Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad
Hi, A local MediaWiki Group is a nice initiative be it in Ahmedabad or anywhere else as long as there are enthusiastic volunteers involved. It'll be nice to see this group come to life (MediaWiki group Ahmedabad or a chapter SIG). I must say it's quite awkward not seeing any involvement of Harsh, as the proposer of this group, in this discussion while he's been sending emails to other lists. Best, -- Konarak Ratnakar ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
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*Hi all, There have been numerous outreach sessions organized all across India, so we decided to organize a WikiWorkshop of our own in Ahmedabad. :) We decided on the Electronics and Communication Engineering department at LD Engineering College as the venue a couple of weeks earlier. This was mainly because Harsh was confident that we would be able to obtain all the permissions to use a classroom in time. The date was pretty convenient since it was a state-wide holiday due to Parshuram Jayanti. We had also invited Hisham to be a part of the event during Office hours on 19 April 2012. Hisham accepted our invitation to fly in and help us conduct the workshop. Nitika followed up with the presentations and offered to help us with event planning. Arnav Sonara, a Gujarati and English Wikipedia volunteer translated parts of Nitika’s presentation into the Gujarati language. We received confirmation of participation from 42 students through a Google Docs based sign up page created by me. This was very heartening and we expected at least half of the students to actually turn up for the event. ;) Hisham landed in Ahmedabad at 8.40am and was available at the venue around 9.30am. Anirudh and I joined in later. Hisham guided Harsh and I through the presentation he was carrying so that Harsh could use them later for future workshops in the city. The time period before the scheduled time for the session was spent discussing ideas with regard to the purpose and objectives of outreach. Hisham opined that it is important to keep pursuing the newbies after they attend outreach sessions and workshops, while Anirudh said that was probably not the best use of scarce volunteer time, which could be better spent contributing to the projects themselves, and helping those editors who approach the veteran contributors on their own accord. We are interested in learning from the follow-up work that the WMF India team has done with regard to the programs it has run in the past and its direct success with the recruitment of new editors. We hope this will start a useful discussion. Seventeen people turned up for the workshop. This included Vyom Majmudar, a veteran Gujarati Wikipedia and a frequent Wikisource editor and Karthik Mistry, a Debian geek and FOSS advocate. I commenced the session by introducing Hisham to the participants. Hisham then began with his presentation. The agenda of this workshop was to acquaint the participants basics of Wikipedia editing - five pillars, notability guidelines, followed by a short editing session. Hisham guided the participants through the first four pillars of Wikipedia but did not speak about the fifth pillar ([[WP:IAR|There are no firm rules on Wikipedia]]). He told me that it would be a bit too advanced for new editors to understand, and then asked to explain it to the participants. Anirudh also elaborated on the third pillar of Wikipedia ([[Wikipedia:Wikipedia is free content]]) that Wikipedia not only provides content free of charge, but that the users of the website are free to edit, use, modify and distribute the content. Free as in free beer, and free as in free speech and free markets. :) After the presentation was concluded, eleven people stayed back in the workshop out of which five were completely new to editing. We edited both the English and Gujarati Wikipedia projects. [[w:gu:User:Shaildve]] created three stubs while being guided by Vyom. [[User:Chirayu.Chiripal]], who, by the way, does not speak Gujarati, has started contributing to Gujarati Wikipedia by making templates. \m/ The City Bhaskar covered the story on the workshop.[1][2] Many thanks to Noopur Raval for connecting us with the journalist. Overall, we think there is scope for improvement in the way we present Wikimedia projects to new users. Some of the topics we touched and discussed such as notability guidelines, referencing and the five pillars could have been presented in a more coherent manner. These are some of the things we will be working on in the near future and would really like to take help from more veteran Wikipedia editors to promote our projects in the state of Gujarat. (Ashwin, are you listening? :P) TL;DR: The Ahmedabad workshop was organized by Konarak Ratnakar and Harsh Kothari on 24 April 2012. Seventeen participants attended the event. Anirudh Bhati (Wikimedia India) and Hisham Mundol (WMF India Programs) were also present. Hisham addressed the new users initially with a presentation, and later the experienced contributors trained and answered the newbies. It was great to have two veteran contributors like Vyom and Anirudh around, who helped out greatly during the sessions. There is a lot of scope for improvement in the quality of our outreach sessions and each and every one of these events contributes to their constant improvement. Best regards, Konarak Ratnakar (with inputs from Anirudh Bhati) [1] http://epaper.divyabhaskar.co.in/detail.php?id=119618boxid
[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Workshop - LD Engineering College - 24 April 2012 - Report
Sorry sorry, Haste makes waste this applies here. Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 00:28:02 +0530 From: konarak...@live.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] wikipedia...@lists.wikimedia.org, wikimedia-in-...@lists.wikimedia.org Hi all, There have been numerous outreach sessions organized all across India, so we decided to organize a WikiWorkshop of our own in Ahmedabad. :) We decided on the Electronics and Communication Engineering department at LD Engineering College as the venue a couple of weeks earlier. This was mainly because Harsh was confident that we would be able to obtain all the permissions to use a classroom in time. The date was pretty convenient since it was a state-wide holiday due to Parshuram Jayanti. We had also invited Hisham to be a part of the event during Office hours on 19 April 2012. Hisham accepted our invitation to fly in and help us conduct the workshop. Nitika followed up with the presentations and offered to help us with event planning. Arnav Sonara, a Gujarati and English Wikipedia volunteer translated parts of Nitika’s presentation into the Gujarati language. We received confirmation of participation from 42 students through a Google Docs based sign up page created by me. This was very heartening and we expected at least half of the students to actually turn up for the event. ;) Hisham landed in Ahmedabad at 8.40am and was available at the venue around 9.30am. Anirudh and I joined in later. Hisham guided Harsh and I through the presentation he was carrying so that Harsh could use them later for future workshops in the city. The time period before the scheduled