Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN Executive committee elections 2014 announcement
Was not it only an announcement? On 14 October 2014 22:18, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: On 14/10/2014, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All , I stopped responding to praveen long back in all social media platforms and blocked him from my contact lists. I do support pseudo anonymity as Did I complain you? ;-) political right , But I dont want to entertain his baseless allegations and abuses If you believe my mail is baseless, you could have ask me reference other than using this escapism again and again. :-) Since this is a response to Election committee mail , I am responding inline On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:29 PM, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anivar, I wish to know about the procedure of the selection of Election committee and Returning officer. Please ask Chapter .Announcement mail is linked at http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections2014 page I know the rule. I am asking that how you are maintain to get titles like this without any real contributions anywhere. Even more badly, in this same list I saw you were discouraging users just because they were not using your favorite operating system. truthful atleast to himselft. Last time I saw you in Malayalam Wikipedia to teach us that Wikimedians must 'suffer' ULS in developer insisted form because what Wikipedia is technocracy not democracy. I think praveen is referring my efforts to interface between the FOSS developer way of decision making and Wikimedia community way. This post summarizes it http://www.quora.com/Why-was-ULS-forced-on-reluctant-language-wikipedias-without-any-community-consensus Happy to see that you have such a flexible vision :-) Hating consensus while being a returning official of a poll is such a great ability! various community issues around technology decision making such as ULS is also part of discussions in India Community Consultation as well . offtopic: What? Where? But personalizing issues and building and spreading personal animosity around technology opinions is a nonconstructive attitude of this identity for long . So I am not engaging with him further on this off-topic conversation . I want this community and its process clear and correct. I cannot agree someone with bad reputation represent community and its decisions. Whenever I am asking somethin to you, I hope you would reply a proper answer so that users can believe you. Unfortunately never happened. I hope moderators will take a note on this Please stop such threats, If you can answer my questins (including the sexual offense case, which you omitted again), problem solved. ~ regards Anivar Aravind Praveen P ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN Executive committee elections 2014 announcement
On 14/10/2014, Tito Dutta trulyt...@gmail.com wrote: Was not it only an announcement? I am really sorry, but I really had to disrupt such an announcement because Sri Anivar uses every such announcement as an opportunity to bypass any allegations against him, and also most of the times he gets titles like returning officer without any real activity or contributions. And I know because of my past experience that probably he will do it again and agian, escaping any answering anywhere. On 14 October 2014 22:18, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: On 14/10/2014, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All , I stopped responding to praveen long back in all social media platforms and blocked him from my contact lists. I do support pseudo anonymity as Did I complain you? ;-) political right , But I dont want to entertain his baseless allegations and abuses If you believe my mail is baseless, you could have ask me reference other than using this escapism again and again. :-) Since this is a response to Election committee mail , I am responding inline On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:29 PM, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anivar, I wish to know about the procedure of the selection of Election committee and Returning officer. Please ask Chapter .Announcement mail is linked at http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections2014 page I know the rule. I am asking that how you are maintain to get titles like this without any real contributions anywhere. Even more badly, in this same list I saw you were discouraging users just because they were not using your favorite operating system. truthful atleast to himselft. Last time I saw you in Malayalam Wikipedia to teach us that Wikimedians must 'suffer' ULS in developer insisted form because what Wikipedia is technocracy not democracy. I think praveen is referring my efforts to interface between the FOSS developer way of decision making and Wikimedia community way. This post summarizes it http://www.quora.com/Why-was-ULS-forced-on-reluctant-language-wikipedias-without-any-community-consensus Happy to see that you have such a flexible vision :-) Hating consensus while being a returning official of a poll is such a great ability! various community issues around technology decision making such as ULS is also part of discussions in India Community Consultation as well . offtopic: What? Where? But personalizing issues and building and spreading personal animosity around technology opinions is a nonconstructive attitude of this identity for long . So I am not engaging with him further on this off-topic conversation . I want this community and its process clear and correct. I cannot agree someone with bad reputation represent community and its decisions. Whenever I am asking somethin to you, I hope you would reply a proper answer so that users can believe you. Unfortunately never happened. I hope moderators will take a note on this Please stop such threats, If you can answer my questins (including the sexual offense case, which you omitted again), problem solved. ~ regards Anivar Aravind Praveen P ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN Executive committee elections 2014 announcement
