[WISPA] G4 TV's Call For Help
This is a great show but today Leo made an error and I think someone from WISPA should contact them and tell them about WISP's. There was a caller today from Canada who was moving to where there was no DSL or Cable, and asked about Satellite ISP. Leo talked about that and then mentioned new options WiMax and BPL. At no time did he mention WISP. I did email Amanda [his assistant]and the show about WISP and gave them the www.wispa.org address, but also thought one of our leaders could contact them and update them on what we are. Walter W. Stumpf Jr.Xanadu Group Inc.Cognigen Founders' Club member179 Statesville Quarry RoadLafayette NJ 07848-3128 USA973-702-3899fax 775-667-1995WISPA memberhttp://ld.net/?wstumpf -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Opinion
-85 dBm @ 11Mbps There's the downside :-( Russ Kreigh Network Engineer OnlyInternet.Net Broadband Wireless Supernova Technologies Office: (800) 363-0989 Direct: (260) 827-2486 Fax:(260) 824-9624 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oibw.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Sullivan Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:13 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Opinion Has anyone ever heard of this item? http://estore.itmm.ca/product_info.php?cPath=36products_id=154 It just seems WAY to good to be true. Jeff -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet based authentication
How did connecting a laptop circumvent how they access the Internet? Sounds to me like the government entity does not restrict access to the Internet, they restrict what a PC can get to on the PC. Seems like a bad approach. How about a good ole proxy server that requires authentication to get out to the Net? Or did I just plain miss something? Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:54:46 -0600 Subject: [WISPA] Ethernet based authentication Anyone out there have experience with PPPoE?. I have a client who is a local government entity. They have people who have abused their Internet connection in the past. They restrict who has Internet access and when it can be used. One of our techs unknowingly circumvented protocol by helping an employee learn how to connect his personal laptop to the hardwired Ethernet network. Now the government entity is highly peeved at me. They want a complete report on the incident and a plan for how I will prevent people from doing this in the future at all locations. I am thinking we can use PPPoE to force all users even on the hardwired network to authenticate in order to get on the Internet. What are your thoughts? What will this break on an internal network that may be doing other things? Could an internal Windows network still function normally while the computer is not authenticated for Internet access? I have never done PPPoE and need a little guidance from those of you who have. Many thanks, Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- End of Original Message --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet based authentication
Our local school uses something that does what you are asking for the kids. Check with your school. If that doesn't work I can get you the name and number for who to ask here. I'm pretty sure it's done via some kind of security server. Nothing so complicated as pppoe. BTW, I think that if the city doesn't want their own people on the network they should make sure you know that before you do any work for them. How are you possibly supposed to assume that an employee isn't allowed access And they ARE securing all of the drives and servers so that they aren't shared with everyone right? good luck! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 7:54 AM Subject: [WISPA] Ethernet based authentication Anyone out there have experience with PPPoE?. I have a client who is a local government entity. They have people who have abused their Internet connection in the past. They restrict who has Internet access and when it can be used. One of our techs unknowingly circumvented protocol by helping an employee learn how to connect his personal laptop to the hardwired Ethernet network. Now the government entity is highly peeved at me. They want a complete report on the incident and a plan for how I will prevent people from doing this in the future at all locations. I am thinking we can use PPPoE to force all users even on the hardwired network to authenticate in order to get on the Internet. What are your thoughts? What will this break on an internal network that may be doing other things? Could an internal Windows network still function normally while the computer is not authenticated for Internet access? I have never done PPPoE and need a little guidance from those of you who have. Many thanks, Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet based authentication
PPPoE will break things like printers. I would use a HotSpot style authentication and enable only the known machines. All other machines are sent to a login page or are simply firewalled and prevented from doing anything. HotSpot and PPPoE require that you have a radius server. Lonnie On 11/30/05, John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone out there have experience with PPPoE?. I have a client who is a local government entity. They have people who have abused their Internet connection in the past. They restrict who has Internet access and when it can be used. One of our techs unknowingly circumvented protocol by helping an employee learn how to connect his personal laptop to the hardwired Ethernet network. Now the government entity is highly peeved at me. They want a complete report on the incident and a plan for how I will prevent people from doing this in the future at all locations. I am thinking we can use PPPoE to force all users even on the hardwired network to authenticate in order to get on the Internet. What are your thoughts? What will this break on an internal network that may be doing other things? Could an internal Windows network still function normally while the computer is not authenticated for Internet access? I have never done PPPoE and need a little guidance from those of you who have. Many thanks, Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Lonnie Nunweiler Valemount Networks Corporation http://www.star-os.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] New Orleans Washington Post