time for the session was spent discussing ideas with regard to the purpose and objectives of outreach. Hisham opined that it is important to keep pursuing the newbies after they attend outreach sessions and workshops, while Anirudh said that was probably not the best use of scarce volunteer time, which could be better spent contributing to the projects themselves, and helping those editors who approach the veteran contributors on their own accord. We are interested in learning from the follow-up work that the WMF India team has done with regard to the programs it has run in the past and its direct success with the recruitment of new editors. We hope this will start a useful discussion. Seventeen people turned up for the workshop. This included Vyom Majmudar, a veteran Gujarati Wikipedia and a frequent Wikisource editor and Karthik Mistry, a Debian geek and FOSS advocate. I commenced the session by introducing Hisham to the participants. Hisham then began with his presentation. The agenda of this workshop was to acquaint the participants basics of Wikipedia editing - five pillars, notability guidelines, followed by a short editing session. Hisham guided the participants through the first four pillars of Wikipedia but did not speak about the fifth pillar ([[WP:IAR|There are no firm rules on Wikipedia]]). He told me that it would be a bit too advanced for new editors to understand, and then asked to explain it to the participants. Anirudh also elaborated on the third pillar of Wikipedia ([[Wikipedia:Wikipedia is free content]]) that Wikipedia not only provides content free of charge, but that the users of the website are free to edit, use, modify and distribute the content. Free as in free beer, and free as in free speech and free markets. :) After the presentation was concluded, eleven people stayed back in the workshop out of which five were completely new to editing. We edited both the English and Gujarati Wikipedia projects. [[w:gu:User:Shaildve]] created three stubs while being guided by Vyom. [[User:Chirayu.Chiripal]], who, by the way, does not speak Gujarati, has started contributing to Gujarati Wikipedia by making templates. \m/ The City Bhaskar covered the story on the workshop.[1][2] Many thanks to Noopur Raval for connecting us with the journalist. Overall, we think there is scope for improvement in the way we present Wikimedia projects to new users. Some of the topics we touched and discussed such as notability guidelines, referencing and the five pillars could have been presented in a more coherent manner. These are some of the things we will be working on in the near future and would really like to take help from more veteran Wikipedia editors to promote our projects in the state of Gujarat. (Ashwin, are you listening? :P) TL;DR: The Ahmedabad workshop was organized by Konarak Ratnakar and Harsh Kothari on 24 April 2012. Seventeen participants attended the event. Anirudh Bhati (Wikimedia India) and Hisham Mundol (WMF India Programs) were also present. Hisham addressed the new users initially with a presentation, and later the experienced contributors trained and answered the newbies. It was great to have two veteran contributors like Vyom and Anirudh around, who helped out
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Chennai Unofficial Wikimedia Hackathon Report
Hi guys,Congratulations on the success of the Chennai Unofficial Wikimedia Hackathon. I have two requests.1. Can Shrinivasan (or anyone else) provide us with english subtitles or english audio of the video that you uploaded on Youtube?2. Can Shrinivasan update the Readme file on voice-recorder-for-tawictionary / repo?Regards,Konarak Ratnakar | kondi PS: Yuvi Panda that mail I accidently sent you was supposed to be sent on this list. From: yuvipa...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:47:29 +0530 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Chennai Unofficial Wikimedia Hackathon Report The Chennai Unofficial Wikimedia Hackathon Report Apologies for the delayed email. Work ate me. TL;DR: 13 completed hacks, including 2 core mediawiki patches, 3 tawiki userscript updates and 2 new deployed tools. It was super awesome and super productive! The 'Unofficial' Chennai Wikimedia Hackathon(http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Chennai_Hackathon_March_2012) happened on Saturday, March 17 2012 at the Thoughtworks office in Chennai. It was a one day, 8 hour event focusing on getting people together to hack on stuff related to all Wikimedia projects - not just Mediawiki patches. The event started with us sailing past security reasonably easily, and getting setup with internet without a glitch. People trickled in and soon enough we had 21 people in there. Since this was a pure hackathon, there were no explicit tutorials or presentations. As people came in, we asked them what technologies/fields they are familiar with, and picked out an idea for them to work on from the Ideas List (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Chennai_Hackathon_March_2012/Ideas). This took care of the biggest problem with hackathons with new people - half the day spent on figuring out what to work on, and when found, it is completely outside the domain of expertise of the people hacking on the idea. Talking together with them fast to pick an idea within 5 minutes that they can complete in the day fixed this problem and made sure people can concentrate on coding for the rest of the day. People started hacking, and just before lunch we made people come up and tell us what they were working on. We then broke for lunch and usual socialization happened over McDonalds burgers and Saravana Bhavan dosas. Hacking started soon after, and people were concentrating on getting their hacks done before the demo time. And we did have quite a few demos! Demos = Here's a short description of each of the demos, written purely in the order in which they were presented: 1. Wikiquotes via SMS By: @MadhuVishy and @YesKarthik What it does: Send a person name to a particular number, and you'll keep getting back quotes from that person. Works in similar semi-automated fashion as the DYKBot. Built on AppEngine + Python. Status: Deployed live! Send SMS '@wikiquote Gandhi' to 9243342000 to test it out! Has limited data right now, however. --- 2. API to Rotate Images (Mediawiki Core Patch) By: Vivek What it does: Adds an API method that can arbitrarily rotate images. Think of this as first step towards being able to rotate any image in commons with a single button instantly, without having to wait for a bot. Patch was attached to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33186. Status: It was reviewed on that day itself (Thanks Reedy!). Vivek is now figuring out how to modify his patch so that it would be accepted into Mediawiki core. Vivek is also applying to work with Mediawiki for GSoC, so we will hopefully get a long term contributor :) --- 3. Find list of unique Tamil words in tawiki By: Shrinivasan T What it does: It took the entire tamil wikipedia dump and extracted all unique words out of it. About 1.3 million unique tamil words were extracted. Has multiple applications, including a tamil spell checker. Status: Code and the dataset live on github: https://github.com/tshrinivasan/tamil-wikipedia-word-list --- 4. Program to help record pronunciations for words in tawikt What it does: Simple python program that gives you a word, asks you to pronounce it and then uploads it to commons for being used in Wiktionary. Makes the process much more streamlined and faster. Status: Code available at: https://github.com/tshrinivasan/voice-recorder-for-tawictionary. Preliminary testing with his friends shows that easy to record 500 words in half an hour. Is currently blocked on figuring out a way to properly upload to commons --- 5. Translation of Gadgets/UserScripts to tawiki By: SuryaPrakash [[:ta:பயனர்:Surya_Prakash.S.A.]] What he did: Surya spent the day translating two gadgets into Tamil, so they can be used on tawiki. First is the 'Prove It' Reference addition tool (http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediawiki:Gadget-ProveIt.js). The second one was the 'Speed Reader' extension that formats content into multiple columns for faster
