Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup on 8th September

2012-08-27 Thread Branton Obwari 
its in the  interest of wmke  for the board to bond and work together in
harmony, we condemn the name calling bit , For the deputy chair to talk in
the manner that he did points out to the frustration and lack of
communication @ the board level ,for the audit committee to opt out like it
did points out to the same, ,The chair rather that retorting should reach
out to his colleagues and set out the communication channels to avert
such,Now thats leadership.
i am of the opinion that the board meets b4 8th and do the in house
agree on issues we raised then collectively respond to chapter members on
8th ,thats just but a suggestion ,
   Guys lets avoid the sideshows coz @ the end the day ,this issues must be
addressed .

Bruce.
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup on 8th September

2012-08-27 Thread Kosgei Isaac 
Oscar,
I feel its not right to use abusive language be it in a private or public
mailing list.
No matter how angry we may be its always good to respect one another.
That is my opinion
On Aug 28, 2012 9:03 AM, "Kosgei Isaac"  wrote:

> Hi David,
> That is a good way. If that is the case (Board meeting before 8th)
> Then I will attend.
> Just so you know, it was not Oscar who disrupted the last meetup and I do
> not question his concerns because I beleive they are genuine.
> Secondly, if Oscar is aware that there is going to be a board meeting,
> then I feel in my opinion that it was unwise for him to have raised that
> question  here and he already knows.
> That said, I know we have issues but let us handle this polepole.
> On Aug 28, 2012 8:52 AM, "David Mugo"  wrote:
>
>> Isaac,
>>
>> If it were you asking that question, I would have no issue. Oscar is part
>> of the board and there is a mailing list for the board. And yes, that was
>> the plan, just not in the way Oscar wants to bring it. Just so you know, 2
>> of the board members might not be present for the meetup but the plan is to
>> have a board meeting before then so the board can report on that.
>>
>> David.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Kosgei Isaac wrote:
>>
>>> David,
>>> Oscar is right, unless you had agreed to have a board meeting before 8th
>>> and he is not informed otherwise what he is asking is a genuine question
>>> and I beleive like any other person he has a right to ask.
>>> Lets not run away from the real issue
>>> On Aug 28, 2012 8:03 AM, "Limoke Oscar"  wrote:
>>>
 David,

 Just that? From my understanding, we as a board are indeed supposed to
 meet to discuss the financial issues and  before we can  get back to the
 members with a clear direction?

 On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 7:44 AM, David Mugo wrote:

> Isaac,
>
> There is no finance issues to be sorted, we are going to form an audit
> committee on that day.
>
> David
> On Aug 28, 2012 5:04 AM, "Kosgei Isaac"  wrote:
>
>> Hi Ann,
>> I suggest the board meet and sort the finance issue.
>> The last meetup was too chaotic and I am afraid I am no longer going
>> to attend any meetup unless all the cornerns we raised regarding finances
>> are addressed by the board.
>>
>> Best
>> Isaac
>> On Aug 27, 2012 7:43 PM, "Ann Njeri" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all?
>>> We shall be having a meetup on 8th September at Ihub ( to be
>>> confirmed) at 10pm. Among the agendas to be discussed will be the 
>>> finances
>>> and the audit committee. Feel free to add to the agendas on the ether 
>>> pad
>>> provided below. Please confirm your attendance by adding yourself to the
>>> list of members attending,
>>>
>>> http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wkmemeetingon8thseptember
>>>
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Ann
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup on 8th September

2012-08-27 Thread David Mugo 
Oscar,

It is why I insist you need to handle this as a leader in the team. I have
to contact individuals because the board is only 5 members before setting a
date for the meetup. I am done arguing with you, simply learn to handle
things without being a Khalwale on these issues.

David.