Dear Praveenp, With all due respects to you as one of the most contributing and persistent Wikipedian (I must say probably the staunchest of the backbones of Malayalam Wikipedia), I must now respond here as a member of the WMIN Executive Committee, a colleague at ml.wikipedia as well as a good friend of both of you.. Despite whatever personal issues between you and Anivar, I can vouch that Anivar too have been contributing to the Wikimedia causes in his own ways for some time now. You may not see it through the number of edits or such statistics, but his timely involvement in many events and projects have also helped Malayalam Wikisource to stand where it is now. Apart from that, he has been taking an active and serious interest in the Chapter's mission. Anivar, Pavithra and DB Srinivasa Rao were selected as the Election Committee (EleCom) via a very proper protocol by the Executive Committee. *It was the EC who solicited their help and willingness to be members of the Election Committee at a time when few were even willing to be members of the chapter.* Their selection as Election Committee was done even much before the new (restructured) EC came into form. The then EC had unanimously passed the resolution to appoint the EleCom without any conflicts among themselves. As far as the Wikimedia India Chapter is concerned, our interest in people's individual issues and relations are clearly limited to the Chapter's affairs. As I see it, being a member of the EleCom has nothing much to do with how one may be active or inactive in a rather unrelated domain, as long as one delivers the performance assumed and expected of his capacity in the right degree. I sincerely believe that the history of piques between you and Anivar has nothing to do with the conducting of WMIN elections in a free and fair manner. The Chapter would rather concentrate on much more pressing tasks for which our resources are still running bit of a short as of now. It is embarrassing to have to respond to such messages (that should be of interest in scope, to only the Chapter circles), at this honorable list, being primarily an open mail list for Indian Wikimedia projects. In the first place, that the announcement is also copied on to this list was purely with an intention to make as many Chapter members as possible.to be aware of the upcoming elections. Beyond that, anyone is welcome to ponder upon further affairs at the chapter's wiki itself, with a record and history. I also take this opportunity to urge Praveen and others to take a more long-standing interest in the chapter, be an active member there and get more involved from within, so that we can have even better qualified people to select from. It really makes a difference when you are inside the system. May I take that this discussion is now concluded with this message. :-) With love to all and malice towards none, Viswam On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 12:08 AM, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: On 14/10/2014, Tito Dutta trulyt...@gmail.com wrote: Was not it only an announcement? I am really sorry, but I really had to disrupt such an announcement because Sri Anivar uses every such announcement as an opportunity to bypass any allegations against him, and also most of the times he gets titles like returning officer without any real activity or contributions. And I know because of my past experience that probably he will do it again and agian, escaping any answering anywhere. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN Executive committee elections 2014 announcement
Dear fellow Wikimedians and Chapter Members, This is a bad situation. Anivar Aravind is not ready to answer any questions or concern about him. Everytime somebody ask him some explanations, he either attack user(s) who try to get some clarifications claiming that they have some agendas or ducking back and hiding for sometime. Personally I even don't and and I am not interested know him outside these mailing list. As you can see, always he select words to feel like there is a long time 'real life rivalry' as an escape tactics. I only want to know truth and reasons. But various accusations against him and his attitude to community seriously trouble me also. Generally he came to ml.wp village pump to teach us pretending somekind of 'techno-upper-cast' that we were wrong (eg: Unicode normalization decision and ULS deployment) but fortunately there is always enough people with better knowledge. I believe it is better to ban people like him from representing Wikimedia India and Indian Wikimedians community at least untill there is some answers. Regards, Praveen P ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN Executive committee elections 2014 announcement
Hi Anivar, I wish to know about the procedure of the selection of Election committee and Returning officer. I know you've membership in all the available mailing lists, you used to keep Activist phrase in all your email signatures, and I know that you are a great propaganda pusher (Mostly your personal propagandas :-)). But I wish to know your actual contributions to these projects or community. I believe that a person who acting as a returning officer must be truthful atleast to himselft. Last time I saw you in Malayalam Wikipedia to teach us that Wikimedians must 'suffer' ULS in developer insisted form because what Wikipedia is technocracy not democracy. Here you are acting as a returning officer. That bit is too hard for me to understand. I know that there are manyy allegations against you including recent one from a female fellow feminism activist. Personally I didn't see any explanation from you anywhere even-though there is a vast discussion in facebook and other social medias about this issue. I don't knnow that whether you sexually offended anybody anywhere. But I believe that you cannot pop up somewhere else without explaining yourself anywhere after such a big accusation. OR may be I am missing explanation from your side. I know nothiing about others though. Praveen P On 13/10/2014, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: sorry for typo in subject line On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: 2004? Surely its done by now? Oh wait, we didn't have a Chapter then! ;) On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 11:31 PM, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: FYI -- Forwarded message -- From: Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 6:37 PM Subject: WMIN 2004 Elections Announcement To: Wikimedia Members List wmin-memb...