[Wikimediaindia-l] FW: [Wikipedia-gu] Gujarati Source completes 1000 articles
FYI Konarak Ratnakar | kondi Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 07:18:18 + To: gu.wikipe...@gmail.com; wikipedia...@lists.wikimedia.org From: sushant_sa...@rediffmail.com Subject: [Wikipedia-gu] Gujarati Source completes 1000 articles Dear All, We are happy to inform you all that our wiki source has completed its first goal of completing 1000 articles There is still long way to go... Now our second aim... Completion of First Book on Wiki Source! Sushant Follow Rediff Deal ho jaye! to get exciting offers in your city everyday. ___ Wikipedia-gu mailing list wikipedia...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-gu ___ Wikipedia-gu mailing list wikipedia...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-gu ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FW: [Wikipedia-gu] Gujarati Source completes 1000 articles
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 13:57:57 +0530 From: arunra...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FW: [Wikipedia-gu] Gujarati Source completes 1000 articles Congratulations to all Gujarati wikisource contributors!This is great to hear. Indeed this is great. It would be great if you could share some insight into the type of content covered by the 1000 articles. And the active contributors and their key contributions.best regardsArun User:Yann (admin) User:Ashok modhvadia, User:Sushant savla, these three contributors are most active.(I might work on Wikisource in near future.)We have poems, stories, history, bhajans and religious, political and social literature. 37 articles in category St. Kabir and 2 articles in Abraham Lincoln. I hope this helps. Konarak Ratnakar | kondi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events
The question just got asked when I was about to ask it. The problem is that the organisers end their activities with the upload of hundreds of images. The cleanup is expected to be done by un-named, unknown others. The encyclopedic value of the images that the people took in the photothon never get realised. The organisers of any photothon must realise that the photothon should end only after the Juice is squeezed out of each image. Better to have 50 good images, catalogued and embellishing articles than thousands [[waiting for Godot]]. Take a look at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ahmedabad_1 you're talking about something like this, right Ashwin? Konarak Ratnakar | kondi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events
Agreed, I wasn't involved in editing until the Ahmedabad photowalk happened, else I'd have helped.I suggest we should segregate the photos in sub categories, while keeping track of those identical images that should be deleted. Konarak Ratnakar | kondi Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:09:10 +0530 From: ashwin.bain...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events Yes, Konark. But I do not want to point figures to one event. In my view all events are culprits. Imagine the problem of processing 15K images of the Tamil contest - I shudder to think! Suggestion : No image should be considered eligible for competition till it is uploaded with :* proper description.* suggested/recommended article for image use or for creation.* proper categorisation in Commons. Have volunteers available to help photographers. The photothon should end in an uploading function where volunteers help in these aspects.Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: The question just got asked when I was about to ask it. The problem is that the organisers end their activities with the upload of hundreds of images. The cleanup is expected to be done by un-named, unknown others. The encyclopedic value of the images that the people took in the photothon never get realised. The organisers of any photothon must realise that the photothon should end only after the Juice is squeezed out of each image. Better to have 50 good images, catalogued and embellishing articles than thousands [[waiting for Godot]]. Take a look at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ahmedabad_1 you're talking about something like this, right Ashwin? Konarak Ratnakar | kondi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events
Hey Noopur,If I sounded accusing, I apologize for that. I was going to do this categorization work and saw this mail here.And Anirudh, I'm on it, I'll add/create proper categories to the images. From: anirudh...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 23:19:38 +0530 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged. We kept the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It was decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us really got around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up. There are several reasons for this: It was clearly not your fault. You are a new user and I should have migrated these files to the regular categories. I am now removing [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] and replacing with it [[Category:Ahmedabad]] and [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]]. All help is welcome, these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new one you can create those and add the cat to these files. I'm no expert on Commons categorization, but there are a bunch of helpful power users available on #wikipedia-en and #wikimedia-commons who can help you out with that. We decided to go with [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] instead of [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] because we assumed that would make it easier for the users to add these categories easily. 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event to make Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there. Indeed. A few good images made it to the articles, while a couple of images inspired creation of articles around important monuments. See [[Hutheesing Jain Temple]] (and thanks Srikeit for that). 2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But, I/We are no one to judge whose image stays or goes. Yes, indeed. Thanks, anirudh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report: Wiki workshop @ IIT Delhi