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Kosgei Isaac wrote:

> Hi David,
> That is a good way. If that is the case (Board meeting before 8th)
> Then I will attend.
> Just so you know, it was not Oscar who disrupted the last meetup and I do
> not question his concerns because I beleive they are genuine.
> Secondly, if Oscar is aware that there is going to be a board meeting,
> then I feel in my opinion that it was unwise for him to have raised that
> question  here and he already knows.
> That said, I know we have issues but let us handle this polepole.
> On Aug 28, 2012 8:52 AM, "David Mugo"  wrote:
>
>> Isaac,
>>
>> If it were you asking that question, I would have no issue. Oscar is part
>> of the board and there is a mailing list for the board. And yes, that was
>> the plan, just not in the way Oscar wants to bring it. Just so you know, 2
>> of the board members might not be present for the meetup but the plan is to
>> have a board meeting before then so the board can report on that.
>>
>> David.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Kosgei Isaac wrote:
>>
>>> David,
>>> Oscar is right, unless you had agreed to have a board meeting before 8th
>>> and he is not informed otherwise what he is asking is a genuine question
>>> and I beleive like any other person he has a right to ask.
>>> Lets not run away from the real issue
>>> On Aug 28, 2012 8:03 AM, "Limoke Oscar"  wrote:
>>>
 David,

 Just that? From my understanding, we as a board are indeed supposed to
 meet to discuss the financial issues and  before we can  get back to the
 members with a clear direction?

 On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 7:44 AM, David Mugo wrote:

> Isaac,
>
> There is no finance issues to be sorted, we are going to form an audit
> committee on that day.
>
> David
> On Aug 28, 2012 5:04 AM, "Kosgei Isaac"  wrote:
>
>> Hi Ann,
>> I suggest the board meet and sort the finance issue.
>> The last meetup was too chaotic and I am afraid I am no longer going
>> to attend any meetup unless all the cornerns we raised regarding finances
>> are addressed by the board.
>>
>> Best
>> Isaac
>> On Aug 27, 2012 7:43 PM, "Ann Njeri" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all?
>>> We shall be having a meetup on 8th September at Ihub ( to be
>>> confirmed) at 10pm. Among the agendas to be discussed will be the 
>>> finances
>>> and the audit committee. Feel free to add to the agendas on the ether 
>>> pad
>>> provided below. Please confirm your attendance by adding yourself to the
>>> list of members attending,
>>>
>>> http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wkmemeetingon8thseptember
>>>
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Ann
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup on 8th September

2012-08-27 Thread Kosgei Isaac 
Hi David,
That is a good way. If that is the case (Board meeting before 8th)
Then I will attend.
Just so you know, it was not Oscar who disrupted the last meetup and I do
not question his concerns because I beleive they are genuine.
Secondly, if Oscar is aware that there is going to be a board meeting, then
I feel in my opinion that it was unwise for him to have raised that
question  here and he already knows.
That said, I know we have issues but let us handle this polepole.
On Aug 28, 2012 8:52 AM, "David Mugo"  wrote:

> Isaac,
>
> If it were you asking that question, I would have no issue. Oscar is part
> of the board and there is a mailing list for the board. And yes, that was
> the plan, just not in the way Oscar wants to bring it. Just so you know, 2
> of the board members might not be present for the meetup but the plan is to
> have a board meeting before then so the board can report on that.
>
> David.
>
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Kosgei Isaac wrote:
>
>> David,
>> Oscar is right, unless you had agreed to have a board meeting before 8th
>> and he is not informed otherwise what he is asking is a genuine question
>> and I beleive like any other person he has a right to ask.
>> Lets not run away from the real issue
>> On Aug 28, 2012 8:03 AM, "Limoke Oscar"  wrote:
>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> Just that? From my understanding, we as a board are indeed supposed to
>>> meet to discuss the financial issues and  before we can  get back to the
>>> members with a clear direction?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 7:44 AM, David Mugo  wrote:
>>>
 Isaac,

 There is no finance issues to be sorted, we are going to form an audit
 committee on that day.