@googlegroups.com Dear Members, *Subject: Election Notice for Wikimedia Chapter Executive Committee Elections-2014* The Election Committee appointed by Wikimedia Chapter Executive Committee(EC) for notifying and conducting the Election to Wikimedia Chapter EC election, hereby announces the election to the Wikimedia Chapter EC for the two year term. A detailed ‘Rules Regulations for the Election’ is available on wiki ( http://wiki.wikimedia.in/File:WMINElectionAndAppointmentRules.pdf) which includes the Nomination Form for Candidature (at Page 7). As of now approved Members who are on the membership roll as on 23 August 2014 are eligible to participate in the Election and contest the Election (as per by-laws,based on the date of election and AGM scheduled for 23 Nov 2014). An electoral roll will be made available by the EC at least three weeks before the AGM as per the MOA. This will includes updates if any to the members list which will be used for finalizing the slate of candidates as well as for mailing ballots. Please note the following details: 1. Date of election: 23 Nov 2014. 2. Timing for voting in person: As per AGM Agenda which will be communicated by Chapter later. 3. Place of election and for sending postal communication: Wikimedia Chapter, No.194, 2nd 'C' Cross, Dommaluru 2nd stage, Bangalore 560071. India. 4. Last date and time of receiving nominations: 24 Oct 2014, 11:59PM IST WMIN Wiki http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections2014 ( http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections2014) will be used as the electronic medium for submitting and processing nominations. Each nomination is to be placed on a sub page and linked from the Elections page. Members proposing and seconding the candidature as well as the candidate have to sign using their user-ids on wiki. They also need to identify their membership number on their User pages for validation. Nomination pages will be locked to prevent editing on the day following the due date. 5. Scrutiny and Publishing Draft slate of candidates: 25 Oct 2014 5. Last date for withdrawal of nominations: 29 Oct 2014 11:59PM 6. Publishing final slate of candidates: 01-Nov-2014 The Executive Committee and the Election Committee will host an IRC on 20 Oct 2014 ,Monday between 9PM and 10.30PM on IRC channel #wikimedia-in. All potential candidates and WMIN members are requested to make use of this for any clarifications on rules and procedures with Election Committee and Executive Committee. There will facilitate a second IRC meeting on 05 Nov 2014 between Candidates and the Voters . Voters can make use of this opportunity to interact with each candidate in WMIN election. The Election Committee comprises of the following members: - Anivar Aravind : Returning officer - Pavithra H : Polling Officer - Srinivas Rao DB : Polling Officer You can contact us via Talk:Elections2014 http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Talk:Elections2014 for any clarifications or discussions. Thanks in advance for your cooperation to conduct the election in free and fair manner. *More
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN Executive committee elections 2014 announcement
Dear All , I stopped responding to praveen long back in all social media platforms and blocked him from my contact lists . I do support pseudo anonymity as political right , But I dont want to entertain his baseless allegations and abuses Since this is a response to Election committee mail , I am responding inline On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:29 PM, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anivar, I wish to know about the procedure of the selection of Election committee and Returning officer. Please ask Chapter .Announcement mail is linked at http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections2014 page truthful atleast to himselft. Last time I saw you in Malayalam Wikipedia to teach us that Wikimedians must 'suffer' ULS in developer insisted form because what Wikipedia is technocracy not democracy. I think praveen is referring my efforts to interface between the FOSS developer way of decision making and Wikimedia community way. This post summarizes it http://www.quora.com/Why-was-ULS-forced-on-reluctant-language-wikipedias-without-any-community-consensus various community issues around technology decision making such as ULS is also part of discussions in India Community Consultation as well . But personalizing issues and building and spreading personal animosity around technology opinions is a nonconstructive attitude of this identity for long . So I am not engaging with him further on this off-topic conversation . I hope moderators will take a note on this ~ regards Anivar Aravind ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN Executive committee elections 2014 announcement