Hey,FYI I think there is no need of individual article for Tryst. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Education_in_India#College_festivals_notabilityKonarak Ratnakar | kondi Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:42:43 -0700 From: hideeponh...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report: Wiki workshop @ IIT Delhi I too think we should conc. more on quality than quantity. If we get 4/5 interested students from a session (be it only 5% or 10%) then we should take good care to support them keep them motivated.. Good point..:-) Deepon On Mar 12, 2012 11:04 PM, Nitika ntan...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi Folks, Kritharth is a student at IIT and has been actively involved in Wikipedia monthly meet-ups in Delhi. It was through him that we got in touch with the organisers at Tryst - annual tech fest organized by IIT-Delhi. I'd really like to thank him for helping us organise this session and a big thank you to Noopur, Rajesh and Piyush for all their help. Two Wikipedia sessions were conducted at IIT Delhi during their tech fest Tryst 2012. The underlying idea was to explain the basics of Wikipedia, 5 Pillars, few policies, anatomy of an article and provide some hands-on training on basic Wikipedia editing. Two sessions were conducted in a slight different manner since we wanted to test effectiveness of different methods. My mail will explain different approaches that were adopted for each of these sessions and outcomes of the same. First session on March 3rd, Saturday: About 50 attendees participated in a 3 hour long session. There were IIT students, students from other engineering colleges in NCR and some working fellows amongst the participants. User:Hisham started the session by introducing Wikipedia, who edits Wikipedia, 5 pillars, few Wikipedia policies. We then moved on to actual hands on editing and taught them basic Wikipedia editing. Some students raised really intelligent questions about referencing and NPOV. Though, we noticed that a lot of students lost interest and focus when we spoke about Wikipedia Policies in detail which took over half an hour. During the session we demonstrated by editing articles on Tryst - IIT Delhi and IIT Delhi. Just the fact that the participants willingly sat through such a long session and had several questions shows their genuine interest in learning more about Wikipedia. About 6 students (12%) created their usernames after the session and 2 (4%) have attempted to make minor edits after the session. A big thank you to User:Piyush.Aggarwal and User:RajeshPandey for all their help and support. Second session on March 5th, Monday:There were about 40 participants. Once again, there was mix of IIT and non-IIT students. We organised the session a bit differently - after giving a brief introduction about Wikipedia and showing some basic editing we invited the uninterested participants to feel free to leave the session and requested only the interested lot to stay back for the remaining session. The participants were informed that in the second half of the session we'll be talking in greater detail about Wikipedia policies and do more hands-on editing training hence it made sense only for those students to stay back who'd like to get deeper knowledge about Wikipedia. Eventually we were left with 8 participants but in my opinion that's was the beginning point of a more interactive and interesting session. Each of these 8 participants were more involved when discussing about Wikipedia policies, they wanted to do more hands on editing and we were also able to provide them individual attention because of limited numbers. During the session we edited the article on Chacha Chowdhary and one of the participants started an article on tunde ke kabab. 11 participants (27.5%) created their usernames and 2 (5%) have made few edits post the session. It's great that we're able to get more people involved in Wikipedia activities - participants who were students outside of IIT also want to conduct similar Wikipedia sessions in their campus, 4 of the participants also joined us for the Delhi 7 meet-up. However, I want to focus on few who have shown interest in Wikipedia editing - provide them editing support and keep them motivated. I'm also thinking of a Buddy System to keep these interested participants going and providing them support. If you haven't already guessed what I mean by the name Buddy System please stay tuned, I'll soon send another mail about it - I need your ideas and thoughts (needless to say your support too :-) ThanksNitika ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Featured Wikimedian on the main page of the Chapter Web Portal
Hey, I can, but I don't know if Ssriram_mt is S-Sriram. From: navee...@wikimedia.in Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 20:59:12 +0530 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Featured Wikimedian on the main page of the Chapter Web Portal Sure Ashwin happy to feature all Wikimedians :-) Hoi, Bpositive, S-Sriram Kondicherry can you update page ? http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Featured_Wikimedian How you contribute to Wikimedia projects- editing,photography,outreach,map making ? Please add a photo in the page. Thanks, naveenpf On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: Naveen, the young folk who volunteered to take charge of projects such as Bpositive, S-Sriram Kondicherry may please be considered for this column. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Naveen Francis navee...@wikimedia.in wrote: Hi Abhiram, Will take care this. Please feel free to chip in and help to identify the featured wikipedians across India. -- naveenpf On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Abhiram C abhivasish...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Members, I would like to inform the Wikimedia India Chapter and its volunteers/workers that the Featured Wikimedian for the last 2 months have not been updated as such. I hope those who maintain the portal will look into the matter soon enough not to be obsolete. -- Thanks Regards, Abhiram C (User: sbblr0803) ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Featured Wikimedian on the main page of the Chapter Web Portal
I don't have access for editing that template. Konarak From: konarak...@live.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 21:55:50 +0530 Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Featured Wikimedian on the main page of the Chapter Web Portal Hey, I can, but I don't know if Ssriram_mt is S-Sriram. From: navee...@wikimedia.in Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 20:59:12 +0530 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Featured Wikimedian on the main page of the Chapter Web Portal Sure Ashwin happy to feature all Wikimedians :-) Hoi, Bpositive, S-Sriram Kondicherry can you update page ? http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Featured_Wikimedian How you contribute to Wikimedia projects- editing,photography,outreach,map making ? Please add a photo in the page. Thanks, naveenpf On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: Naveen, the young folk who volunteered to take charge of projects such as Bpositive, S-Sriram Kondicherry may please be considered for this column. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Naveen Francis navee...@wikimedia.in wrote: Hi Abhiram, Will take care this. Please feel free to chip in and help to identify the featured wikipedians across India. -- naveenpf On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Abhiram C abhivasish...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Members, I would like to inform the Wikimedia India Chapter and its volunteers/workers that the Featured Wikimedian for the last 2 months have not been updated as such. I hope those who maintain the portal will look into the matter soon enough not to be obsolete. -- Thanks Regards, Abhiram C (User: sbblr0803) ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Ahmedabad Meetup 3 - Report