 David
 On Aug 28, 2012 5:04 AM, "Kosgei Isaac"  wrote:

> Hi Ann,
> I suggest the board meet and sort the finance issue.
> The last meetup was too chaotic and I am afraid I am no longer going
> to attend any meetup unless all the cornerns we raised regarding finances
> are addressed by the board.
>
> Best
> Isaac
> On Aug 27, 2012 7:43 PM, "Ann Njeri" 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all?
>> We shall be having a meetup on 8th September at Ihub ( to be
>> confirmed) at 10pm. Among the agendas to be discussed will be the 
>> finances
>> and the audit committee. Feel free to add to the agendas on the ether pad
>> provided below. Please confirm your attendance by adding yourself to the
>> list of members attending,
>>
>> http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wkmemeetingon8thseptember
>>
>>
>> regards,
>>
>>
>> Ann
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup on 8th September

2012-08-27 Thread David Mugo 
Isaac,

If it were you asking that question, I would have no issue. Oscar is part
of the board and there is a mailing list for the board. And yes, that was
the plan, just not in the way Oscar wants to bring it. Just so you know, 2
of the board members might not be present for the meetup but the plan is to
have a board meeting before then so the board can report on that.

David.

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Kosgei Isaac  wrote:

> David,
> Oscar is right, unless you had agreed to have a board meeting before 8th
> and he is not informed otherwise what he is asking is a genuine question
> and I beleive like any other person he has a right to ask.
> Lets not run away from the real issue
> On Aug 28, 2012 8:03 AM, "Limoke Oscar"  wrote:
>
>> David,
>>
>> Just that? From my understanding, we as a board are indeed supposed to
>> meet to discuss the financial issues and  before we can  get back to the
>> members with a clear direction?
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 7:44 AM, David Mugo  wrote:
>>
>>> Isaac,
>>>
>>> There is no finance issues to be sorted, we are going to form an audit
>>> committee on that day.
>>>
>>> David
>>> On Aug 28, 2012 5:04 AM, "Kosgei Isaac"  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Ann,
 I suggest the board meet and sort the finance issue.
 The last meetup was too chaotic and I am afraid I am no longer going to
 attend any meetup unless all the cornerns we raised regarding finances are
 addressed by the board.

 Best
 Isaac
 On Aug 27, 2012 7:43 PM, "Ann Njeri"  wrote:

> Hi all?
> We shall be having a meetup on 8th September at Ihub ( to be
> confirmed) at 10pm. Among the agendas to be discussed will be the finances
> and the audit committee. Feel free to add to the agendas on the ether pad
> provided below. Please confirm your attendance by adding yourself to the
> list of members attending,
>
> http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wkmemeetingon8thseptember
>
>
> regards,
>
>
> Ann
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup on 8th September

2012-08-27 Thread Kosgei Isaac 
David,
Oscar is right, unless you had agreed to have a board meeting before 8th
and he is not informed otherwise what he is asking is a genuine question
and I beleive like any other person he has a right to ask.
Lets not run away from the real issue
On Aug 28, 2012 8:03 AM, "Limoke Oscar"  wrote:

> David,
>
> Just that? From my understanding, we as a board are indeed supposed to
> meet to discuss the financial issues and  before we can  get back to the
> members with a clear direction?
>
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 7:44 AM, David Mugo  wrote:
>
>> Isaac,
>>
>> There is no finance issues to be sorted, we are going to form an audit
>> committee on that day.
>>
>> David
>> On Aug 28, 2012 5:04 AM, "Kosgei Isaac"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ann,
>>> I suggest the board meet and sort the finance issue.
>>> The last meetup was too chaotic and I am afraid I am no longer going to
>>> attend any meetup unless all the cornerns we raised regarding finances are
>>> addressed by the board.
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Isaac
>>> On Aug 27, 2012 7:43 PM, "Ann Njeri"  wrote:
>>>
 Hi all?
 We shall be having a meetup on 8th September at Ihub ( to be confirmed)
 at 10pm. Among the agendas to be discussed will be the finances and the
 audit committee. Feel free to add to the agendas on the ether pad provided
 below. Please confirm your attendance by adding yourself to the list of
 members attending,

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup on 8th September

2012-08-27 Thread David Mugo 
You are part of the decision making Oscar, simply use the right channels to
engage.

David.