On 14/10/2014, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All , I stopped responding to praveen long back in all social media platforms and blocked him from my contact lists. I do support pseudo anonymity as Did I complain you? ;-) political right , But I dont want to entertain his baseless allegations and abuses If you believe my mail is baseless, you could have ask me reference other than using this escapism again and again. :-) Since this is a response to Election committee mail , I am responding inline On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:29 PM, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anivar, I wish to know about the procedure of the selection of Election committee and Returning officer. Please ask Chapter .Announcement mail is linked at http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections2014 page I know the rule. I am asking that how you are maintain to get titles like this without any real contributions anywhere. Even more badly, in this same list I saw you were discouraging users just because they were not using your favorite operating system. truthful atleast to himselft. Last time I saw you in Malayalam Wikipedia to teach us that Wikimedians must 'suffer' ULS in developer insisted form because what Wikipedia is technocracy not democracy. I think praveen is referring my efforts to interface between the FOSS developer way of decision making and Wikimedia community way. This post summarizes it http://www.quora.com/Why-was-ULS-forced-on-reluctant-language-wikipedias-without-any-community-consensus Happy to see that you have such a flexible vision :-) Hating consensus while being a returning official of a poll is such a great ability! various community issues around technology decision making such as ULS is also part of discussions in India Community Consultation as well . offtopic: What? Where? But personalizing issues and building and spreading personal animosity around technology opinions is a nonconstructive attitude of this identity for long . So I am not engaging with him further on this off-topic conversation . I want this community and its process clear and correct. I cannot agree someone with bad reputation represent community and its decisions. Whenever I am asking somethin to you, I hope you would reply a proper answer so that users can believe you. Unfortunately never happened. I hope moderators will take a note on this Please stop such threats, If you can answer my questins (including the sexual offense case, which you omitted again), problem solved. ~ regards Anivar Aravind Praveen P ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN Executive committee elections 2014 announcement
sorry for typo in subject line On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: 2004? Surely its done by now? Oh wait, we didn't have a Chapter then! ;) On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 11:31 PM, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: FYI -- Forwarded message -- From: Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 6:37 PM Subject: WMIN 2004 Elections Announcement To: Wikimedia Members List wmin-memb...@googlegroups.com Dear Members, *Subject: Election Notice for Wikimedia Chapter Executive Committee Elections-2014* The Election Committee appointed by Wikimedia Chapter Executive Committee(EC) for notifying and conducting the Election to Wikimedia Chapter EC election, hereby announces the election to the Wikimedia Chapter EC for the two year term. A detailed ‘Rules Regulations for the Election’ is available on wiki ( http://wiki.wikimedia.in/File:WMINElectionAndAppointmentRules.pdf) which includes the Nomination Form for Candidature (at Page 7). As of now approved Members who are on the membership roll as on 23 August 2014 are eligible to participate in the Election and contest the Election (as per by-laws,based on the date of election and AGM scheduled for 23 Nov 2014). An electoral roll will be made available by the EC at least three weeks before the AGM as per the MOA. This will includes updates if any to the members list which will be used for finalizing the slate of candidates as well as for mailing ballots. Please note the following details: 1. Date of election: 23 Nov 2014. 2. Timing for voting in person: As per AGM Agenda which will be communicated by Chapter later. 3. Place of election and for sending postal communication: Wikimedia Chapter, No.194, 2nd 'C' Cross, Dommaluru 2nd stage, Bangalore 560071. India. 4. Last date and time of receiving nominations: 24 Oct 2014, 11:59PM IST WMIN Wiki http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections2014 ( http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections2014) will be used as the electronic medium for submitting and processing nominations. Each nomination is to be placed on a sub page and linked from the Elections page. Members proposing and seconding the candidature as well as the candidate have to sign using their user-ids on wiki. They also need to identify their membership number on their User pages for validation. Nomination pages will be locked to prevent editing on the day following the due date. 5. Scrutiny and Publishing Draft slate of candidates: 25 Oct 2014 5. Last date for withdrawal of nominations: 29 Oct 2014 11:59PM 6. Publishing final slate of candidates: 01-Nov-2014 The Executive Committee and the Election Committee will host an IRC on 20 Oct 2014 ,Monday between 9PM and 10.30PM on IRC channel #wikimedia-in. All potential candidates and WMIN members are requested to make use of this for any clarifications on rules and procedures with Election Committee and Executive Committee. There will facilitate a second IRC meeting on 05 Nov 2014 between Candidates and the Voters . Voters can make use of this opportunity to interact with each candidate in WMIN election. The Election Committee comprises of the following members: - Anivar Aravind : Returning officer - Pavithra H : Polling Officer - Srinivas Rao DB : Polling Officer You can contact us via Talk:Elections2014 http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Talk:Elections2014 for any clarifications or discussions. Thanks in advance for your cooperation to conduct the election in free and fair manner. *More Information* - WMIN Election 2014 Home page http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections2014 - Election Notice http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections2014/Announcement - Nomination Procedure http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections2014/Nominations - Membership list published by chapter http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Membership_List_as_on_2014_September_30 ~ regards Elecom Members Pavithra H Srinivas Rao DB Anivar Aravind ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