Hi everyone, The 3rd Wikipedia Ahmedabad Meetup was arranged on 19th February 2012, at Seva Cafe Navarangpura.[1] Total 5 wikipedians attended the meetup(excluding a volunteer from the venue who also joined us, I've led him to Facebook Mumbai Wikipedia group, he might attend future meetups there.) The meetup started with the discussion on Wikipedians in Ahmedabad. There aren't many people from the city (even Gujarat) who actually edit wikipedia regularly, so we discussed the ideas on getting people aware of what Wikipedia is. Inspired by Bangalore Meetup 42 I'm planning to post a GeoNotice to Wikipedians from Ahmedabad, so if there are users that edit but aren't in active in the community, can come forward. The other ideas that we put on table included a proposal to Smit Shah, a student from LD college of Engineering to lead WikiAcademy in the same college in March or April and as part of GLAM project, try getting information on obtainable and/or given permissions in the Museums in Ahmedabad.[2] Afterwards Kartik Mistry talked about the Gujarati Wikipedia interface translation (on Translatewiki.net). He and another user translated about 1500 interface files to Gujarati, couple of weeks before the meetup. I introduced them to some major details of Wikipedia's Policies and Guidelines and Citing sources, some gadgets that can help them in editing Wikipedia more efficiently, the google books and JSTOR citation tool (which Ashwin Baindur posted on the mailing list some time ago).[3] Finally we had off project discussion about Raspberry Pi and Linux community and stuff like that, and a photo session of course.[4] [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Ahmedabad/Ahmedabad3 [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Museums_in_Ahmedabad[3] http://reftag.appspot.com/ [4] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ahmedabad_Meetup_Feb2012 I would like to thank the Wikimedia India Chapter for their help and guidance with organizing the event,On behalf of Wikimedia Ahmedabad Community, --Konarak Ratnakar | kondi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Volunteer coordinator for WikiProject Gujarat
Thank you guys! --kondi Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 02:52:38 -0800 From: parakara.gh...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Volunteer coordinator for WikiProject Gujarat Yes, a very very warm welcome to Kondi. He's already got two barnstars [one from me, I know], and his article has already gone thru and survived an AfD. Come on young ones, we need more of you. On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends, WikiProject Gujarat is one of the many Task Forces/daughter WikiProjects of WikiProject India on English Wikipedia, I am happy to report that we have new blood and fresh activity in WikiProject Gujarat for last few weeks. The participants of the last photothon are continuing to maintain the momentum gained from that event and we are seeing both results and new initiatives. Senior editors from Gujarat are doing their bit and mentoring the young folk. In this backdrop, it is my privilege to introduce Konarak Ratnakar, (User:Kondicherry) to the community. Konarak has been very active in Ahmedabad meetups and has agreed to promote WikiProject Gujarat on English Wikipedia as a volunteer coordinator. I request you all to join me in welcoming him and also to support him as he goes around reviving the WikiProject. Please note that WikiProject Gujarat, on English Wikipedia is not to be confused with the similar sounding Gujarati Wikipedia. With this, the number of volunteer coordinators on English Wikipedia goes up to three - self, BPositive, and now Kondicherry. The actual requirement is almost one hundred, that is how many departments/TFs/daughter WikiProjects we have! So if anybody would like the stewardship of any function in the WikiProject, be assured there is lots of opportunity and so please step forth and volunteer. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione
What if he's monitoring all India related lists and the related discussions? Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 02:51:33 -0800 From: parakara.gh...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione IT is sad, but true about what happened to Nicholas. While the edits by WifiOne are clearly CoI based, for now I choose to disconnect the user from Nichalp in my POV. Nicholas was the ideal Role model for us back in 2007-8-9. He churned out articles of good quality like no one. It was indeed sad that he had to resort to what he did. It proves that a man is remembered more for what evil deeds he does and not what good he does. Few people would know that Nichalp was the original uploader of Indian maps on Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons. As for the IIPM related edits, yes, not just WifiOne, but another editor, who replied to the Talk page of the 'Management Guru', seem to be doing what it takes from keeping others from editing that article. Said user believes that I, or User:Utcursh shouldn't edit the article AS: i] I tweeted negatively about IIPM. ii] Utcursh is from another Business School an thus has a CoI. This resulted in MikeLynch taking a neutral stand on the talk page which resulted in the said user voting against in Mike's RfA, [and again, blaming it ON me!] I think we need a special talk about this IIPM matter on the English mailing list. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:20 AM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: Wifione commented on this discussion. He redacted some comments there, a few hours later, with this edit on WP:No Original Research - he changed trial to trial/litigation in any country and published by any involved party to published/authored by any involved party and also changed Book Reviews from being considered a secondary source to being considered a primary source. Its interesting to note that the changes he made in policy relate somewhat to the discussion taking place on an article talk page where he was involved. Also, the following statements: Please provide valid sources to support this statement. MSN is not a reliable source. - Wifione 06:26, 3 February 2012 (UTC) (this discussion) The MSN article is actually an article by IANS (an independent News Agency), carried by MSN and others like Yahoo News. A comment about the same Yahoo News article: .. Yahoo link simply shows the opinion of Mr. Devi Singh from IIM Lucknow. That is a self-published statement which should not be used to make a definitive statement. - Wifione 19:02, 5 February 2012 (UTC) (Same discussion) Im not commenting on the contents of the original email, the above definitely looks a bit out of order to me. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 19:37:01 +1100 From: jay...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org CC: wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikie...@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:08 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: Unbelievable but Shocking ! I am not sure if Wikifone is same as Nichalp, ... So far the evidence is not good. but a look at the edit history of Wikifone, the editor has some serious interest to protect the interests of IIPM and its stakeholders. He seems to even change policy pages to suit his cause http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ANo_original_researchaction=historysubmitdiff=475525747oldid=475410422 It looks like he re-arranged the policy a lot in that edit, but there arnt many changes. trial became trial/litigation in any country and he added independent a few times. Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable secondary source for that interpretation. Any interpretation of primary source material requires reliable, independent secondary sources for that interpretation. '''Do not''' analyze, synthesize, interpret, or evaluate material found in a primary source yourself; instead, refer to reliable secondary sources that do so. '''Do not''' analyze, synthesize, interpret, or evaluate material found in a primary source yourself; instead, refer to reliable, independent secondary sources that do so. Wikipedia articles usually rely on material from secondary sources. Articles may make analytic or evaluative claims only if these have been published by a reliable secondary source. Wikipedia articles usually rely on material from reliable secondary sources. Articles ''may'' make an analytic or evaluative claim ''only if'' that has been published by ''multiple'' independent, reliable secondary sources. Wifione seems to be working on IIM and Amity ( Competitors to IIPM) articles as well, possibly trying to show them in bad light. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amity_Universityaction=historysubmitdiff=475405890oldid=474606800 Nevertheless , this has be investigated or
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
Srikanth,The Theora (.ogv) format you are talking about, I don't think has a good quality, instead we should use Matroska (.mkv). Konarak Ratnakar. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 02:35:40 -0800 From: parakara.gh...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Subha, What about the Indian English Community? Noopur, Thanks for the ideas, but one small suggestion. Format- Keep it OGV. We can't be promoting an open project with a closed format video no? Konark, Good to see young brains like you volunteering on this. Ashwin, Can I have a link please? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: Nitika MikeLynch some others have just begin working in this field and a prototype video on how to create an account has been made. Imho these efforts should be combined. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey, +1 to this, I can help(composing, editing). Konarak. Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:10:06 +0530 From: noopur.ra...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Hey Subhashish, I think it's a great idea. In case people are thinking of recording such a video, I would love to help you edit and here are some suggestions for community members: 1) Put it on your next meetup agenda. Do it in the meetup itself 2) It could be one single person saying I edit wikipedia or a group. More than 1 is welcome 3) For editing purposes, it is better if you record video in room with LESS noise and MORE light 4) Try and keep video in MPEG, Avi or MP4, so that while editing we don't have to convert and lose quality. 5) You can use any normal digital camera, even your (iphone) camera :P Just try and minimize shaking. Cheers Noopur 2012/2/7 Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org: Deal all, As a part of helping the community to reach out to more people apart from the presentations, handouts, FAQs and mailing list support we also have need for more visuals. Audio/Video clips containing Indian Wikipedians sharing their message I EDIT WIKIPEDIA or I EDIT AN INDIAN LANGUAGE WIKIPEDIA or WIKIPEDIA IS HELPING ME DOCUMENTING MY HERITAGE will create impact among people and motivate them to contribute to Wikipedia. Many people use Wikipedia in a daily basis without being aware of they can also [Edit] it, social media, Youtube, mails containing link to such a video can be used to reach this message to them. Moreover, such videos which are already there in Outreach (outreach.wikimedia.org) Bookshelf might make some people feel it's project being managed by some foreigners. Seeing some real Indians editing Wikipedia with the Main page of an Indian language background will definitely make this message clearer. If there is a fairly good no of community members located in anywhere in India (e.g Pune, Bangalore and Mumbai community) we can ask the community members say it altogether aloud apart from one/two community members speaking in their own language. I will be posting the details in the community village pumps, you are allowed to send as many people's footage as you can provided the video and audio quality are reasonable good. We will be collecting footage from all the communities and do a post production. Subha Community Program Support, India Program Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-in-en mailing list wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-en -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
Hey Srikanth, that's fine by me, twas just a suggestion, because in .ogv there is loss of quality due to compression. Subhashish, I will, in the Meetup, it's on 19th of feb. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:10:39 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Yes, they are also being invited to participated, it's about Indian Editors and Indian faces. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: And what about participation of the Indian English Community? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Here are the answers I have to all of you.@Noopur: nice points, I am including them all and here is draft for the community which I will be posting in the respective Wikipedia Village pumps. (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1) @Ashwin, the videos you, Nitika and Swaroop are working will be hardcore outreach videos to teach how to edit Wikipedia.@Konarak, thanks a lot buddy, let us get the footages and we would definitely seek your support for the post production. Moover, we would be more than happy if you lead the event to get the videos done in your place from the community members. @Srikanth, the final video will be in Commons and obviously with .ogv format. But the raw footage will be in .mov/avi/mpeg, they are the formats used before editing. After editing we will convert the final video into .ogv. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Subha, What about the Indian English Community? Noopur, Thanks for the ideas, but one small suggestion. Format- Keep it OGV. We can't be promoting an open project with a closed format video no? Konark, Good to see young brains like you volunteering on this. Ashwin, Can I have a link please? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: Nitika MikeLynch some others have just begin working in this field and a prototype video on how to create an account has been made. Imho these efforts should be combined. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey, +1 to this, I can help(composing, editing). Konarak. Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:10:06 +0530 From: noopur.ra...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Hey Subhashish, I think it's a great idea. In case people are thinking of recording such a video, I would love to help you edit and here are some suggestions for community members: 1) Put it on your next meetup agenda. Do it in the meetup itself 2) It could be one single person saying I edit wikipedia or a group. More than 1 is welcome 3) For editing purposes, it is better if you record video in room with LESS noise and MORE light 4) Try and keep video in MPEG, Avi or MP4, so that while editing we don't have to convert and lose quality. 5) You can use any normal digital camera, even your (iphone) camera :P Just try and minimize shaking. Cheers Noopur 2012/2/7 Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org: Deal all, As a part of helping the community to reach out to more people apart from the presentations, handouts, FAQs and mailing list support we also have need for more visuals. Audio/Video clips containing Indian Wikipedians sharing their message I EDIT WIKIPEDIA or I EDIT AN INDIAN LANGUAGE WIKIPEDIA or WIKIPEDIA IS HELPING ME DOCUMENTING MY HERITAGE will create impact among people and motivate them to contribute to Wikipedia. Many people use Wikipedia in a daily basis without being aware of they can also [Edit] it, social media, Youtube, mails containing link to such a video can be used to reach this message to them. Moreover, such videos which are already there in Outreach (outreach.wikimedia.org) Bookshelf might make some people feel it's project being managed by some foreigners. Seeing some real Indians editing Wikipedia with the Main page of an Indian language background will definitely make this message clearer. If there is a fairly good no of community members located in anywhere in India (e.g Pune, Bangalore and Mumbai community) we can ask the community members say it altogether aloud apart from one/two community members speaking in their own language. I will be posting the details in the community village pumps, you are allowed to send as many people's footage as you can provided the video and audio quality are reasonable good. We will be collecting footage from all
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
Subhashis exactly, you might know this, but Xiph (developers of .ogg /.ogv) doesn't even endorse .ogv. And .ogg can be used with Matroska. Though I'll convert the videos in .ogv. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:53:51 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia That sounds good Konarak, and apart from the loss of quality most handy cam users might not be aware of converting them to ogg, but once you convert raw footages to ogg there will be difficulty to edit, because normally the final avi/mpeg is converted to a open source format and uploaded in Commons. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey Srikanth, that's fine by me, twas just a suggestion, because in .ogv there is loss of quality due to compression. Subhashish, I will, in the Meetup, it's on 19th of feb. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:10:39 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Yes, they are also being invited to participated, it's about Indian Editors and Indian faces. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: And what about participation of the Indian English Community? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Here are the answers I have to all of you.@Noopur: nice points, I am including them all and here is draft for the community which I will be posting in the respective Wikipedia Village pumps. (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1) @Ashwin, the videos you, Nitika and Swaroop are working will be hardcore outreach videos to teach how to edit Wikipedia.@Konarak, thanks a lot buddy, let us get the footages and we would definitely seek your support for the post production. Moover, we would be more than happy if you lead the event to get the videos done in your place from the community members. @Srikanth, the final video will be in Commons and obviously with .ogv format. But the raw footage will be in .mov/avi/mpeg, they are the formats used before editing. After editing we will convert the final video into .ogv. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Subha, What about the Indian English Community? Noopur, Thanks for the ideas, but one small suggestion. Format- Keep it OGV. We can't be promoting an open project with a closed format video no? Konark, Good to see young brains like you volunteering on this. Ashwin, Can I have a link please? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: Nitika MikeLynch some others have just begin working in this field and a prototype video on how to create an account has been made. Imho these efforts should be combined. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey, +1 to this, I can help(composing, editing). Konarak. Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:10:06 +0530 From: noopur.ra...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Hey Subhashish, I think it's a great idea. In case people are thinking of recording such a video, I would love to help you edit and here are some suggestions for community members: 1) Put it on your next meetup agenda. Do it in the meetup itself 2) It could be one single person saying I edit wikipedia or a group. More than 1 is welcome 3) For editing purposes, it is better if you record video in room with LESS noise and MORE light 4) Try and keep video in MPEG, Avi or MP4, so that while editing we don't have to convert and lose quality. 5) You can use any normal digital camera, even your (iphone) camera :P Just try and minimize shaking. Cheers Noopur 2012/2/7 Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org: Deal all, As a part of helping the community to reach out to more people apart from the presentations, handouts, FAQs and mailing list support we also have need for more visuals. Audio/Video clips containing Indian Wikipedians sharing their message I EDIT WIKIPEDIA or I EDIT AN INDIAN LANGUAGE WIKIPEDIA or WIKIPEDIA IS HELPING ME DOCUMENTING MY HERITAGE will create impact among people and motivate them to contribute to Wikipedia. Many people use Wikipedia in a daily basis without being aware of they can also [Edit] it, social media, Youtube, mails containing link to such a video can be used to reach this message to them. Moreover, such videos which are already
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Letters of authority or press cards (was: Backup for Wikipedians)