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Limoke Oscar  wrote:

> David,
>
> Above being a Board Member, I am a member of WMKE and like any other
> member, shouldn't I behave like a member? Anyway , carry on with the
> meeting plans, I dint know I was being  a pain in the as* with my concerns.
> I just believe that Wikimedia Kenya is an open movement and as such, all
> issues relating to it should be dealt in an open way.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:13 AM, David Mugo  wrote:
>
>> Oscar,
>>
>> As the vice chair of the board, is your work to question every little
>> thing people do? There is a proper way to handle issues. That does not mean
>> avoiding them but it also does not mean confrontation. You are part of the
>> board, meaning you are on the board's mailing list, why did you choose this
>> as the forum for your questions? Display leadership not the autocracy you
>> exhibited over the financial issues with Steve.
>>
>> David.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Limoke Oscar  wrote:
>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> Pardon me? Am I? (being a pain?)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:05 AM, David Mugo  wrote:
>>>
 Oscar,

 Is this the mailing list for the board? Or should the board meetup be
 announced on this list? I think you are trying to be a pain unnecessarily.

 David.


 On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Limoke Oscar wrote:

> David,
>
> Just that? From my understanding, we as a board are indeed supposed to
> meet to discuss the financial issues and  before we can  get back to the
> members with a clear direction?
>
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 7:44 AM, David Mugo wrote:
>
>> Isaac,
>>
>> There is no finance issues to be sorted, we are going to form an
>> audit committee on that day.
>>
>> David
>> On Aug 28, 2012 5:04 AM, "Kosgei Isaac" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ann,
>>> I suggest the board meet and sort the finance issue.
>>> The last meetup was too chaotic and I am afraid I am no longer going
>>> to attend any meetup unless all the cornerns we raised regarding 
>>> finances
>>> are addressed by the board.
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Isaac
>>> On Aug 27, 2012 7:43 PM, "Ann Njeri" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi all?
 We shall be having a meetup on 8th September at Ihub ( to be
 confirmed) at 10pm. Among the agendas to be discussed will be the 
 finances
 and the audit committee. Feel free to add to the agendas on the ether 
 pad
 provided below. Please confirm your attendance by adding yourself to 
 the
 list of members attending,

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup on 8th September

2012-08-27 Thread Limoke Oscar 
David,

Above being a Board Member, I am a member of WMKE and like any other
member, shouldn't I behave like a member? Anyway , carry on with the
meeting plans, I dint know I was being  a pain in the as* with my concerns.
I just believe that Wikimedia Kenya is an open movement and as such, all
issues relating to it should be dealt in an open way.

Regards,

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:13 AM, David Mugo  wrote:

> Oscar,
>
> As the vice chair of the board, is your work to question every little
> thing people do? There is a proper way to handle issues. That does not mean
> avoiding them but it also does not mean confrontation. You are part of the
> board, meaning you are on the board's mailing list, why did you choose this
> as the forum for your questions? Display leadership not the autocracy you
> exhibited over the financial issues with Steve.
>
> David.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Limoke Oscar  wrote:
>
>> David,
>>
>> Pardon me? Am I? (being a pain?)
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:05 AM, David Mugo  wrote:
>>
>>> Oscar,
>>>
>>> Is this the mailing list for the board? Or should the board meetup be
>>> announced on this list? I think you are trying to be a pain unnecessarily.
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Limoke Oscar wrote:
>>>
 David,

 Just that? From my understanding, we as a board are indeed supposed to
 meet to discuss the financial issues and  before we can  get back to the
 members with a clear direction?

 On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 7:44 AM, David Mugo wrote:

> Isaac,
>
> There is no finance issues to be sorted, we are going to form an audit
> committee on that day.
>
> David
> On Aug 28, 2012 5:04 AM, "Kosgei Isaac"  wrote:
>
>> Hi Ann,
>> I suggest the board meet and sort the finance issue.
>> The last meetup was too chaotic and I am afraid I am no longer going
>> to attend any meetup unless all the cornerns we raised regarding finances
>> are addressed by the board.
>>
>> Best
>> Isaac
>> On Aug 27, 2012 7:43 PM, "Ann Njeri" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all?
>>> We shall be having a meetup on 8th September at Ihub ( to be
>>> confirmed) at 10pm. Among the agendas to be discussed will be the 
>>> finances
>>> and the audit committee. Feel free to add to the agendas on the ether 
>>> pad
>>> provided below. Please confirm your attendance by adding yourself to the
>>> list of members attending,
>>>
>>> http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wkmemeetingon8thseptember
>>>
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Ann
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup on 8th September

2012-08-27 Thread David Mugo 
Oscar,

As the vice chair of the board, is your work to question every little thing
people do? There is a proper way to handle issues. That does not mean
avoiding them but it also does not mean confrontation. You are part of the
board, meaning you are on the board's mailing list, why did you choose this
as the forum for your questions? Display leadership not the autocracy you
exhibited over the financial issues with Steve.