The Washington Post just had an arcticle yesterday (or day before) announcing New Orlean's press release that they are going to own their own WiFi network, and that they plan to assume the donated equipment, and maintain the network themsleves, hiding behind the State of Emergency situation, to bypass Lousisanna law that prohibits this. Any of the WISPs in the area affected by this, or get to benefit from it? It didn't sound like anyone was given any credit other than the city mayor, tropos, maybe Intel. Supposedly an all Tropos MESH network city wide. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Jim Patient - hehehe That is the kind of foot wear they wear at certain bars in New Orleans and on Duval Street in Key West Florida!! Hey Jim - - you ever been to Key West? They tell me that there is an old saying about the bars on Duval Street the farther you stray (from the water) the more they are gay!! Looks like its catching on as these pics were taken in Ponchatoula, Louisiana. Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. www.inetsouth.com www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts) 318-728-8600 - Rayville 318-728-9600 318-376-2562 - cell Paul Hendry wrote: What's wrong with his foot wear? I have a pair my self ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: 26 November 2005 18:08 To: WISPA General List; Jim Patient; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Jim Patient - hehehe I just ran across this picture and thought I would share it. I apologize if it uses too much bandwidth - - send me a bill :-) It is worthy of the costs!! Its a picture of Jim Patient and I want you to notice his shoes!!! hmmm - - what kind of guy wears these and did he spend too much time in New Orleans? I have more incriminating photos as well!!! Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. www.inetsouth.com www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts) 318-728-8600 - Rayville 318-728-9600 318-376-2562 - cell -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet based authentication
I do not really understand what you are trying to accomplish but I do PPPoE for my network. I have used it in a few other cases. It is fairly easy to setup and should not limit anything on a windows network. Call me if I can be of help Jory Privett WCCS 940.683.5797 - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 9:54 AM Subject: [WISPA] Ethernet based authentication Anyone out there have experience with PPPoE?. I have a client who is a local government entity. They have people who have abused their Internet connection in the past. They restrict who has Internet access and when it can be used. One of our techs unknowingly circumvented protocol by helping an employee learn how to connect his personal laptop to the hardwired Ethernet network. Now the government entity is highly peeved at me. They want a complete report on the incident and a plan for how I will prevent people from doing this in the future at all locations. I am thinking we can use PPPoE to force all users even on the hardwired network to authenticate in order to get on the Internet. What are your thoughts? What will this break on an internal network that may be doing other things? Could an internal Windows network still function normally while the computer is not authenticated for Internet access? I have never done PPPoE and need a little guidance from those of you who have. Many thanks, Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet based authentication
John Scrivner wrote: Anyone out there have experience with PPPoE?. [ snip ] Based on the scenario you've described, PPPoE may not be the best solution. It'll probably break a lot of Windows-specific stuff (printer and file sharing leap to mind). Those could be worked around with a sufficiently complex firewall setup, but it might be more trouble than it's worth. A few other ideas pop into mind right off: * Many higher-end managed switches can be set up to only allow specified MAC addresses network access. You could do a network audit, get a list of all the allowed MACs in a location, and tell the switch to drop other traffic. Think wireless MAC authentication only with wires. :) * Put all the important stuff in a separate subnet and require VPN logins to access it. Configure the firewall to only allow access from IPs allocated to the VPN subnet. This won't keep someone from bringing in their own laptop and connecting to the VPN, but at least you'll know who did it. You could do this with StarOS, RouterOS, or even Windows/Active Directory if you're brave enough. * Fear and paranoia. Spread the word that the network is regularly monitored for unauthorized access, and that unauthorized MACs being seen from your port on the switch could be a write-up/lose-your-job offense. Use a managed switch that can record MAC-to-physical-port associations, and dump the logs somewhere. If you're really ambitious, actually review the logs on occasion and follow up on those threats :D David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] marketing