Agree with Srikanth, as I can't join the chapter because I'm underage. Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 02:49:39 -0800 From: parakara.gh...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Letters of authority or press cards (was: Backup for Wikipedians) I agree with fae about the entire issue. Last week, there was an Academy in Coimbatore at the Amrita University where I was denied entry as my ID card didn't state Wikipedia. For Commons, this may not be of much use. Most Police men chase us away for pulling out a Camera in Public. However, I do not see this reaching non members of the chapter, especially the under age ones like Vibhijain, or others. Re, On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote: Further to Theo's suggestion (inline below) On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Great suggestion Fae. As Srikanth correctly pointed it out, such an ID would be under the content scope, which neither the chapter or the WMF India operations have any jurisdiction over. I remember a couple of years ago, Wikinews tried this for their active editors, offering to print them 'official reporter' IDs. It was an idea at the time, and I'm not sure if they actually implemented it or not. For photographers, this would be the commons community. This shouldn't be too hard, I suggest someone mentioning the political situation and suggesting this for commons photographers in the VP. The great thing is since, it would be the community who would award it, there is little or no direct liability to an official body. There should however be a contribution record or an endorsement from someone to print these out. One thing the chapter can do however, is offer a special member/photographers ID to the existing members. This could be at a surcharge so they don't undertake any expense- they can print out plastic IDs with photos, and membership detail of the existing members. This ID might be able to suffice for the purpose. I don't think that the card should necessarily be printed at a centralised location. In fact, I don't even think this is desirable (from security and logistics viewpoints). It should be fairly simple to 'approve' a request for accreditation (framework discussed already), then lead to a web-based one-time card generator that the user can print and laminate herself. In case of problems printing, the user should have a fallback option to report the failure, in order to enable a second attempt for the card to be printed. Regards Theo On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 8:15 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: The chapter can officially decide it only after a discussion within Board , SIG leadership and the members. But on a personal level, I agree with Anirudh's view on this. Since it brings strong accountability for the chapter on the use of the ID by the recipients , this has to be done with caution and utmost care. May be we can set up an empowered committee to review such requests and grant them. ( just a suggestion) Nevertheless, IMHO, such id cards should be issued to only trusted Wikimedians with a substantial amount of history with our projects and mission. Regards Tinu Cherian On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: We do need a Chapter EC Board member to respond to this. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: The question whether the Chapter will help someone if they get into some sort of trouble with the authorities is an important one and should be addressed. Once a letter of authority is issued to a volunteer, the chapter's reputation and credibility is on the line. Therefore, the chapter must endeavor to only approve those members who have a substantial amount of history with our projects and their mission. In such a scenario, I would expect the chapter to extend help to those it endorses. anirudh (personal opinion) On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 18:24, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: Will the chapter or India Programs provide assistance? IIRC both of them lie outside the content boundary and wouldn't be helping. I dont recollect reading anything like protecting interests of wikipedians on the chapter's mission / vision. Form a political party (since asking the current ones might not help!) and fight for it, else sit at home and edit non controversial stuff like Brinjal :P Supporting Wikimedia volunteers in their mission to expand the scope and variety of content on Wikimedia projects is an important part of our stated goals. I think this is a
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
Hey,+1 to this, I can help(composing, editing).Konarak. Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:10:06 +0530 From: noopur.ra...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Hey Subhashish, I think it's a great idea. In case people are thinking of recording such a video, I would love to help you edit and here are some suggestions for community members: 1) Put it on your next meetup agenda. Do it in the meetup itself 2) It could be one single person saying I edit wikipedia or a group. More than 1 is welcome 3) For editing purposes, it is better if you record video in room with LESS noise and MORE light 4) Try and keep video in MPEG, Avi or MP4, so that while editing we don't have to convert and lose quality. 5) You can use any normal digital camera, even your (iphone) camera :P Just try and minimize shaking. Cheers Noopur 2012/2/7 Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org: Deal all, As a part of helping the community to reach out to more people apart from the presentations, handouts, FAQs and mailing list support we also have need for more visuals. Audio/Video clips containing Indian Wikipedians sharing their message I EDIT WIKIPEDIA or I EDIT AN INDIAN LANGUAGE WIKIPEDIA or WIKIPEDIA IS HELPING ME DOCUMENTING MY HERITAGE will create impact among people and motivate them to contribute to Wikipedia. Many people use Wikipedia in a daily basis without being aware of they can also [Edit] it, social media, Youtube, mails containing link to such a video can be used to reach this message to them. Moreover, such videos which are already there in Outreach (outreach.wikimedia.org) Bookshelf might make some people feel it's project being managed by some foreigners. Seeing some real Indians editing Wikipedia with the Main page of an Indian language background will definitely make this message clearer. If there is a fairly good no of community members located in anywhere in India (e.g Pune, Bangalore and Mumbai community) we can ask the community members say it altogether aloud apart from one/two community members speaking in their own language. I will be posting the details in the community village pumps, you are allowed to send as many people's footage as you can provided the video and audio quality are reasonable good. We will be collecting footage from all the communities and do a post production. Subha Community Program Support, India Program Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-in-en mailing list wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-en -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