David.

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Limoke Oscar  wrote:

> David,
>
> Pardon me? Am I? (being a pain?)
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:05 AM, David Mugo  wrote:
>
>> Oscar,
>>
>> Is this the mailing list for the board? Or should the board meetup be
>> announced on this list? I think you are trying to be a pain unnecessarily.
>>
>> David.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Limoke Oscar  wrote:
>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> Just that? From my understanding, we as a board are indeed supposed to
>>> meet to discuss the financial issues and  before we can  get back to the
>>> members with a clear direction?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 7:44 AM, David Mugo  wrote:
>>>
 Isaac,

 There is no finance issues to be sorted, we are going to form an audit
 committee on that day.

 David
 On Aug 28, 2012 5:04 AM, "Kosgei Isaac"  wrote:

> Hi Ann,
> I suggest the board meet and sort the finance issue.
> The last meetup was too chaotic and I am afraid I am no longer going
> to attend any meetup unless all the cornerns we raised regarding finances
> are addressed by the board.
>
> Best
> Isaac
> On Aug 27, 2012 7:43 PM, "Ann Njeri" 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all?
>> We shall be having a meetup on 8th September at Ihub ( to be
>> confirmed) at 10pm. Among the agendas to be discussed will be the 
>> finances
>> and the audit committee. Feel free to add to the agendas on the ether pad
>> provided below. Please confirm your attendance by adding yourself to the
>> list of members attending,
>>
>> http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wkmemeetingon8thseptember
>>
>>
>> regards,
>>
>>
>> Ann
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup on 8th September

2012-08-27 Thread Limoke Oscar 
David,

Pardon me? Am I? (being a pain?)

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:05 AM, David Mugo  wrote:

> Oscar,
>
> Is this the mailing list for the board? Or should the board meetup be
> announced on this list? I think you are trying to be a pain unnecessarily.
>
> David.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Limoke Oscar  wrote:
>
>> David,
>>
>> Just that? From my understanding, we as a board are indeed supposed to
>> meet to discuss the financial issues and  before we can  get back to the
>> members with a clear direction?
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 7:44 AM, David Mugo  wrote:
>>
>>> Isaac,
>>>
>>> There is no finance issues to be sorted, we are going to form an audit
>>> committee on that day.
>>>
>>> David
>>> On Aug 28, 2012 5:04 AM, "Kosgei Isaac"  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Ann,
 I suggest the board meet and sort the finance issue.
 The last meetup was too chaotic and I am afraid I am no longer going to
 attend any meetup unless all the cornerns we raised regarding finances are
 addressed by the board.

 Best
 Isaac
 On Aug 27, 2012 7:43 PM, "Ann Njeri"  wrote:

> Hi all?
> We shall be having a meetup on 8th September at Ihub ( to be
> confirmed) at 10pm. Among the agendas to be discussed will be the finances
> and the audit committee. Feel free to add to the agendas on the ether pad
> provided below. Please confirm your attendance by adding yourself to the
> list of members attending,
>
> http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wkmemeetingon8thseptember
>
>
> regards,
>
>
> Ann
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup on 8th September

2012-08-27 Thread David Mugo 
Oscar,

Is this the mailing list for the board? Or should the board meetup be
announced on this list? I think you are trying to be a pain unnecessarily.

David.