Hi Dylan, Marketing practices depend on your business model and your customers. If you can only reach a few entities, it's usually best to go directly to them with your pitch. If you want widespread publicity, more traditional channels are usually most efficient: Radio, TV, billboards, etc. If you're creative you can probably come up with ways to get into this type of media very inexpensively. Others have been successful with door-knob hangers. Obviously, your ILEC has the all the voice/data circuit information you could ever want, but I have a feeling that they will sell you their fiber routes before they sell you their customer list. You can get business records from infousa.com. Most libraries have a subscription. Check with them before using it for commercial purposes. One of the columns the data has is number of computers. It's probably not that accurate, but it may be better than nothing. The IRS does not collect property taxes, local municipalities do. Check your city's assessor's office. It looks like Spring Green farmed it out to: Krueger Appraisals, LLC/Greg Grandprey 608-837-6005. They may be able to give you the data on CD. Note that the building owner is not necessarily the business owner. - Tony On 11/30/2005 7:53 PM, Dylan Oliver created: Hi, Just wondering how you all approach marketing. At the moment I'm interested in obtaining a list of addresses of all businesses within say a 150-mile radius of Spring Green, WI. What I really want is a list of every entity leasing T1s or greater! Somehow I doubt that this information will be easy to come by. I'm willing to work at this, and am happy to rip apart / cobble together sundry databases. I heard that one could obtain property tax records from the IRS, but haven't found anything on this most promising claim. Suggestions? Thanks, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] canopy
Nop, just vertical Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.767.7466 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:22 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] canopy is canopy horizontal and vertical like trango? Software switchable? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] canopy
unless you mount it horizontally. :-) G.Villarini wrote: Nop, just vertical Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.767.7466 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:22 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] canopy is canopy horizontal and vertical like trango? Software switchable? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RE: SPAM and marketing
If you want to get your product /service out, first you find out where your desired clients are-mailing lists, newsgroups, etc, and then you go there. It is not that hard to get something good to the right people, but it is real easy to SPAM people that will never take a second look at your stuff. John Peter R. wrote: John Thomas wrote: But because you cold-called other WISPS, I won't do business with you. You only get one chance to make a first impression, and for most WISPs, that means one SPAM and you are out. Today, many, many companies use email marketing with opt-out instead of opt-in or shared email lists from partner companies. You don't like the unsolicited, but well targeted, email campaign. And apparently, you don't want to be cold-called. So that eliminates two of the most popular ways for sales teams to reach you. How would you suggest they market to you? More important: How does your sales team market? I started as a telecom agent in 2000. I now rep for 20+ carriers plus do business and marketing consulting. (Oh, and I help out with an ISP association, www.ii4a.org). Most telecom agents have left the ISPs alone for a few reasons. One is that is easier and more profitable to sell directly to the end-user. To YOUR customer. I'm curious how you would want to be contacted, because without email or cold-call, that leaves direct mail and advertising. (Advertising only works as a branding exercise). I'm trying to get vendors for an ISP Expo in 2 weeks. Many vendors do not feel it is even worth $199 to advertise. Some feel that ISPs are not a good market. (I'm talking about VOIP alarm companies, VOIP CPE vendors, hardware vendors). There is a disconnect between your vendors and ISPs. I'm just wondering how to bridge that gap. (Especially since I have to sell 20 more tickets to the Expo and get 4 more vendors :) I welcome all input. Thanks, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. http://4isps.com 813.496.2122 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet based authentication
John Scrivner wrote: Anyone out there have experience with PPPoE?. I have a client who is a local government entity. They have people who have abused their Internet connection in the past. They restrict who has Internet access and when it can be used. One of our techs unknowingly circumvented protocol by helping an employee learn how to connect his personal laptop to the hardwired Ethernet network. Now the government entity is highly peeved at me. They want a complete report on the incident and a plan for how I will prevent people from doing this in the future at all locations. I am thinking we can use PPPoE to force all users even on the hardwired network to authenticate in order to get on the Internet. What are your thoughts? What will this break on an internal network that may be doing other things? Could an internal Windows network still function normally while the computer is not authenticated for Internet access? I have never done PPPoE and need a little guidance from those of you who have. Many thanks, Scriv A little more info would be good. If they want to authenticate everyone, then 802.1x switches are available-if you don't authenticate, your port turns off. If they just want to limit Internet access, Websense or St. Bernard make products to do that. John -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
