weigh a man's good versus his bad in a metaphoric balance with sight blindfolded. This is an appropriate time to quote Shakespeare : The evil that men do lives after them, the good is oft' interred with the bones. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:22 PM, guptc...@ovi.com wrote: This is the story of Nichalp[1], an Indian student from Mumbai who became obsessed with editing Wikipedia at a young age. He transformed several articles into featured articles, and became a role model for many editors. He was granted the bureaucrat, oversight and administrator privileges - nobody deserved these rights more than him, not even Jimbo. A major change in Nichalp's life came when he came to Australia for higher education. Facing a severe financial crunch, Nichalp decided to use the only extraordinary skill he had - editing Wikipedia - for making money. He put up ads on several freelancer recruiting websites, promising to write articles in oexchange for small amounts of money.[2] These were the days when the PR professionals had started realizing the importance of Wikipedia. There were many takers for Nichalp's services. With his sockpuppet accounts, Nichalp made a number of contributions (many of which stand deleted now). Unfortunately for Nichalp, the Wikizealots live in an idealistic world. They don't realize that, in the long run, editors cannot be expected to devote their time to the project for free.[3] When the Wikihounds came to know about one of Nichalp's paid editing accounts they came after him. Nichalp knew he would be stalked in real life, so he made his main account inactive. Meanwhile, he continued to be active through his other paid editing accounts. A man of foresight, Nichalp started another account in April 2009 to gain back his admin rights.[4] The Wikihounds have an astonishing ability to track the suspicious accounts - they tracked another one of Nichalp's paid editing accouents.[5] The drama prompted the Arbitration Committee to send him an email enquiry about the paid editing concerns. Nichalp's identity was well-known to those who had exposed his paid editing. The personal information that he had posted earlier on his user page and elsewhere on Wikipedia (and social networking sites) had made it easy for Wikihounds to stalk him in real life. Denial was not an option - Nichalp knew the Wikihounds were capable of producing evidence against him. Pleading not guilty would only gather more eyeballs and possibly lead to media attention - that could sabotage his post-college career. Pleading guilty was not an option either - it would lead to the same fate. Nichalp did what he felt was the best option before him. He neither accepted the charge, nor denied it. What happened next was unfortunate for him. Ignoring his 5-year long devotion to the project, the Arbitration Committee took away his bureaucrat, administrator and oversight rights in an unopposed judgment.[6] Realizing that his paid editing accounts may be under survelliance from the Wikihounds, Nichalp abandoned all of them. All of them, except one - the one he had started in April 2009 with the objective of gaining back his admin rights: Wifione. Nichalp carefully crafted his new wiki identity. He devoted this new account to earning money from India's most notorious self-styled management guru. To make sure his paid editing does not appear blatantly obvious, Nichalp (or shall we call him Wifione, now?) engaged in a wide range of edits. Wifione rose up in the wiki-hierarchy and became the administrator. He tried not to appear like a paid editor, but the constant pressure from his client forced him to make constant edits to the pages associated with the client. Anyone looking at his top 50 edits would not fail to notice that much of his work in the article namespace was devoted to the pages associated with his client and its competitors.[7] But Wifione knew that nobody would oppose him openly: his client is infamous for suing any one who criticizes him or his organization. Nobody wants to be sued for 500 million bucks in a court that lies in the remotest part of the Indian subcontinent - traveling to and staying in Silchar during every court hearing could bankrupt a humble wiki editor. Besides, Wifione had taken care not to repeat the mistakes he had made as Nichalp - he had left no tracks that would lead the Wikihounds to him. Or so he thought. [1] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nichalp [2]
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione
hi, I do not understand why this accusation is written as a work of fiction. Whatever the problems faced by an individual, it does not provide grounds for crimes like theft. If the person does resort to these methods, has to face the consequences, if found out. I am sure we appreciated User:Nichalp's contributions when they were made. However, when he/she has made mistakes and makes them multiple times, I think this also warrants serious investigation. Pradeep Handheld On 07/02/2012, guptc...@ovi.com guptc...@ovi.com wrote: This is the story of Nichalp[1], an Indian student from Mumbai who became obsessed with editing Wikipedia at a young age. He transformed several articles into featured articles, and became a role model for many editors. He was granted the bureaucrat, oversight and administrator privileges - nobody deserved these rights more than him, not even Jimbo. A major change in Nichalp's life came when he came to Australia for higher education. Facing a severe financial crunch, Nichalp decided to use the only extraordinary skill he had - editing Wikipedia - for making money. He put up ads on several freelancer recruiting websites, promising to write articles in oexchange for small amounts of money.[2] These were the days when the PR professionals had started realizing the importance of Wikipedia. There were many takers for Nichalp's services. With his sockpuppet accounts, Nichalp made a number of contributions (many of which stand deleted now). Unfortunately for Nichalp, the Wikizealots live in an idealistic world. They don't realize that, in the long run, editors cannot be expected to devote their time to the project for free.[3] When the Wikihounds came to know about one of Nichalp's paid editing accounts they came after him. Nichalp knew he would be stalked in real life, so he made his main account inactive. Meanwhile, he continued to be active through his other paid editing accounts. A man of foresight, Nichalp started another account in April 2009 to gain back his admin rights.[4] The Wikihounds have an astonishing ability to track the suspicious accounts - they tracked another one of Nichalp's paid editing accouents.