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Limoke Oscar  wrote:

> David,
>
> Just that? From my understanding, we as a board are indeed supposed to
> meet to discuss the financial issues and  before we can  get back to the
> members with a clear direction?
>
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 7:44 AM, David Mugo  wrote:
>
>> Isaac,
>>
>> There is no finance issues to be sorted, we are going to form an audit
>> committee on that day.
>>
>> David
>> On Aug 28, 2012 5:04 AM, "Kosgei Isaac"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ann,
>>> I suggest the board meet and sort the finance issue.
>>> The last meetup was too chaotic and I am afraid I am no longer going to
>>> attend any meetup unless all the cornerns we raised regarding finances are
>>> addressed by the board.
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Isaac
>>> On Aug 27, 2012 7:43 PM, "Ann Njeri"  wrote:
>>>
 Hi all?
 We shall be having a meetup on 8th September at Ihub ( to be confirmed)
 at 10pm. Among the agendas to be discussed will be the finances and the
 audit committee. Feel free to add to the agendas on the ether pad provided
 below. Please confirm your attendance by adding yourself to the list of
 members attending,

 http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wkmemeetingon8thseptember


 regards,


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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup on 8th September

2012-08-27 Thread Limoke Oscar 
David,

Just that? From my understanding, we as a board are indeed supposed to meet
to discuss the financial issues and  before we can  get back to the members
with a clear direction?

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 7:44 AM, David Mugo  wrote:

> Isaac,
>
> There is no finance issues to be sorted, we are going to form an audit
> committee on that day.
>
> David
> On Aug 28, 2012 5:04 AM, "Kosgei Isaac"  wrote:
>
>> Hi Ann,
>> I suggest the board meet and sort the finance issue.
>> The last meetup was too chaotic and I am afraid I am no longer going to
>> attend any meetup unless all the cornerns we raised regarding finances are
>> addressed by the board.
>>
>> Best
>> Isaac
>> On Aug 27, 2012 7:43 PM, "Ann Njeri"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all?
>>> We shall be having a meetup on 8th September at Ihub ( to be confirmed)
>>> at 10pm. Among the agendas to be discussed will be the finances and the
>>> audit committee. Feel free to add to the agendas on the ether pad provided
>>> below. Please confirm your attendance by adding yourself to the list of
>>> members attending,
>>>
>>> http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wkmemeetingon8thseptember
>>>
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Ann
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup on 8th September

2012-08-27 Thread David Mugo 
Isaac,

There is no finance issues to be sorted, we are going to form an audit
committee on that day.

David
On Aug 28, 2012 5:04 AM, "Kosgei Isaac"  wrote:

> Hi Ann,
> I suggest the board meet and sort the finance issue.
> The last meetup was too chaotic and I am afraid I am no longer going to
> attend any meetup unless all the cornerns we raised regarding finances are
> addressed by the board.
>
> Best
> Isaac
> On Aug 27, 2012 7:43 PM, "Ann Njeri"  wrote:
>
>> Hi all?
>> We shall be having a meetup on 8th September at Ihub ( to be confirmed)
>> at 10pm. Among the agendas to be discussed will be the finances and the
>> audit committee. Feel free to add to the agendas on the ether pad provided
>> below. Please confirm your attendance by adding yourself to the list of
>> members attending,
>>
>> http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wkmemeetingon8thseptember
>>
>>
>> regards,
>>
>>
>> Ann
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup on 8th September

2012-08-27 Thread Kosgei Isaac 
Hi Ann,
I suggest the board meet and sort the finance issue.
The last meetup was too chaotic and I am afraid I am no longer going to
attend any meetup unless all the cornerns we raised regarding finances are
addressed by the board.

Best
Isaac
On Aug 27, 2012 7:43 PM, "Ann Njeri"  wrote:

> Hi all?
> We shall be having a meetup on 8th September at Ihub ( to be confirmed) at
> 10pm. Among the agendas to be discussed will be the finances and the audit
> committee. Feel free to add to the agendas on the ether pad provided below.
> Please confirm your attendance by adding yourself to the list of members
> attending,
>
> http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wkmemeetingon8thseptember
>
>
> regards,
>
>
> Ann
>
>
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[Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup on 8th September

2012-08-27 Thread Ann Njeri 
Hi all?
We shall be having a meetup on 8th September at Ihub ( to be confirmed) at
10pm. Among the agendas to be discussed will be the finances and the audit
committee. Feel free to add to the agendas on the ether pad provided below.
Please confirm your attendance by adding yourself to the list of members
attending,

http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wkmemeetingon8thseptember


regards,


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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Finances

2012-08-27 Thread David Mugo 
Guys

A meetup is being coordinated by myself and Ann, the secretary.

David.

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Branton Obwari wrote:

> Oscar ,
> Thanks for addressing this matter that is threatening the future of
> WMKE , by your own admission things are not looking good, i even din't
> know Grace has left the group ,For our info Grace & Abbas were just
> NOT ordinary members but founder members who contributed immensely to
> its project & were in charge of various ongoing projects within WMKE
> ,we don't want to see an exodus of members ,do we ?
>  Its wrong  for  anyone to try imagine that this matter can be
> swept under the floor  ,When you guys assumed office we thought there
> will be a deliberate effort to speed up incorporation of WMKE ,
>   Questions ,Whats holding us/you from creating a joint account for
> WMKE as most of us are in support of the same ? ,What is the status of
> the incorporation ,We rooting for incorporation because other than
> defining roles ,We all know there are projects that involved WMKE
> relating with government & non governmental organizations which cannot
> be possible if we are not a legal group.
>  I don't know the procedures of calling for a meeting ,but i once
> again want to appeal to our chair to come up with a date ,soon is a
> proper word ,to address this issues ,we still believe in the board
> members ,but you should not continue behaving like its business as
> usual while people are opting out ,
> Bruce,
>  A volunteer WMKE.
>
>
> On 8/27/12, Limoke Oscar  wrote:
> > Bruce,
> >
> > Thank you for your kind request. Indeed it is unfortunate that Abbas had
> to
> > leave the Chapter and this is just sign of the kind of murky waters you
> > refer too. The Audit Committee does not exist yet after 2 of  its
> members,
> > Abbas and Grace (told) quit the Chapter. So we have to again call for
> > volunteers.
> >
> > It is rather unfortunate that we as WMKE members dont like to be
> Critiqued,
> > we prefer having issues sugar coated and personally I dont do that.The
> main
> > reason why we got ourselves in this state in the first place is the
> failure
> > of the Board( of which I am part of) and all WMKE members to do joint
> > accountability and raise questions and demand answers. That said, I
> > have deliberately avoided chiming in on this thread for the said reasons
> > and I do hope that the persons and issues that have led us to this state
> > have/or get resolved.
> >
> > David,
> > As the Board Chair, can you convene a meeting to the same?
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Branton Obwari
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Asaf , for bringing this up ,
> >> Was not privileged to attend the Saturday meeting but persuaded to
> >> believe it dint achieve much .There has been considerable noise on the
> >> matter of accountability of WMKE funds ,which is very healthy and can
> >> not be wished away .
> >>Permit me to use this forum to address the Board members whom
> >> members entrusted responsibility , there is work cut out for you ,We
> >> need you to steer us through this murky waters.
> >>  your priority should be;
> >>1.Set up a dedicated joint account for WMKE funds ASAP
> >>2.Finalize the incorporation thing ,its unfortunate that Abbas who
> >> was taking care of this & has since left ,who i must applaud for his
> >> immense contribution .
> >>  And finally someone please update me on the status of the audit
> >> committee ,is in place ?
> >>  if this is not done pretty soon we shall be asking ourselves ,...When
> >> did the rain start hitting us ?
> >>
> >>  my concerns ,with love!
> >>
> >> bruce.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/25/12, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
> >> > Dear WMKE colleagues,
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Asaf Bartov 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Indeed, David's suggestion is good.
> >> >>
> >> >> Also, just to address Isaac's comment: _certainly_ Steve and all
> other
> >> >> office holders are primarily answerable to the board, and to the
> >> members.
> >> >>  WMF is a side entity here, and the only reason I have requested and
> >> >> received the tracking sheet is that I was told the Saturday meeting
> >> >> "exploded" without actually finishing the review.
> >> >>
> >> >> I do hope WMKE can resolve this on its own, and am confident it can.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > It's been two weeks, and I have not heard anything further.  Has this
> >> been
> >> > resolved yet?  Is there progress with setting up a dedicated joint
> >> account,
> >> > for the interim until WMKE is fully incorporated?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> >Asaf
> >> > --
> >> > Asaf Bartov
> >> > Wikimedia Foundation 
> >> >
> >> > Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in
> >> > the
> >> > sum

Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Finances

2012-08-27 Thread Branton Obwari 
Oscar ,
Thanks for addressing this matter that is threatening the future of
WMKE , by your own admission things are not looking good, i even din't
know Grace has left the group ,For our info Grace & Abbas were just
NOT ordinary members but founder members who contributed immensely to
its project & were in charge of various ongoing projects within WMKE
,we don't want to see an exodus of members ,do we ?
 Its wrong  for  anyone to try imagine that this matter can be
swept under the floor  ,When you guys assumed office we thought there
will be a deliberate effort to speed up incorporation of WMKE ,
  Questions ,Whats holding us/you from creating a joint account for
WMKE as most of us are in support of the same ? ,What is the status of
the incorporation ,We rooting for incorporation because other than
defining roles ,We all know there are projects that involved WMKE
relating with government & non governmental organizations which cannot
be possible if we are not a legal group.
 I don't know the procedures of calling for a meeting ,but i once
again want to appeal to our chair to come up with a date ,soon is a
proper word ,to address this issues ,we still believe in the board
members ,but you should not continue behaving like its business as
usual while people are opting out ,
Bruce,
 A volunteer WMKE.


On 8/27/12, Limoke Oscar  wrote:
> Bruce,
>
> Thank you for your kind request. Indeed it is unfortunate that Abbas had to
> leave the Chapter and this is just sign of the kind of murky waters you
> refer too. The Audit Committee does not exist yet after 2 of  its members,
> Abbas and Grace (told) quit the Chapter. So we have to again call for
> volunteers.
>
> It is rather unfortunate that we as WMKE members dont like to be Critiqued,
> we prefer having issues sugar coated and personally I dont do that.The main
> reason why we got ourselves in this state in the first place is the failure
> of the Board( of which I am part of) and all WMKE members to do joint
> accountability and raise questions and demand answers. That said, I
> have deliberately avoided chiming in on this thread for the said reasons
> and I do hope that the persons and issues that have led us to this state
> have/or get resolved.
>
> David,
> As the Board Chair, can you convene a meeting to the same?
>
> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Branton Obwari
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Asaf , for bringing this up ,
>> Was not privileged to attend the Saturday meeting but persuaded to
>> believe it dint achieve much .There has been considerable noise on the
>> matter of accountability of WMKE funds ,which is very healthy and can
>> not be wished away .
>>Permit me to use this forum to address the Board members whom
>> members entrusted responsibility , there is work cut out for you ,We
>> need you to steer us through this murky waters.
>>  your priority should be;
>>1.Set up a dedicated joint account for WMKE funds ASAP
>>2.Finalize the incorporation thing ,its unfortunate that Abbas who
>> was taking care of this & has since left ,who i must applaud for his
>> immense contribution .
>>  And finally someone please update me on the status of the audit
>> committee ,is in place ?
>>  if this is not done pretty soon we shall be asking ourselves ,...When
>> did the rain start hitting us ?
>>
>>  my concerns ,with love!
>>
>> bruce.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/25/12, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
>> > Dear WMKE colleagues,
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Asaf Bartov 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Indeed, David's suggestion is good.
>> >>
>> >> Also, just to address Isaac's comment: _certainly_ Steve and all other
>> >> office holders are primarily answerable to the board, and to the
>> members.
>> >>  WMF is a side entity here, and the only reason I have requested and
>> >> received the tracking sheet is that I was told the Saturday meeting
>> >> "exploded" without actually finishing the review.
>> >>
>> >> I do hope WMKE can resolve this on its own, and am confident it can.
>> >>
>> >
>> > It's been two weeks, and I have not heard anything further.  Has this
>> been
>> > resolved yet?  Is there progress with setting up a dedicated joint
>> account,
>> > for the interim until WMKE is fully incorporated?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> >Asaf
>> > --
>> > Asaf Bartov
>> > Wikimedia Foundation 
>> >
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>> > the
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>> >
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