[5] The drama prompted the Arbitration Committee to send him an email enquiry about the paid editing concerns. Nichalp's identity was well-known to those who had exposed his paid editing. The personal information that he had posted earlier on his user page and elsewhere on Wikipedia (and social networking sites) had made it easy for Wikihounds to stalk him in real life. Denial was not an option - Nichalp knew the Wikihounds were capable of producing evidence against him. Pleading not guilty would only gather more eyeballs and possibly lead to media attention - that could sabotage his post-college career. Pleading guilty was not an option either - it would lead to the same fate. Nichalp did what he felt was the best option before him. He neither accepted the charge, nor denied it. What happened next was unfortunate for him. Ignoring his 5-year long devotion to the project, the Arbitration Committee took away his bureaucrat, administrator and oversight rights in an unopposed judgment.[6] Realizing that his paid editing accounts may be under survelliance from the Wikihounds, Nichalp abandoned all of them. All of them, except one - the one he had started in April 2009 with the objective of gaining back his admin rights: Wifione. Nichalp carefully crafted his new wiki identity. He devoted this new account to earning money from India's most notorious self-styled management guru. To make sure his paid editing does not appear blatantly obvious, Nichalp (or shall we call him Wifione, now?) engaged in a wide range of edits. Wifione rose up in the wiki-hierarchy and became the administrator. He tried not to appear like a paid editor, but the constant pressure from his client forced him to make constant edits to the pages associated with the client. Anyone looking at his top 50 edits would not fail to notice that much of his work in the article namespace was devoted to the pages associated with his client and its competitors.[7] But Wifione knew that nobody would oppose him openly: his client is infamous for suing any one who criticizes him or his organization. Nobody wants to be sued for 500 million bucks in a court that lies in the remotest part of the Indian subcontinent - traveling to and staying in Silchar during every court hearing could bankrupt a humble wiki editor. Besides, Wifione had taken care not to repeat the mistakes he had made as Nichalp - he had left no tracks that would lead the Wikihounds to him. Or so he thought. [1] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nichalp [2] wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=1122a1d3e604276b519c9501881856f4showtopic=24786st=0p=177577#entry177577 [3] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Paid_editing [4]
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Letters of authority or press cards (was: Backup for Wikipedians)
If this get implemented with enough background check with rigid criteria like credible 300 uploads/3000 edits +1 yr active participation in any indian lang wiki project so as active users can get full advantage, it will be great. Such a criteria will help to keep self proclaimed or self appointed wikipedia enthusiasists away from taking over wikimedians or misusing wikipedia photographer status. On 07/02/2012, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Agree with Srikanth, as I can't join the chapter because I'm underage. Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 02:49:39 -0800 From: parakara.gh...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Letters of authority or press cards (was: Backup for Wikipedians) I agree with fae about the entire issue. Last week, there was an Academy in Coimbatore at the Amrita University where I was denied entry as my ID card didn't state Wikipedia. For Commons, this may not be of much use. Most Police men chase us away for pulling out a Camera in Public. However, I do not see this reaching non members of the chapter, especially the under age ones like Vibhijain, or others. Re, On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote: Further to Theo's suggestion (inline below) On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Great suggestion Fae. As Srikanth correctly pointed it out, such an ID would be under the content scope, which neither the chapter or the WMF India operations have any jurisdiction over. I remember a couple of years ago, Wikinews tried this for their active editors, offering to print them 'official reporter' IDs. It was an idea at the time, and I'm not sure if they actually implemented it or not. For photographers, this would be the commons community. This shouldn't be too hard, I suggest someone mentioning the political situation and suggesting this for commons photographers in the VP. The great thing is since, it would be the community who would award it, there is little or no direct liability to an official body. There should however be a contribution record or an endorsement from someone to print these out. One thing the chapter can do however, is offer a special member/photographers ID to the existing members. This could be at a surcharge so they don't undertake any expense- they can print out plastic IDs with photos, and membership detail of the existing members. This ID might be able to suffice for the purpose. I don't think that the card should necessarily be printed at a centralised location. In fact, I don't even think this is desirable (from security and logistics viewpoints). It should be fairly simple to 'approve' a request for accreditation (framework discussed already), then lead to a web-based one-time card generator that the user can print and laminate herself. In case of problems printing, the user should have a fallback option to report the failure, in order to enable a second attempt for the card to be printed. Regards Theo On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 8:15 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: The chapter can officially decide it only after a discussion within Board , SIG leadership and the members. But on a personal level, I agree with Anirudh's view on this. Since it brings strong accountability for the chapter on the use of the ID by the recipients , this has to be done with caution and utmost care. May be we can set up an empowered committee to review such requests and grant them. ( just a suggestion) Nevertheless, IMHO, such id cards should be issued to only trusted Wikimedians with a substantial amount of history with our projects and mission. Regards Tinu Cherian On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: We do need a Chapter EC Board member to respond to this. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: The question whether the Chapter will help someone if they get into some sort of trouble with the authorities is an important one and should be addressed. Once a letter of authority is issued to a volunteer, the chapter's reputation and credibility is on the line. Therefore, the chapter must endeavor to only approve those members who have a substantial amount of history with our projects and their mission. In such a scenario, I would expect the chapter to extend help to those it endorses. anirudh (personal opinion) On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 18:24, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: Will the chapter or India Programs provide assistance? IIRC both of them lie outside the content
